Why Players and Creators QUIT GW2 | Guildwars 2 2024 REACTION

I thing this guy gives solid reasons as to why people ...especially content creators leave guild wars 2.
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[@MMO-SKY]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/fXLNpYCwqrmtqK8 here is the link to Silhouette Gaming's channel give him a sub and follow.

[@Earthz1412]

what i don't understand from GW2 content creator is, they don't show the best aspect from Guild Wars 2 that other mmo lack of this aspect which is OpenWorld... I adore how the way GW2 gather players and make it feels really like the actual MMO, like Meta Event. but i rarely seen content about Meta Event from any GW2 Content Creator.

[@MMO-SKY]

I agree the open world content from my experience is guild wars 2 greatest strength and that and wvw is what I would do if I was a veteran content creator in guild wars 2 . As to why the more established content creators don't do it I can't say ... perhaps it gets old for them after 5-6 years of doing them..not sure

[@punch1t]

@@MMO-SKY let me enlighten you as someone who started playing gw2 when it was still pay2play, so around 10+ years ago: While yes, Open World is one of the biggest strengths of the game, there were hundreds of people running basically in a loop to farm the same 10 events/bosses over and over because thats what brings the most money. Now? there is a lot to do. Raids, one time a week if you complete them. Daily Fractals, think about them as late game dungeons with changing modifiers. Some Events that have the chance for a high value loot drop. Strikes, which are like baby raids. And for most people, thats about it. Fractals take between 1.5-2 hours depending on the group, raiding is done either all in one go or over the course of 2-3 days, Strikes which you can do daily and take like an hour if the group is fine. Do a big Event for like 20 minutes and you are already playing for 4-5+ hours. This is the content for most people. Some do PVP, some do really challenging content, others fish or complete collections. There is close to no incentive to do Open World events anymore, other than you're completing a map and running through it and have some time. Guild Wars 2 was thriving in the WvW department, but it's basically on hold for a LOT of people and Content Creators because they announced a big rework of it. So everyone is waiting. Mukluk, one of the Content Creators mentioned in this Video, didnt quit Guild Wars 2. After streaming it for years every day, he was burned out and now streams it i think once a week, maybe twice. A lot more if there is new content coming because he still enjoys the game. If you play the same game for thousands of hours, you get burned out at some point. Does everyone quit? No of course not. But in every MMO there is only so much you can do at the End game before you get bored and are looking around for what you can do. If you have every Legendary Armor of each weight class, Light, Medium and Heavy, a Legendary of every Weapon, Accessory and the ability to choose which Runes and Sigils go into your gear, you dont have any problem with gearing any character. there is basically no goal for you to shoot toward until they release more content. The community is still thriving, with the move of going F2P they got a lot more people interested in this game. Content Creation can only make so many videos/stream that much content.

[@MMO-SKY]

​@@punch1tinteresting and what metric are you using to say that the game amd the community is thriving ?

[@MMO-SKY]

Also with theme park mmos yes you will always rin out of things to do ...sand box mmos you might play for 6 years every week and still not run out of things to do so it depends on which mmo you are talking about

[@SilhouetteGaming1]

Hey MMOSky, I made a total of 33 dollars off that video at this point. Definitely agreed with your points and thanks for the sub! I've personally considered covering some other games on my channel in terms of general reviews or "a better start" style guides. But I will always have GW2 and eventually GW3 content in regular rotation. I don't know much about the twitch side of things, so I appreciated your take on twitch viewership as a smaller creator. Looking forward to your overall review, and what other MMOs you decide to cover down the road. Cheers brother 🤙🤙

[@amirvahdani2059]

Am I the only one who prefers the pre-twitch gaming culture? If I have time to play a game, I'd play it, not watch someone else play it. So when ppl have twitch viewership as their main metric when talking about the game it bothers me.

[@SeeHang]

yeah i’m not a big fan of watching people play through things. i usually put it on in the background to hear the commentary. but even then i don’t listen to it every day or month. just once in a while if its developer news related. to be honest, the worst thing about twitch streamers is the ones who are truly anti social who have no drive to work with the community they’re trying to make money off of. if theres nothing but complaining, ain’t nothing gonna make them happy. most of these complaints are from lazy or anti social people who don’t want to understand the history of the game, the size of the developers or the fact that these players are constantly using wow in comparison to games like gw2… when gw2 carved its own path as a small studio. all i hear in these videos and comments is..”i want more free things, i want this game to be more like wow or ff14” its basically all these players who don’t know how to be social and don’t know how to play a game and earn to get what’s theirs. all of these reasons in the video speak clearly about how they left gw2 to go back to their games they left knowing they will have to grind again harder now that they left gw2 while gw2 players can come back and still be in the same position they were last to enjoy the game

[@MMO-SKY]

ill give a example of a game i have yet to play and will be covering soon ....black dessert online ...the community plays the game and watch their content creators ..while they play the game ....allowing there creators to go full time and this helps promote the game even more. ....that whole conversation was about us helping each other promote the game you love which is guild wars 2 ....since arena net does not promote the game....or we can just let things slide and guild wars 2 can remain not even top 7 in terms of mmo popularity if we are cool with that.

[@mismismism]

It's a lot of things. My friends fell off because SotO is bad, I'm not gonna mince words. It is insanely buggy, even now, the tiny section of the map they released is locked behind 2 existing metas that are bugged and the new meta is bugged and the fights inside suffer from a huge issue that I think is a big reason for why players don't do hard content in GW2, you cannot see WTF is going on. Overload of players effects on top of boss effects, especially in the new zone, all the enemies and effects are the same colors as the background, everything is gray and maroon, then they have NPCs saying mechanica out loud but you can't hear them over player and combat sounds or they put up long text instructions for mechanics whike you are in the fight and getting hit can one shot you so you can't read it and they don't ease you into the mechanics like FF14 does so the new meta fails because 75% of the players don't know what they're supposed to do. I don't get how they expect pkayers to want to do hard content when the game has always had a problem with making mechanics visible and clear, you can die over and over and have no idea what even killed you in so many fights. Flashbacks to 2 ice dragon metas where the boss attacks are transparent mist the same color as the floor with like 50 players tanking the framerate and covering everything in effects.

[@Syll7179]

Invisible mines in fractals…😅

[@hawlkman]

I bought the game on launch, enjoyed the leveling experince a lot but end game felt like the gear barely mattered for pve anyway and I was just trying to get dyes and transmogs. That is why I quit. I tried going back to it quite a bit later but leveling was not nearly as fun, no players for the events and some are either extremely hard or impossible to solo.

[@MMO-SKY]

No player for events ? Yea that's odd I haven't ran into that one yet....as for being able to solo events ...some builds are wayyyyy better for that but unfortunately you don't learn that unless someone in the community tells you since the game doesn't as far as I'm aware

[@henrylauer5402]

For reference, The living world seasons were free if you logged in and played them and then if you did not play them by the time the next one launched, you would have to pay to unlock it

[@MMO-SKY]

Ah I see however I don't believe this applies to new players at all as you would have to have been playing from years ago to see the release of the older living world seasons and reap that benefit? Yea?

[@wickedfuctup]

​@@MMO-SKY that is fair yes. During holidays, they were dirt cheap on sale. Even as a pre-launch player like myself where I wasn't able to log in and capture each episode, I eventually had to buy them.

[@FitFrenzyy]

​@@MMO-SKY yeah doesn't apply to new players. I guess it was more designed for player retension rather than new players. They have moved away from this system and are releasing yearly expansions essentially. These are still broken up but you buy it and you get all the patches.

[@xj3233]

I enjoyed this video - keep it up my man!

[@MMO-SKY]

appreciate it

[@sp00g37]

ill be the weird person, i really hate weapon swap mechanics. i loved gw1 for 7 years, and that whole weapon swap mechanic killed my vibe every time i played gw2

[@Jaydo]

The difference between how I understood combat during the first several years compared to how I understand it has made my characters 3x or more stronger than they were. Going from spamming random stuff and eating mechanics, to knowing optimal skills and dodging/blocking/invulning most things for myself and my party is night and day. I wish people understood that about gw2.

[@MMO-SKY]

Yes this is you improving as a player not your actual character getting stronger there is a difference.

[@SeeHang]

people complain about to do after the story, there’s plenty. firstly, most players forget gw2 is extremely social. meaning you should really consider doing things with other players including socializing with them. a big reason why people struggle with retention in this game is because they’re used to other crappy games that just having you follow point a to point b. if you find a good guild they will invite you to do other things in game. i see a constant theme in new players who are basically anti social-and those who don’t want to change, probably should understand early on that this game might not be for you. this game has various game modes, mini games and odd quests and systems for people to keep playing but often why people leave is because they never really tried to play with other players. those who get to explore wvw have a greater understanding of the end game, and most pve people don’t like to get out of their comfort zone. only those who are willing to explore theme further beyond their comfort zone tend to really stick around in the game because the challenge and social aspect of the game can drive you to come back day after day year after year. those who treat this like it’s not an mmo, tend to suffer the fate of buy and throw away

[@MMO-SKY]

Throne and liberty is giga pay to win but despite that I recommend you try it when it comes to the west. You can't do anything in that game without talking to other players and your guild. Gw2 doesn't really give me a reason to talk to anyone...unless I want to raid if I'm being honest. Sure you can be social but the game should also incentivise you for bring social ...if not people won't ...ff14 has this same problem

[@MMO-SKY]

Also love wvw it's my favorite game mode by far

[@darkwindwaver]

the problem with raids is that they launched without difficulity settings which meant they were far too difficult for 90% of players at the time, but at the same time there was no challange for players that actually wanted to play hardcore. This has been corrected to an extent with the addition of emboldened mode and wings 4-7 have proper challange modes, but the first impressions stuck and engagement with this type of content remained low, despite it's genuinely high quality.

[@MMO-SKY]

Well I'm supposed to be doing raids later today so we will see

[@Jaydo]

The raids are really easy though, but people's anxiety concerning failure, and too many PUG leaders being total jerks ruins everyone's perception before they even get into a group.

[@unknowncomic4107]

I like GW2, at least I like the mechanics and the look and some of the gameplay. Ultimately, I quit playing because it was just too grindy. It was grindy quests nested within bigger grindy quests and I just got bored. I never felt like I was going anywhere or accomplishing anything and that I would never get into the end game (which I understand is not all that great either). I still look back on it fondly though, and wish.

[@PercWillhump]

I really think the Guild Wars games are really cool. They just really aren't for me. I have no idea what it is about it. I've picked both games up, gave both an honest try, but if its from the available races or how the gameplay feels or even the world, it just isn't for me. The point you make about lack of advertising is valid though, and it is impressive how this game has been able to be as big as it is seemingly only through word of mouth. Good video though, I like your takes. Subbed.

[@xoawolf]

What a breath of fresh air to not have some unhinged hater post a unreasonable take on the game. The game def has issues, but it's not this horrible abomination that some peeps think, so thanks for actually bein level headed with this.

[@jale8455]

Its game for care bears when it comes to difficulty .

[@acev3521]

People play literally one button games like poe or Diablo I don’t think difficulty is the issue

[@UchihaMadaraGr]

The bad advertisement hits hard in GW2. And that comes from GW1 years even. I remember it was like always the no 2 to WoW. I know the game from ...RL friends, not from ANY internet source. Suddenly a FF14 comes and sits as no2 , maybe a better game in some aspects than WoW ... heavily punishes WoW for its mistakes , really pushing it (they brought classic servers to gather the pirates from all around ) ... Damn they do the damage!! They made things moving and that's better for every playerbase!!! Meanwhile... sad thing ...GW2 was always there. Had the gameplay to push the market, PvP is better than WoWs ...BIG SELLING point and that's where WoW hurts the most... Still even after what FF14 did, they don't even try to breakthrough... FF14 hit bad the PvE playerbase , way easier to get into... way better for the casual crowd (the mass). At this point GW2 could follow with the PvP crowd... Nope... they didn't react. And... Look at it. WoW is WoW... Comes from ...30 years story or something... has novels/books. Warcraft was made an industry on its own.... good or bad. FF14... carries the name Final Fantasy... Gaming wise the name carries equal power with Warcraft... Those are names alone. GW2... even if it is/was a better game (depends on tastes) . How you sell...? Without promotion...? Without highlighting your main advantages? Personally i've played all of them (didn't played ESO...but it falls in the same category with GW2 with the exception that i didn't know the game from friends , no one in my circles played it and i don't have feedback about it). Everything else ... i've played. (You know that itch to find something better than WoW and ditch actiblizzard... makes you really try stuff). Content creators... Yes , people , i understand you guys that you can't do stuff you don't like...all the time at least. It's not easy. You do it because you like it and thank you ! But , if someone goes full time with it... man i compare it with TV commentators etc. (in a smaller scale...yet) . You're way in it... you need quality... you need money to bring that quality ...in order to make money and at least make it a sustainable job. You picked it not for the easy money... you picked that job because you have to do something that you like and make money. GW2 ...can't bring the number . And it is not your fault. You will have to do stuff you may not like (play WoW or LoL whatever...you name a game) , BE GOOD in that game , be funny...catchphrases etc. actually ...SELL IT , promote IT... So you can bring people to GW2 , then become involved with those people in GW2 because they'll look for you and you'll need that stable community in order to play the game you like , do content you like and actually sustain it... The question is... does it worth the effort? Possibly no. Too much time invested.... Will the company support you financially to do the promo? No... Are you so sure that you can make it and succeed? No. If you don't who pays the bills? And let's be honest... we're gamers... we're adults , we have things to take care ...You can't do any job for that matter , where you put that much time , you may put money in it and the whole thing doesn't come around. It's like making a coffee shop and sell 100 coffees per month... is it sustainable? No... Is it worthy to keep investing? No...

[@lathamtk]

I played GW2 since it's release, up to the point Path of Fire was released. There were a couple of things that contributed to me quitting the game, in no particular order: 1) They abandoned dungeons before raids were even a thing in Heart of Thorns. Now I'm hearing (from you) that they even abandoned raids. 2) They got lazy with releasing whole outfits instead of armor bundles that you could mix & match to create unique looks. 3) When raids released the community was very elitist. One month after clearing the first raid wing, people were already gatekeeping the content. "oh you've never done it? this is your first time here? Sorry, kick!" 4) Once you were geared and did all map explorations to 100% in Heart of Thorns... there really wasn't much to do. Either achievement hunting or fill up those weird region or expansion specific metapowers that aided you in overworld exploration. I remember some content was locked behind these metapowers like 'holding your breath for longer in poisonous air' or 'higher jumps off the mushrooms' etc. 5) You know how FF14 makes you feel like you're part of a team during the story? You have Scions of the Seventh Dawn and you feel like you belong there. In GW2 you have Dragon's Watch and it feels like you're running a kindergarten or a daycare. They should've made you (the playable character) reforge & join Destiny's Blade. Braham, Kasmeer, Marjory are completely clueless individuals that have no idea how the world around them works, and neither do you. It's a clownfiesta. 6) NOT AT ALL ALT FRIENDLY. I think I had 1 character for every job in GW2. I can't imagine going back to that after experiencing FF14's jobstones and only needing 1 character to experience the whole game. 7) The constant need to gold grind only to get snubbed by price fixers on the marketboard. Its a very well known fact in the community that a very small group of people are running the economy of every server. They don't play the game, they just sit around the auction house and price fix. 8) I played for 3668 hours between the release of GW2 (I was a week1 player, not a day 1, but week 1) and Path of Fire. NEVER did I get a precursor drop for a legendary. Not even for the aquatic ones. Meanwhile ~50 hour shitstains would get their precursor drops. It was SOULCRUSHING.

[@cyborg7162]

gw2 doesnt promote any kind of competitive content, its only about loging in, pushing 1 button collect rewards and log off hence why no one give attention to content creators, what do you want to look at ?

[@triple1]

It's about the lack of marketing hence it's not as big as wow and ff14 for example, all about the economy, nothing to do with competitiveness or even the quality of the game.

[@thatoneguyffs]

Anyone with unbelieveable hours in a video game i think ok they are just not closing the game and leaveing it up / open running while they sleep so they can throw a big number around.

[@thatoneguyffs]

I was in a raiding guild in wow and it felt like another job to log in at this time because most were not ok and drug out the raid times also they all got butt hurt when i had to take the dog out and everytime someone would say something i would come back with just because you are ok with cleaning up your dogs pee and poop dont mean i am ok with that also you dog thinks your house is its bathroom. No one liked that response at all.

[@MMO-SKY]

Umm kinda hard to read this but when raiding it's important to realize that your time is not your own and you should take care of all irl responsibilities before or after raid time so that you do not disrespect the time of your other raid members

[@thatoneguyffs]

@@MMO-SKY I would take dog out 10 mins before raid time 6pm and once more during the break at 8pm its just some times dog would have to take a shit during the break which was 5 min and my dog takes 15 - 20 min poops because he for some reason needs to poop around the whole perimeter of the yard. I also told them all this info and they said it was ok. 1 week later they are making all these passive aggressive comments and my comeback everytime was your house prob smells like dog poop and pee. And there were people in the guild we would prefer their dogs to go to the bathroom inside their house because it was easier for them

[@MMO-SKY]

@@thatoneguyffs oh well if you told them before hand and they accepted you into the group anyways knowing the situation then yea thats on them not you.

[@thatoneguyffs]

I quit once i saw that my first mount had a timer on it

[@ilmisxx2]

You did not buy the game did you 🤣

[@thatoneguyffs]

@@ilmisxx2 why would I pay for trash? I made a new toon on My friends account years back. And that's what I told him

[@ilmisxx2]

@@thatoneguyffs well if you had bought it you would know that there is no timer on any mount. Everything you get, you keep forever. Once you get BIS gear, it stays that way forever, there is no gear treadmill. Trash? I don't think there is a better mmo on the market. Is it for everyone? Probably not but it's certainly not trash

[@thatoneguyffs]

@@ilmisxx2 I also didn't like the gameplay of spam all your buttons swap weapons repeat forever also then why did it give me a mount with 80 some odd days and a count down timer on it?

[@ilmisxx2]

@@thatoneguyffs you misunderstood the gameplay too then. You dont just mindlessly spam skills and swap weapons. Weapons have different strenghts and weaknesses and every class uses the same weapon in a different way. It's how you get better at the game, instead of getting new gear with better stats you get better at game mechanics and good players do 3x damage compared to bad ones, it's a skill based game. The game gave you a raptor mount with a timer in core maps so you can travel faster. Core maps were designed without mounts, once you unlock mounts by playing expansion content they have no timer and you also upgrade certain traits of mounts by leveling up mastery level. There is no timer on anything, once you unlock you keep it forever, there is no monthly sub fee, once tou buy the game you keep it forever

[@SeeHang]

the thing about those mini expansions labeled as living world seasons, it’s free for those who were originally there for the release of the game. you’re late if you had to buy it. that’s all it means. why should you pay for it? because it’s not apart of the base game and it’s not apart of the expansions. what people have a problem for is the fact that they don’t want to understand why some people got things for free and others didn’t. just like how most games have beta access. anet /gw2 just had a unique approach to it and it costs money to keep those servers alive for you to replay. that’s why you paid for it. the way people complain about these things is really telling that people don’t know what they’re talking about and just want more free things from basically a successful indie company. anet/ncsoft is not as big as other game developers. people who complain like this have zero understanding about what it takes to build a game and keep it around for 20 years. anet doesn’t have the same issues as blizzard, but all of these doomers think because the game has been around as long should be on the same level without considering the size of the studio.

[@KachZz]

Because it's boring. I love Gw2 but at some point game becomes really stale!

[@triple1]

All mmos get stale. It's nothing new after couple thousand hours. gw2 has so much more to do compared to others and you don't feel like you are wasting your time doing it.

[@vaddick]

I just got tired of the constant rebalances and the long currency conversions. You down a boss and get some arbitrary materials for crafting... thanks ... i only need to do it 100 more times to get something. The constant run around of builds and gear is just an endless grind. Or you create the legendaries which is still a near endless grind if you don't have 8 hrs a day to stand on the game. I wish em well and i have prolly 2k hrs in the game. Just nothing exciting or rewarding seems to happen.

[@triple1]

Just wanna clarify something about legendaries crafting.. I play around 10-15 hours per week, none of them is mindless grind, I just mix it up with different game modes... I create a new legendary every 1-1.5 months.. so it's nothing that takes forever, you are exaggerating a little. I also have 3-4 alt characters that I parked at some locations. Nothing crazy like market manipulation or anything. But I get it, after 2k hours, if it's not exciting anymore maybe it's time to try other mmos as well. I did that and it made me appreciate gw2 more :D

[@vaddick]

@@triple1 Not exactly certain what you are "clarifying" You are going to put in approx 2k gold for each piece on average. Regardless of if you farm the mats yourself or closer to 3k gold if you don't. Unless you spend about 8 to 17 hrs in a spread sheet attempting to find which metas give you a part of what you need, a newer player has no clue. " Just wiki bruh!" yes you are correct there is nothing intuitive about the games economy to the point that you must heavily rely on multiple 3rd party websites. Im not dogging the game just setting the reality. You don't get to make a new legendary every 1 to 2 months unless you grind very very specific loops otherwise you can spend months running in circles.

[@triple1]

@@vaddick i'm enjoying wvw i get passive income from there most of my time...I use reward track buffs to speed up getting bonus mythic clovers and volatile magic. once in a while i do tangled depths + auric basin meta sometimes pinata + leyline... These things don't take too much time.. I also have volatile magic gathering tools, so I actually get most of my mats from the volatile magic... Got passive income from the alts e.g. collecting bjora marches currency from the chests daily -> convert them to volatile magic (2 min max) What the hell are you assuming about 3rd party websites.. i never look at a spreadsheet and don't care.. I just play casually and I craft legendaries easily with the correct knowledge is all I'm saying.. The point is not to gotcha strangers on the internet.. I'm just trying to helpful. It just accumulates naturally.. for example from the wizard's vault i completed gen1 this month (world completion took a week) and I bought mythic clovers from the vault and bought some more with fractal currency..

[@thatoneguyffs]

Imo guild wars 2 isnt as good as people say / think.

[@triple1]

Did you play all the expansions ?

[@thatoneguyffs]

@@triple1 I would have to get past the base game for that to happen and I couldnt get over the fact a mount had a count down timer on it and it made me think if they are willing to give me a temp mount what else would I get that will be taken away from me so I didnt make it past the 10 hour mark

[@triple1]

@@thatoneguyffs I would strongly recommend to give it a go. I think actually that's probably the only smart marketing they did so far by giving the mount for a specific amount of time to make ppl buy the game. Other than that they made no effort whatsoever marketing wise.. Actually until the second expansion, there were no mounts in the game. So that's something they introduced to new players much later in the game. Nothing else is behind a paywall other than buying the game and the expansions. If you are looking for a predatory company, I think ANet is way less exploitative than any other mmo studios.

[@MMO-SKY]

they should do a promotion like bdo and give a good mount to players just for logging in ...bdo saw a 50 percent increase in playerbase because of that. also yes arena net is far less prediatory than some mmo companies ...although ...selling inventory slots is...yeaaaaa not the greatest look lol

[@BillRoyMcBill]

The last two expansion stories have increasingly ramped up the 'Lez-Melo Drama'...if that's your thing, you'll love it...if you hate it, well that's too bad Bigot!

[@MMO-SKY]

What does that even mean lol

[@BillRoyMcBill]

@@MMO-SKY The main characters that the story revolves around, and which you Have to interact with, are all into same-sex drama, and dwelling and boo-hooing about their regrets and depression...that's not the kind of 'action/adventure' I like in the games I play. It didn't start out this way.

[@MMO-SKY]

@@BillRoyMcBill ohhh lol I see what you are saying.

[@vobic13]

GW2 has been a bad and dead game for a very long time and anyone who would say other wise is just in deep denial

[@MMO-SKY]

you have any numbers to back your claim ...because this year its ncsoft most profitable game soooo cant be that dead lol

[@triple1]

Bro what is your game ? just show us your true power level pls

[@MMO-SKY]

@@triple1 lol my what ? Also I have no game for now that's why my name is MMO Sky I will play all relevant mmos until their end game to find out which mmo I can truly call home

[@vobic13]

@@MMO-SKY when a game NEEDS to go to steam to get more eyes on it that's the signs of a dying game. their most profitable game? cool your game is being carried by whales who buy everything in the store. stay in your bubble of denial also pray NCsoft doesn't pull the plug like they did to wildstar.

[@wickedfuctup]

Dead? Lol. Nope

[@dragonspit77]

GW2 is a trash game that honestly should have died years ago and is only being kept afloat by whales and copium.

[@TaLa7aMcHo]

The biggest reason that content creators in general quit the game , because the game is not done for people that spend 2+ hours at a raid/dungeon/mythic or whatever with a 100+ mechasnics . The game is made in such a sense that each and every player can and should participate in. And some people should say "oh there is nothing more to do" - well have you done all the achievements and crafted all the legendary items and comppleted the 100% of every map ? If you haven't , then you have no right to whine.