Why Prep? I Will Just Take From Others!

[@Saintbow]

I've lived through a few direct hits from hurricanes, lost my home twice, and had to spend weeks after the storm without aid. I can honestly tell you, running a generator is announcing to the world you have shit and looters will be coming. I had to "discourage" one individual the 2nd night after Hurricane Ian. Those weeks after the storm forced me to burn through most/some of my supplies, but it allowed me to find out what worked and what did not work. You would not believe how crafty you will become when you have to Mad Max it for a few weeks. Stay safe gents!

[@PhillipFelix-kw3zi]

Solar power works well and a sound proof box over the generator would help.vented for exhaust. Someone should always be awake during the night because that's when the monsters come out. 92 riot lessons learned and enhanced as time went on.

[@johnmeyer5496]

Your best personnel in your group, need to be your night watch people, provided you have others, if not better have a couple of “well trained” dogs.

[@jefferywylie4456]

Traps are for two legged animals too. Military taught me well.

[@Artisticpatina]

Ypp

[@zoomzoom3950]

I've been through a few hurricanes here too. I evacuated the first time, but it took so long to get back to my home, I've stayed in my house and ignored mandatory evacuations. Long story, but I'll spare everyone; basically it's government ineptitude and poor planning. Unless it's a Cat 5+ coming straight for our island, I'm staying home during the storm. The house is built for the storms here, including hurricanes, it's the tornados that could really cause damage and destruction. My house and I have been through a few hurricanes, tropical storms, etc. luckily no tornados though there have been several around the area. I'm sure my house / roof have weakened over time due to the storms; but I don't trust contractors; if my roof blows off then I'll know I need a new roof for certain; vs having a contractor tell me I need one when I may not.

[@MrJamesDolph]

Man is speaking the truth. Any wise prepper knows to avoid gunfights. Why make enemies when you should be building alliances

[@johnmeyer5496]

You might have been myself 30 years ago, I am older and certainly not over the hill, however I have to be realistic about my current abilities and my planning has been redirected to meet those new limitations.

[@caravanlifenz]

Well said.

[@OnTheWaySoon]

Makin an alliance is risky. In those times, many will become loveless and heartless....selfish! Only with people you know and trust.

[@OnTheWaySoon]

You can meet someone that seems to be friendly and helpful, but sleeping and waking up with them taking all of your stuff is a reality

[@mokane86]

@@OnTheWaySoonallies need to be made in advance with neighbors. You can’t trust a stranger post collapse. Especially not early on. Wise to be prepped enough that you can go a few MONTHS without needing outside aid. Weed out potential false allies with time so that those you meet will at least be of the somewhat capable variety.

[@rogerwood5228]

Those that think they'll just loot through a crisis is seriously fooling themselves. The presumption that other people aren't preparing for that scenario is gravely mistaken. Furthermore, they aren't considering what happens to them once normality resumes. People aren't going to just let you off for what you did.

[@sword-and-shield]

Well, seeing how they are looting with no crisis, its pretty easy to see they will during one as well. So you appear to be fooling yourself. If it gets serious, there will always be plenty of deaths, and plenty off looting.

[@rogerwood5228]

@sword-and-shield the difference there is those that were looted surrendered their security to the state under the false assumption they would be protected. That's not me.

[@sword-and-shield]

@@rogerwood5228 The difference where? But I am straight with the last part of it, and agree, depending on the state of course.

[@Blackstar-yd3yf]

​@@rogerwood5228yeah but they won't know the state can't protect them till it happens 😂

[@TheScotsman1977]

Be an ant, not a grasshopper.

[@jasonkirkland7587]

I started a preparedness class at my church. Found like-minded people and helped them start getting prepared. All with morality and values at the top of list

[@JT-cf5ol]

wish the churches I've attended were that wise 😞 Either too scared or part of the problem (liberals, apathetic etc) that got us here in the first place.

[@Wesmancan]

That goes out the window quick for many. The good will be few and far between.

[@chrisbatson3096]

Remember everyone, no matter how much you think youre john wick, there is always someone better than you. Even if theyre not, it only takes granny getting lucky once to end your shenanigans.

[@randolphstead2988]

Yup, and there are babayagas out there, too.

[@user-nu8in3ey8c]

John Wick, unless his survival was ordained, would in real life, by sheer numbers, eventually die. Every round fired has a probability of hitting him somewhere important. Furthermore you won't see every shot coming. Snipers you cannot see them coming, someone hidden, you won't see it coming, and you won't see every trap or ambush coming.

[@supertom8552]

Exactly right !

[@CarnivoreHealsAutoimmune]

Remember John wick has plot armor. So does every other hero you liked. The movie was just the one time in the multiverse they got lucky

[@user-nu8in3ey8c]

​@@CarnivoreHealsAutoimmune There are some real life individuals that seemed to have plot armor: The Unkllable Soldier, for example, fought in WWI, WWII, and every war he could, losing fingers, being shot multiple times. That particular man seemed to have very very lucky. He also loved being in wars, and sports. George Washington survived, and after one battle he had four bullet holes in the back of his coat. Washington was either blessed or lucky or both. That being said, eventually luck runs out if you tempt fate severely enough over and over again.

[@burgundypoint]

Avoidance of confrontation is the most secure survival strategy. There is always someone crazier than you. Something to keep in mind even during your daily commute, don't give in to aggressive tendencies thinking you will dominate the situation, you might run into someone that will take it further than you are willing to go. So if your survival strategy is to initiate fights on the regular, your run will be exciting but short lived.

[@taramaforhaikido7272]

I'd look people in the eye and let them know what they're messing with. Just don't show the fear. Keep a cool head. Warn and inform. Make it clear I'm prepared to lose. In other words even killing me wouldn't stop me. Get some allies to deal a harsh, heavy blow if the enemy dares to strike. This way people are informed. It's kept honest. And it only becomes a war if they choose it. Get on my bad side enough and I'll be doing much worse. I'm not so merciful as to kill. It's the mind I'll be targeting. Just to be clear I am the kind of guy that has broken a therapist. Do you really want to try stealing from someone that can get those kind of results? Now put the food you tried to steal down and keep walking before I capture you and do worse then kill. Just be glad I always give fair warning.

[@jmentz]

There is a saying: "Live by the sword, die by the sword", and it's true.

[@kevinbenoit7167]

This is why when SHTF happens it so important to bunker down at home for the first 90 days and NEVER leave home. Let all the bad things happen and the smart will be alive in the end with more resources and strength.

[@michaelsarkisian1047]

I mostly agree, but I prefer a full 6 months of hunker down.

[@TheScotsman1977]

Be flexible and adaptable.

[@N0sf3r4tuR1s3n]

Yeah, after a few months most of the people who weren't going to make it are gone, if not all of them.

[@ddoherty5956]

Ok, if you have a water source.

[@kevinbenoit7167]

@@michaelsarkisian1047 the time frame my vary depending on your population density.

[@aarond1622]

As I say to others; I prep because I like to eat. I enjoy some confort. I don't 'want' to get involved in violence with desperate people, nor to resort to cannibalism, nor raid others for essentials... But if needed, as I've said also...I can't eat my morals. I believe most, not all, preppers have a fair chance of going wolf if they lose their security that prepping brings. The sad thing is most preppers live in a fictional world driven by poorly written books and movies and often listen to and then repeat BS that they heard a more established/ dominant prepper spew. But, yeah, living by the sword for survival is highly risky and only the desperate should even consider it. So PREP AND DON'T STOP!

[@westvirginiaminer3046]

Most people will drop their morals when their wife or children are starving. However when you run up on a real prepper, you are more than likely gonna die. Trying to take an objective that has been preparing and waiting on you just to see if all those IEDs they setup when the SHTF works.

[@aarond1622]

@@westvirginiaminer3046 exactly. Which is why I think the first to die and be preyed upon are the elderly, single mothers, young adults who have little defensive abilities and probably leftist who were ear marked before SHTF even happened. Before Y2K decades ago I was a 30-ish father of 4 and one of my elderly neighbors popped out a generator. I couldn't afford that but I had a lot of what I needed and firearms. I quipped that if things got bad, I knew where I'd get a generator. Now, older and better off, I believe in social behavior and have a handful of people earmarked for a mag. Mostly medical professionals and veterinary experts in horse farm county. Land to farm and a group of people with vitally needed skills to barter with and help preserve and rebuild. Prep not to just survive or thrive in a collapsed civilization but to do our best to recover and rebuild.

[@ClaudeBohls]

Live by the sword die by the sword

[@eliot1970]

​@@aarond1622"leftist who were earmarked" you love in an asinine bubble. You'll be gone in short order. All your real enemy will be MAGA, guaranfknteed.

[@randythomas3478]

You are only half way there. Prepping is temporary. Surviving is long-term. Your stockpile of canned and dried foods? You'll starve unless you know how to live as though it's 1800s.

[@laytonhallmen6850]

I met too many people that are either an armchair prepper or that they will just start kicking in doors and stealing what ever they want, one person said they watch who stocks up so he would know who to kill first to take there food I quit going to his store after that and tell everyone I know to stop doing business there.

[@Hebesgugl]

For someone who went through the war and with some fair military training, when SHTF and true panic set in, EVERYTHING will change! And I mean everything: your group could disintegrate in minutes, your trusted friend could turn a back on you, heck even your brother, etc. The US is especially in deep s*it because you're living, generally speaking, a way from your family and an army of "immigrants" just waiting for an order to create chaos. I don't want to spread fear here, but the best preparation is to PRAY that something like that never happens! Yes, please do have your water source, food, garden, generator, guns, MREs... but start praying TODAY like you've never prayed before! The situation we are all in, regardless of the country or continent, was designed decades ago by forces that hate humanity and God, and our fixation on catastrophe will only bring it faster to our reality! Your mind is the best tool you'll ever have, so imagine a peaceful life in love and harmony; maybe this vibration could disrupt the plans of the evil ones? Good luck to us all!

[@TNTUXO]

Have a good independence day everyone!!!

[@DoomsDayDonnie2024]

Stay free stay frosty

[@Troy-nr7ku]

Wolf preppers as I believe they're called will last about a week before they try taking from the wrong people. Then they will be pushing up daisies.

[@maxpinson5002]

Stay a LRRP Stay alive

[@chesterricherson3565]

I was special operations, Marine Corps, lone recon, I stayed alive by paying attention to what was going on around me, I wasn't the only one in special ops, there were many more.....I'm still alive at 70 years old....

[@ryanwaddell6278]

Exactly its independence day not the 4th of July if you call it the 4th of July that means you share more in common with those people that don't know what the hell gender they are than actual real Americans because the left is the one that come up with the 4th of July because they don't want to acknowledge our independence or Constitution.

[@richardkennedy815]

I have lived this lifestyle for a lifetime...and I'm an old guy. People that think like this [the raiders] have always been there. That there is now a name for it [asymmetrical preppers] is kind of cool. Understand, some of those clowns will be far better prepared that the examples listed here. REAL preppers need to be ready for them. In a full grid down they WILL come. These misguided souls will add to the risks preppers and families will face.

[@Paul-uw7us]

As an old combat vet I can tell you that all of the training in the world doesn't stand up to real combat. I was trained but still ruined my pants during my first firefight. It really makes a difference when your target shoots back.

[@NCrdwlf]

I had a neighbor tell me that this was his plan. He asked me a few weeks later why I was being a dick and ignoring him, and I reminded him that he threatened to kill me during the first sign of trouble . He ended up leaving the area the next year . He knew half the guys on our road were gwot vets . We have a solid set of families and we've been through a hurricane or two together . We know who's who . Know who's out there . Know your neighbors even if they are a couple acres away.

[@juice_man4439]

Talked to an army vet. He shit his pants during his first firefight too. The only people who won’t are people who’ve already been through it

[@EugeneWorth]

Had a instructor tell me once, I'll just take from as you mentioned,thing is he's urban not country,told him what happens when the urban has no more to take from cause people out in the country sides don't play well and our training is different to theirs

[@terrarecon]

Facts

[@ericarnaud7983]

Afternoon Michael. Good to see you back. Hope the family is doing well and your wife is much better. As to those idiots who think they will survive off other people after a collapse of society, they will not last that long. The odds really are against them in the long run. Great topic.

[@AsymmetricalPreparedness]

Thanks. She is the same

[@ericarnaud7983]

@@AsymmetricalPreparedness so sorry to hear that...will send more prayers your way.

[@twiggybones7040]

There’s a right and wrong way to loot from others. Look at animals, who live in the animal Kingdom. We’re nothing more than them, just more “intelligent,” if that’s even true.

[@chriskitchen4772]

@@twiggybones7040 If your going to take that attitude, there is NO wrong way to loot from others. You can't have it both ways. There are no "nice" looters. BTW I believe that we are more than animals which is why we have a conscience. Jesus died for our sin nature.

[@twiggybones7040]

@@chriskitchen4772 I never once said nice or even moral. If your family is starving in front of your eyes you are lying to yourself if you’d say you won’t do whatever it takes. As to right and wrong. There’s a way to get yourself killed and there’s a way to increase your odds to almost certainty. Dolphins and elephants are highly intelligent animals. We don’t know what they think or how they process things. You, yourself, as you are, have zero capabilities of understanding an animal’s brain wave. To top that, There’s not a brain surgeon alive who can dissect your brain and say “oh yep. This is the mind.” You may feel superior to animals, but it’s naive to think you’re anything more than a mammal. We may have a sophisticated way of life, but we’re humans. A different species of animal. On the food chain when the lights go out. Our biggest predators will certainly be our own species. Ask yourself. What are you willing to do to ensure that your genes don’t take the way of the dodo bird? There very well may be a guy perched up on the high ground waiting to see your head pop from his .300 win mag. All just to raid and pillage your house of your preps. He can be a half mile away. His odds of being successful rely on the probability that he can make that shot. Just because you can’t doesn’t mean he’s of your same skill level. It’s a black pill for sure, but it’s a game of lions and who is going to eat? It’s not the gazelle playing dress up. -this is the right way to loot. Not very many people are capable of stopping this. Sucks, but it’s the reality. I’ve been working in the heat all day. It’s preparation that I ain’t dead.

[@NortheastHobbyfarmer]

When I was there it was Ft. Lewis. I was on North Fort and the 1st special forces were there. The 9th infantry was on the new fort. Rangers were there too though I forget which unit. I once thought about taking what I need way, way back. I realized I could never do that even though I was quite capable. I now have a homestead and a small group of fellow gardeners. We have security, medical, garden experts and myself, a jack of all trades and master of some. Blessings Mike, good to see you.

[@terrarecon]

I started to write a whole paragraph thinking about my years as a Marine, to give my two cents worth of support and how these "fake alphas" would be surprised by how an untrained farmer can take out an elite SOCOM operator given the right circumstances. After a pause and some reflection, here is what I have to say. And if this does not apply or appeal to you just skip it without an attack on my ideology, it's just too easy to respect each other and do that. But, if you want to be truly prepared, I mean in this present day not just the afterlife, if you want to be truly aligned with with faithful strong people, follow Jesus Christ, who will bless your groups and all you do to protect your family and the innocent under your roof and your care. Because, there is ONLY ONE ALPHA and OMEGA, and it's not some random elite guy(s) or guys who think they are. If you have the only true ALPHA on your side, no need to worry about all the fake ones. Because God can make your small group(s) a force to defend the innocent. We stock up on ammo, food, and water, but without God all of that may be for naught. I still ended up writing a paragraph, sorry. God bless.

[@1-CRoss]

AMEN Brother....I pray frequently "LORD let me not look upon these possessions to deliver me and my family. WE look to you for deliverance !!!" I am simply preparing as Joseph did for the up coming famine. Or possibly war, collapse etc. Your words are true WISDOM...MAY THE LORD'S FACE TURN TO AND SHINE UPON YOU & YOURS.. signing off.....USAF LEO K-9 Veteran..

[@AsymmetricalPreparedness]

Amen. And I never attack anyone. We all have differing opinions. It is called Free Will

[@markcocks5295]

Thanks for your post. All best wishes.

[@Tommy-rr7ez]

Brother don't never apologize for giving the most Blessed wisdom that can be given! The ALMIGHTY can and has countless times confused the enemy where they took out each other and a shot, modern day sword, was never fired! The LORD GOD ALMIGHTY Says HE Will send HIS Mighty Angels down from Heaven to Protect me, us, from our enemies and Will lay our enemies at our side at our feet and The ONE and Only ONE True Living GOD Said it so that settles it and there is NO reason to fear! NO man can harm a hair on our head without it going through our Most Precious of All Heavenly FATHER first and HIM allowing it as long as we truly love HIM and doing according to HIS Will! I have a life time of Testimony to back it up and I sure am Thankful of all the times my LORD stepped in! I NEVER EVER want to be put in a situation to where I have to make that decision and I truly Pray my Most Precious of All Heavenly FATHER won't let me be put in that situation! But if it's HIS Will I Pray HIS Wbe done cause I'm a WINNER either way if I stay or if I go! I know it's long but I truly Pray this willbe Blessings to you and others! GOD Bless you and your precious heart that you truly poured out and your love for CHRIST! Happy and safe 4th of July to all!

[@terrarecon]

God bless all you guys! Happy Independence Day as well!

[@surviveplusbushcraft5650]

Moved to a small town about three years ago and I've found the community here is a pretty good group...and most are well armed and pretty decent shots. Coming here to take stuff would be a very bad idea.

[@jamesphillips5868]

You’re going to have to worry about your neighbors, not people coming in.

[@johnnyirish7940]

Once the looters are gone, eventually, people will start to rebuild. Anyone hiding in their bunker is holding on to that hope, or else what's the point. Dude is on point, building strong community ties is just as important as any training or gear you have.

[@TheScotsman1977]

Develop a survival mentality. Pray

[@johnnyirish7940]

@@TheScotsman1977 I'm a combat veteran living in the woods. Survival is what I do.

[@taramaforhaikido7272]

@@TheScotsman1977 No one is coming to save you. Help yourself.

[@scoutdynamics3272]

If these wolf predators form packs, they will fight over the loot. People with such a mindset do not have loyalty

[@hairlessharescrambler56]

Wait till looters target an owner of a backhoe or a hog farm

[@mikealdag7309]

exactly !

[@justadummy8076]

“Hence the saying, as greedy as a pig” - Brick Top

[@jeffsavage6143]

HOG FARM...PERFECT

[@annsaunders5768]

😂

[@MarilynStangl]

Your comment doesn't make sense! Could you elaborate? Are you trying to say that the owners will have the equipment to bury the bodies or the pigs to eat them? Don't go looking for trouble, it'll find you quick enough!

[@michaellewandowski4897]

Anyone that thinks their just going to take from others. They have a death wish. Good luck and Blessings from Mt Shasta CA.

[@brawndothethirstmutilator9848]

If someone is actually all geared up with pews, ammo, and kit, it’s ridiculous not to have food and water. It’s comparatively cheap. Why plan to raid when you could just buy some shelf stable food and barrel some water? No bullet dodging involved.

[@henryc7548]

lots of amoral men are waiting for lower risk opportunities to dominate other people. Some become gang members or criminals, some become jackboots, others do neither but fantasize about being raiders. Its definitely not a practical choice thing.

[@CarnivoreHealsAutoimmune]

Buy the canned beef! 🍖

[@taramaforhaikido7272]

Because how do you know how long it will last? Sure, you can stock up. But even the biggest stockpile will dry up. THEN what?

[@CarnivoreHealsAutoimmune]

@@taramaforhaikido7272 bigger the stockpile the higher chance you get to hide in a hole longer. After that when everyone else is starving and running around like roaches you start eating them lol

[@taramaforhaikido7272]

@@CarnivoreHealsAutoimmune So basically, let people fight amongst themselves then raid them.

[@SonnyCrocket-p6h]

A silenced 22lr, night vision, night sights, armor, subsonic ammo option, can make you a very effective predator. Dont kid yourself that a 22 in you will not be fatal. It might take 24 hours for the fever to drop you, but you WILL drop. Subsonic 22's are still lethal at 125m and you'll have no IDEA where the suppressed shots came from. This is especially true at night. With a decently effective suppressor, run 'wet' with WD-40 and water, and the bolt held shut, you wont hear the shot at 50 FEET. You're correct that shotguns are ineffective pos's for shtf, but the 22 is not, IF it's subsonic, with a silencer and especially at night.

[@twiggybones7040]

Won’t hear the shot at 50 feet? Effective at 125m, and don’t know where the shots are coming from. If you have all the equipment listed, it should only take one shot. Nobody can pin point just one shot and it doesn’t matter the distance.

[@arminiuschatti2287]

Depends on the shotgun. The shotgun is the most versatile weapon you can have and you can use it for drones (Skynet drone shells). I wouldn’t recommend it for an assault, but it’s great for defensive CQC.

[@chesterricherson3565]

AMEN!! Well said!!

[@thebusterdog921]

The ones that get me are the ones that can't resist shooting their mouth off. A couple of months ago, my wife and I and another couple met at a restaurant for dinner. The place was crowded as usual on a Saturday evening. We sat in a booth with people on 3 sides of us. The people that were directly behind my wife and I were actively talking about prepping. Each one tried to one up the other about what they had. Amazing how much I learned that evening. And probably everyone else around them also. Following them home could have been a bonanza to someone with ill intentions. Maybe not that night, but at a later date in an emergency.

[@yellowdog762jb]

A few years ago, I would have been somewhat skeptical on how many people thought like that. But there are more bad folks out there than you realize. I found some guys in the area that actually trained on a regular basis. Most of their training was just shooting drills, and most of the guys weren't very good at it. But some of them also had other useful skills, and overall they seemed like good guys to know. A few months into it, I overheard one of the group's founders talking about just taking what they needed from others after SHTF. His attitude was that he might as well take what he needed from the weak ones before someone else did. I bailed of course.

[@pinerider19]

I have all the gear and ammo, but if anything ever happens, I am not moving. I will hunker down, and be glad that I stored up food, water filters, and med supplies.

[@mitchsiwicki6980]

This is why I don’t talk about it anymore around new people cause I hear that more and more so better to keep my preps among a small group, or even better to my self!

[@gregmccarter2176]

Yep..loose lips sinks ships. And trust no one

[@CarnivoreHealsAutoimmune]

Yeah it's dangerous be careful

[@derpityderp-derp4007]

I prepare mentally to strive to be a good person. I am no soldier nor a tactician. I will defend myself if I have to though I prefer to avoid that if at all possible. But I been homeless, I been poor, I been hurt and I done stood back up like a man.

[@grampabuckshot402]

I tried to join a prepper group a few years back, at the first meeting the main focus was taking from others. They talked about making a list of mormons in the area for future targets......I made a note of who was in attendance and quietly slipped out. I let my cousin who was mormon in on what was said. You have to be carefull out there.

[@effeojnedib7208]

Seek out your local CERT organization. That's the best way I've found to meet those with common interests. There is always someone bigger, faster and stronger. That's where training can be the advantage. I picture some thieves getting taken out by a 70 year old grand maw with a single shot .22 LR. Dang... I'm closer to 70 than I am to 58. I guess I'll put all my preps in my will. lol

[@AsymmetricalPreparedness]

Good idea

[@3buttestradingco.745]

I've been trying to form a CERT locally and haven't had much luck. I do think these are a great asset to any community.

[@effeojnedib7208]

@@3buttestradingco.745 Ours is ran by the county. An ex-fire chief who has lived all over the country, brought the idea up and pushed for it. That was maybe 6-8 years ago. Now we have close to 400 members who have completed the 32 hour training. Graduation is a simulated drill at the fire department training center. Members volunteer to be "victims" and we have people who can do really great make-up so the victims' wounds look real. Our meeting in June was a surprise grid search for a missing elderly man. We were told it was a hurricane prep meeting, but they surprised us. Didn't tell us it was a drill until after we finished searching an area. lol While we have hundreds who have completed the training, only a dozen or so show up for the monthly meetings. Even with the low percentage of regulars, the ones who have been trained should be an asset to their families during an emergency.

[@SonnyCrocket-p6h]

A subsonic 22lr, the 60 gr Aquila variant, will still brain you at 50m, with a temple hit, from a rifle. 50m is a long, long shot at night, when people have no night sights or night vision and 90+% do NOT have such gear. You dont want JUST a 22, just like you dont want JUST a centerfire. You want a silenced shorty AR-15 in 223, with a 22lr conversion unit The 60 gr Aquila 22 ammo will keyhole/tumble when fired thru normal 1 in 16" 22lr twist rate rifling. Thru 1 in 9" rifling in the AR, tho, it works fine.

[@Saintbow]

I use a Ross RS22M (Semi auto rifle with 10 round mags of .22 WMR) and that rifle is a tac driver up at 125 yards. I've seen guys dropping dimes at 200+ yards with it. I've bought a spare barrel to get threaded so I can make a "hush puppy" version. It's a great versatile weapon and I have paired it with a Rough Rider in .22 WMR (it also has the .22 lr cylinder too). I use the setup as my small game hunting setup or when I have to do a quick perimeter check at night. I do own bigger party calibers, but that 22 WMR is a fantastic caliber. I would feel fine if all I had was my Rossi RS22M/Heritage Rough Rider combo. The other weapon I pair the 22 WMR Rough Rider with is my single tube break action 20GA that folds up to fit in your pack. Bought the adapter that allows you to fire the .22 WMR from the shotgun. I use that setup for over night hiking/hobo camping adventures.

[@Subtlenimbus]

And don’t forget a qd optic for the 22lr, because whatever zero you have for 5.56 will be useless when you put in the conversion.

[@hjgraybill]

I have those Aguilar 60 grain subsonics. I had good accuracy (out of a Henry) up to 75-100 yards. But constantly practicing and lots of arching and Kentucky windage practice too. But that was years ago before hand and eye surgery and arthritis . I have a WASR but considering an AR given my current physical status.

[@hjgraybill]

​@@Saintbowyou have given an idea. I've got 2 Rough riders, but no rifle in 22WMR.

[@hawaiiangunner]

That's just the way life is. If life was perfect and everybody was awesome we wouldn't be in the position we are now where we have to be prepping. There are always going to be bad people that do bad things. Nothing changes

[@AsymmetricalPreparedness]

For sure

[@docholt0000]

WISDOM IS THE BEST WEAPON!!! SEMPER FI BROTHER

[@DavidJongibo]

And someone in a ghillie suit ends your day

[@CarnivoreHealsAutoimmune]

Life is so random haha

[@twowheelfarm9024]

In my preps.... I have liquid fuel. Because if I can't have it, NOONE GETS IT.

[@TUKByV1]

Indeed. Road breakdown kits have 3 flares.

[@pabstdrank]

I was really into scouts as a kid, hit a wild patch and spent the end of winter until the end of summer of '09 on the streets around the outskirts of Denver. I learned a lot about living that half woodsy half urban outside life. Never hurt nobody, had a lot of fun for the most part and got a great tan and was in amazing shape. Now I'm old and definitely a house dog.

[@robertlagruth516]

Good video, thank you our forefathers we’re sitting on the step for survival and the freedoms we own, as we celebrate this day that they gave us to remember. 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸%

[@lonewolf77782]

there are a lot of cavalier preppers who believe that their place cannot ever be penetrated or overrun. they believe that because they have a "group" and have weapons and a little bit of training that they can repel any attack. these folks are sadly mistaken...the real marauders will be properly equipped and trained and patient. there is a group near where I live that have the numbers, weapons and weapons training, scenario training, night and thermal capabilities, long range capabilities, encrypted comms, drones with night capabilities, and the transport capabilities to move it all. they are willing to take casualties because there will be plenty of folks who haven't prepared who will join these groups for their own survival. they will scout you for days or weeks before they strike. they will kill the men, take and use then kill the women and traffic the kids. if you have vegetation/trees/forest up against your property line or up against your house you are done for. you need a 300 yard killing zone around your dwelling with kill zones and kill funnels, booby traps, etc. if you are defending yourselves from your house you are done for as well. if you think that Bubba and his buddies are what marauders are then you are so seriously mistaken. I am sorry to say that your advice is flawed. I am not trying to be a debbie-downer...I see it too many prepper groups believing that they can be completely safe from any kind of predator. history and the advice of those who have been there disagree with you. don't be misled by these goons that you see on tv calling themselves "apex" predators. the real marauders will be very, very capable. read pages 417-420 of the LDS Preparedness Manual. Look up Selco Begovic. read "Dark Secrets of SHTF' and SHTF Survival Bootcamp" by Begovic. he survived the Bosnian war in the early 90's. look up Fernando Aguirre. read survival theory II by Jonathan Hollerman who studied and documented human behavior in history of starving nations. Folks, there is a lot more to this than having a rifle, a few buddies that you "patrol" with and a stash of grub.

[@xc8487]

I would argue that creating a 300yd clear zone is just as much a mistake as not cutting anything, simply because any competent riflemen could set up in the tree line and just wait for you to emerge.

[@The_world_is_not_worthy_of_Him]

aww. the ya'llperators think they'll get to use their fancy electronics. Cute. Wonder what they're going to do when all electronics are dead and done for? 🤔

[@michaelmorrison5280]

Found an online PDF of the LDS preparedness manual, started reading and before I knew it I was over a hundred pages in and well past my bedtime. I just went ahead and ordered the book, thanks for the callout on that one.

[@xc8487]

@@The_world_is_not_worthy_of_Him A stockpile of rechargeable lithium batteries would keep tactical electronics running for years to decades. What a lot of preppers miss though is that you're not spending every minute in full kit and that if you piss off a community by becoming raiders then all it would take is a small counter team to track you down. No one is going to tolerate assholes in the apocalypse.

[@lonewolf77782]

@@xc8487 study how the green beret set up a forward operating base during the Vietnam war. Navy Seebees or Army engineers would clear a 300-500 yard clearing around the base then fill that clearing with obstacles to prevent advancement or funnel the enemy into kill zones and traps. Patrols would routinely patrol that perimeter along with LP/OPs to watch for enemy movement. yes, snipers could be and were successful with picking off personnel but was difficult and usually fatal for the shooter. (besides, up in a tree is the worst place to be)

[@greghinerman5935]

in the words of my brothr-in-law... I dont need to prep. thats for right wing extremists... but if shtf DOES happen I'll just come to your house... no dude , you wont

[@zoomzoom3950]

People are going to do whatever they think need to do, depending on their level of desperation and level of craziness. I don't want or need a group. What I need is my oceangoing sailboat. It will be well stocked and ready to go. I live on an island in the Atlantic, open ocean, many islands, coves, bays, etc. that are uninhabited. The boat will have diesel, wind and solar power; watermaker, water purification, spare parts, fishing gear, radar, etc. My retirement plan includes sailing the Caribbean part of each year alone. (singlehanded). The Bahamas alone have over 700 islands, most are uninhabited. If anything happens or doesn't happen in the US, this will still work. If things look bad in the US, I can take a short sail offshore and monitor the situation from there. If the US has internal social breakdown or other internal issues, that doesn't mean every country / location will too.

[@chriswhinery]

I like that plan a lot. I'm sure you've thought of this... What's your strategy to deal with "piracy"?

[@zoomzoom3950]

@@chriswhinery there are many deserted coves in the keys, along Georgia and Florida coasts, many only accessible by boat; same for the Bahamas. The sailboat I plan to get has adjustable draft, around 6" to 18" minimum, depending on which model I get. These can be beached at low tide, dry anchored on the breach; floating up with the tide. So first is location, and not staying anchored / moored / beached anywhere too long. If I see other boats, or the same boat several times, or something that looks questionable, I'll move. It will also have locking cabin, motion sensors / alarms, as well as being armed, for close, medium and long range. One of my hobbies is long range shooting. Situational awareness, as always, will be key.

[@chriswhinery]

@@zoomzoom3950 Nice. Those deserted islands are definitely a sanctuary if things go south. I've spent some time exploring them on the Gulf Coast of Florida.

[@ChadBoss-qr4hl]

Won't storms be a problem? One bad storm and you can lose all of your close, medium, and long range "protective gear". Still a solid plan though.

[@zoomzoom3950]

@@ChadBoss-qr4hl not really, as long as I have weather information and can track the storms; sheltered harbors on the leeward side; knowing the expected trajectory of a storm early can help; unexpected squalls can be worse than gales as they can spin up anytime without much warning or time to avoid.

[@TheScotsman1977]

I was a Boy Scout for six years back in the 1970s. We went camping every month for six years----> excellent training and experience.

[@annsaunders5768]

And if that's what you've got, go with it. But might want to increase your skills for what's coming. This isn't going to be a camping trip.

[@westvirginiaminer3046]

Lol. My $20 cameras off amazon see night vision signatures easily. Mine run off battery backup. When power was out about a month ago, i kept seeing something glowing and moving back and forth across the river about 300 yards away. I finally figured out that it was a camera that was scanning left to right on one of the houses over there. Maybe it couldnt see some tge newer $15K kind. I dont know. I do know my cheap mono night vision shows up on it.

[@henryc7548]

Link please

[@PNWBackwoods]

With all things take work. Once trust is earned all things are possible. Keep on keepen on

[@WadeKnape]

Right now basic food and water is A lot cheaper to stock up then guns and ammo

[@unseenadventures8130]

I like how you said "that's why we prep so we can hold the moral high ground". Even now without shift I find it hard to keep on the good path. But it's very important to do so, even more so during a disaster! Ty

[@taramaforhaikido7272]

There isn't a moal high ground. Only harsh reality. What might help you is keeping an honest reputation. But that's it. The most ruthless, the most cunning, their methods do work and is proven throughout history. Don't underestimate that. Personally I'd use tactics from both extremes. Be ruthless and cunning. Yet invite being a target. Now ask yourself, do you really want to fuck around and find out? Warning and informing covers your ass. If you invite being a target (and actually know what you're doing) then that's going to give even the most ruthless pause. If only because they might sense a trap. And traps I would lay for sure. Only somoene that desires a big challenge would go for that. Which means having to plan for that too. If we're talking planning then I'm talking PLANNING.

[@wolfeguy6451]

Good video. Thank you. Hope we never have to go through what we all know might happen. My kids and grandkids live south of you and i have mentioned they need to find a place to stay safe till i can get there and to make a list of things needed to be prepared(clothes, food,etc, etc.. so they can pack up in a moments notice. They will meet me at a time and location in a designated date when we loose coms. You are right there are people that think they are super and will take what you have, but i have poisoned some of my supples which i will gladly give them. It will ride use of some of those types.. good luck to all of us if it goes south.

[@rogermabry2816]

I am temporary here in Alamogordo N.M working for months . As I have noticed . Most people here don't prep . This area rates high on , this will go badly . Even with a power outage for 30 days . 90% of water is pumped from the ground . Taking a moral high ground , as I like say how's your moral compass . I have skills & gear . Looking for like minded people. Even better if you are a Christian, rough on the edges is OK. Let's face it I have exhausted every avenue trying to meet like minded people here . Strength in numbers . God bless .

[@williammccaslin8527]

Pay attention to the news, if a financial collapse is to happen before the election, get out of N.M. an get back to home, wearever that is. Before I retired I traveled allover the country myself. An the desert is know place trying to survive. P. S. Retired to Cen. Fl, lots of greenery an water, fish, etc, etc.

[@shaynehawkins713]

Exactly. Communes and not lone wolfing it. I would have active look out points. That intercept people. Then simply ask them what they are looking for. The right answers let them join the commune or let them go.

[@jwdundon]

I live out in the sticks, i know MANY who plan on taking food from the city slickers when THEY COME. -- i have toys, like thermal, those are game changers.... For defense, and offensive roles.

[@DoomsDayDonnie2024]

Too much time between your videos I miss you dude. Love your content keep it up

[@AsymmetricalPreparedness]

More to come!

[@gcvrsa]

Everything here applies just as much to urban locations as it does to rural locations. The only difference is, you might choose different gear because of different terrain. For instance, in an urban area, you should be thinking more about close contacts than about long distance contacts, so that may influence your choice of equipment. And woodland camo is pretty well useless in a city, but so is the typical all-black tacticool look.

[@tracimckay9487]

I watch many prepper videos and take notes. Some good some bad. But nonetheless, I'm at a point now where when I visit a grocery store, I'll spent that extra 20$ to add to my prepps.

[@Ovokor]

From what i can tell raiding is a sure way to die or invite bad things home. On a extended SHTF maybe 1-5% of houses would have what you need. There is a solid chance with a tactic of raiding a person could do 20 raids and still not find what they need. Yet maybe every 5 houses is a fight, raiding is resource intensive and gets really bad if a raid goes wrong. Raiding is aggressive risky foraging, people would be better off learning edibles. Even cities have a lot of edible pants if you know what to eat.

[@magmat0585]

farming and defense. Because if everyone's foraging, even folks who know nothing about it but are starving badly enough to eat grass and random plants, there's gonna be a die off for plants and animals. Deer only started making a return in the US during the 70s due to overhunting from the great depression iirc. We have more people now, and less folks who know how to take care of themselves with basic stuff

[@Ovokor]

@@magmat0585 That is my plan, my dream is to expand my food production to 15 million calories a year so my family and a couple extras can have enough food and a little bit to barter with.

[@blackhillsyeti]

Im old now. Veteran. 65. I was doing wilderness survival since i was a small boy. Grew up in the woods. In my 30's 40's I was assistant scout master for many years. Wilderness survival was on of the merit badges I would teach youngsters to qualify them. Many younger buck a roos have at least an introduction to the basics. I like this video. Count my streanths not my weakness helped me most. There are a lot of bases to cover. As well as protecting our supplies. I'm getting ready to buy sand bags just to have the bags should it come to that. Maybe I'm crazy but i would rather be looking at them then looking for them. Semper Paratus. Always Ready. USCG SAR. Funny how the scout motto is always prepared. Thats been me my entire life. Im a son of liberty. Born patriot. Most importantly I'm a son of the Holy Spirit. God bless us all and may we help those we can and defend those who attempt to pillage. PeaceLoveJoy

[@OzarkPrepper459]

Well said bud. Thanks for the videos

[@AsymmetricalPreparedness]

You bet

[@fboylan16]

Happy independence day from the UK! 🙂

[@michaelball760]

It might work for a very short time, but eventually you will come across someone that planned for that and youll be screwed.

[@LandseerNorth]

Glad to have you back Michael, and glad you're focusing on other things. Like Pastor Joe says, we should prep to live, not live to prep. Don't forget to check out Condor's Stowaway Chest Rig. A good low profile set up. Semper Fi.

[@robertlarsen6516]

Blessings, brother Michael. Hope all is kosher, Sir.

[@Solitario9475]

Honestly I live in Tasmania and firearms are super rare so I’d probably just team up with a farmer since they’d need help with their animals and crops and I’ve got some experience from when I was younger and they’d have rifles so the chances someone shoots at us is quiet unlikely unless they themselves are farmers or have already fought a farmer since farmers are the only ones with rifles these days.

[@magmat0585]

I'm on the other side of the country and agree that the pacific NW is one of the most likely spots for something to kick off. And I also agree that it would be horrible if that happened, we don't live in a vacuum and I could see other countries getting involved, and not to America's benefit.

[@mikeymike8705]

Shhh…we want those people to think they are going to run up on someone else’s AO and just pillage away and get away with it. It’ll be like grub hub…except it’s a wanna be pirate who gets turned into a loot drop lol.

[@AsymmetricalPreparedness]

Yeah, but they might get lucky and take us out also

[@mikeymike8705]

@@AsymmetricalPreparedness Absolutely, being on either end of that scenario is undesirable. But people who truly believe that they will live that lifestyle in a chaotic scenario kind of crack me up. You may get lucky a few times but eventually someone will get you.

[@taramaforhaikido7272]

@@mikeymike8705 Argument works both ways though. At some point someone can get you too. The smarter ones can get away with it as well. The most ruthless. The most cunning. They're not all idiots. Wherever you like it or not the methods can work. And do, if history is anything to go by. Trying to be "moral" about it isn't changing facts here. I''d employ both extremes. I'm ruthless, but I can be diplomatic too. And I'm not so merciful as to kill either. I'd rather send a message. Scares off the weak on both sides then.

[@divinestrike00x78]

My neighbor always talks about how he won’t prep hell just take what he wants. So he’s basically made himself my first target the second SHTF. I can’t have someone like that near my perimeter.

[@nritten6142]

That's a bold strategy cotton, let's see how that works out...

[@Julie-g3u]

No good staying home if you experiencing flooding. Best to bug out. Cheers

[@DamienMuto]

13:06 I'm part of the crowd that does not like the scared content. Not out of fear of the event, but it just makes her bad tactics. If an event really was going down tomorrow, all your plans and movements would be different, then if you're planning for the long haul. Fear content might make people impulse buy, but I personally think it can have effect on long-term thinking. I applaud you for going the honest route.

[@congerthomas1812]

Groups with a guarded perimeter, safety in numbers!

[@ChadOfAllChads]

Wonderfully spoken.

[@warrenglen7636]

About 15 years ago I was in Lowe’s getting some keys made. Somehow the subject came up that the young man was moving to work at the Cabelas in the gun department. We talked about fun’s a little and he just casually mentioned he had a rifle and scope, and that was all he needed. I questioned him and he said he would just shoot somebody and take theirs if TSHTF. My thought was that the other person has a say in the matter too.

[@theintrovertedcalifornian5047]

I think people who live in rural areas will work together for the common good. On the other hand city people will be purged

[@CarnivoreHealsAutoimmune]

We gonna turn into roaches haha

[@BlueJayWaters]

If you know someone who actively says they aren't going to prep because they can take what they need, add them to your list and move on. Watch them when things go south

[@Andy-sy1ko]

Admittedly, I am underprepped though not completely. Survival training from the military will definitely help me tremendously including escape and envasion. This is not to be misunderstood as a flight or die mindset but only a prepped one. My barrells will stay hot if necessary and what I have I will gladly share with those who need help. God bless America.

[@steveturansky9031]

Marauding/attacking others for their supplies is very dangerous, not only for the victim but for those doing the attacking. It won't be long before the attacker walks into an ambush and when the Rule Of Law breaks down, it breaks down for the defenders too. There will be far less, if any, scrutiny on a groups that are attacked and kill marauders in defense. Marauders will always be walking into unknown situations that do not bode well for long term survival and even small injuries will be life threatening.

[@squirrellordsgaming2772]

Damn, I live near Seattle as well, and I’m looking for people. And I’m not sure how to start. I am prior service medic just looking to refresh my skills and get back into shape.

[@mountaineer5267]

I guess they think we’re just going to give it up with a fight. They should know assaulting a defendable position against trained people is costly!

[@robertackler5372]

The preppers, especially those who plan on taking a defensive posture, have home court advantage. Someone thoughtful enough to prep is also thoughtful enough to anticipate your approach.

[@sword-and-shield]

Depends more on HOW it goes down. If it is serious, the amount of deaths will always result in all kinds of people taking from others, breeding more deaths, and taking from people, and more deaths and so on and so on.

[@jimketchum3169]

Great video, Michael! Happy 4th!🗽🇺🇸🤙

[@everettrhay4855]

The average doomsday marauder life expectancy is about approximately 168 hrs post collapse. The key is, everyone in your AO needs to be as prepared as possible. That way the mutual assistance becomes a force multiplier. Love ya PNW brother.

[@AsymmetricalPreparedness]

Amen

[@Dslats]

THE MF BETTER HAVE A TANK TO GET MY STUFF.

[@twiggybones7040]

Or just patience.

[@runeingebretsen8378]

@@twiggybones7040 he has to walk through thick forest for one week,before he will reach me,and it wont be warm,and if he does it in the winter no sun.

[@The_world_is_not_worthy_of_Him]

@@twiggybones7040 literally just this lmaooo people really underestimate how vulnerable they truly are. Not sorry, but ain't nobody the main character. You can have a million and 1 preps and still lose it all because the watchman took a piss at the wrong time.

[@henryc7548]

If you have a solid defensive plan do deal with 4-10 armed men who have scouted your home ahead of time and can attack whenever they think you are weakest. I would really like to know so I can implement the same or similar plan.

[@davidgosnell5901]

If they get my food they want live long some of mine has suprises in them and it wil be the end of them

[@alwyndippenaar1643]

I am from South Africa I think we must be part of the solution and not a part of the problem we must stand together I am more of a lone person but in that time we must stand positive together

[@geordiegeorge9041]

From a place you can not see comes a sound you will not hear. Don't get too close.

[@gcvrsa]

If there is one thing that is glaringly obvious about preparedness, it's that community trumps everything else. I don't care if you are the most experienced hardcore person in the world, or how much gear you have. If you don't have people, you have a limited lifespan. Yes, buy gear and supplies, yes, train and practice with them. But first and foremost, above all else, surround yourself with allies.

[@krashlyboo]

Suburbs ....make alliance with all on block or street. Form patrols....monitor vehicle traffic. Allow residents only. Take care of each other. Each neighborhood becomes a community. Then, communities trade and co-defend each other. No solo Rambo stuff needed....work together and rally around family, friends and Constitutional values

[@Abandonsoyciety]

Any military tactician will tell you attacking is far deadlier then defending, as combat is mostly always in favor of the defender. On top of that, how are you going to navigate booby traps, mines, and sniper positions?

[@arminiuschatti2287]

Anyone that thinks they will just take from others will be gone in three months. Assaulting people in a defensive position with limited support means you’ve got a low chance of success.

[@Bryan-uw1ny]

But how many peppers will actually conduct patrol base procedures at their homes?

[@arminiuschatti2287]

@@Bryan-uw1ny Not many, but the law of averages suggests wolf preppers will meet their end in surprising ways. Grandma with a 12 ga., 9-year old toting daddy’s 9mm, 12 year old girl with a 22 LR, etc.

[@taramaforhaikido7272]

And yet history has repeatedly proven it's a tactic that works. The smarter ruthless people will make sure it works. You undestimate this. You're not thinking ahead. You're not planning for the worst outcome. You're falling into the trap of thinking your expectations will match reality. What if it doesn't?

[@arminiuschatti2287]

@@taramaforhaikido7272 You misunderstand what I have written. WE ARE prepared for the wolves. That is why those preppers that think they will just take what they want will meet an untimely end. Trip wires, pressure plates, motion sensor and command detonated awaits them, to include fecal laced punji sticks and bear traps. Her in the U.S. it gets extremely fun when much of the population has firearms. No. Forming mutual communities with like minded and equally prepared people is the key to survival.

[@neilerd]

I really like this guy! Balanced. Real. But not being "real" by whining and spreading fear porn. Of anyone I've seen online, this guy is the one I would choose to be my prepper neighbor! I'm going to check out his other content!

[@Tommy-rr7ez]

I believe one of the best down to earth from a good moral heart videos concerning these topics ive ever watched! Thank you! I hate fear mongering porn so called preppers and that canadian person i believe is the worst and he has fattened his pockets and still is off poor people buying into his fear mongering and i realy feel sorry for them! But we must have and need more than ever true HOLY SPIRIT Desernment to see through what Truth and whats False! So thanks for a much needed video!

[@chesterricherson3565]

AMEN!!

[@johnsadler9423]

People are more than welcome to come to east Texas with I am taking you're stuff attitude. The people in that area grew up together and lots of vets. Believe me those east Texas boys grew up in those woods and are prepared. There is no way to get anywhere near those woods with out them knowing you are there. Just the church prepping community is in the hundreds and organized. The hunting lodges are just where they go to practice survival techniques. The small communities at least in East Texas are organized and more than ready. My dad called them the foil hatters. But he had his spot in the group LOL.

[@flashthompson7]

And Blessing to you! Blessed Love ❤️‍🔥 thanks for sharing

[@dennismacphaeddon2185]

Prepping is a life long journey, always working to improve in every way. Sometimes a neighborhood is a good place to be where you know your neighbors and work together. It's all about a positive mindset and being around folks you trust. I've been at this for as long as the guy in the video has been alive. But what do I know?

[@Gunnutz71]

Be careful joining a group of people you don’t know. I joined for a couple years, only to find out, they were planning to take from me, and my friends.

[@gregmccarter2176]

Iv always been a loner..i make my moves wisely. I dont like individuals not doing what i do..and when that happens, you'll loose..theres always one ghomer.

[@blzahz7633]

The thing about the "apex predator"-types is that they really don't care about their own future; the mindset is more of a "I'll go as far as I can." instead of long term planning and sustainability. They don't mind failing in that regard. Trying to reason with them, pleading with them, negotiating or playing fair with them is what enables them. You cannot scare them or hurl ultimatums at them, it doesn't work on them. You just gotta accept them as they are and prepare for them too.

[@ezetram774]

3:06 oh hell no they lead the way 😂

[@alexpervanoglu7420]

It is called SHTF because that is what happens. When / if it does all hell will brek lose, especially in a nation such as the US where firearms are rife. Most wont survive. Most couldn't do two weeks.

[@danieldigiuseppe7912]

I know how you feel. I live in NY state.

[@southernwiprepper1]

I was wondering where u were I went back to make sure I was still a subscriber of yours

[@WolfDragon07]

The only way you will survive the SHTF is by giving and helping others. And building "kibbutz" like communities.