Why Private Billions Are Flowing Into Fusion

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Bloomberg Originals

Жыл бұрын

As the world searches for a way to avoid climate catastrophe, dozens of fusion startups are putting billions of dollars into the risky quest for unlimited clean power.
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@BrokenSymetry
@BrokenSymetry Жыл бұрын
Very well balanced documentary. I feel you went through effort to present the arguments of both private and public fusion project, without overhypeing, allowing your viewers to reach their own conclusion.
@stevenrn6640
@stevenrn6640 Жыл бұрын
This was a massively over-hyped "documentary". In 2050, fusion will still be 20 years off.
@Captain-Sum.Ting-Wong
@Captain-Sum.Ting-Wong Жыл бұрын
@@stevenrn6640 Congrats, you're the successor of the people who made fun of the prospect of aviation ever happening in the 19th century.
@dixonpinfold2582
@dixonpinfold2582 Жыл бұрын
@@stevenrn6640 It was perhaps also reasonable-sounding in 1893 to say "In 1925, commercial air travel will still be 20 years off." (It began on a small scale in 1914.)
@bobwebber3451
@bobwebber3451 Жыл бұрын
90⁰⁰i0l
@cyberneticbutterfly8506
@cyberneticbutterfly8506 Жыл бұрын
The problem is we the public do not have the background information to make up our own mind on this and the experts can talk circles around us, thus any conclusion I make from this will be either accidentally correct or it will be mistaken.
@chrisaguilera1564
@chrisaguilera1564 Жыл бұрын
I can't even fathom how a device of this type was built given the intricacy it would entail. An absolute marvel of engineering.
@Aj-kl7nl
@Aj-kl7nl Жыл бұрын
I marvel at that lady, In answer to your question ( general quantum mechanics ) .
@49nishant28
@49nishant28 Жыл бұрын
My blessings
@sammyd7857
@sammyd7857 Жыл бұрын
It can be built but it won't work
@pierluigidipietro8097
@pierluigidipietro8097 Жыл бұрын
More a device is complex, more is prone to failure. This law is just inescapable.
@GeneralSamov
@GeneralSamov Жыл бұрын
@@sammyd7857 Ah yes. The old "man wasn't meant to fly" trope all over again. Of course it will work, it works already. It's called stars.
@larrylentini5688
@larrylentini5688 Жыл бұрын
This is one of the best examples I've seen of a traditional media company transitioning to new media
@john.dough.
@john.dough. Жыл бұрын
yeah this is great!!
@stevefowler2112
@stevefowler2112 Жыл бұрын
I'm now a recently retired Ph.D. Aerospace Engineer with America's largest defense contractor, but i can still remember sitting in my 5th grade science class reading a science primer magazine in 1966 that talked about fission and fusion reactors and it said while fission reactors were already commercially workable it would about 30 years until fusion reactors came online.
@JazenValencia
@JazenValencia Жыл бұрын
It's only 20 years away, again.
@alexboros1751
@alexboros1751 Жыл бұрын
Did they teach you how to just make things that work instead of making mass garbage in order to meter everything like a pack of spastics? I was born the next generation they didn't teach us how to make things that work either. So much for education hey. Better off blowing up all the skools & the ppl that run them the world works be a better place.
@elmarmoelzer2229
@elmarmoelzer2229 Жыл бұрын
@@JazenValencia Well Helion is aiming for net electricity in 2024. That is 2 years, not 20... Most of the others are aiming for commercialization in the early 2030ies. That is 10 years. Might accelerate with more money, if they concepts proof viable.
@TheAmericanCatholic
@TheAmericanCatholic Жыл бұрын
It’s now here 56 years later
@chrys3073
@chrys3073 Жыл бұрын
What do you know about gang stalking?
@SloeJuice
@SloeJuice Жыл бұрын
If startups didn't say they can do fusion on short deadlines (like couple years), then they wouldn't get the investors' money. As such, it would be naive to take their promises for granted due to obvious conflict of interests.
@spencervance8484
@spencervance8484 Жыл бұрын
True, but start ups/ private business can move faster than governments. See spacex as an example
@LeonardoRiglietti
@LeonardoRiglietti Жыл бұрын
Yeah, I think there should be some scientists on the team that decides whether to give out the funds, just so they can understand if what they are promising makes sense
@jonathanodude6660
@jonathanodude6660 Жыл бұрын
@@LeonardoRiglietti these are private investors. what they do with their money is not something you can control or dictate. not every single person is a scientist. public funds are 100% being channeled into the most realistic and practical approaches, even if they might not be the best, because the ultimate goal is always a return.
@LeonardoRiglietti
@LeonardoRiglietti Жыл бұрын
@@jonathanodude6660 I think it is more the opposite, private investors want the most practical and promising approaches since they are looking for something to patent and to make money out of, whereas public reasearch is often just for the sake of science.
@jonathanodude6660
@jonathanodude6660 Жыл бұрын
@@LeonardoRiglietti no, private favours the rapid returns and big ideas while public often favours slow methodical research to explore all avenues that only has big breakthroughs every once in a while. you think insulin was discovered on private research?
@emresahindance
@emresahindance Жыл бұрын
It is amazing to live in a time where we can observe the progress in fusion. No matter how long it takes any progress is welcome.
@jeremywilson2878
@jeremywilson2878 Жыл бұрын
I hope they data share this would be great to solve the energy crisis. Greed shouldn’t play a role we have one planet after all.
@HelionEnergy
@HelionEnergy Жыл бұрын
Working on such an important mission is what motivates our entire team. We’re living in a historic moment of human history.
@cletusmandeletusman2328
@cletusmandeletusman2328 Жыл бұрын
@@jeremywilson2878 now that you said it, greed will most likely take a role…
@nick_0
@nick_0 Жыл бұрын
@@jeremywilson2878 well that’s why we have state funded fusion as well, ITER, so it’s not guided by corporate profits. Albeit with the drawbacks of bureaucracy
@isubtothebest6020
@isubtothebest6020 Жыл бұрын
What about it ? Lol fusion happens all the time
@tonyblighe5696
@tonyblighe5696 Жыл бұрын
3:53 "producing more energy than any fusion experiment in history" - we should add that it produced less energy than was put in. The energy out/in ratio is improving, but has not exceeded one, i.e. no fusion reactor has produced net energy output. This is covered later in the video, but I didn't want anyone to get the wrong idea.
@lengooi6125
@lengooi6125 Жыл бұрын
Agree with you. Even if the plasma heat generation gain exceeds 1 --ie Q_plasma >1 , the TOTAL energy needs to be considered. Cooling the magnets, running the facility etc. Also the industry never ever discuss the conversion efficiency of converting the plasma heat to electricity which is much less than 50%. All said and done , even if Q-plasma is 5 or 10 time more efficient , it might not be enough to even break even.
@ooooneeee
@ooooneeee Жыл бұрын
Yeah this is often conveniently not mentioned when talking about fusion experiment records. We are still so very far away from commercial breakeven.
@waynet8953
@waynet8953 Жыл бұрын
@Zichen He : I don't see it..how do you plan to convert the energy to electricity?
@waynet8953
@waynet8953 Жыл бұрын
@Zichen He : Conventional way not very efficient. Fusion is also a long way off; I predict that quantum to electric energy conversion will happen within 2 years.
@waynet8953
@waynet8953 Жыл бұрын
@Zichen He : quantum to electric is what Nichola Tesla did originally, not the photoelectric effect, which is worse than the solar as you stated.
@patricktoulze1274
@patricktoulze1274 Жыл бұрын
On Dec. 5, 2022, a team at Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory’s National Ignition Facility conducted the first controlled fusion experiment in history
@sebastiaanvanwater
@sebastiaanvanwater Жыл бұрын
Like space colonies and finding alien life, fusion reactors are something I've heard for decades... since I was a kid. But it is still something that feels within reach in my lifetime. It is still exciting.
@ArneBab
@ArneBab Жыл бұрын
When I talked to a physicist working on fusion-related topics a few years ago, the inspiring answer to “when” was “maybe in 30 years”. That’s 20 years less than 50 years ago which sounds like a joke, but it’s actually a change of timescale. It is getting closer.
@Lucas-GR
@Lucas-GR Жыл бұрын
it's almost here! hang on tight
@paulheydarian1281
@paulheydarian1281 Жыл бұрын
It may take another century or two of testing and fine tuning for it to work. Meanwhile, fossil fuels are here to stay as they're highly reliable. Don't forget the current level of human technology and development wouldn't have been possible without fossil fuels.
@ArneBab
@ArneBab Жыл бұрын
@@paulheydarian1281 Fossil Fuels are reliable only in causing massive destruction worldwide. I don’t understand how you can still peddle fossil fuel while today half the European countries are devastated by raging wildfires and even the UK - that damp country of fog and eternal rain - gets fire problem.
@ahklys1321
@ahklys1321 Жыл бұрын
@@ArneBab yeah I remember in 90s was gonna be 30 years or whatever. If they achieve this, be well worth the wait. Your power bill might even go down a lil. That last bit was a joke.
@257shooter9
@257shooter9 Жыл бұрын
The last fusion lab I worked in was Helion Energy. Before that I worked at the Redmond Plasma Physics Lab, part of the University of Washington. It was nice to see some of my handiwork in a video.
@rayhans7887
@rayhans7887 Жыл бұрын
What is your opinion about fusion viability & commercialization? How long would that could take
@257shooter9
@257shooter9 Жыл бұрын
@@rayhans7887 I think if Helion’s approach works, then about 10 years. I am confident that Helion’s approach is the right way to go. I don’t think Tokamaks will ever work. I’ve been told that by guys that spent their careers working on Tokamaks.
@user-nf9xc7ww7m
@user-nf9xc7ww7m Жыл бұрын
Thank you for your contribution to the future. I do wonder if fusion really is clean though. I'd imagine instead of meltdown worries, we'd have gamma & x-ray worries.
@calicoesblue4703
@calicoesblue4703 Жыл бұрын
Nice
@Jezee213
@Jezee213 Жыл бұрын
so cool!
@DonLee1980
@DonLee1980 Жыл бұрын
There's a huge difference between finally getting to net gain, and being profitable and more viable than other energy sources. Fusion will cost a LOT for many years before we can scale it and master it.
@bucy1855
@bucy1855 Жыл бұрын
what costs more is failing to spend it on this!
@Skoda130
@Skoda130 Жыл бұрын
If ever.
@ishotuknok
@ishotuknok 4 ай бұрын
Its well worth the try I would be happy if germany would go big on this and spend 20 billion a year on this instead of spending 40 billian annually on lazy muslim migrants
@owenschmidt6166
@owenschmidt6166 3 ай бұрын
I think you’re right and I think fusion will be massive once it get’s to scale. Having net gain is definitely the first step to profitability.
@Forge17
@Forge17 Жыл бұрын
This video changed my perception of the private fusion industry. Even if it doesn’t get to net positive fusion first, or fulfill its promises on time; the diversity of zany strategies and ideas being cooked up could end up contributing in the future. No one car company can take credit for even half the major innovations in the past 100 years.
@Motorata661
@Motorata661 Жыл бұрын
I like the diference beteween Public and private, public its all about pushing the limits, making fusion longer, bigger, private is all about cutting cost, if you can´t make it long then make it repetition, instead of using steam use pistons or proyectiles. Is very different mentalities and they are necessary for things to advance
@Forge17
@Forge17 Жыл бұрын
@@Motorata661 yes I agree ☝️ plus private may bring in new minds that otherwise would not be working on Fusion. While Public will likely move in the most straightforward (not over promising) and publicly transparent fashion.
@ANSELAbitsxb
@ANSELAbitsxb Жыл бұрын
@@Forge17 mercedes
@drewmortenson
@drewmortenson Жыл бұрын
My thought exactly. They may not be the first to net+, but ideas such as the pulsing "engine" style fusion reactor, or the smaller fusion reactor could play a significant role if they end up being feasible.
@outbakjak
@outbakjak Жыл бұрын
...but consider that each of the companies that do not succeed first are likely to go bankrupt once one of the others do succeed and everyone jumps on that ship. Because of this, and because of how beneficial collaboration is in general, I think it would probably be better if all these companies weren't racing to make billions against each other, but all "fusing" (pun intended) into one organization made of separate teams working on different technologies
@nick_0
@nick_0 Жыл бұрын
Just props for how well this video was made, loved how you showcased all the different fusion startups from across the globe and their different methods of reaching net output. Thanks guys
@niko-laus
@niko-laus Жыл бұрын
and again geothermal is ignored even mm wave drilling is now available
@deaththekid3998
@deaththekid3998 Жыл бұрын
@@niko-laus it’s not “ignored”, it’s just not available everywhere. The nations who are lucky enough to have vulcanic activity should definitely use it, but we need a solution for all the others.
@moai123
@moai123 Жыл бұрын
@@niko-laus I looked into millimetre wave drilling and it has a few hurdles to go. Temperature and pressure, plus maintaining the waveguide are significant technical challenges, but I'm all for it.
@haloikan_
@haloikan_ Жыл бұрын
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@haloikan_
@haloikan_ Жыл бұрын
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@jeffmccrea9347
@jeffmccrea9347 Жыл бұрын
There used to be an old saying that goes: "Fusion power is only 30 years away and always will be." Plasma temperatures run at 100 MILLION degrees, NOT 100,000.
@peggyturner2431
@peggyturner2431 Жыл бұрын
I wonder what the best opportunities to invest now are, there are opinions but a little later I find out these opinions don't matter as a totally different turn of events play out with the stocks they discussed therein.
@anthonymilner1088
@anthonymilner1088 Жыл бұрын
stocks are overrated now. buy gold, 5% in crypto. rest in cash. and wait for the stock/ property/land price to crash. but them after it stops dropping for 7 - 12 months at the bottom.
@peggyturner2431
@peggyturner2431 Жыл бұрын
@Joseph Robert Romero the names rings a bell. she has a webb presence
@frogturtle
@frogturtle Жыл бұрын
Inspiring stuff. Godspeed to these hard-working people
@Dennzer1
@Dennzer1 Жыл бұрын
indeed.
@sitrakaforler8696
@sitrakaforler8696 Жыл бұрын
Yes ! It must be so exciting and frustrating at the same time to work on it and be so close yet so far away from a industrial product !
@lordwallie24
@lordwallie24 Жыл бұрын
Karma !
@martiddy
@martiddy Жыл бұрын
@@lordwallie24 Why karma?
@cheavichetraofficial1991
@cheavichetraofficial1991 Жыл бұрын
yes, they are the best stuff
@marzymarrz5172
@marzymarrz5172 Жыл бұрын
I admire the persistence of all the people and money involved in this venture. And I really appreciate them!
@thernly
@thernly Жыл бұрын
You admire the persistence of money?
@rinowx5
@rinowx5 Жыл бұрын
Yikes
@ToniDJohns
@ToniDJohns Жыл бұрын
Watched Particle Fever movie 10 years ago a couple times when it came out. This video is a blessing bringing updates to such wonderful developments. Thank you for sharing this.
@TheLKStar
@TheLKStar Жыл бұрын
Best documentary about fusion I've ever seen, great job.
@Nextkeyboard898_
@Nextkeyboard898_ Жыл бұрын
Love it, this kind of documentary are those who help inspire the next generation to step into the unknown, the future.
@MylesKeef
@MylesKeef Жыл бұрын
I hope I can help on a fusion project someday. This is a technology that could change the world as we know it in a profound and positive way.
@CHIROTHECA
@CHIROTHECA Жыл бұрын
You can make one yourself. no need for gargantuan billion dollar government science projects. Look into aneutronic fusion. Get a 3d printer, a vacuum pump and some household electronics.
@elosant2061
@elosant2061 Жыл бұрын
@@Vino3437 All our energy problems could have been solved by nuclear fission and is still our best working option at the moment.
@geemanbmw
@geemanbmw Жыл бұрын
@@elosant2061 agreed its much easier to split hydrogen atoms per say then to combine them.
@test_account939
@test_account939 Жыл бұрын
What kind of college majors would one need to pursue in order to work on fusion reactors?
@rayhans7887
@rayhans7887 Жыл бұрын
@@test_account939 physics/nuclear physic then specialization
@RobertSeetzen
@RobertSeetzen Жыл бұрын
Excellent. The best documentary on current fusion technology I've seen so far.
@cold-wolf
@cold-wolf Жыл бұрын
Today is Historic moment, it happened. It's finally a tangible source of power. 10 or 20 years from now we may have commercial fusion power.
@lowruna
@lowruna Жыл бұрын
and it will lead to a drastical reduction in power related conflicts
@talkingmudcrab718
@talkingmudcrab718 Жыл бұрын
That's the joke... it's always "20 years away." Has been for decades.
@Basieeee
@Basieeee Жыл бұрын
They said that 10 years ago, the latest breakthrough is just another prove of concept. They put 100x the energy recovered into this, and they could only do it once a day. For it to work we will need some crazy breakthroughs in laser technology so it (lasers) can generate 100x the energy and do it more directly then we need to be able to do it over and over again to make it commercially viable. Sadly.
@Basieeee
@Basieeee Жыл бұрын
@Tacolucious Source? Or just speculation?
@futbolita89742
@futbolita89742 Жыл бұрын
@@talkingmudcrab718 yea its just another fake news to get investors
@socially_apt
@socially_apt Жыл бұрын
This is the best chance we have approaching a problem from all directions
@patinsley
@patinsley Жыл бұрын
Is this a joke about those pressures pistons that surround the reactor? I like it
@RM-xl1ed
@RM-xl1ed Жыл бұрын
I'm 29 years old. Really hoping we get to widescale commercial fusion within my lifetime
@LTDANMAN44
@LTDANMAN44 Жыл бұрын
im 49 :( can i see it too?
@simabhaider7985
@simabhaider7985 Жыл бұрын
@@LTDANMAN44 I am 15🔥. I am best
@LTDANMAN44
@LTDANMAN44 Жыл бұрын
@@simabhaider7985 lucky
@chrisalex001
@chrisalex001 Жыл бұрын
We will sooner than you think. These will be the decades of breakthroughs
@Itsrichardash
@Itsrichardash Жыл бұрын
It only took 20 years go to from the nuclear bomb to nuclear power stations, so I would say it's safe to say that you will likely see it in your lifetime
@Juice-chan
@Juice-chan Жыл бұрын
great report. I am rooting for fusion since I was a little kid. And I hope to see it being out there in my lifetime. This is the kind of change humanity desperately needs if we want to advance any further. The energy problem needs to be solved. Just think about how the abundance in processing power and storage has transformed the world. Having an abundance of energy would be many tenfolds of that magnitude.
@spammerscammer
@spammerscammer Жыл бұрын
It's only 10 years out. 😆
@peceed
@peceed Жыл бұрын
We have Sun - the biggest thermonuclear reactor. Floating photo-voltaic batteries on oceans are the solution. We need around 1 mln km2 for our needs.
@matthewbrightman3398
@matthewbrightman3398 Жыл бұрын
@@peceed I hope you are correct.
@tinyrick6264
@tinyrick6264 Жыл бұрын
I’ve been rooting for it too. I learned when I was 10. I’m 60. They said it would take 50 years. I’m still waiting for flying cars.
@budgetking2591
@budgetking2591 Жыл бұрын
@@tinyrick6264 capitalism slowed it all down
@jimstanga6390
@jimstanga6390 Жыл бұрын
The running joke is “Fusion is the Energy of the Future…and always will be…”
@sd_pjwal
@sd_pjwal Жыл бұрын
"The time scale of 20 years is really realistic." LOL, sounds like my software engineers giving a time line which I automatically triple.
@chad872
@chad872 Жыл бұрын
Scientists, real life superheroes. Ya'll are the best of us.
@Dennzer1
@Dennzer1 Жыл бұрын
true
@Martin-117
@Martin-117 Жыл бұрын
...And the worst.
@aetheriox463
@aetheriox463 Жыл бұрын
@@Martin-117 you say that as if most scientists are bad
@lukebalderose334
@lukebalderose334 Жыл бұрын
@@aetheriox463 he's a trump supporter so it's no surprise he said that
@aetheriox463
@aetheriox463 Жыл бұрын
@@lukebalderose334 how do you know?
@SouthAfricanCannabisExtraction
@SouthAfricanCannabisExtraction Жыл бұрын
Fantastic to see the energy being put into this research (no pun intended) 👍🔥
@robfer5370
@robfer5370 Жыл бұрын
Yep so much so that even if they do the impossible and get it to work consistently, it will never be able to make more power then it uses, cos of a pesky little thing called thermodynamics. It is the definition of a non-starter. Just think what all that time, money and resources could of done for nuclear fission...
@nullbeyondo
@nullbeyondo Жыл бұрын
You sir are a liar. (honesty intended)
@theultimatereductionist7592
@theultimatereductionist7592 Жыл бұрын
21:32 YES! THANK you for the plug for Climeworks!
@PastaSenpai
@PastaSenpai Жыл бұрын
Well now it looks like ITER won't be the first fusion reactor to reach net gain. In California, they achieved net gain just months after this video.
@usneome
@usneome Жыл бұрын
You fell for the propaganda from the Livermore team. They reported increased plasma efficiency (Qplasma) but the total efficiency (Qtotal) is still abysmal. The input energy to laser beams used in the experiment was 300 MJ, only 2 MJ made it to the fusion fuel target and fusion reaction created 3MJ output (heat energy). They only quoted the Qplasma = 3 / 2 ratio achieved in the experiment. Qtotal = 3 x 40% / 300 = 0.01 (even this is generous because 3MJ output heat needs to be converted to the electrical energy and I generously assigned the 40% efficiency here assuming that it is possible to extract the heat energy from this device and then use it to create steam and power steam turbine.
@phenax1144
@phenax1144 Жыл бұрын
@@usneome to be fair Q total for iter wont be over 1 either but much better than lasers
@SaiRyan1
@SaiRyan1 Жыл бұрын
@@usneome I've seen this exact same reply in other videos. What benefit do these people have from downplaying a very important breakthrough?
@usneome
@usneome Жыл бұрын
@@SaiRyan1 Honest reporting is needed. Since national labs are using billions of USD for research, they should report their progress without hype. Current administration in Washington should not manipulate facts to play politics. ITER project promised Qplasma = 10; this is six times as much as Qplasma for laser fusion project.
@SaiRyan1
@SaiRyan1 Жыл бұрын
@@usneome there is nothing dishonest about what they have done, they got more energy out of the reaction then put into the reaction which has not been done before. You don't understand what the problem was nor understand what has happened. The problem they were solving wasnt efficiency, it was can it even be done. Can the reaction create more energy then it took to create the reaction. How much energy it took to start the reaction is irrelevant
@zuggrr
@zuggrr Жыл бұрын
0:10 the joke is: "nuclear fusion is 30 years away and always will be". (to spare you the google search)
@sonamdargeybhutia4648
@sonamdargeybhutia4648 Жыл бұрын
I loved it's idea of excluding Turbines and steams as to cut down cost and prevent undermining efficiency Simply to the point period.
@keep-ukraine-free528
@keep-ukraine-free528 Жыл бұрын
It's also the least pragmatic, because they're claiming "net zero" in 2 years. Nearly every real scientist sees their 2-yr claim as hucksterism. They do it to target non-scientific (naive) investors, such as Peter Thiel. Many of these CEOs "talk a big game," but to scientists they sound like children playing with big words they don't understand. The business world is full of the "who can you fool" model. Helion Energy's wish to directly transfer vast amounts of electrons (i.e. immense currents - which create heat) from super-hot plasma's into room-temperature electrical wires requires other "alchemy" that they skipped in the video - because it's too difficult to do. They need to have the fusion reactor-vessel (at 100+ million degrees C) be very close/adjacent to superconducting wires (at near-absolute-zero) to "pull away" the very high-current electricity. How do you have one space at 10^8 degrees, and next to it space at 10^-2 degrees (10 orders of magnitude difference in temperature = 10 billion degrees Celsius separated by 3 feet). Such a large temperature gradient will destroy (at a minimum, will quickly erode) the wires & equipment itself. They conveniently "ignored" this real problem (and other serious problems). Much of silicon valley "talks big" but doesn't delivery. You never hear about the 1000s of companies that vanish.
@kieranlancaster1910
@kieranlancaster1910 Жыл бұрын
Yeah I’d never heard of that method before and if they can get it to work, it makes a lot of sense
@rizkymumtaza
@rizkymumtaza Жыл бұрын
I personally doubt the idea. In my opinion, Helion's "electromagnetic harvesting" would work like inductive coupling, and it's a really inefficient power transmission
@librasd8087
@librasd8087 Жыл бұрын
however it must be said that the Rankine-Hirn cycle is something that has existed for more than a century and is reliable and known, adding other innovations to a project that already has tight deadlines in the field of fusion (a field still in the experimental phase) would mean increasing further the risk of failure of the entire project
@MrZoomZone
@MrZoomZone Жыл бұрын
yeah, harness the EMP inductively. Only needs to be 30% efficient to beat the best heat to steam turbine efficiencies.
@philipcooper1636
@philipcooper1636 Жыл бұрын
The best way to find growth stocks, key features to keep in mind is as follows: 1. Ensure gross margins are greater than 50% 2. Ensure P/E ratio is less than 100 3. Buy companies that are PROFITABLE, very important irrespective of sector. 4. Debt to equity ratio is less than 30% 5. Current ratio is above 1 6. and a Float under 100 million One stock that fits the bill is FLGT (Fulgent)
@The_Blue_Wolf
@The_Blue_Wolf Жыл бұрын
Ever since I heard of ITER its been a dream of mine to help with the project. Thank you for talking about this wonderful project and bringing it to the attention of so many more people.
@real_andrii
@real_andrii Жыл бұрын
0:15 "nuclear fusion is always fifty years away". Took me 7 words to deliver the joke. That guy's gift of overcomplicating things is next level.
@DriedRoast
@DriedRoast Жыл бұрын
The quality of these short documentaries is stellar.
@DerekMartell
@DerekMartell Жыл бұрын
Those two ending statements have me so so sold on working on it too. Pre-industrial atmosphere? A utopia for our kids? jesus christs lets go.
@SuperCortes10
@SuperCortes10 Жыл бұрын
I work in industrial maintenance & I would love to work on these and build them this seems so interesting!
@business
@business Жыл бұрын
We're introducing a new Quicktake series: *Power Moves* - an in-depth look into the cutting-edge tech that could revolutionize how we power our modern lives. What do you think about fusion technology? Let us know in the comments!
@josidasilva5515
@josidasilva5515 Жыл бұрын
Try hydrogen, and instead of electrolization, ionizating atomized H2O with high voltage and PWM, just like what happens in a thunderstorm in the clouds (that explosion is not caused by hot air...).
@johannes7434
@johannes7434 Жыл бұрын
Love this series and your mini-documentaries. Keep it up!
@ajaxgrac6547
@ajaxgrac6547 Жыл бұрын
Yes make the new series available on U-tube and podcasts
@therealb888
@therealb888 Жыл бұрын
These series have huge international viewership potential, release the full series on youtube
@calicoesblue4703
@calicoesblue4703 Жыл бұрын
This Video was amazingly well done. 😎🥂
@mohammedalam5640
@mohammedalam5640 Жыл бұрын
One of the best documentaries I've seen in a long time
@currentxchange
@currentxchange Жыл бұрын
I had no idea there were so many different approaches. Fascinating stuff.
@theultimatereductionist7592
@theultimatereductionist7592 Жыл бұрын
20:12 Thank you. THIS is the point that outweighs all other points.
@ocavant
@ocavant Жыл бұрын
Every resource on the planet needs to be focused on this problem. It quite literally is humanity's only savior. Let's get busy people.
@trevorleake2010
@trevorleake2010 Жыл бұрын
Scientists say it'll take decades, but business owners currently accepting investment capital say "It's right around the corner!" Exactly the level of journalism I expect from Bloomberg. Woof.
@pirojfmifhghek566
@pirojfmifhghek566 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, it's Bloomberg. They're not in this for the science. All they want to do is take advantage of riling up investors and getting people to throw their money around. Still, the sentiment seems positive overall. I just wonder which one the producers placed all their casino chips on. One always has to look at financial media with a healthy dose of skepticism. Not the science part, just the message and the purpose behind it.
@9Joel9
@9Joel9 Жыл бұрын
Amazing video! Thank you, very informative and very entertaining!
@constantinvasiliev2065
@constantinvasiliev2065 Жыл бұрын
Thank you. A great source of information
@alexandermarsteller7848
@alexandermarsteller7848 Жыл бұрын
Something that wasn't talked about: The fuel. Short version: the technical challenge with fusion is not only the getting the plasma hot enough part efficiently enough Long versione: The lowest temperature fusion reaction we can do is deuterium (D) + tritium (T) to helium and a neutron. All other reactions require factors more of temperature/particle energy. Deuterium you can get from water (although it only makes up ~0.02% of the hydrogen in natural water). Tritium is radioactive and has a short half-life, so every bit of tritium on earth was generated by humans, either through atom bombs or nuclear reactors or accelerators. You can use the neutron that comes out of the D-T fusion to do another nuclear reaction with lithium that produces one tritium atom and a helium atom. But the technologies surrounding the entire process of recovering that tritium are not completely solved either.
@Withnail1969
@Withnail1969 Жыл бұрын
The whole thing is a non starter. Even if the reaction itself produced overall net energy which so far isn't even close, the fuel would be far too expensive and energy intensive to supply. 60 years of research and we've got nowhere.
@zazethe6553
@zazethe6553 Жыл бұрын
what is the reason, they cannot fuse regular hydrogen?
@AndDiracisHisProphet
@AndDiracisHisProphet Жыл бұрын
@@zazethe6553 The reactions for regular hydrogen only happen at much higher temperatures/pressures
@danielstory2761
@danielstory2761 Жыл бұрын
@@zazethe6553 regular hydrogen does not have neutrons, it is 1 proton and 1 electron. Deuterium also has one neutron, while Tritium has two
@dangeary2134
@dangeary2134 Жыл бұрын
Lower the goalposts and shoot for synthesis of helium. There is a dwindling supply of that, and maybe you’ll run into some bigger fusion breakthroughs later.
@JigilJigil
@JigilJigil Жыл бұрын
Great video, but there are a bunch of key startups with promising technology that should have been included for example MIT spinoff Commonwealth Fusion Systems with over 2 billion in funding, TAE Technologies , Zap Energy ...
@bob456fk6
@bob456fk6 Жыл бұрын
It's great to see different groups working on this project. The final answer may be something that no one has imagined yet. 🙂 We're waiting for the "eureka moment".
@flaviutzax
@flaviutzax Жыл бұрын
nice 😀I have mine built by a friend (a scientinst that study this for over 15 years) and since I use it I feel marvellous. Plus I got rid of a fibroid and now I start to reset my consciosness🥰he doesn't sell them commercially so his interests are purely scientific. When it's about multiwave oscillators he knows the subject in and out. In the last 90 years since Lakhovski invented his machine technology advanced and now the machine can be build with higher precision and way more efficient than back in the 1900s. There are few other things that my friend added to the machine that for me work WOW.
@alexcave7573
@alexcave7573 Жыл бұрын
I often think of Thomas Edison's quote on subjects like this "I have not failed. I've just found 10,000 ways that won't work." Hopefully there will be a similar scientist/s who makes the key breathrough in this complex fusion puzzle soon.
@VeritasPraevalebit
@VeritasPraevalebit Жыл бұрын
A fusion reactor uses deuterium and tritium for fuel. Deuterium can be extracted from water but tritium is radioactive and must be synthesized and it must be made in the actual reactor. Since the reactor consumes the same number of deuterium as tritium atoms it is far from evident that enough tritium to keep the reactor running can be produced. That is only one of the many hurdles that the the fusion startups will have to overcome. One of the companies that are presented in the video is General Fusion. I have followed their winding path from their start in 2002 and I have come to the conclusion that the method they propose to compress the liquid lithium cannot possibly work. They claim that it does, but to the best of my knowledge they have not presented any proof to support the claim. Please enlighten me if I am wrong.
@julesguedry2466
@julesguedry2466 Жыл бұрын
I was curious what companies were ranking in the billions aforementioned.
@vernonbrechin4207
@vernonbrechin4207 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for your critique. It is true that little research has gone into the production of the radioactive tritium to generate enough to fuel the reactor and produce a cost-effective generation of electrical power at the same time. The following critique of the ITER mentions this rarely presented problem. ITER is a showcase … for the drawbacks of fusion energy (The Bulletin of Atomic Scientists)
@core3673
@core3673 Жыл бұрын
The inventor of the Television , Philo T. Farnsworth, went on to develop a room sized fusion reactor that used specially designed vacuum tubes for the project. I T & T controlled the Farnsworth patents and refused to allow Farnsworth to proceed any further with the project.
@vernonbrechin4207
@vernonbrechin4207 Жыл бұрын
Whenever readers come across an article regarding a fusion energy 'breakthrough' in the goal to achieve fusion energy ask yourself was their any evidence that any, or a significant amount of fusion reactions were detected. In the vast majority of cases the claimed 'breakthrough' experiments involve no DT fusion fuel and so no fusion reactions were detected. Most are simply experiments that compress normal hydrogen isotope nuclei (protons) so there is no way any significant amount of fusion reactions will occur. The announcements are often intended to attract investor, or government funds for further research. The write-ups are often misleading fluff to attract interest.
@user-cd6vy2jg6f
@user-cd6vy2jg6f Жыл бұрын
@@core3673 you truly believe he invented a room sized fusion reactor from vacuum tubes… our species is doomed
@WorldCollections
@WorldCollections Жыл бұрын
Physics breakthroughs always have impact in chemistry research, which then impacts biology and medicine research. We’ve been waiting for this and it’s finally here!
@bettyjaneantanavicius9800
@bettyjaneantanavicius9800 22 күн бұрын
So are thorium fission reactors...
@kadadriancottman9097
@kadadriancottman9097 Жыл бұрын
4 months ago, they thought it would take 20 years. Anything’s possible.
@MoosesValley
@MoosesValley Жыл бұрын
Progress is definitely being made. Very exciting times. Am particularly impressed by the "direct to electricity" technology. My bet is a private company will generate Net Energy first. I sure hope they find multiple pathways to generating Net Energy.
@denzali
@denzali Жыл бұрын
Money runs the world, new world ownership will be for those daring enough to invest in a power source of this kind. 📞hi, it’s Jeff Bezos..”
@vapenshred
@vapenshred Жыл бұрын
@@denzali Who cares Elon Musk is on line 2 make Bezos endure the music.
@deadralynx1288
@deadralynx1288 Жыл бұрын
The problem is that we are not yet desperate enough to have to rely on those startups. Even if they progress beyond what is considered net plus, they will be bought up or stifled until they are gone, just to hold up fossil fuels. We are the lazy composers of our own downfall.
@neferiusnexus
@neferiusnexus Жыл бұрын
@@deadralynx1288 yes we are, but the people in charge of building it realise it's not feasible at relatively small scales (compared to the mass of the sun). But they're stuck because they based their entire careers on it. If they release something with a Net Gain that's really small, it'll be commercially viable, sure, but it'll be a ticking ecological time bomb, producing billions of tonnes of radioactive isotopes from valuable, life-giving water.
@neferiusnexus
@neferiusnexus Жыл бұрын
@@denzali money is just a completely virtual number we assign to actual resources. It can't bend the laws of physics.
@adamsmith6843
@adamsmith6843 Жыл бұрын
This is so awesome! I’ve been following fusion progress for longer then I can remember. It seems like we’re so close to this amazing breakthrough. I really wish i was in some way apart of this amazing science. Nevertheless I’m still very proud of the individuals that are.
@theTranscendentOnes
@theTranscendentOnes Жыл бұрын
@Whgu ybnm you can help by pitching in money.
@pablo-cw1wg
@pablo-cw1wg Жыл бұрын
Research has been going longer than 50 years with no viable reactor to this date
@theTranscendentOnes
@theTranscendentOnes Жыл бұрын
@@pablo-cw1wg And? The important part is that we're making a lot of progress. Predictions about when it will actually be commercially available are less significant.
@averageuncle8176
@averageuncle8176 Жыл бұрын
Just as we cannot perfectly replicate the same conditions as on earth during space flights, we are also not yet able to replicate the sun on earth. But I believe it will be possible in a few thousand years.
@oleksijm
@oleksijm Жыл бұрын
"Fusion energy is just 30 years away.. and always will be."
@robonick3607
@robonick3607 Жыл бұрын
It was not the private sector that got this discovery! It wasn’t Oxford either! Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory in California nabbed the power of the sun!
@elmarmoelzer2229
@elmarmoelzer2229 Жыл бұрын
Well, NIF is still quite a ways off from a practical power plant in every aspect. The lasers only have a 0.3% efficiency and that was not factored in.
@usneome
@usneome Жыл бұрын
@@elmarmoelzer2229 You are raining on their parade. Plasma efficiency (Qplasma) factor bigger than 1.0 is a small step forward. However, we are still far away from achieving overall efficiency (Qtotal) bigger than 1.0
@jukio02
@jukio02 Жыл бұрын
Man, I love science and engineering. So passionate about it. Projects such as these gives me so much joy in life.
@MrGhostdog7777
@MrGhostdog7777 Жыл бұрын
Living in a country dominated by murdoch media, I nearly forgot how informative balanced journalism can be, thanks folks!
@HaggardPillockHD
@HaggardPillockHD Жыл бұрын
I'm assuming you're also from the UK. Horizons on BBC2 do similar documentaries
@SpencerHHO
@SpencerHHO Жыл бұрын
@@HaggardPillockHD or Australia
@General12th
@General12th Жыл бұрын
or anywhere, really. News stations have every reason to be biased and manipulative. The only thing they want is your money.
@ArneBab
@ArneBab Жыл бұрын
@@General12th says someone on KZbin that wants your money by proxy of third party propaganda (advertisements).
@MrGhostdog7777
@MrGhostdog7777 Жыл бұрын
@@HaggardPillockHD No Australia, we have it even worse then the UK or America. Rupert owns 70 percent of the news media here.
@alakazamthisisasham
@alakazamthisisasham Жыл бұрын
Department of Energy pulled off net positive before the private sector. that's crazy. very cool video though, hope everyone keeps at it
@elmarmoelzer2229
@elmarmoelzer2229 Жыл бұрын
I guess it depends on how you define "net positive".
@TheDd2402
@TheDd2402 Жыл бұрын
Those last possibilities are just mind blowing
@brianwild4640
@brianwild4640 Жыл бұрын
Never seen a single time that they quoted total power in electricity and total power they would get out in electricity. Hope they do it but I don’t see it for 50-60 years. The net gain they will quote will be in energy in and energy made not that the energy out when turned to electricity will be 40% of the energy made as heat even for ITER
@carrickrichards2457
@carrickrichards2457 Жыл бұрын
Yeah. There is a danger with misleading expectations: Other mitigation strategies maybe neglected on the grounds this is the answer worth waiting for; loss of credibilty may even affect core funding.
@jajajinks1569
@jajajinks1569 Жыл бұрын
Yeah when the dude said one of those "projectiles" in his fusion reactor creates enough power to last one household 2 years, and that they can fire one every 30 seconds... I felt like that was insanely low. And those are projections that he HOPES for. Not to mention they're still barely in the testing phases, so he hasn't even built one yet. No shade and we should explore all possibilities, but we really need to be putting more focus on things that we already know work - nuclear.
@therealb888
@therealb888 Жыл бұрын
Yup that's the real question. One of the first thoughts that came to mind. Not only is the energy output questionable, the entire issue of conversion efficiency makes it a tough case for practical use. We need a better energy conversion technology.
@brianwild4640
@brianwild4640 Жыл бұрын
@@jajajinks1569 yes nuclear especially MSR. The power out maybe enough for 2 years but he did not mention he power in it took or that when he tried to convert the power to electricity he would only have 30-40% of that power. In uk he would need to fire one of those pellets every second to get the power for everyone and convert them at 100%. Plus store the power at off peak and deliver at peak can they even make 1 of these pellets per second probably took them ages to make the pellet
@calicoesblue4703
@calicoesblue4703 Жыл бұрын
@@jajajinks1569 Dude you don't understand. Nuclear Power is destroying our planet. Cossing global warming & with that comes massive weather changes, massive earthquakes, killer heat waves, our earths outer blue sphere that protects mankind from burning to death from the sun is deteriorating because of fossil fuel use.
@qownson4410
@qownson4410 Жыл бұрын
General Fusion and Helion Energy both have complimentary ideas and technologies. If they're gonna inductively recapture energy by careful design of their apparatus, that could be applied to General Fusion's reactor chamber, granted Helion's approach is more linear, whilst General Fusion's is more radial, but I digress.
@darinhitchings7104
@darinhitchings7104 Жыл бұрын
clever comment, nice
@richardmulinix8692
@richardmulinix8692 Жыл бұрын
Would magnetic movement of pulse around the coils by lowering power in multiple coils spaced out evenly or even circular movement of the coils physically help make it work?
@TogoVatiua03
@TogoVatiua03 Жыл бұрын
Excellent, the best documentary
@tomhoward1996
@tomhoward1996 Жыл бұрын
In 2006 MIT President Hochfield visited my alumni club in Dallas. After a great presentation she asked for questions. I said "In 1971 I worked on a problem set for a fusion reactor containment vessel. It's been 35 years, so where are they?" She replied that the head of the Nuclear Engineering Department had told her "Thirty five years, but this time we mean it". It's been 16 more years Where are they? Some of this seems promising, but I want to see something before I hit 100.
@CraftyF0X
@CraftyF0X Жыл бұрын
As far as I know it is still a problem not completelly solved. Many may not realise, but fusion can be this first peculiar form of power production, where the fuel is not the real significant consumable, but the structural, and sacrificial materials of the reactor device itself.
@kreek22
@kreek22 Жыл бұрын
What if tech originally developed for fusion were transferable to another energy project adequate to solve the GHG problem? Gyrotrons are the key tech for a geothermal energy startup called Quaise Energy. They use the gyrotron to vaporize basement rock, cutting borehole costs by an order of magnitude whilst vitrifying the sides of the hole and stabilizing it against the impending pressure. Their system also builds on oil industry expertise in pipes, geology, pumps, etc. As to fusion itself: it looks still a distant prospect, but at least we're throwing more darts at the board with slightly better aim.
@vilefly
@vilefly Жыл бұрын
I don't believe the Tokamak type reactor has much promise. With neutrons constantly bombarding its innards, making it internally radioactive, and causing structural decay, I have a problem with this. Clean thermal fusion in a Tokamak simply isn't so. The Quaise Energy concept is much cleaner, as mentioned by kreek22, but could destabilize plate tectonics if improperly used. The bullet approach to aneutronic fusion looks more promising. Keeping the flow in one direction is much easier than trying to contain a neutron bomb completely. Basically, an aneutronic fusion rocket strapped to an MHD generator.
@bersig
@bersig Жыл бұрын
Meanwhile stuff like molten salt fission breeders get nothing. Worked in the 60s, far cheaper, safer than current commercial (solid-fuel/water-cooled) designs, and have most if not all of the benefits claimed for fusion. Hybrid fission/fusion designs might even help get fusion here faster. I'm not anti-fusion, just pro common sense.
@ranjithpowell6791
@ranjithpowell6791 Жыл бұрын
It’s because we waste money on submarines not hospitals and fusion
@TimeManInJail
@TimeManInJail Жыл бұрын
Management - I need you to give birth in 1 months instead of 9, here's 8 engineers. Very typical of the private industry, funny enough there's was an experiment regarding productivity and rewards, it scale up when the task is mostly labor intensive but when incentives increase to complex task you don't see the same.
@keep-ukraine-free528
@keep-ukraine-free528 Жыл бұрын
A lot of private/silicon valley bravado is a joke. If you consider the total amount of money used in private industry/silicon valley - versus what we get out (a few companies successful, but 1000s that failed)... it's not so efficient. Millions of investors lose big money on so many so-called "startups".
@murdelabop
@murdelabop Жыл бұрын
The mythical man month: 728 guys trying to get it done by lunch.
@JuteTwine
@JuteTwine Жыл бұрын
19:30 Fusion is always just 20 years away. LOL.
@AdeptusIncompetus
@AdeptusIncompetus Жыл бұрын
"No, we're gonna make it a little bit worse, but get it done a year earlier" isn't exactly a statement I find comforting.
@elmarmoelzer2229
@elmarmoelzer2229 Жыл бұрын
They mean less powerful (the next machine is still only an experiment). They want to get to a stage where they can test it sooner, then refine and build the next bigger machine. Fast iteration is helpful. If you go slow, you get ITER (and the stigma of "forever 30 years away").
@williamgrimberg2510
@williamgrimberg2510 Жыл бұрын
Fusion would be great . But in the meantime , why aren’t we going with walk away safe environmentally friendly long proven Thorium molten salt reactors that doesn’t need to be by a body of water and can built almost any where ? China is pushing hard to have these plants and is almost past the pilot plant stage and since thorium is very abundant it makes for long lasting cheap clean energy.
@miquelmarti6537
@miquelmarti6537 Жыл бұрын
you calling clean to radioactive waste? Interesting You don't need to wait for some decades until that chinese lab shows some results, for then to be adopted by your country, and then a plant to be built near your region. Wake up, solar is already here.
@aoeu256
@aoeu256 Жыл бұрын
Thorium fission can be used to power nuclear fusion as well like in a hydrogen bomb so you get more energy yield per thorium.
@6Sparx9
@6Sparx9 Жыл бұрын
@@aoeu256 And we may be able to separate Thorium from seawater, then breed it into Uranium in a reactor. Upcycling is the new recycling
@viktorianas
@viktorianas Жыл бұрын
Long term vision: "mining asteroids" Germany currently: using coal and going back to burning wood.
@Captain-Sum.Ting-Wong
@Captain-Sum.Ting-Wong Жыл бұрын
That's the end result of rabid environmentalism.
@botboy0
@botboy0 Жыл бұрын
@@Captain-Sum.Ting-Wong thats basically due to people being so patriotic that they refuse to put a wind turbine anywhere close to where people live
@TROJANP
@TROJANP Жыл бұрын
When I saw the concept of fusion power many many many many moon ago , my heart knew it will become reality one day and my heart still beats in that same game , we are humans we are magnificent
@cocoabloodsugardogs702
@cocoabloodsugardogs702 Жыл бұрын
Net-zero is ambitious, but it's exciting to see this coming online! My mom will be so excited!
@thsxi
@thsxi Жыл бұрын
Fusion is a technology 30 years away, and has been for 50 years
@austeyen5628
@austeyen5628 Жыл бұрын
its 30 years away until its not!
@thsxi
@thsxi Жыл бұрын
@@austeyen5628 you’re right, the breakthrough could happen tomorrow but today it’s still 30 years away
@edwardgongsky8540
@edwardgongsky8540 Жыл бұрын
@@thsxi nt with that attitudue!
@austeyen5628
@austeyen5628 Жыл бұрын
@@thsxi yeah i meant even with many wrong guesses, 30 years will be an accurate guess EVENTUALLY
@thsxi
@thsxi Жыл бұрын
@@austeyen5628 eventually, but we won’t know when that eventually is, we’ll be right but we won’t know it until 30 years later it’s done and then we track back, but until it is done, it’s still ‘30 years away’, even if it’s 1 day away
@jonny555ive
@jonny555ive Жыл бұрын
What an amazing documentary. You guys nailed it. Great explanation of a complex system to the layman level. Thank you. You have earned a new subscriber 👍👍
@user-xq7ri1rk7m
@user-xq7ri1rk7m 3 ай бұрын
Great video thanks 😊
@billpugh58
@billpugh58 Жыл бұрын
I’ve been expecting fusion every 20 years, it never quite seems to be there:)
@WielkiKaleson
@WielkiKaleson Жыл бұрын
I like Tokamak Energy in that they quickly jumped to build magnetic coils from now-available high-temperature-superconductor wires. A lot in fusion scales very favourably (and strongly) with increasing magnetic field, so cheap, strong magnets are key to business.
@darinhitchings7104
@darinhitchings7104 Жыл бұрын
yes exactly, that's what I'm on about... it's all in the materials science
@tusharbhudia9421
@tusharbhudia9421 Жыл бұрын
They don't use superconductors, it's literally just copper, that's all that's been needed and that's all they think they will need
@WielkiKaleson
@WielkiKaleson Жыл бұрын
@@tusharbhudia9421 Liquid nitrogen-cooled copper in ST40. But I wouldn't be categoric when discussing future needs. Hard to believe they really are...
@SpikeyTech
@SpikeyTech Жыл бұрын
I'm hopeful for fusion, and also hope that the public can be swayed to use nuclear fission in the meantime while we wait
@gregorymalchuk272
@gregorymalchuk272 Жыл бұрын
We have 65 trillion tons of uranium and 195 tons of thorium in the earth's crust. We shouldn't be waiting for nuclear fusion to have total energy abundance.
@furanduron4926
@furanduron4926 Жыл бұрын
Germany: Imma pretend that I didn't hear that.
@Nikkska
@Nikkska Жыл бұрын
Fission is very expensive compared to most renewables, with the costs of renewables projected to continue falling. We should always have a diversified power grid but I don’t think fission is a worthy investment at the moment
@gregorymalchuk272
@gregorymalchuk272 Жыл бұрын
@@Nikkska The cost of renewables+backup is astronomical and is why it isn't being adopted to power whole grids.
@aetheriox463
@aetheriox463 Жыл бұрын
@@Nikkska fission is expensive yes, but its literally the safest energy production we have, besides maybe solar. once the reactor is built that is
@jeromeelston1092
@jeromeelston1092 Жыл бұрын
Thank you enlighten the world.
@weisseadler
@weisseadler Жыл бұрын
Thank You!
@colinnewton5254
@colinnewton5254 Жыл бұрын
In 1992 I heard a lecture on fusion technology. The lecturer had been researching fusion technology for twenty years and prophesied that it would be producing all the electricity the world would need within twenty years. It is now 2022, 40 years on and they are still quoting availability in twenty years time.
@bhatkat
@bhatkat Жыл бұрын
Yeah, one does wonder, sure getting skeptical about Tokamaks, think we need a radical breakthrough to have anything economically viable.
@tvtothepoint
@tvtothepoint Жыл бұрын
Monorail. As long as capitalism is the driving force behind such projects, they are all doomed to fail. "They" will not allow any new energy source to supplant the old one until the old one has been completely tapped out. Until then, all we will get is teasers and more esoteric calls for a brighter future. P.S. Nuclear (thorium) works, but they don't want to be financially responsible for the mess they've already created with their boiling water reactors.
@richardhauer8391
@richardhauer8391 Жыл бұрын
@@bhatkat But if you actually look at what these alternatives are, it is very easy to see how utterly absurd these are. Lets assume for a moment that we can achieve fusion with initial confinement with both the liquid Metall idea and the laser heating idea, in the sense that the fusion energy divided by input energy is >1. Than what? You still need way more energy to power the lasers than what their output is to slightly warm up the chamber. How is that useful? A usual fission Reaktor evaporates enormes amounts of water, high temperatures and high energy output for a rather small machine. That is what makes it cost effective.
@Mike.Muc.3.1415
@Mike.Muc.3.1415 Жыл бұрын
Fusion is needed for military and space applications, not necessarily for civilian purposes. Smart grids, integrating solar, wind, geothermal and water are all readily available on a large scale and offer significantly lower per kw/h prices that fusion or fission plants, while fusion has been "only 20 years away" for over five decades. There isn't a single private insurer on the planet willing to cover the risks for even the most modern fission plants.
@solarwind907
@solarwind907 Жыл бұрын
You’re right but the oil companies and the politicians they control will not let renewable energy happen at full scale. Maybe in the not too distant future? We can hope :-)
@darinhitchings7104
@darinhitchings7104 Жыл бұрын
I agree with most of that... but it makes no sense to mix the risks of fission plants with those of fusion plants. One reaction is endothermic, one is exothermic... Also, as much as I love all things renewable energy, it's true that the materials are in very short supply. And furthermore, the projection is that energy demand in 2050 will be 5x what it was in 2020. Therefore... basically people believe the rest of the world can't come up to a European (let alone American) standard of living without ... some kind of magical energy source such as fusion. The by-products of mining chromium and the like for batteries etc are not nice, either. Then again, the battery tech is advancing in 50 direction extremely rapidly. But still, long story short, I think we need a major breakthrough. We're only 30% or so renewable energy powered in the US and far less so in less developed countries. And lastly, it's not just about CO2 emissions. There are 100 other strategic resource constraints that must be obeyed in order to develop modern technology to support a power grid. So that imposes a contraint on how low-power and distributed the grid can get. The 'working set size' for this particular optimization problem would be better served, ideally, by fewer plants that produce far more energy than a wind turbine or solar grid. That said, solar grids can produce 20% of 1.2 GW/km^2, which is about the energy density of fission plants I believe. Fusion I think is at least 10x more energy dense than fission, btw.
@AlanMedina314
@AlanMedina314 Жыл бұрын
I hope we come up with a valid approach to sustained fusion. Imagine a world with cheap energy and no more fossil fuels. The approach that I liked is the direct energy transfer rather than going to steam as most other methods mentioned here.
@kartoffelbrei8090
@kartoffelbrei8090 Жыл бұрын
You could make a windmill move to drive the generators, but as long as it doesnt output more than it is useless to think abt transport efficiency.
@jasonking6892
@jasonking6892 14 күн бұрын
Very interesting 👍🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿
@socaliguy81
@socaliguy81 Жыл бұрын
These companies better make sure that they keep security at the highest levels. Sabotage from within by bad actors funded secretly by big oil, seems to be a major concern given how quickly the oil/gas industries would fold once sustainable fusion is developed.
@MatjesHunts
@MatjesHunts Жыл бұрын
The oil and gas industry is already folding because of the rise of renewable energies (luckily). Fusion is too late for the party. The question is whether fusion energy will ultimately be cheaper than wind power, in which case the wind power industry might be rather short lived.
@ShimejiiGaming
@ShimejiiGaming Жыл бұрын
@@MatjesHunts Wind power will never go away unless the wind goes away. Most people would LOVE to just buy a wind turbine and run their house off it and a battery, and maybe some solar panels. The cost is still too high as an individual, but if you aggregate the cost across those whom would be willing like a town of 10,000-50,000 a few wind turbines make a TON of sense in the right areas.
@WhiteWolfos
@WhiteWolfos Жыл бұрын
@@ShimejiiGaming in some parts it's even illegal to set up your own mini turbine to collect energy. It's nuts.
@WhiteWolfos
@WhiteWolfos Жыл бұрын
@@MatjesHunts they still have a strong point with global industry. Still, they will be riding this for as long as possible. Many are already dipping their toes into electrical sources and water sources.
@peredavi
@peredavi Жыл бұрын
@@MatjesHunts Do you have any idea how much fossil fuel goes into mKing a wind turbine project? Steel, cement, composites for blades., machinery building roads and offshore foundations?
@Nainara32
@Nainara32 Жыл бұрын
A better investment for this capital would be to research construction of safer and cheaper fission reactors and spent fuel reprocessing. Fusion is a money pit that may never be commercially viable.
@ahabkapitany
@ahabkapitany Жыл бұрын
we don't really have any other bets apart from nuclear
@skierpage
@skierpage Жыл бұрын
Plenty of money is going into next generation small liquid sodium molten thorium pebble modular blahblah fission startups: NuScale, Terrapower, that Rolls Royce thing, ... They're closer to viability than fusion, which means they're facing the reality that wind and solar are and will be much cheaper than the first few units they build.
@spencervance8484
@spencervance8484 Жыл бұрын
Just want to throw this out. Fusion makes 4x what fission makes and can create elements up to lead. You basically have a star
@kreek22
@kreek22 Жыл бұрын
@@skierpage Fission reactors and solar/wind are not comparable, therefore neither is cheaper than the other. Now, solar/wind plus storage can be compared to fission reactors. And that comparison doesn't pan out so well for solar/wind.
@therealb888
@therealb888 Жыл бұрын
@@spencervance8484 Up to lead via fusion? You sure about that? As for 4x the energy, we're talking about just H fusion.
@aptorres01
@aptorres01 Жыл бұрын
Great video thank you
@trannel73
@trannel73 9 ай бұрын
This topic give me hope to the 21st century in regards to the energy challenges!
@thekinginyellow1744
@thekinginyellow1744 Жыл бұрын
When I was working on controlled fusion in the 90s, I came to the conclusion that it was the philosophers stone of our time. I have seen nothing since to make me change my mind, but I desperately hope that someone will prove me wrong.
@ahklys1321
@ahklys1321 Жыл бұрын
Can I ask, what, as simply as you can describe, made it seem a fools errand?
@thekinginyellow1744
@thekinginyellow1744 Жыл бұрын
​@@ahklys1321 At that time the main approach was magnetic confinement. The problem in general with magnetic confinement is that there is monstrous feedback between the plasma and the containing fields. Furthermore, the higher energy and higher density your plasma gets, the higher the feedback gets. It just doesn't seem to make sense. For ICF the problem is different. Because it is an impulse system, for any type of you have the problem that you need to clear out any reaction products from the previous shot before you can do the next shot. This seems somewhat more feasible, but that much.
@ahklys1321
@ahklys1321 Жыл бұрын
@@thekinginyellow1744 oh, that makes a bit of sense, I guess. Thanks 👍
@lesmiklosy4300
@lesmiklosy4300 Жыл бұрын
Like putting a propeller on a bike, the harder you pedal the more energy the propeller consumes.
@darinhitchings7104
@darinhitchings7104 Жыл бұрын
There have been a dozen or so major developments in the last 10 years concerning a) high temperature super conductors, b) MIMO control techology and high-speed chips for controlling such systems, c) actuators ( I imagine ), d) simulation technology, e) fundamental science / physics, f) new simulators that have come out of Princeton et al, new algorithms, g) deep learning and 'AI' techniques applied to predicting plasma instabilities better... And probably far more stuff that I'm not aware of because I'm just a spectator (although I have a ph.d. in systems engineering and mathematical optimization...). But my point is that a great many things have changed in the last 10 years. And the fact that the billionaires are coming in cause they smell blood in the water, so to speak, reinforces that idea in my mind. This is a different ball game. I don't think you're up with the times, lately.
@mikeg9b
@mikeg9b Жыл бұрын
It's like a marathon where it doesn't matter who wins as long as someone finishes the race. The more runners there are, the more likely someone will finish and the sooner it will happen.
@6Sparx9
@6Sparx9 Жыл бұрын
ok let's say China cracks it first
@slyseal2091
@slyseal2091 Жыл бұрын
@@6Sparx9 The fact that copyright theft is associated with China is only because all the other countries don't have the care or need to do it themselves (at least not publicly). China builds one, a western project will "suddenly" appear - with similar technology of course.
@pulto1000
@pulto1000 Жыл бұрын
The fact that the guy from 0:58 looks like Otto Octavius from Spider-man, is awesome :D
@hugodiazgarcia1266
@hugodiazgarcia1266 3 ай бұрын
Felicitaciones a Bloomberg por su video sobre el creciente interes de empresas privadas en invertir en proyectos de fusión nuclear con reactores revolucionarios!!!
@liniamacaron9959
@liniamacaron9959 Жыл бұрын
Jobs will pay your bills business will make you rich but investment makes and keep you wealthy the future is inevitable
@thomasdooley3702
@thomasdooley3702 Жыл бұрын
@Hart Thim you're right it's obvious a lot of people remain poor due to ignorance
@christianajoe8563
@christianajoe8563 Жыл бұрын
I'm looking for something to venture into on a short term basis, I have about $6k sitting in my savings
@cassiejacobs4197
@cassiejacobs4197 Жыл бұрын
Crypto currency will outsmart the banking system in the nearest future serving as a global fiat. Already making over 85% of my investment
@christianajoe8563
@christianajoe8563 Жыл бұрын
I'm new to this Bitcoin trading, how do I get started with the help of a professional?
@christianajoe8563
@christianajoe8563 Жыл бұрын
Any specific guide?
@ekulda
@ekulda Жыл бұрын
Question? Q = E out ÷ E in What are the elements considered in Q ? Would you measure the energy that was used to make the materials of the project / reactor? When will that achieve break even. Not only power input is "Q E in". Footprint of all elements must be considered. So if the highest break-even is 0.7 what were the factors used to measure this. Thank you.
@Wib0
@Wib0 Жыл бұрын
We will have fusion in about 20 years! Very exciting!
@bettyjaneantanavicius9800
@bettyjaneantanavicius9800 22 күн бұрын
The Cinese already have thorium reactor up and ready, using fission.
@randomposterguy7097
@randomposterguy7097 Жыл бұрын
Experts working on this, the world is watching, we need this as soon as possible, please, never tire and do 100% to save our species.
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