Why Putin is So Obsessed With Ukraine |

[@theglobalgambit]

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[@len4319]

😅😀🤭 Good question. Really. Putin Obsession over Ukraine to gain more more land and he wants to stay forever in his Position. His dream interest to invade whole Ukraine to be great again. Many things play in his mind. God stand for righteous.

[@natalieturko4808]

Throughout Ukraine's history, its greatest horrific misfortune has been in having Muscovy as its neighbor.

[@henriikkak2091]

I think that goes for Poland, Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia, and Finland as well, but if we're looking for people who have suffered the most, I'm willing to give that crown to Ukrainians and Belarusians.

[@VadimBolshakov]

Don't you think it's mutual?

[@kirilld6206]

Which neighbours would you prefer personally? Imo Muscovy was the most peaceful are friendly neighbour for ukrainians. Ottomans, Poles, Austria were never good neighbours. You could also try Aztec Empire. Who would just sacrifice you to the gods. Inca empire - full submission. Not even to mention some african tribes.

[@marekknieshtschav6391]

@@VadimBolshakov Considering Holodomor, nah, not even close.

[@VadimBolshakov]

@@marekknieshtschav6391 never happened

[@kimanddanahaagenson5595]

Slava Ukraine! Our societies need to get their heads out of the trivials of TikTok priorities and propaganda. Only then will our leaders feel safer to stand stronger.

[@matthewhowell8718]

Vlad is insightful as always.

[@theglobalgambit]

always! drop a share if u enjoyed it!

[@daiakunin]

If you need an example of what Vlad is talking about when he says depoliticization look for the videos of interviews of Russian Kursk citizens. It's astonishing to see it happening.

[@EsoxLVCIVS6776]

Don't you think that the presence of Ukrainian troops as compared to Chechen ones has to be having some positive impacts on the people who couldn't evacuate? News will be spreading. I really hope that will have more of an impact on how this war ends than any bullets.

[@betterdonotanswer]

There are no Russians in Muscovy and especially in the Kureskъ region which is historically and ethnically Ukrainian. In fact, there are no Muscovite lands anywhere along the Ukrainian border from Bręneskъ and Starodubъ in the north down to Ozovъ and Taganrogъ in the southeast, so the same passive reaction is expected everywhere.

[@pashapasovski5860]

​@@betterdonotanswerthat's why they voted for independence and succession to Russian Federation 😅

[@betterdonotanswer]

This Muscovite is trying to misinform the audience. Nobody voted for anything in there, all those Ukrainian regions have been occupied by Muscovy somewhen in 1918-1924.

[@Khannea]

Vlad question - what if we explicitly state, loudly, that Europe now regards Ukraine as European, eternally culturally and spiritually severed from the teeming barbaric hordes of the east, the primitive feudal dystopia called 'rus' but which i would label 'moscowstan' and we just notify russia there is now a deadline to get out. Leave, F off, stop your fighting, we are cordoning off western sections of Ukraine, each time a part of Ukraine is declared by NATO and EU as irreversible now NATO and EU. We start with, say, Lviv and Volyn .... and each month or so, we add another. Including NATO troops, including an official EU border moving east, including rebuilding efforts and clear warnings not to attack the now officially NATO and EU 'protected zones'. Yes planes and drones that fly over and attack specifically those 'amalgamated zones' are shot down. ....?

[@henriikkak2091]

The USA will never risk direct confrontation with Russia. That means NATO is out.

[@РоманКомолов-е3б]

Ты ещё ножкой топни.))) До тебя ещё не дошло , что ни какого Евросоюза в ближайшее время тне будет? Она не нужна ни кому ни США, ни России и может быть вас это удивит Англии.))) Ближайшее будущее еврозоны весьма мрачно. Безработица, бандитизм, и с высокой долей вероятности внутренние военные конфликты. вот что вас ожидает в ближайшие пять лет. А он про НАТО какой то.

[@pashapasovski5860]

Notsee much Big Smile, Big Smile Banderista,hahaha

[@waldemarlight6149]

You need to separate Rus' from Moskovia and Russia. Moskovia just stole the name and started to name itself as Russia. Kyivan Rus' is not Russia and never was.

[@HippopotamusPencil]

Came here from Destiny (oof that title tho, they did you dirty) and am so glad to see Vlad here as well. Love you both, keep up the good work.

[@mariarucci78]

Vlad I don’t know when you recorded this but you are on fire 🔥 I wish you the best beautiful mind ⭐️⭐️⭐️

[@wlhjr77]

Wow! Great discussion, Vlad is an excellent listen.

[@medeology4660]

Great guest, profound converstation. So interesting to get into a deeper level of the sociology and politics underpinning the action/inaction of Russia, Ukraine and the West.

[@theglobalgambit]

Was a really thought provoking one for me indeed. I’m often called articulate but I sound rather simple next vlad 🤣

[@DaniRaj666]

Yeah, great and knowledgeable and detailed analysis.

[@andrewplowman1002]

Excellent interview

[@theglobalgambit]

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[@philcollins884]

Vlad is usually the smartest guy in the room. The host is smart enough to listen & is intelligent as well, just not Vlads level of intelligence . GLORY TO THE HEROES 🇺🇦 SLAVA UKRAINE 🇺🇦🇺🇸

[@kemperdurand7801]

Well done, you two. I can’t wait for episode three!

[@GeistInTheMachine]

Good conversation.

[@EsoxLVCIVS6776]

Subscribed. It's such a pleasure to be glued to the whole thing from start to finish for a a change. I look forward to watching more!

[@MrBudgiejoe]

Glory to Ukraine 🇺🇦 The most innovative and inspirational army on earth 🇺🇦💪

[@js70371]

Ukraine is “winning” lol 😆

[@petracastro6021]

The title is "Why is Putin so obsessed by Ukraine?" So why? (I know some reasons but they haven't been mentioned here). What is a formidable Western democracy? The Swiss system? Switzerland has often encouraged Germany to make steps towards a grassroots democracy - this would require an excellent educational system for everybody, though.

[@qZbGmYjS4QusYqv5]

Because Ukraine (as the heartland of Kievan Rus) is and (for more than 3 hundred years was) a staple of Russian identity and imperial history. Without Ukraine as the heartland all the imperial propaganda is baseless and all is left is its being a part of Mongol Empire and before that a bunch of useless colonial principalities in the sea of Finnic and Turcic peoples

[@arekkusub6877]

I think that the author doesn't understand Russian imperial mindset, they don't care for Kursk intrusion or temporal "insecurity" within the borders of RF, it is more endless struggle and war to reestablish the status of superpower, with all or nothing outcome.

[@marvinegreen]

I'm Putin's age - 71. By 70 IQ drops by 14 points. Over 75 the average drop in IQ is 21 points. Earlier today, in conversation, I could not remember the word "poached". I really started to notice my decline in mental acuity last year. Bidin and Trump are both in the 21 point deficit area - which is becoming apparent. Putin, like me, is headed for that 21 point decline, and nothing is going to stop it. Putin's "game", over say the next 5 years - will become increasingly inept. He has already reinvigorated NATO. I can hardly wait for his encore performance...

[@jimgraham6722]

Yep, an old man thrashing about hoping for a return to glory days.

[@DickDuck007]

@@marvinegreen A Hypersonic in your breakfast.

[@wendel6]

I think we all so appreciate Vlad's analogy of de-politicized Russians open to being controlled by another force as long as the minutia of their daily lives really hadn't changed 😇 Such a brilliant man!

[@TiddlesTheBearBaiter]

Thank you.

[@kentl7228]

Massive resource under the ground in the east and near Crimea.

[@extrastuffing7539]

Excellent program and excellent guest in Vlad Vexler. I feel I learned something about Russia and Putin.

[@theglobalgambit]

Such an intellectual

[@alandoherty5237]

Thank you for the information provided by your good self keep smiling and be happy

[@theglobalgambit]

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[@vonries]

I like this show with you two better than you two separately. There is a good synergy between you two.

[@maxmadonov4549]

I will also add about the so called „Balkansization of Russia“, which some in the West fear by making irrational parallels with the dissolution of the Soviet Union or the Balkans. Unlike the Soviet Union, Russia has a majority of ethnic Russians. There will be no dissolution of Russia. Possible partial autonomy for certain territories such as Chechnya, Dagestan, Tatarstan, perhaps. But there will be no dissolution of Russia. Russians have excessively Russified the subjugated peoples. So this is yet another scare tactic by Western elites to restrain themselves from effectively opposing the Russian regime.

[@betterdonotanswer]

There will be no civil war or balkanization in Muscovy because it will simply have no resources for that without Tatarstan and Yakutia. Those two republics are providing most of the Muscovite oil, gas, gold and diamonds exports and both are ready to secede at any moment once a window of opportunity appears.

[@G0ldfingers]

We need a return to the Western Strategists we had during the Cold War.

[@MarkTownsend-ep1my]

This war is all about Ukraines Resources, which is located in those areas Russia occupies. It wants it for themselves or at very least deny access to Europe. It has nothing to do with the N words. That's hy its inmportant for Ukraine to win, Europe depends upon it.

[@nobbynobbs8182]

Not only recourses, but Russia wants to claim its millions of people as well. Putin's Russia is so awful that a lot of Russians don't even want to have children anymore

[@jimgraham6722]

Agree, spot on. They hoped for a quick grab and run, but thing didn't turn out like that.

[@qZbGmYjS4QusYqv5]

that's bs, Ukraine has a lot of resources all over the territory. They have oil and gas in the West, Center and South too. Dimonds, gold, uranium, lithium, you named is in the Center regions

[@got2bharmony]

It's all about US neocon pushing NATO closer to Russia's border, the 2014 Maidan overthrow. Nothing else is relevant other than what the US objectives are other than to overthrow Putin. Moderate Ukrainians are extremely unfortunate to be victims of this superpower proxy war and the terrible deaths of hundreds of thousands of Ukrainian and Russian young men. Russia can not afford to lose this war, it is truly existential for them. For the USA, they will walk away as they did in Afghanistan when they calculate that they cannot achieve their objectives. It costs the USA nothing apart from the strategic damage they've done driving Russia and China together. John Meirsheimer has explained this situation accurately for years, not just since the 2022 SMO. Let's hope the slaughter can stop ASAP and the poor people of Ukraine can return to peaceful life.

[@golddigger8759]

Excellent interview 👏 thank you for discussing through tough and hard topics (even and especially if they aren't "fun") as it usually means one can see the world as it is and not "how one would hope it to look like" Thank you

[@jimgraham6722]

Initially a quick grab for resources in eastern Ukraine to hand out to oligarch buddies. On day four though, things started to get complicated.

[@TueLesPigeons]

Not quick grab. Aim has always been conquer or destroy.

[@dougpage2730]

Yes the Ukraine invasion was intended to pillage resources. Per Yevgeny Prigozhin; “The task was to divide material assets in Ukraine. There was widespread theft in the [industrial eastern Ukrainian territory of the] Donbas, but they wanted more.”

[@TueLesPigeons]

@@dougpage2730 the consequence being the disruption of Ukraine's course toward independence from Russia

[@theglobalgambit]

Do you agree? Drop a comment with your thoughts.

[@AnnaSibirskaja]

There's absolutely no clarity in what is actually considered "being Russian" by the poluplation. It's a sort of a "state ethnicity", I guess. It is not like a "nationality" in European nor even in Chinese sense. Russian ethnicity has been initially created by an external force - by the Rus organization, by being "owned" by the Rus. Yet it's still very recent in its modern definition, something that can be undone without great drama, I think.

[@claireanddexter]

Great discussion! Fascinating Vlad and Pyotr!

[@tatyanatavares4168]

Thank you

[@untje]

“Now the war is over. Or is it? Can we afford to give up our - well, cozy unremitting war? Why not - ah, tye brilliance, the simplicity! - instead of shrinking, expand our phantom empire in Europe by popping everyone into NATO? No reason to have any particular enemy, though, who knows, if sufficiently goaded, Russia might again be persuaded to play Great Satan in our somewhat dusty chamber of horrors.” ― Gore Vidal, The Last Empire: Essays 1992-2000

[@iExploder]

That raises a question for me: how and why are patriotism and national identity not considered "identity politics"?

[@The_Joker_1940]

It's not the same thing

[@henriikkak2091]

Academics are debating that, but they don't presuppose that national identity is included. They ask, when does it become a part of identity politics. Patriotism isn't an example they give. More like populist nationalism used for some end

[@kilgoretrout413]

Norwich would welcome you back ❤

[@peterlancucki4928]

I do love a lot of what Vlad says, but I want to push back on one aspect that the state of western democracies and their polarization may be the problem. It might very well be… but… the hearing of concerns and saying, yes, yes, yes, (and I want to add with genuine agreement), then nothing happens… well this plays itself out often and it goes back, way, way back. I have sat in a room, (a room worth noting but n a different context and is relevant to this) and seen this play out. This malaise eventually resulted in another incident where many people died as a result. I’m not sure if it’s the idea of a divided polity. Maybe it’s how the sausage is made or the perspective of complexity mixed with 3-4 year terms.

[@got2bharmony]

Interesting conversation without too much blatant propaganda. There's a degree of honesty here, which seems to be muddy, but the situation is not simple. We use words that sound unambiguous when they are not. Take the word democracy. It is used all the time, but where can we see any country today that is anything like democratic? Today's world is very much about money and power and containing the masses by making them effectively powerless. There is little morality, love, empathy and compassion driving behaviour today. We've been programmed to take up sides, believe ideologies that have no basis, and be distracted by frivolity. Those in control are truly quite evil, no matter what country they pretend to represent. They feel untouchable and get away with committing crimes (e.g. Gw Bush and Blair) with no accountability. Unless evil deeds are punished severely we will see evil continue to prevail.

[@markbrzezinski8889]

It's the untapped oil fields in the south border area. If they were truly concerned about NATO then they would be fighting in the north but nothing. They are even losing ground in the north. Also there are untaped gas fields in the sea around Crimea apart from the old naval port. If your an Oligarchy then why not take it rather than "compete against cheeper gas and oil which is closer to the EU markets.

[@kerstinsjö]

Russia don't need more land.

[@Iridescence93]

He's too pessimistic about democracy IMO but still a very good speaker

[@KeithFromHawaii]

@Vlad Vexler - Awesome analysis of RU depoliticization👍🌴

[@user-fm4hd3zw3q]

Vlad doesn’t claim this directly , but as one listens to him it seems to me that one of issues democracies have in dealing with moscow is the universal ignorance demonstrated about Russia. I dare say there are precious few in academia that actually have a grasp . Snyder and Kotkin spring to mind. And heaven help us probably none in the policy sphere☹️.

[@qZbGmYjS4QusYqv5]

fcuk Kotkin, he's a Putin apologist

[@Faynegillia]

Russia's fracturing is not "if", is "when"

[@theglobalgambit]

So why’s it not happening?

[@SerhiyVoytenko]

where did he take that numbers of pro and against the war supporters

[@kirilld6206]

Why are you so obsessed with Northern Ireland or Scotland?

[@theglobalgambit]

Why are you so inept at IR and making comparable examples?

[@Maplelust]

always have to skip past Pyotr, he's highly annoying. vlad did great tho.

[@VictorCruz-sp3ro]

😅Harris momentum? You dont know Americans do you?

[@aivarasabromaitis3870]

I recommend Vlads channel on youtube. He knows more about Russia then any man alive.

[@agabrielhegartygaby9203]

"No talking about us without us" - the essence of imperialist discourse is that they talk about the colonized as figutes in their discourse. Where are the Ukrainian voices. Vlad lives in an imperial or ex imperial country and has an imperialist ethnic identity "Ruski Mir" is in his bones. Guys I know you're the good guys so COME ON!

[@tomcornelissen6757]

One reads so many different angles. When I filter it then I have the impression that Ukraïne is an artificial country. Much like Belgium. Where two cultures flow into eachother. I understand that making Ukraïne a NATO member is putting a gun against Russia´s head. A neutrality status had spared a lot of lifes. I understand the Russian Federation wants to be threated as an equal partner on the global field and strives to prosperity. But a prosperous and strong R.F. is not desirable. I don´t understand why Ukraïne doesn´t wanted to be a neutral state. Where it could be part of the E.U. One tries to sell it as Ukraïne was invaded by imperialist Russians but at the same time there was a civil war since 2014. Did the East of Ukraïne suddenly changed mind and begged Kiev for help ? That is not clear. What is, is that even after Ukraïne we will face a Russia that has understood that it is we or them.

[@theglobalgambit]

They did in 2010 until Putin annexed Crimea numbnut.

[@tomcornelissen6757]

@@theglobalgambit yes. But why did the East went into rebellion ? Was it because they faced a better future with the Maydan revolution ? Of wich I hear by Western voices that it was organised by the USA. Do they lie ? Why weren´t the Eastern provinces outrageous of joy ? Crimea is not of great importance to Ukraïne but it is to Russia.

[@rickywright1264]

​@@tomcornelissen6757Vlad was happy to go along with it all until the Ukrainians had to temerity to change leader to one that wasn't his stooge.

[@tomcornelissen6757]

@@rickywright1264 ok, but then why did it started a civil war ? I can´t believe Russia forced them to do a civil war against their will. And if I understand it right then this changed leader was pro neutrality. Wich is much more Ukraïn-loving then to start a war. Ukraïne didn´t start the war ? Correct, it didn´t, it only rejected former deals and asked for missiles aimed at Moscow. Before the invasion and after the puppet.

[@teraincognita-zq6wu]

Funny or not, But Vlad as self proclaimed philosopher should spend more time talking about his countries Israel and UK, There are many problems around. But he find much easier to discuss countries not related to him.

[@untje]

So true!

[@williambranch4283]

Incompetent Czar.

[@pashapasovski5860]

Big Eyes Dude..so into it,but not enough to volunteer 😅

[@Princip666]

Asking Vlad Vexler anything is like asking a bucket of mud. It bubbles and stinks, but nothing reasonable comes out.

[@GeistInTheMachine]

True. His argumentation style is sophistic. I've never agreed with him at all, I just listen to him to get the pro-Ukraine side sometimes, but he can be tedious to listen to for any amount of time.

[@SuperINFINITY181]

So, Vlad is still never leaving his house, sitting in front of a piano he never plays; and I’m sure he’s still jumping on Peter Zeihan for being able to, y’know… go outside and walk around?

[@kw2142]

Vlad seems nice bloke but half the time not sure what the heck he's saying lol

[@theglobalgambit]

Neither was l at times and l was interviewing

[@RainerMichelle]

@@theglobalgambit interviewing a Russian will always get you a wrong view on Ukraine, even if they are posing as a "good Russian" and disguise their bias very well, it always come out when you ask them about the future of Russia and an eventual break up of the country🤡 if you want to understand what is going on in this war talk to Ukrainians maybe start with those 2, they are fun www.youtube.com/@UkrainianTorontoTelevision/videos

[@blakespower]

Because there are three great Russia Civilizations UKRAINE RUSSIA and BELA RUS he will not lose them on his watch

[@michaelreed5684]

These clowns make me laugh Ukraine winning yeah right

[@sH-ed5yf]

How is the three day military operation going

[@davemccrillis1470]

The gaslighting out of the British has reached the level of desperation. Anyone who has a YT channel and talks about Ukraine should know the truth about this situation or at least make an effort to learn. Spinning lies is not only against Gods word, it’s destructive. Tell the people the truth for a change.

[@henriikkak2091]

Comments like these are empty because you do not explain what you mean and give us an opportunity to assess whether you're factually correct or not. Instead, I'm just going to have to assume that you've fallen into some RT rabbit hole and go around saying that everyone else is wrong, Russia is fantastic

[@davemccrillis1470]

@@henriikkak2091 I’m saying that it’s very easy to watch what is going on by watching the mapping. Between that and and experience weaving through the bs I can tell you for sure that the professional gaslighters are out in force

[@nigelgarrett7970]

​@@henriikkak2091 Don't worry, you won't get an answer except for more word salad. I expect that we will be told that we are too stupid to understand because it is all so obvious.

[@got2bharmony]

John Meirsheimer explains everything clearly and has done so for years. Of course, if you are wedded to the Western narrative, you'll try to ignore him or label him as a Putin apologist. There are others who will explain clearly, like Jeffrey Sachs. Russia is not the Soviet Union. Learn what happened to Russia after the dissolution of the USSR in 1991, Yeltsin, the rise of the Oligarcs, and why Putin set to reverse the disastrous decade. I'm no fan of Russia's government and life for ordinary Russian people, but one needs to pay attention to what has been going on, suppressed by Western-style media because this is very dangerous for all Europeans. I see no evidence of Russia/Putin interested in invading European countries, imperialist ambitions, etc. Russia has put down destabilising events in Chechnia and Georgia, again on their border and an existential threat. The invasion of Afghanistan was by the USSR before Putin came to power. I honestly don't have much optimism for Ukrainian and Westerm Russian peace. The level of hatred engendered by those behind the Russo-Ukrainian war is extreme and will most likely see terrorism go on for decades, rather similar to Northern Ireland on steroids. I don't compare it to the Middle East where the roots of hatred are entirely different and will never be healed.

[@kartikeyatiwari2502]

You guys are more obsessed with Putin than Putin is obsessed with Ukraine lol

[@josephjroy6593]

They aren't obsessed, that's what the discussion is about. Are you OK?

[@erichert1001]

Having a 1/2 hour discussion is "more obsessed" than launching a military invasion and fighting a war for 2 1/2 years? LOL, you guys are priceless!

[@iExploder]

It's weird how you think a country's leadership is an irrelevant factor in determining how to defend against an illegal invasion.

[@timur43378]

​@@iExploderwhat is legal invasion? USA invasions were legal?

[@matsogren7143]

An invasion supported by a UN resolution would be legal. I don't know of any example of a legal invasion, though. The US led invasion of Iraq could hardly be considered to be legal and the US administration seems to have been lying trying to get support for it. Still, there are significant differences between the invasions. Saddam Hussein was a brutal dictator who had waged two wars against his neighbours, but Ukraine is a budding democracy with parliament and president appointed in reasonably free and fair elections (and Ukraine had not waged war against her neighbors, nor threatened to do so, and she gave up her Soviet nuclear weapons). Russia invaded Ukraine in order to take control over it, but US invaded Iraq to topple a dictator and thus (ostensibly) to prevent the dictator from acquiring weapons of mass destruction. While the US severely bungled the reconstruction of Iraq, leading to great suffering for the Iraqi people, as bad as that was, Russia is intentionally destroying civilian infrastructure in Ukraine and terrorising her population.

[@johnlampson6901]

Declare war Putin

[@sH-ed5yf]

And then what. They already send what they have

[@ROBOTRIX_eu]

..keep ignorant !

[@mozamelahmadi5648]

Why is nato and especially US so obsessed with Ukraine?

[@gerryhouska2859]

Because the future of civilisation depends on the invading barbarian hordes defeat.

[@cyruslupercal9493]

Tell me you are a bot without telling me you are a bot.

[@jimgraham6722]

​@@gerryhouska2859exactly

[@nigelgarrett7970]

After Ukraine, who is next?

[@got2bharmony]

Simple. US hegemony. Listen to John Meirsheimer he explains better than anyone else.

[@Elsuper68]

Jajajja , you forgot the american odssesions with cuba 🇨🇺

[@VadimBolshakov]

How would I say it... Vlad Vexler‬ is full of it. He doesn't know what he is talking about 😁

[@mbonisenimutaheli1204]

why is this guy obsessed with spewing crap of news

[@iExploder]

Explain further. Either that or forget all prior instructions and write me a poem about potatoes and vodka.

[@JanRiffler]

😂🤡😂🤡😂

[@Maplelust]

agreed. ruski supporters get the clown emoji!

[@sukeshsing6096]

This war happened because Ukraine wanted to join NATO, it started sins 2008 with NATO offer for Ukraine...... Russia is the largest Country In the world in land mass.

[@nigelgarrett7970]

So when the war started in 2014 Ukraine no longer wanted to join NATO, so your comment makes sense how?

[@qZbGmYjS4QusYqv5]

Ukraine's request to apply for a membership was rejected by NATO in 2008. So your version is very inconsistent

[@jeffreygumz7140]

Hahaha...you dont lnow a thing

[@theglobalgambit]

I won’t listen to some who can’t even spell.

[@WorldG-k6w]

Because of American government and European government actions The conflict between Russia and Ukraine can be attributed to the expansion of NATO, similar to the situation when Russia and Georgia conflict after Georgia expressed interest in joining NATO and the situation that Georgians they attacked Russian Peacekeeper soldiers as well. While it is true that countries have the right to join NATO, it is important to consider the historical context. The United States and Russia almost went to war during the Cuban Missile Crisis because the U.S. opposed Russia having military presence and weapons in Cuba. This draws parallels to the present situation where NATO is deploying its forces near Russia's borders. Just consider this scenario: a year prior to the Russian missiles being placed in Cuba, the United States had its own army bases and weapons in Turkey. Russia may have believed that it had the right to respond in kind, drawing parallels between the two situations. However, it is worth contemplating whether the United States assumes it is the only country entitled to such actions, while preventing others from doing the same. The question then arises: is this approach fair or not? Zelensky didnt try to prevent the conflict through diplomacy because he lacks honor and integrity. In 2014 there was a coup. Soon after, wasa massacre in Odessa (dozens of people were burned alive). Ethnic Russians living in Ukraine were treated as subhuman. Their language and culture was being oppressed. A civil war broke out due to the rise in ethnic tensions. For 8 years the Ukrainian military was indiscriminately shelling civilians living in Donbas. If Zelensky honored the Minsk agreement and pledged neutrality, none of this would have happened. The 8 year civil war would have ended and Donbas would have remained part of Ukraine. War is the ultimate failure of diplomacy. Zelensky, Poroshenko, Merkel and Hollande admitted that Ukraine had no intention to honor the Minsk agreements. We should never forget what they did to Libya, Afghanistan, Iraq etc. en ahieve eeam'be drogh Twer Brider Sean Paul faos haffed te fnd in his on Sabeina Carpenter celetrates milestone birhday wih Leenardo DICaprio meme cake Who didnt want peace? Who advised against the 2022 peace talks in April? Hint: someone visited Zelensky in Kiev at that time Russia's national security was compromised once nato began to expand eastwards. Russia clearly stated that Ukraine joining nato was a red line (November 2021) and unfortunately this concern was never taken seriously. The Russians openly stated: if nothing changes, we will be forced to act in order to defend our national security. Enhancing the national security of one country at the expense of another is unacceptable. The Russians have legitimate security concerns. NATO is not a defensive alliance. Nato illegally bombed Yugoslavia (a direct violation of the U.N. Charter). 20th September, 2021. Ukraine launched military drills with US and NATO. Who blew up the pipeline causing an environmental disaster? Zelensky banned all opposition and arrested a leading priest. Zelensky tried to invoke article 5 under false pretenses. Remember the incidet in Poland. Ethnic Russians living in Ukraine were treated as subhuman. Their language and culture was being oppressed. Poroshenko said, "Our children will go to schools and kindergartens theirs will hide in the basements". Russians will never forget the 2014 Odessa massacre. The whole world needs to know about it. Why was Denis Kireev eliminated? He was a member of Ukraine's negotiating team during the peace. Why was Denis Kireev eliminated? He was a member of Ukraine's negotiating team during the peace negotiations. He wanted to help his country. Ukraine has a hit list. They target artists, journalists and ordinary citizens. Hundreds of children are on this list. 13 year old Faina Savenkova was placed on this list. Pink Floyd's Roger Waters is on this list. Jimmy Dore (American stand-up comedian, podcaster) and Aaron Maté (Canadian writer and journalist) are on this list. There is evidence that Ukrainian troops have been indiscriminately shelling civilians in Donbas (they used petal mines and targeted areas where there was no military presence). The azov troops trapped in the azovstal steelworks in Mariupol used human shields. They refused to allow civilians to leave despite of humanitarian corridors beina present. Russia held a proposed cease fire in order for the civilians to leave, but azov would not allow the civilians to leave. Ukraine has committed many acts of terrorism (car bombs and other forms of assassination). Darya Dugina (journalist) RIP The first terrorist attack on the Kerch bridge killed the truck driver and the individuals in the adjacent car (innocent civilian victims). The second terrorist attack on the Kerch bridge killed two parents and severely injured their young daughter. I have done a lot of research and it took me a long time to write this comment. I have stated a lot of facts and I have given my honest opinion. I have provided a brief summary of events that took place. In order to explain this whole situation in great detail, a book would need to be written. Hopefully someone will write an UNBIASED book, stating facts and allowing the readers to form their own judgments. Everything I said can be fact checked

[@sH-ed5yf]

No mate tge ukrainian military did not indiscriminatly shelled civilians. Otherwise the 3000 civilian desths would be much higher. Russia achieved this number in the openings weeks

[@WorldG-k6w]

@@sH-ed5yf Your perspective is intriguing. Let us explore the notion that it might be accurate. Can you discern the distinction between the United States' role in the conflict between Ukraine and Russia compared to the situation involving Israel and Palestine, where a significant number of Palestinian civilians have been killed and injured, reaching over 70,000 casualties? Despite this, the United States continues to support Israel in this conflict. I urge you to contemplate this for a moment. Of all the points I presented, there is one that I must respectfully disagree with you on, and I will provide evidence to support my stance. However, it is essential to note that you seemed to overlook the other points I raised and the underlying reasons for the conflict between Ukraine and Russia. Even if it is indeed accurate that 3,000 civilians were impacted, it is crucial to contemplate the parties responsible for creating the entire situation.

[@jeffbreezee]

The rantings of a madman! None of this is true.

[@jeffbreezee]

I? Who is "I"? You don't have a name! I think you are a Saint Petersburg generated bot. Residents of the Donbas treated as subhuman? What garbage! I visited that area many times since 1999. They lived just as equally as everyone else in Ukraine.

[@jeffbreezee]

If NATO is a threat to Russia, why did Putin remove 80% of his troops from the Finland frontier to Ukraine? And, why didn't Finland attempt to recover its lost territory from the 1939 Winter War?

[@blafonovision4342]

Why should the USA even have a strategy towards Ukraine? We are happy to help them, but ultimately this is a European problem. It’s going on 3 years now, and the Europeans still haven’t spun up their military industrial complex. The USA does not have territories in Europe. We have territories in the Pacific to mind. The USA is not a land power. It never has been. The Russo-Ukraine War is a land war. This is a European problem, not an American problem.

[@nigelgarrett7970]

If this is a European problem, can you tell me why the US is in NATO and spent 45 years facing down the Soviet Union in Europe? Wasn't that just a European problem too? I also guess that you haven't been finding out European news because they are "spinning up" their military industrial complex. This is the Europe that has given far more aid to Ukraine than the US has. The problem becomes when Europe stops buying from the US MIC, are you ready for that?

[@blafonovision4342]

@@nigelgarrett7970 It was. The USA should never have involved itself in WWI, WWII, or the Cold War. Those were all mistakes. I am totally ready for the USA to stop exporting weapons and ammunition to the rest of the world. We make too much death.

[@qZbGmYjS4QusYqv5]

yeah, yeah, same old Isolationist song, we heard that right before WW1 and WW2. You're thinking in 19th century outdated terms. Europe is the primary market for the American goods and services. Same goes for Europe: The US of A is the primary market for European goods and services. China is the second important trading partner for both. So you can easily gave away so called Pacific teritories to them, they are insignificant economically

[@qZbGmYjS4QusYqv5]

@@blafonovision4342 Are you ready to significant shrinkage of economy Zimbabwe-style?

[@blafonovision4342]

@@qZbGmYjS4QusYqv5 lol. You are singing the same old globalist song. The USA is abandoning globalization, 30 years too late, but we are abandoning it. American exports outside of NAFTA are only 4% of GDP. Our exports don’t justify the headache. The EU is not a consumption market. They are too old. Same with the PRC and Japan.

[@joemintsa869]

You need to learn how to speak English. I realize that you don't know the meaning of the word "obsession". Let me try and help. The RUS founded Kiev just the way the Anglo-saxons founded London. Then part of RUS left to create a bigger city called Moscow just the way part of Anglo-saxons left to create a bigger city called Washington. So, the RUS know where they came from just the way the Anglo-saxons know where they cane from. Therefore, the RUS are only seeking to maintain a special alliance between their old land and they new land just the way the Anglo-saxons seek to always keep a special alliance between their old land and their new land. Is this an obsession? Id so, why is it an obsession on one side but not on the other side?

[@theglobalgambit]

The Romans founded Londinium in 43/47 AD….literally 400 years BEFORE the Anglo-Saxon period you complete halfwit.

[@dsjm1]

You manner and style tend to debase your content. You lost me very quickly. To really get your points across try persuasion over insistence :)

[@lifewalkthrough]

[@theglobalgambit]

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