Why racists idolize the Roman Empire

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[@historydocumentary]

The Early life of Julius Caesar: kzbin.info/www/bejne/rGi7eH-veqZ0p8U

[@user-tf5lg7fc9s]

Cope

[@comment514]

@@user-tf5lg7fc9s u malding

[@user-tf5lg7fc9s]

@@comment514 no u

[@EL-oj6uq]

Video has an inaccuracy, romans had many forms of ancient racism, there's a famous roman philosopher that believed the northern people are strong stupid barbarians and the southern blacks are weak but intellectual, so the romans in the middle are strongest and smartest humans.

[@amei653]

@@user-tf5lg7fc9s so he can't say his opinion now.

[@petak23]

my devotion to Rome has nothing to do with my devotion to racism

[@n1bbles2k]

💀

[@josephnugent3065]

um….

[@theAEDan]

😂

[@jamoses5766]

Same

[@tomashoekstra8011]

Dude, nice and based

[@kandyweeb1885]

You idolise Rome because you’re a racist. I idolise Rome because I’m autistic. We are not the same.

[@Dedicated_.1]

What has autism got to do with anything ?

[@nightowl7261]

@@Dedicated_.1 it has to do with Rome

[@manog6236]

I idolize rome cause im racist and autistc we are not the same

[@fulana_de_tal]

@@Dedicated_.1 probably it's a special interest for them

[@NBrixH]

@@Dedicated_.1 a lot of autistic people are very interested in history

[@oldmansportsog2514]

I swear these people have never met a racist in their life

[@TheCelticCowboy98]

I've never met a racist white person in my life, but I've met a lot of racist black people.

[@darbyheavey406]

I shook hands with LBJ as a young man.

[@pandogstudios1512]

What people

[@TheSquad4life]

how are racist ? do they write it on their forehead lmao

[@javiermercado1996]

​@@TheSquad4lifeNo, usually they tell you uf you ask. The right question isnt "are you racist?" Because that word has different meaning to different people. So first think, what racist means to you, and ask about that. Example: -Do you think there are different races? -Do you think they have different capabilities? -Do you think yours is inferior, balanced, or better than the others? Thats one point, and the other one: -Do you think is better to apply measures to keep native population from dissapearing? -Do you think all races should mix together, making pure races less usual? -Do you think we would be better without some races, or some even deserve extermination, if so, which ones?

[@wolvves4293]

Never heard of anyone comparing Rome and racism 😂

[@pb1305]

Who the f ever said that racists idolized Rome? I'm a racist, and I can give af about Rome.

[@jjf8370]

😂

[@shibby7667]

Cool you want a cookie?

[@mkallday2319]

Bro wants an award 💀

[@thebear2994]

😂.. right there with you buddy

[@ricHard.18]

Right!

[@matix1256]

USA - black slavry OTOMANS - white Slavry Rome - SLAVE IS A SLAVE XD

[@christianjanssen2946]

british empire- black til 1838 and irish til 1916

[@lucaslevinsky8802]

Ottomans were white, they enslaved balkan whites, and blacks through (transaharian slave trade)

[@umutberdan7690]

Nice one

[@MrWolf-xk8sl]

The funny part is that even some Native American tribes bought African slaves, but shhh don't tell people about it... There's such a big misunderstanding about slavery, as it is thought, by idiots mostly, that slavery was a matter of race, but in reality was just a matter of money, buy cheap, the oldest law of economics

[@matix1256]

@@MrWolf-xk8sl even more funny its fact. that... BLACK sell BLACKS to white colonist XD

[@vladdracula8103]

This has to be one of the most ridiculous shorts on KZbin

[@bramobin]

why? Racists for sure disproportionately love Rome. That doesn't make you a rascist for loving it tho

[@harryjester282]

​@@bramobindo go on..... ☕

[@Fligunem]

@@michielreimink5875well that’s kinda the whole point of the video buddy. The romans didn’t care about skin colour, racists care about skin colour

[@seangallagher9435]

No one’s calling you a racist

[@2002kirbow]

I dont think they're saying that liking the Roman Empire or the study of it is racist. Just that most ideologically devout racists like the Roman Empire. Sort of how most toxic hypermasculine fitness bros like the movie 300 and gyms, but most people who like either of these arent toxic fitness bros

[@reignman2103]

Ive never even heard or racists idolizing Ancient Rome. Weird.

[@jaspervoigt4204]

well the nacional socialists used a loot of roman symbolism like the nazi/roman salute, architectural inspiration, the roman/german eagle and hitler was a big fan of the romans. mussolini began the reconstruction of the ara pacis by augustus to boost the roman myth and connect it with facist italy

[@imperium4821]

The funny thing is that actual racists seem to idolise more their barbaric roots

[@Harrison-cp3bj]

Its similar to the theory of Atlantis where racists used it as evidence to prove white people are better than other races because of how advanced the mythological city is. It arose during the late 19th century but the most famous was obviously Mussolini and moustache man. Doesn't mean we can't like Rome

[@yourdad6902]

Because you probably don't see it as racist cos you're aren't the one being targeted nearly every racist group on Facebook or Twitter idolised Rome youre just ignorant

[@yaboipalps8616]

My racism has nothing to do with my love for Rome.

[@Goyim-phobic]

He talked about why many racists do so

[@benjaminwilson8693]

@@Goyim-phobic you missed the joke mate

[@yannick245]

My Rome has nothing to do with my love for racism.

[@yaboipalps8616]

@@benjaminwilson8693 I was actually pretty serious

[@cyberreality7774]

Soy hatred

[@tanberetO]

As a racist, I assure you I don't care about Rome. I care about skin color.

[@THELarvious]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@Mygg_Jeager]

Lmfao

[@fullchicken4492]

Skin color is not race. A pink skin Italian is far inferior to a pink skin Englishman by race. All other races are inferior to the English.

[@ChrisRedfieldsbloodline]

A man of principles...

[@Nikolas_PH]

I care were all one and the same species

[@Britishadow]

Today i found out im racist

[@bramobin]

He said racists like Rome not people that like Roman is racist

[@lorddragonya]

Welcome brother Mars accepts you

[@just-so-were-crystal-clear5245]

He didn't say all fans of Rome are racists only that some racists point at Rome.

[@thesalafislav]

Yes, you are, actually.

[@ilira902]

Emperor Hadrian was black 😂😂😂😂😂😂 Somebody had to learn the diference betwen being african and geting a tan!

[@obabas80]

Correction: Their armor was Greek, especially in early Rome. Their Gods were Greek And their intellectualism was from Greece. This is why it was called the Greco-Roman world.

[@MaxStArlyn]

The Roman Empire was led for over a thousand years, by glittering Constantinople. It was a Monarchy, and Greek Orthodox Christian.

[@obabas80]

@@MaxStArlyn True. And the single smartest thing the Romans did that allowed for their supremacy was the wholesale adoption and recognition of the Greek civilization. They knew that the Greek way of life was the best way to live and they took it and ran with it. We were lucky they did, for had they not, our western civilization would not be as it is today. Let's say the Persians beat the Greeks, or the Celtic peoples defeated the Romans, well, the world would be much different than today. We owe them both our way of life.

[@cegesh1459]

Only their early armor. Their later armor was Gallic. Some of their gods wehere Etruskan, some Greek, some from Persia and yes some from Egypt and even Gaul. Some Romans were Greekabous soe Egytabous.

[@cegesh1459]

​@@MaxStArlynYeah that cult killed Rome.

[@PortugalZeroworldcup]

@@cegesh1459 Rome is eternal

[@MorallyDubiousFrog]

The Roman Emperors from Spain, Africa, and the Middle East were almost all from Roman families who lived in those regions. One of the rare exceptions to this was Philip the Arab.

[@MiguelDS5547]

And he wasn't black either

[@kaloarepo288]

Nonsense Septimius Severus was Punic on his mother's side and Roman on his father's and came from the Punic city of Lepcis Magna.His son Caracalla gave Roman citizenship to all whatever race.Severus' wife Julia Domna was Syrian from an extremely prominent priestly family from Emesa in Syria.Her two nephews became emperors too -the infamous Heliogabalus who met a sticky end at a young age and his cousin Alexander Severus also didn't last long.Rome was an overwhelmingly multi cultural empire that accepted every race as long as they showed loyalty to the empire.Rome was full of Greeks,Egyptians,Syrians,Gauls,Jews and many many others as was the destroyed city of Pompeii.Rome tolerated every religion and cult except the Christians because they refused to sacrifice to the emperor.Major religions were the worship of Isis,an Egyptian goddess,Mithras a Persian god highly popular with the soldiers and also the Earth mother Cybele who originated from Phrygia in Turkey.Romans fused their culture with all the others like in Britain where the British Gallic culture became fused with the Roman.Later under the eastern Roman empire (Byzantine) the emperor's came from everywhere -many were Armenian,Macedonian,Isaurian,Illyrians,Slavic and they married women from all ethnic groups including the Khazars.Roman slavery unlike later slave trades included all types of people -especially Germans,Gauls,Greeks etc-it wasn't just black people.Go and disseminate your misinformation somewhere else.

[@MusicianLCS]

True, people today when they say spanish emperos, say uuu he was today version of latino... No chance, hispanic people were removed by romans, and romans by goths, then arabs and franks and so many others went there

[@MorallyDubiousFrog]

@@kaloarepo288 Septimius Severus’ mother was Fulvia Apia, a Roman woman. Julia Domna was from a Syrian family, wasn’t an emperor though.

[@kaloarepo288]

@@MorallyDubiousFrog Severus was partially Punic and married a Syrian woman-all the sources say this.Rome was as multi cultural and non racist as you can get-I've just outlined in detail all the features of roman culture that proves this and you refuse to take it in -probably because you're racist -against Romans!Rome would also have had many black people as evidenced by early Christian saints like St Maurice whose name means "A Moor" and is always depicted as a black person in Christian iconography.Non Roman royalty was always highly respected in Rome like the kings of Mauretania and the Syrian Palmyrene queen Zenobia -Palmyra itself was a highly sophisticated fusion of Greek,Aramaic,Arab and Roman culture as proved by the spectacular ruins.

[@Fulkvidr]

"They worshipped gods from africa". My dude what have you been smoking?

[@gravefrightn5720]

Right. He's starting to reveal himself as a left winger.

[@KingDanny9]

You do realize the Egyptian gods influenced the Roman gods to some degree, right?

[@Fulkvidr]

@@KingDanny9You do realize saying "Romans worshipped african gods" is very misleading if they where only "influenced to some degree" right? You do realize the Roman pantheon was Indo European right? They worshipped European gods.

[@Fulkvidr]

@@gravefrightn5720 This is the only short i have seen from him. And it is all i really need to see to understand his agenda. Next he will claim the Norse gods were from Zimbabwe.

[@gravefrightn5720]

@@Fulkvidr Jupiter isn't African. Zeus is Jesus/ Jupiter. White God's. That's why when the last civilization reset happened how did that go??

[@Dunedain432]

Saying "from Africa" is misleading. The North African coast was settled by "White people" (remnants from Macedonia of Alexander the great, Phoenicians, etc) at the time and they also provided the main culture. Nothing to do with black African culture.

[@Harrison-cp3bj]

He literally just said from Africa nothing to do with race or culture. He's a Roman historian I'm pretty sure he's aware of the Punic culture that was present in North Africa by the CARTHAGINIAN EMPIRE.

[@Dunedain432]

@@Harrison-cp3bjHe probably is aware, but the layman watches this might not be. It's not clear from how he says it that the mighty families were Europeans who had settled in the Middle East and in Africa. Predominately European peoples. I don't want to give Africans more bullshit half Truths they can use to fuel their woke lunacy to appropriate European culture, the same way they try to appropriate Egypt and the Pyramids, which they had little to do with. We wuz Vikings, we wuz kangs, we wuz pharaos blablabla.

[@thesteveruss]

"Why do woke leftist make stupid videos?"

[@Nebularnoodle]

There is no data to back the argument that racists love roman empire. Its just a stupid clickbait video that knows it will open a stupid debate and get interactions.

[@uptown_rider8078]

Honestly the word “rAcIsT” doesn’t mean anything nowadays, it’s lost meaning

[@jamesduncan6729]

So true. Everything and anything is racist... The word has lost all meaning 🙄

[@user-hc2vk2ic3u]

I have been called racist for saying all africans dont look or act the same😂

[@dopejoel]

It's the new N word but for White people

[@inversion9651]

Agreed.

[@thurbine2411]

@@user-hc2vk2ic3u then it is just some idiot who thinks talking about africa is automatically racist

[@jozefstalin8206]

I respect all races, even the bad ones

[@PauloDiBoa]

Even the inferior ones 😂

[@rbeckmal]

From street races to NASCAR

[@randomcamus9445]

It is strange, the Romans were not very white and had black hair and dark brown eyes and they said that the barbarians were inferior, since the Germans, descendants of barbarians, said that the Russians were inferior. Inferior to the Germans xd

[@randomcamus9445]

@@PauloDiBoa It is strange, the Romans were not very white and had black hair and dark brown eyes and they said that the barbarians were inferior, since the Germans, descendants of barbarians, said that the Russians were inferior. Inferior to the Germans xd.

[@PepeNuclear]

DAB ON THEM JEWS

[@dundundun4242]

As a black man I totally support the Roman Empire

[@kevinc.cucumber3697]

Roman Empire was badass. The thing that took down Rome was incompetence and corruption, in its prime days, it was unstoppable

[@user-qd4td7yb8e]

It fell because of gay truthphobes, pride and other degeneracies.​@@kevinc.cucumber3697

[@ajamessssss]

Rome was badass when it was a republic.

[@joshuamacal3641]

​@@ajamesssssswrong

[@ajamessssss]

@@joshuamacal3641 Rome was a horrible dystopia when it had emperors, that's a fact.

[@sikobaya9298]

At this point, being "racist" just means you breathe air and drink water.

[@zacharyarnettentertainment7503]

Yeah

[@albertvonhabsburg]

_"race doesnt matter if you have family"_ ~Dominicus Torettus

[@svetlozarkirilov977]

-Daequanius Washingtonius

[@johnathanheatherman6438]

Funny Frank Sheeran said the same thing

[@TheIndogamer]

"The human race is both race and family" - PVBLIVS DOMINICVS TORETTVS

[@stephenthedude4383]

🙏🙏🙌🙌💀💀

[@raakavoima-yk4ry]

Race is your family

[@easterworshipper730]

At least Rome was real. Some people brag about wakanda.

[@chalk9760]

are you suggesting that Wakanda isn't real?

[@chalk9760]

you've hit a new low, easter worshipper.

[@pitterpatter4201]

The fact you got that from this video and clearly got offended says you are the target this short is speaking about.

[@Person-tj2sw]

You are clearly the people he is trying to expose in this video.

[@easterworshipper730]

@@pitterpatter4201 yeah i remember when the RACIST people start to call every White person colonizers just because a fairytale place created by a jewish guy from new York.

[@weebslayer3411]

This guy being the definition of "Sometimes I have no idea what the f*ck I'm talking about"

[@bramobin]

Where is he wrong?

[@thesalafislav]

Why? You guys complaining about this video being "woke" literally PROVES his point about racists idolizing Rome. This KZbin short is swarmed with closeted racists pretending to be ironically racist.

[@darthrevan7923]

@@bramobin everything. much like his whole generation they dont know jack shit.

[@Harrison-cp3bj]

He clearly does. He's shown very in-depth research into how Roman history was manipulated and weaponised during the late 19th century to push a racist agenda.

[@leoharrison7335]

Hes lying, Romans didn't like non Romans, this short is crap

[@janicerich4937]

"They worshiped gods from Africa" Ah yes, Jupiter, Sol Invictus and Jesus, my favorite African Gods...

[@gabrielelorusso3335]

Eeeehm, the Egyptian pantheon? That seems pretty African to me. Warning: I don't want to quarrel, please

[@janicerich4937]

@@gabrielelorusso3335 Ahh *EGYPTIAN* gods, my favorite *ROMAN* gods.

[@razinghavoc7419]

​@@janicerich4937Eygpt conquered by the greek man Alexander😂 and whose rulers became greek.

[@def3ndr887]

Technically if Israel was a little bit more to the west Jesus could count as a African God.

[@Ciara1594]

Jesus is Jewish and he came from Israel which is in the Middle East.

[@xxx-lx6bu]

Is it possible to like anything regards to Europe's culture without being labelled as racist nowadays ?

[@madsballing9288]

The point was many white supremacist idolize it, not that you are racist if you like it

[@shelk107]

literally nobody said you are racist for liking the roman empire

[@ravenwhiteduck6460]

Yep you do notice that a lot these days

[@80ki68]

Stop being a snowflake, nobody said you can't like Rome.

[@spikem5950]

​@@shelk107 Yep, love the strawmanning that happens every time this conversation comes up. "Why do many fascists love 40K?" GW: *Literally puts out a letter telling fascists to fuck off their community* "BUHH THEY'RE CALLING ALL 40K FANS FASCISTS!"

[@negative_creep2581]

Why do black nationalist idolize egyptian and ethiopian empires?

[@lux2094]

same reasons obviously

[@ominosersudlander14888]

We wuz ancient egypts and shieeeet

[@denisdiderot6779]

Because they have no history. It's also important to note that they appropriate all the well-known Empires of Africa that were usually on the eastern side of Africa. They have zero connections to those empires but think that because they vaguely share a skin tone, at least in the case of Ethiopia, they can then just steal their history and identity.

[@jorgejustice]

Next video entitled "why pooping is racist"

[@Pharaoh_Tutankhamen]

i mean, poop is bl*ck so....

[@passingrando6457]

Oh, it's wrong to call your own shits racial slurs now?

[@skylershoumaker7648]

Roman religion was based off Greek Mythology…….. NOT African.

[@maxhefepman9233]

Where do you think Greeks god their gods from? Google the etymology of Agammemnon

[@enoppp167]

Roman religion is NOT greek, you think that romans were atheist before encountering greeks?

[@gaemr_o5147]

​@@enoppp167greeks had cities in Italy before Romulus and remus were born

[@charlesmcgill2974]

@@enoppp167some Roman’s were actually atheist 😂 not kidding I read somewhere that a lot of higher class Roman’s believed that when you died it was like the state before birth nothingness.

[@anthemsofeurope2408]

@@charlesmcgill2974 Source: I saw it on r/atheism

[@greece_stronk523]

As racists we do idolize Rome but it has nothing to do with Rome being racist

[@Ligierthegreensun]

Right, it’s mostly just you as racists being stupid.

[@adamoneil5317]

This guy is Jewish. Spreading disinformation is a hobby of his people

[@antionygrilmady9044]

Pax Romana Uber Alles

[@JoeTheBroken]

We wuz roman n shet🧑🏼‍💻

[@Earthbound369]

​@@JoeTheBroken That too. 😁

[@michaelmccarthy579]

I type into KZbin: Roman Architecture. KZbin: This is why you are racist.

[@N-xi2zh]

losers. algo kucks

[@mariokebab534]

Lmao

[@omerfarukceylan7450]

I searched an animation of a Roman pagan worship and temples. Now I’m here reading comments section for 20 minutes.

[@Elmo914]

Why do you idolize the idea of being an idiot?

[@obi-wankenobi2392]

What are you yapping about

[@sardonicspartan9343]

People all around the world Idolized Rome. This has nothing to do with racism.

[@whyisyes3957]

Several extreme right-wing fascist groups use lots of Roman iconography and philosophy… mainly groups like the Nazi’s and Italian Facists

[@Lumosnight]

@@whyisyes3957 fascist groups also use the swastika which is a Buddhist symbol, so what’s your point? You’d probably call Buddhists racist 😂

[@ernestkhalimov1007]

@@Lumosnight and many racists love Hadrians Bar Kokba revolt genocide campaign against the Jews.

[@jonathanstahl2946]

@@Lumosnight Your kinda missing the point lmao, it's perfectly fine to love classical history or Buddhism but nobody is going to say that other groups haven't used them for bad things. Im sure you love history as much as I do but it's important that we keep the history in our mind and not let people who want to twist in to thier own agenda into our community.

[@luiscastaneda5250]

@@Lumosnight they hijacked that symbol since it has existed for thousands of years. We all know what a swastika means. Don't tell me you're a libtard who gets triggered by a KZbin history video.😘😜

[@user-ko9sl7bb7l]

GREECE: THEY WORSHIPED GODS FROM GREECE

[@RomanFanboy]

They believed in all gods as well

[@MusketDeezNuts]

Greek gods came from African Settlers who came to greece.

[@miguelmaestas839]

They worshipped both. Isis was very important to them. They also believed that almost all foreign gods were either real or a god they knew but under a different name.

[@Theadalas]

@@miguelmaestas839 Yeah and frankly I prefer this way of thinking than abrahamic religions that don't tolerate other beliefs.

[@user-uc7qb1su4e]

@@Theadalas 💯

[@AryaOghuz]

Very vague and only goes into one kind of racism. Here’s some other videos you can do, but I know you won’t Why do radical islamists idolize the Umayyad Caliphate? Why do racists idolize the Mongol empire? Why do Hindu nationalists idolize the Maurya Empire? Why do Turkish/Turkic nationalists idolize the Ottoman Empire and Göktürk Khaganates? Why do communists idolize the USSR?

[@Adsper2000]

Depends what kind of Islamist they are. Shias hate the Ummayad Caliphate.

[@AryaOghuz]

@@Adsper2000 You are right, my bad

[@lucio989]

The Egyptian were super racist, Chinese, Central American, Indian, etc. all the same.

[@augmenautus]

ah yes Jupiter my favorite African god.

[@forodinssake9570]

Someone forgot about deities like Toth or Isis

[@JOEFABULOUS.]

Dea Africa a Roman god of fertility and abundance

[@hectornonayurbusiness2631]

@@forodinssake9570 wasn't the Roman Pantheon basically the Greek pantheon but with different names?

[@forodinssake9570]

@@hectornonayurbusiness2631 Roman pantheon adapted deities from lands they conquered, that's why you have Celtic gods, and greek gods and African gods in their pantheon. Romans weren't unique in that method too, it's a great way to keep people from rebelling

[@sprc155]

Egyptians were not African. They were middle Eastern. Stop blackwashing

[@Varex52]

I’ve never heard anyone compare romans to racism in my life, this seems completely fabricated 😂

[@anthonymort5202]

Then clearly you don't know much about white supremacy

[@japanesehitler]

No one is comparing Rome to racism, but Roman themes and symbols are common among many extremists groups, some of which are quite racially motivated.

[@coolbreeze5683]

Racists are morons so attach anything innovative to do with the European continent as their own personal accomplishments, eventhough they had nothing to do with it and, as mentioned in the video, was actually a collaboration of elements of several cultures including from Africa and the Middle East.

[@nodruj8681]

cry about it haha@@japanesehitler

[@dinonuggies2276]

Woke people will see opression anywhere

[@TheSchizoTrollinator]

As a racist I like the Roman Empire even if it wasn’t racist itself

[@Big_D39]

Pass the pipe please.

[@Fluffy_Penguin727]

Jewish propaganda

[@MaxStArlyn]

The Roman Empire was led for over a thousand years, by glittering Constantinople. It was a Monarchy, and Orthodox Christian.

[@abrahamlincoln9758]

"Their armor was Gaulic." pre-Gaulic Rome: SUS

[@IshijimaKairo]

Why would they call it a Pig?

[@azarshadakumuktir4551]

Well even Republican armor was in part inspired by that of Cisalpine Gauls, especially the helmet, look up Lepontic helmets and early roman ones, they are very similar

[@patriciusvunkempen102]

its like saying they did adopt agriculture while being only partialy descended from neolithic middleeastern farmers, nonsensical

[@christiandale4428]

The post is about the Roman Empire, not Republic. There is no pre-Gaul Roman Empire.

[@azarshadakumuktir4551]

@@BluEclipse94 What does that even mean...

[@finnbruton7274]

**Adds ‘liking the Roman Empire’ to list of things that make you a racist **

[@lux2094]

watch the video again and give your brain a second chance

[@Highbredvigor]

Rome didn't even like germans.

[@Caesar_XV]

Came from Spain from an Italian family. Came from Africa from an Italian family. For Roman ethnicity is important

[@mr.archivity]

No it wasn’t. What you wrote is simply how they had a kink to write down everything. Romans only cared about status Slaves Citizens Nobles

[@tr3f4cegamer48]

That's the first time i hear someone saying that racists back their beliefs with the roman empire

[@alfredodiaz6020]

A lot of the online alt right glorify Rome, self identifying fascists epseically romanticize it.

[@thebadstation8416]

@Groszek I hope this is a joke 🗿

[@thebadstation8416]

@Groszek Are you 12 or something?

[@luisandrade2254]

If you visit white supremacist publications they love to talk about Rome and espouse Roman iconography

[@sushidope1701]

I’ve seen it actually. You’d be surprised

[@thewhiskeybro8762]

My guy what are you on?

[@thewhiskeybro8762]

@@jannguerrero I’m just wondering where or how he managed to pull this out of his ass

[@whyisyes3957]

He doesn’t want to be associated with fascists because of an interest in Rome… Damn WW2 dictators

[@SetuwoKecik]

Found one.

[@ernestkhalimov1007]

@@jannguerrero not really since its still within living memory if it was WWI then you could make that point.

[@thewhiskeybro8762]

@@SetuwoKecik no u

[@Culebrunch]

I don't know a single racist who feels genuine inspiration from Rome lmao

[@seckno]

because racists actually dislike romans

[@SolarisFallen]

Lost my respect you did. ROME IS CIVILIZATION!

[@solinvictus2045]

They did not worship African gods lmaoo stop spreading misinformation

[@desmass1]

Uh you dontt study rome enough to say that then 😅

[@ChronosHellas]

@@desmass1Their gods were mostly variants of Hellenic (Greek) deities open a history book and a mythology book while you’re at it.

[@mojus2890]

​@@desmass1Rome was extremely accepting of religions and had a plethora of strange gods. Were there African gods? Almost certainly. Was that the prime religion? No, and whoever made this video is an idiot.

[@desmass1]

actually you should open a history book from a....... college. Almost all of those hellenic gods are from egypt and some from Phonencia with some existing before from minoan islands but larger from Egypt and Phoenicia @@ChronosHellas romans did worship isis Romans 1:26-27 condemns the Cult of Isis, not Homosexuality The Romans also believed in the gods that came from other religions, and when they conquered these areas of land they would also worship these gods, such as the Ancient Egyptian god Isis. The Romans had large public baths that they enjoyed bathing in and many of these were thought to have special healing powers. Laughlin, V. (no date) Understanding the roman appropriation of ancient Egyptian religion, Society for Classical Studies. let me ask a question if buddha is worshipped by the chinese and japanese are they worshipping a indian god ? its slighty different but i think this topic for the INTELLECTUALS is worth talking about i dont think in just black and white i literraly go to the root of everything to understand truth

[@ChronosHellas]

@@desmass1 open a book re tard

[@StrongBowD]

Cope

[@ThomasBrown755]

This guy doesn't know what the fuck he's talking about

[@Harrison-cp3bj]

He does. Racist historians promoted white supremacist ideals when retelling roman history during the late 19th century. A clear political agenda. A similar scale to Atlantis. Just look at the origins of the Fascist salute.

[@austinyates7132]

What did I just watch ?

[@nobilisvaga5267]

Right

[@GoobleryKu]

Another example of why most history channels are run by biased lefty brainlets that only want to spread propaganda

[@orchiddragon7573]

No idea, I just want to go back to my normal feed dude 😭

[@randomguy-xp7se]

Idiocy mostly

[@dragonbones3885]

Some Califag upset that the Roman Empire was European

[@AmericanCrusader222]

“My source is that I made it the fuck up”

[@borisbaran]

Touched a nerve there?

[@simoneidson21]

You’re either playing dumb or just started using the internet recently? You know those “Retvrn” memes? They use the v in place of the u because it’s Latin

[@razinghavoc7419]

​@@borisbaranman cmon african gods😂😂😂 they worhsipped greek and european gods😂

[@mr.k5482]

​@@razinghavoc7419what about the Isis cult.

[@yemuppet8102]

​@@borisbaranjust look at yourself. A sad excuse...

[@finnfairbairn8171]

Everyone idolizes Rome, but for different reasons

[@ADrockstar22]

My question is why do racist love ice cream? I've never seen a racist that didn't like ice cream

[@alexanderschweinehunde167]

Guys I think he’s trying to tell us he’s a racist

[@luggy9256]

More likely he is a communist and everyone must be racist in his eyes…

[@tafazzi-on-discord]

there's easier ways to do that. Post an IQ score above 105, post a link to floyd's feed and seed, and so on.

[@blacknonbinarydisabledlesbian]

@@tafazzi-on-discord theres an even EASIER way to tell people youre racist. Vote for biden

[@tafazzi-on-discord]

@@blacknonbinarydisabledlesbian As much as I enjoy racism I will not give my vote to a person endorsing the homicide of the unborn.

[@xwolfensiriusx]

Nothing wrong with that. He cover it , but we know how he meant it.

[@dougfife7956]

Marxist mumbo jumbo

[@DarkMark-cf1ec]

So in short.. they think Cleopatra was black just cause the Dark skinned africans own her lands now lol

[@tnorth4494]

This isnt the Empire i think racists idolize

[@beniaminorzechowski9913]

So wait Spanish people aren’t white? “ Roman emperors came from all over the world even Spain, Africa and the Middle East”

[@imperatorxz]

​@VanquisherOfTroonsThat's cap, my friend.

[@username-oz6gz]

​@VanquisherOfTroonsarabs are caucasians aswell...

[@YOTSUBA_desu]

"White" is a meaningless term. Iberia was pretty far away which fits the criteria of being foreign.

[@ZCE33]

@@YOTSUBA_desu “Far away”… It only takes less than a day to drive from Madrid to Rome nowadays….

[@YOTSUBA_desu]

@@ZCE33 But the people who lived there would have had little contact. They're the same now because tribal caveman attitudes aren't compatible with our globalized world.

[@kuroshm]

*laughs in Mussolini”

[@sneer0101]

Clown

[@inversion9651]

@@sneer0101 ?

[@larsrons7937]

Mussolini's Fascists weren't racist as such. Hitler and the Nazis were, it was elemental in their ideology. The two must not be confused. Though both are distorted they are very different.

[@niepowaznyczlowiek]

@@larsrons7937 In a 1921 speech in Bologna, Mussolini stated that "Fascism was born ... out of a profound, perennial need of this our Aryan and Mediterranean race".

[@jdog7797]

@@niepowaznyczlowiek he was trying to make allies with Hitler

[@Jinseual]

They were very prejudiced and judgemental against people of different backgrounds which include other ethnic groups. The "post modernists" would still call them racists.

[@LoneWulf278]

You literally provided the definition of “racist”. Almost word for word.

[@williemherbert1456]

@@LoneWulf278 Well, no, it's more generic in term of concept, if it want to be called racist means they have to be racial centrist in being prejudiced, and concept of race is not something to be found in ancient past, they just straight hating in specific to each social group, like Latin Italian, Frankish, German, Slavic, Bulgar, Turkish, Cuman, Pecheneg, Khazar, Arab, Persia, and more, literally could be said hating people based on their statehood.

[@keshav3479]

@@LoneWulf278 And they go and criticize "post-modernists" lmaoo. The irony.

[@poempadgett4664]

Anti-yt racism is all the rage today, and yes, pocs CAN be, and many ARE, racist towards yts, even though BLM & the SJWs try to peddle that infantile, hateful, racist BS.

[@phoenixwithsomeflair]

@@LoneWulf278 See but the prejudice, least from how I understand it, wasn't based on the color of their skin, but from which people they came from ie Gauls, Iberians, Syrians, Egyptians, Carthaginians, etc. It was seemingly much more of a culture thing than a race thing.

[@sanepillow59]

The irony when Rome had several Punic, Syrian, and Arab emperors but not a single British or German one

[@kuronekomema]

when germanic descendants use rome as an idol, it's very ironic... lol.

[@Sirxchrish]

This is gaslighting at its finest.

[@SonofSethoitae]

Wow, I've never seen anybody prove they don't know what "gaslighting" means so quickly before, a dubious honour for you.

[@APimpNamedSlickback69]

POV: you don't know the meaning of the word "gaslighting" Atleast try searching for the meaning of the word on Google before making a fool of yourself on KZbin.

[@miguellabordaburnett3617]

@@SonofSethoitae So basically whoever thinks romans did anything by themselves( which they did a lot) is a racist, and that is not gaslighting becouse you saw a tik tok absolving you. Ok.

[@cyrilvidal1834]

@@SonofSethoitae Gaslighting is a colloquialism, loosely defined as manipulating someone so as to make them question their own reality. The term derives from the title of the 1944 film Gaslight, though the term did not gain popular currency in English until the mid-2010s. Thank you for showing us that you both “intellectuals” have the lowest comprehension skills in youtube. SMH

[@9and7]

@@APimpNamedSlickback69 it's to manipulate and that's exactly what this douchebag's video is trying to do.

[@raulduke3237]

I love being racist. It has truly helped me so many times in life.

[@SetuwoKecik]

If you're a racist, chances are you're not even the best form of your own people.

[@loona_mew]

Yup

[@christopherperez1252]

Troll

[@SonofSethoitae]

Pathetic

[@arbaazshaw8123]

@@SonofSethoitae couldn't have said it better

[@SkupKatalizatorowPabianice]

Roman emperors came from Africa lol dude implying they were black or soemthing? Remember who rule and lived in Africa back then. Silly.

[@Harrison-cp3bj]

No no no. You're making an issue from nothing. He didn't say the Roman emperors were black not once. Roman emperors were born in Africa but they weren't black and he didn't imply that they were.

[@xyz-rk7ru]

No, this video is very inaccurate. Roman armor, cloths ,Gods and intellectual were all greek

[@Harry11enderson]

Source: dude just trust me

[@views-kb6sv]

Can you provide a source that says they were racist?

[@vermas4654]

Ah yes, because a KZbin short is known to be the pinnacle of scientific research

[@gertiklaus2551]

Amateur,he sources is that he made it the fuck up.

[@dragospeta3812]

This KZbin Channel is utter BS. Romans cared about races : Germans were considered a race and the Syrians were considered as a diffetent race.

[@colonelarmfeldt8572]

​​@@dragospeta3812 Yup. They saw races, as in ethnic groups, but not so much skin colour. That's also why non-Italians were not allowed citizenship until the late empire.

[@joey6058]

I have never heard of racists idolizing Rome. Never.

[@slaire7799]

*cough* austrian painter *cough*

[@Luckmann]

"Racists" traditionally do not care, but third-positionists generally absolutely do, even though they are generally anti-imperialists. Most "white supremacists" are nationalists and actively oppose imperialism.

[@vulpesinculta572]

​@@slaire7799 Austrian painter didn't even idolize Rome though? He believed in Germanic supremacy not Mediterranean supremacy.

[@BacklTrack]

The nazi salute is called the Roman salute lol

[@vulpesinculta572]

@@BacklTrack Yeah but that's all fascists ever. That doesn't mean that all fascists idolized Rome. Nazis did it because all other fascists did it. Also to be fair the salute looks good, it's strong and mighty. You can see why it took root if you ignore today's social stigma. In no other way did the NSDAP or the Austrian painter idolize Rome.

[@ryanbrown4053]

I feel like so many people love Rome its pretty dumb to imply theyre all secretly or openly racist

[@busterdouglas593]

Romans had a segregated Legion, non Itallo-Hellenic people served in the Auxilia as they were not classified as Roman citizens but as provencals. So yeah, they had a concept of race/ethnicity and placed value on it. A good comparision would be Chingis Khan's Mongol Empire, where provencals were allowed to practice their religions and speak their language but were not considered equal outside of their province. Edit: They did not worship gods from Africa, that is a lie. Their form of polytheism was based on the Greeks which was likely derived from Yamnaya mythology/mysticism from Russia/Ukraine. Indo-European polytheism coincides with the spread of Indo-European languages, Zeus/Jupiter being a Sky Father deity after all and is based on Dyēus Pater.

[@Lucas39636]

“Why did racist look up to the Roman Empire “ i didn’t know i was a racist

[@EyeLean5280]

He didn't say YOU were a racist or that all people who love Roman history are racists. Listen again.

[@thegyattiestmanalive22.2]

he said a lot of racists worship rome, not that everyone who likes rome is racist.

[@RotneybotOfficial]

The word "racist" is like the word "fascist." They're buzzwords that mean nothing.

[@comically_large_cowboy_hat3385]

uhhh no they’re not…..thats just not true

[@Pharaoh_Tutankhamen]

@@comically_large_cowboy_hat3385 you can't just say no, do u have more authority?

[@comically_large_cowboy_hat3385]

@@Pharaoh_Tutankhamen oh i’m sure rotneybot is an expert on linguistics and sociology…..i have just as much authority as them as far as i’m aware

[@magicman3163]

@@comically_large_cowboy_hat3385 at this point they just mean being meanie Bo beanie because people are calling democrating politicians fascists and a former KGB as president of Russia a fascist

[@hatinmyselfiscool2879]

This the type of shit racists and fascists say.

[@hispacacciato3514]

And if you showed them how Romans look like in paintings and mosaics they would realize Romans were tanner, had curly hair and thick eyeborws

[@mercurius1488]

They were Italian. Still white by every definition. The tan is almost exclusively reserved for males and it does not allude to race as the women were depicted as pale white. Rather, the darker color references a roman ideal that men were hard working.

[@BBeowulf]

Report this for misinformation and which ever other labels fit. Lying about history is not cool, especially when the agenda is causing division.

[@Harrison-cp3bj]

No the racist intellectuals from the 19th century were lying, caused division, and definitely had an agenda. This guys just telling the uncomfortable truth.

[@aston452]

the Western system is still superior

[@bluemachine1025]

Only America is superior, not the current Europoors.

[@aston452]

@@bluemachine1025 America is in steep decline.

[@THINKincessantly]

@@aston452 more semites at the helm than ever before...more debt more war more suicides more drug use decreasing life span ....Maybe not all their fault but when you have more representatives calling shots with the most influence then you must be accountable for the state of affairs

[@arnavpandey3823]

No

[@jonathanstahl2946]

@@aston452 just because your video games and movies have women and black people in it doesn't mean that's the reason America is in decline. Lmao everyone loves to talk about 'wokeness' ruining the west and then ignore rampant racism, drug use, homelessness, wealth gap, school shootings, and many other problems. The 'western system' is not what you think it is.

[@nathanmc6848]

How can you make so many mistakes in a short. You are also ignoring the differences between middle Eastern and North African peoples back then and today

[@joshuatorres1305]

Can u explain?

[@christinawilliams4075]

Since you know so much explain

[@TommyElijahCabelloReal]

I think you similarly missed a point. Arabs and North Africans were seen as and viewed themselves as no less roman then Greeks or Iberians.

[@magicman3163]

@@joshuatorres1305 the Arabic expansion into Roman territory didn’t happen till way later like Byzantine Era

[@skrrskrr99]

The roman pantheon comes from the greeks and is also loosely related to indo-aryans.

[@Blue-jd8jf]

Also Rome had nothing to do with northern Europe

[@user-qf7ji5ql9x]

This is proof that you go to university to become stupid......... Then he has to pay it off. For most of his working life

[@OptimusMaximusNero]

"So Hannibal has finally conquered Rome, huh?" *-Historian Cassius Dio' sarcastic comment during the imperial coronation of the general of Punic descent Septimius Severus*

[@PelagiusPrinceps]

Yeah they have some racist and people more liberal like today not everyone think similar but average roman was a lot less racist than 19th century people

[@thurbine2411]

@@PelagiusPrinceps the common merchants probably didn’t care who bought their stuff or people where they could buy their food or whatever

[@diegoandrade467]

@@thurbine2411 merchants never care if it’s for good business. We do have in-depth records of how a lot of Roman/ felt though.mostly Greek vs Latin.

[@thurbine2411]

@@diegoandrade467 and how did they feel?

[@diegoandrade467]

@@thurbine2411 well, pretty disgusted by anything non Roman. Their racism wasn’t towards just anyone with darker skin tone. It was anyone who wasn’t Roman at all. Belgians, Alemmani, Gauls and Britons were seen as disgusting for their practices of wearing pants or being naked all the time, drinking bear made from barely aka horse food, eating butter and others like that. Greeks didn’t get it much better either since they were associated with being sub Roman. Their plays were peasant entertainment and their practice of equal homosexuality compared to the Roman practice of dominance was also another reason to dislike them. Jewish people likely got it the worst though. I don’t need to tell much about that for the point to get across.

[@howiecummings5227]

So this is what happens when I just want to watch total war vids on Rome

[@hc8719]

It means you’re up to no good! 😂

[@howiecummings5227]

@@hc8719 damn

[@reverseflashfacts6093]

Ave true to Caesar

[@soapmaker2263]

I assure you, I liked Ancient Rome long, long before I became a racist.

[@HolyDesolateLord]

Me, unironically. Loved the Roman Empire since I was a young child, and I only became a racist at 16.

[@SirPerceval]

My love for the Roman Empire has nothing to do with my deeply racist convictions.

[@codyschlenker6821]

Racist... racist because we admire a successful civilization. Ok.

[@TosoToco]

No that’s not what he said. He explained why racists idolise the Roman Empire not why those who idolise Rome are racist.

[@ZORGIN]

Thats not what he said. Are you deaf?

[@blazer9547]

​@@TosoTocoracists idolize blm too. We should definitely talk about that?

[@TosoToco]

@@blazer9547 sure we can.. I wasn't aware of this though so please tell me about it.

[@spiderham5514]

​@@blazer9547yes to both. Stop trying to make the world black and white. It's childish

[@augustusgermania]

No Roman emperor was black, same with the Byzantines.

[@esense9602]

There is one black Emperor but who cares, Roman Empire doesn't care about skin color but competent Emperor.

[@soapmaker2263]

@@esense9602Find a first hand source describing him as black. You can’t because it doesn’t exist.

[@esense9602]

@@soapmaker2263 so you will not believe in historical account? at this point make a time machine to prove it

[@soapmaker2263]

@@esense9602 A Roman born to a Roman family in a Roman colony in a Roman province is still a Roman, not black. You have no leg to stand on.

[@NorinScreamer]

To the autor of this short: Sir! Have you considered a brain check???

[@JBROisUNDEAD]

"Why racists prefer to eat meat." Phrasing is important. 😂

[@kkkyles7972]

Guess im racist

[@danieldebod2663]

Well shit, same here, I suppose

[@magicman3163]

Might as well be if they call you one

[@S3b0rg]

Did you know people have developed piss kinks from constantly joking about being into piss? man, I wonder if that could work for other types of humour

[@superdude899]

He didn't say that all who like Rome are racists.

[@superdude899]

but I wouldn't put it past someone named KKKyle to be a racist

[@stevenjames6830]

The Roman Empire was a European achievement. Why should we not be proud. We are all descended from these great people.

[@amanxojha]

Be as proud as you can of your ancestors. Don't let the fool's advice come in between you and your ancestors.

[@slaire7799]

you shouldn’t be a supremacist. There are degrees in pride.

[@sakshamsethi413]

During this time your actual ansector s which are the germanics were savages not civilized

[@willfakaroni5808]

Because you have no power over your ancestors, idolizing their achievements send the message that you are lacking in things to take pride in and instead claim the pride of others

[@votehuss4833]

​@slaire and when the Roman Empire and its extraordinary High degrees of success are being discussed, that should give us an equally extraordinary High degree of pride. If my kid is an astronaut, and your kid works at the Dollar General store, then I have every right to be more proud of him than you are of yours.

[@AnnoyedBoomBox-zq2sq]

I don’t idolize Rome because I’m racist, I’m racist because I idolize Rome.

[@reharl4953]

This is absolutely, without a doubt, one of the most smooth-brained hot takes on the internet.

[@papoprimearchon9910]

Looks like racism became a full on buzzword. Maybe the real racism was the friends we made along the way

[@shay5839]

Thank you! To these leftist liars they think the truth is white supremacy! The Romans didn’t worship African gods either! Filthy Marxist lies!

[@vagrant-techart8278]

😁 I care so much for my bros I wouldn't call them niggas that is for them to demean themselves I would never.

[@tiberseptim8434]

Or…there’s a lot of racism?

[@TheDankBoi69]

💀💀💀

[@Joshua-uw7wm]

Hahahhahah

[@papoprimearchon9910]

Well, we are at that stage where american leftists start to rewrite history

[@JRS-21]

I'm curious about what specifically you find to be factually inaccurate? Also, he doesn't address politics here- just racism. What about that would lead you to believe he's a "leftist"?

[@maidenlessbastard]

​@@JRS-21 Yeah it's funny how criticising racism is considered "left wing" like if racism was inherent of the right lmao

[@JRS-21]

@excathedra5235 Yeah, reading through the comments section of this vid was crazy 🤦‍♂️Idk why I'm still surprised to see these kind of on an innocuous video like this one, but I am.

[@maidenlessbastard]

@@JRS-21 romaboos like to live in their Hollywood fantasy of Rome. Not many like the real history behind it.

[@JustAmaris]

I've been leaving shitposty replies on all the weird racists who manage to be so butthurt about this vid, it's been fun.

[@BryceJose97]

To say they didn’t care about “race” is disingenuous. They didn’t have the word “race” or that concept anyways. However, they did call other groups barbarians & ethnically cleansed their asses. I guess you could say it’s not racism, but the effect was the same I assure you.

[@wubbadubda2291]

"why do racists idolize the Roman empire?" That statement alone tells me everything about this person.

[@unreliablenarratorz2772]

That they are based?

[@jamretro1336]

​@@unreliablenarratorz2772 lmao this guy is new to the internet

[@jeremias-serus]

OP genuinely thinks non-Euro race folk were commonplace in the heart of Rome lmaoo. Also, Gaulic and Hellenic culture being separate from Romantic culture xD vid was a good laff thru n thru

[@effdahjuice6419]

​@@jeremias-serus Source

[@areshenderson1533]

Facts 💯

[@kevinsills9235]

And the winner for dumbest video of the day goes to

[@bramobin]

why?

[@Charly_Emi]

Please explain why you think so, or do you just say that without thinking?

[@kevinsills9235]

because a generalized assumption that people who have interest in the Roman Empire are all a bunch of racists is the most idiot take on the internet...... like it was randomly pulled out of his ass and felt like repeating it over and again with nothing close to anything to back up such a claim. @@Charly_Emi

[@Dagakotowaru298]

​@@kevinsills9235it's not a generalized assumption when it's literally facts from history of the Roman Empire, your mental i tell you that

[@kevinsills9235]

what "facts" exist that people who show interest or appreciation of the Roman empire are inherently white racists?...... There's a lot to openly criticize about the Roman empire too.... plenty!!!.... however they're one of the earliest blueprints to at least attempting a republic form of society, their engineering was centuries ahead of its time (that part of the empire alone is worth studying).... not to mention MOST who often think about the Roman empire in modern society do it as a LESSON to HOW and WHY it fell. The social construct it created that crumbled itself from within..... thats called LEARNING from History so you don't repeat it.......man what racist whitey's they must be. @@Dagakotowaru298

[@rampz975]

As a racist I can confirm I don’t idolize Rome I prefer the British empire thanks

[@VikingWeShallGo]

To say the romans didnt care about race is naive as hell

[@LibertyAndUnion]

Woke and unsubbed to this crt BS

[@canislupus9208]

have fun seething at the callout!!

[@venusianblivet9518]

Criticising racists is critical race theory?

[@samsativa245]

@@canislupus9208 You live in a world where anyone who shows interest or pride in white or european identity is labelled racist and problematic but anyone who shows interest in black or african identity is labelled exactly the opposite. This is what racism is, and you probably contribute to it

[@Bickdickrandy]

@@venusianblivet9518no but he’s painting the Roman Empire in a radical left wing theory of western history that simply doesn’t add up.

[@Nebularnoodle]

@@venusianblivet9518inventing fake statements to portray a society obsessed with race is crt. What data backs the statement that racists love roman empire, other than a subjective perception? And who is more obsessed with race to actually see the skin colour in everything thats discussed?