Why Russia and China Have Quietly Fallen Out

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@donaldlee8249
@donaldlee8249 2 ай бұрын
Countries don’t have friends, they have interests
@Tastybits995
@Tastybits995 2 ай бұрын
Exactly.
@pudanielson1
@pudanielson1 2 ай бұрын
What if they mutually align on lots of interests such as the EU and US or EU + US?
@ArawnOfAnnwn
@ArawnOfAnnwn 2 ай бұрын
Well rn both of them have a common interest. The us brought them together, and the us will keep them together. Nothing will change as long as the us remains as a common problem for them both.
@MorningNapalm
@MorningNapalm 2 ай бұрын
Countries have nothing at all, just land. On the other hand, in the sense meant here, governments of countries certainly have friends, as well as interests.
@kingkayfabe5358
@kingkayfabe5358 2 ай бұрын
They do have allies and alliances.
@valetudo1569
@valetudo1569 2 ай бұрын
I live in China and bargaining/haggling is a sport out here. Ofcoooooourse they are going to now use their leverage to squeeze Russia on insanely low gas prices... this is the downside of being subservient to the Chinese gov. Its the same out here when negotiating contracts or even buying at the market... they will absolutely do whatever they can to get the lowest price possible. Its not seen as shady, its seen as clever. These guys are not "friends"... they have a common enemy and China has Russia right where they want them.. as a vassal state.
@szymonbaranowski8184
@szymonbaranowski8184 2 ай бұрын
imagine having a Chinese as a friend haha
@中国爸爸-l5j
@中国爸爸-l5j 2 ай бұрын
😂是这样的,不过你懂中文吗
@TheDavidlloydjones
@TheDavidlloydjones 2 ай бұрын
Verr-ree plaisible.
@eddietat95
@eddietat95 2 ай бұрын
Congratulations to Xi Jinping - the new President of Russia! And he didn't even have to lift a finger.
@claudeyaz
@claudeyaz 2 ай бұрын
​@@中国爸爸-l5ji can click google translate, and read it
@gordonallen9095
@gordonallen9095 2 ай бұрын
The CCP has never truly been friends with the Russian Federation. Their decades long animosity towards the US and the west made them allies of "convenience." at times. That relationship has always been fragile at best.
@dustintacohands1107
@dustintacohands1107 2 ай бұрын
Imagine their troops trying to work together on different levels it wouldn’t work for commanders or grunts they’d get into a fight
@nicolasc2269
@nicolasc2269 2 ай бұрын
And I mean china claims some russian territories... Just this show how it was just by interest and no more
@JetSetVF
@JetSetVF 2 ай бұрын
Yeah its kind of interesting how the Western media narrative on Russia/China relations follows US foreign policy. Kamala and Walz don't want to confront China...yet, so the new new narrative is China isn't really supporting Russia anymore.
@christianakula
@christianakula 2 ай бұрын
Whether or not the CCP and the Russian Federation are on good term, the America mainstream media will brainwash you to believe otherwise. We all know the propaganda isn't working in your favor anymore 😂😂
@bixbysnyder-00
@bixbysnyder-00 2 ай бұрын
The enemy of my enemy is my friend, and that's it
@Prauwlet213
@Prauwlet213 2 ай бұрын
Russia and China don’t like each other. They never have. Sometimes however, their goals continently align.
@petergreen5337
@petergreen5337 2 ай бұрын
😂😂Hahaha
@OzzyBloke
@OzzyBloke 2 ай бұрын
Lol
@chinesesparrows
@chinesesparrows 2 ай бұрын
Sad Ruzzia has become a mostly captive market for CN stuff which has a certain reputation.
@BladeTheWatcher
@BladeTheWatcher 2 ай бұрын
"don't like" is not an expression I would use in this context. Still, true, China and Russia are old rivals, not only in Manchuria, but in Kazakhstan as well.
@Galford8322
@Galford8322 Ай бұрын
Autocracies don't like other autocracies unless they can dominate them.
@luishernandezblonde
@luishernandezblonde 2 ай бұрын
China has their grievances and they want a position to dictate, not to submit. Russia is the same. Unfortunately for Russia, it is too weak to resist China. Had Putin been more interested in building his country, no one would have complained. But now he chose war and this happened.
@ArawnOfAnnwn
@ArawnOfAnnwn 2 ай бұрын
According to who lol? A bunch of Brit dudes? Yeah, real great source. They're farming you lot for content, and you're happily falling for it.
@andrewrogers3067
@andrewrogers3067 2 ай бұрын
@@ArawnOfAnnwnRussia is weaker than China in nearly every single way, Chinese influence is inevitable.
@luishernandezblonde
@luishernandezblonde 2 ай бұрын
@@ArawnOfAnnwn So Russia is glorious hahahahahahahahaha, what a powerful Russia, who threw Armenia to the bus.
@19rudy73
@19rudy73 2 ай бұрын
@@ArawnOfAnnwn You're the one falling for the propaganda. Ukraine's invasion and occupation of Russian territory was all part of Putin's plan, wasn't it? What a strong and glorious country being led by a strategic genius. And the West is to blame for all the bad things in the world. Sound about right, muppet?
@TheDavidlloydjones
@TheDavidlloydjones 2 ай бұрын
@@luishernandezblonde Hunh? Armenia was born under the furshlugginer bus, fule.
@lageos1860
@lageos1860 2 ай бұрын
We have the 2nd Sino-Soviet(Russian) split before GTA6
@ivangordienko8081
@ivangordienko8081 2 ай бұрын
brainrot ahh comment 😭
@RYTG
@RYTG 2 ай бұрын
W comment, is it weird i long for gta 6 more? :p
@Ptolemy336VV
@Ptolemy336VV 2 ай бұрын
​@@ivangordienko8081 it is in fact humorous, which you need intelligence for😉
@ArawnOfAnnwn
@ArawnOfAnnwn 2 ай бұрын
Man tldr just can't stop returning to the China well for more content, huh? Tldr 'Global' indeed lol!
@JurijsPastnieks
@JurijsPastnieks 2 ай бұрын
@@ArawnOfAnnwn Are you paid to do this or are you just rouge pink jumping the wall? Or are you more of a Russian propaganda enjoyer?
@bixbysnyder-00
@bixbysnyder-00 2 ай бұрын
Think about BRICS. Brazil just wants an independent foreign policy free from US influence, Russia fears Chinese economic dominance, India and China have active border disputes claiming the lives of soldiers in both countries in recent years, and South Africa is too preoccupied with internal problems to do much of anything. BRICS is clear demonstration that countries don't have friends, they have interests.
@VTh-f5x
@VTh-f5x 2 ай бұрын
They have a strong shared interest in de-dollarising and containment of west.
@PenskePC17
@PenskePC17 2 ай бұрын
BRICS is about separately emerging economies. Whoever started pushing it as some sort of alliance that is going to come together to take down the dollar(which they wouldnt even be able) is a dope. Half those countries don't want anything to do with eachother, and/or are in the process of westernizing and getting closer to the US as that's where the future is.
@PenskePC17
@PenskePC17 2 ай бұрын
​@@VTh-f5x do they have a shared interest in unicorns, too 😂
@VTh-f5x
@VTh-f5x 2 ай бұрын
@@PenskePC17 no they aren't interested in pronouns of the lgbtqaip american army. 🤣
@PenskePC17
@PenskePC17 2 ай бұрын
@@VTh-f5x the cope is strong in you.
@diomuda7903
@diomuda7903 2 ай бұрын
I am Czech-Viet and in Vietnam, a lot of people still think that Russia "will help Vietnam" against China and dismissed the theory that China is the senior partner of Russia. They seem unable to understand that Russia is not equal to China considering the "no-limit partnership" is actually only favouring China, meaning Russia will support China even more to keep itself afloat. Where is Russia when China invaded Vietnam in 1979, 1984, 1988 and now?
@jakubblaha4904
@jakubblaha4904 2 ай бұрын
Is it only the older generation who "remembers the good old days" or are the youngsters this delusional too?
@fockewulf190d9
@fockewulf190d9 2 ай бұрын
There is a bigger chance that the US would help Vietnam against China.
@luishernandezblonde
@luishernandezblonde 2 ай бұрын
@@jakubblaha4904 The fact that Vietnam remains the highest pro-Russian country in the world (90% back in 2014 and currently 66%) may have said something about it. State media in Vietnam, controlled by a communist regime, has promoted these views and distorted the reality. It may explain why many Vietnamese have been so shocked when they learnt about the truth of Russia after moving abroad.
@diomuda7903
@diomuda7903 2 ай бұрын
@@jakubblaha4904 Both. Vietnam is a dictatorship with a pro-Russian root. This is why very few Vietnamese are aware of the true nature of Russia. This is why Vietnam is among some of the most pro-Russian nations on earth, although this may change if Russia has become more and more closer to China.
@JRDZ1993
@JRDZ1993 2 ай бұрын
Funnily the Vietnamese government seems more aware and has been pivoting to military cooperation with fellow SEA countries and the US itself
@vladimirmishustin5401
@vladimirmishustin5401 2 ай бұрын
Why talking about the USSR you didn’t show USSR’s map but Russian’s? That’s very confusing, because the USSR-China border was actually much longer than Russia-China!
@ettoreatalan8303
@ettoreatalan8303 2 ай бұрын
This is TLDR's famous attention to detail.
@fiiral5870
@fiiral5870 2 ай бұрын
Well it did show where the claim of China was/is
@SimonFrack
@SimonFrack 2 ай бұрын
⁠​⁠@@fiiral5870Not only did it not include Taiwan, it didn’t even include Hainan. 😂
@Shadowfeather-sb4vc
@Shadowfeather-sb4vc 2 ай бұрын
because Russia was USSR, We rest, resent Russia for their communist and prior Feudalist Emprre.
@TheKL04
@TheKL04 2 ай бұрын
If this is confusing for you, I hope you’re doing better in real life.
@eddietat95
@eddietat95 2 ай бұрын
If a small state like Ukraine can waltz into sovereign Russian territory without getting nuked, why not China which is far superior militarily? Siberian oil is there for the taking. It's only a matter of time before economic conveniences end and strategic interests begin. This friendship is Molotov-Ribbentrop 2.0. The Russians are at war on the wrong part of their border.
@flampagan1994
@flampagan1994 2 ай бұрын
China would expose itself as a paper tiger, it would be like two mobility scooter walmart shoppers fighting.
@pgabrieli
@pgabrieli 2 ай бұрын
@@flampagan1994 at least it would be an even match! 😂😂😂
@spjr99
@spjr99 2 ай бұрын
​@@flampagan1994china is probably the most threatening military force outside of the United States for a land invasion
@monsieurlepresident8835
@monsieurlepresident8835 2 ай бұрын
@@flampagan1994How so? You severly understimate China.
@nerinamak3298
@nerinamak3298 2 ай бұрын
@@monsieurlepresident8835 Imagine having 2 million "little emperors" on the battle field. How long do you they'll last? You overestimate China
@russelljones9207
@russelljones9207 2 ай бұрын
You don't need to sign friendship treaties with countries you're friends with. So many dumb people commenting a 'friendship treaty' is akin to NATO. 🤣 That's a defence treaty, my guys. You might want to look it up, it's kind of a big deal if you live in the west.
@ArawnOfAnnwn
@ArawnOfAnnwn 2 ай бұрын
By that logic I guess the west isn't friends much. Cos they have tons of treaties between them. Cute, but childish. Treaties are actual documents. While you get hung up on the name, they have actual content in them. Mostly trade stuff. They're never just some one-liner kumbaya statement.
@jmhorange
@jmhorange 2 ай бұрын
Yes you do, countries aren't people so they can't have friendships in the normal sense. Thus, you need treaties to spell out exactly the terms of the agreement. If your country thinks it's actually friends with another country, your country is clearly doing geopolitics wrong.
@xelgodis80085
@xelgodis80085 2 ай бұрын
I hate both china and Russia but this is a really fuckin stupid take. What the hell is NATO then? The UN?
@ArawnOfAnnwn
@ArawnOfAnnwn 2 ай бұрын
I guess the west isn't friends much then, as they have plenty of treaties between them.
@ArawnOfAnnwn
@ArawnOfAnnwn 2 ай бұрын
You know western nations have plenty of treaties between themselves as well, right?...
@EclipsePheniox
@EclipsePheniox 2 ай бұрын
I kinda guessed this was the case. While the two are enemies of the west, China is more of an economic and industrial player than Russia. So they don't want to jeopardise that.
@pauldreze3414
@pauldreze3414 2 ай бұрын
Quand on construit trop d'armes le peuple s'appauvrit et le produit national brut aussi. Exemple, la Russie, la Corée du nord, l'iran, la Turquie et les peuples souffrent.
@TheKazragore
@TheKazragore 2 ай бұрын
Especially becaue their economy is having its own problems right now, and China needs its trade with the West more than ever.
@howtocookazombie
@howtocookazombie 2 ай бұрын
@@pauldreze3414 Les États-Unis sont de loin le plus grand producteur d'armes. Votre commentaire est erroné sur le plan des faits. Je ne sais pas qui vous a donné des votes positifs pour cela. The biggest producer of weapons by far is the USA. Your comment is factually wrong. I don't know who gave you upvotes for that.
@bjornborg4849
@bjornborg4849 2 ай бұрын
​@@howtocookazombienot in reality. Only in nominal USD
@howtocookazombie
@howtocookazombie 2 ай бұрын
@@bjornborg4849 Doesn't really matter. My point is that the USA is not a poor country, so this argument is not generally applicable.
@brickhunter9537
@brickhunter9537 2 ай бұрын
Russia: China, we are BFFs now. China: Just send those cheap oil.
@NightSentinel51
@NightSentinel51 2 ай бұрын
Putin: No limit friendship. Xi: No, limit friendship.
@omarchristie3923
@omarchristie3923 2 ай бұрын
That's English for you. A coma make the same set of words mean completely different things
@Arthur_Revan
@Arthur_Revan 2 ай бұрын
@@omarchristie3923 Many languages can do that. Russian ( From a children cartoon ): "казнить нельзя, помиловать" "казнить, нельзя помиловать" Translation: "can't execute, pardon" "execute, can't pardon"
@omarchristie3923
@omarchristie3923 2 ай бұрын
@@Arthur_Revan pretty sure maybe all can but I'm grown to think English is the most sophisticated for some reason. I'm not good a languages btw
@karanaher5030
@karanaher5030 2 ай бұрын
​@@omarchristie3923there are a lot of languages far more sophisticated than english. Infact, i dare say modern english is as globally accepted as it is precisely because of it'd simplicity.
@omarchristie3923
@omarchristie3923 2 ай бұрын
@@karanaher5030 okay
@GYI5U
@GYI5U 2 ай бұрын
I'm gonna give you guys a literary and historical lesson. Traditionally, in china, what the west calls friends is referred to as brothers, 兄弟. The word for friend, meanwhile, is 朋友--the 朋 meaning to symbolise the stringed up coins that was the most common currency in ancient China. So yeah. Friends are transactional in china.
@szymonbaranowski8184
@szymonbaranowski8184 2 ай бұрын
while brotherhood has element of hierarchy and following in it so may be even worse...
@ArawnOfAnnwn
@ArawnOfAnnwn 2 ай бұрын
And the transaction still works for them. It will continue to be worth it as long as the us remains their rival. Common interest, common goal, common transaction.
@schloops8473
@schloops8473 2 ай бұрын
@@ArawnOfAnnwn they will always have enemies as they breed them and need them to justify stealing all the wealth of their countries and abusing their populations
@samuela-aegisdottir
@samuela-aegisdottir 2 ай бұрын
@@szymonbaranowski8184 So true. Czechoslovakia and the Soviet Union were brotherly nations. I meant that the Czchoslovaks had to do what they were told by Moscow. In 1968, the Czechoslovaks wanted a their own version of socialism (called Socialism With Human Face) and Moscow took that pesonally. They invaded Czechoslovakia with the armies of the Warsaw pakt. Then they todl the Czechoslovak people that they have to call the invasion a "brotherly help" and be grateful for it. Who wasn't grateful lost their job or even went to prison.
@gerardovicidomini261
@gerardovicidomini261 2 ай бұрын
Just looks like wiggly scribbles to me, how can you tell?😂
@SuperDanielHUN
@SuperDanielHUN 2 ай бұрын
China is strong, Russia is desperate. China would be dumb not to exploit this relationship.
@fransvangoolen2972
@fransvangoolen2972 2 ай бұрын
The situation is much more complicated.. China does not want to loose Europe as a market.So let's wait and see..the situation is fast changing!
@gups4963
@gups4963 2 ай бұрын
Militarily China might be in 2nd place, economically it is dying right now.
@ChaiSuBin
@ChaiSuBin 2 ай бұрын
​@@gups4963Economically they may not look too good, but i wouldn't listen too much about what youtubers spout. Always take reports with maaaaaany grains of salt.
@otisdylan9532
@otisdylan9532 2 ай бұрын
@@gups4963 China is having economic problems right now, but because their problems are less dire than Russia's, China is strong relative to Russia.
@davidbowie5023
@davidbowie5023 2 ай бұрын
China is vassalising Russia. That's fact.
@namelesske
@namelesske 2 ай бұрын
Friendship had no limits for 6 months 💔💔💔💔
@ivandemko3360
@ivandemko3360 2 ай бұрын
China would never want to elevate Russia. For what?
@ArawnOfAnnwn
@ArawnOfAnnwn 2 ай бұрын
According to who lol? A bunch of Brit dudes? Yeah, real great source. They're farming you lot for content, and you're happily falling for it.
@ivandemko3360
@ivandemko3360 2 ай бұрын
@@ArawnOfAnnwn China is a global power. Russia doesn’t have many trade partners. Why would China want to improvise Russias position in the world? If they are competitors
@frankkobold
@frankkobold 2 ай бұрын
​@@ArawnOfAnnwnoh come one, china is still laying claim to Russian territory as their own. To believe that their "alliance/friendship" is not very limited is ridiculous. You can ofc argue the extent to which it is limited. But I would say, based on the real life actions (not only but like the once mentioned in the video), it's quite obvious that for China it's purely looking out for their own interests. If Putin would pass away today, and the army is being weakend by the political turmoil, I wouldn't be surprised if china would step forward and try to mediate a complete withdrawal of Russian troops
@Nathan-jh1ho
@Nathan-jh1ho 2 ай бұрын
Their eternal friendship between People's lasted around 10 years
@eldrago19
@eldrago19 2 ай бұрын
"What appalling cynicism, Humphrey." "Yes minister, we call it diplomacy."
@gaarakabuto1
@gaarakabuto1 2 ай бұрын
Russia has this thing called "allergy in anything but bullying". I grew up in an area with many refugees from central asia and some of eastern Europe and many of them ended up returning back and getting involved with politics and they all have to say the same thing about Russia. "They dont want to have diplomatic relationship, they want to have the total control". This became prevalent when the invasion started and i started looking in foreign media on how they were reporting the invasion. Kazakhi media for example were mentioning both western and russian propaganda frequently and in many cases they were sympathetic to Ukrainians.
@andrewrogers3067
@andrewrogers3067 2 ай бұрын
Interesting, so you were raised in Russia or somewhere else with many central Asian refugees?
@gaarakabuto1
@gaarakabuto1 2 ай бұрын
@@andrewrogers3067 Greece. To be fair it wasn't just central Asia. There were also Pontiacs and lot and lots of Russians usually from eastern Russia. Almost no moscovite.
@PeterPete
@PeterPete 2 ай бұрын
Same with many other countries like US, UK, France etc all want control!!
@coldpotatoes2556
@coldpotatoes2556 2 ай бұрын
They don't want a relationship they want to have Total control......that would be the hegemon America fool.
@notusneo
@notusneo 2 ай бұрын
​@@coldpotatoes2556 two things can be true at once, so stop doing whataboutism
@landmimes
@landmimes 2 ай бұрын
1. **Historical Tensions and Strategic Partnership** (00:00 - 02:09): - China and Russia (formerly the Soviet Union) had significant tensions during the Cold War, including border disputes and differing foreign policies. Post-Soviet collapse, their relationship improved, leading to the 2001 Treaty of Good-Neighborliness and Friendly Cooperation, reflecting a strategic partnership. 2. **Economic Dependence Post-Ukraine Invasion** (02:43 - 04:16): - Russia's invasion of Ukraine and subsequent decoupling from the West increased its economic reliance on China. China remains Russia's largest trading partner, though it has carefully navigated its support, wary of international backlash and sanctions. 3. **Gas Pricing Dispute** (04:45 - 05:49): - Tensions have surfaced due to a dispute over gas pricing. China is pushing for low prices for Russian gas, leveraging Russia’s need for an export market after losing European buyers. This has delayed the construction of the Power of Siberia 2 pipeline. 4. **China's Reluctance to Evade Sanctions** (05:49 - 06:20): - Chinese banks have become increasingly hesitant to help Russia evade Western sanctions, with most refusing to process Russian payments. This shift is partially due to recalibrated sanctions aimed at deterring Chinese entities from aiding Russia. 5. **Allegations of Chinese Cyber Espionage** (06:51 - 07:22): - Reports have emerged of Chinese state-backed hackers targeting Russian government systems, suggesting that the Sino-Russian relationship might be more of a pragmatic alliance rather than a genuine friendship, with both nations prioritizing their own interests.
@zuckoVAL
@zuckoVAL 2 ай бұрын
chatgpt ahh comment
@eddyr1041
@eddyr1041 2 ай бұрын
Like history repeats.... All of global south plus sovyet rusia always do that....
@puraLusa
@puraLusa 2 ай бұрын
ur n5 is the universal rule, it's always been so since the 2 1st civil align or made treaties, it isn't a sono-russia exclusive.
@jotarokujo9164
@jotarokujo9164 2 ай бұрын
In Central Asia, we have a clear resentment of Russia and China due to the devastation they left on us. But if we have to choose who is going to do business, we would choose China. This said a lot about Russia's status.
@absentmindedshirokuma8539
@absentmindedshirokuma8539 2 ай бұрын
Same with SEA. They have lot beef with US, but now even vietnam prefer to work with US, then China, and then Russia.
@andresfelipeod6819
@andresfelipeod6819 2 ай бұрын
same happens in LatinAmerica, most goberments preffer trade with China, that trade with the U.S. and their "political conditions"
@BWhit-ni5uc
@BWhit-ni5uc 2 ай бұрын
Yeah the Middle East an south east Asia west Asia an South America despise the Americans.
@lionrock2023
@lionrock2023 2 ай бұрын
@@absentmindedshirokuma8539 America only loves those whose ass america has kicked. Just ask France. America can't love Vietnam, because the Vietnam war was anything but an ass kicking by the US. Just ask Germany or Italy, or Canada, or Mexico, or the UK.
@TheEGrievous
@TheEGrievous 2 ай бұрын
Russia seems to have left a lot of devastation in their own country as well.
@mladen5140
@mladen5140 2 ай бұрын
01:05 you guys shouldve changed it to the Soviet map for a bit there
@paulluka2029
@paulluka2029 2 ай бұрын
Very good observation I hope they don't make the same mistake next time
@lb1823
@lb1823 2 ай бұрын
They're realistically using Geolayers to make those animations and it doesn't have the Soviet Union borders. They could import custom borders but honestly it's not subtracting a lot from the meaning of the video
@mladen5140
@mladen5140 2 ай бұрын
@@lb1823 in order to recreate the Soviet Borders they can just add the old Soviet republics which are now countries
@solsunman383
@solsunman383 2 ай бұрын
@@lb1823 It wouldn't have taken much to also highlight Central Asia, Transcaucasia etc. Afterall, these states still largely use the old Soviet borders.
@anathardayaldar
@anathardayaldar 2 ай бұрын
"Want a friend? Get a dog." - Gordon Gekko
@spjr99
@spjr99 2 ай бұрын
Adding that to my toolbox
@demaciasolos
@demaciasolos Ай бұрын
@@spjr99Must be those cheap tools you get at Harbor Freight for like 99c
@demaciasolos
@demaciasolos Ай бұрын
@anathardayaldar Dogs aren’t friends, just property. What you meant to say is don’t invade sovereign nations. That’s a very rude thing to do! 😂
@zukritzeln
@zukritzeln 2 ай бұрын
The Chinese can hold a grudge for a very, very long time. Remember Russia annexed a large part of Chinese territory in the north east. Recently, a new Chinese map claimed this territory as part of China, not Russia. China does not consider Russia a friend, merely an ally of convenience.
@yf4044
@yf4044 2 ай бұрын
"a new Chinese map claimed this territory as part of China", source? You like to make up random stuff do you?
@Ravi9A
@Ravi9A 2 ай бұрын
Yeah, and as long as west exists, it's convenient
@MrHattley
@MrHattley 2 ай бұрын
​@@yf4044 You can Google it. They are publicly claiming large swathes of territory and Putin hasn't said anything about it.
@roeci6
@roeci6 2 ай бұрын
​@@yf4044it's true , but it's just a small island near somme water not sommething major .
@3alanking38
@3alanking38 2 ай бұрын
@@yf4044 I just did a simple search, and you didnt bother to do that just to accuse a comment of making up random stuff? Typical
@amalgamated-
@amalgamated- 2 ай бұрын
Ultimately because as of late china sees Russia is losing this war.
@monsieurlepresident8835
@monsieurlepresident8835 2 ай бұрын
@user-su5mq6ow6othey think that if it’s not a blitzkrieg war you loose
@gordonwilkinson5041
@gordonwilkinson5041 2 ай бұрын
I doub't that
@gordonwilkinson5041
@gordonwilkinson5041 2 ай бұрын
@user-su5mq6ow6o Boris Johnson, Starmer, Joe Biden, I don't agree with them though.
@otisdylan9532
@otisdylan9532 2 ай бұрын
@user-su5mq6ow6o In a sense, Russia and Ukraine are both losing, because the war is harming both countries.
@xiphoid2011
@xiphoid2011 2 ай бұрын
China's economy has been struggling for the last few years, as I keep hearing from my relatives in Shanghai. There is quite a bit of discontent in the society due to the hardship, unemployed youth. Beijing doesn't need Moscow to cause them more headaches right now, like getting more chinese companies sanctioned.
@Puschit1
@Puschit1 Ай бұрын
And there is a huge speculation bubble bursting, all those savings in real estate that hasn't even been built yet and nobody can afford to live in. Evergrande is liquidated while we are writing comments and untold thousands of investors lose most if not all of their savings in the process. Others will follow.
@blazer9547
@blazer9547 2 ай бұрын
Geographically they are always potential enemies or atleast rivals
@Mesopotamia-v6d
@Mesopotamia-v6d 2 ай бұрын
Thanks to the USA they are not enemies YET
@ArawnOfAnnwn
@ArawnOfAnnwn 2 ай бұрын
They're nothing of the sort as long as the US surrounds them both. You're holding them together, and continue to do so.
@Apocalypse2000
@Apocalypse2000 2 ай бұрын
Surrounds? USA border with China too now?​@@ArawnOfAnnwn
@MRoROBOT
@MRoROBOT 2 ай бұрын
​@@ArawnOfAnnwnin the end the us is still hatf a word apart from them
@oliversherman2414
@oliversherman2414 2 ай бұрын
Russia and China haven't really been "allies" since the Sino-Soviet split during the Cold War. It's been more of a "the enemy of my enemy is my friend" situation since then. But even that's seemingly on the line
@JustAnotherAccount8
@JustAnotherAccount8 2 ай бұрын
Is it at all shocking? They're both expansionist powers, of course their "friendship" would be short lived. This isn't even mentioning how starkly different the cultures are, their histories, their languages, their interests etc. They couldn't be more different. There's a reason why western alliances tend to last longer: cultural homogeneity. The further east an alliance goes, the more tenuous the alliance is. Countries like the UK, USA, Australia, New Zealand and Canada for instance will likely be friends for the foreseeable future thanks to a shared culture and history.
@mgronich948
@mgronich948 2 ай бұрын
The relation between the US and Europe is like the relationship between Rome and its extended empire. Europe is now suffering economically because it's following US sanctions against Russia. But the Roman empire lasted 100's of years.
@kev792
@kev792 2 ай бұрын
@@mgronich948Europe is stagnating because of different reasons. Birth rate, productivity growth, less innovation, etc. Europe is experiencing energy issues due to their over reliance on Russian oil , but it isn’t the reason why Europe has been stagnating for the last 5-10 years or so.
@kamilkozowski105
@kamilkozowski105 2 ай бұрын
Then explain Japan, Taiwan and South Korea
@solar0wind
@solar0wind 2 ай бұрын
​​@@kamilkozowski105 Not an expert, but I'd say it's because they aren't too different from the West in certain aspects. They're all democratic, unreligous, capitalist countries, too small to really try to become superpowers in their own rights (not that Japan didn't try), but also threatened by actual superpowers (mainly China), so they need to rely on the US for protection. If you're dependent on someone, you'll try to stay on good terms with them.
@Haijwsyz51846
@Haijwsyz51846 Ай бұрын
You are very naive. Europeans don’t like the us, but us bases are all over there. In a way, Europe has to be friendly to the USA.
@982-o4e
@982-o4e Ай бұрын
Well lets take a map of the 19th century and you will know exactly why the two will never truely get along.
@geofflepper3207
@geofflepper3207 2 ай бұрын
It apparently wasn't a very good strategy for Putin to throw away Russia's biggest, closest and most reliable customer and then go to Xi begging and pleading and saying, "Please, please help me. I've got a vast amount of extra natural gas to unload and nobody to sell it to and I'm desperate to aell it because i really, really need money for a stupid war that I started in Ukraine. If I lose this war I will have destroyed Russia in the process and made myself the laughingstock of the world". Hardly a strong bargaining position for Putin. And he chose to put himself in that position.
@mgronich948
@mgronich948 2 ай бұрын
Russia didn't throw away it's biggest customer. The US removed its biggest customer. We bombed Nord Stream as a lesson to Germany. The US provoked a proxy war. The US has decided to make both Russia and China to be enemies at the same time. Not a smart thing to do.
@petergreen5337
@petergreen5337 2 ай бұрын
More NONSENSE
@antiquorumaugustus8200
@antiquorumaugustus8200 2 ай бұрын
@@petergreen5337 Lol, what nonsense? Russia's economy is small than Italy, they are nothing to China economically speaking. The only thing that keep Russia somewhat releveant is its nuclear arsenal and natural ressources.
@Lord_Pilaf
@Lord_Pilaf 2 ай бұрын
"If I lose this war" As if Russia hasn't already won the war. More Western liberal cope 😂
@loremipsum2637
@loremipsum2637 2 ай бұрын
Alliance of Principles > Alliance of Convenience
@humphreywu8885
@humphreywu8885 2 ай бұрын
Lol principles of what? White superiority or colonialism?
@solar0wind
@solar0wind 2 ай бұрын
​@@humphreywu8885 Taiwan, Japan, and South Korea are US allies, and last I checked, they're neither white nor western colonizers. I'm saying "western" here because people who whine about colonialism only care about it if the West did it, not if countries like Russia and China are still doing it. So try again.
@ralfadenuga
@ralfadenuga 2 ай бұрын
@@solar0wind They are an alliance for convenience for protection.
@genovayork2468
@genovayork2468 2 ай бұрын
​@@solar0wind Their alliance is of convenience lmao.
@nashwise4everGM
@nashwise4everGM 2 ай бұрын
​@@solar0wind Japan was an empire before they accepted US as belligerent hegemon, and yes they tried to have their own colonies before they were ultimately defeated in WW2. The concept of the west has been changing a lot, Japan and SK is part of the west while the rest that aren't align is consider as the "Global South" according to people in World Economic Forum. Before this Japan is consider as Axis of Evil while the USSR (Russia) is friend against the evil Axis empire. The reason why people call this "Alliance of Principle" is white supremacy and settler colonialism is because "allies" like Japan and SK is part of the cog that support the war in the Middle East without saying no to anything that the US request. America has been adventuring so many times in Korea, Vietnam, Chile, Iraq, Afghanistan and Syria for very long time hence why people are very critical of American Imperialism. Don't get me wrong China and Russia do have expanding like in Tibet and recently Ukraine but compare to what America did to maintain as hegemon, it's laughable. Of course people will talk about American Imperialism more given the amount of nation and country that US destroy through regime change and war. The world is not black and white and people who criticizes the west aren't aware that China and Russia doing the same. It's just that we outspoken about the west because of the hypocrisy that the west is the empire of good while those who against it is evil.
@kgman2635
@kgman2635 2 ай бұрын
As someone who spent over a month in china 2 months ago I will say that the Chinese public overwhelmingly have a positive opinion on Russia. I can’t speak for the CPC of course but Russian shops and even in their military museums have a section showing their relationship with Russia is clear that the public is much more with Russia than the government is.
@davidbowie5023
@davidbowie5023 2 ай бұрын
The Chinese aren't that foolish like the Russians. They are pragmatists. We will have to see what's next.
@dalin-m9q
@dalin-m9q 2 ай бұрын
yes,I really like Russia because in history, Russia has helped us
@廖博
@廖博 2 ай бұрын
美国同时在世界上竖立了三个对手,导致这三个国家发展息息相关,随着美国国内内部压力过大,他会向外部施加的压力也会更大。这将更加导致这三个国家更加紧密,这其实是必然的.没有任何一个国家能独立对抗以美国为首的北约国家,冷战结束后的美苏对抗现在变成了北约与中国,俄罗斯,伊朗的对抗。
@廖博
@廖博 2 ай бұрын
@@davidbowie5023 其实后面的对抗会越来越严重.美国内部压力增大,需要向外释放压力,缓解国内局势,使得中国,俄罗斯以及伊朗形成更加紧密的关系。这几乎成了必然的局面了。
@davidbowie5023
@davidbowie5023 2 ай бұрын
@@廖博 I disagree. China has plenty of necessary interests. It has nothing to gain from an annoying Russia.
@bannork
@bannork 2 ай бұрын
1.05 I didn't realise the Chinese empire's capital was based north west of Mumbai
@Clock_Man_2763
@Clock_Man_2763 2 ай бұрын
Russia: “So, are we best friends?” China: “Well yes, but actually no”
@SgtKaneGunlock
@SgtKaneGunlock 2 ай бұрын
that tends to happens when you invade one of their trade partners
@martinsportfoto2423
@martinsportfoto2423 2 ай бұрын
At 0:25 "... then Xi and Putin sometime makes out" - That put a rather uncomfortable image in my head 😀
@tessacarstairs5998
@tessacarstairs5998 2 ай бұрын
noooo I can't unhear that anymore
@gerardovicidomini261
@gerardovicidomini261 2 ай бұрын
Image? I have an image, the way things stand at present, I’m 💯% sure who’s the giver and who’s the taker. Putin would come out of that little exchange needing to clean his shirt collar.LMFAO!🎉 Edit:Sorry Tessa! Hahahaha.
@Tempest_Murder
@Tempest_Murder 2 ай бұрын
Ah yes, Putin learning the hard way there is no good ending in the Xi Ji Ping dating sim.
@JohnnyChronic18
@JohnnyChronic18 2 ай бұрын
People forget Russia was part of the century of humiliation. A big part. Chinese people did not forget. But they are pragmatic so if Russia is useful they will use them otherwise they like watching them suffer.
@mgronich948
@mgronich948 2 ай бұрын
Wishful thinking. The US is sending 120B/yr to kill Russians. The US is setting up the Phillipines and S. Korea (along with Taiwan) for future proxy wars against China and Ukraine 2.0/3.0. What happened 100 years ago doesn't matter compared to what's happening now and in the next 5 years.
@Erime
@Erime 2 ай бұрын
This is an underrated comment. Russia was part of the Eight Nations Alliance that treated China like a personal playground (literally called 'The Great Game') and there are photos easily searchable online of Russian soldiers with their flag in the Forbidden City dated to 1901. The West has since moved on beyond imperial inclinations... but one country from that old alliance has not.... RUSSIA!
@monaliza3334
@monaliza3334 2 ай бұрын
Who saved -Chinese- in 1945, from Japanese invasion? Rapid after me... -USSR- ...
@ShubhamMishrabro
@ShubhamMishrabro 2 ай бұрын
West helped china too. Which led to japan getting sanctioned which led to japan starting pacific war​@@monaliza3334
@netiturtle
@netiturtle 2 ай бұрын
Outer Manchuria was by far the biggest territory lost, and this happened by Russia just showing up and saying "we want this". Didn't even need to fight for it
@markTheWoodlands
@markTheWoodlands 2 ай бұрын
Delightful. A solid analysis - without any clickbait in the title. Excellent work.
@jacksmith-mu3ee
@jacksmith-mu3ee 2 ай бұрын
Source trust me bro
@randomcon123
@randomcon123 2 ай бұрын
There’s never really been real friendship between these two powers but the enemy’s enemy is always kinda a friend
@MoempfLP
@MoempfLP 2 ай бұрын
"Nations have no permanent friends and no permanent enemies, only permanent interests." China has already adapted their economic system away from strict socialism and allows some free trade. China will not risk an economic backlash to stand by Russia. The "limitless friendship" will only last as long as the perks overweigh the drawbacks.
@demaciasolos
@demaciasolos Ай бұрын
Not true at all. Tons of nations have had genuinely amiable alliances for literal centuries. You don’t know what you’re talking about.
@stefanmatthiascornelius526
@stefanmatthiascornelius526 2 ай бұрын
Why would you put the flag next to the country instead if inside the country? I thought for a second that the map was wrong, when the Soviet Union was depicted inside of Europe.
@iambicpentakill971
@iambicpentakill971 2 ай бұрын
For a second I thought that something was up with India
@SpaderB13
@SpaderB13 2 ай бұрын
I hope they work things out, I really hate seeing friends fight 😕
@dacelikethefish587
@dacelikethefish587 Ай бұрын
These info graphics are very well done.
@Ai-he1dp
@Ai-he1dp 2 ай бұрын
Quietly?...its just all over the internet!...
@THE_Quiz_Channel2412
@THE_Quiz_Channel2412 2 ай бұрын
BRICS is cooking (but nobody is hungry)
@CakePrincessCelestia
@CakePrincessCelestia 2 ай бұрын
When you see it... you'll $#!+ BRICS!
@miguelservetus9534
@miguelservetus9534 2 ай бұрын
As annoying as the US can be, the stability of the US dollar has contributed to the incredible global economic growth. While this brings unique benefits to the US, it has never directly manipulated the dollar. Rather unique n world Econ history. As Russia and China are command economies, and manipulate their currency frequently, no one can really trust the BRIC like they do the dollar. It gives the US power which is annoying but stability is wealth.
@Kodakcompactdisc
@Kodakcompactdisc 2 ай бұрын
PRICS
@andresfelipeod6819
@andresfelipeod6819 2 ай бұрын
BRICS is the another choice. so United States loose the monopoly of bullying. this politics of 80 years dictate the rest of the world "you do business as my way, or you will suffer" has ended. And is not about being hungry, is about to have the Freedom of Choose , and United States are no longer the only Choice. they are now, a Choice among others choices.
@OluseniIsaacs
@OluseniIsaacs 2 ай бұрын
Africa is hungry
@thatKQ
@thatKQ 2 ай бұрын
1:26 The biggest factor was uncertainty. Since the new soviet goverment said that there is no more class warfare in USSR, and installed, in the Warsaw pact, new goverments loyal to the new rulling clique. China feared that soom they will leave the path of socialism and become a capitalist Russia of today. China was industralizing and not ready to fight with the west, and their north.
@TitsMcGee-c1v
@TitsMcGee-c1v 2 ай бұрын
Good stuff, mate. Very good quality and solid sources of information. Only thing is the light in your room. It's too dark.
@megapangolin1093
@megapangolin1093 2 ай бұрын
Great video as always. I learn so much so quickly. Well done.
@stereomachine
@stereomachine 2 ай бұрын
The "Zhee" pronunciation is back... It's pronounced basically like "she". It's a much thinner "sh" sound, but "she" is perfectly fine.
@nathanpiazza9644
@nathanpiazza9644 2 ай бұрын
The Zhee pronunciation is so wild and unhinged I LOVE IT. Like yes, just wildly insert a random sound into the name instead of just listening to it once, don't let anyone tell you you're wrong! 👏👏👏
@stereomachine
@stereomachine 2 ай бұрын
@@nathanpiazza9644 I've seen them previously address it by claiming to just give up on it, but considering it is now widely established in the English-speaking world to just pronounce it "She" there's no excuse for it now. "She Jin ping" is fine, not hard to pronounce, and minimally distracting to the most amount of people.
@jasper5902
@jasper5902 2 ай бұрын
It's more like a sea or see sound but yes ill accept it
@masterchinese28
@masterchinese28 2 ай бұрын
I cringe every time I hear them pronounce it as "Ji Xinping."
@justskip4595
@justskip4595 2 ай бұрын
Well, he keeps calling Hamas Hämäs, bluffed/deceived in Finnish. He really seems to like to use the Ä vowel (Like in cat, bat, sad) compared to A like in car.
@kolviczd6885
@kolviczd6885 2 ай бұрын
The title should be " How the West Wished Russia and China Are Quietly Fallen Out". 😂😂
@iambicpentakill971
@iambicpentakill971 2 ай бұрын
How's that pipeline coming?
@davidbowie5023
@davidbowie5023 2 ай бұрын
Russia is weakened and will have to appease the Chinese even more if it wants to stay afloat, that's what the partnership between China and Russia stands for. It also means Russia will be reduced to the role of a puppet for China. This scenario is clearly dangerous for India now. How long will it take for Indians to understand that Russia is now secretly supporting China?
@szymonbaranowski8184
@szymonbaranowski8184 2 ай бұрын
you really downplay KGB that owns Russia lol if you think they will be puppets to anyone you are really oblivious
@ArawnOfAnnwn
@ArawnOfAnnwn 2 ай бұрын
No the partnership is because of the west, and will remain because of the west. You drove them together, and are keeping them together. India doesn't need to do anything, it's already being courted by the US while maintaining ties with a more historically reliable ally. It also has the 4th most powerful military precisely because it doesn't rely on others. Who should it turn to? The ones who sanctioned it before? Who sent ships to threaten it before? Yeah right. They know Russia and China are close, but they also know what the west is like. You don't.
@Mr.Monta77
@Mr.Monta77 2 ай бұрын
Indian politicians are extremely naive to think Russia will help them. Modi’s brother ‘president’ Putin will happily drag India down with him. Putin is getting desperate and if you think his loyality is to be trusted, I have a magic bean I can sell you. Poor India, buying russian arms. How gullible can you get?
@mgronich948
@mgronich948 2 ай бұрын
Is India really so anti-CHina? If India were not so "publicly" anti china, US would have slapped huge sanctions on India increasing their purchase of Russian oil by 1000%. Maybe by "pretending" to be an enemy of CHina, India is making 100 billion/yr of profits from Russian oil.
@mgronich948
@mgronich948 2 ай бұрын
India assasinated a Canadian Sikh and attempted two assasinations in the US.
@firstkings99
@firstkings99 2 ай бұрын
Excellent reporting
@lawyupang
@lawyupang 2 ай бұрын
Friends don't need to have the same view on everything nor one need to sacrifice everything for the other side. BRICS nations are all players from same level. They negotiate and make deals from their own nation's interest. It may sound weird to the West. The West accustom to US as the leader and dictate and force other "allies" to act in a particular way, even if the action is against their own national interest.
@luishernandezblonde
@luishernandezblonde 2 ай бұрын
Yes, an equal relationship in the BRICS style, like how China made nationalist maps demanding Indian and Russian lands, how Russia is backing China against India, to how India is looking to isolate China. It sounds weird for Chinese, but not for observers.
@Globalinsiderofficial
@Globalinsiderofficial 2 ай бұрын
I just love the comments.....full of armchair generals😂😂😂
@matthewhuszarik4173
@matthewhuszarik4173 2 ай бұрын
It isn’t like real Generals are ever any more accurate in their assessments. Ukraine would last week at best? Japan would take the Panama Canal and Hawaii.
@countbenjamin1442
@countbenjamin1442 2 ай бұрын
China doesnt want to have to choose between US money and Russian money.
@nicocrestmere9688
@nicocrestmere9688 2 ай бұрын
What Russian money? The rouble is worthless and Europe has frozen or stolen Russias best assets😊
@BLOODKINGbro
@BLOODKINGbro 2 ай бұрын
Thier gold not any better
@josephweir6754
@josephweir6754 Ай бұрын
Super interesting, thank you!
@hansSnah-x9f
@hansSnah-x9f 2 ай бұрын
Nonsens! They need eachother. I support the comment that countries don´t have friends, but interests.
@slidetopoweroff
@slidetopoweroff 2 ай бұрын
They should work it out on a remix.
@JenniferLucas-o7p
@JenniferLucas-o7p Ай бұрын
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@GurusharanDas
@GurusharanDas Ай бұрын
Yes me too
@GurusharanDas
@GurusharanDas Ай бұрын
How did you earn such
@JenniferLucas-o7p
@JenniferLucas-o7p Ай бұрын
She's active on What's Apk
@JenniferLucas-o7p
@JenniferLucas-o7p Ай бұрын
Using the digit below
@JenniferLucas-o7p
@JenniferLucas-o7p Ай бұрын
She communicates on WHAT S A P P on the digits below>
@Frjttr
@Frjttr 2 ай бұрын
Keep up the great work you're doing. But be always careful.
@DuxSupremus
@DuxSupremus 2 ай бұрын
"Then in the '70s, when Cold War tensions were at their peak..." Cold War tensions were highest in 1983, and more generally from 1980-1985. 1983 was the most dangerous year in history, easily eclipsing the Cuban Missile Crisis.
@cl8804
@cl8804 2 ай бұрын
funny; i thought brilliant's the best way of learning
@CMVeal
@CMVeal 2 ай бұрын
With China building solar power plants and EVs, their need for gas in decreasing. China is also exporting EVs globally. That decreases the need for gas as a global commodity. In short, China is actively taking actions on a global stage that will permanently reduce Russian power.
@overthinkingintrovert396
@overthinkingintrovert396 2 ай бұрын
Yes. China is taking steps that'll reduce evryone's power relative to china. They believe they're too big to require partners. I'm afraid they might be right
@davidbowie5023
@davidbowie5023 2 ай бұрын
China has a large population, so it will need Russian resources. And Russia is in no position to deal with China.
@davianoinglesias5030
@davianoinglesias5030 2 ай бұрын
😅😅The Chinese hackers hacking into Russian banks are probably 10 yr old kids practising for their end of year exam. Russia at this point is just a Zimbabwe with nukes
@howardmctroy3303
@howardmctroy3303 2 ай бұрын
Does anyone else know about the Sino-Soviet split? In the last two decades of the Cold War, you literally had self-proclaimed communists fighting other self-proclaimed communists in Cambodia, Afghanistan, and the Horn of Africa.
@angiewoodward4166
@angiewoodward4166 2 ай бұрын
Very good content!
@blazer9547
@blazer9547 2 ай бұрын
😂😂 brics coming real strong
@eduwino151
@eduwino151 2 ай бұрын
the good old days of BRICS taking over any day now
@krisshnapeswanipeswani3190
@krisshnapeswanipeswani3190 2 ай бұрын
India is definatky not a teu wbrics meber. We are closer to America thanks to immigration and shared culture integration. We will always stand by fwllow democieabin the end
@ArawnOfAnnwn
@ArawnOfAnnwn 2 ай бұрын
According to who lol? A bunch of Brit dudes? Yeah, real great source. They're farming you lot for content, and you're happily falling for it.
@ArawnOfAnnwn
@ArawnOfAnnwn 2 ай бұрын
@@krisshnapeswanipeswani3190 Bhai we haven't done that. For good reason. That 'fellow democracy' has sanctioned us before. Has sent its navy to threaten us before. Has backed our principal rival all the way until recently. We don't forget.
@flavio7180
@flavio7180 2 ай бұрын
The Dollar will lose it' status as the global currency any minute now 🤣.
@de132
@de132 2 ай бұрын
I think anyone with half a brain could ascertain that China's relationship to Russia is "transactional". Every nation's relationship with another nation is transactional.
@ArawnOfAnnwn
@ArawnOfAnnwn 2 ай бұрын
The transaction still works tho, and will continue to as long as the US remains a problem for both of them. Which it is.
@de132
@de132 2 ай бұрын
@@ArawnOfAnnwn I think I told you this earlier, so I'll just copy-paste "That's not necessarily true. It's all about where interests lie and why interests lie in those places. China could maintain its adversarial relationship with the United States while also developing an impasse with Russia or China and the United States' relationship could improve while China maintains its transactional relationship with Russia or Russia and the United States' relationship could improve while China and Russia's relationship maintains status quo. It's presumptive and Western centric to assume that all diplomatic and trade relations between countries are always oriented based on their relationships with the United States."
@merrymachiavelli2041
@merrymachiavelli2041 2 ай бұрын
Eh, I wouldn't agree that every nation's relationship with another is 'transactional', on one level that's true, but there are countries which are tied together in 'soft' terms by language, culture, religion and/or ethnicity, and in 'hard' terms by webs of multilateral and bilateral agreements. This makes it likely that in the event on a conflict of interests, both sides will take a long-term view, because short term gains aren't worth jeopardising the relationship and (amongst democracies) wouldn't be popular with the public. For example, the US and Canada have about have a dozen border disputes, if the US really wanted to, it could mobilise it's military and seize all the areas it claims forcefully within a month or two. But it's not going to do that, because pissing off a close ally with whom you cooperate in so many other areas wouldn't be worth it. Hard realism doesn't really work when it comes to explaining intergovernmental relationships between close allies. China and Russia are not close allies in the same way the US and Canada, or the Netherlands and Belgium or Sweden and Norway...etc. are.
@SgtKaneGunlock
@SgtKaneGunlock 2 ай бұрын
@@ArawnOfAnnwn you made the exact same reply to another comment...
@samuela-aegisdottir
@samuela-aegisdottir 2 ай бұрын
No, not every nations' relationship are transactional. Nations can align based on their shared values as well. And those alliances are usually stronger than the transactional ones. A very nice example is the reaction of EU when Russia started its fullscale invasion in Ukraine. EU was dependant on Russian gas and everyone knew that losing access to it would harm both industries and household in a terrible a way. Putin assumed that EU would never risk such a thing and never imposed the promised sanctions. But EU's solidarity with the wrongfully atacked nation was greater than its fear from cold winter and economic struggles. It imposed harsh sanctions exactly as it had promised and when Russia stopped the gas supplies, EU did not back away. The resulting damage to households and industries was not as harsh as expected, but it was very harsh anyway, it exacerbated the living cost crisis and seriously damaged economic growth. EU citizens, companies and governments were ready to suffer and did suffer to stand up to their values, to punish Putin for the war and detter him from further escalation and to show solidarity with Ukraine. This wasn't transactional. This was a clear example that values are, for some people, much more than money.
@federicomazzali7380
@federicomazzali7380 2 ай бұрын
Yes, Sovereign government usually put their own interest first, I know that's a shocker for some Europeans that pretend that genuflecting to america is "friendship"
@RZakelis
@RZakelis 2 ай бұрын
Yes, much more better to pretend independent anti American, and at the same time use American KZbin, on American Iphone, while eating in American McDonald and wearing American Nike sneakers :)
@federicomazzali7380
@federicomazzali7380 2 ай бұрын
@@RZakelis What an interesting argument, let's not ignore the fact that : 1) the American state didn't create these things, hell most of the things you mentioned aren't even made by american people. 2) Even if you disagree with the foreign policies of a country that doesn't mean you can't use the products of said country, let's say you don't like the gov of S. Arabia, does that mean you can't use Saudi Aramco's oil? You are so accustomed to being under the boot that you began to enjoy it, stop being so spineless.
@RZakelis
@RZakelis 2 ай бұрын
@federicomazzali7380 Simple fact is that USA is the most influential country in all areas:economically, militarily, technologically, culturally, etc.. Do you like it or not, it's a fact.
@uss-dh7909
@uss-dh7909 2 ай бұрын
I distinctly recall the Germans laughing at Trump when he commented on how they shouldn't be so dependent on a sole provider, namely Russia for their energy and gas supply. Thank God that nature was on their side and they purchased enough supply and didn't freeze over that winter. At the best of times they're "agreeable". A far, far cry from "genuflecting".
@bboykabir2
@bboykabir2 2 ай бұрын
0:42 TLDR giving relationship advice i'm here for it❤
@dorkusmaximus3033
@dorkusmaximus3033 2 ай бұрын
Thanks!
@ottomanosman2463
@ottomanosman2463 2 ай бұрын
I heard one old story that when China invaded Vietnam in 1979, the Vietnamese hoped that their military pact with the Soviet Union signed years earler would mean the Soviets would fight China. But after a month, nothing happened and the Soviets did not intervene. Now I understand what kind of nation Russia has been for centuries. No wonder why they have no problem allying with China.
@ArawnOfAnnwn
@ArawnOfAnnwn 2 ай бұрын
Bub the whole thing was over in about a month. The 1979 war was nothing like the 20 years of American war there. That caused far more devastation, and in that war Ru did help (as did China for that matter).
@ottomanosman2463
@ottomanosman2463 2 ай бұрын
@@ArawnOfAnnwn Russia did not help. They sent weapons, but not sending troops to fight. Sending weapons did not equal to providing soldiers.
@sussus3288
@sussus3288 2 ай бұрын
​@@ottomanosman2463 By that logic, the US and EU haven't been helping Ukraine either as they're only sending weapons as well.
@anjafark
@anjafark 2 ай бұрын
​@@sussus3288That's exactly what it is right now. Despite russian propaganda ...
@ottomanosman2463
@ottomanosman2463 2 ай бұрын
@@sussus3288 What do you think when Russia threatened using A-bombs in Ukraine if Western troops stepped in? The West is aware of what to expect when Russia threatened with A-bombs, plus Ukraine is not a NATO member, something not similar to the way Vietnam signed a military pact with Russia.
@dulio12385
@dulio12385 2 ай бұрын
Putin realized those backrubs from Xi were getting too touchy feely 🤣
@BillDavies-ej6ye
@BillDavies-ej6ye 2 ай бұрын
Feeling for where the ribs are.
@LeanneGodfried-jp5uh
@LeanneGodfried-jp5uh 2 ай бұрын
@@BillDavies-ej6yeyou mean the 1 rib between Putin’s thighs. Xi knows where to rub.
@darthplagueis3488
@darthplagueis3488 2 ай бұрын
@@BillDavies-ej6ye Also feeling for the pressure points on the human body
@andrewharper3165
@andrewharper3165 2 ай бұрын
Countries don't have friends, only interests.
@pgabrieli
@pgabrieli 2 ай бұрын
quoting beau of the fifth column, aren't we? ❤
@samuela-aegisdottir
@samuela-aegisdottir 2 ай бұрын
No, not every countries' relationship are transactional. Countries can align based on their shared values as well. And those alliances are usually stronger than the transactional ones. A very nice example is the reaction of EU when Russia started its fullscale invasion in Ukraine. EU was dependant on Russian gas and everyone knew that losing access to it would harm both industries and household in a terrible a way. Putin assumed that EU would never risk such a thing and never imposed the promised sanctions. But EU's solidarity with the wrongfully atacked nation was greater than its fear from cold winter and economic struggles. It imposed harsh sanctions exactly as it had promised and when Russia stopped the gas supplies, EU did not back away. The resulting damage to households and industries was not as harsh as expected, but it was very harsh anyway, it exacerbated the living cost crisis and seriously damaged economic growth. EU citizens, companies and governments were ready to suffer and did suffer to stand up to their values, to punish Putin for the war and detter him from further escalation and to show solidarity with Ukraine. This wasn't transactional. This was a clear example that values are, for some people, much more than money.
@rikibowbo627
@rikibowbo627 2 ай бұрын
Once a friend is always a friend
@Basieeee
@Basieeee 2 ай бұрын
Ayy good video, packs a bunch of information.
@AnarchoAmericium
@AnarchoAmericium 2 ай бұрын
Oh how the turn tables...
@FuriousImp
@FuriousImp 2 ай бұрын
Nice reference! I love The Office
@demaciasolos
@demaciasolos Ай бұрын
@@FuriousImpNo you don’t. Be honest that shoe is cringy and not in a funny way either 😂
@FuriousImp
@FuriousImp Ай бұрын
@@demaciasolos Are you one of those people that has zero ability to understand that there is a world outside of their own? Are you unable to understand that tastes and preferences are different for other people? Or are you just trying to troll, getting a kick out of trying to emotionally upset another human being? Which again shows your lack of empathy. You're gross.
@tancreddehauteville764
@tancreddehauteville764 2 ай бұрын
China is big enough not to need friends. And there are still major unresolved border issues - China wants outer Manchuria back, which includes all of the Amur region, and also wants to reincorporate outer Mongolia, which has been in the Russian orbit since the 1920s.
@mgronich948
@mgronich948 2 ай бұрын
China's 1st and only concern is the US for the next 50 yrs.
@akeeriksson84
@akeeriksson84 2 ай бұрын
EU have 500 million consumers USA have 340 million consumers. China do not want to loose them.
@Mr.Monta77
@Mr.Monta77 2 ай бұрын
That’s 100% true. And that’s why we must boycott all chinese products. Only way to keep China’s aggression in check. See how they operate in the Pacific! Horrible country.
@Kaybossboi
@Kaybossboi 2 ай бұрын
What about Russia?
@sab6261
@sab6261 2 ай бұрын
Tighten it up!
@augustine.o6190
@augustine.o6190 2 ай бұрын
@@KaybossboiEU and USA have a combined GDP of over 50 trillion dollars, while Russia GDP is just 2 trillion. This is why China can’t afford to lose the west.
@andresfelipeod6819
@andresfelipeod6819 2 ай бұрын
there is only one thing more valuable that it : Taiwan. if U.S. pressure more becoming Taiwan next Ucraine, all the global capitalism will go under the Sink, because China never-never-never will allow to have an Ucraine-model based on Taiwan. perhaps if they remain Ucraine Neutral. and not Expand NATO. nothing of this could happen.
@Cagstok
@Cagstok 2 ай бұрын
No mention of Chinese troops training in Belarus earlier this year. Interesting.
@ELS-tone
@ELS-tone 2 ай бұрын
I think the fact that the USSR isn't shown when talking about it at length is a big issue and maybe should be uploaded. This isn't just a cutaway
@Chatterbox_001
@Chatterbox_001 2 ай бұрын
Desperate analysis
@namelesssomebody2557
@namelesssomebody2557 2 ай бұрын
It depends. Has China sent troops north in a Revanchist campaign to reclaim all the lands lost to Imperial Russia during the Century of Humiliation?
@peterflohr7827
@peterflohr7827 2 ай бұрын
It won't happen like that. China will buy, for cheap, land, mines, exploitation rights, etc. in Siberia. Send migration workers. Russian women are marrying Chinese men, etc. Slowly Russia becomes a resource colony, not of the West but of China.
@pgpython
@pgpython 2 ай бұрын
Not yet but I wager good money China is looking at Ukraine kursk incursion with great interest thinking they would get away with it because who is going to stop them? Russia not likely. The military might of Russia is in Ukraine. Usa and Europe? Not likely either I seriously don't think they would be happy about it but it would leave a sour taste to bail out Russia from the mess it got itself into
@anonts5050
@anonts5050 2 ай бұрын
nice propaganda
@Loriisaqueen234
@Loriisaqueen234 2 ай бұрын
Okay Ivan 😂
@williamtell5365
@williamtell5365 2 ай бұрын
I doubt they have fallen out but they certainly have different goals and interests. China and Russia will inevitably have a relationship, as they both see themselves in opposition to the West. But the issue is, whether Russia (i.e., Putin) can accept that they are essentially supine to China now. Putin still seems to think Russia is a power on par with China, and that's simply not the case. Either way, ultimately, China will gain more control over Russia's resources and its future.
@LordEmperorHyperion
@LordEmperorHyperion 2 ай бұрын
This video has so much copium in it, i just laughed out loud ! 😂😂😂😂
@Henbot
@Henbot 2 ай бұрын
You missed racism in USSR quite early on that made them hostile to China
@szymonbaranowski8184
@szymonbaranowski8184 2 ай бұрын
look at tocharian history and tell who was racist first lol
@schloops8473
@schloops8473 2 ай бұрын
@@szymonbaranowski8184 both russia and china are ethno-dictatorships
@hyhhy
@hyhhy 2 ай бұрын
No wonder, since Ukraine was part of USSR back then. Khrushchev, who broke the relations, was Ukrainian too. It benefited Ukraine at the time (inside USSR), but eventually it led to the whole USSR's economic downfall.
@ottomanosman2463
@ottomanosman2463 2 ай бұрын
@@hyhhy Really? Resources were hoarded to Russia while the rest was poor. And all leaders in USSR spoke Russian, not Ukrainian.
@Vatnik_tschistilka
@Vatnik_tschistilka 2 ай бұрын
​@@szymonbaranowski8184The Russians. A 17 year old female Martial arts (sambo) national Team Athlete felt the need to end her own Life Just Yesterday after being bullied by Team mates for her being of Asian ethnicity.
@freddytang2128
@freddytang2128 2 ай бұрын
Come on, isn’t this title a bit alarmist. No two countries will agree on absolutely everything. You can find plenty of things where US disagree with Canada or Israel. That doesn’t warrant a video “why have US and Canada fallen out”
@spjr99
@spjr99 2 ай бұрын
Quietly fallen out isn't very alarmist. They have. China basically boned them on the LNG imports (justified)
@tomeekun
@tomeekun 2 ай бұрын
Do you think they make videos in Russia and/or China about the USA and the EU divorcing or NATO being on the verge of collapse? I feel like we've been listening to these types of videos of Russo-Sino relations detoriating since even before the war in Donbas and it always sounds like wishful thinking at best and engagement farming at worst.
@Puschit1
@Puschit1 Ай бұрын
It's called "wagging the dog"
@akaashking9609
@akaashking9609 2 ай бұрын
Getting a view about their relationship from a guy from Britain is very sourcefull 🤣🤣! The British empire has fallen and they still make up propaganda 🤣
@mal_ed
@mal_ed 2 ай бұрын
Marriage of convenience, you say? I want that too!
@jacobkuntflapp
@jacobkuntflapp 2 ай бұрын
No, they were hugging in may. They close as shit
@anthonygordon9483
@anthonygordon9483 2 ай бұрын
Of course Russia and China are not as close as you think!!! They both want their countries to rule the world. Why would they have a alliance ?
@zachb1706
@zachb1706 2 ай бұрын
An alliance of convenience, like Nazi Germany’s alliance with Italy and Japan despite thinking they were both subhuman
@Unmighty1
@Unmighty1 2 ай бұрын
Every country prioritises their own self interest. Why should china and russia be any different
@ArawnOfAnnwn
@ArawnOfAnnwn 2 ай бұрын
Cos rn the us does, and is undermining them both. Why would they do exactly what the us wants them to do?
@anthonygordon9483
@anthonygordon9483 2 ай бұрын
@@zachb1706 Exactly, they have one hand out to help and the other behind their back with a knife. Nothing new. You cant cheat history, these guys got so few option because they both want to be a sole super power. Nationalism today is so predictable. This isnt 1930s. We've seen these behaviors before.
@hyhhy
@hyhhy 2 ай бұрын
Russia mainly wants to "rule" Eastern Europe and China is content with "ruling" Southeast Asia... That means they have a common interest in pushing USA out of these regions, back to its own continent where it belongs. Neither wants USA to rule their immediate neighborhoods, for very good reasons.
@sunnohh
@sunnohh 2 ай бұрын
It’s not even a marriage of convenience, it’s a pairing of desparation
@pradeepmagan6951
@pradeepmagan6951 2 ай бұрын
Would also help if India gives all its Russian weapons to Ukraine and stops buying their oil
@ameytiwari1247
@ameytiwari1247 2 ай бұрын
pagal hai kya
@MrFalut
@MrFalut 2 ай бұрын
"would also help if India was stupid" - Stupid guy who expects others to be as stupid as him
@priyan605
@priyan605 2 ай бұрын
Clown comment
@szymonbaranowski8184
@szymonbaranowski8184 2 ай бұрын
​@@priyan605will never happen
@priyan605
@priyan605 2 ай бұрын
@@szymonbaranowski8184 and that's a good thing
@ElBandito
@ElBandito Ай бұрын
Clearest example of Russia/China split. Putin visited Mongolia for a day and left on September 3rd. And the soon after the Chinese vice president also visited Mongolia. They clearly have too much of a difference to not conjoin their visits toigether.
@crankykransky2979
@crankykransky2979 2 ай бұрын
"Oppose whatever your enemy supports, support everything your enemy opposes." - Mao Tse-Tung
@jpb2366
@jpb2366 Ай бұрын
Yes but Palestine is a terrorist state
@Puschit1
@Puschit1 Ай бұрын
And Donald Trump
@crankykransky2979
@crankykransky2979 Ай бұрын
@@Puschit1 I don't think you understand...
@DavidGitongawriter
@DavidGitongawriter 2 ай бұрын
Disinformation: This video reminds me of a similar video on this channel which claimed Russia and India have fallen apart: kzbin.info/www/bejne/fJ-Qg2ylbq-oa5o
@Harrybollox
@Harrybollox 2 ай бұрын
China is too clever, too advanced and too ambitious to get in bed with a lost cause
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