Why Serena became a better tennis player than Venus

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@ChristiansCourt
@ChristiansCourt Ай бұрын
Let me know if y’all want me to do anything different for my future “In the Arena” episode breakdowns! Always open to constructive criticism 🙂
@godz4ever404
@godz4ever404 Ай бұрын
Did you see that Coco is the FIRST tennis player to carry the US flag in the Olympics? I'm like SERENA has never done it?! Wow! I'm feeling some type of way! Lol.
@marjorjorietillman856
@marjorjorietillman856 Ай бұрын
Christian, I love and agree with 99% of your analysis and critique. I’m so tired of big media critiques of Serena’s career, because they keep showing the times when Serena got upset, but they rarely show others players when they got angry. I can name several of them who cursed often and beat their rackets, etc. And you never get to see the many times Serena was mistreated by American and overseas fans. And one fan constantly called her the Nword, until she kindly asked them to stop him. So, could you NOT join in pulling out all those photos again, maybe one, because it’s always so one-sided!! Thank you! I have and will continue enjoying your channel!!🙏🏽
@ViolaHarris-mr2wn
@ViolaHarris-mr2wn Ай бұрын
Serena got that dog in her. Venus mild mannered.
@theramden6025
@theramden6025 Ай бұрын
Serena once said she hates losing more than she loved winning. She watched Venus' errors and executed them to a tee. Had she not gotten pregnant, I truly believe she would have won atleast 2 more grand slams. Venus was great but Serena was relentless and I'm enjoying her mini series In the Arena.
@Infelsinave
@Infelsinave Ай бұрын
Venus liked to compete, Serena liked to win. They had two different goals… and that’s how it played out.
@ChristiansCourt
@ChristiansCourt Ай бұрын
that’s a great way of looking at it
@iancredible6904
@iancredible6904 Ай бұрын
Serena had the psychological advantage. I think their head to head matches were tougher on Venus. She saw her baby sister across the net who she wanted the best for. Serena just saw someone she wanted to beat.
@soiconic9446
@soiconic9446 Ай бұрын
I couldnt imagine playing my sibling at such a high level at anything in front of the world. The type of mentality that both sisters had especially Serena is unmatched. To this day a lot of these women don't have that x factor that Serena had (Respectfully). Thank you for the content, you did your big one with this one.
@israeliana
@israeliana Ай бұрын
Right but 14:00 was all smiles
@babyg7796
@babyg7796 27 күн бұрын
For those of you who don’t have autoimmune disorders..you have no idea how it affects you even prior to diagnosis! She started to go down BEFORE even being diagnosed & then spent the future years trying to regain control of her life & health. Please do not say V didn’t want it. As someone who’s battling it now & whose job is REQUIRED to be extremely fit & in shape, it’s heart breaking when your body is working against you no matter how much work you put in. Cut it out.
@EvonneLindiwe
@EvonneLindiwe 18 күн бұрын
I agree.. I have RA and as someone who used to be fit most of my life.. I’m no longer the same 😢
@TeeNicole10
@TeeNicole10 5 күн бұрын
BLESSINGS TO YOU💝🙏🏽
@GRACEFS1
@GRACEFS1 Ай бұрын
Richard Williams is an amazing tennis coach, he should be in the Hall of Fame.
@ChristiansCourt
@ChristiansCourt Ай бұрын
both him and Oracene!
@marjorjorietillman856
@marjorjorietillman856 Ай бұрын
Venus got most of the applause and media attention in the first years of their careers, whereas Serena got most of the glory in the second half of her career!! And I love how Serena always give lots of credit to Venus!!❤
@MouhamadouBDiagne
@MouhamadouBDiagne Ай бұрын
By the time Venus finally adapted her game in 2017, she was 37 and it was simply too late.
@ChristiansCourt
@ChristiansCourt Ай бұрын
yep.. i wish David Witt would’ve made some changes earlier
@itzhenrythegamerguy4564
@itzhenrythegamerguy4564 Ай бұрын
Serena being shorter allowed her to move better, Venus's movement as fantastic as it once was became a weakness once she got older. Plus, Serena hit with more margin and spin
@waritolfactive
@waritolfactive Ай бұрын
100% spot on. I also notice Vee's game being more flat and linear with lots of net approches, while Serena was able to also attack the net but also with a lot more spin and angles on her shots, therefore making her more consistent too.
@ChristiansCourt
@ChristiansCourt Ай бұрын
Venus’ forehand always had considerably less margin on them compared to Serena which I think made a major difference. She hit it a bit too flat for my liking.
@christopheryoung5032
@christopheryoung5032 Ай бұрын
Why does it matter who’s better? Venus was a guiding light for Serena and she has said this many times. Two black women who are probably the greatest sibling act in sports history. They are both an amazing in their own right!
@StewNWT
@StewNWT Ай бұрын
@@ChristiansCourt 100% agreed. Sharapova was a crappier lateral mover esp to the FH side and her FH ALWAYS broke down under pace and Venus suffered the same. And trust me, my FH does the same lol. Not my BH though (kisses racquet)
@aaronusernamefiller9435
@aaronusernamefiller9435 Ай бұрын
Nah Venus was incredibly quick, had good footwork (unlike Serena) and a massive wingspan it was only after her Sjogren’s started to affect her that her movement became a problem. Serena was better because she had a better serve with more variety and less opportunity to attack her second and her groundstrokes had more margin than Venus and she could open up the court a lot more and she had better return instincts and was able to put a lot more pressure on her opponents and Serena just had more of a champion’s mentality in general and you can really see that in the sisters’ US Open 2008 and AO 2003 matches where Venus was playing better but Serena’s mental game got her through those matches
@Make_Australia_British_Again
@Make_Australia_British_Again Ай бұрын
I think Serena just wanted it more than Venus too.
@ChristiansCourt
@ChristiansCourt Ай бұрын
agreed!
@marfu1119
@marfu1119 Ай бұрын
Yes true
@kenardflowers1962
@kenardflowers1962 Ай бұрын
I agree, because there's so many times venus could have dominated her
@Make_Australia_British_Again
@Make_Australia_British_Again Ай бұрын
@@kenardflowers1962absolutely. Hard being a Venus fan because she’s so nice, but didn’t have the hunger that Serena had.
@jcpenny3606
@jcpenny3606 Ай бұрын
Nah, Serena just had a ton more power.
@StewNWT
@StewNWT Ай бұрын
Serena's shots were pretty much all better technically than Venus, and got even more so after her connection with Moratoglou. Her serve is the single best technical shot in the history of tennis, men or women. Her FH in particular was MUCH more sound than Venus'. Venus volleys you could argue were better. They both had insane footspeed, Venus had the slight edge on that in the first half of their career than Serena in the second. BHs were both stellar but Serena's technique was just unreal, esp her ability to hit those extreme angles. Richard himself said Serena plays angles better than any other player ever, and it's true. you could make an argument for Nadal as the only player as good at angles as Serena. And then there was the mentality. And no one had a better big game mentality than Serena other than pre-stabbing Seles. Serena before she faded toward the end of her career was at one point 21-4 in Grand Slam finals. 21 and 4. That is insane. Twice by Venus, once by Sharapova, once by Stosur. That's IT.
@ChristiansCourt
@ChristiansCourt Ай бұрын
I think Venus would’ve benefitted from having someone like Patrick later in her career. Yeah she had David Witt, but I don’t think he wasn’t as affective at helping Vee with some weaker aspects in her game
@StewNWT
@StewNWT Ай бұрын
@@ChristiansCourt I agree
@chanjiewan6823
@chanjiewan6823 Ай бұрын
@@ChristiansCourt Venus seemed a bit stubborn though like Fed who thought their game did not need to change and that they just needed to play well. Fed made his changes too late in his career where Novak already had the mental edge but it worked against Rafa. Serena's game changed over the years, sometimes within a match.
@seensay2132
@seensay2132 Ай бұрын
Excellent breakdown. I will add one observation I think speaks to both of their strengths in differences. I learned to admire Venus’ mentality of not getting too high or low over matches. In her prime, when she won she acted cool like she was supposed to win. When she lost, she seemed to treat defeat lightly as if knowing she WOULD have won if she’d handled her business. The focus was always on her own play. Especially following her disease diagnosis, I think that’s why she was able to take her licks between 2011-2016 and STILL make it back to two Slam finals in 2017. Self belief and focusing only on her own play - and without a lot of rah rah fanfare. Contrast, Serena had the more fiery approach. She could hype herself up against opponents to dig into matches even when being outplayed. It left her more prone to allowing a few rivals to get into her head (Capriati, Henin, Kerber). But it’s also why she’s got a record of some of THE greatest comebacks in tour history- beating World #2 Davenport at 1998 Sydney after trailing 1-6,2-5. Rallying to beat Clijsters in the 2003 Aussie semis from 5-1 down in the 3rd. Winning the 2007 Miami final from 0-6,4-5 down. Toppling Petrova at the 2007 Aussie 3rd RD from 1-6,3-5 down and then going on to win the whole tournament! You don’t pull off those kinds of wins without some serious mental firepower.
@amawafa7448
@amawafa7448 Ай бұрын
You can't teach brilliance. Moratoglou was just different.(sorry for his influence in what happened to Simona Halep../She said that he let her down).... players often need another perspective and with that, they find their own way...
@gregoryphillips3969
@gregoryphillips3969 Ай бұрын
Serena just wanted it more. When they were young you could watch and see that was Venus moved slightly better was superior at the net. Serena openly admitted that Venus would beat her soundly in practice. Venus as competitive as she was subconsciously tamped her presence down and gave way to Serena. The sickness Venus had later on didn't help matters. Hats off to Serena for her talent, determination and consistency which allowed her to be the greatest female tennis player of all time. As far as Venus goes what a fine person and a great tennis player she was. If Venus would have been a more gritty type of person she would have done much more no matter who was playing.
@ChristiansCourt
@ChristiansCourt Ай бұрын
completely agree!
@dblog
@dblog Ай бұрын
I think this is the best analysis! Venus is just as good if not better but Serena simply wanted it more..
@chanjiewan6823
@chanjiewan6823 Ай бұрын
I agree and disagree. One can not deemed to be better if they don't have to mental aspects. Tennis is 80/20, mental to physical. Everyone out there is physically strong, can hit hard, can run, can get great high quality coaches and training. What sets players apart is mentality. Physically, they were equal with slight preferences here and there. Mentally, Serena was better which is part of playing tennis. Prime example, there were times when Serena was not on tour and Venus had full chance to dominate and didn't. 2004-2007. Venus won only at Wimbledon. Venus just did not have the killer instinct but she did do well to win 7 slams.
@gregoryphillips3969
@gregoryphillips3969 Ай бұрын
@chanjiewan6823 Physically Venus had the goods. Your point is an interesting one. Richard Williams early on said that Serena was going to be better. Not because physically Serena was better but Serena was just rough and actually the mother worked more with her. But Richard also once said that if Venus ever started serving and volleying on a regular basis you could shut the whole tour down. But lucky for everyone she stayed on the baseline. Serena's presence had a huge affect on Venus. Even if Serena was out for a bit Venus knew that she was coming back. You make some good points but based solely on the eyeball test Venus was better. Rick Macci tells the story about when he first took the trip to Compton to watch the Williams sisters. He was about to thank Richard for his time and leave. Just before this happened Venus asked to go to the bathroom. Right in the moment Venus jumped up and walked to the bathroom on her hands. Rick Macci signed both of the sisters up right after he saw this, and the rest is history.
@deusexmachina9776
@deusexmachina9776 Ай бұрын
Younger siblings tend to do better than the older sibling in sports, the younger one is physically weaker in early years so they have to over compensate by putting in more work in technique to keep up, and thinking of creative ways to beat the older one since they can't overpower. e.g Osaka, Zverev, Andreeva, Swiatek to some extent
@ChristiansCourt
@ChristiansCourt Ай бұрын
agreed and I also think it has to do with the younger sibling typically having less pressure to be the better of the two
@chanjiewan6823
@chanjiewan6823 Ай бұрын
@@ChristiansCourt Actually there is more pressure as the younger sibling as there is someone so close to you for the world to comapre you to.
@amawafa7448
@amawafa7448 Ай бұрын
And the Mama initially trained Serena....teaching her to be more of an instinctive and intuitive player....Not to be predictable.......Woman Power!
@ritzavieux4320
@ritzavieux4320 Ай бұрын
Serena got better because she knows how good Venus was. She managed to pass her sister in order to be recognized as the beat. She was able to do that because she was the little sister.
@cfhar080591
@cfhar080591 Ай бұрын
Best way to describe it in my opinion. Venus hated to lose but if she lost to Serena it was ok. Serena doesn't like to lose to ANYONE including Venus.
@divinegangsta3692
@divinegangsta3692 15 күн бұрын
Nah, Serena had a soft spot for her sister, too. This is why, despite her ambitions and victories, she dealt with the dilemma of triumph over her icon, sister, and best friend! Did ya'll not hear Serena say she cried over this?! Ultimately, both women are Gods in their own right and share the same great skill, genes, grit & passion. They dominated the sport at different times throughout their careers. Such is life.
@thesovgc
@thesovgc 8 күн бұрын
Venus should have given her that 2000 Wimbledon SF then 💀
@chanjiewan6823
@chanjiewan6823 Ай бұрын
Bottom line is Venus never changed anything about her game whilst the drive to win made Serena open, willing to and eventually changed her game over three eras. Her shots evolved with Tennis. And she is way more mentally superior.
@misterme9829
@misterme9829 Ай бұрын
That's completely untrue. Venus made many changes to her game over the years, especially after 2012. Her serve, forehand and tactical strategy evolved very well over the years. Injuries and Sjogrens Syndrome is what did Venus in.
@Solis225
@Solis225 Ай бұрын
Christian I remember when you started your channel! Brother you have done an excellent job!! I am so proud of you and being a part of your growth since the beginning! This is a piece. Keep up the good work !
@ChristiansCourt
@ChristiansCourt Ай бұрын
this means so much, thank you 🥹
@ViolaHarris-mr2wn
@ViolaHarris-mr2wn Ай бұрын
Serena has that dog in her. Venus is more mild-mannered.
@theire483
@theire483 29 күн бұрын
If you were around when Venus played in her first major, she did the talk show circuit. What Venus said was, If you think I'm good, just wait until you see my little sister. We had not yet seen Serena play as a pro yet. Every show she was on, she said it ....she then added, she's better than me. Serena wanted more than anything to beat her big sis. She had not done it before the majors.
@MB-nb7yq
@MB-nb7yq 16 күн бұрын
Serena gives off MJ energy on the court. That anger and passion brought the drive to be the best. She was also probably tired of being in the shadow of her sister in her teens.
@kenny808kine8
@kenny808kine8 Ай бұрын
So happy for this series. Saw episode one so I'll be back after episode 2. I didn't want spoilers. Thanks for covering. Honestly missing them especially during slams and olympics.
@ChristiansCourt
@ChristiansCourt Ай бұрын
episode three is AMAZING!
@wheresbaby7783
@wheresbaby7783 Ай бұрын
Part of it was Venus’s health condition don’t you think but I heard Richard’s say Richard Williams say the reason why Serena is going to be better is because she’s mean
@ChristiansCourt
@ChristiansCourt Ай бұрын
i think venus’ health and Serena mentality were the two main reasons!
@emmanueln8415
@emmanueln8415 Ай бұрын
Richard never used the word "mean" to describe any of his daughters.
@user-cq7pr5lg8c
@user-cq7pr5lg8c Ай бұрын
My theory is that because Serena growing up was not as powerful as Venus so she developed more tactics as well as improving her shotmaking techniques... so by the time she caught up power-wise... she became unstoppable. Oh of course the fact that Oracene fixed her toss and serve *might* played a part hehe.
@chimmaugbor8970
@chimmaugbor8970 Ай бұрын
He prophesied into his child and it came to pass! That is powerful! Not putting them against each other but Serena did truly want more for herself!
@bnimi4u
@bnimi4u 19 күн бұрын
Venus was grossly hampered by autoimmune disease Sjorgen. It took a while for her to figure it out. She lost valuable time in the process.
@idrisshepherd7764
@idrisshepherd7764 Ай бұрын
Do you sometimes think that being told your sister is gonna be better than you also had venus feel slightly not as good?
@roter13
@roter13 Ай бұрын
Richard literally compared Serena to a pitbull. That's all you need to know. She's meaner and she wanted it more.
@lostindallas62
@lostindallas62 Ай бұрын
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@jaibhagat
@jaibhagat Ай бұрын
Serena had the best second serve of all time.
@dayzour123
@dayzour123 Ай бұрын
If you look at a positive way, they both got what they wanted first off. Serena wanted to win the U.S. Open as her first slam Venus wanted to win Wimbledon for her first slam and they both achieved that.
@Paakid
@Paakid Ай бұрын
Venus laid the foundation leading to the door Serena would ultimately walk thru. Serena was blessed with that killer instinct and all the negative b.s they heard growing up she used as fuel to her fire!
@mxspresso
@mxspresso Ай бұрын
The Alycia Parks sneak 💀… but great video! Definitely loving this documentary so far and can’t wait for your coverage on episode 3!
@ChristiansCourt
@ChristiansCourt 26 күн бұрын
Thanks so much!!
@niltash4ever
@niltash4ever Ай бұрын
I love this breakdown. I still believe Venus is and was the better player. Serena just wanted it more. It’s that little grit that separates the greats.
@kofipokuantwi-boateng5446
@kofipokuantwi-boateng5446 Ай бұрын
Very insightful. These 2 have been through a lot. I feel at their best, no one is better than them on hardcourts and grass. Venus was just so unfortunate. She was very injury prone. She missed almost 5 months at the start of 2000. She came back in time for the French Open and lost to Sanchez Vicario in the quarter finals. She had an incredible summer, but got injured before the year end championship. Even though she was the best player in the world, there's no way she could finish at the number one player after playing just about 5 months on tour. She was impressive in 2001,but her semi final loss atvthe Australia open was disappointing. I believe that's when the auto immune disease started. 2002 was supposed to be her year. She was quite healthy and was on top of her game. Unfortunately for her, Serena peaked that year. Since Serena's best is better than anyone's best, she had no chance. The auto immune progressively worsened. Since some auto immune diseases come with a mental health problems, i guess it contributed to her choking so many times. My sister suffers from Auto immune, so i know a lot about it. These 2 are my favorite female tennis players. They endured a lot of hate, but rose above it.
@MalcolmAli
@MalcolmAli Ай бұрын
The idea that “Serena just wanted it more” or was an overall better player than Venus is an odd take to me. Venus suffered with injuries (that 03 abdominal tear cost her the title, but also changed how she served moving forward) and most important - Sjogrens which affected her for nearly 7 years before it was finally diagnosed and then she still had to re-learn how to compete at the pro level while navigating an autoimmune disease. Understating the impact Sjogrens had on her career is an unfair assessment. End of 2008 - Venus 7 slams, 39 titles - Serena 8 slams, 32 titles Venus should’ve won that USO QF against Serena and their slam tally should’ve been 8 and 8 that year. 2009-2011 was injuries and more weird performances before she finally got the diagnosis. In either case, they were neck and neck until then. The renaissance Venus finally had 2015-2017 even being older and having an autoimmune disease shows she could’ve been playing at the highest level and competing for slams all along.
@ebonih7138
@ebonih7138 8 күн бұрын
I think it was destiny that they were sisters! You can’t separate their success journeys and it’s so beautiful to see! Their talents informed the other. Reminds me of Chloe x Halle.
@igatek
@igatek Ай бұрын
richard williams is an incredible man, the way there careers went as he planned and they became super successful aswell as the fact he predicted this, unreal
@gingrbean
@gingrbean 7 күн бұрын
I have no idea how youtube got your channel to me but I AM GRATEFUL! love love love the William sisters 🩷💕
@Ty0688
@Ty0688 Ай бұрын
There was a coach that said he was an instrumental part in why Serena is such a good server. Lmao. Oracene was highlighted in the movie "King Richard". The reason she has the wrist flick that can change the direction of her serve last minute is from oracene :)
@kimmixerxs
@kimmixerxs Ай бұрын
Brilliant analysis. Thank you. Your love for the Williams sisters shines bright 🎾🎾🎾
@arungania
@arungania Ай бұрын
Great commentary. You did that. Proud of you sir.
@ChristiansCourt
@ChristiansCourt Ай бұрын
thank you!!
@DoubleFaultKing-r4h
@DoubleFaultKing-r4h Ай бұрын
Great video. King Richard and Oracene Price turning those kids into pros in Compton of all places is insane. Not a formula you could even replicate
@DoubleFaultKing-r4h
@DoubleFaultKing-r4h Ай бұрын
Though the hiding birth control story kinda ehh 😭😭 Joe Jackson Esque
@ChristiansCourt
@ChristiansCourt Ай бұрын
@@DoubleFaultKing-r4hright, he was mad wild for that 😭
@killlamas57
@killlamas57 13 күн бұрын
The father saying Serena was the better player sealed destiny. I’m sure his was the voice in Venus’ ear later on when Serena began to eclipse her.
@MashuCashew
@MashuCashew 24 күн бұрын
Used to be a huge tennis fan.
@seensay2132
@seensay2132 Ай бұрын
Sanchez Vicario had just won the 1994 US Open months before that fateful Oakland match with Venus. And she did take a bathroom break down 2-6,1-3 to 14 yo Venus, to disrupt her rhythm. So why exactly was she mad about her movie portrayal?
@jasonlee6180
@jasonlee6180 Ай бұрын
Great video! Serena's stroke production was cleaner and mentality was different. Both amazing though obviously
@alext3760
@alext3760 28 күн бұрын
Don't forget that Venus had been going through some tough time with her hips or something that really affected her tennis glory. I know there should not be excuses, but sometimes it needs to be spoken out. I've always liked Venus' playing style more than Serena's, but I prefer Serena's mental toughness in crucial moments. She's the queen of comebacks for no reasons. Love both of them though.
@MrLloyd214
@MrLloyd214 9 күн бұрын
It doesnt matter. They were both unbelievable players. Venus' health issues hindered her somewhat. I also believe technique on her serve was slightly more clunky not as fluid but nonetheless she was an unbelievable competitor. Also certain mental issues probably sapped her desire to win, such as the passing of her sister, not to say Serena wasn't affected the same way. Also tennis is very age focused, Venus I believe started playing at an older age than Serena, even though they started at the same time. The earlier you start you have more time to be talented and perfect kinks in your game. I enjoyed them both, I actually enjoyed watching Venus in her times when she was winning in the early 2000s all those Wimbledon titles was insane.
@adrianonline69
@adrianonline69 Ай бұрын
Serena s serve is the best ever
@AC-ss5oy
@AC-ss5oy Ай бұрын
Wait. I thought the Lipton championship is basically the Miami open now ? I think venus lost her aura at 2002 Wimbledon. Her reaction to losing to Serena in that final was sullen AF. You could tell she was bothered by losing that one.
@ChristiansCourt
@ChristiansCourt Ай бұрын
it is!
@ChristiansCourt
@ChristiansCourt Ай бұрын
I also think Wimbledon 2002 was a considerable turning point. Vee was the two-time defending champion and was invincible at Wimbledon at that time until Serena came and dethroned her 🤷🏽‍♂️
@jamesbutler3960
@jamesbutler3960 Ай бұрын
Ugh…. I think Venus illness prevented her from progressing the way that she could have, which very well could have been THE GOAT! However, I can’t see Serena not accomplishing all that she did regardless of who stood in her way.
@dayzour123
@dayzour123 Ай бұрын
Like i always said I love Serena on the court but Venus had my heart
@jordanwilliams1740
@jordanwilliams1740 Ай бұрын
15:41 one thing Serena is consistent in is rolling that ankle chilee😂😭
@marfu1119
@marfu1119 13 күн бұрын
Venus was unable to elevate her game due to her illness.
@carolysigar5311
@carolysigar5311 Ай бұрын
Nice top tier episode I'm enjoying it
@ChristiansCourt
@ChristiansCourt Ай бұрын
did you watch episode three?
@user-ot3bk4qh7d
@user-ot3bk4qh7d Ай бұрын
I think the sisters are equally talented and skillfull. Venus is better up the net while Serena has a better serve. The difference is Venus being the older sister giving way for Serena. She got used to giving games and matches to Serena that she felt ok not being the best eventually...
@rashawncampbell7619
@rashawncampbell7619 Ай бұрын
Clearly they're not equally talented and skillful like nothing you can say can back that up. Lol
@user-ot3bk4qh7d
@user-ot3bk4qh7d Ай бұрын
@@rashawncampbell7619 whatever Serena is lacking Venus has the edge and vice versa. You are just dumb and stupid to analyze.
@laf4891
@laf4891 Ай бұрын
Loved your analysis. Thank you.
@ChristiansCourt
@ChristiansCourt Ай бұрын
thank you for watching!
@WickedRichie
@WickedRichie Ай бұрын
That must have been tough for a kid to hear. Your own father and couch publicly predicting your younger sister to be better than you.
@ChristiansCourt
@ChristiansCourt Ай бұрын
that’s one thing i meant to mention… I wonder how Venus felt seeing Richard say that when they were younger?
@imimbunjana6754
@imimbunjana6754 Ай бұрын
@@ChristiansCourt He said it with so much graCe
@richardsmith1161
@richardsmith1161 Ай бұрын
Serena was just physically stronger and not a nice person on the court, like Venus was. I've been watching tennis since the Chrissy/Martina says and Serena was the second best I've seen, next to Monica.
@beyourself2444
@beyourself2444 Ай бұрын
She's the second best to me after Steffi but Monica would have been the GOAT if she wasn't stabbed.
@chanjiewan6823
@chanjiewan6823 Ай бұрын
I don't think it was a matter of being nice or not. There are different was people handle hate, some face it head on and others handle it quietly. From their teens and especially after Serena won her first slam, I and everyone else could see that Serena was destined for more than Venus. From then all the players wanted to beat Serena, the media hated her, fans were the worst. Venus handled it with better poise but any player who wanted to win more would fight against the haters. This brings up the Novak situation. It's the same with him and what he has been through. Either you consede and do well (Venus 7 slams) or you fight against the tide and do great (Serena 23 slams). They never fudged with Venus the way they did with Serena.
@tasibho
@tasibho Ай бұрын
Venus was the older sister. She had the burden of having to do well and TAKE care and lead the way for her baby sister.
@daman9971
@daman9971 Ай бұрын
A great video! Thank you for this!
@ChristiansCourt
@ChristiansCourt 26 күн бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@sandychin1326
@sandychin1326 2 күн бұрын
I watch you and Andy Roddick’s Served! Love your shows!
@ITS_QUIS
@ITS_QUIS Ай бұрын
To be fair Venus suffers from an autoimmune disease which played a big part in
@ChristiansCourt
@ChristiansCourt Ай бұрын
yes, i mentioned this early in the video!
@tonyndege8582
@tonyndege8582 26 күн бұрын
Peak Venus groundstrokes were fire. I think a TAD better than Serena on very fast surfaces especially at net. What frustrated me about Venus, possibly my favorite women's player ever undoubtedly on grass, (just her movement during her peak years and I preferred the faster grass and US Open courts WAY more) was that her serve was consistent for a while but it would also be her pitfall. Like many times it would just breakdown. Serena has the greatest and most consistent women's serve of all time ESPECIALLY early then late in her career 2011-2016. (only Clijsters could clock it aside from Venus .. sometimes Henin) and Venus would have been up there and have won MANY more majors but her serve would break down and with it her entire game - mentally, shot selection, forehand, etc. Serena was smart to model her serve motion after Sampras. I wasn't a fan of Sampras' personality but he had to this day, I think the best serve of all time because he was so confident in his technique. No recent woman has quite captured Serenas' serve aura although Osaka was close. So was Barty for her size. Why (To be honest I think Osaka's total technical package at her peak was insane on hard court. Unfortunately she doesn't have the killer instinct) . There were a couple matches where Venus served close to men's level ( at the time) because she could really serve faster than Serena on grass when her mind and body were in sync. But that was only for a few matches (one where Sharapova was playing amazingly well and Venus still whooped her). I wish Venus would have been able to fix her technique on her serve mechanics a bit more and her toss and occasional perplexing under rotation a bit more and had confidence to serve and volley more. I think S&V would have actually helped her psychologically win more but it wasn't her personality and she hated getting passed. She would have won at least seven Wimbledons if not more (she won five and was in eight finals) and possibly a few more hard court majors. The other issue here is that they slowed down the grass tremendously after 2001 and I think the faster grass favored Venus with her incredible wingspan. Thank you for this analysis
@sperrotta91
@sperrotta91 22 күн бұрын
Totally agree. I think Venus was the better grass court player.
@dariusbrock2351
@dariusbrock2351 Ай бұрын
I enjoyed this thanks!
@EndoftheTownProductions
@EndoftheTownProductions Ай бұрын
The main reason is Serena's serve.
@letoyajohnstone191
@letoyajohnstone191 Ай бұрын
You are amazing 💞
@DelightfulSpaceExplorati-xj8eo
@DelightfulSpaceExplorati-xj8eo Ай бұрын
Great deep dive...Serena..
@mike04574
@mike04574 6 күн бұрын
video on roddick or nalbandian would be great
@sperrotta91
@sperrotta91 22 күн бұрын
I think Venus at her peak was a better grass court player.
@ShipleySpeaking
@ShipleySpeaking Ай бұрын
Just finished watching episode 3 and it is even better than the first two imo. Bring your Kleenex!
@ChristiansCourt
@ChristiansCourt Ай бұрын
it was so good 😭
@Lewis-HM1
@Lewis-HM1 Ай бұрын
Love ur channel. The one thing about all serenawilliams documentary HBO and espn frustrated to me. They didn't tell serenawilliams story stand up against Confederate flag refused to play north carolina tournament year 2000. Don't get me starting about IndianWells against Belgium player name kim clijsters year 2001story never told properly. Serenawilliams, venuswilliams and Richard Williams story need to be written,produced and directed by black person will be phenomenal unfortunately It doesn't happen like that. I know a lot of stuff they left out I know personally. God is willing I will make unauthorized documentary about the great richard Williams,serenawilliams and venuswilliams.
@MashuCashew
@MashuCashew 24 күн бұрын
This was a great video essay, vut it unfortunately failed to address the darkside of tennis: its steroid problem. The issue gets worse tho: because tennis isnt as popular as other mainstream sports, it's delendant on its playerbase. If half of them get DQ'd, you dont have a sport anymore.
@derrickpope6552
@derrickpope6552 Ай бұрын
Serena was never an after thought
@johnanderson8385
@johnanderson8385 15 күн бұрын
serena had more variety...venus played the same in each match...saved you 30 min.
@thesovgc
@thesovgc 8 күн бұрын
Serena had far superior technique. Venus' strokes were wonky and subject to falling apart.
@thesovgc
@thesovgc 8 күн бұрын
Please call out Richard's abusive behavior, such as hiding his wife's contraceptives. The way you weren't very firm about it sends the wrong message.
@deusexmachina9776
@deusexmachina9776 Ай бұрын
Serena and Venus as kids had no make up, cool hair, baggy clothes were they could be mistaken as boys. these days kids the same age are dressing like grown women.
@theriac1148
@theriac1148 29 күн бұрын
Venus became stronger because she plays with Serena all her life She’s unbelievable
@haitungying7808
@haitungying7808 Ай бұрын
Yes, I remember the Dad’s prediction at the time, that Serena would be more accomplished. Richard’s method of coaching his 2 girls was legendary, Using old airless tennis balls Not showcasing them in the junior circuits. Unorthodox indeed.
@DelightfulSpaceExplorati-xj8eo
@DelightfulSpaceExplorati-xj8eo Ай бұрын
Venus William...
@johnoneill7947
@johnoneill7947 16 күн бұрын
Venus let Serena win the 2002 French Open final.
@katsosekhute8737
@katsosekhute8737 16 күн бұрын
Chile,will there ever be a video of people appreciating both black woman and praising their skills withou putting one against each other😞
@temisanpopo8036
@temisanpopo8036 7 күн бұрын
are you related to mysticgotjokes?
@enfpchick
@enfpchick Ай бұрын
Great video!
@ManuelGuzman067
@ManuelGuzman067 Ай бұрын
Rumors there Both Changes 😁
@user-tl8hp4kt3z
@user-tl8hp4kt3z Ай бұрын
Actually no Venus is prolly the greatest tennis player of all time next to Serena she sick like not dying but she has a weak system that causes her to be weak not gain weight gain muscle etc etc Serena didn’t have that so I think that alone caused her to you know she was out there weak still dominating Every doubles match you see who was the captain Serena even knows Venus better What separates Serena is the goku mentality she want you at your best so she can compete she thrives off competition all her losses 195 fucking wins 35 losses she bet herself
@whatevergoesforme5129
@whatevergoesforme5129 Ай бұрын
How could the dad predict the sex of his children? He said he wanted 2 more daughters. What if he was given two more sons?
@ChristiansCourt
@ChristiansCourt 26 күн бұрын
i have no idea… Richard was definitely an interesting character lol
@marsjup964
@marsjup964 Ай бұрын
Venus has an illness but she keeps trying.
@cloudom2418
@cloudom2418 9 сағат бұрын
Roid
@akizaizinskii
@akizaizinskii Ай бұрын
I like Serena and the series, but the constant narrative by ESPN that she is the greatest tennis player of all time is pretty wild and clearly US bias and propaganda. She doesn’t hold a single tennis record that is used as a metric in the GOAT debates. Not the most Slams, nor the most weeks at #1, nor the most year-end #1s, nor the most titles, nor the best career win %. She didn’t have the highest peak as a tennis players (those clearly go to Graf and Navratilova) nor was she the most consistent player (that would be Graf and Evert). She lost in the first week of one third of the Slams that she played in, that’s pretty bad for an all time great honestly. And most importantly, she never won the Calendar Slam, which other GOAT tier players like Court and Graf have. If we take out all the bias and judge Serena the way Djokovic is judged in the GOAT debate for men, then it’s clear as day that Graf is the GOAT for women and Djokovic for men. After Steffi, Navratilova and Court are also clearly more accomplished than Serena. You could argue Evert as well but Serena is ahead of her in several big categories. So definitely top 5 all time, you could even make an argument for top 3 if we take into consideration Court’s AO titles, but most certainly not the greatest of all time. Nothing against Serena, but calling her the GOAT is just flat out disrespectful towards Steffi Graf.
@ChristiansCourt
@ChristiansCourt Ай бұрын
Serena literally does have more slams than Steffi though…
@akizaizinskii
@akizaizinskii Ай бұрын
@@ChristiansCourt Serena has ONE more Slam than Steffi despite playing for 12 years longer. Steffi won 22 of the 54 Slams she played, Serena won 23 of 83. Steffi won the Golden Calendar Slam in 1988 (all 4 majors in 1 year + the Olympics), which is THE single biggest achievement in the history of the game, male or female. She is the only player in the 150 year history of tennis to achieve this. Steffi has 377 weeks at #1 (all time women’s record), Serena has 319 weeks (4th best). Steffi finished 8 years out of 16 played as the #1 (all time record), Serena finished 5 of her 24 years on tour as #1 (tied 3rd best). Steffi won nearly 50% of the tournaments she played in her career (all time record, male or female). Serena won 28%. Tying into that, Steffi won 107 tournaments compared to Serena’s 73, even though Steffi played way less than Serena. Steffi has a 90% win rate (2nd best all time, male or female). Serena won 84%, which is a huge margin among all time greats and Serena is 7th in that category among women and not even top 10 overall. Steffi won 6 Slams on all surfaces, another all time record, male or female. She also won all of the Slams 4 times, another all time record male or female. Steffi’s dominance was unparalleled. She had FIVE seasons in which she won 3 or more Slams (all time record male or female). Serena had only two such years. Steffi’s consistency was also unmatched. She had a 90% or higher win rate in 11 of her 16 seasons, while Serena had only 5 of her 24 seasons. I could go on and on, but to sum up, just because you win one more Slam (despite playing for 12 years longer) doesn’t make you automatically better. Is Osaka a greater player than Barty or Davenport because she has 1 more Slam? Of course not because they outperform her in every single category. The same is true for Graf. Djokovic isn’t the GOAT because he has the most Slams. He’s the GOAT because he holds the vast majority of tennis records, like Graf.
@mattliechty1269
@mattliechty1269 Ай бұрын
The stabbing inflated Steffi’s slam count as it eliminated her only serious competition. 11 of Court’s 24 slams came at the AO, which was more like a national championship, as many of the top competitors outside of Australia did not travel there. True, champions can only play against those that compete, but there is something to say about quality of competition. Chris & Martina had to beat each other. Serena had Venus, plus peak Hingis, Davenport, Capriati, Henin, Clijsters, Sharapova, Azarenka - many more GS champions & number 1s. Steffi had the luxury of cleaning house & racking up wins when her only true threat had been oh so conveniently removed from competition. Djoker is the GOAT not ONLY because he has the records, but also because he beat more GOATS & greats while GETTING those records. Unlike Graf.
@deusexmachina9776
@deusexmachina9776 Ай бұрын
@@mattliechty1269 why do people act like only Steffi benefited? as if Seles couldn't have shut down Serena and Venus?
@kofipokuantwi-boateng5446
@kofipokuantwi-boateng5446 Ай бұрын
​@akizaizinskii If Margaret Court is ahead of Serena, why isn't she ahead of Steffi? Because she has more slams and 85 more singles titles than Steffi as well as other doubles titles. And the way you try to sneak Steffi in to every important category is funny. Chris Evert has the best Wining percentage, not Steffi and Chris. Navratilova had the best winning percentage in a calendar year, and most dominant period by any woman between 1982-1986. And also what shows Steffi would have won more slams if she played for 12 more years? She only won one slam after 1996, and was being plagued by injuries. I doubt anyone though Australia open 1999 would be Hingis last slam in singles. You can't predict these things. Serena has the most slam in the open era by a woman which is a very important if not the most important metric. Steffi has far less titles than Evert and Navratilova, and also has an inferior winning percentage to Chris Evert, yet you have no problem placing her ahead of them.
@joeysilatory8023
@joeysilatory8023 Ай бұрын
Justin henin stop them both to win us open ❤
@cola7ups823
@cola7ups823 Ай бұрын
Serena was never a better tennis player than Venus. I do not care what the stats say. Venus is a complete player. She serves, volley and have good ground strokes. Plus, she can rally. Serena only had a serve. That is what got her by. Those 200mph serves. If the Aces did not exist and Serena had to rally and actually play tennis, she would have been in trouble.
@annajakl3450
@annajakl3450 Ай бұрын
No i tu widać jakimi chłopcami byli. Po co oszukali ludzi,? I przerobili się na baby?
@jaxbriggs8976
@jaxbriggs8976 Ай бұрын
That is why Serena is a mother to a child where is your logic ? Jealosy is a disease.
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