Why Sheev Palpatine is the Greatest Star Wars Character of all Time

[@williamcooper8599]

The prequel era is amazing. Even if you didn’t like the films, you gotta admit the lore is pretty interesting

[@psiklops71]

good vs evil all fantasy movies based on this like LOTR harry potter Star wars it's all the same

[@samhenson8177]

Palpatine’s story in the prequels is what single handedly secures them as crucial masterpieces in the Star Wars saga, and for that reason I will not hear any “the prequels suck” nonsense

[@nickyman5557]

Everything that doesn’t have to do with him is significantly worse

[@ForageGardener]

The prequels were made too kid-friendly to sell toys. Thats the problem. Should have been more politics and less kid BS and better dialogue for Anakin

[@nickyman5557]

@ they literally kill children

[@cash5512]

Masterpieces is crazy

[@RayAkuma]

This Video was sponsored by: The Galactic Empire

[@jasonleetaiwan]

😂

[@EmperorCaligula_EC]

Probably the best villain of all movies.

[@msm1876]

There’s no probably about it!

[@brianc9374]

Villian?

[@luisgarrido5185]

I think there is a mistake in some part of the video. Palpatine's goal during The Phantom Menace was to unleash political change so he could get elected as Supreme Chancellor. That political change was provoked by the taxation of trade routes and the later blockade/invasion of Naboo. The "essence of the games" or his "cones" (the larger picture) were not the Trade Federation or Nute Gunray. Rather, his cones were located at the core of the Galactic Republic. That is why Palpatine is literally the Phantom Menace. If Amidala signed the treaty legitimizing the invasion of Naboo, or stayed at Coruscant while the Trade Federation controlled the planet, the Clone Wars would have erupted sooner than actually did in Attack of the Clones. But for this outcome to happen Palpatine had to become the next Supreme Chancellor. Second, Padme was right when pointing to Count Dooku as responsible for the attempt on her life at the beginning of Episode II but the real mastermind behind those assasination attempts was Supreme Chancellor Palpatine himself. He wanted to get rid of Padme so the Military Creation Act could be approved.

[@Lord-of-D]

Here's your dub for actually paying attention to the politics in the Prequels, bossman

[@tomcross3000]

You see that Palpatine is rattled more in a deleted AOTC scene where Padme appears in the senate immediately after her attempt like what Typho was referring to with "please, this bill is very important" and she changes the dynamics of the dull debate going on by introducing her assassination attempt with new energy and passion to the discourse saying the bill was the target, wake up! seeming to cause a reaction. Palpatine then feigns concern for her wellbeing, its seriousness and the weariness of the other members in chamber and quickly wraps it up- postponing the vote until he has regained control without her there.

[@TheKeyser94]

For what known of the trivia of the Phantom Menace, and the Prequel Trilogy a whole is that is based on forced trade relations between Japan and the rest of the world, when the Admiral Arthur Perry open the trade by firing the cannons of his ship, and created a civil war between the Shogunate and the Empire supported by the western powers, mostly the U. S. and the British Empire.

[@seanhewitt603]

It's just a movie... It's not really real, you do know that, right?, you're aware you're making a big deal out of a faerytale storybook... aren't you?

[@TheKeyser94]

@@seanhewitt603 A Song of Ice and Fire is a medieval fantasy but it was loosely based on the War of the Roses, that doesn't mean that Star Wars not have some historical base, more when Lucas itself say that he based the conflict between the Trade Federation and Naboo in prior the Meiji era Japan.

[@TonyC-uz5uu]

The eyes are indeed the windows to the soul, with Sidious as with anyone else. This is why he conceals his eyes. Not because he lacks a soul, but because to reveal his eyes would be to reveal that soul, to reveal his true self. Sidious, not Palpatine, is the truth of this man and it is a truth that he can never entirely and honestly reveal to another.

[@ashtongreif5879]

Dude, this channel is SO underrated! You do such a great job breaking down these movies.

[@covfefe95]

Damn congrats on this video, really great analysis on my all time favorite villain ☺️ thank you

[@warborn_inc.]

Solid vid. Read Plageus...if you haven't...its got eveything spelled out in brillant detail. Easily the best SW book published. (along with the Bane Trilogy)

[@jwinnfield9192]

@warborn_inc. Well perhaps after the Bane Trilogy

[@kylesmith8934]

It’s my favorite star wars novel. It sets up everything perfectly.

[@evgenykaplunov5754]

KraziKazi drops another video -- instant like!

[@CarlBrohammer]

Brilliant video

[@StevenHughes-hr5hp]

Darth Jar Jar has always been the greatest Star Wars character. Imagine controlling everyone both Jedi and Sith while standing in the background totally unnoticed.

[@xaikken]

You cant make me imagine that!

[@Clyde-S-Wilcox]

It wasn't funny the first time and it still isn't.

[@phantomjoker1736]

Awesome a 1 hour video ❤

[@MarioWarKing]

WELL DONE. WOW!!!

[@thedude3065]

Growing an army fomenting rebellion and fabricating intergalactic war corralling the Jedi and catching them unaware rest easy in your grave, Plagueis in the end, I will be proclaimed emperor the sith will have had their revenge and I... will rule the galaxy!

[@williamcooper8599]

Is that from Plagueis novel?

[@thedude3065]

@@williamcooper8599 of course

[@williamcooper8599]

@@thedude3065 You are strong and wise and I am very proud of you

[@thedude3065]

@@williamcooper8599 may the Force be with you

[@HeyNimbus]

Yes! I was hoping for a compilation video

[@ianatkinson5509]

thanks for the new content!

[@floriantabaku8567]

Great analyzation, you touched everything in detail

[@lovedavis7376]

He did the thing

[@mranderson9813]

A masterfully made video

[@chrisMc1972]

Love this new channel l just found ❤

[@Nemesislord001]

He’s not the goat, he is the SENATE

[@xaikken]

Excellent video. I always loved the chapter in Plagueis where sheev kills his parents with the force.

[@gumdeo]

"Everything that has transpired has done so according to my design" - dude played everyone else for decades...

[@Scrubermensch]

From the movie sheev is my favorite from the whole SW I love Darth Marr and Darth Plagueis

[@willloveless9327]

It's chewie. It's always been chewie. Get in the house

[@JP-pp2tn]

the reason for Palpatine being great is because of ian's performance and betrayal of Palpatine, if it was anyone else it wouldn't be that great of a character

[@sentryogmixmaster]

i ❤ how dumb the younger internet-raised generations are. i get many good laughs at their expense. i believe the word they are looking for here is 'portrayal' not 'betrayal'. 🤣

[@sitharisidious-si6nh]

We all witnessed the Skywalker Saga, who agrees we observe the Palpatine saga?

[@juniorberns]

He's not the goat he's the emperor. The goat is the one that got taken on the goat trail

[@thatredhead3613]

Love the video but didn't Lucas say the mace windu genuinely won the duel and that sheve wasn't faking it?

[@jwinnfield9192]

Yeah that’s what happened. The galaxy would have been spared the Empire if not for Anakin’s immaturity and impetuousness.

[@liaml.e.5964]

Long live the Empire!!!

[@HighLordCrypto8951]

damn this was really good!

[@misanthropicattackhelicopt4148]

Just noticed when Anakin turns to the darkside and gets up and moves towards the desk he is completely in shadow no details at all. Just a black void.

[@user-otzlixr]

Because he loves democracy

[@SunG0D936]

"I love democracy" He means it too, because he knows democracy is what opens the door to..... *U N L I M I T E D* *P O W E R R R R R R R R*

[@BlackMaleSpirituality]

Some of the worst people in history had democratic/popular support.

[@MrTrancelator]

There are two things that mar this otherwise excellent portrayal of Palpatine's character: - His plan to lure the Rebellion into a trap was not born out of arrogance - it was a very reasonable plan. He knew that Luke grew so strong in the force that turning him to the dark side would require a tremendous effort. By making Luke face the impending demise of his friends and the fall of the Rebellion, Palpatine wanted to drive Luke to despair, which would open his mind to the dark side. And his plan worked... until the very last moment when Luke cut off Vader's hand, only to realize that he was doing the same thing that Vader did to him, and pulled himself back in time to avoid getting trapped in the dark side. Palpatine's hubris led him to believe that Luke's short immersion into the Dark Side would be enough to convert him. - Trying to describe him as the manifestation of the seven sins is a stretch at best. For example, when you speak about "sloth", you misunderstand why he delegated power to his underlings. Establishing the Empire was only a stepping stone for Palpatine. What he really wanted was the ability to pursue his studies of the Dark Side without the meddling of the Jedi - he wanted to learn the secret of immortality. Not in the form of a bodiless existence, but true physical immortality. To achieve this goal, he needed a capable government and military that could deal with the day-to-day matters of the Empire. (On a side note: the Tarkin doctrine was not as misguided as many fans believe: Palpatine knew that even the 25 thousand Star Destroyers of the Empire were not enough to maintain peace and order in the Galaxy. He needed the Death Star so it could play the same role as the nuclear weapons during the cold war, although in this case the threat of total annihilation was unilateral. The deterrence that the Battle Station offered and the Imperial bureaucracy would have allowed Palpatine to focus his attention on discovering the deepest secrets of the Force.)

[@CKpremium1992]

that opening guitar was pretty sick

[@CYBERJASE]

I don't know if Palpatine/Sidious is the best character in the SW movies, it depends on the preferences of the audience really. But I think that Palpatine/Sidious is without a doubt the best villain in cinema (in the worst case scenario he would be in the top 3 villains). The reason is that he is extremely powerful in the force, but very intelligent and cunning at the same time!

[@countcampula]

Most fleshed out character/ politician besides Anakin, but Anakin's character is based on a reverse hero's journey which isn't nearly as complicated as palpy. Likewise Luke is just the hero's journey. Palpy stands out, in that he's not a 2D villain, he has ideas and points and an ideology he's open about. He feels like a person, albeit a self centered one.

[@ronryan7398]

Anakin’s path to the Dark Side began with his slaughter of the Sand People

[@ChristopherJames1993]

Palpatine is playing chess. Everyone else playing Yahtzee.

[@malusnavis5222]

Palpatine is playing in 3D geometric wormhole quantum chess, while everyone else is suck trying to fit a square block into a round hole.

[@ChristopherJames1993]

​@@malusnavis5222ha yeah. Imagine if one side of WWII had a guy like this leading them. They'd have been guaranteed victory.

[@phillipkarcher2281]

Palps is plating competitive starcraft while everyone else be playin twister

[@NuevoExistence]

The boy needed understanding. This isn''t really anakins fault. They helped eff him.

[@jimbrown5091]

For whatever there is to dislike about the prequels ( and there is plenty) the Palpatine arc and Ian McDiarmid's acting help elevate them...

[@ianatkinson5509]

Absolute travesty that he isn’t getting the recognition he deserves

[@mikegamerofsparta]

i hope they make a movie or a series of palpatine about his up bring on naboo how he meet plagueis how he been trained that be interesting going into phantom mence how he killed his master and he becomes Dark Lord of the Sith.

[@Pulivari124]

So Uncivilized has a video with almost the same exact title.

[@thewanderingrambler7420]

The darksides Victory took a thousand years of planning and lasted less then 30 years. The Darkness is strong but a single candle can drive it Back.

[@hpatss4966]

This easily could’ve been longer

[@Jackyll-x3o]

I love Mace, but I can't blame Anakin for what he did. He was put in a messed up situation, at his most fragile and unsure. You're a Jedi, you have a code, and you have to follow it, no matter what, or it's pointless. Anakin believed in the code, and he was constantly watching it being broken by the highest Jedi, or being asked to break it by them. The Chancellor himself pretty much demands that Anakin straight up execute a literally unarmed Sith, who poses no further threat. He protests, at first, saying "I shouldn't do this. This isn't the Jedi way.". After that, the Jedi council asks him to spy on a government official, and he says, "This isn't the Jedi way.". Then, he sees Mace Windu about to kill the government official, Sith or not, and again he says, "This is not the Jedi way. He must be kept alive." The Jedi did more to push him to the dark side than Palpatine ever could have. Anakin made a split second decision, trying to save Padme at that point, because in Anakin's eyes, the Jedi aren't any less evil than the Sith, so he chose to save Palpatine. The Jedi really failed Anakin, he really needed a good example, he needed Jedi actually following their own code, showing they actually have these values and principles they claim to have, making them the "good guys". He was in a no win situation, and he immediately regretted what he did. He knew there was no going back, all he could do at that point was do whatever it took to save Padme. Why even bother caring about anything else? He was shown that there aren't any "good guys", just a bunch of liars and hypocrites. I think the Jedi are the king of stupid, tbh💁🏻‍♀️ They were basically unintentional allies of the Sith😂

[@JohnSmithAaargh]

Original Trilogy made Palps a legend. Prequel Trilogy made Palps realistic. He’s basically a Malignant Narcissist.

[@Jacky-zt5ch]

He was so well written I was rooting for him the whole hexalogy.

[@Emperor_of_Sands]

I would argue he is the greatest villain in cinema history. The writing in the films don’t give him justice in how twisted and deranged he truly is.

[@lukasvahle110]

i am the senate

[@jasongann8535]

Thank you for not talking about Episode IX. It nullifies your mistake that Palpatine was the actual Phantom Menace in Episode I.

[@MattSinz]

Kreia is the greatest Star Wars character of all time.

[@HolyNorthAmericanEmpire]

No.

[@MattSinz]

@@HolyNorthAmericanEmpire Yes.

[@artbunker]

She is in the top 5.

[@StefanWinchester]

She's top 5 along with darth bane, obi wan, and plaguies

[@enigmaticglo]

@@StefanWinchester king adas

[@warandconquest6522]

Great arguments but you’re forgetting one massive detail: all of this was part of Darth Jar Jar’s plan

[@bombsczech4338]

During phantom menace didnt Obiwan sensed death of Plagius At start of video

[@Reddit1872]

No commentary on palpatine’s role in 7-9?

[@BlackMaleSpirituality]

Those don’t count, lol.

[@dylanstrader256]

What about his power to some how return?

[@liaml.e.5964]

There are no sequels in Ba Sing Ze :D

[@EricGraham94]

Whatever are you talking about?

[@theflorgeormix]

More Darth Maul needed in this movie, but he had no chance

[@philv2529]

Palpatine conquered the entire galaxy all by himself. could Yoda do that?

[@ProjectRedfoot]

I thought that thumbnail was Julian Assange

[@FilthyPagan-g3r]

*Sees video title* Me: "I love democracy"

[@patrikson9348]

?

[@bolojohnson711]

Space marine 1 and 2 with the character titus

[@watchvidjedi]

He was NEVER Sheev, or Steve.... He was Palpatine and Sidious.

[@CypherDND]

Palpatine IS Sheev. Sheev Palpatine is his name.

[@watchvidjedi]

@@CypherDND Not unless you did SW homework! Was he Sheev in the Plagueis book (I forget) or just post Disney? If post Disney, he is Steve the brummie sith!! lol

[@CypherDND]

​@@watchvidjediGeorge Lucas intended to give him the name Sheev in the Underworld TV series, but the series was never made. In Plagueis the name was kept a mystery, but in the 2014 Tarkin novel he was given it officially. So it's post Disney...but from George himself. So it kind of breaks even lol.

[@TGPDrunknHick]

@@CypherDND we've been calling him sheev 'the senate' Palpatine for over a decade at this point.

[@Collin4486]

Wrong. Also, turn the bass down from 10.

[@thegentlemanfish7504]

Hot take: Palpatine did nothing wrong

[@aurorauplinks]

he had a knack for building holes for things to go into. That proved to be... his downfall.

[@BrotherCaptain36]

​@@aurorauplinksTake your like and get out.

[@phillipkarcher2281]

That take so hot that if Anakin fell in that instead of a lava pit the result would be the same

[@aurorauplinks]

@@BrotherCaptain36 thank you lol.

[@wingy200]

@@phillipkarcher2281 Ironic. He could save others from falling into things, but not himself.

[@perryperryprince3242]

Damn they made Gunrau Asian as hell

[@jwinnfield9192]

Did he somehow become the goat?

[@phorz85]

So, after u said this about luke as well , how am i supposed to take any opinion u utter seriously, meaning as how u genuinly think about the character? "Greatest" is a superlative. It tops all it's compaired with. Per definition, there can't b more than 1 because then, it would stop being superior, making it a wrong statement. I write this beforehand, to be frank. In the unlikely case that u have adressed that n declare ur luke video bs, obsolete or admit that this at the end is a lie because of the other, just ignore the comment. Tho' i guess that's not going to happen, so whatever u say n however well thought through n eloquently explained ur point is at the end, it has to mean jack shit in one because of the other of those two videos. Since that could work in either way, it makes this true for both of'em,congratulations.

[@alphabetaxenonzzzcat]

Palpatine did nothing wrong. Under him the Empire prospered - look at how it degenerated under the Rebels.

[@ryantannar5301]

If we only count movies, sure. If we count the entire universe idk how anybody could be out Darth Revan. Im just starting the video so maybe my mind will change

[@ThvnaCr]

I disagree, kreia is way better, even though palpatine is my second fav

[@JeffreyAllanBackowski]

Every time you say GOAT is a lowkey HAIL LUCIFER!

[@vxvx6240]

No hes not, revan is the greatest char

[@KayiWuzurg]

palpatine = putin? coincidence? i think not?

[@DioBrandoWRYYYYYY]

He is easily the best character in the prequel trilogy, and really the issue with the prequels is that the other characters are kinda flimsy. Like am I really supposed to take Padme's "political acumen" seriously?

[@Brandoloian]

Facts and logic, don’t mesh well against emotion and trust.

[@bobkielbasa7500]

That's not nice calling him a goat.

[@relhek]

Nahh. Greatest villain ever. He literally ruled the galaxy and got elected legally.

[@Charlie-f4q4o]

No sory your rong

[@TheKeyser94]

Sheev is really a stupid name, it better simply be called Palpatine.

[@KennethKaniff999]

Heresy

[@agenticmark]

agreed. name one place where this name is used in the movies or the book. He is Palpatine as the senator and later Emperor, and Sideous when he is showing his dark nature.

[@eamonnmulhern2332]

Donald Trump has been watching

[@SaltyCalhoun]

He only wins because everyone else is a moron. Dooku is tone more interesting.

[@erikelliott8015]

Where's the part where he terrorized the Galaxy with Final Order?

[@miguelmanellablanco9095]

What's a final order?

[@erikelliott8015]

@@miguelmanellablanco9095 The Sith Eternal's equivalent of the First Order.

[@liaml.e.5964]

There are no sequels in Ba Sing Ze :D

[@erikelliott8015]

@@liaml.e.5964 Joo Dee from ATLA was literally a liar, like that's point of the character. Also every film that takes place after the original is a sequel, Empire Strikes Back and Return of the Jedi are sequels.

[@liaml.e.5964]

@@erikelliott8015 I can see you cannot handle abstraction, or are unwilling. Apologies.

[@EternaITruths]

He’s the most stereotypical archetypal villain ever, he’s evil for the sake of being evil and has no redeeming qualities. He’s not even close to the best character and neither is Luke (who is the archetypal hero), we all know who the best character is…

[@JensErikAndreasen]

Yes……. JAR JAR BINKS

[@th3dudeabides1]

Since the show sucks so much now, being the goat in sw is like being the prettiest Dennys waitress

[@HarryDirtay]

Okay big boy. Are you grumpy cause It's nap time?

[@erichmyles4481]

Damn, the new characters don't make the old characters worse and be nice to Dennys waitresses

[@rolandmorrison8224]

Sidious is an archetype of the coming Dark Ruler masquerading as a Lightbearer. This conclusion is so obvious that I believe George Lucas was using his insight into the Bible to be cute through this movie. The ways things are proceeding even today seem to forecast a reality consisting of manipulated kingdoms fighting each other culminating in a final evil kingdom or "Empire" that will seem necessary and good at first. Was Georgie trying to be slick? Did he make this series for the true hidden rulers of this world? DId he plagiarize Revelation? We may never know.

[@TheKeyser94]

Actually by Lucas words itself, he based The Phantom Menace and the conflict between Naboo and the Trade Federation, Japan prior the Meiji era, when the U. S. and the British Empire forced Japan to open their trade relationship with the Admiral Arthur Perry shooting his cannons to Kyoto, beginning the civil war between the Shogunate and the Empire (that had the support and the weapons of the U. S. and the British Empire).

[@stanalex4544]

Mate it's supposed to be the Roman Empire. Not everyone is a schizo for desert fairy tales about magical hebrews.

[@tomcross3000]

You're not meant to root for the villain and be converted to right wing fascism lol But with how you refer to him as the senate, accepting his cartoonish terminology, it seems like you are doing at least one of those. Also must disagree with one other point, the "heroes on both sides" debacle. Now i'm an old boy, i was 12 when ROTS came out, i remember the confusion and embarrassment at that text in the titles, because proper english requires you not to attribute positive characteristics to a negative action/subject. The opening text is from the view of a news bulletin, a simple passive onlooker watching everything that's happening and reporting it in a digestible, simple way. It's always very specific about good vs evil, giving accurate and clear adjectives for them. But when you say that conquerers and enslavers of worlds and mass killers of various innocent beings, deserters of the legitimate galactic government, terrorists and committers of high treason with their legions of robots and generals- are heroes? This never made sense, still doesn't. I would even argue against saying they are brave in any way on that side because that's still using a positive term to describe a negative, villainous force- it's not brave if it is in service of greed, treachery, misery, bloodlust. That is how the CIS has been portrayed. It was not until 2011? when there was finally, we think, a worthwhile explanation for that quote, with the TCW episode using the quote as the title. The example given in it being a senator/representative from each side wishing to come together, draw up a ceasefire and begin negotiations. Its the first and last time we see an indication of any positive deed from the CIS. Oh and a minor point, Sidious didn't disfigure himself, he unmasked himself. For years actually carefully using makeup and other methods (Obi wan was seen having his whole face altered with a serum in TCW to look like Hardeen, so anything is possible now in this regard) to hide his true, degraded, decayed form from the public.. You see, you don't get rotting fingernails, sunken eyes, grey skin, rotted teeth- from lightning and the burning damage that entails.

[@chadarcher13]

the heroes on both sides is accurate and relevant... you have to remember that the crux of Star Wars is "point of view" and from the separatists POV there ARE heroes on their side... remember that at large the separatists aren't some cackling enemy camp, they had legitimate beef with the corruption of the republic and wanted real change, they had their own senate and governance and elected leaders, the fact that they were created and manipulated by the Sith is irrelevant through the lens that the majority of the people comprising the confederacy were just regular people that wanted better for their planets and families.

[@tomcross3000]

@@chadarcher13 which is not ever shown or mentioned in the films. We literally just see a cackling camp, that wants Amidala's head, that sentenced three republic members to death by exotic monsters without a fair trial, and created a secret mass army of battle droids and illegal wmd's. No use reciting what you know now 10-20 years later, i know they tried to fix it, i even cited the example but its not as simple as there just being "points of view". Gg is described as "fiendish".. in ep4 the empire is described as "evil", their agents are "sinister". in ep5 Vader is described as "evil". Throughout, the rebels are described as "brave", "struggling to restore freedom to the galaxy", referred to as "freedom fighters". One side always knew it was evil, one side knew it was good, there were no heroes on both sides, just one side. So let's be clear, my argument was there was no precedent for the crawl to be so neutral as to suggest that both sides are the same in their struggle and in the same breath call one side's leaders "fiendish" and "ruthless". That's called not being clear and concise with the english language.

[@wingy200]

@@tomcross3000 Hear me out. What if the Star Wars films are just propaganda history (a long time ago in a galaxy far far away) written by the victors; the so-called "freedom fighters" of the Rebel Alliance? 😂

[@tomcross3000]

@@wingy200 Well that is a good point! it can also be like archive footage or recorded accounts of events from the time period just played/reenacted, documentary.. Then ofcourse the sequels really stretch that creative license >

[@wingy200]

@@tomcross3000 Yeah lol. The sequels ruin the theory, but I was thinking about how the Tudors treated King Richard III and how their propaganda influenced the historical record.

[@jasongriffin1517]

Palpatine is one of the most obviously evil characters to ever appear on screen. Every single time he appeared you could just tell he's a slimy prick. He's not cool or interesting. He's a geriatric politician. Sith used to eat planets and be too angry to die. Palpatine pulls strings behind the scenes and argues about laws. I always wished we had a better villain in the OG trilogy. He's just so lame I can't take him seriously.

[@SpeakerTerenus]

Comedicly overpowered Legends characters always one-upping each other are lame. You're welcome to love that stuff, but it's practically fan fiction. Each character exists to influence a specific world in a specific manner by many different authors. That's why power levels are so ridiculous and variable in Legends. "This is da strongest guy doing da strongest most evil thing eva" - "Nooooo, THIS GUY is da strongest, he eats PLANETS" - "WELL, THIIIIS GUY wears invincible armor after being experimented on by da evil aliens from outside da Star Wars galaxy!!" Bleh, I say.

[@jasongriffin1517]

@@SpeakerTerenus I understand the subtlety and realism of a villain like Palpatine, but that doesn't stop it from being uninteresting.

[@SpeakerTerenus]

@@jasongriffin1517 WELL I Disagree.

[@logat1847]

@@SpeakerTerenus This is legends biggest issue and there was a missed window of opportunity during the Disney purchase to skim the best ideas and bring everything back down to a realistic level.

[@thetruth4654]

He really isn’t he is the least interesting character in Star Wars, And his plot is so incredibly convuluted and stupid. Only reason his plans end up working is because we started with 4-6 So 1-3 tries so hard to make it make sense how Palpatine became the Emperor, but it really doesn’t A lot of the minor Sith lords are far more interesting then Palpatine, Bane, Raven, Exar Kun, Nihlus are all far more interesting then Palpatine.

[@KayiWuzurg]

ok nerd

[@fantasymangacomicvisionary5688]

That the Difference between StarWars Fans and GoT Fans because if Palpatine/Lord Sidious was within George R.R. Martin ASOIAF/GoT Story, then he would be hands down Greatest Character playing the Game Of Thrones period, not dislike because majority doesn't like or can follow the Politics. But the reality is GoT Book Readers Fans are way more Loyal and Smarter than StarWars Fans who call Disney B.S Canon over George Lucas Work. That could never happen for HBO/WB with GoT Fans saying their story is Canon over George R.R. Martin. Also Qui Gon Jinn was another Fake Jedi just like Dooku, Syfo Diaz and Anakin who doom the Jedi because they didn't believe within the Jedi Code like True Jedi Knights in Yoda, Mace Windu and Obi-Wan believe in that totally destroyed the Sith on the break of Extinction.