Why Dooku Was FAR From a Sympathetic Antagonist: Peeling Off the Mask

[@Trollge398]

Shows how much of an great politician Dooku is. He even fooled the entire fan base even as an fictional character

[@Purified_Water_Enjoyer]

11/10 politician

[@mrzirak792]

That's what happens when you are a Brit Knight and Saruman as well

[@JohnSmith-wx9wj]

​@@mrzirak792The voice

[@adarkwind4712]

Bruh I've been against this whole bs about him being a sympathetic villain from the start. It's been crazy.

[@ryuukeisscifiproductions1818]

to be fair, if you have only seen the star wars movies, they dont go that in depth into his character, and the majority of star wars fans never got that deep into legends.

[@chrilpy]

Thinks the Jedi are becoming corrupt politicians *leaves to become a corrupt politician*

[@VengeanceN7]

" Congratulations, you played yourself" - palpatine, or someone probably

[@pancakes8670]

A lot of people forget Dooku was in fact a pretty bad person. Like just because he accurately criticized the Jedi doesn't mean he was any better himself.

[@thepoliticalgunnut8018]

"Suffer not the Xeno to live." -High Marshall Dooku of the Black templars

[@jiyuhong5853]

lol, so he's hellbreach

[@thepoliticalgunnut8018]

@jiyuhong5853 (Helbrecht)

[@kellygreenii]

He became a Sith Lord. Enough said. But like Anakin, we see the influence of a flawed character, the influence of The Dark Side, AND the machinations of one of the most purely evil characters in fiction (Lucas said his inspiration for Palpatine was The Devil)…. …and the result is we see a basically good man with good intentions get corrupted to the point he becomes the corruption he intended to destroy. The Abyss stated into him and found him wanting. I think it is human nature to feel some compassion for someone who set out to do good but got lost, as opposed to a monster like Palpatine who is drive by pure malice and selfishness.

[@JapanCloneTrooper]

Geetsly, could you do a video contrasting Alpha-17 and Rex? Essentially they were supposed to be the same character with the name changed just because there would have been too many main characters whose names started with A. Both clones are among the best in the clone army and right-hand men to Anakin Skywalker, yet they become different men. They’re basically representative of the differences between Legends and Canon Clones.

[@rrensdenn4382]

Anyone think qui-gon kept obi-wan away from dooku when he was young because he saw through his masters mask, but still held out hope.....it's like a man blocking his dad from meeting his son to protect them both......

[@Andrea-nom]

Yes in Jedi Tales we see Qui Gon seeing him clearly

[@dreadrath]

Qui-Gon and Rael were both concerned about Dooku's occasional brushes with the dark side, as was Sifo and Sifo's master (Can't recall her name). All four of them knew Dooku could use Sith Lightning when he got angry or desperate enough, heck he used lightning so save Qui-Gon once, and also to save himself and Sifo from a dark side cult, but all of them decided that it was okay because he was so self-disciplined that he could keep that darkness in check, which was sort of true until Palpatine came into the picture and started messing with his head. But really, in hindsight they might have been better served by tattling on Dooku to Yoda. But yeah, Qui-Gon might have been a little wary of Dooku. Still its Qui-Gon's death that really broke Dooku.

[@virgiljianu7166]

​@@Andrea-nom Yeah, and something tells me that is wasn't the first time something like that happened.

[@andreykuzmin4317]

Great video about Signature Look of Superiority. Probably one of your best, Geetsly.

[@jakemerchant950]

So, Dooku's ideal galaxy would basically be 40K's Imperium of Man.

[@seb2750]

High Marshal Dooku: PURGE THE XENOS!

[@JaelaOrdo]

Even if he wasn’t particularly sympathetic he still has maybe my favorite lightsaber in Star Wars (tied with Roblio Darté) and mastered the best lightsaber form.

[@tweso1499]

A fellow man of culture here

[@based4560]

The way he fights makes me feel like he's dancing

[@dreadrath]

He's the only character that could ever look cool fighting in his pajamas.

[@overlordelektro7940]

The worst part was that Yoda didnt Care when he found out that Anakin killed him as he believed that Dooku died a long time ago.

[@Lawrence_Talbot]

What honestly amazes me is that they were so ready for the war to end and certain it would with Dooku’s death, nobody on the council thought to have Anakin personally debrief them the details. There’s a big difference between slaying an enemy in battle and having him at your mercy to stand trial, only to decapitate him because the Chancellor tells you to.

[@overlordelektro7940]

@Lawrence_Talbot i see your point Anakin was reluctant to kill Dooku and Palpatine forced his hands, while Dooku just glared at Palpatine in disbelief before pleading Anakin for mercy, even after, Anakin couldn't live down the fact that he killed Dooku not just because it was against the Jedi code but also because it lead him to question his life as a hero.

[@Omnipulsar]

@@Lawrence_Talbot one can argue that if anakin didn't listen to palpatine then palpatine could manipulate events to make it look like the jedi are acting outside the interest of the republic, the same way palpatine would of manipulated events in that way had the jedi not expelled ahsoka to hand over to the republic

[@Lawrence_Talbot]

@@Omnipulsar my point is on the Jedi’s lack of debrief not on Anakin’s lack of refusing Palps. Had they actually asked Anakin to detail what happened instead of Obi Wan simply telling them what happened (despite being unconscious when it happened), they could’ve A) been more alerted to Anakin’s tipping into the Dark Side and B) been more alerted to Palpatine being the Sith. Instead they simply shrugged off a very big hint because they were just glad the war would end soon

[@zexalbrony4799]

@@overlordelektro7940 You make good points about Anakin. As the passage Geetsly read pointed out, even with how much anger he had for Dooku for all the war he started had caused to his friends and the Galaxy as a whole he still was holding back somewhat, even after seeing Obi-Wan go down, despite many of the Dark Side tendency he had he always tried his best to keep those things in check even when Obi-Wan, Padme, Ahsoka, or someone else wasn't around to keep him in check, because he did want to be a good Jedi like Qui-Gon and Obi-Wan, but of course, Palaptine had to get involved at this moment, and like all things Palpatine gets involved in he ensure the worst outcome can happen, he did it with the war, he did it with the Republic, and he did it with his apprentices.

[@EricGraham94]

Given that Lorian Nod threw Dooku under the bus for stealing a holocron… it almost parallels Barriss Offee throwing Ahsoka under the bus for bombing the Jedi Temple.

[@yokai333]

If you asked dooku for sympathy, he will toss the galactic dictionary at you, telling you where it is: between (quack) and (quack)

[@Purified_Water_Enjoyer]

48 minutes of my favorite character ?!? Time to busy out the popcorn 🍿!

[@velociraptor3313]

I would say in the beginning he had good intentions, I understand his frustration with the Jedi order and the problems with the Republic. Sometimes I wonder what if Dooku stayed in the Jedi Order and tried to do everything he could to help? Or what if he tried to become chancellor instead and introduce reforms to help people and deal with corruption in the Republic? There are so many things that he could have done differently but instead he is manipulated by Palpatine and becomes another pawn for his plan.

[@SpiderJack99]

He may have started out sympathetic but he lost all sympathy after TPM.

[@gdragonlord749]

I still see him as sympathetic but because he is a great example of good men walking into hell thinking they are doing good. One day you look into the mirror to see a monster only to reject the truth staring back at you. That is why his story is sad. No by all means, his actions are not forgivable. Sympathetic does not mean good guy

[@notthefbi7015]

@@gdragonlord749the point he was never a good man, he never possessed compassion he only cared for his image. Any good he did was to feed his own ego and make himself look better. He was a literal facist

[@DoneBrokeDatBack]

He's proof that a lot of roads to hell are paved with good intentions. He sincerely felt the common people of the galaxy were being more and more forgotten in favor of those with power and money (credits), wanted to change that and the Order and ended up falling to the Dark Side once Palpatine wormed his way into his brain.

[@roycehuepers4325]

​@gdragonlord749 except he wasn't a good man. Unlike Anakin who turned because he wanted to save everyone he cared for, so does fit your description, Dooku was a human supremacist .

[@FriendlyBatDoom]

Finally, someone called him out. He's not sympathetic. Dooku was a racist mass-murdering hypocrite who enslaved planets. Those same planets like Ryloth where he ordered that they use the Twi'leks as human shields when Mace Windu (actual hero) and Obi-Wan came to liberate them.

[@davidordaz5251]

I have my issues with windu and obi wan but least they wanted to save people besides dooku who didnt care what happened to the people as long as sidious and dooku got their way

[@morgothastartes]

Based Dooku, suffer not alien to live

[@lightningboltt5437]

Fr, he was a brutal sith lord as bad as vader and malgus

[@Alpha_Digamma]

They're calld HUMAN rights for a reason. ~ Doku, problably

[@bernardoayres1139]

@@davidordaz5251 your issues are due to the fact these were not perfect men. They made mistakes and even did things that were stupid, but both had their hearts in the right place. Good for ya! Many fans will outright execuse the clear villains, (who are evil, know that and even enjoy it) simply because the heroes are not saints

[@SsgtTucker]

Imagine how different things would've been if Obi-Wan woke back up after Dooku knocked him out. Obi-Wan probably would've saved Dooku, and maybe (big emphasis on maybe) gotten Dooku to confess something about Palpatine

[@defenderofthenorth52]

I think there’s a difference between canon Dooku and Legends Dooku after Tales of the Jedi 😂😂 Yeah I’ve read the Revenge of the Sith novelization, Dooku is a MONSTER

[@based4560]

Dooku was more of an idealist in canon who got manipulated whereas in legends he was more of a person seeking power while disguising it under fighting against the corruption of the republic.

[@djashovel]

I do have to say Star Wars, the clone wars, followed the trend of just making him a villain. They never showed anything of his Conflictions or the reasons why he joined sidious And with tales of a jedi They may have touched on it A little bit, but It actually makes it worse because there's a contradiction between his character and how he's betrayed. Between both shows It's one of the problems I have with the clone wars

[@davidordaz5251]

I can agree though wish they did show more of his motivations and emotions when he joined sidious

[@muhamedquraishi]

He was essentially a block of ice. A sociopath.

[@Yang_1230]

I always saw dooku a clinical Psychopath not a sociopath because sociopaths can feel all forms of emotions especially love and compassion but psychopaths can’t and they pretend to feel those emotions Palpatine is a clear sociopath but Dooku is definitely a Psychopath

[@indianajones4321]

I’m always seeing Dooku as evil for kicking the bodies of Commander Thorn and a Shock trooper on Scipio

[@marshalllatta2073]

He is always One step ahead of his opponents l love it

[@inyourgranmaass3605]

Except palpatine

[@pullo5518]

​@@inyourgranmaass3605Palps is always several Steps ahead of everyone.

[@superblasto8547]

When you help kill hundreds of you former comrades in Attack Of The Clones and not bat an eye - then you're evil personified and deserve no pity & understanding.

[@andreasschaeflein4233]

By the time of revenge of the sith he lost all sympathy

[@Snailsareawesome-yb5hl]

I agree

[@Ali.Djuhic]

this video needs to go viral it is an amazing analysis for one most interesting star wars charakters

[@lordkonzilla7890]

Tyrannus did not have a superiority complex, he simply was superior

[@mentalmandolorian5723]

29:58 Bro at the back of the senate pod look more like Sidious than Palpatine does

[@wonderquestor]

I thought Palps was space Hitler. Dooku was more of a space Himmler

[@grahamhill676]

If we look at the movies only it isnt the case that he's evil. He's first and foremost a pragmatist. He disagrees with the Jedi. He disagrees with Sidious. Like Vader after him he's really a maverick who just uses the Sith partnership as a means to his ends. Although Dooku does plenty bad through his leadership of the seperatists, he also takes no pleasure in killing and senseless violence. He even actively avoids killing, offering the Jedi's surrender on Geonosis, Obi-Wan's recruitment, and takes great displeasure in defeating Anakin & Obi-Wan. He WILL kill virtually anyone, but only if it is neccessary to forward his goals, goals he truly believes in....This is exactly like Anakin (and plenty Jedi), whom we do not consider evil. The novelizations and especially Clone Wars show made him far more sinsiter, selfish, sadistic and cruel...The movies show the opposite. "He's a political idealist, not a murderer" Ki-Adi-Mundi clearly sees him, a former Jedi, as a misguided man who doesn’t isn't quite evil. Whilst Dooku is indeed a murderer, it just shows that those who knew him as having a moral compass. This obviously looks very stupid and stinks of retcon when they showerd him in the Clone Wars basically being a psychopath. Without this he's quite a complex villain, maybe even an anti-villain.

[@pullo5518]

Great analysis of one of the most interesting characters in sw.

[@isaackim7675]

It really makes me curious on what would happen if Obi-Wan actually became Dooku’s apprentice?

[@jaieregilmore971]

No matter the intentions Dooku still a Sith and the dark side is inherently corrupts.

[@Rex-Republic]

Me: *Opens yt for the first after work, first thing I see* "Space Hitler" Also me: Where the hell am I?!

[@Cykeys]

It also doesn't help that Clone Wars has often used humans to represent the more rational, moderate, and sympathetic Separatists while the comically evil ones tend to be aliens. Which is understandable from a narrative standpoint.

[@rex9412]

not all but yeah. trench isn't. he is just shown to be scary to fight because of how good he was at winning now because he was evil or something. but he's the only one that comes to mind.

[@pablosoleramaeso4561]

I think if there is phrase to describe him, it would be this: The way to hell is paved with good intentions.

[@cherrytonshawty9120]

He became evil, surely, but he wasn't always that way. Dooku was a good man before he fell to the Dark Side. He was a very flawed Jedi, but at least he remained in the Light because of Qui-Gon Jinn.

[@akumaking1]

Count Dooku is another example of being a slimy politician, just like Palpatine, or all career politicians in Congress: Hiding the rot beneath many layers.

[@kellygreenii]

@@akumaking1 That’s not the lesson of Dooku. The lesson of Dooku is in Nietzsche’s infamous quote: “He who fights with monsters should first make sure that he does not become a monster himself. Stare into the abyss, and the abyss stares back into you.” In trying to destroy evil one can become evil one’s self. That the things you feel compelled to do can slowly destroy the goodness within you. Dooku was a good-but flawed-man who had his genuine desire to do good corrupted by the Dark Side…and a truly evil man (Palpatine…who was a psychopath long before he became a Sith). Dooku’s mistake was the same as Anakin’s. being manipulated into thinking he could use evil means to achieve good ends…. The ends don’t justify the means. The ends and the means are inseparable.

[@Otis151]

i dont think you needed exclude current cannon. Dooku was a fool at best and, more likely, a Sith through and through. He betrayed everything he held dearly and joined his arch enemy because... the Jedi were possibly mildly political? I think we like him because Christopher Lee was amazing as Dooku, not because Dooku was secretly a good dude (too your point).

[@travishillsthedarkangelbun504]

My interest in Count Dooku has risen from Tails of the Jedi to this year.

[@dreadrath]

After he went dark side, there was no turning back, especially after Sidious was done twisting his morals beyond all recognition. In a way its a shame his descent into darkness after taking over the C.I.S was so rapid. It would've been so much more interesting if at first he started doing things that were actually good, which would only increase his fame and reputation, then slowly over time his good deeds take darker and darker turns as he goes deeper and deeper into the dark side and whatnot; that way at the start even some people on the Republic's side wonder if they're on the right side, but once the power goes to Dooku's head and he starts abusing those under him opinions change. I sometimes wonder if had Dooku stayed mostly in the light and never joined Sidious but still started a movement similar to the C.I.S, could he have done some real good? Or would he still have gone mad with power, albeit much more slowly since he's not a Sith.

[@Gallery1743]

Damn Dooky wanted to make a more tolerant version of the imperium of man.

[@aarondemiri486]

Thoroughly enjoyable, and made me reconsider something's, well done.

[@based4560]

Him calling Anakin and obi wan clowns and then later getting beaten by them in the ROTS Novelization was so funny.

[@ellie_vargr]

Dooku began his descent to the dark side with good intentions, as all do. By the time the Clone Wars began, however, he was completely evil.

[@harvestblades]

This was really well done!

[@dhaburuk6494]

No matter one's age, always, there is room for improvement.

[@dhaburuk6494]

To elaborate, anyone can have the same flaws as Dooku and still end up a good person. I say Dooku knew better than to fall to his flaws and a politician's silver tongue. Ever vigilant, we must be, and humble enough to consider inconvenient possibilities. For those factors or moments we may be blind to, friends and family willing to say what must be said, packaged in love. Never let oneself become isolated, lest the devil set his eyes on your unguarded back.

[@grandadmiralzaarin4962]

Dooku is essentially Saruman in space. he started with noble intentions, but gradually fell to darkness through envy of Yoda being more powerful than him, pride in his own power and wisdom, as well as impatience and frustration with his allies and what he saw as the state of the galaxy. He came to admire the concept of authoritarianism even before falling to the Darkside, so that by the time Sidious approached him, he didn't even need convincing, he was already firmly on board with a totalitarian regime run by Sidious and himself. By the time we see him in AotC and RotS, he's not 'Dooku' anymore, he's 100% Tyranus.

[@FoxHoundUnit90]

I’m honestly surprised Dooku stayed with the Jedi for as long as he did.

[@Craftworld_patriot]

I mean, he is an antagonist in star wars and a sith lord. Of course he does evil stuff. But it doesn't mean he can't be sympathetic

[@CollinMcLean]

Yeah but most of his sympathetic points are kind of pretty self serving on further examination or just usually come off as insanely hypocritical. Dooku's character feels like a conversation with a Narcissist. He sided with the guy who got his apprentice killed Complained about the corruption of the Republic only to side with the corporate entities that fueled that corruption Killed his best friend and hid the body And led a liberation movement of outer rim worlds except a lot of them were essentially hostages owned by the banking clans or trade federation and he intended to use all of them as cannon fodder

[@Craftworld_patriot]

​@@CollinMcLeanI know that at the point of the clone wars he is pretty much evil. But he used to be noble and good man who has allowed himself to be manipulated. Just like with Vader and Grievous, this transformation makes him a sympathetic character (which doesn't mean "likable person", especially after the fall into the dark side)

[@cane6074]

He may have initially started out with the best of intentions, but his own character flaws combine with the corrupting influence of sith philosophy and palpatine's manipulations, as well The seduction of power led him down a dark path to becoming a monster. In some ways he's quite similar to Anakin Skywalker. Many of the observations he had about the galactic Republic were true, but the solutions towards fixing the problems we're much worse.

[@Marcara081]

Space Hitler isn't as unsympathetic as you think.

[@ElizabethKnight7575]

Now I understand why Palpatine had him killed by Anakin in the first place. He's right that Dooku is dangerous to he kept alive since he is also plotting to betray Sidious anyways. And his vision of the Empire is much worse than Palpatine's.

[@CollinMcLean]

Finally someone says it! Dooku was one of the worst people in the galaxy, he was just also someone with a rationalization for his actions which made him seem less evil than the other megalomaniacs and narcissists he was surrounded by.

[@generalj216]

Dookureich > dEmOcRaCy

[@Lightninghawk1144]

Dooku: Jedi Fallen is also a great source for Dooku lore (canon)

[@UnswimmingFishYT]

It seems likely that his contempt was actually the main fuel for his lightning. He had rage only at certain times and it would wear off, he had hatred for plenty of people, but the well of boiling contempt for most forms of life was likely what made him strong as a Sith. Sure he was naturally more of a capable Force user than most and that would be helpful, but dark side powers being bolstered by emotion so much and Dooku having a limited range of them, only one stands out as a logical fuel.

[@CloneScavengerVulpin8389]

The best or worst lies often have at least some of the truth.

[@ColinForBooks]

I think they did a good job of filling in a mistake. Dooku appeared out of nowhere in Ep 2. Was he actually stuck in bc JarJar as Sith Lord appeared so stupid? Whatever the case, Dooku was invented in the 11th hour for Ep 2.

[@PedroHenrique-wf2xt]

Now i need a video about The Whills

[@phorz85]

Psycho- not sociopath. A pretty clear case as such as well.

[@MatthewJamesKalasky]

He started off noble, if not a bit extreme. But this is what happens when you spend too much time in the Dark Side.

[@trapperjohn6089]

45:25 yikes he was a multiple murderer by the time he got to dukoo

[@roycehuepers4325]

14:15 I think its actually psychopath. Sociopaths are more prone to uncontrolled anger. Palpatine is actually the sociopath, though you only see it in his youth and by Return of the Jedi. Psychopaths are the ones who are more reserved. Conscience Psychopaths typically lack a conscience, while sociopaths may have a weak conscience and try to justify their actions. Impulsivity Sociopaths tend to act more impulsively, while psychopaths tend to be more strategic and think before acting. Anger Sociopaths are often quick to get angry when confronted about their behavior, while psychopaths generally do not explode under pressure. Relationships Sociopaths often have unstable personal lives and are more likely to get into relationships with like-minded people. Psychopaths generally avoid getting into relationships unless it serves their gains. Manipulation Psychopaths are known for their manipulative tendencies, often masking their true intentions behind a facade of normalcy. Social conventions Psychopaths are able to follow social conventions when it suits their needs.

[@ericvizcarra8766]

Awesome video😊

[@keyseeker1]

It always bugged me that he was both a Count and a Jedi. Should’ve just been a non-Jedi Tarkin type villain

[@vasylkasra]

This is why people really need to read the lore.

[@ABenAbides]

If I didn't know this was Star Wars I'd swear I was listening to the political history of a lot of real world countries and their politicians 😅

[@maksymilianziele28]

As far as TotJ portray Dooku as sympathetic (too much in my opinion, my explanation is all of this is from Dooku's point of view inside his head portraying himself as too likable to justify himself), I rather see him more as Thanos of MCU: For all his claims about saving the universe, in truth what Dooku really wants is to just be adulated as a hero and silence those who refused him in the past. After trying to follow their rules and failing (personally I can't blame polititians, no matter how corrupt, for not listening him, because any good idea from space wizard would be taken more as him using the Force to make people think he is right rather thanks to his good words; same with Jedi, you want to prove you are right about Coming Darkness? Find a prove it exists first or at least its first sign, do not talk without any prove, he just thought despite his respected reputation it was not enough for him and that hurt him on personal level, way too personal than it should; his CIS was only created because people were that pissed with the Republic to easily fall under the influence of Sith Lord Dooku with the help of greedy businessmen, army of obedient droids and finally maniacs like Grievous or Riff Tamson), he decided by his "own" rules because of wounded ego make people listen to him, completely overlooking (or disregarding) negative impacts his plan would cause, proving that all his big talk about being well-intentioned is nothing but a mask to hide a sociopath with personal disgust for those who do not share his vision and others, especially cyborgs and non-humans (what he had in the book and Dark Side does not create evil qualities, it only strenghtenes them, so Dooku's humanocentrism was there from the start), who once joined Dark Side it was all too easy for him to destroy those close to him, showing that his fall did not create evil Dooku, it only revealed his true nature, buried deep by Jedi unbringing. Even his death, I think it was shown more sympathetic because Anakin was forced to kill a helpless guy and Dooku was shocked that his Sith Master would betray him (like Dooku tried already many times with Ventress, Opress and Vos), not because Dooku was misunderstood in his evil. Moreover his blame of Jedi for Mandalorian massacre? He completely ignored the fact that a) they attacked first after offered a chance to surrender (Jango's fault for not trying to explain it, not Jedi) and b) he led that team, so his hands were even dirtier, but instead of trying to atone for it by helping Jango or surviving Jedi, first what he did was asking himself what Jedi had done, resulting in him blaming them for it. A different thing than of Anakin, who genuinely wanted to help people (which sadly was corrupted by combination of Palpatine, Jedi Jerks, his own flaws and tragedy, but still was real). Qui-Gon saw in his wise master only what Jedi made him, not a real man he was inside. Once Dooku discarded his Jedi identity, it was too easy for him to join Palpatine fully, see problem with the democratic system (the system was good, the problem was the people like evil senators were bad), and do one evil stuff after another: - disregarding any safety measure for Jinn except a warning (in my opinion he could do more than that but he didn't), moreover he wrongly assumed Jinn would also join him by working with a Sith, and he thought just because Dooku was his master, Jinn would listen, completely discarding the obvious fact that Palpatine... was just evil and there is just not grey area in working with the Sith, whose order was responsible for that corruption in the Republic in the first place, - disregarding any justice (or revenge) against Sith for Jinn's death, first with Palpatine, then with Maul over a decade later - a question to Sidious for questioning his loyality? No traitor should ever been trusted (even outside of Sith rules), something what seems never occured to Dooku, and no "I did everything for you" changes that once the mark of treachery is visible - a chance to listen to Yaddle, his own sister and have them both murdered, along with his best pal who understood him better than others, Sifo-Dyas, and then cover their deaths, playing on Jedi's trust towards him - disregarding any chance to show the Jedi, his "family", a final prove that they were wrong about Coming Darkness all this time (and having a nerve to talk about their blindness, despite working with the Sith at that time), all this simply out of "similarities" he and Sith regarding their philosophies shared.

[@hunterpowell2637]

Last time I came this early, my girlfriend got mad

[@yuhmadda]

skull emoji

[@wretchedegg2208]

Amazing video

[@djashovel]

Here's a very interesting what if and Something that would have happened Imagine if anakin wasn't able to find the person responsible for the Bombing of the jedi temple in time, and Ahsoka was executed I can only imagine what anakin would do. But also what he would feel But who do you think would have Contacted anakin Just to give his condolences dooku Would have Because in that moment, anakin is feeling the exact same thing dooku did Dooku, I could honestly see just giving his condolences, but lead into a conversation between dooku and anakin. He would realize They're not so different and especially what they lost and the failure of the order ( And let's not forget the 501 first and especially Rex )

[@joeschmoe9412]

so he's like a reverse buddha

[@battlechoads6515]

Looking like a KZbin exposé

[@ain3sh]

Why not draw from Dooku: Jedi Lost? Such a well written book that does exactly what you set out to do :/

[@nightfall3332]

Very good villain.

[@samlazar1053]

He was a grympy hatefull old jedi

[@KateHikes83TJD]

so, he was the good guy all along..

[@LegioXXI]

Dooku is almost as tragic as Anakin. They both got disillusioned by the galactic status quo (especially the Jedi) and ended up being manipulated by the Sith. People just can accept the tragedy of Anakin more easy since his tragedy is more "classic" and easier to grasp. His loss of his mother and hidden love for Padme are things many people can understand unlike the more abstract, often political losses of Dooku. Also while most of Dookus tragedy is "hidden" within the EU, Anakins tragedy basically is the core theme of the OG Star Wars movies. I don't think Dooku fans actually wanna sell this idea of a misunderstood Anti-Hero. They just internalised the double standard he faced compared to Anakin. Dooku had no classic tragic love story and no tearbending origin as a sl*ve boy - and i think many people who have comfortable lives within 1st world countries but still are depressed and feeling betrayed just can sympathise with that. Just because other people have it worse, your own disillusion and disappointment in life are not invalid. This is what Dooku stands for: That you can still end up broken and desperate and being manipulated even while having a privileged role in society.

[@wilerd]

wait, did you watch the video yet?

[@thalmoragent9344]

Honestly, even Space Hitler doesn't compare. At least Adolf did "some" good things for Germany, but Dooku honestly just helped to plunge the galaxy into chaos and... improved nothing. Sidious would've figured out how to construct the Empire (the good and the bad) with or without him. Maul and Dooku may have been used by Palpatine, but at least Maul didn't defend/play lackey to Sidious till the very end like Dooku.

[@FernandoMartinez-pv1id]

Finally a video showing how much a scumbag he actually was. Fanbaseses are such sheeple.

[@owenbondurant9788]

I like how the expanded universe fills in information about characters that suck in the movies. The movies teach us literally nothing about dookus character. He is probably the worst Star Wars movie character ever

[@rogerauger7766]

Space Hitler? I disagree, he had none of Hitlers warmth and charisma.

[@keule329z.4]

It's partly accurate to call Dooku a kind of "Space Hitler". He definitely had some parallels to Hitler: The racism clearly was one of them, just like his populism was as well. Another thing were his fiery speeches and the charisma he had in the eyes of many German and Austrian citizens back then... But the nobility complex more reminds about Paul von Hindenburg who tried to tame Hitler and the NSDAP by giving them some government positions - In the same way Dooku used the CIS as controlled opposition. Hindenburg's plan failed when he died... and Dooku's plan failed as he was killed before the leaders of the seperatist council were killed. Quite ironic...

[@Yang_1230]

Dooku is definitely a psychopath rather a Sociopath especially the fact he pretends to feel emotions and he can’t make true emotional connections which is all signs of psychopaths while sociopaths can Feel true emotions and have true connections with others

[@themutualfriend5286]

I still kinda like him 😅

[@jaykubisanidiot8657]

When Space Hitler is one of the more decent bad guys you know you're in a GrimDark

[@sagenod440]

Dooku is not an underrated antagonist in the SW fandom

[@vee-bee-a]

Tally ho, lads & lasses.

[@wilerd]

been saying this.

[@trevturp6891]

The same goes for Darth Vader.

[@davidholly9878]

kinda similar to the cory's datapad video

[@heavyarms55]

Before I actually watch this all the way - I have to nitpick just one detail: "Underrated"???? DOOKU??? Really?!

[@dustinburkhart8526]

Like 125 son

[@jeweledmagpie4493]

Yeah but Christopher Lee

[@KuYYu00]

Bro pls get a popfilter

[@Darth_RaZa]

His-story is a fable agreed upon. Things are not always as they seem, and the victors write the "history". Watch 'Europa: The Last Battle'. If you can find it.

[@crystalfire7x]

It is in Odysee.

[@lordkonzilla7890]

Dooku did nothing wrong

[@DarthVages]

👍

[@Maphisto86]

I see Count Dooku as emblematic of the worst case scenario for a person trying to live by the Jedi Code. The detachment from others, the pseudo-Stoic pursuit of justice, etc. Like how the Sith are an inversion of the Jedi, Count Dooku is an inversion of his master, Yoda and his student, Qui-Gon Jinn. Dooku became completely disillusioned with what the Jed represented well before he left the order. Christopher Lee, the actor who portrayed Count Dooku in Episode II and III, said that Dooku was not a sadistic monster. Instead, Dooku was more amoral, ruthlessly pragmatic in the pursuit of his goals, whatever that may be.

[@determination8359]

I feel like Dooku has, much like Maul, changed from unsympathetic, generic evil, to sympathetic. Dooku's portrayal as a space fascist human supremacist, clearly inspired as a prelude to the Empire (the creation of which was based on Nazi Germany) and Confederate General Robert E. Lee would naturally be different from how he is now portrayed sort of as a similar character from a previous generation to Anakin (the talented one everyone expected greatness from). Now, he's sort of like Nagato from Naruto, with the eponymous character being analogous to Anakin.

[@keule329z.4]

As a German who did have history as one of the subjects at my graduation exam, I can see the parallels between the events of the prequels that led to the rise of the empire and the rise of the Nazis. There are differences, of course, but the basics are quite on point.

[@zexalbrony4799]

I still feel Dooku is somewhat sympathetic, much like Anakin and many others who fell to the Dark Side over the many years in the franchise like Darth Revan, he had some good intetions, but like all Force Users who think they can use the Dark Side for good it ended very badly for him and what good he might have had was swalloed up by his new identity of Darth Tyrannus. Also, I feel that whole Human-Centric part of his character kind of comes out of left field, up until that point he never expressed these kinds of views and some his previous actions like how he seemed to like and favor several of hin non-Human Dark Acolytes like Ventress and Sora Balq seems to go against these views. He's still got a whole those with the Force are superior to others attiude, but he doesn't think Humans are the only ones who can use the Force, so I don't think he actually is Human-Centric, but he is very much got a whole superior attitude thinking he and Force-Users should be above everyone else and run the Galaxy the right way. And to be fair to Dooku, he was right about several of the failures of the Republic, and I say that as someone who is 100% loyal to the Galactic Republic, like how too many people have a say in how things are done. Now Democracy is great, it offers so many benefits, but it also comes with a large number of problems, lets us the Naboo Crisis as an example seeing as how you mentioned that was what pushed Dooku to the Dark Side fully. Now Dooku was right about the Senate not doing the only thing they should have done, as there is only one right answer to the Naboo Crisis, Naboo has been invaded and the only right thing to do is go and help the planet there shouldn't be any debate on that, but as we saw in TPM there is a lot of debate and grid lock even through anyone with even half brain should know the only course of action is to send help to Naboo imediatlty. However, here is something Dooku never realized, as he became a Sith soon after this and as Sith he deals in absoluties because your either on his side or against him, and that is that things are often more complex and not alwas so black and white. Now some of the people in the Senate debating not to go help Naboo are just jerks abusing their power, the obviouse ones being the delgation from the Trade Federation led by Lott Dodd, since they don't want Naboo to get help because they want to extort Naboo and the Trade Federation has many greedy allies in the Senate that they are paying off to vote with them against helping Naboo. Now these groups are just greedy evil jerks who don't deserve to have votes in the Senate for their actions. However, even without them, there would still be others who vote against helping Naboo leding to debate, and these other groups would actually have legimate reasons to not help, as we have to remember the Republic is steached thin at this point in the franchise, it has limited reasources, just 12 years ago we had the Stark Hyperspace War which put this on full display, as there were far to many pirates raidng the Outer Rim and the Republic didn't have enough resources to stop them all, the Jedi and Judical Forces tried their best, but there were just not enough of them to protect the whole galaxy and stop all the pirates, the Republic has limited resources, and if the Senate was to send help to Naboo it could mean other planets or systems become vulnarble. So some Senators might vote against helping Naboo not because their evil, greedy jerks who want Naboo to suffer, but because they have legimate concerns that by sending help to Naboo it could lead to their own planets and people being in danger, and they have a duty to protect their homes and people, its why they were elcted by their people in the first place. This is why despite its flaws Democray is important and needed, while helping Naboo is the only right answer here, they must decide the best way to help Naboo to make sure helping Naboo doesn't cause others to suffer, excpet the Trade Federation there jerks who can suffer in this situation.

[@matthewkearney2993]

I dunno, sounds like Republic propaganda to me.