Why Shooting Camels is Vital for Australian Outback

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In this video, Antony and I discuss the crucial role of firearms in rangelands and pastoral management, as well as the impact of feral animals on the landscape and the threats they pose to biodiversity and sustainable agriculture. We highlight the need for accurate data collection and discuss ways to improve accuracy, particularly in relation to total grazing pressure. The video features clips of feral animals, including horses, camels, and wild dogs, being controlled to mitigate their impact. We also delve into the challenges of operating within the national code of practice without access to appropriate firearms. Don't miss this informative discussion on the importance of managing feral animals for the benefit of our land and agriculture!
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[@paulreid2223]

You've nailed the reasons for feral animal control/management. Having come from the land myself, there's nothing in your conversation that can be legitimately challenged or discredited. Glib attacks by the bleeding hearts doesn't have any relevance in the real world.

[@jerrylansbury9558]

Eliminate.........not manage ! Shoot them anytime any place........dead !

[@بنقريش-ث7ص]

amazing way kzbin.info/www/bejne/sHK4cpZ_gc6Cj6c

[@Ray-ru3pc]

just because you type that doesn’t make it fact. And you’ve already shown bias in your statement so your objectivity is in question.

[@paulreid2223]

@Ray-ru3pc As an armchair expert, you demonstrate a dis- accosiation with reality. Until your "experience" transcends from cerebral to real life, you're a flyweight weighing in on a heavyweight fight .

[@perigrine46]

Very well done on how you portray land management on the pastoral lands. I was the bloke who wrote the project which the Federal Govt. adopted as the base model for all land and sea management across 11 million square klm's of northern Australia back in 1999/2000. You are exactly on the right path to successful management, if you can't quantify it, you will never be able to succeed at controlling or managing anything. I loved your attitude towards protecting the native wildlife, at all costs, for the future generations to learn about and enjoy. We live in a totally unique and fragile country and it needs dedicated people who love and respect this environment to maintain it into the future. Well done.

[@teamwenham584]

Brilliant shooting. Very accurate, humane and professional.

[@jameslyon1940]

No needing to be humane to pests

[@roryhennessey1983]

I'd say start make your own tannerite. It's easy enough

[@flyingoneranch]

Not very humain

[@teamwenham584]

Rubbish, for real world feral animal control, this is about as good as it gets. You have zero idea what you are talking about.@@flyingoneranch

[@alquinn3562]

The control and placement of the shots is expert level. well done!

[@bolgerlake]

Its ridiculous you can not have a semi auto

[@flonga1]

For real

[@grinslayer1232]

No, no its not, and don't say i don't know what I'm on about i live in the same conditions as this guy

[@bolgerlake]

@@grinslayer1232 okay well you enjoy

[@theeasternfront6436]

@@grinslayer1232You are living on emotion if you can not see the use of a semi auto but can of a pump action. You have let the Karens get under your skin and let them do the thinking for you.

[@djsgravely]

@@grinslayer1232. Because why, specifically?

[@ws1435]

Good presentation and good work. In the US wild hogs are destroying and displacing native and game animals. They are hard to control but it must be done. Thanks for the video.

[@flyingled3176]

And they are moving north, now in Southern New Jersey

[@johnx9318]

FYI - we hear that you have about 6-8 million wild hogs in the US. In Aus, we have about 24 million.

[@ws1435]

@@johnx9318 you have your work cut out for you.

[@GucciPasta]

⁠@@johnx9318that’s insane i can’t believe i’m just now hearing of this, unreal i never expected i’d hear australia of all places would have feral camels. i never though camels would really pose a threat like that but after this video i understand. sorry your gun laws are so restrict , to be honest, i’ve seen the feral hogs hunted in the US with a literal mini-gun, like the rotary insanely fast rpm death machine from hell itself. so sorry that your government is so blind to this issue, we’re sinking in the same boat over the pond, just slower and our captain has dementia

[@johnx9318]

@@GucciPasta Camels are one thing, but have you seen the size of the feral Asian water buffalo? Fkn huge! They run to 1000 kg - 2200lbs! Not so many of them though, 'only' about half a million! Where I go, we get to put pigs, dogs, cats, rabbits, hares and foxes to sleep - all on one property! There may even be a few dingo's too. (They are very unwelcome on livestock farms!) A week on the ground there is quite the safari!

[@TurnsWrenches]

This reminds me a bit of our feral hog problem here in Texas. Interesting to see how this situation translates across the world

[@rickjason215]

They have feral hogs in Australia.

[@TurnsWrenches]

@@rickjason215 I know I just mean comparing the helo hunting videos

[@texasbagman]

Amazing video. Very educational and informative. Thank you for presenting this issue in a respectful and professional manner. I wish more people understood the issues with feral animals.

[@keithg5137]

Great documentary guys. Introduced pests are by far the biggest problem to the Australian environment. Far bigger than worrying about green house gases.

[@johnmead8437]

Different and additional. Not worse.

[@grants2815]

Followed closely by our politicians 😂

[@brucepooley3623]

You guys have enough to deal with without weekend-experts putting in their spokes. A ten-day study proves nothing. Get them out there for three months or so and see the difference. Jack, you and others like you a doing a great job of keeping people fed.

[@onthegold1]

Excellent, good job, I have been a Farmer most of my life and had to do the same thing, well done Jack

[@whatyourlifestyle998]

I just want to add Jack . Good job on talking about who farmers are the ones who are caring for the land . Whether it lease of free hold land ownership,it always the farmer cost of everything to care for Australia.

[@TheBikeWizardAus]

Great video and very educational on the feral animal problem. Absolutely misunderstood and a significant lack of knowledge in the general public in Australia.

[@Alfa_Chef]

Spot on mate. I used to live in Australia and I agree with everything. You have to love the land ❤

[@stephenembleton8135]

WOW! how informative was that! I know about the ferral dog, cat and hog problem, but I never knew how massive the camel and horse invasion is. Big Steve, East Yorkshire, UK.

[@jack_out_the_back]

Cheers Steve, our mission is to inform 👍

[@californiadreamin8423]

Well Big Steve , I hadn’t realised that wild camels were such a big problem in East Yorkshire. I hope you don’t advocate a red coat and wild dogs to pursue your sport.

[@billweaver9982]

​@jack_out_the_back how do you have a firearm in australia?

[@user-McGiver]

@@billweaver9982 Pest control is a solid reason to get a license...

[@daRangie]

I'm amazed that the camels seem to have no sense of self preservation when their mates were dropping around them. Didn't realise there were so many camels out there. Thanks for another enlightening video.

[@duncanm6589]

Hi Jack and Ant, Great insight to the challenges of feral animals and the professional way you deal with it and manage it as part of your business. Good to hear the data driven approach. Great footage of the countryside.

[@williamsmith5514]

Jack you are a very intelligent man , God must be with you always with you mate . City dwellers would not know were you are . Clark Mchie in Queens land ahs experienced knee jerk reaction policies because they need to do things that keep them in office . I pray I can come out and assist you in your endeavours to help your land holders utilise these camels as a eatable resource .

[@annettehewitson6426]

It a shame that the the market for camel meat and skins is not up there like cattle meat sheep meat etc etc.

[@FuNkYyBoY]

Thanks for sharing Jack. First time on this sort of topic and fully understand why you need to do what you MUST to do with pests (camel). The questions and answers were well suited to answer the questions I had in mind. Well done !

[@MsCarissa007]

Well put together edition Jack and Ant - thank you

[@joseph8852]

That shooting from the heli was elite Must have something to do with the tactical electrical tape fore grip

[@glenclifton4563]

This video should be shown in every school before you can graduate. Well presented!!

[@patrickcarmody5853]

A great conversation about feral animals on the station.

[@SollysOnTheRoad]

great vid mate very well covered the issues , just a shame the government wouldn't support an industry to use the byproduct meat for human and animal consumption , win/win situation 👍

[@williamhall9688]

what a great job you are doing at PRENTI ,there is just not enough shooters around to do the job that you would like done

[@SirBigzalot]

Was looking at moving back to WA but with their ridiculous proposed gun laws I don’t think I will now.

[@stevenzeinert5664]

Great story. I had no idea of those numbers.. wow. Keep up the good work protecting this great country. 👍👍👍🇦🇺😎

[@jumanji5239]

Excellent shooting with very basic kit. In the USA there $10k worth of equipment invested.

[@joelspringman523]

Baloney.

[@farmerdave9312]

I really hope this stretches out for city ppl to see how vital firearms are for feral control, lot's of our native animals are near extinct from the British and our government should do more like paying land owners for their service, alot of money for fuel,time,ammo that could send a farmer broke

[@porcine83]

Logic > Emotions

[@justinmills8084]

Keep up the great work. I know its a tough decision but it has to happen to save the lands natural stuff. Tough job 💪

[@johnmead8437]

Quantifying herbivorous pests is easier than some others, plants don't migrate and get wary. Some fenced sites excluding the feral pests would provide some visual information, paired within stock only country so the effects of livestock can also be demonstrated.

[@timbrown8581]

Great vid with some great shots. I disagree with one statement, I believe all lands owners are responsible for feral animal control, including indigenous land holders. After all, it's in their interest too, to control introduced species. It's simlly not good enough to palm responsibility off to others and not executed your responsibility. If you fail in your responsibility you should be prosecuted, no exceptions! It's in everyone's interests!

[@damobushy]

A lot of sense jack, neighbors also need to understand this point of view.

[@Matt-0079]

Great video jack , very informative and explanation of why kills like this need to happen. Well done. Loving your channel, I’d love to work on a station one day

[@ricknmoe100]

Great video. Very informative and professional. Thank you. 😎🤙

[@DamiantenBohmer]

What a great and informative video, very well narrated and some excellent examples of ethical kills. Thank you 👍🏻

[@jerrylansbury9558]

Its not about ethics .......its about removing the feral animals...anyway possible ! eliminate.......not manage !

[@aaronsanborn4291]

You Aussies need to take your government back from the idiot politicians

[@jancovanderwesthuizen8070]

In the driest areas of South Africa, carrying capacity goes down to about 1 LSU / 40 hectares. I would assume it’s similar where you are?

[@dragonwarrior103]

Never knew camels where such a problem down under. Great work! Curious what you do with all the carcasses though.

[@ntdanny]

Good video, I've done a lot of this in the NT and it's good to see it explained well.

[@richardrogers7339]

As an ex farmer you eco my thoughts on all aspects of management that your practicing.

[@richardrogers7339]

It would be lovely to see the national parks over here on the east be more practical with their management

[@kagnewmp12]

Echo

[@lizchatfield692]

Very good explanation of the the us of the land . Its not easy doing what you what you have to do i can see it in your face stay safe . Bernie from NZ

[@STRIKINGLIGHTING1]

Well done Jack. Informative and well presented. Personally I like all aspects of your Station life.

[@GatorMike79]

Great video! I can understand more now why this is done. I'm not familiar with feral camels/horses but I am with what feral/stray cats do to the ecosystem so I can only imagine what camels take from livestock and native wildlife.

[@wilson2455]

can't believe that farmers who hold a valid firearms license still need to jump through so many govt. hoops every time they need a single bolt-action rifle !

[@grahamriley2892]

Anthony - we have a similar problem with Feral Australians here in the Uk, however, unfortunately we are not allowed to shoot them - any tips on how to control them 😂

[@johnsheehan4184]

😂😂😂😂

[@ianbell735]

Hey grahamriley we have feral pommy back packers as well😁

[@grahamriley2892]

@@ianbell735 you just shoot them though

[@ianbell735]

Grahamriley nah mate no need shooting them they all try to drown themselves at Bondi beach😁

[@pfa2000]

I find you need to control their food sources. By removing access to vegemite, lamingtons, and pavlova, I believe we've got a fighting chance of controlling the numbers.

[@jackbuendgen389]

Wow I don't know what cartridge you're using or where the shot placement is but it seems like camels go down easy

[@claudiodippolito5686]

Outstanding It’s a shame we can’t harvest this meat for human consumption for eight export or domestic purposes

[@shermrock345]

They do sometimes. They make camel sausage and dog food and probably a few other things. Itscall on this channel

[@andydavies5730]

Is there any way to make use of the camels on the property so they became an asset?

[@jack_out_the_back]

We have been advocating for a long time for it, but there's is no economic way to do so at this stage.

[@TheAnnoyingBoss]

The native wildlife shall dine upon theor corpses its austrailia the rock might even have 8 legs bro its like wjere i live you see a hole yoh dont stick yojr fingers in that shit unless you want to die early

[@tosh9120]

Another great video. Very well explained. Keep up the good work.

[@jorgenapoles6517]

What does he do with the dead camels

[@christopherwalsh4228]

Great video. But can you tell me if there's any post kill use of the ferals, outside of pigs and cattle. I know that Australia is the largest producer of goat meat because of new ideas. Is that being utilities else where?

[@ellobo1326]

Whatever rifle that was in the helicopter, was smashing those camels. Dropped in tracks even from behind. Wow.

[@alasdairhamilton1574]

Excellent explanation of the situation. What are the protocols for the carcasses? 👍🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

[@jhorton1600]

I'm sure the dingoes and wild dogs help clean up.

[@dilligaf2818]

great work Jack !!

[@haydenbretton2990]

How long will it take for a large culled animal to decompose in the outback?

[@spittyrides]

I'd love to see what flogs like Tash Peterson have to say when numbers are left unchecked and continue to grow, and then spread into urban areas. "Ethical" Veganism is a sick side-effect of affluence. Keep up the good work that you're doing.

[@ryandavey3374]

Hay Jack great doco explains things in a very clear way. Is there any programs for the average shooters to get out and lend a hand? Or what is more important funding/ personnel / or just getting the knowledge of the problem publicised? As a novice hunter i for one would find the chance to lend a hand a great opportunity. As i am based in Tasmania opportunity is a little light on.

[@johnmead8437]

Doing something about the deer problem in Tasmania would be a start. Like stopping hunters etc protecting pests for thier own gratification.

[@ryandavey3374]

@John Mead yep I agree I can't understand why farmers complain about the deer problem and then charge $800 just to get a spot on there ground and you have to know someone to get on. Surly having your own public liability insurance would be enough

[@johnmead8437]

@@ryandavey3374 Here in NZ hunters don't require insurance, or a hunting licence. They do require a firearms licence and permission to hunt from the owner/occupier. Many don't permit night hunting (hunters have difficulty identifying livestock & people, someone got fatally spotlighted in a roadside picnic area, and stock are regularly shot. Anyone claiming thermal etc is better shouldn't have a gun license, it's not). So you can come here with a gun licence, get a free permit from the Conservation department, and hunt to your hearts delight, the only fees being for hut use etc. Note this isn't usually providing any animal control in many areas/species, you will probably shoot an insignificant amount and scare more. Like any other rec hunter, or oz pig hunters etc. But unless the site is scheduled for structured pest control that's of little consequence, & in the easier areas the population can be kept down to some extent..

[@ryandavey3374]

@John Mead going for a hunt in NZ is a bucket list item for sure 👌

[@jack_out_the_back]

Hi Ryan, Awareness is what we are aiming for here, to get the information out there. So people in the cities begin to understand the challenges we face, and how decisions there impact us, and the work we do. Look into Sporting Shooters Association of Australia. They have a farmer assist program. And there are conservation groups that do volunteer work with a high level of professionalism and enthusiasm. Cheers!

[@mrjoker2444]

The surely practiced this conversation

[@AaronWood-vv8et]

Is there any way to get into this iv been watching your channel for a while and I am interested in trying to help out

[@ethimself5064]

The shooter is a great shot - what rifle and specific ammo is he using? Thanks - from what I see the camels are going down with 1 shot👍- 👍

[@meatavoreNana]

Horses too. Great shot

[@dinri5544]

What happens to the dispatched animals? Are they left to decompose or are they harvested in some manor?

[@dlmsarge8329]

I'm guessing the remoteness of this land and the large areas covered by these culls would make recovery of dead animals impractical. There may also be an issues with feral animals carrying diseases that prevent them from being used as food of any type.

[@meatavoreNana]

​@DL M (Sarge) thanks, that was my question too

[@samwest9444]

Good video mate. I remember you from stint at Greenline

[@derekcox6531]

Four million camels!?!?😳 holy shitzky!

[@timbow50]

I’ve been on several what we call “ cull” hunts? It’s not what is normally a true hunt but eliminating of too many deer and or feral pigs. These are usually on very large Texas ranches that weren’t managed for whatever reason and generally a new land owner with state biologists involved. Depending on the acres, usually several thousands, a number is selected for how many deer should be taken. Note that all the deer are processed immediately by law. Food banks give this meat to those that need help with food. The feral pigs are not governed by law so every one that can be taken is very acceptable. The meat is usually processed too but not required. Literally, it is possible on some occasions to take hundreds of deer depending on ranch acreages. These are usually 3 to 4 day events with many shooters involved.

[@slurpe8357]

Here in Texas, US we have thousands of wild hogs that tear up the land so we hunt them like you do, but from what I’ve seen from your videos camels aren’t very hard to hunt

[@charliecurfman8859]

Now I see why you love that old rifle. You are so spot on with that banger.

[@petelumley1578]

Are the canals used for meat, because there is a lot of food there.

[@jackjohnson6339]

It's probably needed but please don't say it's humane. I've seen your videos where the shots are hitting legs, rear ends, humps etc. Those shots from the copter as they're running away are not kill shots. As I said, brutal AF! But still I watch

[@garlandgarrett6332]

What type of weapons and calibers are appropriate for camel management? What is allowed/required by legislation?

[@shaunbischoff6510]

So when do we start on crocks

[@jamesyarbrough4777]

in america we call them invasive species. we have a huge problem with wild hogs.

[@TyphaDog]

The fact that there is no system by which you can have access to more effective firearms, like higher capacity semi-automatic rifles, is hard for me to wrap my head around. The difference for aerially gunning could be dozens of animals. At the very least you would think these could be good military training opportunities.

[@joewoodchuck3824]

I had no idea camels were found outside of the Middle East.

[@Meiwhei1]

They were brought to Australia in the 1800s.

[@rchrdjms62]

It was a long video so I easily could have missed it, but what to do they do with the dead camel carcasses?

[@robwozencroft8684]

Can the meat be exported?

[@craigscoullar564]

Jack's a smart cookie great Australian

[@robinpedler1239]

Watched when you did the camel backstraps great resource

[@frankthetank8947]

What is done with the horses, cammels, and donkeys that are shot?

[@samuelstevens1129]

Very informative video

[@sautoter411]

Absolutely fantastic, sensible truthful discussion!!

[@saiga12commander]

excellent informative video...

[@arriecohen2672]

Very informative

[@xWhiteRice]

I know this isn’t remotely the point of the video but I dont think people appreciate how difficult it is to hit a humane vitals shot on a moving target from a moving vehicle. and how impressive it is to do so consistently and repeatedly

[@otpays8552]

Right wtf

[@wilson2455]

and he's using a bolt-action rifle. Imagine the increased efficiency (money, time, etc) a semi-auto rifle would bring to feral animal control ?

[@jeffryrichardson9105]

Great information! Thank you for all your help!👍🏽😀❤️🇺🇸

[@sortaspicey9278]

8:45 that camel heard a bullet fly over his head and was just like eh

[@loismiller2830]

Man, that's so many camals. I always think of rabbits and cats going rogue in Australia, but never knew about the camals. Good luck with keeping the numbers down. What a burden on the ecosystem.

[@michaelsullivan2631]

You have the Camel and Horse ,Donkey ,Cat problem but here in the Southern U. S. we have a major HOG problem destroying crops and raiding your backyard animals chickens , ducks , gardens and lawns. Your large animals only produce one at a time but a hog may have up to 10 or 12 piglets at a time most of the time twice a year and a pig is able to reproduce at about 6-8 months of age , so figure that number. We trap , shoot , to try and do our best to control them but their is no getting ahead , maybe just stay even . Hope you get a handle on your problem too.

[@gremlinfishing4286]

Wild pigs are a huge problem in Australia, just not out in the semi desert areas ,last estimate was somewhere around 23 million .

[@mannyrivera3625]

Man I miss Steve Irwin.

[@bruceyeoward6544]

Very scientific approach, start by measuring then planning a outcome. Water controls everything in the outback, turn the water off ie windmills the kangaroo numbers drop sharply, I have seen this a ex Stations now conservation reserves, as Jack said even vacant land has to be managed, don't agree with Jack about who is responsible for the land, if you are the owner you are responsible for the management, including ferals, weeds etc at your cost. Don't push $ cost onto the rate payers, state govt, federal govt.

[@UpcomingJedi]

What is done with all the stiffs? Are they left for predators? Or are they used to feed homeless people? Whats the cost of the copter rental?

[@lonnyford1186]

How do they taste ? Can they be an eatble resource?

[@theriverboys5603]

By the looks of things maybe the Australian government should ease up on the gun laws and be a little harder on electricians in that country.

[@feşTR-81]

06:10 Oki, where did you come from to Australia? You mustn't be over there!

[@chasl2216]

Great Great video

[@jaredwhite489]

Had no idea there were camels there

[@stanwiggins3423]

Great video and great shooting out of the helicopter and truck. One question that comes to mind is what is done with the carass of the dead animal when killed near the water points or near any of the pen areas? Are any of the camels processed for the meat by NGOs to support feeding indegenous peoples or for any other use?

[@jack_out_the_back]

The carcases near water points are dragged away and burnt. There aren't any NGO's that would do that, (here in Australia they aren't that pragmatic). We are working with a private company to remove as many camels as pet meat.

[@meatavoreNana]

​@Jack Out The Back thanks mate, was wondering about that

[@jasonhowe1697]

it depends on where you a located will depend on what is feral or not the biggest feral species we have is camel, water buffalo, horses pending species and type, rabbits and foxes from there on anything and everything left to run wild and lack of management truth be known we don't really knowwhat feral population isof any targeted species listed last i checked at a hypothetical level per 1000 head of sows if they are bred 4 times 6-10 piglets each year you would would be 60,000-100,000 pigs born in the wild, can't really comment on the breeding of horse and donkey populations , dogs typically 5-10 pups if there is enough food and water access a bitch can sire upwards 40 pups a year

[@Jackaloperancherone]

The upspeak is in dire need of management

[@markoeberhardt3132]

What’s the point of aim you’re targeting on them?

[@mrpilkington9710]

Q. why we do we have guns on the property? A. Because all free men should be armed.