Why siphoning gas is hard to impossible on modern cars

Why siphoning gas is hard to impossible on modern cars

[@briansmobile1]

The ball interrupts the flow of fuel from the tank out the filler when the car is upside down. It's inline so a hose can't get around it very well unless the hose or line is stiff and small diameter- like nylon tubing for swamp coolers.

[@dalegribble60]

and I just spent an hour trying to get the hose down there....thanks, thanks alot.

[@jasonstacotrail4823]

Yeah I tried to siphon a full tank of gas before I traded in my truck. I felt like a dumbass 🤣🤣

[@trevorgreen9601]

@@jasonstacotrail4823 ya I gotta hose stuck in there and it snapped off now my moms on her way home going to beat me

[@jasonstacotrail4823]

@@trevorgreen9601 😬🤣🤣🤣

[@dwightwiley490]

Me too😂😂

[@rapskallion]

Take out the ball to siphon the tank? If you're at the point where you can get to the ball, the tank is open and ready to be siphoned.

[@deedoubs]

+rapskallion Presumably this is if you want to make your own cars siphon-able for whatever reason...

[@Paid2Win]

Ready to be poured

[@frankgrimes6771]

@@deedoubs i think if your ever in a roll over though gas may pour out making your accident extra deadly

[@littlegoobie]

actually, that ball's main purpose is to stop gas from dumping out if you roll the car, that's why it's a hollow floaty ball. It's a one way check valve. Stopping syphon tubes would be easier and cheaper to stop with a metal screen.

[@jfinan71]

Thanks man, I knew there was a check valve/anti-siphon in there, but it's cool to see what it looked like. I checked out some of your other videos too...you are a Guru indeed! Thanks!

[@nanettefabros6237]

jfinan71 Check Valve! Needed that, thanks! How helful that roadside assist. fricked up my car so easy, 5 mins flat. No gas will go IN, spews OUT on me! So glad they "helped me out." s.o.b.s

[@TheTexasCoder]

Good post man, thanks for taking the time to show that! I know you must have been tired and ready to get the job over with, but thank you for remembering us gear heads out here that appreciate these little findings and information! Keep up the good work!

[@briansmobile1]

@coyote7272 The ball is the barier. The metal flap isn't anti-theft, it just prevents unwanted tank/environment exchange. Not pulling the line out easily is just a coincidental hassle to siphoning.

[@briansmobile1]

@deanbhill If the car is upside down the ball will float in the gas toward the three fingers and gas will free flow in the same way it lets gas by when filling the tank. The gas cap actually does the job when a car is upside down. I've rolled a couple one was upside down for half hour in the mountains (Jeep Cherokee) and the particular car had no ball in it and it still held it's fuel. Oil.. not so much it went all over in the air filter from the PCV hose.

[@fortcastlevgn2368]

WOW THX FOR RECLArifying this,, other message made me confused,, someone answered him but wasnt as detailed as this one thx,,, I REALLY WANTED TO know how the ball lets the gas pass,, guess its plastic full of air and rolling easy with gas?,, with some guy and his car exception having issues lol i know nothing about those types of cars and couldnt careless usually,, i avoid them 100% for climate know much more on electric cars,, and i hate cars,, but the walking dead piss me off not knowing how they syphon it,, and then learned about a ball,, a question leading to an other one and yours to an other one,,, fkin love youtube ignore me... 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[@roswalt1]

That may explain why some gas nozzles don't work well when filling up my Hyundai Santa Fe unless I hold it at a a strange angle. I guess the gas splashes on the ball and trips the automatic cut off before the tank is full.

[@imdeplorable2241]

I saw that ball and went, "BINGO!"That's why gas bubbles out when I'm pouring it in from a gas can. It's restricting the flow and gas is filling the neck.

[@chefgreenwood450]

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[@HealthSupercharger]

i saw video where a 1/4" hose can get thru that ball if you first support it with a 1/2 inch hose. The quarter inch hose has to have a pointed end.

[@EverBarbero]

how does the double tube gizmo work?

[@Goodlifefarmer]

Could you link video pls.

[@supersexyfatguy]

​@@EverBarbero feed the larger hose down the neck until it hits the ball, feed the narrow hose through the larger hose to support it and keep it from bending while forcing the narrow (and pointed) hose through the small gap around the ball.

[@briansmobile1]

I know most 1990's and newer have it. I do think it's mandated. The purpose is to prevent spilling in the even of a roll over accident.

[@turbodog99]

I'm sure someone burned alive for that little regulation to be enacted. Sucks to be them...

[@briansmobile1]

@spelunkerd That same Cherokee I rolled I winched back over and drove 30 miles home with no windshield. The thing to do is give it at least as much time upright as it had upside down- check the oil level and unplug the ignition coil. If it doesn't rotate but makes a nasty starter grind noise you'll have to pull the plugs. If it rotates smoothly you can run it.

[@briansmobile1]

@squidgysailor It's designed to prevent spill out if the car rolls over and prevent syphoning. As far as I know the gas station cut out is all in the pump end.

[@briansmobile1]

@watcbd It does help trigger the fuel gun to shut off before splashing out too.

[@briansmobile1]

This is true, another common cause it the curve of the filler neck hose can cause back splash too.

[@fieldauditservices6870]

Always thought it was a screen! Learn something new everyday! Who says an old dog can't learn new tricks?!

[@nanettefabros6237]

And I see this roadside service busted that air flap - none, just open. Done with them, but they will pay for damaging my car. I feel confident to have this day in court. Ohh ah quinky dink ma'am. Your car manufacturer BAD REP! yyyyeah. snakes

[@Barnekkid]

I'll be replacing the fuel pump on my Blazer shortly. I'm glad I saw this video.

[@briansmobile1]

You mean prevent gas spill when the car rolls?

[@briansmobile1]

@ericebbaker It MAY be possible, but it would take FOREVER. Even with a big hose the flow rate is pretty slow on a siphon.

[@nelljamina419]

I got a hose right down there (this is a 92 Rover 214) I sucked and got a mouthfull of fumes, persevered and got a mouthful of liquid - that was the most horiffic experience of my life, I will NOT do that again. Car is getting scrapped with half a tank full tomorrow. I hope I don't die in my sleep :(

[@hosseinvs2224]

Nice closeup explanation. Thanks. Though it may be different in other makes and models...

[@TSPhotoAtlanta]

Yep, I'm wondering what the case is in my e90...I've been siphoning as needed sin the early '70s. As you cant tell, haven't needed to do so since they rounded this corner off...jeez, take her wreck like a man, s little fuel fire never hurt anybody!!

[@PorkChop2D]

you can still siphon gas but it requires a smaller hose but the hose i used on my truck took about half hour per gallon to siphon

[@LL-ue3ek]

thank you so much for letting me know the ball that's in the way. I was wondering why I couldn't insert the tube all the way down to the gas.

[@symlexbrn5396]

I came here coz we're currently having a fuel problem here in the UK and I need to drain into a jerry can and fill up the tank again for my 285 mile trip to London, I don't want to be stuck there

[@AlwaysHopeful87]

Thanks for the video. I have to drain my 99 Alero to work on the fuel lines. Not sure if it has an anti siphon ball, but if it does, I'll know what to do.

[@OffGridInvestor]

I heard GMs often have mesh right where that ball is too.... Maybe even to hold the ball in but it definitely stops hoses.

[@ddistrbd1]

Thank you ,I just tried to transfer the gas from a 2002 hyndai accent and failed! now I know why.time to give back the fuel container I bought Yesterday lol.

[@briansmobile1]

@ericebbaker A drill to the side of the tank or pulling the hose off.

[@Dinoraptor101]

Thank you so much now I know the mystery of my car and why can't I siphon it looks like I'll have to open it up and take the fuel out myself

[@JCNOAOU]

What years would you consider modern car?

[@GM572]

It's also hard because you can blow up in a firey inferno if you're doing it wrong. Had to strip a gas tank off a car once, stripped it, got it out to a clear area where no fumes could accumulate and only then I took the leftover gas into a canister. Just poured that shit out through a funnel. I found the flap on the filler tube, but it had no plastic ball.

[@johncastillo2194]

How could you blow up

[@mondavou9408]

Now that gas is over $6 per gallon, I was think about a locking gas cap. You just saved me $15 bucks.

[@reggin_spelt_backwards]

Introducing drill hose. The only hose that has a drill on the end! Great for hard to reach gas tanks!

[@thelog86]

I tried to siphon gas out of my car to put in generator during a power outage. Wish i had seen this b4 wasting 20 min trying to pump it. Eventually i could tell wasnt reaching the gas (dry hose)

[@briansmobile1]

@TheTexasCoder Thanks for the feedback- that helps.

[@FlukeTog]

Yea in the last hurricane I thought oh we’re fine I have an extra 30gal in the truck for the generator - yea nope. Stupid ball . It was fine but I like to know for when all hell breaks loose next time- what we have in reserve.

[@nelljamina419]

I swallowed some yeah. I tried to get rid of the taste by eating chocolate, sugary sweets, milkshake, ice-cream. It helped but then I kept burping and the taste came back! My mouth felt really bad, my skin burned where it had touched my lips and face and my ears rang, I felt really wobbly the the rest of the evening.

[@alastairwaters9114]

Must have be 99 super unleaded

[@danielbrowniel]

We need you, lock picking lawyer!

[@linuxforpunks]

lol this would be his colleague car jacking lawyer

[@jesseobrien5864]

They're stealing my fuel out of a 2013 prius nightly in Portland Oregon

[@moneymike6103]

So the moral of the story is don't put the wrong gas inside your vehicle or anything else that is not gasoline inside your vehicle. Because Siphoning, the gas will not be easy.😢😊

[@briansmobile1]

@GM572 Ya not all of them have it.

[@TheMcooper17]

i idscovered this a couple weeks ago, i pulled up at a gas station with pumps that reach both sides, i was a little too far over and forward, nozle couldnt press down the flap so had t move the car, if it didnt have said flap then i wouldnt need to

[@jorgeneo560]

i see some guys with a drill pump that could suck the fuel, i dont understand how that is posiblle if the tubing never touch the fuel tank, i dont think that the pump make a huge vacum that alows fuel to get out

[@30pvfd]

Thanks I’m having problems filling mine up dam thing preventing Mine from topping off

[@michaelhorsford403]

the balls there in case the car is flipped over so gas won't leak everywhere it's actually a good saftey feature

[@Kwikasfuk636]

Not true. If the car flips over there won't be enough fuel beneth the ball in the neck to enable it to float and seal. If the ball is inside the tank and not the neck, once flipped over the ball would want to float away from the seal. The fuel cap is the defence against fuel loss during rollover

[@TSPhotoAtlanta]

@@Kwikasfuk636 So why is the damn thing in there? I have a locking fuel tank door....

[@brucespurier7535]

@@Kwikasfuk636 Yup, you must be correct and all those design engineers must be wrong. Einstein.

[@briansmobile1]

@pberglin I've had customers who had their gas tank drilled from below! Crazy eigh?

[@danielgodfrey6581]

I always thought it was a guard like on the drain in the tub or sink

[@Nsixtyfourlink]

Graet so I have to drop the tank on a car I just filled up with gas, and the engine promptly blew up half a mile later.

[@briansmobile1]

@spelunkerd You bet. Any time.

[@ericebbaker]

Is there still a way for people to bypass that green ball???

[@briansmobile1]

@NissanDriver15 Thanks- I also sub to Davidsfarm- the guy rocks!

[@briansmobile1]

Super powers!!!

[@briansmobile1]

You're welcome!

[@silentwolf9923]

Not hard for the people in my town they just slice a fuel line and drain it into a pan

[@rcnelson]

I removed the ball (red) when I took the tank off my Dodge. It still won't accept a siphon tube. The angle must be too great or something.

[@nanettefabros6237]

And this post helps me too! Errr AAA!

[@beeftaco4588]

And now people are literally drilling holes in cas tanks to siphon the gas from NYC to Cali.

[@MobfiaEnt]

One spark 🔥 that bitch gon blow up?

[@pasqualeparente9776]

My son has a full tank of gas on his Montana and really want to siphon it out. How small a diameter hose can he put down the filler neck to siphon the gas? BTW the fuel pump is dead and the Montana will be scrapped.

[@Hand_me_a_handle]

Any hose as thick as his pecker will go thru with plenty of space

[@evybeshears4815]

What year would you say this started being a thing in vehicles?

[@Sammy-em3zi]

Can u not run it straight in the vent tube ?

[@bostonterrierfanatic9652]

My 2022 ranger just got siphoned empty last night. I think it was easy for them 😂

[@joewingard29]

My son wrecked his car and totaled it and I went to try to siphon out some gas and could not get a hose in there. This explains it. Sadly I just wasted $10 on a siphon pump

[@southerner66]

I have to trickle gas into my 2003 Volvo due to some issue with the rollover ball valve. I've taken it to several mechanics, and they say they'd have to drop the tank to fix it -- a $1k job.

[@MuzzaHukka]

There's a neighbour who pesters me then drives off when cops come. How can, during the night, prop his cap open, siphon the gas out, and then call the cops?

[@xxALEXIZBEASTxx]

lol just take the starter fuse out or if its locked than drill a hole in the oil pan his car wont die right away but when it does he will know not to fuck with you

[@ICEGTN]

Drill a hole in his gas tank and collect the fuel from underneath. To prevent it from catching on fire you need to buy a CO2 canister (a big one) and blow CO2 on the drill while drilling. Be aware that CO2 will prevent a fire by starving the area of oxygen, but it can also starve you of oxygen, so act quickly.

[@danielgodfrey6581]

Put sugar water in his tank

[@mindsprawl]

1 kg of sugar straight into his tank, he runs the car, and his engine turns into a block of caramel. After the engine cools down, the sugar sets in the engine, disabling the car permanently. He will know it was you, so get ready to fight.

[@nanettefabros6237]

MuzzaHukka Or just get arrested. Let them fall ... be mindful and not stoop to thug work. What if he sneaks up on you = forensics files show. Don't antagonize a hornet's nest, like a piñata. Made that up... Good luck, be safe!

[@nanettefabros6237]

Perfect and thank you so much Brian. A national roadside service damaged my car with an old gas can + long spout... I see what they did. No faulty Honda anything, charcoal filter rubbish. Screenshots my evidence for the judge. See - they filled it & killed it. Spews gas AT me, so trick = a lawnmower 2 gallon hand held red gas can + a proper funel & ease the gas in. Broke the gas gauge too somehow. Put 4 gallons in over 2 days, still on E. I wish Judge Judy could help me with this nonsense, but the local small claims will do. My star evidence 1 old 1980s style gas can & spout, tin man vs red plastic 2 gallon can short nozzle with red plastic funnel, tapers to NOT dip deep into my good car! Ludicrous they dared to make up such a goofy story, but they probably forgot women know about Safety Recalls ... NHTSA Bold nerve. And I have it printed as their pro analysis. I say Moose Lodge, em brotherhood. 😉 You helped a lady in big distress. Thank you!

[@TSPhotoAtlanta]

Kind of wish you had said that in english - not sure what that was, but too hard to understand. In court you have to make sense.

[@brucespurier7535]

@@TSPhotoAtlanta Me too. Some people skipped english class and can't construct a few sentences that have any meaning.

[@sdnlawrence5640]

Great, I just spent $4.99 at harbor freight for a siphon pump to pull gas from my mom's car that's been sitting for 3 years. Now what do I do?

[@TSPhotoAtlanta]

That gas is at the "varnish" stage. You would not want to put it in another car after sitting 3 years. It's good for 6 - 12months if you'd put in a gas stabilizer when you parked it.

[@briansmobile1]

Riiiiiiiiiiiight.

[@SerenaCavanaugh]

my car is 2017. the gas flap locks. I came back to my car and it had popped open. also looks like fuel had leaked into a stream right under it. I was freaking out sure someone had tried to siphon gas. My gage only dropped a bar but that might've been only my usage. Honestly wtf? I can't believe it could have popped open itself

[@TSPhotoAtlanta]

I did it, oh well...left it un-attended, WTF, right?

[@monkfoobar]

Well how about them apples

[@SonoranPunk]

it is nearly impossible to dislodge the ball without removing the gas tank then those pins he pointed out

[@ballwizz23]

Did you say that? And how exactly does it do that? And how does that make it hard to siphon?

[@DJ-du4tq]

If it's not your car, and the hose is stiff enough, couldn't it just push it past those plastic pins?

[@dougiequick1]

What I alwasy wanted to do is to install something where I could get gas out of my vehicle anytime I needed it wheter to help someone on the road or to fill my lawnmower etc....seems like where the ruel filter is one could install a tee and have a petcock on a tee line? What would be really nice is if there was also a momentary switch that bumped the fuel pump? Anyone here ever do that? Do tow trucks have such a feature? Motorhomes must have some was to get gas to run auxiliary genny?

[@briansmobile1]

I had something like this on my old F150 that I did mobile repair with. I pipe threaded a fitting/nipple down low on the side of the tank so I couldn't empty the tank and strand myself and also so I didn't suck up tank sediments.

[@mr.tactown.253]

Even better idea, pull the fuel pump fuse and relay, stick a metal wire or paper clip into the 2 terminals of the relay housing that actuates the switch, that way when you turn the key instead of 3 seconds of fuel being pumped, it's always going to be on, before you turn the key, pop the hood, find the fuel rail valve and unscrew the valve stem or whatever its called with the little tool that comes with tire repair kits for bicycles, once the little stem is removed with that tool, connect a hose to that valve on the fuel rail and hose in a gas can, turn the key and you have gas pumping into a can now, voila! Way late reply but maybe someone finds this helpful

[@mr.tactown.253]

Just don't let it run out completely and continue pumping with no gas in the tank, i heard that can kill the fuel pump

[@mr.tactown.253]

If you are scraping a car then i guess it wouldn't really matter and if its a full tank then you get to keep it instead of letting you go to the junkyard

[@briansmobile1]

LOL! I feel so bad for you ! : P That's NASTY!

[@briansmobile1]

@1997buddyboy You can't on new cars.

[@rudolphferdinand3634]

Putting a hose into the tank and hitting the green ball (floater), can you damage the floater ball where you can not tell how much fuel you still have in your tank? I have two vehicles that I'm unable to tell how gas I still have in them. Bad people in the neighborhood cutting cable line, taking things from some vehicles, and doing other things in the neighborhood.

[@TSPhotoAtlanta]

4 years later...look into your "fuel sending unit". It may be combined with other parts like fuel filter or pump. Also check the wiring and gauge. Modernd cars it could be a processor somewhere like an ECU or such, check the codes, run a diagnostic.

[@mr.tactown.253]

2 years later, its probably a sensor that's in the fuel tank, or right next to it which is underneath your car as most fuel tanks are..

[@watcbd]

Is that why the ball is in there or is there another reason?

[@HateCrewReaper]

Ffs how do I empty my gas tank lol the cars headed to the junk yard I want to keep that expensive fuel!!

[@briansmobile1]

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[@killer2600]

@1997buddyboy depends on how old your thinking, anti-siphon designs have been in place on most cars and lightweight trucks since the late 70's.

[@spelunkerd]

When you roll a vehicle do you have to pull all the plugs to evacuate oil from each cylinder? I remember when my dad rolled his Ford truck. He told me that the mechanic turned it over and the engine blew. What is on your checklist before turning over a rolled vehicle?

[@L337Zombie]

Very informative.

[@KillerZero259]

great video brian!!

[@thespiritof76..]

You know you can take a two dollar valve stem tool and screw the valve stem out of your Schroeder valve under your hood put a little piece of fuel line on it turn your ignition switch down and let the fuel pump pump gas out I'll check for you

[@singhsarabjit]

I’m going to try it

[@thespiritof76..]

@@singhsarabjit I had to do it last night on my GMC however to keep from curtain switch on and off I had to run a little clip jumper across my fuel pump relay in the fuse box... pump t out out quick

[@briansmobile1]

welcome

[@yungfoodstamps9312]

just ram a steel stove pipe cleaner rod down it should pop out

[@officermeyer]

What year did they start putting the ball in?

[@Kwikasfuk636]

Mine 2001 and it has one, dam it

[@mrmark8603]

Will it stop the sugar reaching my ex's gas?

[@MrBlackshores]

when you huff the fumes.... just hold it in really long and you'll start tripping BALLS SON!!!! No need to siphon gas to save money for drugs... when you can just huff the gasoline fumes!!!! :D

[@spelunkerd]

@briansmobile1 Thanks, Brian.

[@crocketgsxr6]

yeah this sucks because of the current price of gas. We are donating a car that has almost a full tank...oh well, buy buy gas

[@jamespatric5276]

Very annoying. But thank you for explaining.

[@RichardsWorld]

So... I got to remove this ball on all of my neighbors cars?

[@user-hf2hp3nn8r]

So i can siphon out the gas in my blazer if i take off the filler hose and just put a hose in the opening of the tank Or is there a screen in there thts in the way

[@jeffreyhebner1865]

There's a screen on GM vehicles.

[@briansmobile1]

"LIKE"

[@SunnyWu]

Criminals can still drill a hole.

[@bikedawg]

and create a spark. yeah, right....

[@n.elosangeleskennels9062]

lmfao i was reading his comment i was tlike NO I CAN'T

[@briansmobile1]

@MYpokemonRdeleted Oh dang!

[@dinkmartini3236]

NOW you tell me.

[@ericebbaker]

@briansmobile1 Oh I see... Would they be able to slide a thinner hose passt the green ball tho. Or is it pretty thin of a gap. I see these people in these syphoning gas videos and they all have monster hoses. Wouldn't you be able to get passed the green ball with somthing smaller???

[@retro-lady]

thank you for explaining EXACTLY why the damned tube wouldn't reach down into the 3/4 full tank of gas. i figured there was something there but didn't think it was a damned ball. thank you for showing exactly what is happening past the opening to the gas tank. peace.....

[@jeanettelodge124]

you can drain the gas from by the fuel pump instructions on KZbin

[@BreakinNinja]

Son of a Bitch! no wonder it wasn't working >:(