Why Soldier Boy Is A Better Villain Than Homelander!

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Movie F8

Movie F8

Күн бұрын

The Boys' Season 3, Why Soldier Boy emerges as a superior villain to Homelander. I Know The Boys wouldn’t be anything without Homelander but for me Soldier Boy stole the show in season 3!
Let’s explore his unexpected transformation, quirky traits, and unique blend of humor.
Witness the epic showdown and join the Redditor debate on Soldier Boy vs. Homelander. Discover Soldier Boy's resilience, code of justice, and his pivotal role in 'The Boys' universe. Is he a villain, a hero, or a confused dad?
Share your thoughts on this intriguing character who adds a new dynamic to the upcoming season.
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@MovieF8
@MovieF8 9 ай бұрын
Where do you stand on Soldier Boy? Is he a Hero, Anti-Hero, Anti-Villain or Villain?
@esfratch
@esfratch 9 ай бұрын
He is a Villain, he does not have any empathy to the persons he killed, or a real importance on he's reputation. The only reason that could make sense to some people to be an anti-hero or something similar is because he got the change to defeat homelander. Is not about siding with soldier boy, it was about killing home lander and later deal with soldier boy. One thing is true, soldier boy is less chaotic than homelander, (but that might just be because he's powers aren't destructive as homelander), and like you said, he's better to reason with. But… yeah, he is a villain, he didn't do anything "good" the only thing is that he is honest with himself when it comes to that. Take the part when MM talk to him saying he killed he's family, and he responds which one. He knows he is evil, but he accepts that, not like homelander. Love your vids :d
@arkornelsk7913
@arkornelsk7913 9 ай бұрын
Anti-Hero - Soldier boy is Soldier boy
@MovieF8
@MovieF8 9 ай бұрын
@@esfratch Always fun to read your take on these things! 🔥 As always so far I completely agree with you😊 Loved the character and acting but yeah hes a bit twisted… Thank You, Love your comments! 🔥
@estiellight3233
@estiellight3233 9 ай бұрын
Anti-Villain and as you said he has redeeming qualities, I could see him getting his own spin off or he'd become a real anti-hero because let's be he'll never be a hero but could really question and improve himself in his own series. Unlike Homelander, who took sadistic pleasure in killing all his terrorists in season 1, when he kills it's because he still thinks it's the right thing to do to fix the situation. And no, Soldier Boy isn't really a villain, he's just an asshole who needs to question himself and I sincerely pray that he gets his Spin-Off.
@darlalathan6143
@darlalathan6143 9 ай бұрын
Villain.
@thelegend3965
@thelegend3965 9 ай бұрын
He’s definitely not a straight up Villain, he’s an Anti-Villain. He does have a moral compass, I mean he was willing to kill his own Biological Son to keep his promise to Butcher.
@elijahhayter3026
@elijahhayter3026 9 ай бұрын
Wouldn’t that just make him lawful evil?
@Jurbo33
@Jurbo33 9 ай бұрын
​@@elijahhayter3026i think it would if his son wasn't so clearly already independently evil
@elijahhayter3026
@elijahhayter3026 9 ай бұрын
@@Jurbo33 I always saw HL as neutral evil.
@JohnnyWolfblood
@JohnnyWolfblood 9 ай бұрын
Well anyone who knows what he did to Gunpowder knows he's not straight...
@lasue7244
@lasue7244 9 ай бұрын
@@elijahhayter3026boy do you need to get your eye check then. HL is not even on lawful-neutral-chaotic chart. He's Pure Evil
@panik735
@panik735 9 ай бұрын
Homelander : damaged villain Butcher : vengeful antihero Soldier boy : flawed hero
@ohhellwhereami2574
@ohhellwhereami2574 5 ай бұрын
Imagine hero killing a child family because they are black
@ThatNerdKaizen
@ThatNerdKaizen 2 ай бұрын
It’s kinda interesting cause you can say both homelander and Butcher are both damaged
@thenewclassic8944
@thenewclassic8944 2 ай бұрын
tf are you on?? soldier boy ain't no hero. look at what he did to MM's family and to black noir. it's straight up hate crime.
@Devilish98
@Devilish98 Ай бұрын
@@ThatNerdKaizentrue but id say the difference between b and h is which drives their actions more. For b its clearly vengeance that drives him. Where for h its more like his actions are more reactions that are damage informed
@mistermistermr732
@mistermistermr732 27 күн бұрын
if you think Soldier Boy is a hero in any sort of way you need to go back and watch the show again
@esmineldraaybara6975
@esmineldraaybara6975 9 ай бұрын
Soldier Boy is a better person than Homelander. Which is not really an achievement.
@louiswalusimbi8006
@louiswalusimbi8006 3 ай бұрын
Hey, I’d feel way more comfortable living in a world with Soldier Boy than Homelander
@siddharthshrivastava1399
@siddharthshrivastava1399 3 ай бұрын
​@@louiswalusimbi8006unless you live in a black neighbourhood
@saidi7975
@saidi7975 3 ай бұрын
I mean he is a douche but nowhere near the pile of psycho shit that is Homelander.
@87krull
@87krull 3 ай бұрын
Like saying that a carnival being more civil when he uses a knife and a fork
@jaotrx7163
@jaotrx7163 2 ай бұрын
If soldier boy know about the airplane incident he would 100 try to kill homelander, and he dosent believe he is superior to other jsut becuase he is a super.
@mr.punisher5100
@mr.punisher5100 9 ай бұрын
Honestly if there's any character in The Boys that deserves their own spinoff it has to be Soldier Boy. We haven't seen the full extent of what happened in his life before Homelander was born. It could be set in the 1940s, 50s, 60s and 70s. Maybe get more insight and depth on his childhood and see how he developed into an abusive tyrant. Also the stuff with World War 1 or 2 and the battle against the Soviets
@meritorioustechnate9455
@meritorioustechnate9455 9 ай бұрын
We just need The boys prequel. My favorite episodes are the flashback 😭
@someone3574
@someone3574 8 ай бұрын
That would be so good. Also making scenes like the desembark of Normandia with Soldier Boy there, showing the World War 2, and later Vietnam and the cold war against the URSS... there is so much content mixing real history with superhero content, and like you say, getting deeper in the evolution of Soldier Boy as a character. Much better than Gen V, but also a more expensive show... hope they go for it.
@LilPitbuII
@LilPitbuII 8 ай бұрын
Agreed, would love to see how theyll handle wit his backstory
@The_Punisher
@The_Punisher 3 ай бұрын
Nice profile pic
@KICK839
@KICK839 3 ай бұрын
They probably have spin off after boys get over .
@utkarshasthana3853
@utkarshasthana3853 9 ай бұрын
What didn’t fit right was his past version and his current version, in his past stories he was clearly evil like the rest of the bad heroes but he was more of an anti hero in the recent events. They kept saying he was really bad and worse than homelander but nothing indicated that
@programmable_life
@programmable_life 8 ай бұрын
Actually we never saw him doing anything he likes,The version we saw just wanted to take revenge and abide by his deal with Butcher but after that what would he do, if he wasn't captured that is.
@Proximate1
@Proximate1 8 ай бұрын
@@programmable_life He did say he wanted to settle down and have kids at some point, to raise them up "better than his father did", whether that would succeed is arguable but he definitely didn't seem to have some diabolical, dangerous plan to abuse his power after he concluded his mission, unlike Homelander
@thebearclaw1313
@thebearclaw1313 8 ай бұрын
Being tortured for 40 years tends to humble you. I'm sure he was worse and he was oblivious to people hating him , now he knows and he's chilled more out , and butcher betrayed him like his team. So there's more ptsd
@Teddy3230-u4d
@Teddy3230-u4d 3 ай бұрын
Homelander definitely bullies his team but he rarely lays hands on them…Soldier Boy outright beat the shit out of his team at times. Going off Noir who was with both of them that would make SB worse despite being more mentally stable. It’s not exactly a clean comparison…which is believe was the point…you can make a sound argument about why Soldier Boy would be a harder to beat final boss because he lacks Homelander’s instability but you can keep that reasoning and say that Homelander is more dangerous. I was (and still) on the belief that they should have followed through and killed Homelander and deal with SB later but Butcher pushing Ryan right into Homelander’s grasp made him stumble. That isn’t bad but it was a good thing at the wrong time…too little too late and all that shit
@Gamfluent
@Gamfluent 3 ай бұрын
Villain? I honestly cannot see any action soldier boy did as evil, he fulfilled what was asked of him till the very end, he even put hughie in his place which was very much needed, had they never betrayed SB he’d have ended two current problems
@Jere746
@Jere746 9 ай бұрын
Not even a debate, I was rooting for Soldier Boy till the end. I hope he comes back. Edit after the finale: Yessir!!! 🗿🗿
@The__Deadman
@The__Deadman 9 ай бұрын
You rooting for Soldier Boy proves Homelander being a better villain lol.
@Jere746
@Jere746 9 ай бұрын
@@The__Deadman Well, yeah obviously. Since Soldier is not even a villain.
@J10005
@J10005 9 ай бұрын
​@@The__DeadmanIt makes him a slightly more complex villain since you can empathize with him more.
@The__Deadman
@The__Deadman 9 ай бұрын
@@J10005 No, relatable villains are over done and in a lot of cases that makes them less of a villain. Soldier Boy isn't even comparable to Homelander as a villain, idk why there's so much hype around him. He's a cool character fs but Homelander is the one who makes you uncomfortable and scared for other characters every time he's on screen. He's one of the best modern villains, probably ever.
@The__Deadman
@The__Deadman 9 ай бұрын
@@Jere746 Depents on who you ask cause he is really a piece of shit. But yeah compared to Homelander he's not.
@peterkujo2281
@peterkujo2281 9 ай бұрын
he isnt a villain, hes a very powerful asshole. he can show honor and does not seem to take pleasure in killing innocent people, also during the payback fight scene, soldier boy is actively fighting the enemy forces.
@Wes_Bradley-Taubner
@Wes_Bradley-Taubner 7 ай бұрын
Dude regularly abused his friends so many times that they were willing to risk their lives to put him down. He’s 100% a villain. A racist, sexist, homophobic, unstable, abusive, narcissistic villain. He’s by far my favourite character, but part of what makes him a good character is that he’s one of the few villains who actually tries to be a hero but sucks so much as a person that he’s still a villain
@cheesemccheese5780
@cheesemccheese5780 4 ай бұрын
@@Wes_Bradley-Taubner His "friends" are superheroes who the show shows that superheroes tend to be pretty bad people so him being abusive to them doesn't really generate much emotion from me or the rest of the audience I assume. "racist, sexist, homophobic" The guy was born in 1919 and his racism, sexism and homophobia for a successful man born on that year is very mild.
@paintrain8863
@paintrain8863 2 ай бұрын
In the show it didnt look like he have problem with gay people or black people or that he was sexist.
@thenovalabs
@thenovalabs Ай бұрын
@@Wes_Bradley-Taubner only proof of that is black noirs cartoons we see no actual evidence of him doing that
@thenovalabs
@thenovalabs Ай бұрын
@@Wes_Bradley-Taubnerwhere do you see racism, homophobia is good and normal for people his age to
@TitoFrito5445
@TitoFrito5445 9 ай бұрын
Im adding him to my dream blunt rotation
@josemias
@josemias 9 ай бұрын
All fun and games until he sees a black guy
@najpalace3458
@najpalace3458 9 ай бұрын
@@josemiashe’s a lot of things but idk if he’s racist…I mean he was partying and got roofied by bill Cosby 😂😂yea homophobic and sexist but idk about racist well at least not towards black people😂
@bigmo8588
@bigmo8588 8 ай бұрын
Didnt he say he loves bill cosby?
@TitoFrito5445
@TitoFrito5445 8 ай бұрын
I like Cosby 😈
@noultraa
@noultraa 3 ай бұрын
@@TitoFrito5445 let him bring beverages to the blunt rotation
@tristinmcclain5451
@tristinmcclain5451 9 ай бұрын
I think the only reason soldier boy works so well is directly because of homelander, theyre both bad people but theyre opposites, homelamder is a man child obsessed with being loved, soldier boy is a mans man who takes it to the extreme, soldier boy wouldnt work nearly as well if we didnt have homelander to compare him to
@Casual-Yohoho-Enjoyer
@Casual-Yohoho-Enjoyer 2 ай бұрын
Huh, it's kinda weird how in a way Soldier Boy is what Homelander wants to be while Homelander is what Soldier Boy wanted to prove he wasn't to his father
@zibanic
@zibanic 2 ай бұрын
Excellent way to put it, soldier boy is an interesting character because he addresses toxic and fragile masculinity (although many fans do not realize this). (Although Homelander is better written, deeper and with more themes than soldier boy)
@BlackMarvel25
@BlackMarvel25 4 ай бұрын
He's absolutely not a villain. I hate how they did him at the end.
@CINEMIKE_01
@CINEMIKE_01 2 ай бұрын
He molested gunpowder……
@thenewclassic8944
@thenewclassic8944 2 ай бұрын
MM and black noir: ............
@fortrohan-brawlstars2745
@fortrohan-brawlstars2745 Ай бұрын
Black noir? Willing to kill anyone that comes infront him and killing homelander, naming every person who loves others a pussy? More a bully than a villain.
@chadbinette3201
@chadbinette3201 9 ай бұрын
I didn't question anything, I loved soldier boy haha. I hope he comes back wearing the black noir suit just to really mess with homelander's head .
@Isthatnocturnal
@Isthatnocturnal 6 ай бұрын
Fuckin perfect top tier idea
@BezddRed
@BezddRed 3 ай бұрын
Considering with how Black Noir was treated in the comics, that'd be perfect imo
@JoaoVictor-rg5ix
@JoaoVictor-rg5ix 2 ай бұрын
Hell of an idea bro. They might as well do it. 😅
@Barot8
@Barot8 8 ай бұрын
Jenson really knocked it out of the park with his performance.
@MovieF8
@MovieF8 8 ай бұрын
@Barot8 Agreed💯
@Errorvirus404
@Errorvirus404 8 ай бұрын
The thing i feel about soldier boy is that deep down he hates himself. All his life he was treated terribly by his own father and used by vaught, which led him to develop an inferiority complex. He acts the way he does as a way to hide his pain. All he ever wanted was to be loved by his father, a father he could never please. Soldier boy had problems due to his father's neglect so much that he couldn't even keep up in school. So his father sent him to boarding school just to so he wouldn't be around him but of course he failed in that to. So having enough of him he called him a disappointment to which ben became soldier boy and becoming the greatest american hero hope it would change his father's mind but of course it still didn't work. Even after years have pasted and his father died the pain his father left him with turned into just as much as a terrible person as his father. He tried so hard not to believe his father was right about him but when he confronted homelander for the last time, seeing so much of the terrible person he himself was in his own son homelander he finally saw that his dad was right. Soldier wanted to raise his kids to be better them himself but in the end homelander became a darker reflection of him. When it comes down to it Soldier boy isn't evil like homelander or other supes but just a man who can't let go of the past who does horrible things to vent out his pain.
@MovieF8
@MovieF8 8 ай бұрын
@EvilBoyGenius666 Agree!💯 You can really feel for most of the characters in The Boys, Hats off to the writers and hats off to you for this comment! 🔥
@Errorvirus404
@Errorvirus404 8 ай бұрын
@@MovieF8 thanks. And thanks for making the video.
@MovieF8
@MovieF8 8 ай бұрын
@@Errorvirus404 Thank You!🤝
@godzillazfriction
@godzillazfriction 3 ай бұрын
​@@MovieF8the whole dilemma of 'Hero & Villain' is something that serves to give out 'meaning' as a concept, but it exemplifies the allegorical and paradoxical nature of trying to give out 'meaning' - for and against Humanity aka Human Nature or what it means to be 'Human'... 'Morality' as with other concepts/dilemma's such as 'Normality' - 'Good & E_iL, Hero & Villain' - etcetera, etcetera... it all stems from a subset of an 'idea' that forms a set of standards that gets objectified in (perceived) truth of what it's supposed to be as and what it should be... these 'ideas' are only stemmed or derived by the Human impulse/Genome regarding the Ideological factor of 'meaning', it's happening today as how it's always been happening since Humans have settled in...
@redfuriesanimations
@redfuriesanimations 9 ай бұрын
Soldier Boy is the real hero, he doesn’t relish in murder. He beats out Billy Butcher morally, as he doesn’t go back on his word. He’s paranoid sure, but it’s justified given what’s happened to him. I think Ryan and Soldier Boy will be the ones to finally wipe out Homelander as Billy Butcher is probably going to die next season. For a spin-off show though, what about “Soldier Boy: Hero of Heroes”.
@paintrain8863
@paintrain8863 2 ай бұрын
His show "Hero of Heroes". I like that
@Kingitsmyname
@Kingitsmyname 3 ай бұрын
I love the fact bro just picks up the gas bomb and just smokes it
@thenewclassic8944
@thenewclassic8944 2 ай бұрын
he's so sigma skibidi toilet he smoked the bomb woof woof woof
@BlazingOwnager
@BlazingOwnager 9 ай бұрын
I hated his portrayal in Gen V. He should have been the fake persona, the All American good guy she would have known, not the real Soldier Boy. It was a huge plot hole.
@sumanchaturvedi3415
@sumanchaturvedi3415 8 ай бұрын
To me he is an anti hero he just had to kill his own son as a promise otherwise he just wanted a bloodline and he just wanted revenge for what the team did to him to me.
@kingol4801
@kingol4801 8 ай бұрын
He is very abusive, racist and kills people for fun.
@canaan5337
@canaan5337 2 ай бұрын
2:49 those women aren’t older than him he hasn’t aged since 1950 he’s like 120 years old. He looks like he’s in his 40s but a 60-year-old woman is half his age.
@Foxster_13
@Foxster_13 9 ай бұрын
I feel Soldier Boy is probably a better...... person than Homelander, not by much, of course, but I feel that, as you say, he does what he feels is right, I believe he does what he does because he actually cares about the people of America whereas Honelander only wants the love of the people or more simply, he wants them to care about him more than he cares about them. However, I have always wondered what Soldier Boy would have been like as a father to Homelander. Would he have really stepped aside for Honelander to take his place, or would he have been a terrible father? Either way, perhaps it might have made Homelander a better person if Soldier Boy was kept around and not given to the Russians. I'm not saying that he'd 100% be better, but there might be a chance.
@MovieF8
@MovieF8 9 ай бұрын
@Foxster_13 Agreed!💯 Doubt that Homelander would be worse but got a feeling that season 4 will bring some surprises 😄
@Lastjustice
@Lastjustice 9 ай бұрын
Homelander would probably turned out far better had Soldier Boy raised him. He lacked people in his life to ground him. He broke a nurse on accident and took the wrong lesson that people are fragile insects. Even if he hated his father, he would at least had a relationship and dealt with someone who could kept him in line for most of his life. This would have grounded him so much more. I think Soldier boy would push Homelander be someone he could been proud of even if he thought his dad was overbearing. Homelander will actually strive to be a hero instead just pretending to be one. Homelander lost his way because there was no one with a firm hand to keep him in check. Even as an adult Homelander really just wanted a father in his life. He at the end of the day is a scared little boy who never learned how truly be a man. I believe both of them would been better for a relationship with each other.
@izuela7677
@izuela7677 8 ай бұрын
I think past him bought into his cult of personality. The hype. So he acted like an entitled diva. I think the decades of captivity, betrayed and abandoned, gave him a lot of time to think about how fake it all was... And PTSD.
@imnotgood5776
@imnotgood5776 3 ай бұрын
I was 100% rooting against the boys and Homelander in that season final battle
@JohnnyWolfblood
@JohnnyWolfblood 9 ай бұрын
I'd hate to be that guy, but Homelander was solidly winning when it was one on one. It took three guys with super strength to even hurt him.
@Ace_Bandido808
@Ace_Bandido808 8 ай бұрын
He wouldn't kill soldier boy tho. In the end it took almost all the heroes to hold down soldier boy.
@JohnnyWolfblood
@JohnnyWolfblood 8 ай бұрын
If it was a 1v1 match to the death, I'm betting on Homelander. When it's JUST the two of them Homelander is noticeably winning.
@isaiahbrown9402
@isaiahbrown9402 8 ай бұрын
@@JohnnyWolfbloodidk bout that soldier boy can de power homelander
@riderchallenge4250
@riderchallenge4250 3 ай бұрын
now ryan is more powerful than his father, grandfather and step father
@MuhammedZayid-ij5xn
@MuhammedZayid-ij5xn 2 ай бұрын
He was depowored in their first fight , because he just nuclear blasted
@Dylan-ji1xx
@Dylan-ji1xx 2 ай бұрын
I'd rather have soldier boy on the loose over homelander anyday. He wouldn't ever destroy the world's because it hurt his feelings. That is literally homelanders whole thing is that anything could tip him over the edge
@87krull
@87krull 8 ай бұрын
I always found Soldier Boy to be a crossover between Captain America and Big Boss. Simply having swapped the eyepatch out for a bad attitude 🤩
@MovieF8
@MovieF8 8 ай бұрын
@87krull 😂🔥
@molom1741
@molom1741 9 ай бұрын
I think, that soldier boy more than anything, ia a superstar, but in contrast to homelander, and the essay in modern celebrity culture, that shows homelander constant need for approval, and how fast it can go away, soldier boy simply is. Henceforth he has absolutely no need to care for anybody else, and yet, he somewhat does! Even though he had severe daddy issues, he tried to love crimson countess, and was forgotten, imagine how much that would hurt. And i might add that he in fact somehow served his country, in black opp missions, and by being a symbol, and not only vought forgot him, but america, the love of his life, and his workmates, and yet, after all of that, he still kept true to his word. And saw the worst of himself in his son, homelander, giving him the chance to finally be better, holding my breath to see where they will take his journey! Amazing video!
@MovieF8
@MovieF8 9 ай бұрын
@molom1741 Amazing Comment! 🔥
@livingashtree1942
@livingashtree1942 8 ай бұрын
On point
@IsaacFaraci-np7vi
@IsaacFaraci-np7vi 3 ай бұрын
I don’t think he ever became the antagonist. He was the only one who kept the deal. He was betrayed. His anger at the boys if/when he returns will be justified.
@loganpaul9759
@loganpaul9759 3 ай бұрын
He may have attacked his team but it’s not like they where all angels, they where murders and show pony’s for hire as much as he was
@DKing-du6xr
@DKing-du6xr 2 ай бұрын
A spinoff with soldier boy, vaught, that weird doctor, stormfront and god knows all the many other unmentioned characters that contributed heavily into the supe creation would be a very cool and entertaining show!
@BlazingOwnager
@BlazingOwnager 9 ай бұрын
They should have let Soldier Boy do his thing. When push comes to shove, he does not want to burn the world to ash because of mommy issues. And that makes him infinitely better than Homelander.
@idontuploadanym0re
@idontuploadanym0re 3 ай бұрын
i prefer soldier boy as a character. probably because we’ve been following homelander for multiple seasons. having a new semi antagonist was quite refreshing.
@confusedgreenbean6137
@confusedgreenbean6137 8 ай бұрын
Lowkey if he ever returns i can see him being the main villain cause hes literally coming after everyone the second hes out, butcher, the rest of the boys, even ryan and homelander
@therodian96
@therodian96 2 ай бұрын
I don't consider Soldier Boy a villain, I would say he is more like an anti hero but a really f*cked up one. Is he a good person? Hell no but he has a moral compass, he stands to his words and doesn't kill everyone like homelander does just because he can. He doesn what needs to be done, addresses things as they are and is not afraid of how people will react. Unlike Homelander, he actually seems to care about things and people atleast a little bit.
@alfonsovidal1759
@alfonsovidal1759 9 ай бұрын
The first time i ended tge entire season 3 i was like 'soldier boy= the goat'
@aussiewanderer6304
@aussiewanderer6304 9 ай бұрын
I he'd won the fight, he might have joined the Seven. I'm just imagining poor Ashley having to deal with him...
@skyguy5548
@skyguy5548 Ай бұрын
Ashley survived Homelander, Soldier Boy would be a much easier for her
@Elactyrl9343
@Elactyrl9343 8 ай бұрын
The way things ended, Soldier Boy is the only hero left on the show. They f'ed up by having Billy turn on Soldier Boy after Soldier Boy kept his word with Billy to take out his own son!
@louiswalusimbi8006
@louiswalusimbi8006 3 ай бұрын
I think the reason he is far less evil than he was in the past is because he was tortured for forty years with no hope of escape, realizing he’s not invincible humbled him, even if he’d never, ever, ever, ever, EVER, admit it.
@pompom-yr3sx
@pompom-yr3sx 3 ай бұрын
anti villain- does good things for the wrong reasons villain- does bad things for bad reasons hero-does good things for good reasons anti hero-does bad things for the right reasons
@realTheHomelander
@realTheHomelander 3 ай бұрын
we need this man save the season🙏
@howdoichangemyusername9802
@howdoichangemyusername9802 8 ай бұрын
I find it strange that people think SB is this morally ambiguous character when I think he was just a prototype Homelander. Someone made to be an extremely marketable topic. Like HL, he represents what was marketable during his time. Hard work, patriotism, a focus on nuclear family, and abstinence from drugs when he’s the complete opposite. He was born with a golden spoon in his mouth, probably takes enough drugs to put 1000 people in a catatonic state and doesn’t even know what it was like to be in the front lines, likely just buying into the the marketing. Whilst his relationship with Crimson Countess isn’t really explored, it’s clear that his affairs did have an affect on her if Mallory’s flashbacks are accurate in which she is physically annoyed by his advances in Mallory. But like HL, he does have an inflated ego of himself. In that parody anti-drug ad he’s angered at introducing himself claiming that the world knows who he is. Very similar to S2 where HL claims that even someone from the Middle East and no exposure to America could recognize him. He’s angered when Butcher claims HL took his spot, suggesting he thinks no one could ever achieve the acclaim and status he had. And most notably was the Black Noir incident, where he purposely sabotaged his chance at moving up in the world and violently assaulted him when he attempted to argue and threatened to kill him if Black Noir had ever attempted to rise above being his lackey. Overall, he’s just a bad person and the fact his team sold him out with the only compensation being they’d never deal with him again really shows that. He serves to reflect of Captain America as Homelander does Superman. Honelander delves into a Superman who’s treated as a product rather than a person. Soldier Boy showcases what happens when power is given to a person with horrendous ideals. His traits aren’t supposed to highlight him a nuanced person. They highlight that even evil people have their own traits and hobbies. Hitler still had things he probably enjoyed doing, but that wouldn’t stop him from being the personification of evil.
@Teddy3230-u4d
@Teddy3230-u4d 8 ай бұрын
He is a villain….that ending with Homelander….he ended up deciding to go through with it because he was disgusted with him. He does seem to have morals but having morals won’t make someone an anti-hero, he is about himself and he is abusive. He’s the guy who embraced toxic masculinity and is shocked that others don’t have loyalty to him…somewhat understandable as society told him to be that. You could say he is a sympathetic villain at most
@kingol4801
@kingol4801 8 ай бұрын
I am glad you understood the message so well. Most people get taken ahold by the actor’s charisma and ignore what he stands for entirely…
@Teddy3230-u4d
@Teddy3230-u4d 8 ай бұрын
@@kingol4801 yeah being more complex than a one-dimensional cartoon villain doesn’t make a bad guy an anti-hero. They can be understood and related to but they’re still bad.
@SpiderCop
@SpiderCop 3 ай бұрын
"toxic masculinity" lol, its a made up word only spoken by little girls.
@Iamnobody257
@Iamnobody257 2 ай бұрын
"Toxic Masculinity" really? Woke for life then I guess 😂
@CameraPunk5049
@CameraPunk5049 9 ай бұрын
Villain? Bruh he was great. He is like a more alcholic version of Ultimate Captain America lol
@SaturnineXTS
@SaturnineXTS 2 ай бұрын
Soldier Boy was supremely entertaining. An unapologetically insensitive jerk in an era of super sanitized characters. Kripke had some real balls to write a character like this, and it really paid off
@baron_mijail7752
@baron_mijail7752 8 ай бұрын
Homelander: Psychopath villain Butcher: Anti-hero blinded by revenge Soldier boy: Rambo with PTSD and superpowers brought back to life
@Guyverman01
@Guyverman01 9 ай бұрын
If Captain America let PTSD get the better of him.
@fourmondnoah4013
@fourmondnoah4013 2 ай бұрын
He’s not even a vilain
@Ash-Winchester
@Ash-Winchester 9 ай бұрын
The thing I like most about soldier boy is that he's a walking allegory for disempowering the capitalist/ruling class. Given that the radioactive blasts he fires from his chest can neutralize compound v and makes supes normal again.
@aks19880
@aks19880 2 ай бұрын
It's the way Antony Starr plays Homelander that makes him more dislikeable than Soldier Boy. Jensen Ackles has such a good looking face that I didn't see him as a villain even though he was playing one.
@tripleh2621
@tripleh2621 8 ай бұрын
Actually when I debated with people I asked them why is Soldier Boy a villain (considering that Butcher and Kimiko somehow aren't') - NO LIBERAL could have answered me! Because he is not we just have to open our eyes and see that he is even better than many "heroes" in the show
@MouldMadeMind
@MouldMadeMind 8 ай бұрын
Are these "liberals" in the room with you right now?
@tripleh2621
@tripleh2621 8 ай бұрын
@@MouldMadeMind What???
@beatbites.mp4
@beatbites.mp4 Ай бұрын
I like soldier boy more bcs he seems more socially adjusted , with homelander you can tell he grew up in a lab and has little charisma
@abdosoliman
@abdosoliman 2 ай бұрын
Soldier Boy slapping Hughie when he called him out about on his BS. Sums him perfectly he is not a mad psycho with a god Complex like homelander. he doesn't just kill anybody on a whim he Hughie insults to his face and he got pissed off but unlike homelander he doesn't view normal people as inferior. I believe Soldier Boy is more Human after all he lived almost all his life as a normal human taking V in his 20s a couple of years before he is captured by the Russians.
@KittySnicker
@KittySnicker Ай бұрын
I thought Soldier Boy was an okay guy until I saw Black Noir’s flashbacks in that restaurant. But yes, I loved the moral dilemma during that fight.
@manaba0087
@manaba0087 2 ай бұрын
He has his code of conduct, An Anti-villain for me.
@popcrazyfishProductions
@popcrazyfishProductions Ай бұрын
He's doesn't have enough world influence to be a big enough threat as a villain
@Snickersowaty
@Snickersowaty 2 ай бұрын
Homelander: person who has been controlled and abused his whole life and finally has enough. Soldier Boy: person who had too much freedom and abused it, which led to his dawnfall.
@aminebatista4235
@aminebatista4235 2 ай бұрын
he is a hero for me and he is the best character for me , and soldier boy is a real man so i hope to see him again
@Evoker23-lx8mb
@Evoker23-lx8mb 3 ай бұрын
Soldier Boy’s not necessarily a villain. He’s an anti hero or an anti villain. He’s morally questionable yet but he has a moral compass however flawed that moral compass is.
@FatManJackson
@FatManJackson 2 ай бұрын
He is not a better Villain, he is a great Anti-Hero. Like Butcher, just as a separate entity/faction.
@thenewclassic8944
@thenewclassic8944 2 ай бұрын
he's NOT an anti-hero. have you even watched the show??
@FatManJackson
@FatManJackson 2 ай бұрын
@@thenewclassic8944 hAvE yOu EvEn WaTcHeD tHe ShoW?
@The__Deadman
@The__Deadman 9 ай бұрын
Imo it's not close. Homelander is the heart of the show and more entertaining to watch.
@Kenya-Kikuyu
@Kenya-Kikuyu 8 ай бұрын
Soldier Boy 2024 7:02 😂😂😂
@FantasticFourJohnnyStorm
@FantasticFourJohnnyStorm 9 ай бұрын
I'm not a fucking supervillain.
@YoungSweezy
@YoungSweezy 2 ай бұрын
Its wild that they came up with Butcher, Homelander and SoldierBoy as three compelling douchebags who all think they are the heroes. All bad, all good in some ways, with realistic backstories that showed their trauma and all entertaining to watch.
@kazikhalid6197
@kazikhalid6197 2 ай бұрын
SB was fucked up in his own way but he actually felt bad for nuking bunch of people in the market.Something HL completely lacks. Don't know if he was actually as bad as his old teammates said , as he was kinda different when butcher rescued him .
@WakingTheDemon04
@WakingTheDemon04 8 ай бұрын
Homelander is Joffrey, Soldier Boy is Ramsay
@MovieF8
@MovieF8 8 ай бұрын
@WakingTheDemon04 Nice One!🔥
@robertbaratheon8635
@robertbaratheon8635 8 ай бұрын
He's not a villain, probably is an anti-hero but definitely not a villain
@aarons1705
@aarons1705 9 ай бұрын
1. SB isn't a better villain and not a better character, je gets carried by cold lines. 2. SB is definitly also a villain, he is literally descriped as the orginal Homelander!
@michaelmckenna2179
@michaelmckenna2179 9 ай бұрын
You're missing the point the point is Billy will bo anything to kill Homlander .... mothers milk will do anything to kill sb so Billy turns on mm ( his brother) to get his ending despite his all super are bad
@gogbpackers12
@gogbpackers12 2 ай бұрын
Jensen Ackles made that character. He’s charismatic and really came through for that role. He’s really the only reason why I’d want to watch the show.
@alatusedits
@alatusedits 3 ай бұрын
Because he's a Real Man🗿
@OblivionDragma
@OblivionDragma 2 ай бұрын
Ngl I like soldier boy better than homelander.. idk, he just looks cooler lol
@someone3574
@someone3574 8 ай бұрын
Both are insane villains, love them two. But I think Homelander is better as a Villain. It has so much juice. All his insecurities hidden under his insane power, the image hi wants to show and how he really is... its just insane, and the actor is too good. For me, Homelander is one of the best villains ever in a TV show. Soldier Boy is a TOP antagonist for a season, but I don't see him better than Homelander.
@hybrid1540
@hybrid1540 3 ай бұрын
I wouldn’t say better than Homelander but he’s definitely a good antagonist
@ghostwriter1440
@ghostwriter1440 8 ай бұрын
Soldier boy reminds me of Shane from The Walking Dead in that he is a bit of a loose cannon but is not devoid of redeeming qualities ,planting a foot on either side of the line between villain and perhaps tragic anti hero? Antagonists like this set up a foil to allow other characters to develop while at the same time holds a mirror to the audience to reflect on their own morality- which can be as one dimensional as a reflection if viewed straight or imply extra depth and dimension if viewed from an angle
@BenDover-cq6rr
@BenDover-cq6rr 7 ай бұрын
Feels like the writers realised too late that they made Soldier Boy way too likeable and tried to throw him under the bus with the whole "he never stormed D-Day" angle. Which is within itself a terrible wiritng choice as they threw away an opportunity to show the disparity between a legitimate hero who killed nazis (Soldier Boy) having to come to terms with the fact that every hero in the modern day is a phony junkie who shits on what he thought a hero could be. Something like that is easily represented even in fight scenes where the skilled battle hardened Soldier Boy mops the floor with all of the PR "heroes" who dont even know how to fight against someone equal to themselves. An old timey legitimate hero brought to the modern day only to see how far his dream has fallen and then having to humble every supe he comes across to accomplish his mission would of been fantastic in sowing conflict amongst any supe that comes across him as they realise they aren't even close to being as good as they should be.
@CalebRamirez-m6c
@CalebRamirez-m6c 3 ай бұрын
If only
@chongwillson972
@chongwillson972 2 ай бұрын
@BenDover so basically, he is flawless hero who always easily beating everyone he comes across and saying how good everything back in day was?
@TheAsocialArtist
@TheAsocialArtist 3 ай бұрын
Twist villain my ass, name one person who sided with homelander during the finale.
@micckeymol4396
@micckeymol4396 3 ай бұрын
If Soldier Boy doesn't come back it will be such a missed chance
@sflvideos3878
@sflvideos3878 2 ай бұрын
I would love to see a Soldier Boy spinoff of some sort.
@JohnnyWolfblood
@JohnnyWolfblood 9 ай бұрын
Also, do you remember what he did to Gunpowder? Also he tried to kill his son. Homelander is definitely the lesser of two evils.
@crypt5129
@crypt5129 8 ай бұрын
He physically abused Gunpowder, Homelander did a rape (likely several considering his character) Homelander is an actual threat to billions of lives, it would be evil of Soldier Boy to let him live because they're related, him refusing to go back on his word and trying to kill Homelander does not make him evil
@JohnnyWolfblood
@JohnnyWolfblood 8 ай бұрын
If you listen to what Billy said to Gunpowder at the urinal you'll know Soldier Boy did some OTHER kind of abuse as well. Also, Soldier Boy actually seems way more likely to turn on innocents than Homelander. Homelander isn't a saint but at least with him you have a chance.
@Blanke-i3h
@Blanke-i3h 8 ай бұрын
His son is a psychopath
@promeneuzivotu117
@promeneuzivotu117 8 ай бұрын
​@@Blanke-i3h yeah honestly if my child ever does something like Homelander i would probobly commit a murder-suicide.
@blackdynamite_5470
@blackdynamite_5470 9 ай бұрын
He's not a bad guy When I grow up, I wanna be like Jensen Ackles 😊
@sagenerd419
@sagenerd419 9 ай бұрын
He just seems like the comedian but actually evil 🤷🏽‍♂️
@calumgreen3026
@calumgreen3026 8 ай бұрын
Stannis mentioned, I’m sold.
@j_allmightee8934
@j_allmightee8934 2 ай бұрын
Just have to remember soldier boy is about 100 years old. So you get old man sensibilities without the old body
@itaboi309
@itaboi309 3 ай бұрын
I understood why they let Homelander wonder with butcher, but in real life, Butcher and Soldier would have killed Homelander, and then Butcher and Soldier Boy would have gone on his merry way. I don't believe Soldier Boy would of stuck around much more and caused many issues
@thanos2271
@thanos2271 9 ай бұрын
Soldier boy kinda did nothing wrong when he got released (definitely was a pos before he was captured)
@mitsukami
@mitsukami 4 ай бұрын
Homelander is aware that he is mentally broken, and that his evil actions are caused by pleasure or lack of control. Soldier Boy believes he is a true hero, while he cannot or does not want to understand the fact that he did bad things. I believe that Soldier Boy is not hated like Homelander, because he simply appeared for a few episodes, while Homelander had dozens of scenes dedicated to him.
@SuperheroRockstar
@SuperheroRockstar 2 ай бұрын
Soldier Boy is a hero. He just happens to also be a very, very shitty person. Homelander is the villain.
@DhirC35
@DhirC35 9 ай бұрын
Honestly coming down to it ill support homelander over him in that context at the end.
@Jrh-rp7np
@Jrh-rp7np 2 ай бұрын
I know we wouldn’t have a show if not for The Boys,, But,, let’s be honest Homelander would have killed all of them by now…
@berkin88punk
@berkin88punk 9 ай бұрын
He is not villain he is our idol
@DaniRavioli
@DaniRavioli 2 ай бұрын
I really, really like Soldier Boy. But I can’t because of what he did to Noir and his motivations behind it. If they took that out id think he was great!
@sevenwordsmusic
@sevenwordsmusic 2 ай бұрын
But that's just how Black Noir remembers it, and Black Noir is a murderer too... so~
@Sorrus-B4lyfe
@Sorrus-B4lyfe 3 ай бұрын
= The big fight scene turned into a Cartoon diminishes his value. Because all we see from him is that he comes off as an asshole… that’s about it. We don’t “witness” just how cruel and messed up he is, unless you mean Noir’s cartoon memory of it… when it’s in cartoon form it’s honestly laughable and just diminishes the moment because SHOULD we believe the moment was that devastating in a cute cartoon style??? Otherwise Soldier boy is just hunting his old crew and they “say” he was this evil guy. While we see Homelander laser a plane… refuse to save people on a plane… laser people… Butcher’s wife… so many victims. Soldier boy felt like a filler arc, all hyped up, led to nothing and he’s gone… to seemingly come back later??
@chongwillson972
@chongwillson972 2 ай бұрын
@Sorrus-B4lyfe he still kills innocent people with much a care like homelander does like with MM backstory.
@RohitMitrad
@RohitMitrad 2 ай бұрын
Nice analysis
@He-Man00
@He-Man00 3 ай бұрын
I can't tell if the show was trying to make me root against him or not. Because if it did, THEY FAILED. He is far too likable. The attempt to make me see him as the final bad guy sat wrong with me, there was nothing satisfying about seeing him brought down. This MAY HAVE been intentional, but season 4 has so far not addressed this
@ivanhunter6492
@ivanhunter6492 3 ай бұрын
Being a better person that Homelander isn't a high bar to begin with
@theeternalgus9119
@theeternalgus9119 Ай бұрын
Soldier Boy is a hero. He fought in Normandy. Get your facts straight.
@Nuke_Skywalker
@Nuke_Skywalker 2 ай бұрын
quick tip: please mix the clips not louder than your voice over. thanks. :)
@matthewwiseedits
@matthewwiseedits 2 ай бұрын
Really good analysis
@AH-is5yg
@AH-is5yg 3 ай бұрын
I didn't feel bad for Soldier Boy when he was betrayed the first time. I was happy when the Boys betrayed him at the end of season 3.
@papadoc331
@papadoc331 8 ай бұрын
The thing is Homelander will burn the world down if he gets mad. Hes insanely unstable and will not hesitate to kill and destroy everyhting and everyone if they stand in his way of global domination. Soldier Boy is a dickhead but hes no threat to world peace, hes just a chill dude who wants to sit around drinking and smoking weed
@MovieF8
@MovieF8 8 ай бұрын
@papadoc331 Agree!🔥💯
@Conan_the_Based
@Conan_the_Based 3 ай бұрын
It's funny. I never once saw Soldier Boy as a villain. All of his actions had some underlying justification, and if you were to point out this-or-that characteristic of his, just remember that he's existing in the universe of The Boys, not the MCU. Everybody is a moral train wreck in some way or another. He actually stands above them all in ways.
@saptarsi7868
@saptarsi7868 29 күн бұрын
soldier boy isn't a better villain than Homelander it's like saying Batman is a better villain than joker.
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