How Soldier Boy Changed The Way We Look at Villains (The Boys)

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Burden of Best

Burden of Best

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@burdenofbest
@burdenofbest Жыл бұрын
Alright to all the new people watching this video confused why theres a jarring cut at 0:43. the music I used in that segment got claimed and theres really no way that I could do anything about it, KZbin doesn't let me go in and edit again once a video is published so I had to just trim it out. luckily it was only around 30 seconds of me talking about Homelander and I make the point that he's basically become a protagonist to the show like Walter White and Tony Soprano, were we see them do evil but stick with them. you didn't miss much and I hope you enjoy the rest of the video.
@michaelsmitha.k.a.mr.drago3656
@michaelsmitha.k.a.mr.drago3656 Жыл бұрын
What did you rhino of soldier boy in Gen V, I thought it was entertaining but jarring in many ways
@Syuvinya
@Syuvinya Жыл бұрын
@@michaelsmitha.k.a.mr.drago3656 I mean soldier boy in Gen V was literally a gag. He was someone's imagination.
@thejustinsteffan
@thejustinsteffan Жыл бұрын
No shit. You didn't say anything the entire video. You just said what happened.
@ayami123
@ayami123 Жыл бұрын
Soldier boys values Principles, Which the whole Protagonist Lacks
@againstallenemies215
@againstallenemies215 Жыл бұрын
😅😅 3:31 3:31 3:31 3:31
@robertcopp2411
@robertcopp2411 Жыл бұрын
Homelander knows he's wrong but doesn't care. Soldierboy thinks he's right, and cares a lot
@MrObasilawrence
@MrObasilawrence Жыл бұрын
And both are the reason why season 3 was so beautiful
@blacky8987
@blacky8987 Жыл бұрын
is easy to see who is who soldier boy dont kill people for fun homelander kill people for fun we can see who is the bad guy here but the show try so hard to telll us that soldier boi is bad but never show us why he is bad
@nitrogenbubbles4555
@nitrogenbubbles4555 Жыл бұрын
​@@blacky8987We see why he is bad plenty. He is abusive to everyone around him. Are we saying that, someone isn't bad simply because they don't particularly like killing? Is that really the bar for morality being given?
@FirstnameLastname-my7bz
@FirstnameLastname-my7bz Жыл бұрын
@@nitrogenbubbles4555 EVERYONE is abusive in this show, especially all the women. Who is "we"? No, Soldier Boy is objectively morally superior to any of the protagonists because he is consistent, he doesn't derail on his own words and promises, he cares, he was never shown to kill anyone innocent after his revival from Russia unless by accident where he had 0 control due to mk ultra like experiments on him. + there is poster of Huey Newton in Mother's Milk room therefore one of these "good" guys is Definitely an unreliable narrator and this just happens to be the guy what *says* that Soldier Boy is bad entire 3rd season (funny how he had 0 recalls of their shared past in previous seasons)
@FirstnameLastname-my7bz
@FirstnameLastname-my7bz Жыл бұрын
@@AugmentedEdits666 except he is consistently great (after his return) You can't name ANYONE who is morally superior to Soldier Boy and his *conscious* actions No, I am supporting this dude beсause he is literally morally superior character in entire Season 3. You can argue by bringing up Season 1 and 2, but by Season 3 all of these "good" characters killеd innoсеnt people, endagered innосеnt pеоple, bасk pedаled which led to dеаth of innoсеnt people, etc. Unlike Solider Boy. But anyways, you are 666 fan, you have inverted morals anyways. Unreliable narrator in the first place.
@williamhanna9718
@williamhanna9718 Жыл бұрын
Soldier Boy honored the deal he made with Butcher, and was going to follow through with his part even when Butcher got cold feet cause of the kid.
@baconeggcheesepodcast9390
@baconeggcheesepodcast9390 Жыл бұрын
Wait what happened
@williamhanna9718
@williamhanna9718 Жыл бұрын
After they turned on him
@rfcfanj7911
@rfcfanj7911 Жыл бұрын
@@Sub4AWillToLivebecause butcher betrayed him and they where trying to drug him. The last time he was in this situation he got tortured for 40 years obviously he’s getting to use his nuke lazar
@chauncietyrell2204
@chauncietyrell2204 Жыл бұрын
@@Sub4AWillToLiveyes because butcher betrayed him and back out of the deal
@SuperSnaketooth
@SuperSnaketooth Жыл бұрын
@@chauncietyrell2204he made a deal with his wife first to look after Ryan no matter what. So butcher has to honor that deal before anything else
@tomatosage5038
@tomatosage5038 8 ай бұрын
The biggest reason for everyone's love for Soldier Boy is definitely how charismatic Jensen is. I'm not sure we would love him as much if Jensen hadn't played the part.
@youguysaretherealheroes.
@youguysaretherealheroes. 3 ай бұрын
what if brad pitt played soldier boy?
@Philippos0-e3v
@Philippos0-e3v 2 ай бұрын
Yes but the character is also masculine and cool so that helped too so is not just Jensen
@vernicegirl8987
@vernicegirl8987 Жыл бұрын
It’s funny how ppl say he likes older women…. When in reality he likes women his age. He’s probably older than the “older” women mentioned but he just doesn’t age.
@prouddegenerates9056
@prouddegenerates9056 Жыл бұрын
Maybe, but how do we account for the trapped stasis time?
@brookswilliams5239
@brookswilliams5239 Жыл бұрын
​@prouddegenerates9056 I personally would go by birth year, (time someone was imprisoned or trapped in a block of ice lol or suspended animation is just tacked on)
@Bladezeromus
@Bladezeromus Жыл бұрын
​@@prouddegenerates9056 Easy. You don't because he wasn't in stasis. Soldier was in a medically induced coma due to chemicals. They didn't do anything to slow his aging. If Soldier Boy could die from aging they wouldn't have even plotted to get rid of him.
@cheesehands3112
@cheesehands3112 Жыл бұрын
@@Bladezeromus This. The Legend even made a comment about him being in his 60s but playing opposite someone in their teens. People don't get, he wasn't frozen, he was in a coma.
@leonake4194
@leonake4194 Жыл бұрын
It does not count for much, he was captured in the 80's, so he was young way after he should be old as a WW2 vet
@lorbo4638
@lorbo4638 Жыл бұрын
Soldier Boy literally appears in GEN V for a minute, makes the best cameo possible, mocks all the main supes, and then just gets smoked by a lightning, absolutely goated
@idknils2920
@idknils2920 Жыл бұрын
"Knock knock" "Go fuck your face"
@Jenny-vm3yu
@Jenny-vm3yu Жыл бұрын
That was the funniest scene in the entire series
@tennesseeheckler3014
@tennesseeheckler3014 Жыл бұрын
"Knock knock. Who's there? Go fuck your face." That floored me. 😂
@FluffBear01
@FluffBear01 Жыл бұрын
That was a popped blood vessel.😅
@RudeAndObscene
@RudeAndObscene Жыл бұрын
> Appears of nowhere > Roasts everyone > Dies Soldier Boy.
@turnleft8645
@turnleft8645 Жыл бұрын
"*Buddy, you're wearing a cape..."* had me dying for days🤣
@dhrutikpatel1929
@dhrutikpatel1929 6 ай бұрын
😂😂
@troooooper100
@troooooper100 6 ай бұрын
also gargle on my balls
@jeepamir508
@jeepamir508 5 ай бұрын
Probably the best line in the whole season (Well, only rivaled by "You're a f.cking disappointment")
@drsparkles8353
@drsparkles8353 Жыл бұрын
Soldier boy has an extremely complicated story. He’s in a world of selfish superheroes who only care about fame but there’s a part of him that actually cares more. When butcher offered him a deal he took it without intention of betraying him and there even are a couple scenes with him reflecting on his past in a regretful manner. Soldier boy is not a good person by any means but in the world of vought he has a somewhat redeemable character in comparison to other characters
@iansantiago7545
@iansantiago7545 Жыл бұрын
"you took a shortcut" A child seeking approval from a father that never cared. Learned he didn't need anyone's approval to live, so he'd just do whatever he wanted no matter what. Opposite to Homelander that seeks approval desperately
@thekingofnothing8895
@thekingofnothing8895 Жыл бұрын
​@@iansantiago7545really interesting that he told Homelander he was a fucking disappointment, since Soldier Boy now feels how his father did
@test_account939
@test_account939 Жыл бұрын
@@thekingofnothing8895 did he call homelander a disappointment because he was worse than soldier boy?
@pickchickens5286
@pickchickens5286 Жыл бұрын
I dont think the "world of selfish superheroes" justify his actions since he was one of the first superheroes and also his whole team hated him for being a jerk
@trgyfhgnt3
@trgyfhgnt3 Жыл бұрын
@@pickchickens5286 After he returned from Russia he seemed to regret some of his past actions. Sure he's not perfect, but he's more redeemed than most other characters in the show. It seems his torment had awakened some maturity in him, and changed him for the better, even if it was just a tiny bit. But yeah he was definitely bad before Russia 100%.
@LavaHawk4
@LavaHawk4 Жыл бұрын
A soldier boy spin off would genuinely be one of the best things ever!
@DyamiNogales
@DyamiNogales Жыл бұрын
That’s what I wanted instead of a gen z show. Then a bunch of gen z snowflakes got really hurt. They started asking me. Why do you want a soldier boy show. That generation can’t deal with any ridicule. They’re pathetic
@LavaHawk4
@LavaHawk4 Жыл бұрын
@@DyamiNogales don’t get me wrong I really love gen z so far but I agree that would have been better to have a soldier boy show if only for jensons performance but gen z is still on par with the boys tbh
@marbleracergirl
@marbleracergirl Жыл бұрын
@@DyamiNogalesbro rly be monologing
@MichaelWalker345
@MichaelWalker345 Жыл бұрын
@@DyamiNogalesGen z ain’t bad it’s actually good. The show makes fun constantly of society nowadays much like the boys. I like it as much as I like The Boys
@someguyinazoo
@someguyinazoo Жыл бұрын
​@@DyamiNogalesno the fuck they didn't,but yeah people would hage for Solduer Boy to be the protag
@silent_mushroom
@silent_mushroom Жыл бұрын
I'd rather Homelander lost all his powers instead of having him die. Death is simply too good for him at this point.
@mitollea
@mitollea Жыл бұрын
Yeah, like Ozai's fate in ATLA.
@leonake4194
@leonake4194 Жыл бұрын
That would be a More fitting ending. Homelander Is not only monstrous but also a tragic character that never gets what he wants, not for long at least. So him being left powerless would be the final tragedy, His Powers are literally all he has, the only anchor of His personality, he literally does not have a real name homelander Is al there is to him. If homelander loses His Powers he would be left with nothing while also having the chance to be free but being way to insane to realize that
@SpiderManNoir1929
@SpiderManNoir1929 Жыл бұрын
@@mitollea W reference
@SpiderManNoir1929
@SpiderManNoir1929 Жыл бұрын
@@leonake4194 Homelander's real name is John Gillman
@clottadams5028
@clottadams5028 10 ай бұрын
Homelander didn't ask to be made in a test tube and raised in a lab by evil scientists.
@DogFoxHybrid
@DogFoxHybrid Жыл бұрын
I don't know if he's a villain in the traditional sense - wouldn't that require him to actively work toward achieving an evil goal? He's not entirely amoral either, he just has a twisted sense of right and wrong. I guess he's more a force of nature than anything.
@BlankestKnight
@BlankestKnight Жыл бұрын
I would say he's more of an anti-hero like the Punisher.
@bohemianharpsicord4294
@bohemianharpsicord4294 Жыл бұрын
​@kalzoa22 he's definitely way more of a villain than the punisher. Frank Castle has a real honor code that he follows and never harms civilians. Soldier boy molested his side kick and was out right abusive to his team members to the point they were happy to turn him over to the russians.
@k-baye6292
@k-baye6292 Жыл бұрын
You can be a villain by doing evil things for a "good" reason like Light Yagami even if his intentions are (at least at first) for a supposedly good reason. and a hero can do good things but ultimately do them to serve their own ego. so from that perspective you could argue that Homelander is a good guy because he typically does good things but purely for his ego but he's really a terrible person whereas someone like Frenchie is a criminal for sure and is viewed as a terrorist but is really deep down a good dude with a kind heart.
@Dickinthesenutzs27
@Dickinthesenutzs27 Жыл бұрын
​​@@bohemianharpsicord4294Soldier boy didnt molest Gunpoweder as Jensen didnt want to film any of the SA and was confirmed to be false as none of the scenes were deleted or in the scenes since it wasnt filmed in the 1st place. And considering his place in abusive tendencies, it was rather physical and not sexual to Gunpowder. Although your point still stands
@TheScarletSlayer
@TheScarletSlayer Жыл бұрын
​@@BlankestKnightidk, more like an anti villain. A bad guy who sometimes does good things.
@Infernal460
@Infernal460 Жыл бұрын
Soldier Boy - The only one who did his job.
@michelvanderlinden8363
@michelvanderlinden8363 Жыл бұрын
I never really considered Soldier Boy a villain. I'd say he is more "a lingering threat". But what have see seen him do? Follow orders (morally questionable or outright evil, sure, but he's a soldier), lie, be a narcissist, an asshole, and engage in debauchery like drugs, sex, booze, and rock and roll. We never see him actually have evil schemes. We never see him purposely injure, or kill people just for the sake of doing it or because he feels like it. The times he explodes and kills a lot of people are literally because of either PTSD or because he's triggered by a russian tune of sorts. Hell, the one time we actually see him injure someone on purpose because he wants to is when he pushes Ryan... who he already knows of has super powers by that time. And when he fights Butcher you could argue its either self-defense or because he's triggered over yet ANOTHER betrayal when he's just doing what he was asked to do. Homelander is, by and far, still the second biggest villain in the show, with the nr1 spot belonging to the Vought coorporation. Soldier Boy has lied to himself so much he sees himself as a hero. Of course, should he return for season 4 or after... the question is what remains of his mindset. Because while I dont consider him a villain, he's definitely walking around the darker gray area of "morally gray". *edit* Minor correction: We obviously see him abuse the living hell out of Noir, I forgot about that when I wrote this. So Ryan isnt the "only" one he hurt because he could.
@Drawing4Justice
@Drawing4Justice Жыл бұрын
We did see him do that. He bullied black Noir.
@michelvanderlinden8363
@michelvanderlinden8363 Жыл бұрын
@victornieves1794 he's irresponsible and narcissistic, as I said. And Id never claim he was a good guy. But this doesnt make him outright evil. Not in the way that Stormfront was, or Homelander, or Vought as a whole
@acrazysheepdog1555
@acrazysheepdog1555 Жыл бұрын
He also brutally killed Mindstorm who was defenseless. Yes MS was involved in his capture, but they wouldn’t have betrayed him if he wasn’t such a terrible person towards them. It all circles back to him.
@Devakiinable
@Devakiinable Жыл бұрын
Almost all supes use excessive force and reckless behavior. @victornieves1794
@Devakiinable
@Devakiinable Жыл бұрын
but I mean it was NORMAL to be a racist pos back then@@Drawing4Justice
@vinadantanimos4764
@vinadantanimos4764 Жыл бұрын
Soldier Boy is the "Negan" style anti-hero/anti-villain. There are many characters that are written this way, like Stannis from ASOIAF with his strict view of justice. Neither of them likes killing people, but it's their duty to do things "right" or bring justice in their own worlds.
@burdenofbest
@burdenofbest Жыл бұрын
I can actually see the similarities he has with Negan and I’ve never even thought of how similar the characters actually are when it comes to morals.
@loaflad
@loaflad Жыл бұрын
That's a fitting comparison
@k-kashsuccafree7185
@k-kashsuccafree7185 Жыл бұрын
@@burdenofbestThey both disfigure/burn their “comrades”(Dwight,Black Noir)😮‍💨
@pharaohj2130
@pharaohj2130 Жыл бұрын
Exactly what I was thinking as well. Darth Vader would also fit the trope as he becomes the hero in Return of the Jedi in protection of his son despite being the onscreen villain for most of Star Wars. It became Darth Vader vs Darth Sidious (Vader's master and true villain of the story). However, @burdenofbest brought up some great points that are specific to Soldier Boy. It's like the more fleshed out Soldier Boy became, the more we understood about characters who were seen as villains/anti-heroes throughout the story, namely Black Noir (who I ended up LOVING due to Soldier Boy being more fleshed out), Homelander, and even Billy Butcher. That aspect of Soldier Boy does lend credit to him being the Big Bad Wolf or Big Bad Eagle in his sense yet he felt so much more human than his villainous/Anti Hero counterparts. Like @burdenofbest said, I agree that we can credit this to the brilliance of Jensen Ackles as an actor, as well as Eric Kripke as a director! They made Soldier Boy not only come to life but made the otherwise "dead" characters come to life too through Soldier Boy's persona. I loved season 3 of The Boys the most for that reason!
@kevinb5417
@kevinb5417 Жыл бұрын
If you're talking about the comics especially, saying that Negan doesn't like killing people is a huge reach. He clearly takes pleasure in beating peoples' skulls to a pulp, and even seems gratified when he cuts off Alpha's head. Negan is absolutely a violent sadist.
@AWolf-gq2vu
@AWolf-gq2vu Жыл бұрын
Ackles’ ability to make Soldier Boy likeable and make it seem like he genuinely believes in what he’s doing is what makes me wish we could get a live action adaptation of Metal Gear Solid: Peace Walker with him as Big Boss.
@doubleupload5620
@doubleupload5620 Жыл бұрын
The thing that makes the boys great is that most people are the “bad guy” very few people are good. We view butcher as one of the good guys but he is a bad guy
@burdenofbest
@burdenofbest Жыл бұрын
I agree the only ones I would say are actually good is Hughie and Starlight but even they have done questionable things.
@Blanke-i3h
@Blanke-i3h Жыл бұрын
I think only Homelander and Neuman are evil, the rest are just bad you can say. Stormfront was evil too but she's deceased.
@Trojanpige
@Trojanpige Жыл бұрын
That's what makes these characters more 'human'. Because, let's be honest, we all have done questionable shit for our own benefits. And Monsieur Charcutier just want to kill Homelander for revenge.
@its_biles
@its_biles Жыл бұрын
​@@Blanke-i3h what about stormfront?
@CharlieNoodles
@CharlieNoodles Жыл бұрын
People really should read the comics as well. The tv series is completely different to the books, which isn’t a bad thing, but it lessens the impact of certain characters. In the book Homelander is the main antagonist but by the end we realise he’s just a malignant narcissist with the emotional maturity of a teenager. What makes him dangerous is he also has the power to destroy cities. But Butcher is the true villain. Butcher is a complete psychopath, and while it was something of an open secret in the book you secretly hoped that he wasn’t the thing he clearly was.
@goobyaluob
@goobyaluob Жыл бұрын
I enjoyed that you said “Soldier Boy is likable and you root for him, but he is definitely not a good guy.” That basically describes every character in The Boys. Everyone gets their hands dirty at some point and it’s simply the way of this world.
@kapitan19969838
@kapitan19969838 3 ай бұрын
Hughie? Starlight?
@diedrickriner5037
@diedrickriner5037 Жыл бұрын
Homelander is the absolute antithesis of a hero. Nothing he does is heroic in anything more than a surface level, and he barely even manages that the vast majority of the time. The idea that anyone could think that Homelander is anything Less than a GLARINGLY OBVIOUS VILLAIN is depressing beyond words.
@joaquinwaters1810
@joaquinwaters1810 Жыл бұрын
100%. He’s one of the most evil characters in TV history.
@daniel_o2065
@daniel_o2065 Жыл бұрын
Exactly I dunno know what this guy is saying
@paleospino4956
@paleospino4956 Жыл бұрын
Exactly, he’s probably one of the most pure evil characters I have seen.
@MrSwccguy
@MrSwccguy Жыл бұрын
No he's definitely a villain
@aetriandimitri190
@aetriandimitri190 Жыл бұрын
Yeah sadly those people do exist. Saw people trying to claim he's an anti hero because despite being an asshole he's A TRUE AMERICAN.
@FuriousMaximum
@FuriousMaximum Жыл бұрын
It's been mentioned but, Soldier Boy actually felt remorse for the people that got killed when he freaked and blew up that building. Homelander seems to be almost incapable of remorse.
@atanaZion
@atanaZion Жыл бұрын
He never said he felt remorse, he just didn't want to be the "bad guy" He never shows remorses for the ppl he killed willing when obeying orders, such as civil rights supporters, or when MM faces him his first reaction is simply to mock MM's grieve
@clottadams5028
@clottadams5028 10 ай бұрын
To these supes, people must seem like ants.
@Shane-un8pe
@Shane-un8pe 9 ай бұрын
People really forget that Soldier Boy beat Noir until he was mute. He sexually abused Gunpowder. Crimson Countess hated him so much she sold him out to the Russians. Instead of reflecting on his horrific treatment of those people and growing as a person, he set out to murder them the first opportunity he got. He is a horrific person. We like him because he's cool, but he is absolutely a remorseless murderer.
@chandlerburse
@chandlerburse 6 ай бұрын
@@Shane-un8pepretty sure gunpowder confirmed he never abused him and that was just Butcher trying to rile Gunpowder up and figure out what happened Gunpowder wasn’t even apart of the group that betrayed Homelander i think
@chandlerburse
@chandlerburse 6 ай бұрын
@@Shane-un8peoh wait its you again the dude who insists on bs that isn’t confirmed
@jcnom6606
@jcnom6606 Жыл бұрын
Soldier Boy is ridding the world of what he perceives to be "another him", it's pretty heroic when you look at it that way
@nickchavez720
@nickchavez720 7 ай бұрын
He's the most heroic person in the show. He was willing to kill his only relatives because he understands how dangerous they really are. He clearly doesn't want to do it, he will do it because he is the only one capable of it and because he is the father of Homlander and grandfather of Ryan he sees it as his responsibility. It's nothing personal. But this is now war. It's do or die.
@dominocut2963
@dominocut2963 3 ай бұрын
@@nickchavez720 Nah, the most heroic person in the show is probably Hughie
@junbafiles5316
@junbafiles5316 Жыл бұрын
It also helps that the boys has in my opinion the best casting in TV history it’s like every actor /actress can slip into their role in this show effortlessly like the characters where tailer made for each of them it’s downright impressive
@germanb90
@germanb90 Жыл бұрын
In my opinion, the main difference between Soldier Boy and Homelander, is that Homelander is, at the worse scenario, a psychopath who enjoys hurting people and at best a guy suffering from multiple personalities disorder (based on the mirror scene), one of them being a sadistic killer. On the other side, Soldier boy even as douchy as he is, is more of a deeply traumatized person with an anger problem, he does not get off of hurting someone. They're both pretty bad, but Homelander seems a bit worse to me. Maybe Ryan is the key to all of this... by making Homelander feel truly loved and cared by someone, his psychopathic personality ends up suppressed. Idk maybe I'm just really naive believing a redemption arc is actually possible lol.
@Sol-Butkis
@Sol-Butkis Жыл бұрын
His mirror scene reminded me of smeagle talking to the Lake in 2 towers lotr. Would be interesting to see a redemption arc.
@louisbizarrogotico
@louisbizarrogotico Жыл бұрын
A redemption arc would really feel underwhelming imo given all the shit they went through because of him
@enigma372
@enigma372 Жыл бұрын
No homelander has to die, a redemption arc would be a letdown and kill the show.. (negan all over again)
@FrancisR420
@FrancisR420 Жыл бұрын
​​@victornieves1794what if he eviscerates himself to stop a genocide? Like hypothetically
@Blanke-i3h
@Blanke-i3h Жыл бұрын
Ryan becoming a villain is more likely
@MrRed_2205
@MrRed_2205 Жыл бұрын
The ending to season 3 was incredibly frustrating, because to me, the turning against soldier boy just came out of nowhere
@BlazingOwnager
@BlazingOwnager Жыл бұрын
Not to mention Homelander is a threat to the entire world, and Soldier Boy is just an unstable threat to a few buildings that could maybe be fixed. He doesn't *want* to keep exploding. Homelander's not enemy #1 because he's a jerk, it's because he's a flying WMD with a screw loose.
@rojaerobinson8324
@rojaerobinson8324 Жыл бұрын
Man basically made me punching air when my favourite and most level headed character (MM) doing and saying stupid shit. I understand why butcher and Maeve did what they did but everybody else especially Starlight, like where was that energy with Victoria and Homelander?
@blacky8987
@blacky8987 Жыл бұрын
@@rojaerobinson8324 facts mm should know that soldier boi is not a hadcore racist mf is just a white man that was born in a time where white men and black men where enemys but not all the white men in that time hate black men. people need to stop that bullshlt
@GalCon99
@GalCon99 Жыл бұрын
The betrayal makes no sense. Soldier Boy's power to de-supe is not instant. Butcher KNOWS this. The Female's injuries sustained during her first confrontation with Soldier Boy were sustained by being pelted by rebar. The seconds before that she got blasted by an explosion and thrown through a concrete wall yet none of that left any visible damage. The wound from the rebar is still there when her powers disappear however which is why those are the only ones that don't heal. Also after the two betrayals Maeve survives falling from Vought tower despite getting de-suped halfway through, confirming that SB's powers take a few seconds at least to take effect. That means that even if Ryan had been caught in SB's blast, the invincibility he inherited from his father would last long enough to protect him from the blast. Again, Butch KNEW this when he betrayed Soldier Boy.
@atanaZion
@atanaZion Жыл бұрын
Bro is so media iliterate that he couldn't see it since day 1 Prob you didn't foresaw that SOldier Boy himself would be the weapon
@codydagg2259
@codydagg2259 Жыл бұрын
As a veteran and knowing many fellow veterans, I did love his character. I used to think turning neurotic as a veteran was something that was exaggerated but after enough time out of the military and seeing people still in, I feel such a path usually happens with a slow decline, when one is trained to destroy and suddenly you are asked to find peace instead, well.. That can be a profound journey or it can be an absolutely unhinged joyride. Because I like that they could show how messed up he was. Picks up a grenade and huffs it, then remarking what kind of lethal gas it is? Sheesh. 👀
@ShellShock794
@ShellShock794 5 ай бұрын
I was SHOCKED to find out that Soldier Boy was only in 4 episodes of season 3. He was so good and stole the show so much that I fully believed he had the most screen time out of anyone
@BabyBearRudy
@BabyBearRudy Жыл бұрын
It’s funny that Soldier boy was based on an old school hyper chauvinistic male and every one loves him
@KICK839
@KICK839 6 ай бұрын
Maybe because there's a lack of character like this so people were just so fascinated to see something fresh Well obviously no normal person will justify his muder or bullying of his own team mate and stuff like that
@alexendless6371
@alexendless6371 Жыл бұрын
Bro Soldier Boy is the absolute goat of the show. His deal with Butcher is dishonored for little to no reason. The writers had to make up a reason for The Boys to hate him. He got jumped by a V Amped Billy, The Boys and Homelander and was dishing out smoke like a dude that smokes 3 packs of cigarettes a day.
@Jenna-in4br
@Jenna-in4br Жыл бұрын
Make up a reason? He killed on of the main charectors dad, he beat the shit out of his old crew and is a cruel horrible person. The only differnce between him and home lander is home lander knows what hes doing is "wrong"
@segismundosaulalex3065
@segismundosaulalex3065 Жыл бұрын
​@@Jenna-in4br And yet homelander takes a guilty pleasure on doing what he considers is "wrong" Your point?
@Jenna-in4br
@Jenna-in4br Жыл бұрын
@@segismundosaulalex3065 i put it in brackets because he takes pleasure in it, hes a manipulative violent asshole too but in a differnt way. Im not sure what youre trying to argue against
@clottadams5028
@clottadams5028 10 ай бұрын
Best season, so far. I hope they do a spin off prequel focused 100% on Soldier Boy.
@storysurgeon5922
@storysurgeon5922 6 ай бұрын
@@Jenna-in4br No. The difference is Homelander is far FAR worse
@kevind3974
@kevind3974 Жыл бұрын
He’s an anti villain That’s what makes him so good He’s a cherictor type that is near impossible to do but when you get it you got gold
@nukal4338
@nukal4338 Жыл бұрын
He is no where close to an anti villain that would require him to do some good besides killing and putting others around him down
@timevalentime1806
@timevalentime1806 Жыл бұрын
​@@nukal4338 he said anti villain not anti hero
@millionshadesofdarkness2165
@millionshadesofdarkness2165 Жыл бұрын
​@@nukal4338read bro😂
@nukal4338
@nukal4338 Жыл бұрын
@@timevalentime1806 it was a type I meant he isn’t a anti villain either look up what anti villain means
@nukal4338
@nukal4338 Жыл бұрын
@@millionshadesofdarkness2165 typo on my end try reading about what a anti villain is
@zachary9767
@zachary9767 Жыл бұрын
People saying soldier boy doesnt "like" hurting people, but from how everyone in payback talks about him and from what we saw in yhe black noir flashback, i think its safe to presume that soldier boy is (in the most charitable light) just a bully plain and simple. He enjoys putting others down, whether it be physical abuse or verbally. Though that doesnt make him much better than say butcher or homelander. Atleast thats just my read on the character
@JarmamStuff
@JarmamStuff Жыл бұрын
Everyone in Payback is also shown to be a complete asshat who cares for nothing but themselves
@SnagTheRabbit
@SnagTheRabbit Жыл бұрын
Soldier Boy is def NOT a good guy. But he isn't a "villain" in a traditional sense either. He totally honered the deal he made with Butcher, and was fully commited to killing Homelander even after finding out he was his son. It was Butcher who betrayed him and went mad dog after Soldier Boy defended himself from Ryan. It was prob the most frustrating part of the whole series for me. Watching Butcher and the rest of the gang throw away the entire plan, just cause Ryan got knocked back a little. (Ryan, who is also a supe, and can heal instantly from his injuries mind you.) And seeing Butcher team up with the guy who assaulted his wife and caused all this just put a pit in my stomach. It felt so gross. This isn't a "dad team up moment," but it feels like they tried to sell it that way. And Soldier Boy just gets betrayed once again.
@eplatamx2017
@eplatamx2017 Жыл бұрын
Homelander is implied to have killed plenty of children before. I never stopped rooting for Solider Boy
@Fugged_Up
@Fugged_Up Жыл бұрын
Implied? Did you forget the plane scene?
@GalCon99
@GalCon99 Жыл бұрын
@@Fugged_Up He kills 2 kids litterally in the first episode.
@clottadams5028
@clottadams5028 10 ай бұрын
But, he hasn't killed all the children, which he could do, so he's not all bad.
@GalCon99
@GalCon99 10 ай бұрын
@@clottadams5028 Found the Israeli
@hands-ongaming7180
@hands-ongaming7180 8 ай бұрын
@@GalCon99😂
@godofw4rf4r33
@godofw4rf4r33 Жыл бұрын
I think it’s cool how he tells the story about how he was a disappointment to his father no matter what he does. Also describes how it hurt him, and when he’s given the chance to be better than his dad, he continues by the cycle of trauma by calling homelander a disappointment.
@manuba_
@manuba_ Жыл бұрын
and he sees himself in homelander too so it's really just projecting that shame he feels onto him
@jamesturpin9091
@jamesturpin9091 Жыл бұрын
Well considering the fact that he was hopeful that homelander was better than him and instead his son, the son he wanted to be proud of, is a complete insecure narcissist that murders innocents while fearing challenges.
@Shane-un8pe
@Shane-un8pe 9 ай бұрын
FINALLY, someone gets it. He didn't care about his deal with Butcher. He just couldn't hold it in anymore when he came face to face with his own son. He acted out his own trauma and played the role of his father by calling Homelander a disappointment. He outwardly project his own self loathing and tried to kill Homelander. I've been calling it a "Surrogate suicide". He saw his own reflection in Homelander, so he tried to destroy it.
@luke0980
@luke0980 4 ай бұрын
​@Shane-un8pe He did care about his deal with Butcher. Butcher fulfilled his end and now SB was gonna do his part. During Herogasm SB saw that Homelander was just a worse version of himself and established that killing Homelander was justified for him outside the confines of his deal with Butcher. SB never let the idea of "family" conflict with his morals. Homelander was not his son because SB did not raise Homelander and because of what Homelander was during S3, SB saw that he had to be put down no matter what because there was no redeeming him, it was too late. That is why he tries to kill Homelander aside from wanting to uphold his end of the deal with Butcher. Considering Ryan, the only thing SB saw of Ryan was him protecting Homelander (A man that had to be killed in his eyes as previously established). SB would not care if Homelander 2.0 died alongside his dad. If neither Homelander or Ryan are alive, then Soldier Boy is the strongest supe. Nobody could oppose Soldier Boy and nobody probably wanted to because Soldier Boy would just retire after his dealings with Butcher.
@gurnoorsekhon6402
@gurnoorsekhon6402 Жыл бұрын
The only problem with using soldier boy more is that he is too strong. He absolutely has no weaknesses and he has a weapon that can kill any supe. Even the laser from Ryan which obliterated stormfront barely even scratched soldier boy.
@leonake4194
@leonake4194 Жыл бұрын
About weaknesses His may very well be a very simple yet ingenious one. You see there's a reasson he cant fly, he also must be heavy as shitt since he Is indestructible and seems to have a lot of poise, and finally he can absolutely be knocked unconsciouss, thats how he stayed for decades wich implies he needs to have oxygen flowing to brain. So you drown him. Thats probably It. Offcourse you wouldnt stand a chance trying in a bathtub or something like that, but drop him in the ocean, make him falla overboard from a ship or something sowewehre he cant swimm back from. He would pass out eventually but unlike in a controlled safe lab he would beggin to decay till he just cant be revived. If they wanted to make His death More "pathetic" possibly a very deep pool wich he cant punch His way out would be enough, thats if hes really that heavy off course, It would be like those mafia executions when they tie blocks of cement to the feet of the victim but with soldier boys biology alone
@its_biles
@its_biles Жыл бұрын
​@@leonake4194i don't know, didn't the russians tried everything to kill him? i don't think Water can kill him
@bigbean2587
@bigbean2587 Жыл бұрын
​@@leonake4194there is no guarantee that he even needs to breathe at this point. I don't believe his body breaks down ATP to produce energy seeing as he has been described as a nuclear reactor. Plus the Russians had to have tried that. They tried everything.
@chandie5298
@chandie5298 Жыл бұрын
Soldier Boy is not as evil as Homelander because Soldier Boy believes he is doing what is right. Homelander doesn't give a shite....Homelander is simply doing whatever he wants at any given moment and doesn't care or consider it in terms of right or wrong.
@BlazingOwnager
@BlazingOwnager Жыл бұрын
Between Soldier Boy and Homelander, the question is completely clear. If not for the emotional thing with Ryan, Butcher understood this too. Homelander: The power and will to wipe city after city off the map intentionally if he gets angry enough. Soldier Boy: While he has an unstable power, it's not nearly on the same scale or intentional (and could be brought under control). He also just wants to bang grandmas, not level the US.
@clottadams5028
@clottadams5028 10 ай бұрын
This is why Homelander isn't all bad, he could easily destroy the whole Earth, but he allows most people to exist, probably because he wants their adoration and to serve him, but at least he lets them live.
@zikaiqwe9887
@zikaiqwe9887 9 ай бұрын
Part of the reason is also that hes controlled by people like Stan@@clottadams5028
@thalasowo3373
@thalasowo3373 6 ай бұрын
​@clottadams5028 Homelander wants to play god. He doesn't actually care other than Ryan (who he is trying to raise through sick and twisted ways).
@BlazingOwnager
@BlazingOwnager 6 ай бұрын
@@thalasowo3373 He'd totally cared about Soldier Boy if not for the 'disappointment.'
@thalasowo3373
@thalasowo3373 6 ай бұрын
@BlazingOwnager I mean Soldier Boy, acknowledges he's screwed up with Homelander being worse. That's why he did not consider the offer of being family. If Homelander is worse than him then how tf would that little family house would be peaceful.
@jakelee5096
@jakelee5096 9 ай бұрын
Preemptively calling it: We already know the show has diverged quite a bit from the comics (Black Noir being one example), since we now know that Soldier Boy is Homelander's father - I'm 98% certain the next big reveal is that Stormfront is Homelander's actual mother. Why? Well the fake story from Vaught is that he's basically superman and was raised the way Clark Kent was. The story they tell Homelander is that he was grown in a tube (which being raised in a lab that'd be easy to believe), but they tell him that for a reason. Because his actual mother is a ex-Nazi, bad PR for "America's Hero". Why I think this.. -The show and comics have huge differences. -Homelander has the combination of soldier boys super strength and endurance PLUS stormfronts ability to fly (without electricity at least). -Vogelbaum is totally unethical like the rest of Vaught, and talks about cross breeding dogs (supes) to express certain traits. -This twist would play perfectly into Homelander's mommy complex, it's horrifically disgusting and ironic that he would be in a relationship with his own mother. -This will be the thing that finally causes Homelander to TRULY snap like he does in the comics, minus Black Noir. Bonus points if Stormfront knew the whole time and did it anyways, lol.
@riley-dv8eu
@riley-dv8eu Жыл бұрын
I feel like what really hits me with him is how we the audience kind of believe in around the first 6 episodes of season 3 that Ben is actually one of the good supes now in present time and every bad thing we hear might have been misguided Like even though it's mentioned that he accidently killed Marvins family it's also stated that he didn't intend to hit them so we ignore that, even though it was stated that he used to beat his sidekicl gunpowder we sort of forget that abd the way he treats Hughie and Butcher like partners unlike the other supes makes us think he's different We hear that he might have fought in different battles like world war 2 and also stated to have genuinely wanted to have a team and genuinely ''loved" Crimson Countess Then come ep 7, and we learn that all those battles he "fought''were just post recorded documentaries or staged photos, we learn and are reminded from Noir that he actually physically abused him and Gunpowder in "training" and even had cancelled Earvings movie deal Then to top it off the way he dealt with the mindstorm situation was even more brutal then how he delt with the other members that you don't even know if he was gonna keep his end of the deal when they're done at all All that! I thibk is what makes him the goat, its because you start to believe that Soldier boy might actually be good until your hit in the face to see that he's not
@hands-ongaming7180
@hands-ongaming7180 8 ай бұрын
That’s why I love soldier boy. He’s also an eddy Murphy fan 😊
@thenightmarefox
@thenightmarefox 5 ай бұрын
One thing about Soldier Boy, he's loyal af. He had a chance to turn on the boys when Homelander brought out Ryan but stayed true to the mission no matter what.
@ghostwriter1440
@ghostwriter1440 Жыл бұрын
Jenson as Soldier boy reminds me quite a bit of Jon Bernthal as Shane/ the Punisher. You know that they are there to cause tension and conflict in the plot but you love to watch their loose cannon tactics
@rustyshackleford3939
@rustyshackleford3939 Жыл бұрын
"women way older than him" ... those women are his age, he just looks young
@efxnews4776
@efxnews4776 Жыл бұрын
Soldier Boy is the main protagonist in his own story, he isn't exactly a bad guy, he didn't lie when he said he didn't kill innocents by choice, and i even argue that Soldier Boy is EXACTLY the hero the world needs at that point, he does understand that not every one his powerful like him, but what he values isn't power, he values moral fiber, you could even tell this that he didn't say anything when he was fighting Butcher, he fought him as an equal, just fought Billy because he was in his path. In other words Soldier Boy cares about principle, he doesn't care about fame and power, different than Homelander who's the only principle he cares is about who lie to him.
@JCglitchmaster
@JCglitchmaster Жыл бұрын
He's not a villain, he's chaotic neutral and a dick. You can't expect someone with those levels of powers to never hurt anybody in collateral damage while they do stuff the same way militaries always end up with collateral damage, but he's not giving 0 fucks about it like Homelander did. Homelander is shown to care about nothing but himself, Soldier boy cares about getting the mission done and that mission is never inherently evil if at all. Soldier Boy for example would never tell somebody to jump off the side of a building.
@roryscott2941
@roryscott2941 Жыл бұрын
As a matter of practicality it's between Homelander who is more powerful and more unstable, is very narcissistic and a touch of megalomania or Soldier Boy who is less powerful but more experienced, is very narcissistic and has explosive PTSD. While an experienced enemy is very dangerous SB is still a fish out of water with no allies, (as far as I know) and he's somewhat reasonable. If not for MM's revenge and Butcher's genocidal tendency SB might have been a useful ally/weapon. Homelander is the bigger threat, kill him first
@armorofgod1430
@armorofgod1430 Жыл бұрын
Soldier Boy bodies Homelander at full power
@reddz7240
@reddz7240 Жыл бұрын
Soldier boy doesn't have shell shock, fuck off
@sinistralhydra
@sinistralhydra Жыл бұрын
The show really wants to paint him as the villain, but he's honestly not that bad. All of his evil acts occurred at least 30 years ago, during which he was being constantly tortured. I think he's earned his room for redemption in that time.
@Itsrainingsomewher-e
@Itsrainingsomewher-e Жыл бұрын
I don't know if he can be redeemed, but I do believe that he is not half as bad as he was back in Payback days. After being tortured for 40 years he is just done with everything, he just wants to get back at the people that betrayed him and to be left alone.
@i10i60
@i10i60 Жыл бұрын
He wasn't tortured while he was doing the evil acts. He was tortured after he got caught in his teammates scheme. He was so unbearable to be with, his own team conspired against him. And how can you be redeemed if you were in a coma until recently?
@danic_c
@danic_c Жыл бұрын
I think he's pretty bad. He's not as much of a psychotic narcissist as Homelander, but he's also a violent sociopath who hurts people at the drop of a hat and will think nothing of killing people
@atanaZion
@atanaZion Жыл бұрын
Bro, every american is a psycopath fr,it seems
@trgyfhgnt3
@trgyfhgnt3 Жыл бұрын
@@i10i60 I think that while he was being tortured, he learned that actions have consequences, and he matured a bit. Still not completely redeemable, but definitely more so than most other supes.
@anaugustvirgo
@anaugustvirgo Жыл бұрын
Jensen is so underrated as an actor, he's one of the main reasons I kept watching Supernatural after so many seasons haha hopefully we do get to see more of this character!
@ricardomiles2957
@ricardomiles2957 Жыл бұрын
You summed up that last fight and thar season pretty well. Throughout the whole season all character have been pretty much acting on convenience and common objectives.
@luisr0987
@luisr0987 5 ай бұрын
Watching this as Butcher becomes the main antagonist at the end of season 4.
@burdenofbest
@burdenofbest 5 ай бұрын
Yeah I really enjoyed the ending can’t wait for season 5.
@Thehoddieguy1
@Thehoddieguy1 5 ай бұрын
The fact that they told all of this is three episodes is insane
@jdrvargo287
@jdrvargo287 Жыл бұрын
Ok, here's the thing, outside of not wanting Ryan to get hurt, I was never on Homelander's side even in that fight.
@lololllo3079
@lololllo3079 Жыл бұрын
Yes. Hey should i care for homelander? Because he wants to raise Ryan to become as f up as he is?
@darkclaw1462
@darkclaw1462 7 ай бұрын
@@lololllo3079 Literally moments before he went back to Ryan, he was lamenting on the dream of having a new batch of genetically superior kids with Maeve, and how they'd be more sublime and "twice as strong as Ryan". It's so see through how easily he throws Ryan under the bus, and that he doesn't really care about him.
@jlinus7251
@jlinus7251 7 ай бұрын
Ngl wouldn't mind if Ryan dies either. He feels like just as much a threat as Homelander
@zukini8763
@zukini8763 4 ай бұрын
​@jlinus7251 You read my mind lol. I feel the same way. I don't like Ryan. Especially after his killed Mallory, who was acting as a guardian to him. Just brutally knocked her against a wall and glanced at her broken body with no remorse. Could have just blasted out of the door and left instead of murdering her.
@helygg8892
@helygg8892 Жыл бұрын
Im rewatching season one and man what a great show i forgot how the tone was in the beginning way less crazy and you can feel the shift as the curtain gets lifted on heros and vought. Especially coupled with generation v, happy to see good writing still exist.
@Platinum199
@Platinum199 6 ай бұрын
That daredevil mention was great, show deserves so much more applause
@basically_boring
@basically_boring 5 ай бұрын
The women Soldier Boy is attracted to are actually similar in age or even younger than him. If my memory is correct, Soldier Boy was born in 1919 and fought in World War 2. The reason he looks so young is because the compound-V he was injected with has halted or at least heavily slowed his aging.
@chrisn8101
@chrisn8101 Жыл бұрын
I didn't see Soldier Boy as a villain. He was no better or worse than anyone else
@burdenofbest
@burdenofbest Жыл бұрын
That’s fair, my main point was that you kinda have to pick a character to root for with The Boys. As much as I like Soldier Boy I like Butcher just a little more.
@atanaZion
@atanaZion Жыл бұрын
Even when he rapes a 13 yrs old?
@fobo3361
@fobo3361 Жыл бұрын
i gotta say with the final battle, they really dropped the ball with consistency when it comes to Billy's character, i understand him stopping solider boy, cuz he made a promise to Becca, ok fine, but to then side with homelander and to try and fight soldier boy is so out of character, Billy should've IMMEDIATLY lasered homelander next, not this almost marvel level bit where they both look at eachother awkwardly, cuz taking on both of em, just cuz he can is wayyy more in line for Butcher, and his character, if anything it'd make way more sense for soldier boy to simply say "what the hell are you doing" and for Butcher to just respond "the boys not part of the deal" and for the two to continue with killing homelander, makes no sense for soldier boy to then proceed to get ganged up on just cuz of ryan being in the way, they've known each other long enough to understand one another's behaviors, Billy should understand that soldier boy is a soldier through and through and simply trying to follow through with the mission THEY agree'd on, they treat it as if Soldier boy gunned for Ryan and they had no choice but to work together, when Ryan was just in the wrong place at the wrong time even weirder why's Billy even care about ryan, he's a "supe freak" in his own words, and could become just as bad as homelander, i get he made a promise, but it still feels so far fetched with who he is to set aside the vendetta he's held for YEARS, all for a kid that aint even his
@manuba_
@manuba_ Жыл бұрын
Billy's character arc probably involves becoming a better father than the one he had (we can see his dad is the reason Billy became this aggressive, reckless and insensitive person) in relation to Ryan, he started off hating him for being a supe, to tolerating him because he promised Becca, to then protecting him at the end of s3. I believe his arc will be complete once he starts seeing Ryan as his own son and caring for him because he's the last piece of Becca there's left and as Becca said "he is a good kid" (we'll see about that next season cuz homelander is not the best influence) so in the end, Billy and Homelander have something in common, which is both genuinely want the best for Ryan, that might explain why their relationship is getting confusing now
@fobo3361
@fobo3361 Жыл бұрын
@@manuba_ nah man, you dont just forgive the guy who single handedly ruined your life by forcefully impregnating the love of your life, having a child with her, and forcing her to be hidden away while you suffer for years on end thinking she's dead Protecting ryan, understandable, he made a promise (would be too easy having the show end like that, tho tbf homelander totally could've just turned around himself idk why it had to be billy) Siding with homelander just cuz he has his own selfish fucked up reasons to protect ryan? doesn't even slightly make sense, maybe for a different character, but not billy, they should've spent wayyyy more time building up his character into a forgiving compassion one if they wanted to have him "forgive" homelander (which i dont think would've been good, billy's best as an asshole, im just saying what they would've had to do for that scene to make sense) if anything they did the opposite having him be at his most destructive and single mindedly focused on getting soldier boy and homelander in the same room, sacrificing his relationship with pretty much all the boys and creating as many enemies as possible to do so, and nowhere did he flinch or second guess himself
@iansantiago7545
@iansantiago7545 Жыл бұрын
Billy was prioritizing Ryan in that moment, he put aside the grudge for a bit because of Becca's memory. Also it's not the first time Billy talks or interacts with Homelander in a less hostile manner.
@jocosesonata
@jocosesonata 5 ай бұрын
Honestly, a three way fight would've been cool. Nobody is an ally, but they have a common target to prioritize, yet would still absolutely punch each other if they get the chance. Like, "Let's kill this fucker for hurting the kid, but I'm gonna take potshots at you every chance I get." It should've been a _Killing Two Birds With One Stone_ scenario for Butcher.
@Diodevito
@Diodevito Жыл бұрын
Soldier boy is a hero. Can't change my mind
@abbyrae5461
@abbyrae5461 Ай бұрын
Ik plus you could see in his eyes at your a fucking disappointment he regreted that in his eyes cuz he cares that's why Jensen ackles is a really good actor
@goobyaluob
@goobyaluob Жыл бұрын
I wouldn’t call him a villain but it’s one of those weird scenarios where our main character has to side with the villain that he’s desperately hunted down because of something he holds dear and his ally becomes his enemy by proxy. I was intimidated by Soldier Boy throughout this season, and I didn’t trust him, but I enjoyed that he stuck to his guns and still sought to kill Homelander, but I enjoyed even more that Billy wouldn’t sacrifice Ryan to get Homelander killed. It frustrated me because I want to see Homelander get his comeuppance once and for all, but it stuck true to Billy’s character and what he holds dear. It was nice to see him do what Soldier Boy was doing and stick to a deal he had made.
@alexman378
@alexman378 Жыл бұрын
4:04 It’s funny because he doesn’t like women who are older than him, those women are around his actual age, he just looks mid-late 30s.
@COMMANDER_FOX
@COMMANDER_FOX 5 ай бұрын
The reason I at least like soldier boy is because everything he says you have to take a step back and think “did he really just say that”
@brooke6472
@brooke6472 4 ай бұрын
3:18 technically not older than him as he has anti-aging powers, she's only older than him physically
@emersonp.machado5258
@emersonp.machado5258 Жыл бұрын
Good narration man, keep it up
@chicao.do.blender
@chicao.do.blender Жыл бұрын
finally a channel that doesnt need to trash talk to point out the good stuff about a series. great video in fact.
@bud389
@bud389 Жыл бұрын
Soldier Boy isn't a villain. Nothing he did in the show constitutes villainous intent. He was rude, a braggart, and definitely pushy, but he was fair, and actively opposed traitors and tyrants. If he were in Greek mythology, he would be considered a hero.
@MrDokkanCovers
@MrDokkanCovers 7 ай бұрын
He threw a car through mms house and when mm said you killed my dad he said which one implying hes killed many dads
@bud389
@bud389 7 ай бұрын
​@@MrDokkanCoversAnd?
@misery4407
@misery4407 7 ай бұрын
Collateral damage; you can’t fight in an urban-suburban area without putting people at risk. That’s why DBZ always fought in wastelands so the hero didn’t cause damage
@bud389
@bud389 7 ай бұрын
@@misery4407 That, and it was easier to draw.
@FLCM
@FLCM 5 ай бұрын
Um.... Didn't he beat up black noir and threatened to k*ll him because he wanted to get a movie deal?
@SandyPole
@SandyPole 5 ай бұрын
truly grateful for this content, it’s exactly what i needed!
@insane7718
@insane7718 11 ай бұрын
Homeblender: i am sigma Soulja boy: i am killer you
@arbuckeye5248
@arbuckeye5248 11 ай бұрын
The boys is like if someone made the mona lisa with a kid in kindergarten's family drawing for reference
@dtczyk8976
@dtczyk8976 Жыл бұрын
I liked soldier boy more than MM. it’s messed up but I really didn’t care about his sad backstory.
@alexman378
@alexman378 Жыл бұрын
I liked MM up until S03, where his IQ dropped by at least 60% suddenly.
@Layer-v5h
@Layer-v5h Жыл бұрын
@@alexman378tbf his friends are using his dads murderer, I’d fuck me up too
@JarmamStuff
@JarmamStuff Жыл бұрын
@@alexman378 Him and Starlight probably smoked some good shit cuz they seemed to have suffered that drop together :/
@richborn6700
@richborn6700 Жыл бұрын
Huey was an insufferable jackass in season three as well
@SuperSaiyanKJ
@SuperSaiyanKJ 6 ай бұрын
​@@alexman378oh don't worry it's worse this season
@OK-yy6qz
@OK-yy6qz Жыл бұрын
Not sure if I'd call Soldier Boy a Villian. Morally speaking he's barely any worse than our protagonists (especially Butcher and honestly maybe even Hughie in Season 3) and he's not even an antagonist he's an ally to them for most of the season. He's helping our protagonists kill Homelander and it's butcher not him that detracts from that goal. That said even if you do consider him a Villian the idea of having multiple villians in the story that are antagonistic to eachother or even a protagonist for a villian is nothing new
@xPogiify
@xPogiify Жыл бұрын
Soldier Boy is an active racist lmao
@OK-yy6qz
@OK-yy6qz Жыл бұрын
@@xPogiify ok and? He was born in the 40s what did you expect?
@xPogiify
@xPogiify Жыл бұрын
@@OK-yy6qz you can't say "morally he's barely worse than the protagonists" when none of the protagonists are bigots, and MM specifically wants to kill him because of how racist he is. how does that not click for you or influence how you see him as a character? being a racist in the 40's or now doesn't make a difference. he's still a horrendously awful person
@OK-yy6qz
@OK-yy6qz Жыл бұрын
@@xPogiify Butcher and the Gang are horrendously awful persons. They kill people,they extort them, they steal,they run from the law. All kinds of things. Now being a racist isn't good by any means but when compared to say murdering a random man to get his car (Butcher and Starlight), capturing a man and torturing him before killing him,murdering/allowing dozens of people to be killed etc. It's really not even bad enough to be relevant
@ishmaelottmam
@ishmaelottmam Жыл бұрын
@@xPogiifywhat did he do that was racist???
@akiraevangelionultimateali5199
@akiraevangelionultimateali5199 2 ай бұрын
1:01 id root for solider boy here
@taniadickson541
@taniadickson541 Жыл бұрын
Soldier boy it’s a villain??? I thought he was the only sane one , the vought Corp are villains , the boys are villains, the 7 seven are villains , soldier boy a true American hero
@nucleor7268
@nucleor7268 11 ай бұрын
If you ignore all the nasty shit he did to his team members, the fact that he was ok with killing a kid and that most of his heroic acts were fake, then yeah. He’s a charismatic character, but he’s not a good person at all.
@reptarcar
@reptarcar 6 ай бұрын
​@@nucleor7268u forget that almost all that "nasty shit" is told via the perspective of other characters, which is kinda the point. U can't be sure of wat's actually true or wat was made up or just misinterpreted. Hell, we learn the most about Soldier Boy from a character that has literal brain damage and hallucinates cartoon characters.
@anonymouslyunknown4811
@anonymouslyunknown4811 Жыл бұрын
I prefer Jensen as Dean Winchester but I do like Soldier Boy
@burdenofbest
@burdenofbest Жыл бұрын
He is great as Dean.
@anonymouslyunknown4811
@anonymouslyunknown4811 Жыл бұрын
@@burdenofbest agreed, I grew up with supernatural honestly it's still my favorite show but man I love The Boys as well
@iamemamae
@iamemamae Жыл бұрын
THE DAREDEVIL APPRECIATION YESSSSSS
@henrymach
@henrymach 11 ай бұрын
Anthony Starr and Jensen Ackles are both spectacular and should be on much more stuff
@bagley3506
@bagley3506 Жыл бұрын
3:37 the way you decide to say "word" like soldier boy kinda cracked me up man
@jollyjumper1767
@jollyjumper1767 Жыл бұрын
i like the subtle music change to the daredevil OST when you talk about the daredevil show.
@sterlingarcher74
@sterlingarcher74 Жыл бұрын
I think Soldier Boy's biggest flaw is that he struggles with being honest with himself. Like Homelander, he's a product. Vought used SB to create a narrative and push an agenda and because of that, he has a bit of a crisis with identity. The main difference is that (prior to S3) Homelander is constantly putting up a front to preserve his own self image, whereas Soldier Boy's front is that of being a tough guy and a hardened warrior.
@jmo1link
@jmo1link 6 ай бұрын
Soldier Boy beat his meat into a cup so Homelander could fly.
@maximilien.p
@maximilien.p Жыл бұрын
Now that soldier boy has made his cameo in gen v i’m curious as to what you thought of it
@burdenofbest
@burdenofbest Жыл бұрын
I actually liked it and I like how it didn’t detract from the episode.
@anasmathlouthy5158
@anasmathlouthy5158 11 ай бұрын
i like the fact that you're using the hotline miami's 24/7 music as the background soundtrack for the video
@elisanchez1938
@elisanchez1938 5 ай бұрын
8:45 It’s pretty funny that he didn’t, but a imaginary version of himself does die, also we actually see him in an end credit scene of season four’s finally.
@burdenofbest
@burdenofbest 5 ай бұрын
Yeah it was a great cameo and I can’t wait to see what they do next with his character.
@trekkienzl2862
@trekkienzl2862 Жыл бұрын
Here's a few bits about Soldier Boy that I've personally noticed from watching Season 3: 1, Soldier Boy is different from Homelander in that Soldier Boy, whilst many of the things he does are evil and whilst he has put innocent people in danger, he believes that the evil things he does are justified because his motivations and his intent is in his point of view "good". That said, you could argue that Soldier Boy has a bit of a distorted sense of good and evil. Homelander on the other hand, knows what he is doing is evil, he knowingly causes harm to innocent people, is unapologetic and he doesn't care that he's evil. 2, Soldier Boy honoured his deal with Butcher even though you could argue that he had good enough reason to back out of that deal. It was Homelander who killed Black Noir for his father Soldier Boy and Soldier Boy clearly wanted a relationship with his son Homelander and his grandson Ryan but opted to remain focused on the mission and opted to finish his part of the deal. Butcher on the other hand had no reason to backout of the deal, let alone essentially save Homelander from Soldier Boy considering what Homelander did to his wife, yet Butcher backstabbed Soldier Boy in the deal Butcher himself made in part due to his concern for ryan. Note: It's understandable why Butcher wanted to protect Ryan but here's the thing, Vought Tower was already largely evacuated of civilians and non-Supes (yeah there were still Vought PMCs in the buiding but do you really care about them) and had Soldier Boy exploded, the other Supes in the building such as Ryan, Homelander, Starlight, Kimiko and Maev wouldn't have necessarily died. Likely they would have been injured but they would have still lived albeit, they would have lost their powers. 3, Soldier Boy was a necessary evil as Homelander was too dangerous to be left alive. The danger Homelander posed was not so much his super strength and laser vision but rather his intelligence, his mobs of fanatic supporters and his overall toxic public influence, in which his very name could cause violence (case in point, Homelander being mentioned at Victoria Neuman's event at Godolkin University caused fighting between pro and anti Homelander students in the auditorium). Soldier Boy was their best bet at doing away with Homelander, yet Butcher sabotaged this. The only redeeming quality Homelander has is that he is a genuinely loving father who does genuinely care for his son Ryan and has shown that he could care for others namely Klara (Stormfront). Other than that, there is no reason why anyone should hesitate in getting rid of Homelander if given the chance.
@nutthavudangku5239
@nutthavudangku5239 Жыл бұрын
The problem is Soldier Boy is too likable and we kinda on his side. but in SS3 climax, they suddenly turn against him and i don't know who should i side with.
@florianp6125
@florianp6125 Жыл бұрын
oh man the daredevil score at 4:56 gave me goosebumps
@justinjohnson6175
@justinjohnson6175 4 ай бұрын
6:03 did not age well lmao
@winterknight4307
@winterknight4307 Жыл бұрын
Solider Boy is definitely interesting and I view him as not a villain but more of the anti-hero, willing to do whatever it takes to complete the mission no matter how many people die in the wake of his war path. Yet, he's also human, flawed and messed up on some levels, but you gotta remember too, he's a soldier too. It's in the name but at the end of the final episode i couldn't help but root for him as well in the fight.
@jamesquinn8558
@jamesquinn8558 Жыл бұрын
It seems everyone is a villain in one way or another in The Boys. It’s one of the reasons I’ve enjoyed Gen V so much as it has characters who are at least trying to be heroic some who started out heroic but circumstances made them villains and still others just going along unconcerned with the question. I think Sam and Kate can potentially be pulled back to the heroic side but Kate is far less likely of the two. Still it’s an interesting analysis of going from childhood idealism to the stark realities of real life…
@scutlyx
@scutlyx Жыл бұрын
awesome vid! i cant even lie hahaha i clicked just because i recognized the thumbnail artstyle
@jaydenbenn3596
@jaydenbenn3596 Жыл бұрын
Please do the best character in every season of breaking bad and better call saul
@burdenofbest
@burdenofbest Жыл бұрын
I shall, someday…
@baconeggcheesepodcast9390
@baconeggcheesepodcast9390 Жыл бұрын
Who do you feel like the best characters are
@MisterSinister47
@MisterSinister47 Жыл бұрын
Soldier Boys own backstory with HIS father really paints a picture on why he is the way his is. Like he's still looking for approval. The words he said to Homelander are the very same words HIS father said to HIM. I think the major theme of the series is about parenting. Mainly fatherhood. All the characters pretty much come from broken abusive upbringings. And it shows in their behaviors.
@akshayde
@akshayde Жыл бұрын
Soldier boy is reckless and brutal. Homelander is too. But Homelander is also sadistic. He enjoys the power trip
@duncanfeyd4056
@duncanfeyd4056 Жыл бұрын
I always liked how in the final battle Soldierboy was like, "I'm not going back in that box!" because it contrasts Jensen as Dean Winchester when his only plan to stop Michael was to get locked in a box.
@chdhawk3867
@chdhawk3867 Жыл бұрын
Literally me
@Nitzah
@Nitzah 6 ай бұрын
I think what works the best is that you get both an understanding of the villains while also not shoehorning in some sort of redemption. So you get how the characters get to the place they’re at but also not leaving room to excuse or forgive them because they still have caused harm
@boringboi3092
@boringboi3092 Жыл бұрын
Homelander is not a protagonist, he’s just the antagonist, definitely nothing close to Walter white or Tony soprano
@rfcfanj7911
@rfcfanj7911 Жыл бұрын
Yeah it like thanos in infinity war he was the main focus but not the hero
@davidponder1654
@davidponder1654 6 ай бұрын
Soldier boy seems like a good example of the best case scenario in a world of supervillains
@squoblat
@squoblat Жыл бұрын
If daredevil is the best season of TV you've ever watched, you really need to watch the first season of true detective.
@burdenofbest
@burdenofbest Жыл бұрын
Check my channel, there you will find the answer you are looking for. 😉
@kingofsomething3250
@kingofsomething3250 4 ай бұрын
"flick that bean, diddle that skittle" -Soldier Boy
@vaughanringer492
@vaughanringer492 Жыл бұрын
Call me evil but I was rooting for soldier boy to walk through Ryan to get to homelander
@roythousand13
@roythousand13 Жыл бұрын
Soldier Boy needs his own spin-off show!
@halolasomaster3900
@halolasomaster3900 10 ай бұрын
This shows villans are great you want to hate them but you understand them.
@RealRed01
@RealRed01 Жыл бұрын
Soldier boy is definitely lesser of two evils. Butcher is even evil, but lesser of two evils with Soldier boy. When he told Homelander how he was "a fucking disappointment" I love the projecting he's doing in that scene. We'll definitely get a scene of Homelander killing him If I had to say by the next season. I'm wondering how Ryan will react to his grandfather being killed... will he still side with Homelander.
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