Why some people can eat dairy, and others REALLY can't (PODCAST E36)

[@aragusea]

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[@Homer-OJ-Simpson]

Adam, about your age and had a similar experience. I was perfectly fine with milk and would drink maybe a cup every other day usually with a nighttime peanut butter sandwich or cereal. Then about two years ago I seemed to be going to the bathroom maybe 4-5 times a day. Not quite a solid bowel movement. Didn’t think anything about it because my stomach didn’t hurt and the symptoms came about slowly. But 9 months talked to my doctor and he said I became lactose intolerant. But sometime over the last 6 months started drinking milk again and my symptoms are considerably less than they were before. You mentioned that some people seem to handle whole milk better. I’m not sure when I switched to it but I began drinking whole milk instead of 2% in the past year. Maybe that was a factor? Or maybe it’s just an intermittent problem because I may have dealt with the same problems a few years ago as well. Either way, it’s tolerable for me with the only problem is the inconvenience of having to go to the bathroom maybe 2-3 times more in a day on SOME days. Probably like the Tibetans. I’m also Mexican (-American) with maybe 20% indigenous and the rest I assume Spanish. Spain has a lot of Germanic people history which is probably why most of my family is okay with milk because we are likely 80% Spanish ancestry.

[@chadmann2724]

My disdain for lactose comes and goes… particularly when the milk is at it’s “best by” date if that’s any lead…

[@Homer-OJ-Simpson]

@@chadmann2724 are you referring to the taste of Milk or how your stomach handles it? I can’t drink milk when it’s near the expectation date because if starts smelling funny and i get flashbacks to when I was a kid and drank some spoiled milk. But I haven’t noticed if my stomach is bothered more by milk near an expiration date.

[@chadmann2724]

@@Homer-OJ-Simpson not flavor but digestion

[@TheRealTiburon]

#notanAD right after telling us their product gave him bad diarrhea... I'm sure they're glad you cleared that up 😅

[@hkandm4s23]

I'm German English and native American..... I'm completely lactose intolerant unless I'm pregnant. With both my kids the second I got pregnant my body made lactase again. Crazy stuff

[@hellfiresiayan]

I'm half Irish / Native. My sister had the exact same thing, could have lots of dairy until after her second pregnancy when she lost it! You make me wonder if she should try dairy again now that she's gone through an additional three pregnancies lmao

[@danak9594]

Wow, that's very surprising and intereseting to me.

[@babaghanoush1124]

@@danak9594 you’re none of those things yank

[@aragusea]

Relevant Rambo II quote goes here

[@ambiorixdeseburons4939]

@@danak9594 LOL all of these 1/64 Cherokee Americans ahahahaha

[@kristinretallack8238]

This is the first time I have heard someone explain congenital lactase deficiency. My daughter had CLD, it took months for us to figure out what was wrong with her. I had to take her off breast milk and give her a special formula. And I've been trying to explain her rare form of lactose intolerance for the last 31 years! Most people have never heard of it. So thank you for including this very rare condition in your video.

[@katharinaweber2813]

Same story with my youngest daughter, now 14. It was a nightmare. She was in so much pain. Doctors did not know the fact that there is a rare conditition when breast milk is poison for a baby.

[@kristinretallack8238]

@@katharinaweber2813 yes, it was horrible watching her cry and scrunch up her legs in pain after every feed. But everyone, including doctors, kept telling me it was "just colic". It wasn't until she past the age where colic usually goes away (about 4 months old) that the doctor even considered that it might be something else and sent us to a pediatrician. And then it took another 4 or 5 months for him to figure it out. Meanwhile my baby was in pain and I couldn't help her.

[@samwinter9749]

I'd never heard of it either. And I think I had it! Just based on stories from my parents and my dad complaining how the formula smelled really bad to him. But that weirdo just drinks straight up milk! Like a criminal!

[@katharinaweber2813]

@@kristinretallack8238 Maybe it is hereditary. My mother in law told me that my husband survived on goat yoghurt with water because (maybe) of the same problem 1960 in Bulgaria. There was no doctor involved and no diagnosis. The worst thing with our childs experience was the cluelessness of the pediatricians. Month of diarrhea.23 times i counted in 24 hours. She was dehydrated, in constant pain and there was no help from the experts. We experimented ourselves and changed to soy based formula. This helped instantly. Then we did the research and understood...

[@fwizzybee42]

I went through a “bout” of lactose intolerance in college. At the time I thought it was just my lactase going away now that I was fully entering adulthood, but these days I blame it on the fact that I had to take multiple courses of antibiotics and steroids for a peritonsilar abscess that eventually had to be removed surgically. I think my microbiome was reaaaaallly off.

[@dianapennepacker6854]

I think I just met a guy who had something similar. Some disease. He felt like he was dying but was in the military but some old doctor finally figured out what was wrong. Edit NM it was gluten. He became allergic to it. Forgot what or why it manifested so late but he is VERY allergic to it.

[@nygreenguy]

Similar with me in addition to grad school giving me ibs and having to get gallbladder removed. Amazingly after graduation all my gi issues went away. Amazing what stress can do to you.

[@oldasyouromens]

Oh, I'm not the only one. Lactose intolerance occurred for two years my sophomore and junior year of college coinciding with a horrific bout of gastritis and POTS - kefir reset me, but after a year of consistent drinking and drowning my meusli in the stuff.

[@fwizzybee42]

@@nygreenguy oh stress didn’t do this to me, picking up drug-resistant strep at a frat party did 😅. Stress did give me Graves’ disease in grad school though (or at least that was the best explanation my doctor could give since I had no family history or other risk factors)

[@DrinknStitch]

OhDamn! My apologies to anyone who tried to order a lactose-free meal at The Montague Inn (Saginaw MI) in the 1990s. Chef was trying his hand at making cheese & I used his whey as the liquid in A LOT of the bread. In my defense, it made really good bread!

[@Sue_Me_Too]

I'm an amateur cheeseman myself, I'll have to try using the whey to make bread. That sounds delicious! Usually I stop at the cottage cheese phase, but I've made "Jack Cheese" and "Gouda" [quotation marks because it didn't go very well lmao]

[@catherinemcnamara1141]

I use whey from my paneer-making in my bread - it does help it to rise more, compared to whey-less loaves I've made.

[@ei96byod]

Yeah, whey is like magic for baking. I can strongly recommend it to anyone that has leftover whey. Bake bread with it! I also kind of like drinking it. I think it tastes very good on its own 🙂

[@chezmoi42]

@@Sue_Me_Too Hey, have you discovered Gavin Webber's channel? He's all about cheesemaking! You may really enjoy it. I don't even do it myself, but I enjoy watching his videos, especially the livestreams, where he answers questions and shows pictures sent in by his viewers.

[@Sue_Me_Too]

@@chezmoi42 thanks, I'll check it out.

[@Andrew_Fricken_Smith]

Studied biology when I was in college (recently graduated). After a few projects that happened to be about milk and lactose at the start my education it ended up being a conscious effort to make at least one milk/lactose project a semester ranging from evolutionary, genetic, taxonomy, and microbio perspectives. I only mention this because my first fall/winter season outside of school still has me consuming information about lactose and it's a bit surreal. At a time that I would have been preparing to present or turn in such an assignment no less.

[@szerdrew8034]

Sounds like a good masters or phd thesis if you decide to go back

[@willmcpherson2]

He is... The Milkman

[@dianapennepacker6854]

They need to freaken get phosphorus out of it. I use to think fortified shit was a good thing until my liver and kidneys failed. I can't seemingly win with phosphorus even when I eat very little and take binders. I thought I'd have issues with calcium and phosphorus but NOPE. I usually run too low on both.

[@CSTEnjoyer]

Covid cured me of my lactose intolerance. 2 weeks of constant diarrhea and some probiotics but after that I could eat milk products again. Thank you covid, very cool

[@aleisterlavey9716]

5/5 would recommend

[@faceoctopus4571]

That's interesting. Maybe those probiotics cured the lactose intolerance, and maybe that cure could be given to other people, without the covid.

[@CSTEnjoyer]

@@faceoctopus4571 maybe. My thesis is that covid destroyed the microbiom in my colon and with the help of probiotics my body rebuilt it completely new

[@JKOOLDK]

Damn gg, great play from covid

[@Sambroke]

COVID cured me of my cunt mother in law

[@edgyzero6305]

Would extremely love to see you do a video on homeade yogurt. I got interested in it recently and was surprised by how simple the process was and tried it out. The yogurt turned out fine all though a little syrupy and I'd love to see you potentially try changing different variables in the process to see what outcomes you get.

[@tarzanizcool]

What do you mean syrupy? Also, how long did you ferment it for?

[@artimis9993]

If you add heavy cream or condense milk during the fermentation process (110° F - 115° F), you get a richer taste yogurt.

[@artimis9993]

The yogurt is syrupy or runny because the temperature isnt retain during fermentation. I had this issue during the winter season when the house is a bit colder.

[@Jhud69]

My mom used to make yogurt though take methods of a rural Slavic woman with a grain of salt, could be potentially unsanitary or something. I remember she used to mix milk with powdered milk (not sure why) in a jar and then add some ready made yogurt to get the bacteria going, then she'd wrap the jar in a blanket and leave it in a warm place for a while. Not sure how long exactly. Then probably she'd also add some sugar I imagine since I remember it being a bit sweet but not syrupy. The resulting yogurt would come out very good.

[@steviannaskitchen5562]

I’ve made yogurt a few times at home and had the same problem I recommend straining the yogurt with a cheesecloth overnight or until it reaches your desired texture. The longer you strain you get Greek yogurt eventually and then if you strain extra long you get cream cheese!

[@ei96byod]

In Scandinavia we reduce the whey from cheese making to a thick consistency and call it "mesost" (Sweden) or "brunost" (Norway). That "cheese" ("ost" means "cheese") is very sweet from all the lactose, and is a lactose bomb 😄

[@Jhud69]

Oh yeah it has almost a caramely taste doesn't it?

[@ei96byod]

@@Jhud69 Indeed. I find it delicious. But I can't eat too much of it, or I will feel sick. Just like eating too much candy 😄

[@willmcpherson2]

And brun meaning... brown

[@ei96byod]

@@willmcpherson2 Indeed. And "mes" in the Swedish version of the word comes from the Norwegian word "myse" which means whey. All very logical. Except for the fact it's not really cheese, so the "ost" part is really wrong 🙂 Delicious nevertheless 👍

[@fordhouse8b]

@@ei96byod Growing up, I wasn’t crazy about mesost, except that it makes for a delicious addition to sauces. It brings a sweet nuttiness that to my mind is a bit reminiscent of the dark roux used in cajun and creole cooking, which I also like. Of course I haven’t actually come across mesost for over 30 years, so my memory might be a bit faulty.

[@notusneo]

"Why some people cant drink milk?" "Skill issue"

[@Sparks00psn]

Weak genes

[@ballboys607]

My GI tract is bronze tier

[@Jhud69]

Some people can die from eating dairy, not really lactose but dairy itself, I think it's some protein intolerance. Pretty wild honestly. Probably the same kind as people with celiacs just a different protein.

[@adamrozman]

Nice

[@camsaffari]

@@Sparks00psn not being mutants

[@Crowald]

It feels like yesterday you started this whole podcast thing. Now it's on episode 36. I love these. You can tell you worked in radio, because you have that really specific inflection of "radio talk host" and it makes putting this on in the background so much easier because that kind of inflection is so different from the Call of Duty or Overwatch announcers or the HADES dialogue or other KZbinr voices that so commonly become homogenous with video game voice-over work.

[@sarahdriedger4386]

I found it really interesting to learn that "lactose-free" milk actually just has lactase added to it to help our bodies digest the lactose. And you can buy lactase supplements at the store.

[@21ruevictorhugo]

I’ve been using lactase, often with the brand name LactAid, and it works perfectly. I take two tablets with the first mouthful of whatever and I’m fine.

[@SLITHERMAN54]

wish this could be a thing for every food allergy and intolerance

[@spartanx9293]

@@SLITHERMAN54 imagine tablets that could fix celiac disease

[@Avendesora]

There's lactose-free milk these days that filters it out instead of adding lactase. The brand name I know is Fairlife, but I'm sure there are others. They don't have that extra sweetness that lactase milks do.

[@willdwyer6782]

I had a childhood allergy to dairy products that I outgrew. My reaction was respiratory and it landed me in the hospital several times with pneumonia and enough congestion to require the surgical insertion of drainage tubes through my eardrums before they correctly diagnosed it. For a little while they thought I had cystic fibrosis.

[@Every_Day_islike_Sunday]

My lactose intolerance hit at 18 months old and landed me in the hospital with severe diarrhea. I remember being in the hospital. I'm 62 now and still can't/won't eat unfermented dairy.

[@jamespritchard5862]

I have the exact same issue. I haven't had as severe a reaction but still have the same kind of symptoms. I cant have any dairy unless I want to ha e trouble sleeping and breathing due to the large amount of mucus it generates in my throat and lungs. Also causes rashes, fun.

[@willdwyer6782]

@@Every_Day_islike_Sunday aged cheeses and red wines are a migraine trigger for one of my uncle's kids on my mom's side. Fresh mozzarella made with vinegar is ok but if it's made with lemon or lime juice it's no good for her. My attempt at taking Prozac 30-odd years ago didn't last long because it performed its chemical function on the first 5-HT receptors it found before it got in my bloodstream while it was in my intestines and it caused painful indigestion and diarrhea, thankfully without any nausea. That was my gut telling me it wasn't going to be good for my mental health so I'd better quit eating it. Your gut knows more about your body than your brain does because it has more more neurons to work with.

[@Every_Day_islike_Sunday]

@@willdwyer6782 interesting. Yeah the tannins in wine and tea get me sometimes, too. And the gut health/mental health connection is real!

[@Every_Day_islike_Sunday]

@@jamespritchard5862 oh man. Aweful. Definitely stay away from food that does that! It's not always easy, i know.

[@itamarschreier]

Just finished listening on the podcast app and had to come by and thank you for one of the greatest pods you've made! Great stuff, keep it up!

[@shreshthmohan]

I am a lactose intolerant north-Indian and I strongly feel the urge to translate this episode to Hindi and send it to all my relatives who constantly try to “fix” my “condition”.

[@MayankJairaj]

Bruuh same

[@andianderson3017]

I’m suuuper Welch and English with dashes of Scottish, Irish, and German. There’s also a history of diary farming in one side of the family. I thought people who were lactose intolerant were making it up or being delicate😂. I cut milk out of my diet once as an experiment-which often causes more sensitivity to milk in people. NOT ME. I felt worse without it and better with. I drank milk like water all though my youth. Stopped that because it turns out it is difficult to maintain good weight with half your calories coming from liquid😬. Still, I live on yogurt and cheese.

[@ScottSherman1]

My 23 year old son is lactose intolerant his whole life so far. I am turning 65 in 6 weeks. I still have milk on cereal, eat cheese and ice cream and have NEVER had an issue. Neither does my other two children (26 and 29) or my wife. Thanks for this video!

[@slXD100]

maybe his microbiome is off, try probiotics

[@supchefofficial]

Adam liking uniform thickness in his cookies defies every thing iv learnt about heterogeneity

[@megisawesome]

This podcast made me realise I have lactose intolerance for the last five years. And I change from drinking from cows milk to soymilk and I don’t get those pains in my stomach any more. So thank you so much.

[@mrsphilm.007]

Great info! Thanks for posting about lactate persistence. Most of the world can’t digest lactose into adulthood, but restaurants in the US are wild about adding butter into EVERYTHING. Dear Lord, it makes so many people sick. Restaurants: If you don’t want a nasty mess in your restrooms, don’t dump dairy into every damn thing you serve in your kitchen. Thank you!

[@shinnam]

Understand completely, my SO can't eat any dairy products. He will tell restaurants and they still give him butter, because the assumption is his allergy is lactose intolerance, Causes his eczema to break out. Have learned to be a lable reader, as so many products have some kind of hidden dairy.

[@aguijohn1321]

I learn so much by just watching your podcasts. SO, so, freaking interesting. And your vinegar/pickled onions episode really changed my life. So delicious.

[@JetstreamGW]

"Lactose intolerance can, apparently, be intermittent..." You can also just acquire it when you get older. My father became lactose intolerant sometime in his 40s I think.

[@hooptiej]

this is me. across my late 30s milk just started agreeing less with me. now(mid40s), cheese pizza means the next day is spent in a close restroom relationship.

[@jhoughjr1]

its might be happening to me now. I have drank milk my whole life every day.

[@CSTEnjoyer]

Happened to me in my teenage years. Now after I got covid, I am cured. I had 2 weeks of terrible diarrhea and I therefore took some probiotics and now I can eat milk products like any normal person. Before just some cream was enough to give me diarrhea

[@JetstreamGW]

@@hooptiej Nearly 40, still not getting it, hopefully won't!

[@mryeetproductions]

nice pfp bro

[@TianaMaher]

My daughter has MS and it was strongly recommended by a doctor who put her own MS in remission to go on a paleo diet without grains and dairy. Findings by a scientist in a podcast called debunking the paleo diet reported finding dairy traces in a very old mummified body. For myself, I have cut out most grains because of bloating but cannot imagine cutting out yogurt, kefir, and cheese. I'm Irish and nordic, my daughter part Germanic. I appreciate and will share this podcast with her so she doesn't have to cut out dairy. Thank you.

[@konrai1972]

My daughter had the CLD I was so glad we had a doc who knew what was going on and got us on a soy formula right away She outgrew it at about 12 months but she went onto a full cream fresh milk that came from our friend's cows. She hasn't had any more problems but we also live in an area(Malaysia) where dairy isn't a huge part of the diet.

[@GiveZeeAChance]

Ah yes, the Gallic side of the family vs. the Garlic side of the family

[@ShotGunner5609]

Spicy comment. HAHAHAHA

[@marcusaurelius4941]

I've always loved drinking milk, but now that I'm 19 and I only recently discovered what lactose intolerance is, I seem to be getting some lactose intolerance symptoms if I'm extremely conscious about them after drinking milk, but when I drink milk and forget just about it then everything is okay, no discomfort. Strange.

[@slXD100]

Try raw milk and milk-products (in case it's not your anxiety). You can experience gut-issues by simply being nervous, anxious, or "triggering" it by thinking about gut-issues, e.g. IBS-anxiety is a real thing. I would recommend you to look it up, and with the same methods that people combat IBS-anxiety with, you'll be able to handle your minor issues with milk.

[@DipsticksOfficial]

That was the most ad-like "not-an-ad" I have ever heard.

[@Rigeth]

I thought I was lactose intolerant through most of my childhood and adult life. I figured out about 3 years ago that I'm just sensative to both Lactose and Gluten, I can eat one or the other; never both the same day.

[@nolongeramused8135]

My ancestry comes from so far north in Europe that I get a sunburn if I even think about sunshine or go outside during a full moon. Dairy is, to me, a daily part of my food and I've never had the slightest problem with it. I have a double cousin, on the other hand, that has "problems" with dairy. I wonder if it's her gut biome, since nobody else in her family has the slightest issue.

[@dianapennepacker6854]

I won't say I'm 100% with lactose, because it doesn't mix well with a lot. Gives me some acid reflex but sometimes I think it's the chocolate I put into it as it also soothing. Milk is high calories and protein. I always wondered how safe natural milk was back before pasteurizing became the normal. Lots of bogus claims are out there on raw milk. People are so bizarre when it comes to food.

[@nolongeramused8135]

@@dianapennepacker6854 Raw milk is mostly safe, but if you aren't turning it into cheese or butter it has a very short shelf life for safe consumption. People in the US are so divorced from where their food comes from that "from the supermarket" is how it's commonly perceived. Nobody wants to confront the reality that it's grown in the dirt using manure as a fertilizer, or that it was walking around crapping on everything shortly before it was turned into prepackaged cuts at the butcher department.

[@dianapennepacker6854]

@@nolongeramused8135 It's why I'm glad my dad's side are like farmers, and my mom's side is city. I had the best of both worlds when it came to it. As for raw milk? I'll drink it if I need to do so but I'm boiling it. Too many pathogens and that's backed by science. I am generalizing but feel corperate farm cows are probably more prone to pathogens due to them shoving as many animals into one space. Or they cut corners BECAUSE they know it will be pasteurized anyway. Over some farmer who really loves their animal. (Some shit farmers out there too.) Lots of wild claims for raw milk out there.

[@rubensonorio8805]

I'm 66 and somehow I became lactose intolerant in 2006 and avoided milk since. But about 2 years ago I was trying to complement my macros and reading about bodybuiders drinking a galon a day😅so I gave it a go 1st with goat milk + lactase then cow milk + lactase and soon I realise I'm just fine drinking milk again😊

[@spartanx9293]

I mean even if you're going through a lactose intolerant phase you can just compensate with lactaid

[@JustOneAsbesto]

I'm a Canadian, and I've known about the AMOC problem for years. The issue with London dropping down to Winnipeg or Calgary temperatures isn't just the cold. It's all the precipitation London gets. And the narrow streets. How do you get rid of all that snow?? You can't plow it. There won't be sidewalks. Peoples' houses would be covered up to 2 stories by the plowed snow. The amount of salt required would cause... a lot of other problems for city infrastructure and the environment. What would be a light snow here, would shut down London and have global financial impacts. Their homes and offices aren't nearly insulated enough to deal with -30 degree temperatures. It's going to be horrific.

[@bordershader]

Random fact: in the archaeological record, if you go back far enough, it's almost impossible to distinguish sheep bones from goat bones, leading to the invention of the "shoat" to describe the bones found 😄

[@lentencraft]

ah yes, when youre early enough so that youtube didnt process the video fully and you can only watch in 360p. nice

[@oldasyouromens]

If you're interested in sucrose intolerance, Jessica Kellgren Fozard, a KZbinr, has a sucrose intolerance among many others and does sugar free/gluten free/dairy free baking videos with her family among many other things. It might be nice to do a pod or video with her!

[@patrickmann6116]

Just found your channel after being referred here for the Teflon video. Very informative. I saw this and just had to click on it. When my daughter was born, there was a scare that she might have Galactosemia (a predominantly Irish DNA thing). Turns out either my wife or I are a carrier and this wasnt something that they tested for when we were born. If we both were carriers, she would have the disorder, and drinking milk would likely kill her inside of a few weeks. Galactosemia is where your body doesnt know what to do with galactose and it just stores it in your cells to the point of organ failure, possibly leading to death. Great channel! Subscribed!

[@jpe1]

Quitting all dairy was the best dietary decision I ever made, all of the joint pain I had been suffering for several years went away with the inflammatory agents from dairy gone. One can be tolerant of lactose but also still be allergic to dairy.

[@N1120A]

Dairy is not inflammatory

[@azcomicgeek]

My whole family developed lactose intolerance at 40 years old. I heard that Jersey cows have a different lactose that doesn't affect people with lactose intolerance but Jersey cow milk is almost impossible to find as the most common are Holstein.

[@Tylervrooman]

Hey Adam! From one musician to another! Thanks for the great videos and podcasts! Really enjoying them!

[@richardg8651]

Lactose pills really work well for me . I ran into a pharmacologist years ago . He recommended a early morning pill with a second one prior to going full on dairy . 👍

[@Coecoebrown]

I love that this comes after a video about a cream based soup

[@davideasterling2729]

Born and raised in Richmond Virginia, and you're right, those ice cream sandwiches are massive, but oh so good! Glad a local business from my home town has found you in Tennessee!

[@leaderence3290]

IT'S SICK THAT HUMANS ARE LITERALLY SEXUALLY ABUSING ANIMALS, MASTURBATING BULLS AND FORCING THEIR SEMEN INTO UNCONSENTING DAIRY COWS TO GET THEM PREGNANT SO THAT THEY WILL START PRODUCING MILK AND THEN STEAL THEIR BABIES FROM THEM AND KILL THEM IF THEY ARE BOYS TO STEAL THEIR BABY FOOD TO SELL IT TO IDIOTS FOR PROFIT.

[@ssupernovae]

Are you related to Sam Easterling?

[@davideasterling2729]

@@ssupernovae yes, how do you know Sam?

[@ssupernovae]

@@davideasterling2729 Went to Governor's School with him. Small world!

[@davideasterling2729]

@@ssupernovae Wow! Definitely a small world. I should be seeing him in a couple of weeks, I'll say hi for you.

[@IMBlakeley]

Sure I read once that there was a link between lactose tolerance and the appearance of blue eyes which makes sense with the light skin vitamin D link. Also ref Scotland and light I dived Scapa Flow in June 2005, it didn't really get proper dark until after well after midnight and was lightening again by 03:00 .

[@alwaysbeingbelle4409]

I found out I was lactose intolerant in H.S. I would have lunch which included milk, and then I’d have the worst stomach pain and bathroom issues until I got home from school. Now as a 40-something I avoid nearly all loose dairy (milk, yogurt, cottage cheese, ice cream etc), but I do fine with a lot of cheeses since they’re low/no lactose.

[@Jhud69]

Yogurt is also low lactose. Lactose is a sugar and most cultured milk products tend to lack it/have very little of it since bacteria just munch on it.

[@camsaffari]

If you're only lactose intolerant, you are almost surely fine with yogurt. My stomach can't even tolerate a spoon of milk but I eat at least 10 ounces of yogurt per day!

[@necrojoe]

I started having a digestion issue. We ruled out lactose intolerance for my specific issue, but noticed I would feel better after consuming "lactose free" dairy products. And once I realized lactose free milk has like a 9 week expiration date, we've just been buying lactose free milk ever since.

[@mariarohmer2374]

Oh wow, that's why my lactose free milk lasts forever. It baffled me. But yeah what a cool plus!

[@SDOtunes]

This is the kind of content I'm here for. It would be super interesting, if you could do a video of the same kind about celiacs disease!

[@Mellcula]

My fathers side is Irish and my mothers side is from south east asia, just recently I've developed lactose intolerence, but only if I'm drinking milk by itself or in a milkshake. I can have it fine in hot chocolate, or other foods where it is `diluted` by the other foods present

[@FeelingAwesome]

Excellent summary of the literature on lactose intolerance. Good job!

[@Zivilin]

Hashtag not an ad, just a fan is my favourite kind of ad. 🙃

[@jakeospades]

Ah Winnipeg.. locally known as "Winterpeg" I always hear of Toronto or Vancouver, but it's always special when someone notices Winnipeg.

[@JustOneAsbesto]

I did a deep dive on pig milk like... 10 years ago. According to my research the issue was to do with the fact that pigs lactate differently than our Bovid friends. If I recall correctly, pigs lactate very rapidly at high pressure, in REALLY FAST squirts (which bothers the machinery in some way), and also their nipples are more like ours, which is makes it more difficult to attach a milking cluster. Cows nipples are pretty easy to attach a cup to. In any case it seemed like a LOT of research and effort had gone into figuring out how to milk pigs commercially, but they couldn't make it economically viable.

[@InspiriumESOO]

Well back to abusing and raping cows.

[@iniyama]

I had no idea you could be cow's milk intolerant, this might explain why my stomach also sometimes acts up with lactose free milk/cheese. gonna ask my doc for more details next time I'm there

[@samarakaplan497]

Hey Adam! I am lactose intolerant and I recommend taking anti-lactose pills before eating anything with dairy in it. I have been since I was nine. have a nice day!

[@sagopalm279]

Hey Adam I made your leek soup and it was awesome. Thanks!

[@moosome]

Top tier Radusea Podcast episode yet! Thank you 😊

[@allanjmcpherson]

It's actually only partially true that a cow will continue to lactate as long as it's being milked. In fact, a cow will only continue to lactate for about 10 months following calving. This is why in the dairy industry, cows are forcibly impregnated about once a year and are separated from their calf shortly after it's born, despite the distress this causes to both the cow and the calf.

[@ezay8694]

Every time I listen to this podcast, Adams sponsor transitions just get smoother and smoother. He can’t keep getting away with this 😭

[@DamnMandi]

This is a prime example why I shouldn't skip your episodes. I saw the title of the video when it came out, but I was like... I've researched a lot about lactose intolerance in the past. Not sure I wanna listen about it again... Well, today, as I looked for my favorite dessert recipes that substitute cow's milk for vegetable milk, this video popped up again. As I cook Christmas dinner, I had to stop when you explained AMOC. You see, I had learnt about the warm currents coming from the Caribbean when I was in Iceland in 2017, and was super curious, but never went deep into it. Now I've got 20 tabs open, and checking water temperature charts for deep and surface currents, global weather patterns, climate change, and..... F**k Christmas dinner might be already burnt. Please send help.

[@noah_hill]

Lost tolerance after i had a drinking binge and was sick for a week and about 3 months after I gained a normal tolerance again.

[@OniDragonSan]

I lost it laughing when you first said “blowing ass”. I’d never heard a person refer to a fart as that before. ROFL

[@cubandarknez]

Oh man, very relevant episode for me. I have always been told that in my early years, some form of lactose intolerance or even allergy was linked to my asthma symptoms. This always threw me for a loop, but just accepted it, but wondering if any of the literature you reviewed mentioned anything related. Additionally, the few times I tried lactase pills later in life, I ended up throwing up after 1H. Thankfully, asthma symptoms went away after toddler years, now I just blow ass.

[@yolandagonzalez2705]

Interesting and informative as hell. But I think the most enjoyable and entertaining pieces of this particular podcast are when you repeat the phrase "Blow Ass." I'm laughing so loud that my family just had to come see what all of the ruckus was about. "Blow Ass." God, I love it.

[@Ryancady010]

A few years ago I would drink red wine fairly regularly. During that time I would experience extremely bad bloating and heartburn whenever I consumed bread or lactose. After stopping my wine drinking, I began to tolerate those types of food much better! My very unscientific hypothesis is that my regular wine consumption disrupted my gut microbiome, making it much more difficult for me to digest those types of food.

[@fredkzk]

This is why camel milk is becoming popular I think. Safe for lactose intolerant people. And one can turn it into milkshakes, ice cream, hot chocolate, Béchamel sauce too.

[@untitled6391]

I stopped drinking milk for a while and then started drinking a lot of it when I started going to the gym. Got lactose intolerance lol. It went away after a while though but my family hated the horrible gas I was producing.

[@JR-pt8oz]

That's a regular occurrence, many people become intolerant if they spend a lot of time without consuming it, but it happens with many food sources, your gut microbiome is adapted to what you usually eat.

[@Jhud69]

Yeah that happens. Theoretically mammals aren't supposed to drink milk after they're done nursing so our body makes us intolerant, but if we keep drinking milk regularly that doesn't happen. Though sometimes babies can be literally born with intolerance and it's almost deadly for them, very scary.

[@leaderence3290]

IT'S SICK THAT HUMANS ARE LITERALLY SEXUALLY ABUSING ANIMALS, MASTURBATING BULLS AND FORCING THEIR SEMEN INTO UNCONSENTING DAIRY COWS TO GET THEM PREGNANT SO THAT THEY WILL START PRODUCING MILK AND THEN STEAL THEIR BABIES FROM THEM AND KILL THEM IF THEY ARE BOYS TO STEAL THEIR BABY FOOD TO SELL IT TO IDIOTS FOR PROFIT.

[@WanderTheNomad]

@@Jhud69 I learned about that in a KZbin video I watched recently

[@slXD100]

@@WanderTheNomad Can I get a link to it? ;)

[@FOREST10PL]

Hi Adam! This podcast really opened my eyes. Here in Poland almost everybody has lactose persistence, but we're not even northern Europe. I just found out, that the cities I lived and live in (Szczecin, Gdynia) are further North than Edmonton Canada! What a perspective

[@razumihin3605]

Also living in Poland, and I've found quite the different experience, a lot of people where I live (very East compared to you) struggle immensely with dairy products, and lactose free milk is easy to find in stores. We are thinking it's some sort of tolerance, seeing as the statistics don't reflect the real situation here at all... But I'm not sure if such a thing exists

[@Phoenixz33]

Currently watching this while destroying the toilet, after drinking some milk earlier. Thanks Adam.

[@originalhgc]

Ahh, lactose. I'm an adult (nearly 60) who loves to drink milk so much, I strictly limit how much I buy. I like it whole, 2%, 1% or skim. But, when I drink Lactaid, it tastes like water to me. Turns out it's the lactose I really like.

[@AnonSFO]

I live north of Seattle so I know what a dark, cold, wet climate is like. We are still waiting for spring here. I'm Irish, English and Scandinavian, and even at 73 still have an occasional glass of milk. No problem. Thousands of years ago, neolithic tribes in Northern Europe began raising cattle. That constant consumption of milk must have done it.

[@Homer-OJ-Simpson]

I’ve recently become lactose intolerant. I’m many many years past high school. It’s not bad and I have no issues with milk in moderation. But if I drink more than a glass of milk, I’m going to have runny bowel movements later. But nigh stomach doesn’t hurt. So it’s not a big deal if it doesn’t get worse. I just love milk and drink maybe a glass every other day either in cereal or with snacks such as cookies or peanut butter sandwich.

[@94Quang]

Can you make or is there an episode where you cover eating before sleep and how it effects us?

[@Veroniquekky]

Ohh yes, great topic. I have a bad habit of eating quite late/close to falling asleep and I wonder about this a lot. Especially how it might affect overall metabolism and weight.

[@shigemorif1066]

Hokkaido is famous for its dairy industry in Japan. I remember drinking the milk as a kid from there when visiting relatives and it was delicious. Can’t do regular milk anymore, but I get my fix from lactose free milk!

[@dianapennepacker6854]

Wish they made low phosphorus milk. They don't and my levels are too high. (Kidney and Liver are stage 4) What sucks is companies fortify their drinks and don't have to list Phosphorus amount so I have literally NO CLUE what to do. My diet restriction is fucking hell. My doctors are like fuck it you're a dead man walking if you don't gain weight to get a transplant but still try to be mindful.

[@slXD100]

@@dianapennepacker6854 so wait, you need to gain weight? why don't you add a lot of fat in your diet? my brother used to add lard, tallow, different nut-butters and such stuff to shakes and meals.. just a bit of pure fat or high-fat foods like nut-butters are enough to bump your calories like crazy. best of luck

[@dianapennepacker6854]

@@slXD100 Yeah but it isn't so simple especially these past two weeks. Lost appetite along with throat feels off - making me gag and puke if I don't spit the food out. I see the doctor tommorow so hope they can help. I take NovaSure which is 500 calories a pop. But shit is expensive. I also have to worry about certain vitamins, salt, etc, and the WORSE is freaking low liquids (20 ounces a day). My body is fucked but I am trying to get 20 to 30 pounds for the liver transplant.

[@IronTeddyBear]

Great video, Adam. My late wife, who was African-American, had DNA that was 75% West African and 25% Northern European. And we both loved pizza and other dairy products, but she had to use Lactaid when we decided to enjoy. After a couple years together, she realized she didn't really need the Lactaid anymore, and she was fully able to digest lactose without the digestive complications. So it seems to me that this isn't just evolutionary, but that our bodies can adapt under certain conditions to the ravages of lactose. I think it has a lot to do with the demethlyation of DNA genes, IMHO, and how our epigentics play a significant role in our ability to handle dairy products. Very informative video, though, thank you.

[@surii867]

Hmm, both sides of my family have 100% Caribbean heritage. I've never had any issues consuming dairy at any point in my life.

[@CZTachyonsVN]

My whole family is Vietnamese and I was born and raised in Central Europe. We regularly had cows milk in our diet my whole childhood. The first time i learned about lactose intolerance is from my caucasian friends in senior year highschool. Then not untill I went to Uni in Australia I learnt that most of the world is lactose intolerant and I'm one of handful people in Uni who are lactase persistent. I can't believe there are people who have to live without icecream....

[@richarddiaz6424]

About 8 years ago, I was traveling to Scotland with a friend with lactose intolerance and we had a one-day layover in Dublin. He realized he had forgotten his lactase pills, so we popped into a pharmacy in Dublin. He asked by brand name and then as lactase, but they had no idea what we were talking about. Finally when he mentioned it was medicine to help drink milk, they realized they had drops for babies that might be right. My friend checked the box and it indeed contained lactase. The only insight the pharmacist could offer was that my friend would need to up the dose recommended on the box because it was meant for babies.

[@OnboardG1]

I had bad sinusitis for about two years in my 20s. It got to the point where my ENT surgeon was considering surgery. At the same time I was having severe digestive discomfort, particularly after eating pizza (which made me sick). My Dad was diagnosed with lactose intolerance after a stomach bug so I stopped drinking milk and took lactase supplements when I had other dairy. My digestive problems went away and so did my sinus issues. The surgeon reckoned I was getting stomach acid in my sinuses from the digestive issues which was inflaming them. Weird how everything is so connected.

[@gregmuon]

I could drink milk into my mid 20s. After that it got increasingly problematic. The peculiar sweetness of milk started tasting disgusting at the same time. Presumably that's the lactose. I can deal with small amounts, but a glassful will induce an unfortunate, um, airiness...

[@N1120A]

Even at 41, I've never developed any sort of lactose malabsorption (intolerance is not really an accurate way of saying things). I think that's partly because I've never stopped consuming dairy and also because I religiously consume 1) fermented dairy as well as unfermented dairy and 2) dietary fiber.

[@Cathowl]

Somewhere in my mid to late 20s my lactose tolerance started failing me, but thankfully I can still eat cheese, and my local store has 2 or 3 brands of milk with lactaise-treated options I can use. As for ice cream... well it doesn't both me as much as plain milk, so I just deal with it and eat less ice cream in one serving than I used to. Dairy is such a key pillar of my diet, since I'm restricted in other ways. If I couldn't have cheese I just flat out probably wouldn't get enough calories and protein. Also it's delicious. :p

[@joaoleite8451]

Been living with lactose intolerance for almost a year now. I'm 21, from Brazil, with indigenous and portuguese descent. This condition is specially interesting because my last name Leite translates to "milk" and I love this amazing white liquid. My father (major european descent) had no problems with lactose even at 70 while my mother (mostly indigenous descent) is also lactose intolerant. I love dairy and still consume it, but in a more careful way to avoid diarrhea, all while ingesting a lactase capsule to help with digestion (it has helped a little). No way in hell I'll stop consuming lactose, specially as a gastronomy student and enthusiast. I thought this condition was quite unique to me and my family, but I'm kinda glad to know this is very common. The fact that people in harsh environments developed a gene favorable to consuming dairy is also super interesting. Thanks for the amazing video as always, Adam!

[@bluester7177]

I think most people would think it's not common to be lactose intolerant here in Brazil because we consume so much dairy and people probably wouldn't think a lot about symptoms if they are not that severe.

[@rich1051414]

What is strange is, if I don't have dairy for a long time, like over a month, the first time I have dairy again, I have a lactose intolerance reaction, but then never again until I stop eating dairy for a while. Is this typical? For completion, my heredity is almost entirely northwestern European.

[@lolbro8701]

I feel like north india being lactose tolerant is also to do with the fact that the culture has milk a lot, like a lot butter and yogurt are very commonly used milk is drank almost unanimously it's just kinda part of the culture

[@scaevolaludens679]

The explaination on DNA methylation was actually quite right in my opinion for this level of detail, and you could honestly skip the "probably". Methylation IS the main way genes are permanently turned off, and it works in tandem with the compaction of the DNA, which is more reversable

[@OutsidewithTom]

This episode was kind of enlightening for me. Drank lots of milk as a kid, then didn't for my younger adult years, then tried to drink milk again in my 30's and my gut totally said no. I had no idea that it was completely normal, but it totally makes sense that my adult digestive system doesn't want baby food anymore. Mystery solved. Thanks, Adam.

[@cadepeterman4276]

Just spent a week as a contractor cleaning the Abbott plant here and was snapped back to attention on the video at the mention of them. Didn't expect to hear about them unless it was in the news.

[@BellePullman]

I live in the dark, cold, dark northern european London - when I visit USA, I become lactose intolerant. Generally fine at home unless I'm sick so I guess I'm borderline - but what's the difference between british and american dairy that I can eat one, and not the other? Those ice cream sandwiches sound divine!

[@MichaelNolanUK]

Our son has galactosaemia, a rare inherited metabolic disease which means he can't process galactose, one of the sugars in lactose. Milk very nearly killed him in the first couple of weeks after he was born, but he's now able to consume a wide selection of cheeses because they are virtually lactose (and galactose) free. Emmental, gruyere, Jarlsberg, extra mature Cheddars are all fine (as is, bizarrely, Babybel!).

[@krankarvolund7771]

When you talked about going back from school in the dark my first reaction was "duh it's winter, it's always dark at 5-6 pm". I'm not from Scotland, but from northern France and it gets dark pretty early here, and I never thought it could be different honestly XD Like for me, it's also dark at 5 pm in Uganda or Ecuador XD

[@browpetj]

Nice piece of research!

[@Xenowolff]

As a Pennsylvanian, "sammiches" made me smile.

[@freedomis4all]

As someone born lactose and gluten intolerant, I can confirm that goat milk did not trigger any reaction. One of the reason I've heard is that one of the cow's milk protein is really similar to gluten, so it can trigger the same reaction.

[@JohnHausser]

😌: I’m lactose intolerant 🤓: mmmh ! He is lactose intolerant guys ! He is lactose intolerant! See ? Nobody cares Cheers from San Diego California

[@Sourpusscandy]

Yeah, you need to test organic vs. conventional dairy. I get sick when they sneak HCFS in it, so now I always read the ingredients. Too much sugar in the ice cream can blow the deal too.

[@jeannebouwman1970]

Adam: yeah my insides are basically the teutoburg forest

[@joshuamidgette4846]

I am allergic to the proteins in milk. That is cow milk and as my body's allergic reaction is to fill my ears with fluid and then pain. Also I like icecream and milk chocolate, so I self medicate with liquigel Claritin within an hour before or after eating the food containing milk. This has served me well for 2 decades now.

[@satanniel]

"Painful death for the lactose intolerant Struggle 'til your last moment!" Love me my lactose in beer, and annoy my friends who can't handle them without tabs.

[@aabazh]

Two things 1. It is the darkest time of the year now and the sunset is at around 1600 in Glasgow. At 4 not at 3. 2. If the day there now is 7 hours and the night 17, then it is vice versa in summer, isn't it? So, there's not so dark, at least in june.

[@LadyRenira]

I'm one of those who apparently isn't lactose intolerant, but only had a problem with the A1 protein. If I consume A2-only products, I don't have an issue. I'm usually good to go with most cheeses regardless of protein, so YMMV. ;) A2-only cow milk is available!

[@yobgodababua1862]

I also became suddenly, severely lactose intolerant just before college, but it turned out to have been a persistent Giardia infestation. Junior year I got VERY sick and ran a 103F fever for a few days, which finally finished off my unwelcome guests and I have been happily dairy tolerant ever since. Look into getting tested for LI parasites.

[@yobgodababua1862]

Also, my LI was so bad that I would bloat up after ingesting lactose so badly that I would distend and have no option but to curl up into the fetal position to relieve the strain on my insides. I was a big fan of sorbet for that time.

[@Tesis]

I prefer to think that my quite recent comment on your other video about Central Asia and lactose persistence is somehow was an input into this video but most likely it’s a coincidence 😄 I love when food and evolution videos don’t just focus on Europe vs South/Southeast/East Asia and Africa. Central Asia it’s such a unique but interesting region in terms of these things and history in general!

[@Tesis]

Also relate heavily about on and off in terms of lactose intolerance - I myself some days can’t handle even a splash of milk in coffee without significant discomfort while other days I’m totally fine.

[@Isaac-sf4zl]

Watched this podcast whilst drinking copious amounts of milk, greetings from one of the almost 100% of Ireland that can digest Lactose. :)

[@JS...]

I was eating pasta and drinking milk as well, greetings from Finland.

[@lookoutforchris]

All the white countries can drink milk.

[@mrsphilm.007]

Northwest Europeans seem to have the helpful “lactase-persistence” mutation! :)

[@slXD100]

@@mrsphilm.007 I'm from the Balkans and I can drink litres of milk without issue. Especially chocolate milk is... mmm! I prefer raw milk from healthy cows, nothing beats that. People never understood how I just drink so much milk and eat insane amounts of dairy without experiencing a storm of diarrhea, well, lactase-persistency for the win!

[@mrsphilm.007]

@@slXD100 lucky you! 🍀💚 :) As I child, I consumed it with no problem, but, alas, that all changed in my teens. 😭