Why Some People Don't Improve On Carnivore: AND HOW TO FIX IT

There is no one correct way to "do Carnivore." That's a fact. But in this video, Amber O'Hearn and I discuss the reason that some people do not seem to fare as well as others do on an "Eat all the meat you can eat" protocol. This high-fat/moderate-protein approach is NOT required for everyone. It's not even optimal for everyone. But if you're struggling and don't know why, this video may offer some answers. If you enjoy it, please like and subscribe. Or maybe leave a comment for me. ☺️
Kelly's Coaching Groups: myzerocarblife.bigcartel.com/category/coaching-sessions
Amber O'Hearn's website: www.mostly-fat.com/
Amber O'Hearn's Instagram: ambimorph?hl=en
The other three episodes with Amber:
Q&A: kzbin.info/www/bejne/mmjanGmNhqmEms0
Fat vs. Protein: kzbin.info/www/bejne/oXWmeHudobOGmMk
The 10+ Year Carnivore Episode: kzbin.info/www/bejne/j4CXhoVpgbaNg7c
The following coaches are also living/teaching a High-Fat/Moderate-Protein Carnivore Diet:
Dr. Lisa Wiedeman: carnivoredoctor?hl=en
Emily Penton: carnivoreminds?hl=en
Amy Bellinder: amy.carnivoresangel?hl=en
Dr. Annette Bosworth: bozmd.com/
Dr. Boz on Instagram: drboz_annettebosworthmd?hl=en
TIME STAMPS:
00:07 Intros
01:26 Is 80/20 a NEW way of doing Carnivore?
01:53 Does EVERYONE need to do a high-fat/moderate protein approach?
02:11 Do SOME people need to do something OTHER than just "Eat more meat."
03:33 Why does Carnivore work so well for so many people?
05:17 Is gluconeogenesis an actual problem?
11:01 How do we help people who can't handle large amounts of protein?
13:43 How to do this approach to 80/20 high-fat/moderate protein?
16:50 Some pictures/examples of my recent meals
19:41 How to figure out your Dr. Boz Ratio
25:14 Dairy/Butter discussion
30:06 How much protein should a person be eating per day?
33:49 Why lower protein MAY be okay for a while. But do some research and be cautious.
34:36 Protein Recycling
37:00 The biggest issue we see for Carnivores
38:52 How to help people who are "stuck"
40:57 Should everyone stop eating 2 pounds of meat in 2MAD?
42:13 Simplicity is amazing...when it works
44:50 MCT and Coconut Oil
46:46 Robert Sikes's approach
Or, visit any/all of these Facebook groups:
Zeroing In On Health: groups/zioh2​
Zero Carb Health: groups/ZeroCa...​
Carnivore For Beginners: groups/thecar...​
Mark's Health & Nutrition Group: groups/Markhit​
Women Carnivore Tribe: groups/womenc...​
World Carnivore Tribe: groups/worldc...​
Strict Carnivore - Zero Carb Life: groups/strict...​
Carnivore For Women: groups/266133...​
The Lion Diet: groups/thelio...​
"THE CARNIVORE DIET" book by Dr. Shawn Baker: www.amazon.com/Carnivore-Diet-Shawn-Baker/dp/162860350X
I'm not a doctor. I don't even play one on TV. Please do not use this video as medical advice. I tell the truth about my own health and my own experiences in hopes of improving other people's health, but have no interest in being sued. So...consult a doctor if you have questions.
And please don't add or take-away anything from your diet that doesn't make you feel good. Your body is always the best judge.
Please like, subscribe, and share the video in order to help spread the Carnivore message.

[@CarnivoreBruno]

This is exactly what I went through!. I have lowered my protein and increased my fat even more and I am now watching the weight melt off after an eight month plateau. I learn this principle from being in Kelly Hogan‘s coaching group. For anyone struggling I highly recommend you reach out to her. Kelly specializes in dealing with food addiction, Carnivore, adapting your strategy to suit your specific needs with Carnivore tools. This video is proof. There may be lots of coaches out there but extremely few have the life experience and ambition to continue learning that makes Kelly excel as a person and Carnivore coach. Kudos to you Kelly!!!

[@IndigoAwakener]

Been stalled for 9 mos, implementation is happening TODAY

[@danharman6064]

Do you only do a certain amount of protein per meal to make that work? I have split my meals up. I think I was having a problem with 1 lb (80 grams of protein) per meal. My fat stores won't budge.

[@myzerocarblife]

This is the most encouraging thing I’ve read all day, Bruno! Thank you so very much for your support and for the amazing way you spread the word on your awesome channel! @zerocarbhealth&fitness is changing lives!! Thanks for all you do!

[@CarnivoreBruno]

@@IndigoAwakener I think you will love the results!

[@CarnivoreBruno]

@@myzerocarblife That’s kind of you Kelly, I have to say this video is close to my heart you put out some amazing content in the last few years but I gotta say, this a breakthrough episode for carnivores that need to hear this! 🤗😉✌🏽👍🏽

[@patricebrown6051]

I am ecstatic that I found this video. I had been carnivore for 22 days. NO fat loss. So frustrated. So I’m going to try the 3 meals a day with 20-30 grams of protein at each meal with more fat ( constipated anyway ). Thank you. Fingers crossed. I am 72 yo. Thank you two. You’re the best.

[@tarantulady8565]

I’m curious… Did it work for you?

[@JESUSSavesWAKEUP]

Update please

[@MoneyStrategiesSOULutions]

80% fat right?

[@tarantulady8565]

@patricebrown6051 I’d love to know how this turned out for you since I’m going through the exact same thing.

[@sg-vp2qg]

​@@tarantulady8565Me too

[@rhachacha72]

I know this video is already a year old, but I just have to comment., I am only 12 minutes into this and I want to CRY tears of joy because I have been so FRUSTRATED by the doctors and influencers in the keto/carnivore space who have continued to GASLIGHT diabetics by insisting that we are crazy for reporting high blood sugar when we eat lots of protein - they give us all sorts of scientific reasons why protein "can't" turn into sugar - but they will not explain or even validate that our glucometers are reporting real and significant blood sugar spikes when we eat large amounts of protein. instead they insist that we MUST be eating too many carbs. I really needed this info - I always suspected that extreme metabolic dysfunction (T2 diabetes, even if well controlled with keto diet and no meds) can still result in some people reporting high blood sugar whenever we attempt to eat large amounts of meat to satiety. Until we regain more metabolic health, eating unlimited meat to satiety without tracking our consumption can definitely keep you trapped in a vicious cycle where your A1c just won't fully normalize. But I am hopeful that I will get there someday.

[@susannes.529]

Dr. Mindy Pelz Talks about that and suggest to wear a tracker for 2 weeks to See how your Body reacts to both Protein and fat (everything basically) in Terms of blood sugar elevations and Spikes because it differs individually.

[@dogcrazy25]

Rewatching this video. Type 2 diabetic, metoblic syndrom. My blood sugar also rose wheni went full carnivore.

[@rhachacha72]

@@dogcrazy25 I started carnivore 6 weeks ago, and one month ago I watched this video and started limiting my protein to 30g at a time with plenty of fat and doing 2-3 meals a day and occasional omad. blood sugar is finally normalizing and I am slowly bumping up the protein to 40-50 in one meal (but not every day). This method of careful protein "rationing" seems to be working and I am gradually tolerating more protein as my insulin response gets better. I am very encouraged. I was diagnosed with T2 in 2011 and I was injecting insulin for 6 years as my health got worse. Reversed it and got off all meds and insulin in 2018 using keto/ketovore with fasting. Then the pandemic stalled everything and I struggled with blood sugar creeping up again. After the pandemic stall I am finally seeing progress again. Good luck with your metabolic healing!

[@dogcrazy25]

@@rhachacha72 thanks for this update. I can now see what i needed to adjust. I never went on insulin, ive beem using metformin but same issues.

[@lahainke]

One of her best videos ever(for my body, anyways!). I was on carnivore diet for 6 months and didn’t lose any weight. I increased protein as many told me to do, and it make me feel worse, muscle aches, more fatigue, and still couldn’t lose weight. But the two months, I’ve dieted closer to Dr. Boz’s way (decreased protein and increased fat a LOT!) , and the pounds are dropping and I FEEL AMAZING again!!!!!!! I do measure my ketones/glucose every morning and keep my self motivated to stay in ketosis and make to I eat the right ratio. More carnivores need to hear this stuff! I’m so thankful I have!

[@jujugoketo3711]

Amen, so glad I heard this today. This is an easy lifestyle and I feel decent, but clothes getting tight. Hate that. I will start tracking and buy a keto mojo!

[@lahainke]

@@jujugoketo3711 The KZbin channel, “Amy: Carnivore’s Angel,” guides and walks through Dr Boz’s diet almost every video she’s made made the past several months. (Her interviews with Dr. Boz helped me a lot). She also has a Facebook group, if you are interested.

[@margaretterrebonne9596]

Want do you use to measure ketones/glucose.

[@MotoXjunk]

@@margaretterrebonne9596 I use a blood test from keto mojo

[@christieanderson1330]

Hey I have the keto strips. Will they stop working or I'm not in ketosis? At first they show dark then they go light in color.

[@robinbeers6689]

My two cents worth as a person who suffered from epilepsy for 35 years. Strict medical ketosis helped some but it was only when I went carnivore and was at a lower level of ketosis that the seizures resolved completely. So, it's not necessarily the higher reading on the ketone meter even for those of us with this malady.

[@pointshealthcoaching8474]

Wow, that is very telling... from both the factual point of view, but also from the "think out of the box" point if view.... thx for sharing - important

[@Terri_2.0]

Thanks for sharing such a crucial point about ketone levels and its effect on your epilepsy, Robin. 💞

[@CalmVibesVee]

So glad the seizures stopped 🤗 I have a gut illness that effecting my brain. Keto for 5yrs but have been mostly carnivore for almost a year out of necessity. Coconut oil, stevia, a few herbal teas that help symptoms, and coffee is what is left. Your story gives me hope. I’m so glad for you ! Can you eat pork or egg yolks, Ghee, Goat cheese?

[@robinbeers6689]

@@CalmVibesVee I don't generally eat pork but I can if I want to (just not my favorite except bacon). I eat lots of eggs with the yolks, (that is the best part ). I am fine with ghee and butter but I have to limit other dairy to occasional treat status. Not a digestive problem, it gives me puffy hands and feet for some reason. I think it is a reaction to the casein protein in dairy. You may not have that issue. Dairy is very individual. Goat dairy (A2) is generally easier to digest than cow (which is A1) for most people even newborn human babies. p.s. I really would suggest ditching the stevia ASAP. It doesn't do good things for your microbiome.

[@No_Frills_Carnivore]

I've been suffering epilepsy for 38 years and high fat moderate protein is the only thing that gives me any relief of seizures. Self sabotage brings the seizures back but carnivore for me is the only thing that worked. I've purposely tested this out just so I know. Thanks for sharing your 2 cents. It is very much appreciated. God bless 🙏🏾 ❤️

[@jennynortje2031]

Started my 1st day on a carnivore journey 😮

[@lionbearcat]

"It doesn't have to be the majority for me to care about it" - that's why I love listening to you

[@tiar476]

WOW I really like this lady, she's so knowledgeable and calming. I love the way she explains everything. I know of no-one in the UK that I could turn to for help. Had a goitre at 16, so big I couldn't swallow properly, but my results were negative and they never helped me, I had to sort it myself. My hair is so thin, my skin is thin and dry, I can't lose weight, I'm so tired, had gestation diabetes at 27, but at 64, I know I have insulin resistance, my joints hurt, I have gut problems and I'm working on it, not as badly constipated. Fatty liver, always bloated, so many allergies where my face swells up, skin falls off and weeping raw and skin splits and bleeds, this can go on for 10 weeks where I can't even open my eyes and still all they want to do is shove more meds down me which have created them to spread and get worse every time, so again, I have to monitor everything I eat, I touch or I'm in contact with etc. I just stopped 9 medications some years ago and they never even questioned it and nothing got worse. Swelling of my ankles, legs, and body, my lymph nodes in my neck were up like eggs, biopsy shocked me, the Consultant and the nurse when we saw the fluid was green, like pea soup, but again, it wasn't cancerous so they left me, they're not even interesting in helping you other than more medication. But nothing has changed for me, I'm so lethargic and manage nearly 4 hours of sleep a night for over 10 years, so many times I can't be bothered to fight on, easier to give up when you're so tired all the time, I've turned into a slob that's a hermit, but Amber has given me food for thought and I will take on board what she said and try this. Thank you Kelly, you look amazing 🤗

[@seaspray9144]

I'm a Brit - so I know of which you speak.. Did you try this and how did you do? Try organic castor oil - there are tons of YT videos on it! Ingest it and rub it on your problem areas..

[@ArtLoverScotland]

@@seaspray9144 Im also a Brit...cannot find anyone to help! SO i amhaving a go at this, carnivore - thyroid issues, hairloss, you name it, swelling legs feet ankles, dry skin...so fed up with the slobs in the medical 'sickness' model. pfft. I do castoe oil as my lower legs are like snake skin scales ugh due to swelling and going down ad infinitum

[@RustyBobbins]

I’m so glad someone is recognizing that not all of us can eat the same on Carnivore. I feel so much better high fat and I’ve NEVER been able to eat more than 1lb of meat a day. I stopped following the ZIOH groups because there were so many people on there chewing me out for not eating 2lbs a day, like they didn’t understand that 2lbs isn’t a law, it’s an average. I have always had bad hormone problems, and liver inflammation, ect. So I just listen to my body and the feedback is always fast and loud LOL. And the info on fasting! I so wish I’d heard this before! When I eat the right amount of fat I loose weight and my feet are so toasty, even in winter. But fasting just makes me feel miserable.

[@MarigoldSundays]

I’m the same way. If I had to eat 2lbs of meat a day, I’d have to force feed myself, which is unnatural. I eat a 1/2 lb a meat a day (2 burgers) and much higher fat as well as take a liver/spleen/blood supplement and I feel great so far.

[@kikiwillow187]

What are things I can est that are higher in fat? Newbie here and I feel as if I need way more fat. Thanks in advance!

[@lynzannabel6990]

@@kikiwillow187 If you can take dairy try full fat milk, butter, cheese and natural yoghurt. Avocado and good quality extra virgin olive oil on your low oxalate salad is good. Hope that helps. ❤🌻💚

[@freedomfirst1922]

Yes! I did strict carnivore for 3 months and had NO ENERGY no matter how much meat I ate. I’m now eating ketovore with very high fat and feel a lot better.

[@RustyBobbins]

@@kikiwillow187 You can look up keto fat bombs. I can't tolerate most of them because I can't handle chocolate but that's just me. I like to get extra fat in with my coffee, mct oil and butter. The mct oil is really good for your brains health. I'll also put butter on top of my burgers and steaks. And my burgers are 80/20. Eggs have a great protien to fat ratio, I'm allergic to them but I notice a lot of people will add eggs to almost every meal. One if my favorite meals is what I call carnivore crack, 1lb breakfast seasoned sausage, 1/2 to 1 full block of cream cheese. Just brown up the sausage and then melt in the cream cheese. It reminds me of sausage gravy which used to be my favorite food.

[@EvolverWellness]

You two may have just saved me! 1.5 years trying to make carnivore work - gonna try reducing protein now!

[@jaymehatfield9540]

As someone that has been trying could you please tell me WHAT you eat exactly? After dozens of videos they never say except bacon beef butter. Ground beef with eggs stirred in is something I would feed my dogs. These channels want you to join their "programs" for hundreds of dollars so say very little after 2.5 hours online. I want to,, but just don't get it.

[@emaboo592]

​@@jaymehatfield9540wow your dogs eat good! I just found a "new" BBBE dish with cooked ground beef, bacon crumbles, then scramble in 2-3 eggs and top of with a nob of butter and enough salt...🤤🤤🤤 SO good! My new satiating power meal! I've only been carnivore most of 3 months, but I've NEVER felt better in my life!

[@jaymehatfield9540]

@@emaboo592 thanks Emma for your idea, but ground meat scrambled eggs is still disgusting for me. I am failing big time at this, prob have ruined $600 worth of meat following directions from youtube chefs. End up with bland tough stinking lumps of meat for the dogs. After 40yrs eating the most delicious foods from many countries I don't think I can do this.

[@kerriannebee8044]

@@emaboo592would love to know the recipe for this :)

[@CL-he4jz]

​​@@jaymehatfield9540KH has shared a few photos/ descriptions of meals from 17:01 ish in this vid. Myself, I like chicken, fish, especially anchovies, steaks, pork, bacon, venison, smoked salmon, crabmeat, a spoon or 2 of double cream in my coffees, or just to eat as dessert ( but I can only have jersey, other dairy in coffee has made me very nauseous). tried some raw camembert recently, no nausea like with other ( even organic) dairy, haven't had dairy for the 6 months carnivore, with exception of grassfed butter and lots of it on my meals. I added a bit of red wine to drink lately, but for me i like it a bit too much- it escalates to daily!! same with having good dark choc recently (over a week). I'm left with a painful arthritis flare in thumb joint. I added some apple cider vinegar to my fizzy water, but lost my "clean teeth" feeling from carnivore, these last 2 days so removed it again. just tinkering a bit. I cook in ghee ( or tallow, butter lard). eggs as boiled, poached, omelettes, scrambled, with butter, pink or sea salt. (just my tuppence worth). I've lately sort of gone back to black coffee as I went off it with cream. I'm satiated and don't crave and its also easy to fast if not convenient to eat. I like the simplicity too. oh and ham! and pheasant! found myself eating half a leftover pheasant in the kitchen, off the bones. it was a new experience, true hunger and satiation. I like eating whatever I want, whenever I want it, to satiety. it's good.

[@brwneyeddaisy1]

What you guys talked about early on, about we’re made to believe high fat carnivore is just adding copious amounts of fat to your carnivore diet. That’s exactly the message that was given to me and the advice I took in the beginning and not only did I not lose weight, I gained over 10 pounds of very unhealthy weight that I’ve spent the last 2 years trying to come back from. And not only did this hurt me, but it hurt my testimony of how great carnivore was. My family especially, still will look at me when I’m recommending carnivore and say “well, it didn’t help you with weight loss”. And that’s heartbreaking because although no, it didn’t (I’m finally seeing some results now on 80/20!), it still healed me of so much. But weight is huge for people and if a diet made you gain unnecessary weight, obviously it doesn’t work.. so let’s please continue to get THIS message out! High fat MUST be combined with lowering protein, otherwise you’re just over consuming in general.

[@HB-xw6im]

Congratulations for staying strong 💪 ❤

[@benicio1967]

Does your fat source come from butter or from the fat on the meat you’re eating?? I’m 305 lbs and thinking about starting out with 12 ounces of protein a day. Hope that’s safe but I really don’t know what my fat intake should look like.

[@brwneyeddaisy1]

@@benicio1967 I use butter, suet, tallow, bone marrow mostly! I’m doing about 9 oz of meat a day currently and the rest fat

[@deanhobbs7507]

So goof

[@judymiller5154]

@@benicio1967 I put the values from brunos 80/20 challenge into cronometer... makes it SO easy to plan and track! I often eat dinner with hubby, so I put in those foods, then calculate what I can eat earlier. I can do trial portions and different foods easily, adjusting to fit my macros. The 80/20, four meal plan has finally broken a 2-year stall for me.

[@whatta1501]

There is no way i can eat two pounds or more of meat. I've been at this for three years and felt like crap until i watched Stephanie keto Person. She recommended eating high fat low protein and i immediately got lower glucose levels and therapeutic keto levels. You need to talk about this more. Not everyone is the same. Thanks for covering this, it is really important. I'm sure i'll have to tweak things up as i go. I was about to give this up. My Dr. Wanted to put me on metformin after starting keto and switching to carnivore. I had no energy especially on carnivore.

[@waomartini3025]

OMG! I needed this! I had left Carnivore because I was gaining so much weight. I was on it for 20 months was just hoping everyday that the healing would begin and the weight would stop piling on. I was using "trust the process." It wasn't working... I am definitely going to implement these principles and hope for the best! Thank you!(53 yr old fat all my life).

[@lr6844]

Your story pretty much echoes mine. Went on carnivore for almost four months and could not lose weight. I even gained six pounds during that time. I became so despondent that I quit and just went back to my normal life. I did drop the six pounds within a couple of weeks but was back to square one of not losing .....again. Listening to Kelly and Amber has given me real hope. So, okay, lessen the protein to some degree, eat the protein in smaller meals and up the fat content. Will do. I have to lose this weight; at 75 I am pretty healthy, just no energy and achy joints. Everyone makes carnivore seem like it is so easy to do and the pounds just melt off of you, but I am here to tell the world, it is not easy for everyone.

[@sharonbohannon1219]

Omigosh that is me! I’ve been on this 16 months and have gained! My knees are killing me (might need replacement) but I have been hoping that this WOE would cause me to lose the 30# I’m overweight and feel better. I’m 78 years old and was always petite until my 50s.

[@foxywhitetip7387]

Myself also 13 months and gained a lot of weight . But I don’t like fat trimmings AT ALL and having been having lots of butter ...

[@overcomer4226]

​@@foxywhitetip7387it may be all the butter. Dairy spikes insulin for some... I hope you have some success

[@beckyg8028]

Have any of you had success with these tips? I'm in the same boat😢

[@panamafred1]

Thank you ladies. I'll give it a try. I'm 74, Carnivore for 7 months. In the first 5 months I lost 20 pounds quite easily. Now I only have a couple pounds to lose around my waist, but it just won't leave. I increased my protein because I was frequently hungry, and I only felt more tired. This is absolutely what I needed to hear. I just went shopping, got some beef ribs with lots of fat. They are in the air fryer now, wrapped in parchment paper, cooking low and slow for about three hours. I can't wait to unwrap them! While they cook, I'm having a mug of bone broth with about an inch cut off a stick of butter. All in all, I have so many good things to say about this way of eating. I feel SO much better, healthier, and more energetic than I ever did as a vegetarian/frequent vegan for 35-years. Love it. THANK YOU BOTH!

[@YeshuaKingMessiah]

So the fat is energizing u? I struggle with extreme fatigue.

[@stefanweilhartner4415]

@@YeshuaKingMessiah when i do 70:30 to 80:20, after my last meal i notice my body temperature staying high and i don't need a blanket to go to sleep. the energy that the body produces is much higher. the next day i can see it on the scale that the body burned a lot of calories ( caloric energy = energy from heat ). if you feel cold sometimes, you have to increase your energy and i am pretty sure that you are not even close to 80:20.

[@YeshuaKingMessiah]

@@stefanweilhartner4415 low ferritin, mitochondrial dysfunction, hypothyroidism and I got up to 6T of butter daily plus iodine drops besides fatty meat. 80/20 for sure, a little better energy I had to quit carni in midOct due to an injury so no longer able to work so no money for anything other than carbs-grains, beans, starchy vegs, etc.

[@stefanweilhartner4415]

@@YeshuaKingMessiah don't know about your budget, but ground meat and lard is quite cheap here in austria. 1kg mixed (beef/pork) meat 7€ 500g lard 2,50€ 250g butter 3€ lard is really cheap

[@unbreakableconfidence]

​@@YeshuaKingMessiahyes, if you feel tired you need more fat

[@floppybob1121]

Ok, I commented 3 days ago below about my one month stall and said I would give a one month follow up, please read the comment I made 3 days ago. Well, its only 2 days in where I increased fat to 80% and dropped protein to 20% and Ive broken my stall and LOST 4 POUNDS!!! Kelly and Amber, I hope you see my post because I want to thank you from the bottom of my heart for this video. I will still give an update a month from now. Stay tuned!!

[@myzerocarblife]

Please do!! That’s awesome!

[@Ladynipchick2]

What would be an example of a meal of 80% fat to 20% protein?

[@seaspray9144]

Can we have an update please?

[@Ladynipchick2]

Hallo??? Anybody?

[@dilletanteproprietor]

6oz ground beef 3 Tbsp butter

[@katstaff317]

I have been struggling with these exact issues. I realized within the past several months that my high protein meals give me terrible crashes and all I want to do is take a nap after eating. I also realized that my smaller, high fat/mod protein meals give me more energy and speed up my metabolism, allowing my food to digest better and no crash an hour after eating. Thank you ladies for discussing these topics and NOT putting a one size fits all on carnivore. I'll be adjusting how I eat my meals and hope to see results!

[@hollyf.8938]

Katherine I have the exact same problem. I thought it was better to eat two big protein meals a day (intermittent fasting and all that), and I am HUNGRY at lunch so I eat a pound of meat but then I need a nap, and I have not been losing weight. I'm excited to try this new way of eating. Not only did I lean into it, I want to jump right in!

[@katstaff317]

@@hollyf.8938 I'm glad I'm not alone!! I think a lot of it has to do with low bile acids and not being able to digest the protein properly. How are your smaller meals going? And how do you ensure you are getting enough fat in your meals?

[@Holly-ql4ox]

@@katstaff317 Well I haven't started yet, just watched the video now but I'll probably start with butter and see if I can get ribeye fat trimmings from my butcher, I do love those fried up in a pan! I didn't think about low bile acids, I recently started on a supplement called TUDCA to increase bile acids (I read that it can help with weight loss & energy).

[@katstaff317]

@@Holly-ql4ox Please update me when you start eating more fats!! I think I will definitely start asking for rirbeye fat trimmings as well. Sounds super good! And also, I have heard a lot about TUDCA and am interested. I may look into it more and see if it would be beneficial. Thank you for all your info!!

[@denisea.9033]

Hi there! Any updates since you all started trying the higher fat/lower protein? Thanks!

[@Nina-fh1bg]

Thank you for this. I actually fell off the wagon because I stuck faithfully to carnivore for 4 or 5 months and slowly lost 22 pounds and stalled. I was doing intermittent fasting for 17 or 18 hours a day. I started getting weak and too tired to put one foot in front of the other. I started at 291 pounds so I was still very obese after the 20 pound loss...and yet I stalled and felt like garbage. I needed this. It gives me hope. ❤

[@concettaworkman5895]

Yes, I had a friend that did 72-hour rolling fasts, and then only ate carnivore and didn't lose an ounce. She gave up, this is the answer for her, methinks.

[@Bhatmann]

Heal the gut, heals the body.

[@JediMyndTrick]

Sometimes fasting isn’t the answer. It can tank women’s hormones if not done properly for your body. See Dr. Mindy Pelz channel. She specializes in healing the gut and fasting the right way.

[@la912]

So, in the end is moderating protein and consuming more fat what works?

[@YeshuaKingMessiah]

How r u going? The last 8 mos? Have u improved?

[@JenniferStormyWeather]

This is so helpful! Just joined Bruno’s 80/20 4 meals a day challenge and I’m feeling better already. I’m one of these people who wasn’t losing weight and having blood sugar issues. Now that I’m doing higher fat, and 4 smaller meals of meat, I’m seeing a shift 🥰

[@cinthiabautista9977]

Hi… who is Bruno?

[@SantyKaa]

X2

[@shannonsuddaby2500]

My work schedule does not allow me to eat more than 3 meals a day.

[@ABow-74]

@@shannonsuddaby2500 mine either. I'm an OR nurse and I also have to go to lunch when they tell me.

[@curiouscat3384]

@@ABow-74 Well I think what they are saying, and heard Dr. Berry say recently, that a strict intermittent fasting schedule is not necessarily required to start the healing and weight loss going. Once you're fat adapted, if you're working long shifts, that could be your fasting period when you skip lunch! :)

[@MellowJourney4Life]

2 years ago, Kelly sparked the idea of carnivore and Amber gave the scientific reassurance that I needed. I love when these two inspiring ladies get together. Something amazing always comes out of it. I've slowly lost 70 lbs in the past 2 years. Now I feel armed to lose that final 35 or 40 lbs. Going through my fridge and freezer, figuring what 30-40 grams of protein would look like. Making a list. Thank you both!!!

[@helenalovelock1030]

Are you only eating 30/40 G protein per day ?

[@MellowJourney4Life]

Per meal. I work at a hospital so can only manage 3 meals instead of 4. That comes out to about 35-40 grams per meal for me. I also have a high lean body mass and do training 3x per week, so don't want to go too low on protein. I have 35-40 lbs left to lose.

[@helenalovelock1030]

@@MellowJourney4Life ok great Thankyou. So 35-40 grams of the protein that is in meat? Or 35-40 grams of total beef/meat ?

[@MellowJourney4Life]

@@helenalovelock1030 grams of protein per meal. Kelly is doing about 25 grams of protein per meal, I believe she said. I'm interested to see how this goes.

[@anonymouse5910]

@@MellowJourney4Life how does one determine that they have a high lean body mass. this sounds like useful info that might be a help. thanks!

[@Insomniac4791]

This was really helpful thank you both! Been low carb for 23 years, have just started carnivore in an attempt to lose weight I’ve gained from too many work dinners and was struggling and becoming frustrated. Here’s what I learned: 1) lower protein and increase fat so it’s 2:1 fat to protein 2) if that doesn’t do it, lower protein intake and break up “dosing” to keep the fat ratios super high 3) don’t worry about counting calories (which has been working but I get hungry and know this isn’t how it works) 4) when in doubt, maybe have a fat fasting day

[@geraldinealmeida7605]

I'm so grateful to listen to this podcast! I started carnivore in July and haven't lost a single pound! No change to chronic hip pain either. I was so frustrated, watching all the comments from people on Dr Berry's channel who've cancelled replacement operations after being carnivore for a few weeks! I will be joining Kelly's group and hope to change everything! God bless you both!

[@pederjohansen2029]

Good luck. It's a journey that brings learning.

[@barbjustus462]

I too started in july and have only lost 25 pounds but alot of pain in my hip bones have gone down but I know now I have to up my fats alot more. Stick to it ,It does work

[@victoriawebster8816]

It takes our bodies a while to heal from all the crap we’ve put in it ! I’ve been doing this since early summer but have fallen off the wagon a few times with treats from work etc but I start again the next day I’ve only lost 7 lbs so far but only need to lose 20 So now I have to really stick to it I want to look good for my daughters wedding next May 2023 !

[@kikiwillow187]

I began in July as well. I have NOT been perfect but would say, I am carnivore 90/95% of the time! I lost 10 pounds. No more and I am frustrated! Still a TON of knee and back pain ans exema is awful!

[@cherylh4688]

@@kikiwillow187 I'm wondering if it's possible you are still experiencing so much pain, etc due to "oxalate dumping," which is something that happens when we stop eating high oxalate plants. Oxalates are toxic to our bodies, like little shards of glass that can be deposited literally anywhere, and that accumulate in the body, thus causing pain and other disruptions to gradually worsen over time. Yet when we abruptly stop ingesting them, our bodies start a process known as "oxalate dumping" in an attempt to rid itself of them & their damaging effects, which can sometimes take years, and for a while during this phase, the symptoms can actually get worse. There are lots of videos about oxalates and oxylate dumping on KZbin, as well as recommendations for how to minimize the effects. Obviously I don't know if this is what is causing your continued discomfort and other symptoms, Kiki, nor am I a health professional. I was just surprised to hear how you are still suffering and that was the only explanation that I could think of besides that you are eating more of your problem foods on your cheat days. In myself, the effects of cheating one time can sometimes last for several weeks! Good luck with your continued healing, tho'; I truly believe you are bound to be pain-free eventually, just as I finally am!! 🤞🙏 Rooting for you!

[@jjjackiejam]

This is so what everyone needs to see right now with all the swirl about high fat, gluconeogenisis and all. Love this Kelly. You are so the role model and Amber is wonderful on this topic.

[@karenmiles9822]

This sure was a well timed video for us doing the 80/20 protocol!

[@sandrahightower3674]

I am amazed at the change in my blood glucose readings doing this compared to my previous two meals a day, along with 2 36 hour fasts per week. I am wearing my CGM this week and doing this way of eating and it is a total game changer! My night time values have come down from ups and downs ranging from 80 - 125 all night long to being the same as an evening after 24 hours of fasting, hovering between 90-100 the whole night. My daytime readings are 80-95 all day long, compared to spiking 30 - 40 points after a high protein meal. I'm optimistic to get on the scale after a week of this. Post menopausal woman with a lifetime of low fat eating and weight watchers b.s. and I feel so much more alive on carnivore.

[@seaspray9144]

Can we have an update please? And what is a CGM?

[@wendywertz8828]

Your channel is awesome thank you ! I kept eating fatty meat until I was “comfortably stuffed “ like Dr Ken Berry preaches and all That did was make me gain weight and feel like crap ! Lowering the protein and increasing fat fixed it for me ! Thank you !

[@seaspray9144]

How much did increasing your fat intake 'fix it for you'? What did you do please?

[@Mrs.TJTaylor]

This was for me. Elderly woman with long term metabolic problems who gains weight on carnivore.

[@nealchambers2306]

Hi Kelly. This is by far the best carnivore related vid I have ever watched. I am one of the people that you talk about here. 7 months, +4lbs, tired, hungry, can’t fast, don’t sleep well, general low energy state. just had my 1st 80:20 meal and let’s see what happens eh x

[@carrocesta]

Try fruit alone in the mornings and honey, it really helped me!

[@myzerocarblife]

That will send most recovered sugar addicts straight back to carbs and sugar addiction as well as obesity and diabetes and gout. I know because they end up in my groups and repeatedly say that that’s exactly how they got back into trouble: the fruit and honey. If you do well with that, awesome. Enjoy. Many of us DIDN’T.

[@nealchambers2306]

@@carrocesta terrible advice. Your watching too many Saladino videos. You feel good because your getting your glucose fix every day. It's an addiction.

[@ville11231123]

@@carrocesta Honestly I think if we all lived in Costa Rica and got a lot of sun and exercise the fruit one honey isn’t so bad but with most Standard American lifestyle I don’t think it will help much but I understand where you’re coming from

[@jonthompson1068]

Why would you keep doing something that clearly isn’t working? You need to adapt.

[@Lee-lx7lu]

glad to have listened to this. I have been doing carnivore for 2 months and have not lost a single ounce. I want to lose 100 lbs, so am quite concerned that I have NOT lost a thing yet. I will boost up the fat consumption and take note of what happens.

[@davidtraud851]

THIS!! After a doctor’s visit and blood work this video is what I needed. Months on carnivore, fasting and gaining weight, fatigue, depression, etc. Starting today with these recommendations. Many thanks Miss Kelly❤

[@Northandsouthsewing]

I nearly cried when I saw this video’s topics. I have been doing this perfectly for two months have had nothing but trouble and numbers getting worse instead of better. I’m obese, having issues and lost nothing. Yes, I have a ton of health issues - probably all of these things you’re mentioning. I do feel overwhelmed with this video so I’ll probably watch a couple more times to see if I can really get a hold of what you’re suggesting, I don’t want to go back to the old way because I do feel different but something is not right. Thanks for all your doing.

[@vannafillion6738]

I am the exactly same as you but i know it works doing it 5 years ago and lost 100 lb. Only difference is i do intermittent fasting...not hard core. Just try not to eat before noon and end last meal around 6pm. Pounds will drop.

[@Northandsouthsewing]

@@vannafillion6738 I have been doing intermittent fasting as well. 18-20 fast. 4-6 eat window.

[@kzp5249]

Do you see any progress. I’ve been 3 months on and no weight loss but see health changes , I had just upped fat intake but protein is probably low.

[@kellykrout1451]

Thank you! I’m one of those “older ladies” (63) who needed to hear this after losing only 7 pounds total four months in to this carnivore way of eating.

[@freedomfirst1922]

That’s more than me and I’m only 37

[@AtHomeWithJenn]

Me too

[@CarnivoreBruno]

Can you tell me about your non-scale victories though?

[@jimbeaver27]

I am 71 and I can show you some ways to lose more weight...

[@lynzannabel6990]

@Nutrient Density 👍🏾💜

[@PatBoyd59]

After the initial weight loss on keto 4 years ago my weight has stalled. I had come to the conclusion that my post menopausal body was just going to hang onto the extra 50# no matter what I did. I have been eating a carnivore diet for the last 3 years and my weight has been maintaining. I think this is worth a try to try and get those pounds gone and my energy levels at a better place. I have tried higher fat at times but didn't lower the protein and of course had no results, now I understand why. Thanks Kelly and Amber for a great interview!

[@gstbadcat1]

I’m in the same boat. I joined Steak Butter gang for Sept challenge to try the priming which is eating enough to be satisfied for the next 48hr fast. The 48 hr fast is to put the body in the state of autophagy (state of cell renewal) to deal with stubborn fat and loose skin. I can go for 24hr fast, but so far not 48hr fast.

[@PatBoyd59]

@@gstbadcat1 Congratulations on the fasting, I have tried but it makes me feel unwell. Tried the low fat PSMF and that had the same result. I have done intermittent fasting, either 16/8 or 18/6 for the last couple of years and that is great. I have upped my fat in the past but never lowered my protein so it's worth a try. Good luck with what you are trying!

[@seaspray9144]

@@PatBoyd59 I would love an update on how this went for you?

[@PatBoyd59]

@@seaspray9144 I have found that my thyroid has not been functioning properly and since starting treatment for that my weight is slowly coming off again. I’m back at the gym also because my energy levels are better. I tried having extra fat with lower protein and eating three meals a day but didn’t see any results. I’m back on my usual two meals with a light snack in the afternoon/evening. I eat about a pound of meat a day, usually beef. I don’t add a lot of extra fat as it just goes straight through me. I just try and choose fatty cuts of meat and life is good.

[@Jennifer-rd4yg]

This conversation is exactly what I needed to hear. It is essential for my mental health to be in ketosis. I consistently get kicked out of ketosis when I eat protein. Resukting depression and extreme mood fluctuations. I had some success eating suet and meat (I am sensative to dairy even butter) but this video has given some great real world pointers on meal sizes protein/fat. The plate visual are perfect, would love more visuals like that. Finding a way that I will not get kicked out of ketosis at every meal is critical for me.

[@jangordon6540]

How does one get into your groups? Is there an application process? Info please

[@jimbeaver27]

try some fasting, this will get your fat burning going better, and you can eat loads of protein and be in high ketosis, work towards 1 big meal a day no snacking, do this for at least a week and see if you have any results

[@esthersmith3341]

@@jimbeaver27 that is how I have been eating for years. Family members think I am nuts and starving myself. I just don't get hungry till late evening and have maintained my weight. One big meal.

[@mwmensen]

Thank you for this episode! It was so informative on things I've wondered about and things I'm going through right now. After seeing so many fellow carnivores and NSNGers do the high fat at the beginning of August, it hit me that I had fallen into the "more protein, more protein, more protein" preaching from so many influencers on Instagram. I started adding in more fat, particularly more butter, straight butter, butter added to everything. My cravings are finally get back under control and I notice now that I'm not always so ravenous; I can eat and say I'm good. Weight is headed back down too!

[@jeannedigennaro6484]

Yes, raising my fat consumption helped my cravings. I don’t think I’ll ever get to 80% fat. Not right for me. I need to find a source for beef fat trimmings.

[@carolstonner8010]

Really value Amber’s opinion! She knows her stuff! Thank you for discussing higher fat approach.

[@LoriP123]

OMG! I have had to listen to this amazing video 3X in the past few years to finally have it make sense for me! Just re-started Carnivore 3days ago (after having done it for almost 2 years!) and now I get where I went wrong! This time I’ve been tracking everything into Carb Manager app and it shows my fat:protein ratios approximately 60:40 (61:39; 63:37; 62:38) over the past 3 days. I had no idea until I started tracking, (so I highly recommend it, it’s a free app anyway unless you want the premium) so now I’m off to buy some butter (UNsalted, cus I realized that for me, salt isn’t making me feel any better) and be more conscientious about eating less protein at each meal while adding in more fat and eating 3-4 smaller meals instead of the two large ones I’ve been chowing down on! 🤞 Hopefully the weight will start dropping and I’ll actually start sleeping better so that I can continue my daily walking. BTW, of all the carnivore KZbinrs, I love the O.G the absolute best!

[@RestfulLearning]

Be careful on unsalted butter; most brands add “natural flavors” to unsalted.

[@stefanweilhartner4415]

check out dr. elisabeth bright on some interviews on '5 minute body' she explains the reason for 80:20 regarding lowering cortisol. maybe for men the need for protein is a bit higher in the area of 70:30. also butter before going to bed works like a sleep aid by lowering cortisol.

[@carolyntrezona4211]

This is the BEST video I have ever watched on weight loss stall. Thank you Kelly and Amber for solving my problem!

[@pollyjetix2027]

Now, this explains a few things for me. I have had T2 Diabetes for a few years. I've been able to manage my glucose by diet alone - Keto for the most part. But I've gone more and more toward carnivore, as the glucose is getting harder to manage. I've tried IF. In fact, I did OMAD for a month - and the glucose normalized, and I lost 20 lbs. But I felt starved, and COLD all the time! I felt I just couldn't keep going. So I threw in the towel, and tried going on Mounjaro. Well, that fell through with my insurance, so I tried Ozempic... the side effects were horrific. I lasted one week on that medication. So here I am, cutting carbs severely again, and trying to fast, but failing... But now I've got a new strategy. Butter will be my best friend. I can do OMAD if I can nibble butter otherwise... and I'll start that meal with butter. I absolutely LOVE butter. As a fat kid, 55 years ago, I used to sneak a fingertip into the homemade butter sitting on the countertop. We had our own milk cow, and Mama made the BEST clabbered-cream butter! Of course, it was raw. I milked that cow by hand for years... now I want a Jersey cow. Just for the butter.

[@overcomer4226]

Get 2 goats. Easier on the stomach, less inflammatory. Cheaper to feed

[@Renee-radc]

For those who "can't handle dairy" I wish they'd try RAW dairy! The difference is like night and day. I'm 67 and thought for decades I didn't like most dairy but oh boy!!! I've been having raw butter, raw cheese, and raw kefir and talk about delish!!

[@karenmiles9822]

This is very timely! I've been doing 80/20 high fat moderate protein and lost 5 lbs in the 1st month after gaining weight the past 9 months. That's for including before and after pictures of me! This is great info!

[@katrinabohnhorst5329]

Keep it up!! I hope you get to reach your goals :)

[@karenmiles9822]

@@katrinabohnhorst5329 thank you so much. I'm getting there.

[@rabbitholerMe]

Karen, I'm sure you will reach those goals! You're no stranger to the the Carnivore way! This may be the tool that's been missing from your toolbelt re: those final lbs and hey! Maybe it will help eliminate your cramping issues, too! Thank you for sharing your experiences and knowledge in the SBG community! 🙏

[@karenmiles9822]

@@rabbitholerMe thank you so much and I sure hope this is the tool that I need to rid my body of the nighttime cramps!

[@rewaltersnc]

Water worked for me after terrible night leg cramps. I got serious about drinking half my body weight in ounces of water a day. I also made sure to begin with that I had 1/2 tsp of salt for every 2 quarts of water because salt in the right quantity helps the cells hold water in them. It worked like a charm. After a few days I stopped measuring the salt and just salted my food. I think I was just drinking too little water. No problems since. Also, drink additional water when exercising or drinking something caffeinated. When we stop eating carbs, we are also loosing some water content found in them. Totally worth the trade off to me.

[@amysakol8554]

Very helpful video. I kept hearing "eat meat with lots of fat." Until this video, no one ever explained how much "lots of fat" is. Also, I made the same mistake that Kelly mentioned where I kept my protein high and doubled my fat. That just caused me to gain weight. I'm very excited to follow the guidance in this video!

[@peachesandcream8753]

I think I'm having this problem myself where I feel sluggish and have seen significant weight gain; despite exercising everyday. My clothes barely fit me anymore and I was so ready to give up. I'll try eating more fat and less protein and see how I go.

[@Scrumpleey]

This is me too

[@joancarsey9876]

Pork belly is a lot of fat.

[@joancarsey9876]

Lower your protein unless you begin hardcore training.

[@larrysimpson6087]

The old saying of "A picture is worth a thousand words" Thanks those pictures combined with with the discussion really help!!!

[@stealth48nurse]

I would like to know how Amber got her gut infection while eating a carnivore diet and how she healed it in addition to her medical treatments.

[@Susie-se4mv]

Yes, that would be interesting

[@nanm2398]

I understand & share your curiosity. I hope people don't jump to conclusions, as infections can happen from various causes, for instance a colonoscopy. And I agree, hearing how she healed it would be interesting. :^)

[@JR-eg5xl]

Fingers crossed increasing my fat helps, been gaining weight since day 1 on carnivore 4 months ago. It's been frustrating to say the least but I'm not giving up. Thank you for this informative video

[@Kwildcat13]

Try measuring your food , the amount of food matters , cal in vs out is still real . Yes good choice is a factor but if you over eat you will gain .. get a baseline of what you eat and tweek it ..

[@Jeff.78]

@@Kwildcat13 Calories don't matter. Dr. Ken Berry has a video discussing why. Eating enough fat satiates your Leptin hormone and you feel full. For example: I can eat a dozen eggs and feel full. That equates to approximately 1,000 calories. Or, I can eat 2lbs of ground beef before I feel full. That's around 2,400 calories. Increased fat intake and nutrient density are far more important than the "Cals in vs. Cals out" myth. Peace✌️😎

[@ShannonColleen]

I'm also your hypothetical example. Long time metabolic issues, over 50, got stuck after 11 months of carnivore, etc. It's so clear now that I was eating WAY too much protein in single sittings. Thank you BOTH so much for finally explaining exactly what to try now. Love to you both. 🥰🥰

[@gerberag1829]

This answers everything that I have been dealing with!! I just felt so sluggish and hungry on carnivore! More I ate the worse it got! So I started to experiment with having a small amount of meat for each meal a few weeks back and things got much better with my appetite! I didn’t add a lot more fat but now I will! Thank you for this valuable info!

[@marthalucia6941]

Thank you Kelly and Amber. I'm one of those who had lost weight on keto carnivore, my weight down to 130 lbs at 5'6" but my fasting BG was 127...and now considered a pre diabetic. I loved the weight loss but I still didn't feel great with low energy and AI symptoms not resolving. A very helpful video indeed!

[@hikergirl5693]

Great interview, always love hearing Amber's thoughts on things, she is so intelligent. And Kelly, I love that you are educating yourself with new information on what might work for those of us that are having trouble getting the weight to move....you are such a caring person. ❤

[@NTNW1]

💯💯💯

[@darlafitzpatrick8770]

There's always something to learn from Amber. Thanks for framing the conversation in a way that honors the inherent variability between individuals.

[@vintageshabbyglamour7865]

Oh my gosh!! I so needed this video! I have been carnivore since July 4th, only lost 1 pound, no energy, feel like crap most of the time. Heavy cream in my coffee every day, cheese - probably part of the problem. Now I know to try this 80/20 and cut way, way back on the heavy cream to see if this makes a difference. So grateful to you and your channel and caring about each and every one of us. Love and hugs to you!

[@michellespaeth7608]

I think this information will help me so much! I’ve been struggling with lack of weight loss and other problems on carnivore (including excessive hunger & hard to manage cravings) but this video reminded me that the more fat in my meals that I eat the more satisfied I am and I truly don’t get hungry as often or suffer cravings. I will up my fat again and see if it helps. In the past when I ate more fat I found I don’t need as much meat when I do. It seems to balance out for me eating with fats in mind. This video is such a validation of my eating experience with fats. Even when I was keto I had a lot more luck with keeping my ketones up and glucose down when I ate higher fat. It’s interesting to hear some of the research about this subject. I wish I had known more about this when my brother was diagnosed with stage 4 glioblastoma (brain cancer). I still wonder if he could have beat it with the ketogenic diet at a therapeutic level. 🤔I guess I’ll never know. He passed in 2007 before I’d ever even adopted a low carb diet (back in 2010). Still, if there’s any genetic component to it I want to avoid his fate if at all possible.

[@donnagrant950]

I really received some needed help from this conversation . Thank you Amber and Kelly . I've been struggling but I am seeing a new way forward.

[@linda7345n]

A group member on Carnivore for Women posted a link to this video. It blew me away as well as answering the nagging question 'What am I doing wrong?' Well, I learned I wasn't doing anything wrong, so to speak; but that because I have a 77 year old body, I have to change the way and frequency that I eat. I have been on Carnivore since 10/28/21. I've lost about 25 pounds but it has been a rough road --lots of intermittent fasting. In the last two months I have been in the throes of wanting a lot of fat but doing my best to curb that. I now know, my body wanted the fat for a very good reason. And I also now know why some 'insulin resistance' problems really never went away. Thank you so, so much for creating this video. I will watch it again and again. I'll also go to Amber's channel to add to my education. Thanks again!

[@debgonzales4828]

This is probably the best explanation I’ve heard regarding increasing fats. I happen to be one of those that have been carnivore for a couple months with no weight change. Going to add more fats now.

[@ZannaTaylor]

I will try this. I've tried carnivore for 3 months with no loss in weight or inches. I can't eat a whole lot though. My protein was high, fat was low so, I'm in. Wish me luck.

[@debragraff4649]

This might explain why, after several months of ketovore, my A1C only dropped from 5.7 to 5.6 and I had stopped losing weight (I still have a lot to lose). I was eating high protein and only moderate fat. And I wasn't feeling very good.

[@martiphone4884]

For me the biggest take-away is not eating just one meal a day, but spreading daily amounts out over 3-4 meals.

[@sheryahh1773]

Try the 3 day sardine challenge from Dr Boz. My BG stay the same when eating meat, or even high fat carnivore. But after one can Sardines in olive oil and fried in butter, it immediately starts dropping. As soon as I eat meat again, my BG goes up again.

[@brendaalvarez8576]

So helpful Amber is so knowledgeable ! Been carnivore for 2 1/2 years it’s been a God send but was totally stuck with my weight & low energy for the last couple of months ,changing it up a bit. Thanks for sharing

[@NTNW1]

Low energy is common if fat is too low!

[@suzannedextraze3521]

Thank you Kelly and Amber for a very informative and educational interview. Kelly I love how you are still learning and questioning different theories even though you've been a carnivore for years.

[@jenniferwinkler8886]

Thank you so much! You asked questions many of us have been asking. I love being on 80/20 most days. But then I kept seeing everywhere "don't eat less than 100g of protein." I started second guessing myself (it's 91g for me). But then I realized how good I feel and strong I am. So sticking to 80/20. ❤️

[@BWEE1304]

Jennifer, I am new to carnivore and trying to figure this all out Are you eating 91 grams per day or per meal?

[@jenniferwinkler8886]

@@BWEE1304 per day.

[@Ladynipchick2]

I'm new as well. Trying to understand. What would be an example of a typical meal of 80% fat to 20% protein?

[@meganweir7886]

Awesome chat ladies. Keep doing what you’re doing, you are helping so many people you don’t even know.

[@jenniferjohnson2238]

Absolutely brilliant conversation, thanks so much for sharing this with us!

[@martarico186]

this is the most important and simple way of deciding what to eat without so much of stuff to do... I like Amber's style

[@teribond7808]

Another wonderful video. Amber's website was one that read over and over when I started carnivore and I love her thoughtful approach. She explains the nuances so well. I started eating 80/20 in August and ALL sugar cravings evaporated. Gone. I have mental peace again and am looking forward to experience other benefits as I continue. Thank you both!!

[@the_dudeabides9718]

Another incredible conversation! So much great information I might need to watch again. Thanks Kelly!!!

[@stevenaschoff]

Perfect video for what I seem to be going through right now! So happy you posted this as I feel like I have some good marching orders on what to try and it made a lot of sense to me! Thanks for all of the great information you provide on this lifestyle!

[@bellaheblan8479]

What an incredible resource of information! I’ve been on carnivore for 2 months! Listening to men who work out is okay, but this seems to fit my situation as a woman, and someone who must have some metabolic issues. I’m 69, and I’ve experienced many good things after eating carnivore… a little weight loss, brain clarity, bathroom regularity, arthritis healing, and skin improvement. 😊 Looking forward to seeing more weight loss improvements! Thank you, ladies! ❤

[@michelleburt3468]

This video is so packed with jems of useful information! I have watched it 3 times and each time I hear something I missed the time before!! This has answered so many of the questions and resolved so many of the issues I was having!! Thank you Ladies!!

[@joolds-ruppel1846]

I could listen to you two all day! Thank you both so much and please continue the great conversation in the future 😉

[@amydoterra1138]

I finally got to sit and listen to this and I am so glad I did! I started carnivore (from keto) right at the beginning of August. So I’m about 6 weeks in and the scale hasn’t moved at all, my glucose levels went up and my ketones went down! I have been so frustrated! I didn’t know where to go from here… this helped me make some sense of things and I am definitely going to try some of these methods 🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼 Thank you Kelly and Amber!

[@jfcrum99]

Great interview Kelly!!! You asked all the questions I had! Amber’s knowledge and explanations are so easy understand!

[@melaniemckittrick8154]

This video was so helpful. I was significantly overeating protein and tremendously under eating fat. Didn’t feel well. Zero energy. Flipped that a week ago and have felt better but found the info in this video so helpful for the continued transition to more smaller meals with less protein and more fat. Thanks for all your videos but this one especially! ❤️

[@stephanieacajabon5362]

I was already trying to work through glucose spikes when I started carnivore. I thought for sure carnivore would help me tremendously. Then my levels of glucose stayed above 100 all the time, and I could not get my ketones higher than .3. What?! Watching this video explained it all for me! It's frustrating, but good to know I have a protein sensitivity that just needs less protein/more frequently along with higher fat. The fasting test to see if this is a protein sensitivity was like listening to my own fasting experience the last few months. Im going to give this way of higher fat carnivore a try! This conversation was so helpful. Thank you!

[@seaspray9144]

What did you do for the fasting test?

[@LifeOnMyTerms22]

Wow Kelly! I listen to all the “big” carnivore sources for years, but this really explained the fat consumption best for me. THANK YOU!!!!

[@Magdalenasita]

I just love this notes under the video … its so helpful 🙏greating from Poland .Iam a carnivore 🫶feel so good Thank you ❤️

[@maryj2734]

You two deserve medals and awesome things! Love you both so much. Thank you for sharing this knowledge, I was fasting myself into oblivion. Now I know how to use my ketone strips to my benefit.

[@hazeldavis3176]

I feel like everything suddenly clicked into place. Feels like the room is spinning, but in a really good way. It explains everything I've been going through. Inability to lose weight while fasting (even for five day water fasts!), Post prandial exhaustion, lack of energy. I'm so excited to put this new knowledge to work!

[@jacquesduranceau8762]

Thanks for a great vid! As a yoyoing carnivore for 3.5 years, I really appreciated your take on things. If I continue on carnivore, I'm definitely going to pay more attention to ketosis. You described all the difficulties that I've been having.

[@mws121269]

Thanks Kelly for being so willing to explore this to help others

[@karenmiles9822]

That's what makes Kelly so special. She doesn't need this experiment but we sure do. She's amazing!

[@jimbeaver27]

Ladies, I'm a guy been on Keto almost 2 years, really feel younger, lost all aches and pains, can even run again, but for me the most important thing was to shrink my prostate and get rid of the symptoms. The symptoms got better over most of the Keto life but lately the symptoms get worse with Keto and better if I eat some carbs. It is like I don't need Ketones anymore. I am definitely fat adapted and my body can produce insulin on demand and it is effective so I am insulin sensitive. So I am still on a low carb diet but not low enough for ketosis, but I have a high enough blood sugar for my body's needs. I feel balanced, and my prostate symptoms are subsiding. It is like at a certain point I was shrinking my prostate too much, I need to let it relax and perhaps more slowly get back to normal, kind of stabilize, with a healthy diet including some healthy carbs. It is weird because over the last few months of Keto my symptoms at times were almost gone, I was feeling so great about normal urination, complete bladder emptying, and not having to piss urgently. If I have to eat a piece of toast and a potato every day then that is what I will do. For me, most of my journey has been experimenting and going with what works. Keto though, was super important to get my large prostate back into shape and curing a miriad of age related aches and pains. Those aches and pains are not coming back since not being on Keto, my problem now is restricting my carbs to reasonable amounts. I am eating sweet potatoes, squash for carbs. I do eat lots of good meat mostly beef, and a moderate amount of good fats. My ratios right now are about 30/35/35 protein/fat/carbs. I think eating clean healthy real food is the key, once you get healthy. I am pretty sure my body is still burning some fat, although it will not show in ketone readings. I still do IF two meals a day so that helps. But I have always been a skinny guy, hard to put on fat, and able to handle extra carbs. I do some resistance training, some running, and plenty of walking. I am 71. Looking for a lady with a similar story :)

[@mindmatters9515]

Oh my gosh! This was made for me. I knew something wasn’t right with my metabolism but couldn’t quite put my finger on it. I am on day 7 strict carnivore and my glucose is 98 ketones 0.7-so frustrating. I will try upping my fat and break it down to 3-4 meals a day and see if this helps. Thank you Kelly! thank you Amber! -this is awesome life changing info for people like me who are struggling❤

[@maracorley8762]

Thanks so much for this interview! I’m older and have a number of issues so this gives me something to try to make it work.

[@louisefromNY]

Kelly! Greatest KZbin ever!!! Thank you! 😊3 weeks in and NO weight loss. My Ketones never register and my blood sugar is around 125. Never sleep. This advice is wonderful! I will add lots more fat! Higher protein. 😊

[@lggig534]

Thanks for this! I’ve been trying to listen to my body and not my head. Been following this without a set plan and doing well and looking better too.

[@iwillsinganewsong]

What a soothing voice; could listen to her forever. Such a smart and thoughtful discussion.

[@Julia_Berrrlin]

I did not expect Dr. Boz to pop up! Amazing interview! Thank you so much, deeply humbled

[@melisahidalgo6412]

Thank you both so much!!! These are exactly the ideas and the items that I’m struggling with. Thank you so much Kelly.

[@mv0902]

Thank you for breaking this down so deeply and providing photos of what you eat. I have lost a lot of weight on Keto then went carnivore 3 yrs ago and have gained 20 lbs back. I think I may be eating too much protein. I needed to see and hear this right now. ❤

[@debbieatkerson5241]

As one who has multiple long term autoimmune issues, in the past I would fast, start feeling good, then return to my vegan diet, and quickly start feeling bad again. Then years later, I found Keto and then Carnivore, and Just Eat Meat worked great at first, but quickly stalled, even though I experienced some life changing benefits and I have stuck with it. This information is a light in the tunnel. Kelly and Amber make a great team in bringing things down to layman terms, making the science make sense. Fantastic interview! Thank you, Kelly!

[@thefisherking78]

It's funny how almost every time I read or listen to AOH I end up looking for some beef or buttery eggs 😅 Looking forward to the next installment of the book. Kelly, I love your work! You're so positive and inspiring. I always come out of these more motivated to be good to myself.

[@nicolenadia1]

Does anyone remember the “butter will make your pants fall off” guy from KZbin like 15 years ago? He’s the OG of the butter eaters. That was the first time I’ve heard of high fat.

[@chadmeir8220]

I really liked that guy.

[@CarnivoreLeo]

Yes, love Butter Bob!

[@seaspray9144]

@@CarnivoreLeo Is he still on YT?

[@jamesarnett4129]

​@@seaspray9144 Sadly Bob had a death in the family and he left the youtube

[@anul6801]

My mothers cousin ate like the Atkins diet in like 2001. It was basically Carnivore all the way back then. He ate meat no veggies because he didnt like em and he drank some milk. So macros was high protein medium fat low carbs. His pants fell of too.

[@lilliecarter4176]

Confession time. I was 0 carb for months lost over 90 lbs. I caved to pressure from my dr because i was told I could never be healthy without the meds. My bp was super low to where I was fainting. My glucose was in the 70s all of the time. His answer was eat more sugar and take the meds. I finally gave up. Now starting all over again with this info.

[@lindawalton3969]

What terrible advice from that doctor! Good for you though!

[@bobbilow2038]

Thank you so much for this Kelly. I've just watched SABG's video with the doctor and then this one and now I know that I can finally heal. 🙏🏻💞

[@whipitoo7]

Awesome interview Kelly! This was exactly the informstion I needed to hear& have been searching for!Thanks for always being my go to girl! Love you❤️🥰

[@laprepmayki]

I love the notes added on screen during your interviews 😅.

[@Susie-se4mv]

Aren’t they helpful! I love them too

[@Jeff.78]

I've been doing OMAD carnivore with intermittent fasting of about 24-36 hours, and had a stall for a month. Added more butter to my meals and the fat began falling off again. Fat satisfies your satiety hormone, Leptin. Not enough in your diet and you'll always feel hungry and possibly gain weight. I'm just happy my A1C has stayed between 5.0 and 5.4 over the last year🥳

[@247freedom]

Thank you for this! Nice to know I'm not alone in this problem and I'm definitely going to try this now. 1 year carnivore, no health issues except weight, and was about to give it up. Thank you Thank you thank you!!!!

[@happyferret7450]

This interview is exactly what I needed - I can't thank you both enough for this information!!

[@sagebay2803]

I just love your videos! I am glad you talked about the eating throughout the day. I have tried the 2 meals, but it never seems to work for me. If I eat smaller bites of protein/fat throughout the day, I feel more satiated. Now I won't beat myself up about it. Thanks so much for teaching us.

[@nealchambers2306]

Me too 👍

[@my-yt-inputs2580]

One of the things I picked up on in regards to protein intake is as we age the protein requirement goes up. This year I've attempted to up my protein intake as I'm in my mid 60's. My main issue is not weight however but glucose. 6 ft, 165-170 lbs. Recovering T2D.

[@celiaevans7822]

Thank you so much for giving ACTUAL examples of what high fat looks like!

[@violiendamast]

Kelly and Amber thank you 🙏 for this excellent video. I’ve been carnivore for years and although I have many benefit, I still struggle with high glucose, low ketones, energy and weight loss. I’m going to try this. ❤️❤️👍

[@HealthywithAmy]

I am a licensed Nutritionist/Fitness trainer-Also on low carb for 15 years. Not in ketosis most of the time.😊😊🙏🙏💪💪

[@ronbarber197]

Every time I eat lots of protein I get kicked out of ketosis it's called Randall cycle and I don't eat 1 carb.. carbohydrates are not an essential nutrients why would someone eat them ..oh but the government says and fake epidemiology studies say support your grain industry and vegetable industry so the smart people eat only red meat so the rest stay dumbed down and it's working tomatoes are no worth more than red meat the most nutritious food on planet and that's factual

[@dogcrazy25]

Was there a point to your comment? I'm missing the point.

[@DodgeChic69]

@@dogcrazy25 that you don't need to be in actual ketosis to see results and reep the benefits.

[@myzerocarblife]

On the flip side, there are people who have seizures if they don’t stay in ketosis. Or horrible bouts of depression when their ketones drop. As I said in the video, for some people (especially metabolically healthy people), they don’t seem to care if they’re in ketosis or not. But other people truly don’t have that luxury. When it matters, IT MATTERS.

[@DodgeChic69]

@@myzerocarblife I completely agree