Why Some Pokemon Are SO Overrated? *The GOODRA EFFECT*

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[@btfenton9]

This exactly describes back cappers - they remember the one time bailing on the ray fight saved the game and ignore the hundreds of times it absolutely cost their team an easily achievable win

[@arturoandrade8318]

This might sound dumb, but I believe bot matches are also a factor here. I'm part of a FB community dedicated to Pokemon Unite, and is interesting to see how many players proudly share their results because they for 20+ KOs and claim the Pokemon they used felt broken sometimes. Just to figure out it was a bot match all along.

[@spragels]

thats a great point!

[@FertIx26]

Yeah that happened to me once, I played my first game with lapras and I got like a ridiculous amount of kills and damage and I was like wow this pokemon is broken. The next game right after was a normal game which we lost and then I knew it was a bot match the first time

[@idunnowhatimdoin]

ngl anytime i see a braggy screenshot, 1st thing I do is go to unite api. 100% of the time, bot match.

[@bansilalnabediya3501]

Yeah, had 24 kills with absol one day. I was overwhelmed just for my friend to tell me later that it was a bot match 😅

[@onjaimusic]

Im in that community too, and its scary how many of those screenshots i see on the regular.

[@change2play]

Ironically enough Scizor is my main who I have realized I cope pretty hard with lately. I've had some amazing moments with him where I'm 1v4 the whole team just sustaining the whole fight and getting KOs. But then there are many more times where I'm getting CCd into oblivion and having no real value for the team at Ray. I find this theory hilariously true and I think I've been cured of the Goodra affect. Thank you Dr. Spragles

[@Corvothing24]

Yeah, I had to just stop playing him unfortunately when I realised all it takes is a single clefable for me to be able to use none of my moves

[@waklofa5181]

Goods just seems really good when 2-3 people are on top of it while it is fully healing with dragon pulse

[@spragels]

Yes for sure. And is really good in those moments

[@NinjaN00b717]

Yeah but when I 1v1 goodra on cinderace and feint the pulse it doesn’t seem so strong anymore lol

[@suyoshi9969]

​​@@NinjaN00b717me going muddy water

[@ellyjockey6164]

When I 1v1 the goodra with a curse item, the goodra doesn't have much fun

[@BelafonteSoNY]

Can sum1 explain y I can b in the middle of a fight then out of nowhere w/ health I'm spawned back to base? (& no there is no Hoopa on my team)

[@MedhaosUnite]

As a Scizor co-main, I think the blind pick environments play a big part in this. Sometimes you will pick a whole team of physical attackers or melee Pokemon like Speedsters and All Rounders, and that will be the one time you run into a Scizor or Goodra. Most of the time though, the people who think it’s broken are the people charging headfirst into it and feeding it nonstop without actually thinking about how to fight it - both Scizor and Goodra aren’t good for a reason.

[@dalampslayer]

The main case is when the enemy forgets mechanics. Such as Goodra heals if you get hit by dragon pulse, Scizor heals off bullet punch, Sylveon hyper voice more damage at tip of move.

[@moonblastx1996]

Playing Pokemon UNITE comes with Peak End Rule, because you keep playing it for remembering these fun and pop off moments while sort of forgetting that most games are pretty meh or even miserable and you can't find an ounce of teamwork or strategy in your team

[@Patafoin]

I think Machamp also fit this category. He his outclass by most allrounder, but his unite is soo strong that you get a huge peak when you land it on 3 poeple. it's so OOOF for the brain

[@kamenriderrain]

For me, the most overrated thing in Unite is when people hype ADCs like Decidueye and Greninja in lane. Stop the hype. It's way too overrated.

[@Dadbot]

Much like you, I used to think what lane ADCs played mattered. But it doesn’t man, not at all. I’ve seen bottom lane decidueyes destroy, I’ve even seen jungle Blastoise slay out.

[@VM-gy8bm]

I run central deci when I can. If I'm not able to get central, I swap to something built for laning. Team comp is more important than my main. While they fight over central, I'm usually leveled up and ready for objectives before they even get coordinated.

[@Wat874]

Yea but I prefer lane because they always fight over central area . I always never play central.

[@VM-gy8bm]

@@Wat874 stuff like deci is situational in lane. If you're against something like an Espeon, good luck getting out of that alive, lol.

[@karan9927]

Correct cindi Greninja are just useless clueless People just not ready to move on So irritating

[@nickmartin8027]

This is how i feel about Azumarill. I love Azu and there are moments where i pop off and i think that it might be as good as Metagross. But yeah Jake you nailed it it is Peak End effect.

[@rejoices1729]

Mine would be azu as well. With the guard item I’ve been playing a lot of whirlpool/play rough. It feels good when you isolate your swishy attackers left out to dry. But in reality I know I’m playing the sub optimal build that in reality is not doing all that much

[@I-am-ace-04]

I am azu lover I don't feel like this at all. I think its a good allrounder if you know how to get your crits. Most of the times enemy team is not that coordinated so it is easy to crit. On top of that it is easier to play in comparison to allrounders like machamp,lucario,mimikyu etc. Still I can understand your opinion.

[@arthurfourot5554]

For me, i have this effect on machamp, mostly because it's unite wich is probably not anymore one of the best in the game but still incredibly satisfying and can reverse a team fight

[@spragels]

Yes! Machamp is a great one because that unite can be so amazing

[@arthurfourot5554]

@@spragels still don't think he is low tier tbh 😂 I'm assuming completely the goodra effect

[@GroutMobile]

Me “Jake should make a video about goodra” *jake makes a video about goodra the same day*

[@customlol7890]

Goodra effect*

[@Pyro_Cinder]

This has been happening to me on Aegislash, there's just so much satisfaction of just melting squishies that even if I die I think "Aegislash is so good" Then there's the teamfights where CC is a thing

[@alexbryant3183]

This effect happens to me with duraludon. Had some truly incredible moments on it that help me forget about all the time I just get jumped on and ko’d with ease

[@Digital_Pickle]

I'm having flashbacks to the Rampardos Effect...........

[@darkiway]

I don't think you're completely wrong in a vaccuum. The Peak end rule is definitely at play, and it's an important aspect of game design, especially in this format. And this goes both ways : people will remember how peak it felt when they trounced an opposing team with a pokemon, but they'll also bear the scar of when a given pokemon annihilated their team and they felt helpless. This is, I think, where Goodra gets its reputation on the joint context of the rule and the format. Pokemon like Scizor, Goodra and Gengar, usually hit their massive peak in the most critical moment of the match : when the min 2 countdown hits and Ray appears. They are pokemon with the potential to completely reverse the flow and steal games that are otherwise helpless. Further, I think in the case of a pokemon like goodra, the bad win rate can be explained by the fact that many average players will stop playing for the objectives after they start feeling invincible, especially in solo queue. You see it all the time : Your team is crushing it, and the mvp somehow didn't make it to the big team fight at the end, ensuring your loss.

[@Runmindrun]

That’s what I was thinking if people only remember the peak of the Pokémon’s performance and their kit is made for their peak to be shown at the most important times (team fights pre ray and the ray team fight) then that makes the peaks high enough to make them as good as we say they are. (In the right hands)

[@romcade9908]

Yes you are right that scizor and goodra are good at team fighting, but the crucial thing to remember is that this is true only in certain conditions. The condition needed for these is that the enemies need to be grouped together, no long unstoppable moves, no stun etc. These are just too many conditions needed to be satisfied for a Pokemon to be useful. If there is wiggly or mime or blastoise you are doomed because of the stuns as you don't have anything in your kit to counter it and regain your momentum.

[@supermanclarkkent6084]

Sableye. I’ve been having this experience with it recently. I used to deny that is wasn’t dead weight after the nerfs. But I can deny it no longer.

[@yaccothetaco720]

Celebi is a bit underwhelming but when you hit future sight... damn it;s just so satisfying! *wakes up from a nice dream*

[@zderpydiamond4800]

I definitely spew a lot of Scizor hype as a Scizor main, but I also still frequently ask for buffs, because I understand that the character is performing quite poorly in this meta. I definitely have some Peak End Rule for it, but I've also used it to counter argue a Waterbear main that still thought Waterbear was OP after the recent nerfs, stating "Just because YOU can hyper carry with it, get 25 kills and double 100K, doesn't mean the character is good, it just means YOU'RE good with THAT character" I also mainly preach about the wonders of Double Hit, since really the only content creator I see using that move set is CrisHeroes, (who by the way, is the content creator with probably one of the highest opinions of Scizor, questioning if it was secretly B-tier at one point! Coincidence?) while everyone else always seems to use Swords Dance. While swords dance does high end screen damage, Double Hit feels like it can carry harder, and is sure as hell a lot more fun and addicting! It's just the feeling of flying around the battlefield, chasing things down that thought they were already miles out of your reach, whilst also never dying, and getting tons of kills! it's kinda like how Goodra is kinda a mix of a Defender and All-Rounder with it's level of sustain and damage, Scizor feel kinda like a mix of a Defender and a Speedster with Double Hit! Taking a lot to go down, similar to a lot of defenders, but sacrificing some of that absurd durability to get really good and quick kills on squishies, as well as getting the same kind of resets as most Speedsters!

[@davislee8159]

Now we need a video on the Duraludon effect ( *the underdogs* )

[@d-chudasama]

That is such a good Pokémon , it's the cannon

[@VeraExora]

Personally, I play a lot of Goodra. I make a big spectacle of it because Im a pretty good Goodra player, but I really dont think its broken. Im of the opinion that Goodra is way easier to play around for your team and harder for the enemy, and players that cant deal with Goodra (ie. The whole playerbase) are the ones that overblow how good it is. I just take advantage of everyone's perspective and dominate cause they're scared of me.

[@customlol7890]

Tho I recently got goodra and dont have that much playtime on it about 200 matches only and keeping in mind I play for fun Goodra was a good buy As you said that a lot of people dont know how to play around it and I can 1v3 all day with them If they do know it then I just stay with a buddy and try to tank dmg as defender Sure I die most of the time but if my teammate made it out or scored in the meantime then I would say it was worth it Now in the context of the vid yes I did have some moments where I felt invincible but I was aware it was only because of the opponent's letting me do it I would say I am in the same boat as you where we just play it for fun and actually use our brains to play it

[@NinjaN00b717]

I definitely have this effect with Lucario, probably because I mained Luca when he was so strong season 1 when I first got master rank… nowadays feels like I’m working so hard on lucario just to do 60% as much damage as dragapult just holding the A button lol

[@Corvothing24]

This is probably why I love mimikyu, not only is it threatening all game, (even if you are pretty squishy late game and have to really pick your engagements) it also gets the ability to constantly reset and hugely pop off

[@serily4524]

News: mimikyu top tier meta mon

[@Belesprit656]

There are three things that contribute to this phenomenon not mentioned, first one is some people aren't great at the game (like how a level 11 opponent destroys a level 8 team) second is your team lacks coordination (Sableye seems broken when he can target one or two opponents away from everyone else) the last one is lack of exposure (Zacian used to be broken, if you don't play Zacian and don't fight it you could still think it's broken). Thanks for the prognosis doctor.

[@swarooprg7935]

I really miss " that's the stack ! " Nostalgic

[@revansblade7778]

This might be a hot take, but I think Crustle is part of the Peak End Rule too. Yes, I admit its buffs have made it better, I've seen it in tournament play, but I'm not going to judge what I see from pro players to what I see in my soloq matches. Crustle players are back cappers, run away from team fights, and there are just better defenders and mons that do what it can do better. Its higher win rate recently is because we as a community forgot how to play against it because it's been out of meta for so long

[@spragels]

Shout out to Angry Void Friend for calling out the peak end rule on stream the other day!

[@star.crushed]

I always love these kind of videos where you give a depth to unite that I didn't know it could have :)

[@chrisesmenjaud]

As a new unite player I fell in love with Goodra as soon as I laid my hands on it, it's play style perfectly does what I need it to do and my preferred in the fray/tank role. But I must agree that fending off all 5 opponents and barely living for my team to come in and sweep as made me pretty biased and infact am infected with the Goodra effect. Goodra for life!

[@ashsmoke4199]

As something close to a Goodra one-trick (my top 2 personal fav mon period), I actually really agree with this video! I’m not too active in the community, but from what I see people really assess it by the sum of its moments rather than the average, and like Yeah I’ll fill the role of tank every game I play it, but to say it’s S Tier because of a single well-placed Ray 1v4 is absurd. Cuz I’ll have games where I flounder just as hard as I’d pop off otherwise. I’m choosing to bear the learning curve because I like the Pokémon, not because I think it can stand with the best. Well-researched per usual, keep up the great work! ❤

[@typeouetco1626]

I think you have 2 big categories of pokemons suffering from this. On one side you have hyper sustaining brawlers like goodra, metagross, scissor etc. where getting the exact timing and positioning right against the right pokemons can win you 1v2 or 3 because you always barely survive And on the other side you have assassins like talonflame (brave bird or fly), mimikyu etc... where you either get a super easy kill or die/have to run, so instead of 5 kills being a 5v1, it's 5 1v1

[@Boleinad1]

Can this rule apply to pokemon lile Buzzwole? I picked him up recently cause I got beat so hard by an opponent I wanted to try. And I've popped off with it lots, but also lost a lot of matches. Because its a high ranked pokemon, does this apply?

[@notstampgoat]

For me my Peak and Rule is Decidueye. I main it and feel like it's so so good. Cuz if you win your first gank or at least don't die in it, at your second gank you'll have spirit shackle and couple lvls above their lane meaning your shackle does up to like 70% of their HP in one hit. From there the momentum can build and it's almost a free game. At least... that's what I wish happen everytime. But it's heavily team/lane reliant. Your lane has to win and your team needs to have a good frontline or else you will just get folded very quickly

[@tigerstar1759]

exactly this

[@magmarxiogaming6717]

I picked up goodra recently and the one thing that I've kind of been thinking is how similar goodra is to roadhog from overwatch, simple gameplay loop to understand, significant bulk to allow for constant pressure and survivability, solid damage output and more of a focus on comboing offensive abilities with disruptive abilities.

[@AngeloMorto]

I always love you're vibe man keep up the amazing content!

[@user-yi4dm9if6m]

Tyranitar is this Pokémon for me. I don’t use it solely to keep my perfect win rate in tact (I also don’t own the license). So fun to use when it’s fully evolved.

[@Jaszs]

I’m glad u made this video Goodra is one of my favorite pokemon so seeing the win rate and the peak end rule is a little sadden but I’ve definitely experienced it lmao Still a Proud Goodra Main

[@SifatbhoiSifat]

POKEMON UNITE I got return gift From 30 December and if ended in maybe 12 January. When i would able to use this feature again? 30 January or 12 February return gift cooldown will be finished?

[@KeithSmerbeck]

Bro don’t think I didn’t notice that psyduck/team rocket anime clip. I see you homie 😊

[@OGRedness212]

I used to think Aegislash was broken, Aegislash is my favorite pokemon in the whole franchise not just Unite, because I always had these moments where I would get a quad or even penta kills all by myself with sacred sword and overall 10-18 kills per round. But after I got a little higher on ranked I was getting almost no kills with it, right now I don't use sacred sword and I am getting some kills, between 5-8 but now I realize he is not that broken or even that strong

[@muecke4909]

Yes I agree with you Aegislash needs some buffs because as soon as you reach masters, you will have a hard time against meta players

[@sadancorrea6335]

Best unite video I've ever seen. Damn, that was awesome man, congratulations

[@CN3891]

I learned something new today. I had never heard of the peak-end effect and I studied epistemology/philosophy of mind. Thank you!

[@TheTaleofowls]

What is a good defender or supporter

[@fogwzu1939]

As some one who just downloaded Pokemon Unite on my phone like a week ago, I just play Scizor because Swords Dance + Bullet Punch is part of my DNA when it comes to anything Pokemon related. Can't wait till Iron Valiant or more gen 9 Pokemon get added.

[@TiddleyWhomp]

This was actually really informative. Thanks for making this dude.

[@johnjohnel30]

where do you usually pull your win rates from?

[@akcnej]

I don't quite understand why its called the goodra effect Goodra to me, seems like a pretty annoying pokemon to go up against if you don't have stuns Multiple times I've had to just, run away from a goodra because they could just outheal my damage. I play umbreon as my main and i fail to see how umbreon is better than a pokemon with a basically on command full heal. Someone please explain to me how umbreon is better than goodra other than "he can steal shields".

[@SumireSakura]

have this with gengar. some matches popping off with minimum triple kill. and others just dying like flies.

[@mimikyuw2506]

As a goodra player, I can confirm this. I got huge damage done, damage taken and recovery with it but it is rarely seen. Another fact is that Goodra has poor range and bad Unite move (which I had expected it to be in unstoppable mode or last longer than 6 sec while the hp reccovered can be easily worn down, unlike snorlax). That's my personal experience. Goodra would be meta if one of its cons I mentioned above is fixed imo.

[@Prince_Spoopy]

Not the Gumball clips added! I love Hectors mother she’s so funny. Gumball aside. I think Goodra as a defender could use a bit of love. Scizor as well. They’re both these All Rounder/Defender hybrids and they need to stick to one role and not flop at trying to do both. I wish Goodra had more CC in its kit. Like better pulls or multiple stuns with acid spray. I personally wish Acid Spray marked multiple enemies and let Goodra dash and stun multiple kinda like how Lucario’s bone rush e speed works. To answer the question at the end of the video I genuinely fell victim to the Goodra effect. I have had more moments when I popped off with it than its actual winrate generally is.

[@Massiv3]

great video i love you not being judgmental 😂😂😂 to be fair in gengars defense i noticed games in ranked that have at least 3 attackers he goes crazy games with 2 defenders he struggles

[@rmgw226]

I love playing Goodra, and while it is possible that I am falling into the trap, it’s just really fun to not die in team fights, and it’s great to play it in casual battles when ur not rly trying

[@lemondope5352]

The last time i played PU, trevenant was the newest pokemon so I haven't played for quite a while, but i still enjoy ur videos. Even though i have no idea how pokemon unite works anymore.

[@standardnerds3435]

Mamoswine for me. I've played Mamo since its launch and gotten to master every season with it and I know that I've probably had more bad games than good. But the only ones I can remember are when I CC 3 people for 20 seconds and win the big fight by myself, or when I hold the opposing top laner at level 4 for what feels like forever because I just take all their last hits as swinub

[@Black_shadow_gaming22]

Hey spragles i am really confused which pokemon to buy mimikyu mewscurada or metagross ignore spelling mistakes

[@jolteonvortex95]

If this is goodra effect then what should we call someonw who is so good with a non-meta moves (like razor ace leafeon) and popping off like in a dominating way (i am one of them cause i use aace leaf and do around about 80k dmg per game)

[@Raisinair]

Sometimes I get peak end rule for inteleon, when your hitting all your snipe shots. I guess inteleon is pretty good in general but its these moments that makes you think it's much better. This video made me learn a lot, thank you.

[@slayamanabderrahmanenada8317]

but the problem is some people will think that this is related to skills , like someplayers see overlord using zoroak and do like a penta or a quadra , and they think its the "goodra effect"

[@Gtu2119]

Now i can clearly understand your tier list rankings, there are lot of factors to consider like last hitting etc....

[@dacrabmanthatnobodyaskedfo4071]

What i like about scizor and goodra are those moments where your healt bar is jumping up and down, its satisfying in a way and also very funny, in my opinion the sillynes of it all is what makes the pokemon feel powerful once the stars align.

[@bansilalnabediya3501]

Yeah 2 goodra's fighting with each other infinitely.

[@ardianas4196]

I'm not really into just maining 1 pokemon because I always try to adapt to the team synergy most of the time (that's why I always became the defender/speedster). But my soloQ experience tell me that I'm better when I'm playing Absol. Simply because he's a bit hard to catch, can Dodge skill shot, and burst squishy to Oblivion within 3s.

[@Frostfire26]

Anytime someone tells me how good dpulse Goodra is, I’m like “no it’s not really that good, it can’t do anything against ranger dps” etc. I’m also sitting on a 59% win rate with Goodra (mainly ranked matches) over 200 games. I feel like it’s mainly because I only pick it when my team has a lot of cc so it can actually get in close without people outranging and running away. I also use muddy water most of the team (but only if there’s a support on my team).

[@Zackattack151]

I’ve honestly always loved playing defender, he was my go-to defender and I find he is very underrated.

[@prajwalkr2196]

You should make more videos like this Spragels!👌🏻👌🏻

[@visaversace]

you could apply this to your overall unite experience as well as individual games. Glaceon comes to mind -- games where I've dominated have been so extremely satisfying, even though it doesn't happen as often post-nerfs I'll stick frequently pick them

[@estebanarias5558]

I don't think Glaceon is a great example in its current state. Right now I think its better than it has been before (icicle spear set) so doing bad with it is a choice. If you're talking about icy wind it may apply.

[@sei7015]

Glaceon isnt a good example... Because indeed Is Busted in solo q and in competitive

[@RamzaBeoulves]

Glaceon is currently one of the best Attacker and Center pick in both soloQ and organized play

[@TriStain69]

I'm not caught up with the updates and how good Pokemon are, but I feel like I might be that way with Aegislash? It's SO much fun to play and it's satisfying to boosted attack through the entire enemy team, but I feel like lately it's definitely been a little rough to play as, whether it's because of nerfs or because of other Pokemon being better than it

[@felipemarques2015]

The Goodra Effect most time applies to pokemon that can 1v3 in a match, but their weakness is that they can't secure objectives and/or sometimes don't have much of a presence in teamfights. As the last objective is often game defining, this could explain their lower half winrate

[@stephen701]

So here's the thing that I always stress: team composition plays a huge role in how a pokemon is going to perform. Lots of CC on the opposite team? Scizor is going to struggle, Goodra the same. Little to no CC? Those two can walk teams by themselves (personal experience). I just hate how tiers work when it's not a 1v1 game.

[@brandonsulyak5019]

Goodra muddy water acid spray is really good. Dpulse is just overused so it lowers the winrate

[@harikiran4339]

Cram was the only mon i was constantly refuting it being weak, even when it was nerfed.

[@idunnowhatimdoin]

guess mine would be chandelure. I can't stop thinking about the times I've straight up deleted defenders with a tiny combo and didn't even get to unite. Meanwhile I'm probably forgetting exactly how many times I've gotten destroyed by a basic attack & brought zero value to my team the whole match.

[@YouTwatcher27]

This might not be exactly the topic of the video but I wanted to share my recent experience to my fellow spragels supporters and Pokémon Unite fans. The recent matchmaking is the single worst thing that ever happened to the game. I’ve been playing since release and even through broken metas like zacian or mewtwo I always felt there are things you can do. But recently matchmaking has reached new lows. I get paired with afks or griefers in one out of three games. There is almost never someone who picks tank or support which constantly means I fill that role (what I usually do) which doesn’t give me the option to play the role I’m best at or what I would like to play/practice. Coupled with the fact that I have a win rate that is 10% lower in the current season than all previous ones is absolutely insane. I get matched with cinderace using shell bell, exp share and spoon demanding to go into the jungle or when I have one of 10 games where I get to go there both my lanes die constantly when I’m not there… I absolutely love mobas and have been playing them since dota and Pokémon Unite has been a very fun experience for me these past two years but I’ve decided to stop playing. Even though it’s a game and shouldn’t be takes too seriously I cannot deny getting extremely frustrated of losing almost constantly. Sadly I’m an attacker main and that means I am most capable of carrying my team if I get to play that role but without tanks there is really not that much of a chance and when I play tank the attackers I get paired with grief when dying in lane once or are so obsessed with getting stacks that they won’t group for any objective. I will continue to watch spragels videos and hope he will release videos about the matchmaking situation for me to know if I can consider getting back into the game but as of now it pains me to be parting with unite in such a way. Thank you everybody that has read up to this point and I’m interested in what your recent experiences have been like. Cheers

[@SasakiKanata]

For me, this case applies to Delphox. I see the opposing Delphox pop off, get my entire team fire-spinned, hitting the most valuable unite move and destroying us. Whenever I play it, I feel like I'm dead weight to my team, can never hit the Fire Spin the same way, waste my Unites, if I don't waste the Unite, it's kinda just there, barely dealing damage or such, etc. And I quickly feel bored from playing it, too. To be absolutely honest, I have no idea what the community's current standpoint on Delphox is, but that's one that comes to mind.

[@tigerstar1759]

I had this effect with dragapult, and then... well, I don't need to explain what changed lol

[@ivancruz8537]

Honestly goodra seems good but to me it's less of a defender and more like an all rounder similar to how scizor and metagross are meant to keep going even when you don't expect them too and I believe goodra is better as a secondary defender rather than your primary like actual full on cc tank

[@Dadbot]

Win rates are so severely overrated.

[@spragels]

Agreed. I need to make a vid on this also

[@manuelarocho8131]

Is leafeon still bottom? Because that was hilarious when I found it had a low WR😂 it was like Glaceon. It was absolutely a skill issue even with a point and click character lol..

[@LiveGoDaYDaYs]

let line up for Goodra pop off moment instead of walking away lol

[@OscarM77]

Hey can you tell me mimikyu vs blaziken which should I buy?

[@spragels]

I like both but Mimi is my fav

[@frosticle6409]

Greninja. I jungle and sweep a lot, then one game, a jungle stealing talonflame arrives, and proceeds to dominate me every time I unload my water shuriken on their teammates.

[@toallcameone3325]

While it may be part of this effect, i do believe that Garchomp is underrated for the roles that it fulfils. The first being an all-rounder (top laner) with heavy objective rip. A lot of the time, rip is left to ADCs/other attackers, and a few of the other meta top laners dont have as much rip (although they tend to have somewhat better secure) The second is displacement CC. Off the top of my head, Buzz, Trev, Chomp are the three big group setup mons (and to some extent things like Mamo and Garde unite). I think theres a world where Chomp gets a better meta slot without any changes to itself and nerfs to some other mons. Do i think its top tier now? No. But i do think its undervalued

[@marshtomp8]

Ohhh so it's like how people keep saying Leafeon is the best solo que Mon when in reality it has a bottom 5 win rate consistently every single week. I get it now!

[@Link898]

Aegislash and Crustle are my peak end rule pokemon. Dueling whole teams, demoralizing them, and surviving the fight make them my go to when I want to win. Even though my win rate isnt that much better with any of the other defenders or all rounders.

[@Adolf_Drippler505]

Hey spragels i have a question that doesn't have anything to do with the video but i honestly just wanted to see what your perspective or opinion or whatever is on it, but why do you think it is that the majority of people who play pokemon unite always do stuff like set their profile to private so you cant view theirs or turn on the anonymous setting so that you cant tell when their viewing your profile if its not private. I just ask because its weird i swear almost all the players i come across lately are always setting their profiles to private

[@XParasiteOctoling]

Personally I was under the effect of the Peak End Rule while playing Dragapult before the buffs, when Draga started falling off into negative winrate territory

[@Memington]

What is it called when a Pokémon/character is generally perceived to be bad, but it’s actually literally a skill issue and the character is powerful? Back when I played League, I was a menace with Heimerdinger. Even after the rework that was also a massive nerf, I was consistently outdamage ADCs by a significant margin (anywhere between 15%-50% more) and a normal amount of takedowns. I know total damage is not the end all be all, but such a significant margin can’t be ignored.

[@ciccio7663]

that's me with my main absol, I love playing it cause I love oneshot fragile carries but when I'm against a defender, man that's harsh

[@defiantbegaming]

I feel like this does 100% happen-- and also that there could be cases where people just click more with a build. I'm kind of guilty of it myself. I play a fair bit of weird, off-meta builds like Leech Life + Lunge Buzzwole, Barrier + Psychic Mime, etc, and find I do surprisingly well with them. But at the same time, I know they don't get picked for good reason. Barrier/Psychic Mime, I usually don't do too much damage but I contribute heavily to making my mages have to deal with lower special defense and i can control the flow of a fight heavily with my huge amounts of cc and barrier placements. I usually also run Reso Guard + Cursed Incense, so I'm messing with my enemy's healing and generating shields. And Leech/Lunge Buzzwole, I specifically build to be a pseudo-defender (high HP and survivability). I'll typically do as much if not more healing than the damage I can output, making it excessively difficult to kill me at times. It's really fun to see someone try and pop a move to become unstoppable to stop me from grabbing them... only for them to take the full brunt of the damage Lunge would've done immediately.

[@nix207]

I feel like I have this with Azu, and more recently, Gyarados. I don't go around telling people they're S-tier, but I for sure remember the best (and worst) moments more than the average.

[@chetanrover598]

I learnt so much in this Vid, it makes sense. Also one thing I learnt is Jake's Ex is Jessie, I only had heard rumors but this confirmation. Interesting video definitely

[@lifematters9732]

I guess I would need to understand what your criteria for a good Pokémon is then. The thing I love about Unite is how unique the kit and play-style designs are for each mon. Goodra does its job extremely well. The only issue is you’re dependent on your teammates to draft and play characters that can take advantage of its ability to tank. More often than not in solo-q, players just play what they’re good that and that doesn’t always lead to success. Another thing is that characters like Scizor and Gengar actually require a certain level of skill to perform well with them. Just because there’s a skill gap doesn’t mean they aren’t inherently strong. (I do think Scizor can be buffed back to when it was meta and still be balanced) But yea, I think this Peak End Effect is really more skill gap vs button clicking. Just looking at that list of win rates, a lot of those mons require more skill and understanding of how they exist in the game to perform well with the exception being Pikachu, and that’s why your supporters fight for the positions on tier list because most of these mons are better than their win rates.

[@gazrygames2481]

I play trailblaze meowscarada lately so every moment is peak being a scratchy kitty pouncing around. Idc if this build gets nerfed, it’s just so satisfying. There are games it gets totally shut down but sshhh we only talk about the peaks.

[@eddiethompson5403]

Definitely gotta be dive/slash cram for me. The thrill of popping in and out of the battlefield and getting massive heals off air slash. Oooo Mama 😮‍💨

[@nazmustahsanomi-b2795]

For me maybe it's going to be zoroark in the future, It was a love at first sight when I saw the potential of zoroark in the hands of a skilled player...Sometimes it feels so good and other times chain cc. But this feeling is not necessarily bad....If I can forget the pain by having a good play once in a while or more often, I think it's not bad especially if it's just a game

[@jared01c]

I feel like for me it would be Delphox (Fire Spin, Fire Blast). I played a lot of Delphox with friends around 2 seasons ago and had clutch moments, getting great KOs stealing Ray. Even though a lot of my games were trying not to die to to a Buzz or Trev and ending the match with 4 kills

[@play_fever]

This is probably why I main Cram. No matter what, I feel so confident going into a Cram game. I have those pop off moments and also net over 60%wr in solo Q. Has anyone noticed that Cram has no counters per unite API? (Only EX pokemon and then the next highest is opposing Cram). Man, I love Cram.

[@suyoshi9969]

Problem is, you can still perform better. Though I agree there is an effect, if you can pinpoint your weakness, you can use that to your advantage. As a goodra main, I expirement and do ny best to provide value with my pokemon. Goodra excels at damage, I rarely view it as a defender

[@kylegoodyear2951]

As a Goodra main, I agree with this. I believe Goodra is between A or C, I'd love to play different pokemon more often but I sadly lost my touch with all-rounders and the people who I que with always want me to run defender and especially Goodra because it has the ability to sustain in fights.

[@nicolomanfrini8671]

I think very often this also comes down to counterplay and game situation. It's probably fair to say that every pokemon is overrated by some people or a lot of people, and this includes the top pokemon too. A funny case is urshifu. Yes it got nerfed, BUT it for sure didn't go from the S tier best allrounder premier jungler at worlds that so many people considered it, down to unplayable garbage now. Perfect example. People remembered all the times when level 5 urshifu came down to lane and smashed them inside their flux zone, but they didn't remember when it's unevolved and kubfuu is literally impotent. I think the same of zoroark. People always remember the full combo that oneshot half a team, but they forget all the times when zoroark gets stunned by some random cc and gets koed in less than a second. Dragapult is on the same boats. And I think scizor too. All this pokemon have some amazing strenghts, but also some counters. Either they are hypervulnerable to cc, or they rely on having a supporter with them, or they work against certain comps. Hell, even flail snorlax has some times where if your team doesn't properly play into it you all get murdered. It's all about counterplay.

[@helios2206]

To me, Ttar had the same effect when the whole enemy team just couldn‘t defeat it. Yeah but as I get higher in the ranks it becomes more difficult with Ttar.

[@TheYoMandude]

I have two but the first is the inverse, so to speak; Umbreon and Aegislash. I feel like an absolute god as Umbreon but Umbreons I play against (maybe because I know what they want to do) never bother me that much. Aegislash I have never done well with and I always feel like Im playing some Top 10 ranked player when the enemy team has one. Honestly though, just about every mon can work as long as the team works. I feel like that is the part that gets people