Why some slow cars FEEL fast

Ever wonder why certain cars give you a rush while others don't, even at the same speed? Well there's tons of science and math behind why some cars feel fast and others don't. we look at the difference between Speed and Acceleration, the phenomenon of "Jerk", and how the manufacturers can even tune in a sense of speed. Everything from the suspension to the chassis, to the windows come into play. In this video we explore how much a drivers sense of speed can be affected, and just how susceptible our host Jeremiah really is to all of it as he tries to guess car speed while blindfolded.
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[@deusexbaby5555]

My car trying to reach 60 *This little maneuver's gonna cost us 51 years.*

[@forasago]

haha, I can hear the music.

[@fabian.a.p]

@@Tommuli_Haudankaivaja Do you miss the joke or something?

[@fabian.a.p]

@@Tommuli_Haudankaivaja You just said a fact, not joke.

[@aljon5947]

And also *This little maneuver’s gonna cost us 51k gallons of fuel.*

[@_Not_Retarded]

when you drive a land yacht

[@John-ms3zk]

Cruisin' at 55 mph on my snowboard feels like I'm going to break the sound barrier 😂

[@smallerfreeze]

I go down hill on my bicycle at about 30mph and I'm pretty sure hurts the sound barrier pretty bad but don't break it

[@John-ms3zk]

@@smallerfreeze Haha close, I'm sure!

[@Toki52]

Whistler's got some nice long runs.

[@LocoMan123]

Same with skiing It’s probably from the fear of knowing that if you hit a tree there is no chance of survival

[@kosycat1]

I hit 69 once at Killington on my snowboard as insane

[@zJoriz]

One thing I can add to this discussion: lane width on the highway can influence how fast you think you're going. If I drive on a newer bit of highway with wider lanes than I'm used to, I literally have to remind myself that yes, I'm still doing 100kph and yes, that still means I need plenty of braking space in case that truck right therOHMYGOD

[@lukasg4807]

Thing I never understood about breaking space is that no car is going to instantly stop in front of you. They still need to slow down themsleves if they break, so yoh really just need a fast enough reaction to start breaking, not to actually stop.

[@maximiliandeisz2961]

@@lukasg4807 well if they break first there also is a speed difference. they also might have better brakes etc

[@zJoriz]

@Lukas G The short answer: information and reaction times. The long answer: it's been tested years ago that your reaction time is about half the total braking distance. So if the driver in front of you notices something bad in front of him/her and starts braking hard, your brain in normal relaxed driving mode is not aware of this until your eyes register the brake lights, tell your brain, your brain tells your eyes to lock on the brake lights, the eyes send the info back that yes, those are really brake lights in your direct path, your brain tells your leg to start moving off one pedal and onto the other, and then the time it takes for your body and the car's mechanics to do what's needed to get the calipers onto your brakes. That's half the distance already gone. Even with sufficient distance to the car in front of you, your car will need to work hard to keep your crash stop from becoming a crash. (Remember that Top Gear braking distance thing they did? Yeah that was bullsh-- I mean 'comedy'.) The next thing: when a car in front of a close string of cars on the highway brakes a bit, the car behind it tends to brake a little harder to compensate for the cars being suddenly much closer (because of the already mentioned reaction speeds). The car behind that needs to brake even harder, the one behind that even more, etc., until cars end up stopping completely in a traffic jam or pile-up. Keeping enough distance does much to soften this effect, as cars are not 'suddenly much closer' -- you don't need to compensate -- and therefore helps to avoid traffic jams & pile-ups behind you. Finally, there are situations where the car in front of you does brake faster than its brakes could do. For example, when the driver doesn't pay attention and rams another car. Or spins out of control. In those cases, a good distance means the difference between just touching your brake pedal the moment you hit the other vehicle, or driving much slower by that point. In other words, the difference between potentially murdering people and a stoved-in front bumper. In an ideal world, you get the information about the obstacle the same time as the car in front of you does. In an ideal world, your cars are driving on a similar surface, with similar tyres, have the same type of brakes and they are equally well maintained, and no-one ever gets cut off, falls asleep, loses grip, has broken brake lights or spins out. We do not live in an ideal world.

[@rund3306]

Lane width anywhere like 1 or 2 lane roads u feel like ur going so fast but once it becomes like over 4 holy crap it looks so slow

[@extxyt]

Tbh the first time when I just bought my car and was going 90kmh on the German autobahn it felt so fast, but now im going 180kmh and it feels more slower then ever. Ik that if ur gonna go even 200 on cruise control then it’s gonna feel like 50 cuz ur body is becoming more used to it.

[@AmraithNR]

"A jerk can be responsible for sensation of speed." Well, duh. I'm controlling the gas pedal

[@andrewbelmonte-russo721]

🤣

[@dyltootalle]

Underrated comment

[@user-nt9oq1qe9y]

Lol, you can just control cars acceleration or velocity. Jerk is out of your control Mathematically: ds^3/d^3t (Dj:da/dt da:dv/dt dv:ds/dt) Jerk is the rate of change of acceleration. Take it as the difference between acceleration of time A and time B.

[@user-nt9oq1qe9y]

Your GAS PEDAL can only control velocity and acceleration.

[@akush42069]

Honda Civic guys be like: “feel speed?”, “I am speed”

[@iainbagnall4825]

20 year old beat-up honda prelude guys be like "Feel speed? I take speed."

[@jaidenbutler4930]

me in my 07 stock civic dx

[@andresacosta5318]

@@jaidenbutler4930 same. 08’ lx

[@thytor756]

James: LOW POWAH BABY *BAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!*

[@anthonygarcia1490]

ayyy, ‘97 civic with stick

[@SanLeMans]

It’s like what they say in the motorcycle community, it’s more fun driving a slow motorcycle fast than a fast motorcycle slow

[@Redslayer86]

Same goes for any vehicle

[@papatorr3669]

Um, car guys say the same thing, it's not a motorcycle thing. Coming from a motorcyclist sports car driver.

[@ithinkthatsmoses7922]

@@papatorr3669 😂😂😂😂

[@papatorr3669]

@@ithinkthatsmoses7922 Moses was a motorcyclist? 😲

[@stillybrings6251]

Just drive the fast one faster.

[@Xehemoth]

"Why do some cars feel fast?" A greater question is, why are they all Hondas

[@gaminginferior7936]

bro facts but im driving a 2021 honda insight so ? !!!!!

[@dangers-br6dy]

V-tec 😂

[@Miratesus]

Had this feeling when I went from a BMW 530D to the Subaru WRX STI. With the BMW I would cruise at 220 on the Autobahn and be completely relaxed, While the STI felt like I was going twice as fast at 200.

[@papilocsta5230]

Very true, even more when you have an old sti, everything makes a noise in the car and gives a sensation of going really fast

[@AngelRodriguez-gn3st]

Weird autobahn flex but ok

[@lightningbot85]

alternate intro: why driving a go kart at 20 mph feels more exciting than driving a cr-v at 100 mph

[@GyrateKING]

Driving my z32 at 32 feels more exciting that my girlfriend hr-v at 120 mph (jk i would never accelerate the hr-v over 60)

[@twibbytv2518]

i have a second gen crv with 250k miles and driving it at 100 is basically a death wish, fun af tho

[@rettkrome1597]

@@twibbytv2518 them older CR-Vs and Rav4s feel fun af

[@antreaskonstantinou8585]

A lightweight japanese car at 100mph? Thats probably suicide

[@stevo1977]

@@antreaskonstantinou8585 name that one the kamikaze 😂😂

[@wakandaengineer]

I'm a mechanical engineer and you guys conceptually explained speed and things associated with speed (velocity, acceleration and jerk) better in 12 min then an entire semester of Physics I in college... Bravo.

[@alexzanderroberts995]

As a freshman I can attest to this statement.

[@licenciadoleopoldocanoloza1144]

Than*

[@AsselParty]

@@alexzanderroberts995 omg I hope not

[@Rabiiid]

the fools said they werent gonna hear yet he clearly hears the dudes voice repeat the actual speed back. so why tf u sayin to plug ur ears and noise cancel out? then proceeds to say to much info is processed by him like soundof exhaust and up shifting and revving hen it was only supposed to be a feel test?

[@alexzanderroberts995]

@@Rabiiid wrong comment section

[@JohnsTinyWoodshop]

James May stated that after driving the Veyron at top speed he nearly opened the door while coasting at 70 mph. After going over 250 mph, his perception of speed was severely altered.

[@Luis-cr1tw]

If 70 mph feels slow in a normal car, imagine in a Bugatti

[@LuckyCharms777]

It’s like when you’re on a road trip and you’ve been driving the speed limit for several hours. Then after stopping for gas/restroom, once you start driving again, it feels like you’re crawling until you get back up to speed.

[@eirikhalvorsen_volvo]

Yes. This is so weird. After cruising in 120km/h for half an hour, 70/80 km/h feels like 30😂😂

[@beresarmand6058]

I constantly do 180 km/h on the highway for 1-2 hours, and when i go back to the speed limit of 130 because the waze tells me a cop is nearby i feel like i am going 50. And then dropping down to 60km/h to take and exist feels like 20 km/h. It's insane.

[@grqfes]

i guess its like practicing with a heavier bat or with 2 bats so that going back to the normal one feels lighter and easier but just done unintentionally and bad

[@Glaamdring]

The problem with the blindfold test is I doubt you're actually "sensing" what speed you're traveling-since, as you mentioned earlier in the video, you can't feel speed. I'd imagine what's happening in the blindfold experiment is that you're feeling the car accelerate and you're remembering the intensity and duration of that acceleration and matching that up mentally with your past experience with acceleration, same thing with deceleration. So the blindfold test is probably more of a mental equation than a "body sensation". Also, a car with stiffer suspension will let you feel more of the imperfections of the road at speed, which will also give you a pretty good idea of how fast you're traveling. Not because of the speed itself, but because your body knows what going over a bump in the road at 15 mph feels like vs 60 mph. So, it stands to reason that a stiffer suspension would be more accurate in the blindfold test.

[@nicolae-alexandruluca7853]

You can feel speed if there's no obstruction, or hear it based on wind sound, usually greater speed equals louder wind noise

[@lunascomments3024]

that is the point of the test.

[@bballguy4ever]

.. it would be a big diff if they did a blind driving test stick,only seeing the tachometer and hearing the engine and so forth …. But that’s a death trap

[@tonymouannes]

First, feeling the car shacking is exactly how you feel the speed. The faster you go, the more unstable it feels. Second, accuracy depends more on personal experience, because your senses are calibrated based of that. While more bumpiness can allow a better accuracy, previous experience is still th3 strongest factor.

[@lebronjames4705]

*"I'd rather drive a slow car fast than drive a fast car slow"* -Every Car Guy

[@OnEst_Opinion]

Easy to say when you can’t afford fast car lol

[@reemeruxd]

@@OnEst_Opinion i couldve bought a mustang but instead i got a 2017 brz for this reason

[@HondAcura111]

@@OnEst_Opinion I could've bought a brand new car or easily 300-400hp used car but I bought a clean RSX type S with bolt ons. Saved money/it'll actually last/waaaayyyy more fun.

[@maxwellkeeling3781]

Enter the fastest car in the world....>>>>> every car rental ever

[@CrucifiedinChrist]

@@OnEst_Opinion ok

[@proteinasaurusrexrawrimmad6649]

“You might remember my show versus, I’m sorry” yea that wasn’t the best but your heart was in it big guy.

[@marcoferreira3832]

I felt bad when he said that

[@squinto86]

I lowkey liked it

[@mattdouglas8900]

The show wasn't bad, I learned a lot on the Camaro vs Mustang episode. Made me like Camaros more than I did! I just think trying to score everything seemed unnecessary.

[@michaelpugh2617]

I think it was good, but it just didn’t feel right. They could have kept it going and let him get more comfortable in front of the camera and maybe switch up the writer for it

[@Calebguy13]

I think it would be a good show if they just cut out the arbitrary scoring bit. Like if the show was just a look at the comparison between two cars or whatever and there was no attempt to declare one as "winner" it would be fine.

[@remotecontrolaxe]

Good to know about context altering our perception of speed. It reminded me of how, years ago, in World of Warcraft, I found flying mounts way more fun when flying low. Now it makes sense that when flying higher up at the same speed, it felt really slow because I had all the context of where I was coming from and going to. Flying close to the ground at the same speed felt way faster. Cool how it rings true even in a case like that.

[@billwells6286]

Best video on youtube - I have an MX5 - your description makes perfect sense - I have always described the effect of a sports car as being the rate of information - I learnt a lot from your film - keep up the good work.

[@legion1te]

“...a loud exhaust, cut springs, and limo tint will make you less likely to speed.” -Jeremiah Burton Best quote ever.

[@alexisrivera200xable]

Its accurate too even without the experiment they did. Once you put all those on your car you are always aware that all the cops in your area are looking at you with tickets in their eyes.

[@cg7life357]

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[@oekfoh8684]

@@cg7life357 Bro 96 Corolla what a gem

[@ReclusiveRychu]

This is also why automatic drivers are always going way faster than manual drivers on highways, with less gears to go in to the car is much louder at higher speeds.

[@pauld.b7129]

@@ReclusiveRychu true 😂 in my Mazda 5 speed, if anyone goes over 70 I'm like "damn why is everyone flying today". Although my Subaru is a 4 speed auto and still does great at 70-80. That torque converter really helps with taller gear ratios is the other factor.

[@salvadorflores7438]

Its because older cars feel like they’re going to break down at high speeds and you get more adrenaline then driving a quieter and smoother car

[@alexk3469]

😂😂😂😂😂

[@RennieAsh]

Being lower to the ground would help.

[@alexk3469]

@@RennieAsh no it’s about what gear ur in how much torque and horsepower u have

[@RennieAsh]

alex k there’s many factors

[@superpork1superboy771]

@@alexk3469 he said it would H E L P

[@mikelarin8037]

This is my favorite show on the channel. Love your solo content Jeremiah

[@zackddog]

Great info, research and a great presentation. Love this kind of stuff.

[@xperia5295]

"Why some slow cars FEEL fast" with an FRS in the thrumbnail FRS Owners: *panic

[@Hijargo]

Nah, the majority of us accept our cars are slow on the straights, that's not where driving ability comes into play though 😉

[@Fury_BlackWolf]

Not so much about someone's driving ability when the car is praised for being good in corners, having low center of gravity and almost a perfect weight distribution as well

[@Hijargo]

@@Fury_BlackWolf wasnt saying it takes more skill to drive an FRS, literally just saying the straights dont take skill yet people are always after more speed.

[@micahcooper5005]

hahahahaha

[@4rche7ype]

It's actually the opposite. I interrupt non car people that go "hey! nice car!" and blurt out "its not fast". Some sort of PTSD lol love the little fucker frs tho.

[@Panahanda]

Stickers also help make your car feel faster.

[@LucasBell420]

Flames for extra hrspers

[@nitroustommy3668]

🤔My secret is...🕵 Hidden stickers.

[@nitroustommy3668]

But make sure you don't tell anyone...

[@matthew_natividad]

Eurobeat

[@setsunaes]

IF you car have V-Tec...

[@dyltootalle]

You casually dissing BMW had me laughing for quite a while.

[@karlwright1679]

@Jeremiahburgen enjoyed it man thanks for the lesson. finally understand the difference between a car and a suv now.

[@zacharybogle2473]

**Every Miata Owner Has Entered the Chat**

[@johnnymcnubs4527]

No lie... I have a buddy who added a turbo to his. He kept saying "I bet my life" that his car was faster than mine. Poor guy would be dead now.

[@thatcopenguy]

*Suzuki Cappuccino Owners Have Entered The Chat*

[@Dubnlove]

My mx5 is a damn rocket.

[@Tanstin1]

Miata nerds are mad cause the FR-S is better

[@jg5001]

@@Tanstin1 tell that to every automotive journalist. 🤣

[@CrashedCarChannel]

My '97 Audi A4 B5 at 30 feels like I' m doing 80mph.

[@Tuhopolttaja]

Bruh, the B5 had a fairly good suspension for its time, I don't know what the hell you're on about.

[@SkylineFinesse]

i know the feels. 2.8 owner.

[@hellarice5672]

Bruh mine when at 120 felt like I was in hyperspace lol

[@hellarice5672]

@@SkylineFinesse same

[@zacharypotter7160]

@@Tuhopolttaja after 20+ years, any suspension is going to be worn down really bad. And it’s an A4.

[@Duhnguyening]

Love the science. This is why I'm subscribed. It's good high quality car and vehicle content

[@SamM-gh5kd]

Really great and interesting work!! Good job guys!

[@theblooper9631]

"in a road car we don't want all that racecar noise and vibration" Yes I do.

[@amedematteo6636]

Exactly bud i was like "Talk about yourself!"

[@keisuketakahasi4584]

normal people dont want that on the highway... if you want that you can remove all your soundproof things on the door (weight reduction bro)

[@doktorsalami9315]

I don't

[@sirloin4372]

Hell yeah!!! I’m putting glass packs on all 3 of my cars! One is a 7.7L 472 ci big block v8 375hp 500tq!! The other 2 are 4.6L 279 ci all aluminum N*’s 320hp 315tq and 275hp 300tq respectively.

[@amedematteo6636]

@@keisuketakahasi4584 I strongly prefer the "racecar" over the "insulated bubble" feel

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Yes

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I will like this comment for everyday I see it

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Yes

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Honda Lawnmower joined the conversation. Stig approves.

[@waydagotc]

Thanks for sharing this! Super interesting. Went from driving an Xterra to an XB and I have to be sooooo f’n careful on the freeway. On a good day I’ll hit 50 on the on ramp and be breaking 80 by the time I merge. Like how?! Still trying to wrap my brain around the info dump here and how driving a smaller car has made me speed racer. I never experienced this driving around in the Xterra. In like 15 years of having one I got one speeding ticket - and that was due to being in an unknown area and driving into a school zone. Every time I take the XB out I legit feel like I’m in a go cart. Crazy what a difference size, weight and acceleration play.

[@vypersniper6756]

Very interesting. In my S5, I drive slower in dynamic than in comfort mode because I feel every bit of the road. More aggressive shifts and exhaust crackling remind me to let up early because I feel like I'm hauling ass. In comfort mode, the powerband isn't as aggressive, but the smoothness of it creeps up so quick. The road is plush and the shifts are seamless. Very easy to hit 60 in a 45 unintentionally.

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Donut media: releases this video Vtec owners: sir i feel atacked

[@aidenturner1489]

Can confirm

[@10kpeo10]

my Acura and I feel attacked

[@31blackflash]

As an owner of a k20 civic, I can confirm going 30 mph feels like going 50 mph

[@Fury_BlackWolf]

Says the guy with a VW profilepic.

[@sv_cheats1970]

@@Fury_BlackWolf #1.8t never lose (until people started to turbocharge the VR6)

[@100flyking]

"Or putting an M badge on the back" Shots fired!

[@christopherbanks1773]

NOOOOO PRECIOUS BMWs At least I still have my e36 325i

[@angelgjr1999]

@@christopherbanks1773 I like old BMWs, but have you seen the new one? Ugly as hell.

[@christopherbanks1773]

@@angelgjr1999 I love the boxier styled ones. With or without stance.

[@tonyb7615]

m's were fine until turbo's. the brand was fine with inline 6's. v8's weren't as bad as the m turbo's. most affordable german option that could be set up for anything but drag racing. they got way off the mark but were one of the last holdout's

[@tylerpoore97]

I feel personally attacked xD

[@davidfelipelozanozuloaga2131]

One of the BEST videos. Loved it

[@enekoprins]

I do quite a lot of Simracing and it is so true and so fascinating to notice that the better you get to know the car and the track (and I mean hundrerds of laps and many hours in) everything seems to go slower, but you are actually going faster.

[@thatgamerguy3057]

So if everyone drives a sports car we’re more likely to collectively drive slower? Interesting

[@OllamhDrab]

Kinda depends, actually. If everyone drove sports cars, more woul get more accustomed to be lower to the road and at least be better able to *handle* more speed. These crossovers tend to have so much ride height that the worst arses in town drive Nissan Muranoes, no kidding. Basically they have no clue what's going on, just 'feel slow.'

[@mrkazman]

@@OllamhDrab It also ties in to their personally acceptable levels of perceived safety. SUV's make people feel safe, and they tend to drive more recklessly until they're back in that band of perceived safety. Just like when you slow down because you feel unsafe. It's a lot more than just ride height.

[@meemdoggoriginallongdrink]

@@mrkazman I got a new reason why crossover is just goddamn stupid body type

[@Yambasetevo]

To formulate the same speed ratio you should get a loud exhuast to pop, coil overs to scape. Four doors are scientistificlly proven to hold more hoes.

[@alexvargasmorales712]

@@Yambasetevo lmaoo😂

[@donaldatkinson1428]

Redlining at 5 MPH in 1st gear, 15 in 2nd, 35 in 3rd, 50 in 4th and sitting like 12 inches off the ground made driving a 5 speed Geo Metro to the sandwhich shop and back feel like doing a lap of the Monaco GP.

[@jurvinesnard9718]

this should be too comment i don’t know what’s wrong with people 😂😂😂😂😂

[@bolson42]

redlining at 5mph lmao

[@mody1556]

bro redline at 5 mph i have 2008 Suzuki marhut 4 speed manual that redlines the first gear at 13 mph bruh 28 at 2nd gear the car only have 3 cylinder 800 cc that gives 43 HP engine

[@junkbob6832]

Man I'm going like 15 in first in my Saturn Sky

[@bballguy4ever]

I just got a Miata speed lol and this is tru I bang gears in a residential area

[@thomaswomack3888]

nicely done there Jeremiah, putting real science into understanding why some of the car culture things are the way they are is compelling material...I am of course already subscribed...if you ever need any help with this stuff give me a shout and a way to contact you...

[@Gam3Junkie7]

When I was a vehicle tester, these were some of the most important factors we had to grade. Because regardless of how a vehicle performs, consumer satisfaction heavily relies on the *feel* of the drive. A total clunker could still be a fan favorite if it feels smooth or fast enough.

[@farbodfatahi186]

When you floor it all the way to 4th gear in your miata and you’re still going 20 under the speed limit

[@colto2312]

but it feels good doing it :D

[@farbodfatahi186]

@@colto2312 sure does, best car to keep your license with

[@jiroweiler5883]

Then do a heel n toe downshift to avoid spinning... becuase those 20 feel like 80 on that lil miata

[@noahvs1999]

I'm going at least almost 90 floored out in 4th in my Miata

[@michaelmadden3012]

@@noahvs1999 🤯

[@1pfuller]

My Abarth feels exciting at 35-40, all while I’m getting passed by minivans haha

[@Ricardo_C]

Those things sound awesome

[@ipie13579]

hey its one fast shoe box. personally i can’t fit 😅

[@thunder4276]

And I think you are best friend of mechanic becoz they always broke😂

[@fraoul4795]

I'm 6"1 and I only have knee fitting issues but you can deal with it tbh.

[@user-gu1sz9vi9e]

@@ipie13579 you would be surprised I have a friend that's 2.10 and he almost doesn't fit in a mustang but does fit in a Toyota aygo

[@williamholloway2650]

Very Cool information on breaking it down scientifically! Anything that can give you Advantage when it comes to raising a vehicle is a definite plus in My Book!💯👍😎

[@hank41652]

Excellent. When I first got my C8, I consistently drove about 10% slower than in my 340i in the same conditions. The difference was somewhat less at highway speeds but still slower. That doesn't happen now although there is a bit of brain recalibration that occurs when I change cars. Great job!

[@alexanderrusev7707]

I used to drive a 1litre Toyota Aygo tell me about it. Every time I did 60 it felt like I was going 150+

[@davidalexandrowitsch4912]

I drive one as a pizza guy, I can relate

[@lucasvanhamburg4937]

I've done 140 in my peugeot 108(same platform)

[@Big-man-aman]

Because weight

[@hu5ky755]

I have 2001 Suzuki swift, 100 km/h feel like it's gonna blow me off the road

[@Patient_Lion_BS]

Dude I drive a 06 Yaris hatch with the 1L, 3 cylinder 😂 Just let it warm up and 2nd gear is potent af with 6.5k rev limit and 50mph top end and man it feels good, tho I personally have never gone to 50 in 2nd or hit the Rev limiter

[@ashtonfowler8469]

I’ve found that death traps also feel a lot faster than they actually are

[@local38on-tv]

Yeah you ever been in a Geo Metro at 40? Feels like you’re going 190

[@zosxavius]

@@local38on-tv try a GEO Spectrum at 90mph. I was certain I was going to die.

[@patrickmarriott4422]

@@zosxavius Yea, and it took getting up to 200 kmph for me to even start getting scared in a twin turbo subaru. . . No I wasnt driving.

[@nameless5846]

My jeep definitely feels faster than it is but it’s also a. Death trap

[@long_chin_man]

800 billion dollar speed machine: 90 miles=sneaking speed any car from the 90s priced at 200 dollars gone through 6 different owners and mechanics fear it: 20 miles feels like you just passed an sr71

[@antoniochorbadzhiyski3941]

awesome episode , really enjoyed this one !

[@GothicDragonX]

And this is why Subaru WRX STI are still so popular to this day, despite their engine having 280 HP. It just feels like you're going so fast while only at 40 mph, on the highway, you feel like you're driving a speed demon. But honestly it isn't going over the speed limit, just feel like a high-end luxury sport vehicle.

[@MindlessWanderings]

Just one criticism of your testing (for future reference). By giving direct feedback, saying what the actual speed was, after each guess you guys were adding a correction factor to the test. i.e. when a subject knows their error the subject can adjust to account for their perceived error and adjust their guesses to factor it (e.g. "Hmm, I think we're doing 50 but I was off by 10 last time so i'll guess 60"). This also means there was likely an element of practice too meaning which ever car was tested first will inevitably have a larger error that the second vehicle. If doing a blind test like that, don't give feedback, just look at the data afterwards.

[@MaximusLX]

@Jon Galt same

[@MaximusLX]

This comment is super underrated

[@dimitrijekrstic7567]

Yeah, this guy is right. You shouldn't give any feedback to your test subjects if you don't want to have an effect on their behaviour.

[@kentaur3]

I don't think he heard anything.

[@mynameispremo]

@@kentaur3 ... agreed. He had ear plugs and noise canceling headphones on. The feedback was for the camera.

[@nikki5499]

"putting M badge behind it." H-how dare you! *weep*

[@DrewGlenzer]

Meh, I bet these guys couldn't pick out an M car they wouldn't drive.

[@Wakabatan]

People who changed their Honda logo red to gain extra 3 hrsprs: 😭

[@dustinjames1268]

@@Wakabatan Nah man that red Honda logo gives a 10% torque boost

[@dahei870]

@@DrewGlenzer bet they could pick out a car with an m badge they don't wanna drive. Lol.

[@wotwott2319]

@@dustinjames1268 *twerk boost

[@Term1nator_]

I’m so glad this video was made because it gave me a topic to use for one of my English essays

[@anthonylove6639]

Very berry good! I like the sciencie stuff!! Thanks Donuts!! 🎉🍩

[@woahski4485]

my friend in school has an '99 civic coupe and everytime i ride with him, i swear it feels like an f1 car.

[@local38on-tv]

Just wait until you ride in a Chevy Cavalier and you hit 30

[@ezraa7777]

@@local38on-tv deadass love speeding in my cav

[@realeyes4734]

You need to ride in an actual fast car and tell me that civic feels fast. My friend had a civic with a h22 swapped in making a 5 second 0-60 and it didn't feel crazy fast .

[@realeyes4734]

@@ezraa7777 cavaliers are the worst car ever made.

[@ezraa7777]

@@realeyes4734 I mean I got my second cav for a couple grand with only 50,000 miles on it , has 125k on it and now and my first one lasted to 225k original engine and transmission before I junked it👌🏻 not the fastest but for a broke guy def a good cae

[@micklemons8885]

“More actual science” If only there was a garage for this... A garage... For science... A.... *science garage*

[@joseacuna3239]

I miss Bart

[@Bahle_Gaji]

@@joseacuna3239 dude 😪

[@massluca0078]

What happened to that guy he was great

[@pointbreak24]

What happened to Bart? Did he leave?

[@coolxennonparkour]

@@pointbreak24 He became a dad and never came back

[@georgefunes4535]

This was great content!!! Now i know why I feel so fast in my Astrovan! As compared to my RAM 2500 lol

[@zokusharuuku1091]

This is a lot of really great information that I can relate to! I only drive fast cars as fast as reasonably possible everywhere I go sorta as training to increase my driving skills but also for fun. The tickets are well worth it.

[@ultra.based.27]

Are you aware you can kill some innocent pedestrian by doing that?

[@marcusburger1523]

So if the cops ask why I installed that 110db exhaust I’ll tell them it’s bc I want to speed less?

[@ziqrsx]

Going 40 MPH in a Toyota Supra: meh. Going 40 MPH in a Daihatsu Mira: *oh yeah im gonna show you some real speed*

[@Ank3rman]

*Eurobeat intensifies*

[@vauxhallfan676]

You missed out to use your name

[@maartenvmaldegem]

As a Mira/Cuore owner: ever tried to hit 100 mph? You won't but it feels faster than formula 1

[@somerandoonline5852]

Marty has entered the chat

[@TastyGuava]

@@maartenvmaldegem underrated comment

[@thecarman3693]

Great video. Perhaps you can put to rest one of the greatest misunderstandings in the automotive enthusiast world, that being that a car that accelerates quickly does NOT push you back into the seat, even in the slightest. Instead you are only accelerated in the forward direction and never move rearward at all.

[@factoryrider9537]

When I'm going very fast I tend to notice that all the active thinking gets deactivated and much happens from muscle memory etc, also when close calls or sliding out (on a motorcycle) happen everything is slowed down a lot to a point where I've had way more time to react precisely than when I rewatch it on the video, its an interesting phenomenon

[@speedymarc]

But I think that this happens because there is no right focus in the videos, the whole image is in focus and we are the ones who see where we want to focus, when we review our own accidents. It's the same thing as when I record videos riding a motorcycle and sometimes I look at people's faces and in the video you can't tell that I'm looking at the person, etc.

[@grantsifford6408]

I remember Joey. He was awesome and was underrated because subscribers are so picky. this breaks my heart and I hope Joey decides to host again sometime.

[@MrZeepman]

Joey def deserves a new show, he seems like a cool dude. There were just too many problems with the VS series for it to be good.

[@MrZeepman]

@Xendex Motorsports the VS series could definitely make a comeback, however the point system he used needs a serious overhaul because it made no sense and the videos could be cut almost in half while still being entertaining and make the point come across. It didn't make it any better that they started with controversial subjects before the series was completely figured out.

[@matejzahajsky]

I liked it after they got rid off the point system. Every watcher could decides by himself, after what he heard about topic

[@gershwinfritz733]

Agreed Agreed!

[@owenbertrand7833]

Same he had a good show

[@worldofsports4426]

feeling like my 105 horsepower car turns into a 750 horsepower monster at fridays when driving home from work 😂 well that‘s fast! haha

[@31Fabsch]

World of Sports THIS! 🤣🤣🤣 feeling it

[@DannyECO7]

105hp? Pathetic. Mine is much better at 106hp. 😂

[@jatfifadestroyer]

especially when all the lights turn green brooo

[@worldofsports4426]

Danny Colón damn man, what are you driving? I gotta look for an upgrade 😂

[@BigWheel.]

Everyone with a 100 CHP car adds a few extra horses.

[@niknakz4339]

I have an S4 and it's absolutely mind blowing how it effortlessly goes fast, even in comfort. You can't feel the gears change and before you know it you need to slow down.

[@robertkelly8191]

Why are these guys just like my friends from trade school? 😂 Love the sense of humor great stuff I’m subbing for sure

[@Jeff-kr9jg]

I hope we see Joey more, felt bad when he had to apologize you guys really laid into him back then:/ The mans got a passion just like the rest of the guys and girls at Donut, and although the show wasn’t perfect I enjoyed it truthfully, Joey if you read this we love you man! Keep up the good work and thanks for being apart of what makes Donut great, and that’s having a love for cars!!

[@ellocogeronimo6013]

What exactly happened? I was a big fan of Versus...

[@ChrisvsTheInternet]

Agree, sure the show was a bit flawed but he did a good job as a presenter

[@BurnPerimeter]

@ElLocoGeronimo it got cancelled because a lot of people were sad that the car they preferred didn't win. I really feel bad for the dude because it was *his* opinion, but even tho he decided to cut the part where we says who is the overall winner, people still unnecessarily complained.

[@davinjacob]

@@BurnPerimeter where can I find videos on this? I feel like I'm out of the loop

[@shimeih2287]

I loved vs. was so sad to see it go

[@adamthroop785]

I love how Joey said sorry. People got soooooo heated about his series lmaoooo

[@josemaribunag7485]

LMAOOOOO MY ASS WENT OFF WHEN HE SAID THAT

[@declanwhite]

so glad that got canned

[@Churroboyyy]

Whats the backstory?

[@josefsan8769]

@@Churroboyyy yeah would like to know

[@moisesezequielgutierrez]

@@Churroboyyy Now you see, In many *(More like... almost or all)* of the episodes of their series; "Vs" *(A show from months ago about a comparison between two contenders of either Cars or Engines or Drivers, or etc.)* that guy is saying things that are either misinforming or "biased" or any other mistaken stuffs... and all of people who watch it, are so very mad at him, so that series received awful amounts of hate... so much hate that the show is cancelled. This is just my point of view and also my... uh... "opinion"? If there's any nonsense stuffs that you all read in my comment then I'm sorry and feel free to correct me.

[@KidNamedKuddy]

Really appreciate this video. Very cool

[@icost4671]

I Love Learning ... And you guys really packing some Knowledge . Wisdom entering my brain with the help of turbo boost !

[@marquiserichardson7490]

"Or by simply putting a M badge on the back of it" 😂😂😂😂 Killed me

[@user-uu7fe9wi2k]

Saw this comment just as he said that, killed me to

[@mtndewhirst]

"We DoNt wAnT tO bE BoMbArDeD wItH RaCeCar FeElInGs aNd NoIsEs" Correction: Thats exactly what I want in a car

[@DpRD_DucK]

In a family SUV? I doubt that.

[@cr3atur321]

@@DpRD_DucK maybe not an suv. But most other regular cars

[@mannyorozco842]

@@DpRD_DucK I don’t want a family SUV

[@Studio-IV]

Y’all need to just get a Camaro SS or Corvette, they give you comfort and race feel very well balanced

[@mtndewhirst]

@@DpRD_DucK @Stapleton42 made his family SUV into a race car, so why not?

[@brandanzhu5304]

If you are in a rolls royce or Bentley, going 70- 80 might feel similar to driving something with worse road, wind, and engine insulation while driving at around 30-40.

[@konezodt]

Crazy, 7:13 thats Nottingham canning circus never thought i'd see my hometown in a Ford demo video on an American channel 😆

[@osvaldodomingos9041]

"We don't want be bombarded with race car noises and vibration" - Sorry, we?

[@squirtlejim8727]

Racecar or no car.

[@MugiwaraElvin]

@@squirtlejim8727 I agree

[@markrayes2973]

😂😂 same soon as i got my E60 i went to work to make the sound audible, dampening panels , mufflerd , resonators etc

[@chrislinden1884]

He said in a minivan the average demographic for a mini van isn't gonna wanna racecar

[@squirtlejim8727]

@@chrislinden1884 racecar or no car. Demon swap a grand caravan or walk.

[@i.b.9946]

5:42 That "M badge" roast though! XD

[@GlorifiedGremlin]

Newer Mazda 3s are really good for feeling fast when it's actually slow. The sport mode is so damn fun

[@JmK_Music239]

fr my dad has a 2021 mazda 3 sport black edition and it feels fast af even though it only has i think around 160-170(?) hp

[@wytfrog]

Mo' Science Babeh! Seriously, you guys have great explanations, I use your videos with my students.

[@laidback93]

"It ain't about the size of the boat. It's about the motion in the ocean" Signed, stock M20 E30 owner

[@aconstantdread5677]

M42 here bro, I feel this

[@bryanjudefernandez2195]

n54 e92 owner here

[@chronicbeans9689]

Co signed, Bugeye 2.5ts owner

[@devinwalton408]

E24 owner. Not only does it feel slow, it is!

[@bryanjudefernandez2195]

@@devinwalton408 which variant ? plus that car was fast when it first came out. the fact that it still drives today is already impressive

[@PaleOrchid]

Fun fact: When you notice pedestrian very front of your car, any car will feel fast.

[@SssagaBenches4U]

Lmao, very true!

[@varunsoni6408]

Good observation 👍

[@reubenx]

true

[@aldotrujillo9404]

why do i always find the best videos when i’m not eating

[@12fishcake]

This is interesting coming from the view of my fairly basic sim racing setup (I have a vr headset, pedals and a wheel with force feedback, no motion chair etc) If I'm going at like 80mph, physically it feels pretty calm like I'm chilling along at 30mph or so. If I send it at 200mph, the difference is certainly noticeable but far from the forces you'd feel in a real car. Being lower to the ground also amplifies this, much like when you are high up in an airliner it doesn't feel like you're going nearly as fast as you are in reality. The wheel tries to mimic some of that force and it does work to an extent with force feedback. With a "harsher" feeling car you feel the speed way more than a very smooth ride at the same speed. As you accelerate and the vibrations and feedback ramp up it does feel more like you're pushing forward a lot more even if it's actually the same as a smoother ride. Same goes for a louder engine/exhaust, the roar as you hit the gas adds to the feeling of giving a big push. Of course in my situation you have zero G-force involved and that is a huge factor when compared to fancier rigs or real cars. However, this does help narrow down what other factors come into play in terms of the sense of speed. I find the lower you are to the ground and the more feedback you get, weather physical, visual or auditorily all adds to it in its own right. When you get into the realms of motion seats and wind simulation, this adds a LOT too and gets extremely close to reality, but far from my budget haha. Also interesting side note, racing in the rain adds to the sense of speed a lot for me too - hitting a long straight and seeing the rain glancing of the windshield faster as you go seems to add to the feeling also.

[@lemanchance7927]

I reckon we should give Joey one more chance hosting a show. Such a humble dude he is.

[@1314CK1]

Agreed.

[@peppermaker5227]

He seemed to biased to host the show

[@zaidizainal2495]

@@peppermaker5227 it is his opinion. He just share his. He didnt generalize it for all of us.

[@andrewmartens9323]

What happened in his show?

[@caidenmcbride2928]

Yeah what he do? Lol

[@JohnVillalta]

I think that the phenomena due to the lower riding height is due to the fact that you're closer to the ground so the 'movement' of the floor relative to you seems greater. Compare that to riding in a plane, you're super far from the area you're traveling across but you're traveling at high speeds. I think that concept applies to higher vehicles vs lower vehicles

[@nikostalk5730]

The answer is simple. People having a fisheye lens/optics. It is distorted like a barrel roll effect. And you have a motion blur effect due to low data updates. It helps in speed detection. Since you have to watch in straight line while driving, you will have issues with blur due optics. While object is far from you AND you reaching it for long period - it will feels like driving slow If object is closer to a viewer, and changes fast - it will feels like a fast moving pace. Also, we have a phenomena of "constant speed", it is a brain "energy saving" issue. In a very short terms, brain don't want to process info every single second. The moment when everything around you stills the same - brain skips, no needs in updates. But, our brain is trained to detect changes in environment, and very fast processing it. Like: Drive 5-7mph, and then instantly go 20-30mph - brain will instantly say "wow, danger, stop!" But the same thing - for a high speeds. Drive 100mph for a 1 minute, it will be "stop!". Drive 5-10mins - it will be like 40mph. But the moment you will reduce speed from 100 to 40 - instantly feels like 5mph... But that's only while looking straight forward. Look to sides, and bang, you will know actual speed. Also try the same with looking straight down on a road from a passenger seat.

[@nicolae-alexandruluca7853]

I did this in a shooter game, had the same movement speed for my character but I modified the height, from 6ft2 to 7ft2 the diff was insane in terms of speed

[@t3hgr8gabbo]

Yup. This is why the Civic EF hatch is so popular; when you can see the ground 3 feet in front of your bumper, everything feels fast.

[@traofficial0015]

Yeah like I was going 130mph on a train a few weeks ago and it felt like not faster than 60

[@bluceree7312]

This guy is good. The best part of Donut.

[@TadhgerLily]

I like how he explains the kinematics physics all in one KZbin video that I had to spend 2 months learning

[@cervidae3359]

"you might remember me from my show versus, and if you do, I'm sorry." F

[@user-ny5vl9hp3e]

Big F

[@jamesphelps3409]

F

[@the_real_bromel]

F

[@drewziebeast1439]

Never liked his show. He always said some dumb crap about the better side💩

[@C4_stephen]

F

[@Skilan506]

Poor Joey! All he did was being a fan boy xD I mean I didn’t like the show either but I didn’t like the whole concept and felt actually kinda bad for him.

[@FadliDue]

yeah he didnt need to apologize :( i felt bad as well

[@vbdulrahim]

I liked the show tho....but I knew it won't last long

[@Adrian-ey1bv]

My thoughts exactly. People are being too mean to Joey. Seems like a cool guy just like everyone who works at Donut.

[@dma968]

Let's keep it a buck. The only reason his show was cancelled was because he felt Bugatti was a better company than Koenigsegg after that everything he did was heavily criticised for little to no reason. Honestly I like Bugatti more but for different reasons than he specified but I give him mad respect for being able to say there was a winner rather than just leaving it as a tie then saying u decide on the comment section however I feel no matter what so long as he said Bugatti was better there'd be a huge dislike ratio on the vid

[@rowanrix5589]

Seems like a cool guy it just was the right show

[@fanisgelis9980]

Good video, very educational, point proven. Though, I still like how my '05 Nissan micra feels like a little race car

[@cwalkinmark]

i miss my xb used to take that thing through the mountains like i was in a gtr. the gearing felt really good. in my mind xb will always be a racecar HAHA

[@TheRealGlizzyman]

Jeremiah needs another show. I would like to see more of him, very knowledgeable person. Keep it up man.

[@JoshuaMcJunkins]

Officer: Do you know how fast you were going? Me: *Plays this video*

[@issacflores9278]

Speeding tickets no more

[@009fly]

literally!

[@norvillerogers6110]

@@ericolens3 You must be the life of the party

[@erox1992]

Here in Brazil there are buses with air suspensions and spring suspensions. With air suspensions you don't feel you are going fast because with the air suspension you can't feel the road bumps. With spring suspension you can feel all the bumps and the whole bus starts shaking at high speeds.

[@Ryanisthere]

i think that openness is one of the biggest factors, with being low to the ground in second i own a motorcycle and it feels completely different than a car in terms of speed

[@teme5529]

So thats why the high crossover drivers speed like maniacs.

[@nodsib]

Omg, so true, I always see middle-aged ladies often even with disabled placards in the window flying like 30 over the speed limit in those newer raised crossover type cars

[@noland5345]

@@nodsib my mom is that lady I always say to her “your car feels way slower than it is”. One time I turned onto the highways from her house going like 20kmh floored it to 120kmh she didn’t even notice just kept looking at her phone 😂

[@bulletclub4life]

@@nodsib they said "high" as under the influence, cuz their perception of speed decreases.

[@alienturtle1946]

Golf cart drivers too. In my neighborhood those mfers are out to kill or be killed, stop signs aren’t required or even recommended, but just a mild suggestion for those geezers who think they’re still 20.

[@lachlanokeefe8020]

So that's the reason all of the people in pickups drive like idiots on the highway, they FEEL like they are going 60 when they're actually going 75. Isn't that right.

[@Sheridantank]

I get passed by lifted jeeps doing 90mph all the time. Like death wish much?

[@flexnlexus129]

I am a victim of this the trucks with big a** tires mess with the speedometer mine is 10 mph off so from doing 70 actually doing 80 really confusing 😅

[@xm210c]

@@flexnlexus129 Put the right tires on that the vehicle is rated for and speedometer is calibrated for.

[@Sheridantank]

@@xm210c That’s kinda a dumb answer considering they probably chose the larger tires. A better answer would be to explain the only reason that should be is the wrong size tires and to just keep the difference in mind. They also can be adjusted or replaced with other speed sensors depending on the vehicle. People who want big tires want big tires. I think it’s dumb on a daily after a certain point. To be 10mph off, they’re probably pretty big.

[@countrydrift5500]

Well 90 is 70 in Texas

[@MrPrajitura]

AHAHAHAHA Donut puttin an ad inside their in-video ad is just so meta !! =)))

[@charleslau5814]

Nolan really got his whole face painted for a one-liner, that's dedication

[@llama_wehraboo7274]

3:58 don't apologise mate, we miss you.

[@ian-kz3mb]

Ye he was good

[@catintensifies]

I don't get why he's apologising/what the hate is about

[@NickolitheSpartan117]

The show wasn't perfect but it wasn't his hosting, it was the shows formula. It was to biased which made people who disagreed annoyed. If they re did that and then left it up to us to vote in the comments and then told us the results at the beginning of the next episode it would have been awesome

[@jagger2001]

@@NickolitheSpartan117 agreed. I like that at the end they stopped having the points and just showed how the cars or whatever differed and didn't draw a conclusion so that the viewer could decide which they liked better. If that had done that from the beginning it might still be around

[@Rizky-xv4kz]

@@NickolitheSpartan117 what show? Did I miss something?

[@TheDesiDragon]

I can agree, driving a go kart 40 mph is absolutely exhilarating and also terrifying. 10/10 would do it again.

[@shanepurcell8376]

Driving a tractor at 30 feels like a death wish

[@DennyBalance]

I went 32 on a bird / lyft scooter in San Diego. Almost ate shit

[@user-wq9mw2xz3j]

nah, but 60 is enough

[@venomvideos855]

I occasionally drive a yamaha chappy 1978 moped 1hp. At 20mph it feels like a car in 50mph

[@unidentifiedbipedallifeform]

This kind of explains why when I'm driving to work at 10 over in my car there's almost always some new suv or truck behind me trying to eat my bumper.

[@SynthetikzDoPe]

170 kph in my old corsa felt like a space shuttl entering atmosphere while 170 kph in my e90 320i feels really comfortable