Why some teachers in America are learning how to fire guns

Gun crime in American schools is increasing-but does training teachers how to shoot make classrooms any safer?
00:00 - Is arming teachers the solution?
00:50 - Meet the teachers learning to shoot
01:55 - Why they want to learn
03:17 - How effective is the training?
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[@danjohnston9037]

These are the same teachers NOT trusted with picking the books ?

[@m.a.b.4104]

Full respect to the teachers involved. Shame on political leaders and lobbyists preventing real change.

[@backto-il9ne]

Nothing to "respect" about this depressing situation. Teachers should NOT have to resort to this.

[@Jhoekstra]

I AM a teacher. The question about teachers learning how to shoot is mind blowing. In order to shoot, you have to carry a gun. So now you have a teacher carrying a gun inside a school. And that will never cause problems?? If you ban guns, teachers don’t need to learn how to shoot. Disarming people is the answer.

[@mobilusinmobili8321]

Youre not disarming anyone.

[@containedhurricane]

Firearms are available like candies, to be bought by untrained/ mentally-ill/ ex-convict/ alcoholic people and stolen by violent criminals

[@S1D3W1ND3R015]

So thid is about banning guns and not "common sense laws" hmmm. Saying the quiet part out loud eh? Our conspiracy theories are getting less theoried now. Also have fun with that. Never going to happen.

[@santiagopavon1622]

What about politicians and American society addressing gun control and violence first ? A teacher needs to teach, not be a security agent.

[@gordo3697]

My problem is very few take profeciency and saftey seriously. One box a year shooters are dangerous

[@ivanpb1983]

I'd never send my kid to a room where a underpayed stressed person prone to anger carries a gun -no f*cking way.

[@mobilusinmobili8321]

So you stay out of the inner cities?

[@ZakFR]

But that same person is perfectly safe and trustworthy without it? When that person who is twice the size of your child still has their fists, feet, sharp and blunt force objects, the ability to emotionally abuse and humiliate, you're okay with sending your kid to that room then? And what would be stopping this boogeyman of a teacher from carrying a gun into the school illegally in the first place? School shooters certainly don't have a problem doing it. If they're willing to give up their job, their freedom, spend the rest of their lives in prison, why would they be worried about making sure that the gun they shoot their student with be *legally* carried?

[@72soldmilehigh67]

You mean like an active shooter entering a school? I’d rather my kid not be defenseless.

[@NicholasDunbar]

I have so many questions. Is the training required? Does the school have standards on safe storage of weapons? Are their published for having a weapon in a school without the training or not following safety protocols. Are the guns stored in a place we're students can't find it?

[@Sierrawavemp4]

no, no, no, no, no, and no

[@mobilusinmobili8321]

​@@Sierrawavemp4 Proof?

[@Sierrawavemp4]

@@mobilusinmobili8321 reality itself

[@keonyang3332]

Q: Is the training required? A: It depends on the schools district (city or state) but for the most part no, because there is no funding or support for it. Extra note: Surprisingly Oklahoma provides lots training to teachers who choose to have a firearm while on school grounds, and it also requires teachers who want to have firearms there to have to undergo security guard training. Q: Does the school have standards on safe storage of weapons? A: On the state level it depends some schools or school districts may have them but there is insufficient evidence to say as this topic is barely reported on. Q: (I think this is a question, I may be wrong) Are their published for having a weapon in a school without the training or not following safety protocols? A: Again, it depends on the state or school district. Go up to the note on Oklahoma as an example. ↑ Feel free to ask more.

[@keonyang3332]

@@Sierrawavemp4 You are giving extremely over generalized answers to such a complicated issue, that is very ignorant.

[@houseplant1016]

No amount of money could convince me to come to America💀

[@Crazy24646]

who cares

[@savagepro9060]

@@Crazy24646 I do

[@alexkhorne7733]

It depends on your starting position. a lot of People around the globe earn 10-20 times lower salary than in the US. It makes difference.

[@monkayy4289]

@@alexkhorne7733 and the living expense is also 10-20 times higher, your point?

[@houseplant1016]

@@Crazy24646 your mom and savagepro9060♥️

[@d1427]

how about the teachers learning how to teach against violence of any kind, rather than being only instructors?!

[@ownzuall]

I must admit that the thumbnail reminds shooting squad from the past especially with the black and white color. At least of the first 1-2 seconds until your brain realizes its a gun shooting range.

[@haveaseatplease]

'Merica Yeah! Guns before teachers Yeah!

[@user-uh1qt5rp5p]

Policymakers should adopt a more cautious attitude towards the problem. Maybe there is still a better solution on this problem instead of just using violent method against violence.

[@QwerYT4819]

wrong, violence against non-violence never ends well

[@alexandrinobruno]

Pensa numa espécie que deu errado..

[@felixbohm7247]

The US is just such a sick place

[@robwyyi]

This is one many reason why teachers are leaving and new potential teachers are not turning to the profession. They just want to teach. Not have to be the last line of security, being in the fore front of culture war, and many other things that has no part of teaching. If you don’t want to lose teachers don’t add to what is already a heavy work load.

[@ZakFR]

These teachers are willingly doing this. This is not some mandatory armed training they are getting. The ones who want to be armed can be armed, and the ones don't, won't. I agree that mandatory arming of teachers would be a bad idea, for the exact reason you state, but that simply isn't what is happening in this video.

[@keonyang3332]

I agree that teaching has somewhat become a dangerous and very stressful job especially in the past few years, but this is what happens when issues aren't addressed like for example the proposal of have armed guards or just a school resource officer, or the gun control that as not been working for the past 89 years.

[@somanytakennames]

@@ZakFR The fact that any teacher feels the need to arm themselves is a massive problem. This is not the solution to America’s problem with school shootings.

[@S1D3W1ND3R015]

1. It's willingly. 2. Part of your job as a teacher is the safety of your kids 3. Why not get trained and use the most effective tool to take down a threat.

[@robwyyi]

@@ZakFR really your applying something “mandatory” thats not in my comment. That pretty much sums your reply. Off base

[@annebolduc6395]

This is beyond crazy… and scary

[@NishkaamKarm]

Why not build school inside police station? Or making Police Officers teacer?

[@casbot71]

Armed teachers will at least make Parent/ Teacher night more civil.....

[@mwswarrior]

Well done to the teachers who are taking the initiative to be trained and become the deterrent that is needed. Thank you from a parent and prior teacher.

[@joqqeman]

Yeah this is def the solution... 🙄

[@somanytakennames]

How on Earth is teachers arming themselves a REASONABLE solution to this?

[@jackbardenpromotion]

@@somanytakennames because its not going to improve from any other means. Any little helps.

[@slygg]

Yes because deterrents have worked so well in the past.

[@mwswarrior]

@slygg What deterrents have been used for school shootings?

[@atenas80525]

Sensible gun control policies? How about sensible mental health policies? Get dangerous people off the streets!

[@backto-il9ne]

Here's a revolutionary idea: how about doing both

[@dylreesYT]

I found almost all of this video totally useless but the argument by the sheriff at the very end changed my mind. Most of this sounded like the NRA's dream but if teacher's are going to bring guns into the classroom- which again should be illegal anyway, this is an extremely small help toward preventative measures. Let's not forget, a person who takes up a job to help children is almost never going to shoot one.

[@JeffBilkins]

Does the school have liability coverage etc for when a teacher shoots someone who isn't an active shooter?

[@glhmedic]

Like a student acting up and being disrespectful.

[@ElSantoLuchador]

More importantly, do they have insurance to support the teachers family when the teacher is lying dead on the floor in a pool of their own blood? People seem to think guns make them invincible. They do not. Being a hero after third period algebra class isn't the likely outcome. The odds of being shot goes way up.

[@catmonarchist8920]

Kids will be a lot more polite in future.

[@savagepro9060]

kids have guns too

[@alexcampbell6745]

To cancel your subscription, The Economist forces you to chat with an agent or call their toll-free line. Then they will ask you multiple times to try various offers for ten minutes before FINALLY canceling your subscription. I will never subscribe to The Economist again!

[@bluedragontoybash2463]

Summary of this video - Thistle Gun Range in Utah is hosting a training course for teachers on firearms. - Many teachers are participating for the first time, aiming to be prepared for potential active shooter situations. - The narrator, a former teacher, expresses mixed feelings about the idea of guns in schools but understands the need for protection. - Teachers in Utah can legally carry weapons in schools, prompting some to undergo training for safety. - The course involves not only shooting skills but also strategies for dealing with active shooters in a classroom setting. - The hot house scenario includes teachers navigating through rooms with potential threats, simulating a real-life situation. - The intensity of the training is evident as participants show signs of fear and shaking hands. - The training course has been running since 2019, with a waiting list, highlighting the perceived value of such preparation. - The sheriff, who organized the course, emphasizes the importance of proper training after encountering weapons in easily accessible places during a hoax incident. - The video concludes with a note on the ongoing debate about arming teachers and the potential necessity in the absence of comprehensive gun control policies.

[@johnransom1146]

Seriously, it’s come to this?

[@ZakFR]

To all the people saying "what if a teacher gets angry and uses the gun on a kid!", if you genuinely think that is a possible scenario, then we need to be reconsidering who we're hiring as teachers.

[@Greatduck777]

I mean, there was a teacher who killed someone and killed himself in a police standoff, he also threatened to hurt a student.

[@ZakFR]

@@Greatduck777 Right, so that person shouldn't have been a teacher in the first place. That's my point.

[@yoshiwoollyworld]

⁠@@ZakFRwhat about in 2000 when a 6 year old shot dead his classmate or 23 years later when another 6 year old shot (without killing) his teacher? Do you believe these incidents won’t be repeated if teachers could bring guns?

[@hermitey]

NO.

[@savagepro9060]

It's like putting a band-aid on an old wound . . . gun control!

[@The_clips_that_Dip]

NO!

[@Jonny17m]

@@The_clips_that_Dip Works in over countries to but Americans are just kinda childish I guess

[@MrScissor90]

​@@Jonny17mno other country other than the US has ever had over 400 million unregistered firearms in civilian ownership. That doesn't even include imported arms and homemade arms. That's roughly 46% of the WORLD ARSENAL of small arms, to put that into perspective. So to compare any country to America in regards to firearms is an apples to oranges argument, because compared to America, other cou tries barely had any firearms to begin with. The time for gun control in the US has long passed, the war is over, gun control has lost. We can literally print our own glocks and ARs now.

[@mobilusinmobili8321]

@@Jonny17m Which countries? The whiter ones that still have shootings?

[@andrewj22]

All the aspiring mass murderers are like, 'So I just become a teacher and they'll actually *_give_* me a gun and put me in a school with a bunch of kids?' 🤔

[@muhammad-bin-american]

More money for NRA and Gun manufacturers.

[@aresgalamatis7022]

A better title would for this video would be: "How new clients for the gun manufacturers are created at the cost more lives to make them richer".

[@S1D3W1ND3R015]

Imagine getting ridiculed for manufacturing a completely legal and actually constitutionally protected product because some select few people use it illegally and do bad things.

[@georget.5048]

imagine not understanding the sentiment behind the ridicule that, in order to protect wider society, limitations should be placed on entities that have such high capacity for damage, but gun manufacturers and lobbies stop that from happening largely for their own interests.@@S1D3W1ND3R015

[@jaspernewcombe7502]

​​@@S1D3W1ND3R015 imagine thinking that those weapons are being manufactured by people who are motivated by a moral incentive. Gun lobbyists are happy to defend the morality of consumer gun culture until a bunch of kids are murdered at which point they try aren't quite so enthusiastic. Its a bot hard to market yourself when you are in support of a system which makes it easier for mentally ill people to shoot children.theyre getting too rich to ever admit there is a problem. I guess it doesn't matter to them that these are a minority of gun deaths after all how radical would it be to reconsidered policy over the deaths of just a few kids? How many more kids should need to die for it to matter?

[@codyeby]

Bro I am suing Ford over a guy that cut me off yesterday lol. Liberal logic

[@j.y.]

Dumb idea. It is because of gun lobbies

[@rudiduke7949]

It's not ".an intense scenario ". Do it again and again until you're comfortable with it if you're going to carry a weapon to protect students.

[@FZJanimated]

not even third world countries live like this and THIS is suppose to be a 1st world country?

[@dvdragon]

America is turning into a meme. The Onion has no more material. The absurd in manifested reality.

[@silverXnoise]

Should oncologists smoke all the cigarettes to cut down lung cancer rates?

[@--------_]

why not just make guns illegal.

[@somerandommemedude1709]

Sadly America is too far gone for that, the country has more guns than people. Unlike other countries like Japan or the UK, the US is past gun control laws. We can print guns in our own houses now. Best we can do is deter people from even doing it, or focus on mental health evaluations. I'd like to talk about Japan because they recently had an assassination of president Abe, home made shotgun killed him, not even a real "firearm", just home made. The US has never been a polite society, during Prohibition people still went against the law to get alcohol, leading to the rise of hard liquor. I wish it was possible to take guns out in just a snap of the finger, but reality doesn't like to play nice.

[@codyeby]

Yeah because banning alcohol and drugs has totally worked before.

[@backto-il9ne]

So y'all are paying teachers a below mininum wage salary to be parents, educators, counselors and now anti-terrorism snipers??? LOL America is beyond parody at this point.

[@andrewnguyen4827]

Teachers strike with violence

[@mack-uv6gn]

Fear is very powerful and profitable.

[@jamesvandemark2086]

A very bad sign.......

[@SirBizzel]

Lol. The US is just insane

[@mobilusinmobili8321]

Compared to the Middle East, Africa, and Central and South America? Sure

[@containedhurricane]

Firearm related fatalities in 2021: South Korea: 0 Japan: 0 Australia: 1 Britain: 22 USA: 38,390

[@somerandommemedude1709]

Now pull up how much unregistered fire arms there are in the US. The US is to far gone for gun control, they need a common goal, not two split ones.@@containedhurricane

[@codyeby]

The PM of Japan was literally shot to death. Your numbers are wrong

[@containedhurricane]

@@codyeby It was in 2022

[@StephenMortimer]

BAD REPORTING

[@alexkhorne7733]

Because we are the greatest and freest country in the world this is why!!1

[@echoinsahara]

In the freest country, normally people don’t have to spend time learning how to shoot a gun in order to protect their students.

[@mobilusinmobili8321]

​@@echoinsahara Are you seriously implying shootings dont happen in Europe?

[@containedhurricane]

Welcome to the land of the free and home of the braves, where people aren't free to wear jewelry on the streets due to armed thugs, children can't play outside without having to worry about stray bullets and citizens can't escape from the IRS in this world

[@mahyar2727]

🤣🤣😂😂

[@Scho-penhauer]

Because of school mass shootings 🤔

[@mbklig]

USA gun issue is not even sad anymore it is just funny patheticly comedic

[@WizardOfCheese]

im going to give my 2 cents before watching the video and say this probably wont help. you'd be better off with armoured doors that lock on their own. or tear gas pipes in the halls. bringing weapons into schools (for the teacher) sounds pretty dumb to me, but now that i've said what i wanted to say I will watch the video.

[@ElSantoLuchador]

Metal detectors and armed security. Schools are so underfunded that probably the sensible ideas can't be implemented. A nervous teacher with a p-shooter vs an armed intruder with tactical gear and an AK is a non-solution.

[@houseplant1016]

You should drop your 2 cents more often 💀

[@somerandommemedude1709]

No, no, they have a point. Armored doors help, here we have them. But teargas is schools is overkill and some kid is gonna set it off. 💀@@houseplant1016

[@drstevej2527]

Because too many people are scared. There are things to be afraid in the world but this is nonsense. You just gave a shooter the gun they might not be able to get elsewhere or into the school. Utah is one of the safest states in the country.

[@containedhurricane]

If more firearms made us safer, then Texas should've been the safest place in the world. Remember about the liquor store clerk who died following a shootout during an armed robbery in Visalia on June 11, 2023

[@NOKI-VSEOCENIM]

Becouse optimists are leaning mba and economics, pessimists are leaning Cheneese language, and realists are leaning M16 and AK47 :)

[@Eoin-B]

Electronic locks on all classroom doors would be much safer than giving teachers guns who could accidentally shoot a random kid and ruin their own lives... An active shooter does not stand still like on a range and there are tons of kids scattering in front of and behind them. Giving teachers guns is probably one of the stupidest ideas. Imagine adding 30 more guns to all that chaos.

[@zeitgeist888]

So if you are a teacher in a room with dozens of students facing an armed attacker at the door (locked or unlocked) do you want to face that attacker armed or unarmed to protect yourself and the dozens of students when the attacker comes through the doorway? Teachers shouldn't go hunting for a shooter but they should be able to defend themselves and students beyond trying to get to a room and lock the door. Locks keep out honest people. They also don't think like a human and decide when to close and lock. Do you close and lock a door when students are still in hallways or wait until all students are in rooms then lock doors? What happens when the shooter gets locked in with others? Are they just forfeited or do they get a chance to defend themselves. NO ONE is forcing ANY teacher to have to be armed if they don't want to. It is just an option to use a tool to defend themselves.

[@mobilusinmobili8321]

Weird. Seems to work for leftist politicians and celebrities with their armed guards.

[@phillycheesetake]

@@zeitgeist888 You have to realize with these hysterical people, who believe colleagues will just start shooting each other and their students, that they're projecting their own failings and incompetence onto every other person in society. They assume the worst because they are the worst. Can't perform under pressure, physically useless, nerves of glass. Instead of facing their inadequacies they imagine everyone has them to feel better about themselves. This guy LITERALLY BELIEVES that armed teachers will just start wildly running through hallways shooting everything that moves if there's an attack...because that's what he'd do.

[@yoshiwoollyworld]

@@zeitgeist888if you allowed teachers to bring guns, what makes you think the guns won’t be used incorrectly such as students shooting their teachers or classmates?

[@zeitgeist888]

@@yoshiwoollyworld Because the schools that already allow it hasn't happened.

[@voltic7133]

It shouldn't just be teachers who are learning how to shoot. There are almost 400M guns in the United States, and every American should know how to safely and effectively handle a firearm.

[@Urbanhandyman]

We need to require all custodial and cafeteria staff in our nation's schools to have tactical close-quarter combat training. Only through an active program of armed deterrence can our children truly be free. The 2nd Amendment WORKS.

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