Try these settings for yourself and let me know what you think! I wish there was more we could do with color on these cameras but someday (hopefully) we will all have 10-bit color in our Sony cameras!
@studiotrics4 жыл бұрын
Sir can u tell me the light u used behind ur right side ? Three light model ?
@saksereyvuth43664 жыл бұрын
I have been using this setting combination for my Sony a6300 for the last few months and I had a major improvement on the video quality since then. I used to think that what I am doing is wrong but at the same time decided to go with this setting due to the result I got. Your video is so helpful and I can confidently using this setting from now on.
@stradesecondarie4 жыл бұрын
I really have good results converting the slog2 and s-gamut in DaVinci with "color space transform".
@JaysCashVault4 жыл бұрын
May I ask if you recommend changing setting A7r iii boosting colors and boosting saturation +32? Other you tubers are recommending this
@laurencevlogs72034 жыл бұрын
Hi can you give me a camera please because I have no money to buy my own camera
@indymogul4 жыл бұрын
Wow! The S-Gamut results were really surprising. I'll remember that forever. Thanks Caleb!
@b3naqua4 жыл бұрын
same!
@sacredxgeometry11 ай бұрын
Oh my god!! Is this THE Indy mogul?? I watched a video you did a million years ago about rotoscoping a lightsaber. I think I was…9 years old. I’m 26 now 😂
@aaroncadena6398 Жыл бұрын
you've saved so many future projects of mine because of this, ive always hated how my colors fell apart, and now i know why, thank you
@AureliusTjin3 жыл бұрын
Genius! This fixed my looonggg issue with slog2 color correcting. Thank you Caleb!!
@dunnadidit4 жыл бұрын
Great video dude! I have a similar fix where I still use s.gamut but I just crank up the saturation so that there is more to start with and it achieves a similar result of the colors not falling apart. I’m stoked to try this way though!
@matthewandclank24 жыл бұрын
Your settings definitely seem to work the best especially when you are working in software like resolve and want to use color space transform. keeping everything at default pp7 but raising the saturation makes it extremely easy to de log your footage. everything stays coherent across the board. dunna already did it.
@AhsanZafar4 жыл бұрын
fix to your blochyness problem is simple just overexpose and use a slog2 to 709 lut thats it.
@dslrvideoshooter4 жыл бұрын
Oh nice! Just went to your channel and found the video. Very interesting and definitely helps! Would love to hear your thoughts after using this setup.
@dunnadidit4 жыл бұрын
Ahsan Zafar Channel - the issue with that method (which I’ve tested thoroughly) is that I had to overexposed to the point where the highlight detail was completely lost in order to fix the blocky was. However, the way that I (and Caleb, and the original Leeming luts) have dealt with it allows us to keep more highlight detail without getting the blockyness in the shadows. It’s not perfect but it’s better than clipping the highlights all the time.
@dunnadidit4 жыл бұрын
DSLR Video Shooter - yeah I’ll definitely let you know!!
@productfeedback4 жыл бұрын
What about HLG vs S-Log
@phucmapvlog4 жыл бұрын
I started with Cine2 based on recommendations, but I’ll be sure to give this setting a try!
@rsmith024 жыл бұрын
Honestly, don't. Stick with Cine 2 and avoid the artifacts inherent with 8-bit log formats.
@Cadence244 жыл бұрын
Cine2 - Cinema and -10 saturation -7 Detail, I found it the best, and I tried A LOT.
@yosefwaltz4 жыл бұрын
@@Cadence24 was waiting for some follow up, like on how you grade this recommendation of yours sir on dr16
@jordanbathe87723 жыл бұрын
@@Cadence24 have any examples I can see?!
@jeanarellano43302 жыл бұрын
@@Cadence24 you found a good Dinamic Range with that settings?
@DJmallninja3 жыл бұрын
This video has made me feeling more like a nerd than anything else. I just spent the entire last night trying to find the right A6500 color setttings to take out a magenta cast in a used Kino Flo i bought.... and your intro (un-ironically) spoke to my exhausted soul
@Moredrums Жыл бұрын
Caleb you are a friggin live-saver. I'm an audio guy who started filming during Covid and have since gone through the whole Action Cam --> Budget A600 setup --> Upgraded A6400/ZV-E10 setup --> First FX30 setup process. I've shot SLOG2 from the start and even with custom white balance, using a greycard for exposure, zebras, false color on my Ninja V and all those little things you need to get just right, I still felt there was something off. This might just be my biggest facepalm moment hunting for reasons why but holy moly will I go through all my settings, luts and grading presets on the weekend 😀
@anubhavroy4 жыл бұрын
THIS WAS SO HELPFUL!
@OriginaldoBo4 жыл бұрын
Gave this a go I was skeptical I’ll admit but... I will say it’s easy to grade and the color is incredibly accurate. Really don’t have to add any additional saturation either which is ideal. I noticed very minimal shift and skin tones were looking natural and pleasing.
@andrescolintv3 жыл бұрын
I didn’t know you shoot Sony, man! Just switched to Sony from Canon, so I’m in the “watching lots of tutorials before actually shooting with my new camera”, phase…
@thomasshakelton3 жыл бұрын
Do you still need to convert it to rec709 when using ITU709 in sLog2?
@kima17k2 жыл бұрын
@@thomasshakelton Did you find an answer to that?
@johnmalkovich76666 ай бұрын
@@kima17k anybody?
@sacredxgeometry11 ай бұрын
Maybe you’ll see this, maybe you won’t, but I wanted to thank you for being honest and coming clear about Sony’s colours. I absolutely hate them but I think the cameras and their technology are really good. Furthermore, the video you’ve uploaded here itself has really nice grading. I’ve noticed Sony’s issue is that it makes everything that’s black, more like it’s blue, and everything that’s white, more like it’s orange; worse still, is that almost all green and magenta tones caught by this camera are absurd to edit. This is not true on my Nikon RAWs, so I hope there are also ways of editing the camera that reflect the ethos of this video, but for photo as well (what I do mainly).
@dmd35207 ай бұрын
Kind of weird to post a comment three years after video release but just rewatched this to freshen up. I can't stress enough how clarifying this is. Initially oblivious to the consequence of 8-bit I tried to film and grade with the "fancy" S-gamut/log setting on my A6400. The result was horrendous. This is the way to go.
@MangoTalksTech4 жыл бұрын
I cannot stress enough just how helpful this was! My video was not looking great (a7ii) but now it looks really rich in color! Thanks for the easy to follow guide :D
@OmarAfuni4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video! PotatoJet mentioned that there are problems with AF with S-Log2 on the A6400 so I’ve been using HLG2. I’ll definitely be trying this setting and see if this affects AF in any way.
@droneeye26182 жыл бұрын
I have owned this camera maybe 5 years and after this video I am for the first time happy with the colours- thank you so much !!
@officially_s Жыл бұрын
Davinci Resolve Users - Use REC709 in Input color space while doing a color space transform for color correction. REC709 and ITU709 Matrix are the same thing.
@blackmusicdzuma Жыл бұрын
I was looking for that for 2 hours :)
@potater61637 ай бұрын
wait really? so I dont even need a cst unless im using a lut? thanks
@jimm.leonardo2 ай бұрын
Thank u. REC 709, Slog 2 -> REC 709, REC 709A right?
@its_melmie3 жыл бұрын
I use sony a6400 for Twitch streaming, and this actually helped so much! I kept having overly bronzy patchy skin that looked like a bad fake tan, but this solved my issue and my skin now looks more even and soft. Thank you again!
@stevengonz4 жыл бұрын
Caleb, I cant tell you how much I appreciate you putting this out. I was about to spend a couple days doing tests with all the different color spaces to figure out a better option than the sgamut because I found it was making my videos look too desaturated . Was really not looking forward to it, so im super thankful you put this out just in time 🙏🏼
@jatodaro2 жыл бұрын
This video just changed me life. You are THE MAN.
@CREATEBEYONDBOUNDARIES4 жыл бұрын
Caleb your the man, always has the right answer my favorite and first Film Channel I’ve ever Subscribed to!!!!
@_tographer4 жыл бұрын
Always informative. I think I’ve seen you talk about these settings before (maybe on a live stream) but very helpful and the examples perfectly illustrate the points.
@digitalsportsclipstv20182 жыл бұрын
Absolute masterpiece. I love this cam. People want to talk me into buying a cannon but I really want to master this cam and I'm invested into it. Thank you for posting such a great video for us!
@b3naqua4 жыл бұрын
Whoaaaa I've never even heard of the ITU709 Matrix stuff before. I just default to the Standard setting on the a6400 cuz I'm impatient lol, but now I want to experiment w these settings! Thanks Caleb
@JaredBishopFilms2 жыл бұрын
This! This worked for me on the a7iii like a dream. And surprisingly I got even more pleasing results using the same principles in s-log3. Thanks again for all the good work you do.
@wearilive4 жыл бұрын
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THIS! so easy to understand and helped me out!
@mondotv42164 жыл бұрын
I think Cine 4 is the best balance if you’re not in a hi con setting where you need the SLog2 gamma curve. Still flat but enough colour information to do a nice grade in post. Using the Slog2 gamma is still a problem in some situations in an 8 bit camera.
@Chaoticmind_Shan4 жыл бұрын
Can u pls make a video on how to use a x rite color checker passport video for fuji cameras in davinci resolve
@UnitedWeBrap4 жыл бұрын
“This is where the plot thickens...” Love DSLR Video Shooter. So good. So so good.
@User_not_found_4034 жыл бұрын
Caleb - thank you for giving such simple explanations on gamma and color modes. Never understood this before until now.
@a02tony093 жыл бұрын
dude same!!
@mtundustudios6 ай бұрын
@@a02tony09Same
@imjustsomeguy5 ай бұрын
For me, using S-Log2 ITU709 Matrix messes with the hues, making skin pink. After playing around with Davinci Resolve, I find that adding a SMPTE-C Sony S-Log2 to Rec.709-A Rec.709 color space transform helps. Messing around with tone-mapping helps too. If that’s not enough, then I slightly push the hues to the negatives before the color space transform node
@BadBeetsTCG4 жыл бұрын
I want to see Gerald Undone talk about HLG vs Caleb's recommendations now----
@rsmith024 жыл бұрын
He's going to tear it to shreds. First he will use his $1200 chart to show how off the primaries are and then how Caleb didn't use the color chart to properly fix luminance levels.
@BadBeetsTCG4 жыл бұрын
rsmith02 after going off on how the dynamic range in the gamma curve is inferior even in 8-bit
@BadBeetsTCG4 жыл бұрын
Rocco Richardson I’ve been using heads settings since the video came out. Works amazing in my fs5. Not so much in my a6600
@dep10014 жыл бұрын
With my A7III I shoot HLG2 in PP10 and color mode 709. And overexpose by around +1. I got those tips from Jason Vong and really dig it. Looks great!
@bobceffo4 жыл бұрын
@@RoccoRichardson same here
@carlosayala99954 жыл бұрын
Finally, I thought you were never gonna do a video like this
@AM2PMReviews4 жыл бұрын
i just tried it with some basic boosting of the saturation and lowering the mids and shadows and it looks great out of camera. It doesn't need much color correction.
@arthurhusken4 жыл бұрын
Hey Caleb, do you also overexpose two stops? Greeting Arthur
@Enlightenment_20254 жыл бұрын
I, personally color-blind (not sensitive to colors, I mean), appreciate this information very much. Thank you Caleb.
@JeffSu4 жыл бұрын
Caleb's thumbnails are always on point 👌 (and it's totally not because of the bald head....). Love the content Caleb 😁😁
@dslrvideoshooter4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Jeff!
@maddenfan66834 жыл бұрын
Where can I find a good tutorial on grading this specific setup?
@skymakai4 жыл бұрын
I tried this a few weeks ago and it’s really the best way to shoot with the 8-bit profiles... no color gamut correction needed!
@thomasshakelton3 жыл бұрын
Ah ok so if i shot in ITU709 I don’t need to convert to rec709 in Post?
@PineCellar3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for this! I had my Color Mode set to S-Gamut (as advised by another Sony owner and cinematographer) and couldn't figure out why the colors were so flat and muted. I figured I could just fix them in post. So glad I watched this before I started shooting with my new Sony!
@Baxman514 жыл бұрын
I’ll vouch for calebs camera guides any day. I used one for the Panasonic g7 and the Sony A7iii. Incredibly helpful and thorough. Super valuable
@twin2turbos3 жыл бұрын
Finally I got the look that Ive always wanted, thank you sir for sharing such a valuable infos in a short and easy to understand video. You got my respect.
@bodarville65274 жыл бұрын
I've been trying to figure out S-log for 2 years... and never liked the results. I can't wait to try this!
@caryhowell77093 жыл бұрын
I’ve been struggling with color in my videos it seems like forever now but I will definitely give this a try today! Thank you so much for the information such a great video!
@Akula1143 жыл бұрын
Wow... even painted white, I hadn't seen a ColorTran MiniBrute 6 in years! Subject at hand... thank you for an excellent series of videos!
@StevieWyatt2 жыл бұрын
Great video, really helpful, especially for someone quite new to video like me. You explained it in a way even I can understand! Thanks!
@ombrevisual4 жыл бұрын
Do we still have to overexpose when shooting s-log2 using these settings?
@dslrvideoshooter4 жыл бұрын
For low noise yes!
@perthlongboardingsociety3214 жыл бұрын
@@dslrvideoshooter How do you know how much to overexpose by?
@Mikaelsteventan4 жыл бұрын
Thankyou for this question
@BenChamberland4 жыл бұрын
Are you saying that the new A7Siii has the proper S-Gamut? Or we don’t have the information at this point? (Regardless of the improvements with Color science and 10bits)
@DigitalGenki4 жыл бұрын
I googled for the details on the A7SIII and it says the same thing! Here is the help guide for the A7SIII and scroll down and you'll read "S-Gamut, S-Gamut3.Cine, and S-Gamut3 are color spaces exclusive to Sony. However, this camera's S-Gamut setting does not support the whole S-Gamut color space; it is a setting to achieve a color reproduction equivalent to S-Gamut." Here is the help page on picture profiles for the new camera helpguide.sony.net/ilc/2010/v1/en/contents/TP0002920003.html?search=picture%20profile
@dslrvideoshooter4 жыл бұрын
Same issues on the A7s III :-( But 10-bit helps A LOT. Video showing a comparison soon!
@braydenjones45054 жыл бұрын
Have you tried HLG3 with rec709 colour? Works out well for me personally. The hybrid log gamma is great because it's easy to grade given the linear responding curve from the lower to mid tones, but the highlights are treated like log for more dynamic range. It's super easy to grade, and has enough dynamic range to work with. Also, theoretically, setting it to rec709 colour gets it right in camera similar to itu matrix.
@dipopeters4 жыл бұрын
I use HLG2, over expose by 1 stop and I'm very happy with the results every time. In Premiere, just bring down the shadows and blacks a little, add a little contrast, adjust exposure slightly depending on the scene and that's it. Great results all the time.
@braydenjones45054 жыл бұрын
@@dipopeters I agree. Also try HLG3 because your footage clips at 100, instead of HLG2's 95. Any noise advantages of HLG2 can be gained on HLG3 in post by simply crushing your darker areas of your image.
@zachrowton7032 жыл бұрын
Wow, what a helpful video! I am definitely going to try this, thank you so much! You earned a sub.
@hammocktimenapper4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the great video! It's so valuable to be able to get your high levels of experience distilled down!
@ZachBoyce4 жыл бұрын
Wish I had this knowledge when I was still shooting with A7sII. For the life of me always found grading the footage impossible!
@AM2PMReviews4 жыл бұрын
Just got a A6600 and love the new grip and battery from my A6400. With my ND filters I get weird magenta and green tones so I used your tips for perfect colors with the video passport and now I will use these new tips. With the 8 bit codec...it seems a lot of people don’t prefer the SLog and I have some issues with colors in HLG which was supposed to correct these a lot of issues. I heard HLG was the best too but maybe that is only true for 10 bit. I will try these new tips since I currently just shoot with a slightly desaturated standard profile with sharpening turned down and it seems very easy to work with and I only have to fix the green and magenta some,
@itsKEVO4 жыл бұрын
thank you for this video! used for my sony 6400 and now I love the look.😁
@MarkBennettCameraCrisis4 жыл бұрын
Do you ETTR with this??
@guerrerosdigitales4 жыл бұрын
What about during the night? Still works fine? And when light changes? Thanks
@jncolligan14 жыл бұрын
Thank you! would love for you to do a deep dive in 'getting it right in camera' with the rest of those sony settings (e.g Black Gamma)... as you say.... the video files are just too fragile after written, so writing them right in the camera can produce loads of advantages...
@vyshnav50134 жыл бұрын
Great video bruh ! I’ve been using cine4 on my a6500 but I sure will give this a try. Please do make a video in the future on how to expose for these settings and what settings to use in low light . But still very informative . Thanks !
@dannyly4 жыл бұрын
Tried this on the new A7C and I think it looks great! Thanks for the tips!
@InventiveImagery4 жыл бұрын
Sony is like “crap he found the fine print” .. super interesting about S-Gamut
@AlvinDedeauxFlyFishing4 жыл бұрын
😂
@rsmith024 жыл бұрын
It's not really true, though. It just means consumer Sonys have a smaller portion of s-gamut they can use. You can use the sgamut.cine ones that were explicitly designed for them instead.
@alexmartinez-rr6wi4 жыл бұрын
I wonder if the same S-Gamut hoodwink applies for the FS-5
@InventiveImagery4 жыл бұрын
You’re AWESOME, Caleb! Always bringing the best tips to light. Let us know when you’re going to release the Creator’s Guide! 😁
@dslrvideoshooter4 жыл бұрын
That is next on the list! Going to be a beast of a guide!
@InventiveImagery4 жыл бұрын
DSLR Video Shooter Can’t wait 😍 really looking forward to it! Stoked to soak up information from ya!
@HK-NYC3 жыл бұрын
Do you have a how you grade video with settings? Thanks
@jpragmatic77594 жыл бұрын
This will be controversial ! But I've found the putting DRO on 3/4 , not using a picture profile, getting the white balance correct and exposing for the highlights (not blowing them out) looks equally cinematic and the colours are good! And usually with a small grade to warm up the shadows it looks very good.
@boonyasit274 жыл бұрын
I have tried your setting today and .... god this is the result is amazing!! I also have some question about this setting, shu I overexposure for 2 stop as usual? it seems like I can expose like CINE and HLG Picture profile.
@stefanreijn60543 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much! this has been resolving some issues!
@mlegrand4 жыл бұрын
I'll be super interested in S-Log3 on the Sony A7s3
@AllThingsFilm14 жыл бұрын
I just tried your settings on my a6400. Looks great. And I mainly adjusted contrast.
@eddyalvarenga4 жыл бұрын
Great video. Please do one of these for Panasonic MFT cameras.
@artem.romanenkov4 жыл бұрын
But what about HLG in 709?😦
@onocoffee4 жыл бұрын
Great video Caleb and a lot of great details and ideas. And while it looks like a great livestream setup, do you actually do Livestreams? If so, when?
@NewLayer4 жыл бұрын
Brooooooooooooo! Do you recommend S-Gamut3.Cine with Slog3 on the A7S III? Or do you still use 709? The A7S III help guide has the same fine print. I currently use the default PP8 and the Sony LUT to correct the footage before working, BUT, for creative projects I would love to be able to do my own curves adjustment and just use a Saturation slider to taste instead like you mentioned in this video! Gimme the skinny!
@AlvinDedeauxFlyFishing4 жыл бұрын
This is great! Going to give it a try.
@mikener4 жыл бұрын
Thank you Caleb, that was super informative as always.
@gamepat93 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much! I'm shocked, how much better my footage looks with ITU 709 now! I just wish I had found this advice earlier. I shot a whole music video with s-gamut with a lot of water in the background, which looks like a big artefact-mess.
@texashammer44 жыл бұрын
so helpful! Thanks for making complex color science simple.
@mreleven78264 жыл бұрын
I don't know anything about i cameras,but I trust you to guide me . Thank you for the content
@simpleshotsproduction3 жыл бұрын
It's amazing result! Thx a lot!!!
@willmannering3 жыл бұрын
Hey Caleb, thank you for the recommendation! After watching this I have since tested both colour profiles in the same scene with the same lighting and exposure settings. However the differences I found with S.gamut3.cine vs ITU709matrix weren't nearly as noticeable as shown here. Perhaps it's most apparent when shooting against a neutral grey background shown here, but in my case even with the saturation cranked to the same visually in post, the differences were almost negligible without boosting the exposure in post, at that point I could see a difference in boosted shadows. It's super frustrating as a wedding filmmaker trying to dissect and test all of the colour profiles with the Sony a7iii. Transitioning from photographer to filmmaker it's ridiculous how handicapped I feel creatively when shooting in 8 bit video compared to shooting RAW... I've found after many shoots that I can get amazing colour and grading latitude when shooting Slog2 s.gamut3cine 4K in nice lighting, but I run into huge issues when shooting 60p in mixed indoor lighting (still properly overexposing by one stop to maintain better signal to noise ratio). Hopefully now that I'm shooting in ITU709 I will see a tangible difference in worse lighting conditions, but I cannot wait until I upgrade to the A7siii and can shoot slog3 without worrying about the bitrate having a stroke.
@LimitedEditionReviews2 жыл бұрын
Fantastic, thank you for your thorough explanation!
@apereeira4 жыл бұрын
Amazing stuff! love the channel and the great content as I am getting more and more into video.
@Justwantpeacelove3 жыл бұрын
knowledge over 9000!!!!!!!!!! right here! Thank you brother!
@dodmedia4 жыл бұрын
This was super interesting Caleb! I tend to have my A6500 in SLOG-2 S-Gamut 3 for recording my tutorials. I'll have to give your method a go! 🤘🤘
@nickpedroza Жыл бұрын
Super helpful! Was wondering why my a7iii footage was breaking apart
@TheHDReleaser4 ай бұрын
Awesome video and tips. A quick question. How do you expose for it? +1? +2? +0.7?
@AxelLopez8 ай бұрын
How does one go about exposing for this PP set up ?
@johnnykyr34034 жыл бұрын
thanks! colors look so much better and livelier right off the camera!
@_Birdyfilms3 жыл бұрын
Im using the ITU709 Matrix with cine2 and i love the result
@nicogibsondesign3 жыл бұрын
This is amazing, such great tips!
@Jedithtv4 жыл бұрын
Are these settings on the a5100? Can’t seem to find them
@sungwoo_hong4 ай бұрын
omg... you solve my problems... thanks really appreciate!!!!
@BlaineWestropp14 жыл бұрын
What’s the light in the background!!
@frankisimo1003 жыл бұрын
wow, I always use the S-Gamut color space and it gives a lot of banding most part of the time, thank you so much for this tutorial, I'll try your recommendation when I go out and record something
@jmhorn2 жыл бұрын
VERY HELPFUL! Thank you!
@RichieToaMills4 жыл бұрын
Thanks man, great video, will definitely try this setting
@PatrickJaszewski4 жыл бұрын
Wow, that was super helpful! I had been boosting my saturation by customizing the PP with S-Gamut3, but this makes more sense.
@rsmith024 жыл бұрын
S-gamut 3 cine is actually made for this purpose. Keep doing that.
@PiriyaSambandaraksa3 жыл бұрын
Ok, this, instead of pushing the saturation up in S-Gamut plus the freedom to crank the ISO is game changing.
@tunaungkyaw56983 жыл бұрын
Can you make a tutorial or share how to color correct for your setting? Thanks
@k9.Unit.3 жыл бұрын
Very Helpful Stuff!. Thank You!
@lastdropbeerfestival4 жыл бұрын
Can you make a recommendation for Picture Profiles on Sony if using these bodies for Live-Streaming? Aka, no post.
@abb0tt4 жыл бұрын
+1 ...would really love a profile config for live streaming!
@abb0tt4 жыл бұрын
@@jordanettinger2500 thanks for the tip!
@maciejkobus4 жыл бұрын
Glad to see a new video. Especially recently when you were less active.
@dslrvideoshooter4 жыл бұрын
Getting back in the saddle!
@amitanand4984 жыл бұрын
More active on watching others content,(gerald undone and others). And in this way they looks like our family members.