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Why Sony Video Color SUCKS and How to FIX IT!

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@dslrvideoshooter
@dslrvideoshooter 4 жыл бұрын
Try these settings for yourself and let me know what you think! I wish there was more we could do with color on these cameras but someday (hopefully) we will all have 10-bit color in our Sony cameras!
@studiotrics
@studiotrics 4 жыл бұрын
Sir can u tell me the light u used behind ur right side ? Three light model ?
@saksereyvuth4366
@saksereyvuth4366 4 жыл бұрын
I have been using this setting combination for my Sony a6300 for the last few months and I had a major improvement on the video quality since then. I used to think that what I am doing is wrong but at the same time decided to go with this setting due to the result I got. Your video is so helpful and I can confidently using this setting from now on.
@stradesecondarie
@stradesecondarie 4 жыл бұрын
I really have good results converting the slog2 and s-gamut in DaVinci with "color space transform".
@jaysvlog9803
@jaysvlog9803 3 жыл бұрын
May I ask if you recommend changing setting A7r iii boosting colors and boosting saturation +32? Other you tubers are recommending this
@laurencevlogs7203
@laurencevlogs7203 3 жыл бұрын
Hi can you give me a camera please because I have no money to buy my own camera
@indymogul
@indymogul 4 жыл бұрын
Wow! The S-Gamut results were really surprising. I'll remember that forever. Thanks Caleb!
@b3naqua
@b3naqua 4 жыл бұрын
same!
@sacredxgeometry
@sacredxgeometry 6 ай бұрын
Oh my god!! Is this THE Indy mogul?? I watched a video you did a million years ago about rotoscoping a lightsaber. I think I was…9 years old. I’m 26 now 😂
@dmd3520
@dmd3520 3 ай бұрын
Kind of weird to post a comment three years after video release but just rewatched this to freshen up. I can't stress enough how clarifying this is. Initially oblivious to the consequence of 8-bit I tried to film and grade with the "fancy" S-gamut/log setting on my A6400. The result was horrendous. This is the way to go.
@aaroncadena6398
@aaroncadena6398 11 ай бұрын
you've saved so many future projects of mine because of this, ive always hated how my colors fell apart, and now i know why, thank you
@productfeedback
@productfeedback 4 жыл бұрын
What about HLG vs S-Log
@Moredrums
@Moredrums Жыл бұрын
Caleb you are a friggin live-saver. I'm an audio guy who started filming during Covid and have since gone through the whole Action Cam --> Budget A600 setup --> Upgraded A6400/ZV-E10 setup --> First FX30 setup process. I've shot SLOG2 from the start and even with custom white balance, using a greycard for exposure, zebras, false color on my Ninja V and all those little things you need to get just right, I still felt there was something off. This might just be my biggest facepalm moment hunting for reasons why but holy moly will I go through all my settings, luts and grading presets on the weekend 😀
@dunnadidit
@dunnadidit 4 жыл бұрын
Great video dude! I have a similar fix where I still use s.gamut but I just crank up the saturation so that there is more to start with and it achieves a similar result of the colors not falling apart. I’m stoked to try this way though!
@matthewandclank2
@matthewandclank2 4 жыл бұрын
Your settings definitely seem to work the best especially when you are working in software like resolve and want to use color space transform. keeping everything at default pp7 but raising the saturation makes it extremely easy to de log your footage. everything stays coherent across the board. dunna already did it.
@AhsanZafar
@AhsanZafar 4 жыл бұрын
fix to your blochyness problem is simple just overexpose and use a slog2 to 709 lut thats it.
@dslrvideoshooter
@dslrvideoshooter 4 жыл бұрын
Oh nice! Just went to your channel and found the video. Very interesting and definitely helps! Would love to hear your thoughts after using this setup.
@dunnadidit
@dunnadidit 4 жыл бұрын
Ahsan Zafar Channel - the issue with that method (which I’ve tested thoroughly) is that I had to overexposed to the point where the highlight detail was completely lost in order to fix the blocky was. However, the way that I (and Caleb, and the original Leeming luts) have dealt with it allows us to keep more highlight detail without getting the blockyness in the shadows. It’s not perfect but it’s better than clipping the highlights all the time.
@dunnadidit
@dunnadidit 4 жыл бұрын
DSLR Video Shooter - yeah I’ll definitely let you know!!
@AureliusTjin
@AureliusTjin 2 жыл бұрын
Genius! This fixed my looonggg issue with slog2 color correcting. Thank you Caleb!!
@phucmapvlog
@phucmapvlog 4 жыл бұрын
I started with Cine2 based on recommendations, but I’ll be sure to give this setting a try!
@rsmith02
@rsmith02 4 жыл бұрын
Honestly, don't. Stick with Cine 2 and avoid the artifacts inherent with 8-bit log formats.
@Cadence24
@Cadence24 3 жыл бұрын
Cine2 - Cinema and -10 saturation -7 Detail, I found it the best, and I tried A LOT.
@josephteves
@josephteves 3 жыл бұрын
@@Cadence24 was waiting for some follow up, like on how you grade this recommendation of yours sir on dr16
@jordanbathe8772
@jordanbathe8772 2 жыл бұрын
@@Cadence24 have any examples I can see?!
@jeanarellano4330
@jeanarellano4330 2 жыл бұрын
@@Cadence24 you found a good Dinamic Range with that settings?
@sacredxgeometry
@sacredxgeometry 6 ай бұрын
Maybe you’ll see this, maybe you won’t, but I wanted to thank you for being honest and coming clear about Sony’s colours. I absolutely hate them but I think the cameras and their technology are really good. Furthermore, the video you’ve uploaded here itself has really nice grading. I’ve noticed Sony’s issue is that it makes everything that’s black, more like it’s blue, and everything that’s white, more like it’s orange; worse still, is that almost all green and magenta tones caught by this camera are absurd to edit. This is not true on my Nikon RAWs, so I hope there are also ways of editing the camera that reflect the ethos of this video, but for photo as well (what I do mainly).
@OriginaldoBo
@OriginaldoBo 3 жыл бұрын
Gave this a go I was skeptical I’ll admit but... I will say it’s easy to grade and the color is incredibly accurate. Really don’t have to add any additional saturation either which is ideal. I noticed very minimal shift and skin tones were looking natural and pleasing.
@andrescolintv
@andrescolintv 3 жыл бұрын
I didn’t know you shoot Sony, man! Just switched to Sony from Canon, so I’m in the “watching lots of tutorials before actually shooting with my new camera”, phase…
@thomasshakelton
@thomasshakelton 2 жыл бұрын
Do you still need to convert it to rec709 when using ITU709 in sLog2?
@kima6031
@kima6031 2 жыл бұрын
@@thomasshakelton Did you find an answer to that?
@johnmalkovich7666
@johnmalkovich7666 2 ай бұрын
@@kima6031 anybody?
@MangoTalksTech
@MangoTalksTech 3 жыл бұрын
I cannot stress enough just how helpful this was! My video was not looking great (a7ii) but now it looks really rich in color! Thanks for the easy to follow guide :D
@maisonmallninja
@maisonmallninja 3 жыл бұрын
This video has made me feeling more like a nerd than anything else. I just spent the entire last night trying to find the right A6500 color setttings to take out a magenta cast in a used Kino Flo i bought.... and your intro (un-ironically) spoke to my exhausted soul
@anubhavroy
@anubhavroy 4 жыл бұрын
THIS WAS SO HELPFUL!
@imjustsomeguy
@imjustsomeguy 9 күн бұрын
For me, using S-Log2 ITU709 Matrix messes with the hues, making skin pink. After playing around with Davinci Resolve, I find that adding a SMPTE-C Sony S-Log2 to Rec.709-A Rec.709 color space transform helps. Messing around with tone-mapping helps too. If that’s not enough, then I slightly push the hues to the negatives before the color space transform node
@droneeye2618
@droneeye2618 Жыл бұрын
I have owned this camera maybe 5 years and after this video I am for the first time happy with the colours- thank you so much !!
@OmarAfuni
@OmarAfuni 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video! PotatoJet mentioned that there are problems with AF with S-Log2 on the A6400 so I’ve been using HLG2. I’ll definitely be trying this setting and see if this affects AF in any way.
@melmie4505
@melmie4505 2 жыл бұрын
I use sony a6400 for Twitch streaming, and this actually helped so much! I kept having overly bronzy patchy skin that looked like a bad fake tan, but this solved my issue and my skin now looks more even and soft. Thank you again!
@legend240891
@legend240891 4 жыл бұрын
On a7III I use Neutral (-3 +3 -3) and Level 5 Dynamic Range Optimizer (DRO) during day time and Level 3 DRO during night time to maximize dynamic range. I find the footage is very pleasing and requires minimal post production. It is really close to the look of slog2/s.gamut footage + official sony LUT. Best part is you can use ISO100 instead of 800.
@i_am_kayode
@i_am_kayode 4 жыл бұрын
I thought I was the only one that done this. Looks so close to LOG and the DRO is a life saver and helps prevent clipping highlights
@NickDelDuca
@NickDelDuca 4 жыл бұрын
I tested this a little bit tonight and it looks pretty good and seems to grade really well. Will have to test a bit more. Thanks for the tip! Much appreciated!
@chrise.3114
@chrise.3114 3 жыл бұрын
Very good comment and suggestion! Definitely better than having to ETTR with SLOG, and more consistent results.
@cadufernandes1654
@cadufernandes1654 2 жыл бұрын
What do you mean by Neutral?
@stevengonz
@stevengonz 4 жыл бұрын
Caleb, I cant tell you how much I appreciate you putting this out. I was about to spend a couple days doing tests with all the different color spaces to figure out a better option than the sgamut because I found it was making my videos look too desaturated . Was really not looking forward to it, so im super thankful you put this out just in time 🙏🏼
@UnitedWeBrap
@UnitedWeBrap 3 жыл бұрын
“This is where the plot thickens...” Love DSLR Video Shooter. So good. So so good.
@officially_s
@officially_s Жыл бұрын
Davinci Resolve Users - Use REC709 in Input color space while doing a color space transform for color correction. REC709 and ITU709 Matrix are the same thing.
@blackmusicdzuma
@blackmusicdzuma 9 ай бұрын
I was looking for that for 2 hours :)
@potater6163
@potater6163 3 ай бұрын
wait really? so I dont even need a cst unless im using a lut? thanks
@mondotv4216
@mondotv4216 4 жыл бұрын
I think Cine 4 is the best balance if you’re not in a hi con setting where you need the SLog2 gamma curve. Still flat but enough colour information to do a nice grade in post. Using the Slog2 gamma is still a problem in some situations in an 8 bit camera.
@User_not_found_403
@User_not_found_403 4 жыл бұрын
Caleb - thank you for giving such simple explanations on gamma and color modes. Never understood this before until now.
@a02tony09
@a02tony09 3 жыл бұрын
dude same!!
@mtundustudios
@mtundustudios Ай бұрын
@@a02tony09Same
@braydenjones4505
@braydenjones4505 4 жыл бұрын
Have you tried HLG3 with rec709 colour? Works out well for me personally. The hybrid log gamma is great because it's easy to grade given the linear responding curve from the lower to mid tones, but the highlights are treated like log for more dynamic range. It's super easy to grade, and has enough dynamic range to work with. Also, theoretically, setting it to rec709 colour gets it right in camera similar to itu matrix.
@dipopeters
@dipopeters 4 жыл бұрын
I use HLG2, over expose by 1 stop and I'm very happy with the results every time. In Premiere, just bring down the shadows and blacks a little, add a little contrast, adjust exposure slightly depending on the scene and that's it. Great results all the time.
@braydenjones4505
@braydenjones4505 4 жыл бұрын
@@dipopeters I agree. Also try HLG3 because your footage clips at 100, instead of HLG2's 95. Any noise advantages of HLG2 can be gained on HLG3 in post by simply crushing your darker areas of your image.
@skymakai
@skymakai 4 жыл бұрын
I tried this a few weeks ago and it’s really the best way to shoot with the 8-bit profiles... no color gamut correction needed!
@thomasshakelton
@thomasshakelton 2 жыл бұрын
Ah ok so if i shot in ITU709 I don’t need to convert to rec709 in Post?
@JaredBritt
@JaredBritt 4 жыл бұрын
I want to see Gerald Undone talk about HLG vs Caleb's recommendations now----
@rsmith02
@rsmith02 4 жыл бұрын
He's going to tear it to shreds. First he will use his $1200 chart to show how off the primaries are and then how Caleb didn't use the color chart to properly fix luminance levels.
@JaredBritt
@JaredBritt 4 жыл бұрын
rsmith02 after going off on how the dynamic range in the gamma curve is inferior even in 8-bit
@JaredBritt
@JaredBritt 3 жыл бұрын
Rocco Richardson I’ve been using heads settings since the video came out. Works amazing in my fs5. Not so much in my a6600
@dep1001
@dep1001 3 жыл бұрын
With my A7III I shoot HLG2 in PP10 and color mode 709. And overexpose by around +1. I got those tips from Jason Vong and really dig it. Looks great!
@bobceffo
@bobceffo 3 жыл бұрын
@@RoccoRichardson same here
@JaredBishopFilms
@JaredBishopFilms Жыл бұрын
This! This worked for me on the a7iii like a dream. And surprisingly I got even more pleasing results using the same principles in s-log3. Thanks again for all the good work you do.
@Chaoticmind_Shan
@Chaoticmind_Shan 4 жыл бұрын
Can u pls make a video on how to use a x rite color checker passport video for fuji cameras in davinci resolve
@digitalsportsclipstv2018
@digitalsportsclipstv2018 Жыл бұрын
Absolute masterpiece. I love this cam. People want to talk me into buying a cannon but I really want to master this cam and I'm invested into it. Thank you for posting such a great video for us!
@JaketheMotorhead
@JaketheMotorhead 2 ай бұрын
This guy makes me feel stupid every time one of his fixes work beautifully
@spritual_enlightenment
@spritual_enlightenment 4 жыл бұрын
I, personally color-blind (not sensitive to colors, I mean), appreciate this information very much. Thank you Caleb.
@artem.romanenkov
@artem.romanenkov 4 жыл бұрын
But what about HLG in 709?😦
@PineCellar
@PineCellar 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for this! I had my Color Mode set to S-Gamut (as advised by another Sony owner and cinematographer) and couldn't figure out why the colors were so flat and muted. I figured I could just fix them in post. So glad I watched this before I started shooting with my new Sony!
@bodarville6527
@bodarville6527 4 жыл бұрын
I've been trying to figure out S-log for 2 years... and never liked the results. I can't wait to try this!
@ZachBoyce
@ZachBoyce 3 жыл бұрын
Wish I had this knowledge when I was still shooting with A7sII. For the life of me always found grading the footage impossible!
@caryhowell7709
@caryhowell7709 3 жыл бұрын
I’ve been struggling with color in my videos it seems like forever now but I will definitely give this a try today! Thank you so much for the information such a great video!
@Baxman51
@Baxman51 4 жыл бұрын
I’ll vouch for calebs camera guides any day. I used one for the Panasonic g7 and the Sony A7iii. Incredibly helpful and thorough. Super valuable
@jpragmatic7759
@jpragmatic7759 4 жыл бұрын
This will be controversial ! But I've found the putting DRO on 3/4 , not using a picture profile, getting the white balance correct and exposing for the highlights (not blowing them out) looks equally cinematic and the colours are good! And usually with a small grade to warm up the shadows it looks very good.
@InventiveImagery
@InventiveImagery 4 жыл бұрын
You’re AWESOME, Caleb! Always bringing the best tips to light. Let us know when you’re going to release the Creator’s Guide! 😁
@dslrvideoshooter
@dslrvideoshooter 4 жыл бұрын
That is next on the list! Going to be a beast of a guide!
@InventiveImagery
@InventiveImagery 4 жыл бұрын
DSLR Video Shooter Can’t wait 😍 really looking forward to it! Stoked to soak up information from ya!
@wolfieseven2360
@wolfieseven2360 4 жыл бұрын
I'll give it a run, but so far I've literally never been let down by Cine2 + Still color + -7 detail... I'll change to Movie color sometimes for weddings, to cut down on color correction... HLG3 for client work that takes place mostly outdoors.
@rsmith02
@rsmith02 4 жыл бұрын
Those are the same settings I use- much harder to screw up than temperamental s-log.
@isaacsnowhite104
@isaacsnowhite104 3 жыл бұрын
I tried this trick and find other flavor 709 like still and pro also work, but with less magenta.
@petrub27
@petrub27 3 жыл бұрын
cine2 has far less dynamic range
@wolfieseven2360
@wolfieseven2360 3 жыл бұрын
@@petrub27 Bogus. S-Log has 1/2 to 1 stops more, at most.
@petrub27
@petrub27 3 жыл бұрын
@@wolfieseven2360 dream on
@carlosayala9995
@carlosayala9995 4 жыл бұрын
Finally, I thought you were never gonna do a video like this
@blurblur
@blurblur Жыл бұрын
I think this is the best tutorial ever, after a ton I watched in a couple of weeks! thank you so much!!
@4.7m_views
@4.7m_views 3 жыл бұрын
This dude has a very relaxing voice, like ASMR level. Aside from that you speak like a someone who really does his research, smart man.
@willmannering
@willmannering 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Caleb, thank you for the recommendation! After watching this I have since tested both colour profiles in the same scene with the same lighting and exposure settings. However the differences I found with S.gamut3.cine vs ITU709matrix weren't nearly as noticeable as shown here. Perhaps it's most apparent when shooting against a neutral grey background shown here, but in my case even with the saturation cranked to the same visually in post, the differences were almost negligible without boosting the exposure in post, at that point I could see a difference in boosted shadows. It's super frustrating as a wedding filmmaker trying to dissect and test all of the colour profiles with the Sony a7iii. Transitioning from photographer to filmmaker it's ridiculous how handicapped I feel creatively when shooting in 8 bit video compared to shooting RAW... I've found after many shoots that I can get amazing colour and grading latitude when shooting Slog2 s.gamut3cine 4K in nice lighting, but I run into huge issues when shooting 60p in mixed indoor lighting (still properly overexposing by one stop to maintain better signal to noise ratio). Hopefully now that I'm shooting in ITU709 I will see a tangible difference in worse lighting conditions, but I cannot wait until I upgrade to the A7siii and can shoot slog3 without worrying about the bitrate having a stroke.
@JeffSu
@JeffSu 4 жыл бұрын
Caleb's thumbnails are always on point 👌 (and it's totally not because of the bald head....). Love the content Caleb 😁😁
@dslrvideoshooter
@dslrvideoshooter 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Jeff!
@PatrickJaszewski
@PatrickJaszewski 4 жыл бұрын
Wow, that was super helpful! I had been boosting my saturation by customizing the PP with S-Gamut3, but this makes more sense.
@rsmith02
@rsmith02 4 жыл бұрын
S-gamut 3 cine is actually made for this purpose. Keep doing that.
@Akula114
@Akula114 3 жыл бұрын
Wow... even painted white, I hadn't seen a ColorTran MiniBrute 6 in years! Subject at hand... thank you for an excellent series of videos!
@twin2turbos
@twin2turbos 3 жыл бұрын
Finally I got the look that Ive always wanted, thank you sir for sharing such a valuable infos in a short and easy to understand video. You got my respect.
@_tographer
@_tographer 4 жыл бұрын
Always informative. I think I’ve seen you talk about these settings before (maybe on a live stream) but very helpful and the examples perfectly illustrate the points.
@AM2PMReviews
@AM2PMReviews 3 жыл бұрын
i just tried it with some basic boosting of the saturation and lowering the mids and shadows and it looks great out of camera. It doesn't need much color correction.
@olegvorkunov5400
@olegvorkunov5400 2 жыл бұрын
I am getting incredible results with no color grading needed using HLG2 BT2020 with Details set to -7. Sony A7C. No color bending - super clean. Tried SLogs before and hated after color grading, which produced crushed blacks, noise, and color bending clearly visible when exposure was changing.
@wearilive
@wearilive 3 жыл бұрын
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THIS! so easy to understand and helped me out!
@florianbarras
@florianbarras 3 жыл бұрын
Very nice ! always used S-Log 2 and S-Gamut3 but I cranked up the saturation to avoid artefacting and achived satisfying results with it. I haven't tried your tip and will definitely give a go. Edit : I just tried it and found much more artifacting for roughly the same level of saturation with your your solution than using Slog2 with S-Gamut3 and adding +32 in saturation on the A7 III. It would need more testing though, with more robust tools and constant light/scene to be sure.
@PiriyaSambandaraksa
@PiriyaSambandaraksa 2 жыл бұрын
Ok, this, instead of pushing the saturation up in S-Gamut plus the freedom to crank the ISO is game changing.
@lg.studio
@lg.studio 4 жыл бұрын
I'll definitely try this. So far Cine4 with Pro color space (the Cody Blue settings) was my go to for weddings, as I found them to be the best for skin colors, even if the DR is less, then in SLog2. I have been playing with HLG lately, as it has he same DR as SLog2, and is easier to work with but colors are far from the Cine . (But only my a6400 has it, not my primary a6500). My main problem is the base iso of 500 and 800 for the SLog, that makes me hard to use in hard sunlight, even with variable ND, an a wedding day.
@gamepat9
@gamepat9 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much! I'm shocked, how much better my footage looks with ITU 709 now! I just wish I had found this advice earlier. I shot a whole music video with s-gamut with a lot of water in the background, which looks like a big artefact-mess.
@hammocktimenapper
@hammocktimenapper 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the great video! It's so valuable to be able to get your high levels of experience distilled down!
@jncolligan1
@jncolligan1 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you! would love for you to do a deep dive in 'getting it right in camera' with the rest of those sony settings (e.g Black Gamma)... as you say.... the video files are just too fragile after written, so writing them right in the camera can produce loads of advantages...
@josephatodaro
@josephatodaro Жыл бұрын
This video just changed me life. You are THE MAN.
@maddenfan6683
@maddenfan6683 3 жыл бұрын
Where can I find a good tutorial on grading this specific setup?
@iamRickBonilla
@iamRickBonilla 3 жыл бұрын
Caleb your the man, always has the right answer my favorite and first Film Channel I’ve ever Subscribed to!!!!
@InventiveImagery
@InventiveImagery 4 жыл бұрын
Sony is like “crap he found the fine print” .. super interesting about S-Gamut
@AlvinDedeauxFlyFishing
@AlvinDedeauxFlyFishing 4 жыл бұрын
😂
@rsmith02
@rsmith02 4 жыл бұрын
It's not really true, though. It just means consumer Sonys have a smaller portion of s-gamut they can use. You can use the sgamut.cine ones that were explicitly designed for them instead.
@alexmartinez-rr6wi
@alexmartinez-rr6wi 3 жыл бұрын
I wonder if the same S-Gamut hoodwink applies for the FS-5
@StevieWyatt
@StevieWyatt 2 жыл бұрын
Great video, really helpful, especially for someone quite new to video like me. You explained it in a way even I can understand! Thanks!
@boonyasit27
@boonyasit27 3 жыл бұрын
I have tried your setting today and .... god this is the result is amazing!! I also have some question about this setting, shu I overexposure for 2 stop as usual? it seems like I can expose like CINE and HLG Picture profile.
@vyshnav5013
@vyshnav5013 3 жыл бұрын
Great video bruh ! I’ve been using cine4 on my a6500 but I sure will give this a try. Please do make a video in the future on how to expose for these settings and what settings to use in low light . But still very informative . Thanks !
@RyanAnthonyDigitalMedia
@RyanAnthonyDigitalMedia 4 жыл бұрын
PP8/Cine4 works great
@mreleven7826
@mreleven7826 3 жыл бұрын
I don't know anything about i cameras,but I trust you to guide me . Thank you for the content
@frankisimo100
@frankisimo100 3 жыл бұрын
wow, I always use the S-Gamut color space and it gives a lot of banding most part of the time, thank you so much for this tutorial, I'll try your recommendation when I go out and record something
@AM2PMReviews
@AM2PMReviews 4 жыл бұрын
Just got a A6600 and love the new grip and battery from my A6400. With my ND filters I get weird magenta and green tones so I used your tips for perfect colors with the video passport and now I will use these new tips. With the 8 bit codec...it seems a lot of people don’t prefer the SLog and I have some issues with colors in HLG which was supposed to correct these a lot of issues. I heard HLG was the best too but maybe that is only true for 10 bit. I will try these new tips since I currently just shoot with a slightly desaturated standard profile with sharpening turned down and it seems very easy to work with and I only have to fix the green and magenta some,
@AllThingsFilm1
@AllThingsFilm1 4 жыл бұрын
I just tried your settings on my a6400. Looks great. And I mainly adjusted contrast.
@dannyly
@dannyly 3 жыл бұрын
Tried this on the new A7C and I think it looks great! Thanks for the tips!
@zachrowton703
@zachrowton703 2 жыл бұрын
Wow, what a helpful video! I am definitely going to try this, thank you so much! You earned a sub.
@goestas
@goestas Жыл бұрын
I know this is old news for most by now, but for us ZV-E10 users still very relevant, so thank you for your efforts. However, in doing my own tests, I don't really understand the supposed benefits of S-Log2 in Rec 709. I agree that there are fundamental issues with S.Log2 in S-Gamut3.cine, but that seems to be in part a color mapping issue that isn't actually as severe in S-Gamut. Regardless, What I'm really asking is, how is S-Log2 in Rec 709 any more advantageous than, say, Cine1 or Cine2? Those at least use the entire breadth of the available luminance values. S-Log2, on the other hand, forces the base ISO up to 500 (on the ZV-E10) and ignores about the bottom 10% of luminance entirely (which makes total sense in 10 bit). So yes, it mostly avoids the added noise that way, but don't you lose that amount of rgb info as well? Because when converting to Rec 709 you essentially stretch 90% (or so) of the recorded signal to 100% again. I know I'm probably over-simplifying or not understanding the relationship between image information and sensor data. But practically speaking, am I not better off with a full range of rgb data from 0-255, captured without artificial signal boosting (i.e. higher ISO), in Cine1 (0-109% brightness at 125 ISO, recorded as r,g,b, 0,0,0-255,255,255) or Cine2 (0-100% at 100 ISO, same) than S-Log2 in any color space (0-106% at ISO 500, recorded as approx. 20,20,20-255,255,255)? And really, all I want is a robust profile for documentary shooting, where I can't be worrying about switching those settings when the light changes. That's a bit like changing film stock in mid-shoot.
@davidgriffin79
@davidgriffin79 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks, I've been banging my head against the wall trying to get the log profiles on the A7iii to look half decent out of Resolve for some time; this did it👍
@sanjaysingha8911
@sanjaysingha8911 3 жыл бұрын
If you use resolve you can get good results using color transformation in resolve. I guess a youtube made a video on that. I don't remember his channel name but sure you can search for it.
@whatilovetofilm
@whatilovetofilm 3 жыл бұрын
Hi @Caleb, Thanks for sharing your knowledge with us, What LUT do you recommend when i use ITU709 Matrix color mode. I can you use regular slog2 to rec 709 ? Please let me know.
@thomasshakelton
@thomasshakelton 2 жыл бұрын
Did you find an answer to that, I’m having the same question?
@johnnykyr3403
@johnnykyr3403 4 жыл бұрын
thanks! colors look so much better and livelier right off the camera!
@silverlightphotoco
@silverlightphotoco 3 жыл бұрын
Wow! I don't even own a Sony (I have 2 Panasonic GX85s) but I really like the way you take the simple starting point for getting good color. I am creating a set of what I call "Base LUTs" which are intended to take take footage from any sensor (camera)/lens combo and tweak it to make it look as realistic as possible, and this would be a good starting point...
@tonypmedia
@tonypmedia 5 ай бұрын
Wow thank you for this video, this explains why my videos literally suck and why when I grade the output is just pure shit. I'm new to this cinema scene but not dumb with the technology... S-Gamut I always felt I had to overwork. i guess it's time to get a better camera or as you did, stop using it. THE BEST video on youtube right now!
@maciejkobus
@maciejkobus 4 жыл бұрын
Glad to see a new video. Especially recently when you were less active.
@dslrvideoshooter
@dslrvideoshooter 4 жыл бұрын
Getting back in the saddle!
@amitanand498
@amitanand498 4 жыл бұрын
More active on watching others content,(gerald undone and others). And in this way they looks like our family members.
@texashammer4
@texashammer4 3 жыл бұрын
so helpful! Thanks for making complex color science simple.
@b3naqua
@b3naqua 4 жыл бұрын
Whoaaaa I've never even heard of the ITU709 Matrix stuff before. I just default to the Standard setting on the a6400 cuz I'm impatient lol, but now I want to experiment w these settings! Thanks Caleb
@nickpedroza
@nickpedroza Жыл бұрын
Super helpful! Was wondering why my a7iii footage was breaking apart
@randallburgess6393
@randallburgess6393 3 жыл бұрын
Does that picture profile adjusted work for the a6300
@xhalogirlx
@xhalogirlx 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for making this video!! Apparently all the settings i messed with, weren't the correct ones. I use a Sony A6600 for streaming, and no matter what i always look red. But these settings fixed it. You rock !
@drafeirha
@drafeirha 3 жыл бұрын
in my personal testing i found that the colours in s gamut 3 cine look the best. the itu matrix setting is too magenta and messes up skintones. to get richer colors in camera i bumped up the saturation to +25 and tweaked the settings in colour depth to my liking. the result is an image that has good dynamic range yet isnt too pale so you dont need to make aggressive adjustments in post that would cause artifacts.
@zambitogaetano
@zambitogaetano 2 жыл бұрын
i also use mine a6500 with this trick +25 of saturation
@itsKEVO
@itsKEVO 3 жыл бұрын
thank you for this video! used for my sony 6400 and now I love the look.😁
@IsaacRC
@IsaacRC 4 жыл бұрын
Wow thanks! I’ll try that for sure! Would be awesome if more people share their own experiences customizing PPs, I tested comparing color palettes and found the (fake) s-gamuts was the most accurate of all in the range of magenta-browns-yellows for low light when all other oversaturate with a horrible magenta tint.
@user-rj7mn7ne1w
@user-rj7mn7ne1w 4 жыл бұрын
LOve your video calleb, always so informative and helpful, looking forward to upcoming video talking about color grading sony slog2 footage in FCPX
@stefanreijn6054
@stefanreijn6054 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much! this has been resolving some issues!
@AxelLopez
@AxelLopez 3 ай бұрын
How does one go about exposing for this PP set up ?
@_Birdyfilms
@_Birdyfilms 2 жыл бұрын
Im using the ITU709 Matrix with cine2 and i love the result
@apereeira
@apereeira 4 жыл бұрын
Amazing stuff! love the channel and the great content as I am getting more and more into video.
@JETallacksen
@JETallacksen 2 ай бұрын
When you buy a new camera, do you put any sort of protection on it? A silicone skin, or a monitor screen cover, etc.? I just bought a Sony A6400, and this video was very helpful! Thanks!
@feryjory
@feryjory 4 жыл бұрын
Great info as always, will definitely try these settings on my A7III 👍
@animalejocorpeno80
@animalejocorpeno80 3 жыл бұрын
hey caleb thanks for the video, have you tried these settings but using bt2020 color space? it´s supposed to give bigger DRange
@MrChanw11
@MrChanw11 4 жыл бұрын
I always wondered why it did this. The banding was horrible when I would try to grade, Ill give this a try!
@rsmith02
@rsmith02 4 жыл бұрын
The banding is from 8-bit. If you must shoot log use the s gamut 3 Cine instead.
@RichieToaMills
@RichieToaMills 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks man, great video, will definitely try this setting
@WhipahSnapah
@WhipahSnapah Жыл бұрын
Jesussss, this helped out so much man. Does this also help by reducing noise in the footage? It seems like I’m not getting as much noise in my footage now, if any. Idk, maybe its just me?…
@mikener
@mikener 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you Caleb, that was super informative as always.
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