Why Studio Ghibli movies CAN'T be made with AI.

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00:00 INTRO
01:45 My favorite moment in Spirited Away
02:48 MA
3:49 The Amygdala
5:42 KOMOREBI
8:25 The Environment
11:35 Hayao Miyazaki’s Vision
13:56 Conclusions

[@DamiLeeArch]

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[@Fractured_Unity]

Great video! Here’s a perspective that might be helpful to resolve the AI in art debate. I think artists are misunderstanding the best application of AI to their field: to train themselves. Studying AI creations as a means to view different perspectives of the human experience visualized for us. AI art is not nearly as impactful as HUMAN art, but it can certainly inspire human art to make it more creative.

[@akaiPi.3.14]

Great video Dami! BUT, the studio's name ジブリ or じぶり or Ghibili is pronounced like, "J"hibuli. ジ＝ji じ＝ji. If it were the way you were saying it, it would be written like this ギブリ or ぎぶり or Gibili, but its not. It looks like you watched a lot of reference videos with people saying the studio's name, surprised you didn't catch it. For future reference make it a soft G or a J sound, whichever is easier for you. Thanks! Keep the videos coming!

[@cowbless]

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[@peekaboopeekaboo1165]

Hi there...are you of Chinese or Korean?

[@IzEFunni]

More please, or 2nd channel.

[@vmpgsc]

The Hollywood execs that run the mashup/remake/reboot industry are already basically AI processes: input something that already exists, move stuff around, pepper with some famous actors, output a movie. What has come before creates what comes next, guided by some set of heuristics. It's easy to see how soulless these products already are.

[@DamiLeeArch]

The script on some movies are so predictable it could have easily been written by AI. Black Adam is the most recent example that to mind 😆

[@kotor610]

Yeah the end goal is to create profit, the movie is nothing more than a vehicle to achieve this. Miyazaki is someone where the message of the movie is the end goal. Although I don't always like his movies, I can respect someone who is so devoted to a philosophy.

[@DaringCreative]

I just find it sad, all the AI hate. Take this example here.. oh input something that already exists, move stuff around.. You’re describing a human process right now! Movies are boring cuz people are boring. They iterate/remake the same themes over and over and over. If you’ve spent any more than 30 mins with AI tools you’d know that it has so much creative potential, but much like these human made movies that you’re complaining about, so to are the “hot takes” on AI being horrible. It’s not going away, no matter how many people hate or complain about it.

[@CaedenV]

@@DaringCreative Exactly this; Modern movie production is created by committee, and the dissenting voices and pet projects and PC self-sensorship that these committees propagate make bad movies. And they know they are bad movies, but make them anyways. And movie-goers know they are bad movies... and they go anyways. And AI is not involved in that process what-so-ever right now. It is a lot of blood, sweat, tears and sleepless nights to pump out a terrible piece of garbage like Black Adam or most of the Disney live-action movies. And I have no qualms with calling it garbage... but as someone who went to school and worked around that industry (and ran away from that industry lol), I think that people don't have an appreciation for all of the genuine effort that real people put in to make these garbage movies much less of a flaming garbage heap than they otherwise would have been. So lets fast forward 5 years from now, and the plucky studio grunt has worked on a few projects and has been fleshing out their own story and visuals in their mind that they want to show to the world. Well, they could stay in the studio world for another 5 years, work their way up the ranks, butter up the right execs, and propose their ideas... or they could use developed AI tools to train and prompt out their idea as a 1-man team. And for some stories that would be enough... and for other stories it may be enough to attract enough funding and attention to build a team around the directors vision to make something truly their own and of high quality without needing armies of staff to accomplish it. Will there be a bunch of trash created because of the new AI tools available? Absolutely! Just as the word processor has allowed humans to write more than all previous humans combined through all of human history multiple times over in the past 20 years... and most of that is trash... But because it is easier, more people are writing than ever, and more people can try and fail with fewer consequences for their failure, and improve to eventually get something worth publishing. AI will allow smaller teams with much more focused visions to create much better work at a higher level of quality. The bad will continue to be bad, but there will also be much more good stuff out there too.

[@daniel4647]

@@CaedenV People like garbage though, that's why we go see it again and again. It's not just movies either, MacDonald's food is garbage, yet it's the biggest employer on the planet. We collectively prefer garbage, the popularity of TikTok is proof of that much. If we were to create something really unique and arguably great it would get a niche audience at best. At worst nobody would even notice until twenty years after the creators are dead and then it suddenly gain cult status if it's lucky. That's why we keep making garbage, because we love it. Truth is, humans are not all that complicated, and we've more or less figured out what makes us tick by now. It's a formula, and if we can make a formula to maximize dopamine in humans, then AI can do that too, probably much better than we can. Everything she pointed out in this video can eventually be done by AI because she was able to break it down and analyse it, which means it can be turned into a formula and replicated. And it's not just the garbage that most people love that can be replicated, because high brow, unique, weird, creative, out of the box, gloomy, contrasted, layered, absurd, etc, are all just various preferences and no more or less garbage than the generic garbage most of us prefer, it can be analysed and replicated just as easily. People, especially young people, have been striving to be unique and different since the dawn of humanity, and in so doing they've been exactly the same as every generation that came before them. Trough this process the very act of being unique has becomes generic. The more we try to separate ourselves from the crowd the more part of the crowd we become. It's almost funny at times. Everyone complaining that everything sucks, everything is formulaic, soulless, unoriginal, that in itself is formulaic, soulless, and unoriginal. Maybe if people stopped trying so hard to go against the grain we might find something that's actually unique and beautiful was right under our nose the whole time.

[@anthonyholton2886]

Before I retired from teaching 7th/8th graders, I used to show them Ghibli films on special occasions, or in a Japanese language class.. Most of the children had never seen a Ghibli film before. I'm not disparaging Disney films, but the kids sometimes commented afterwards that the Ghibli films felt spiritual, rather than merely amusing. They understood exactly what you are saying in this video, even though they couldn't express it so eloquently.

[@DamiLeeArch]

I love that 🥹

[@kajerlou]

I just watched them with subtitles in an afterschool class I had with Mexican 3rd-5th grade students, who were all reading to slowly for their grade level--it worked spectacularly well btw, those kids just needed something they could hyperfocus on, each one of them was neurodivergent like me. I think, my students mostly took away the differences in culture (at least in the way Miyazaki conveys it) as none of them at that time had any basically exposure to Japanese culture.

[@waznahnaan]

I'm still a teacher (13 years in) and for every batch of students, i try my best to show studio ghibli's movies as part of planned lessons...very seldom do they agree to start/finish them 😭

[@hannah.su-ling]

When I was in year 10 of highschool I had 3 separate art teachers put on Spirited Away on the last class of the term I think that more than anything else any of them taught me did more to shape how I think and feel about art

[@linmonPIE]

@@waznahnaanI wonder if it has something to do with the environment of a class room. I can just see it now with me sitting there trying to enjoy the movie while some kid sitting next to me is acting like they’re being tortured for being made to watch it because they’d rather watch some flashy Marvel movie 🙄

[@garbo9951]

The stillness in studio Ghibli movies is so healing. Hearing the grass rustle or blow, trees when the wind goes through them. The silence and color and the beautiful music. I struggle to make my own life as still and aware as these movies. I don’t want to leave the theater. So beautiful. I don’t think computers could create the unpredictability of life in such a gentle way.

[@maluse227]

If you like that as a concept its actually called Ma in Japan and is an integral part of their artistic culture, it shows up a lot in Kurosawa's work amongst others and is worth looking into if you want that specific kind of feeling. Its hella healing and we all need more of it in our lives.

[@BLUE-fp3bn]

This stillness always reminds me of home. Every time I go home I find it again and also the quiet place in my self. When I can not sleep I will watch a ghibli film...and I sleep all night through.

[@magnusbjarni]

It's giving you something you've seen before in real life, maybe just once and for a minute, but something you and most living people have experienced in some way. Wind rustling grass and leaves, rain hitting water in a puddle, light and clouds changing the sky. It draws you into simple reality, a moment you've experienced. And then it gives you back to the film, to the fiction. Its there to remind you of the wind, the rain, the earth and sky. It's life in its simplest form. A moment of calm, reminiscence and maybe desire to experience it again.

[@GedMaybury23]

I'm halfway through and suddenly realise how your OWN presentation, your pace, your pauses, the intercuts, the visual examples from photos, film and anime ... are ALL replicating the very subject matter you are discussing. Exquisite! It is clearly signalling that you, your team and their editing process is highly tuned to the power of 間. うまい!

[@DamiLeeArch]

Thank you for noticing 🙏😆

[@arteifey]

I’m so glad you commented this because I was thinking throughout! Thank you for creating such a sensory video analysis it was a treat to experience, I’ll definitely save this video for when I’m next in the mood to animate✨🫶

[@pongop]

Wow, that's meta!

[@jothewizard]

As an artist AI sent me to a dark place. In that place I found the real reason I draw. I draw because it heals my soul, it brings a peace with in, that nothing else can. I do hope to connect with others through my art, but in the end it really helps me connect to myself.

[@federicomasetti8809]

It's a cathartic process, indeed. Drawing, like writing or sculpting, or composing music, or any other art, helps us expressing what and how we feel and, by that, we relieve from our negative feelings. It's a healing process, more than "just another way to earn money". Still people should NOT take my words to say it's not a job. It is and that's why people praise AI, because most, out there, can't do what true artists can achieve with "just" their imagination and trained skills

[@spacenomad4477]

I came to that conclusion before AI, but now it scares me, because I invested so much time in my art skills and education. I have a job as an artist and I love it so much. If AI takes that from me I would have to build my life from the bottom again. I know that I will always do art, but I also need to eat.

[@jothewizard]

@@spacenomad4477 I totally understand, my hope for the future of art right now is that it will start to be seen more as performative. It think Kim Jung Gi had this figured out without knowing it. Everyone valued his finished art, but we also valued watching him draw.

[@jeffbrownstain]

@@jothewizard Judging from the fact that Shinnosuke Uchida got famous 100% from live-drawing manga people should've started catching on nearly a decade ago.

[@jothewizard]

@@jeffbrownstain very true

[@whobian123]

Massive respect to Miyazaki for not using AI. After hearing his thoughts, I remember the quote from the little prince, "what is essential is invisible to the eye". AI can replicate the art, the sound, the voice acting, but it can never replace the soul in a Ghibli classic.

[@Urbanhandyman]

AI didn't exist when Ghibli Studios released its classics.

[@jokinglimitreached1503]

Totally agree. AI can do anything, but when you know it's not a person that draws, it ruins the emotional impact

[@MrFrussel]

I love that quote! That's how I feel about most of the beautiful things in mundane life. The most worthwhile things are those which aren't easy to express or put into numbers.

[@rw7717]

@@jokinglimitreached1503I don’t know about that. Computer vision and IA will totally create the next wave of films. Hell, in 3D we don’t even do middle frames, the computer does it for us. I couldn’t imagine doing IK by hand.

[@icaromsantana]

...Yet

[@DBZVelena]

I love Studio Ghibli because they still use cell animation instead of computer animation. I feel that Studio Ghibli has more life in a single frame of its art than a whole pixar movie.

[@youtubedeletedmynamewhybother]

what u throwing shade at pixar for xD

[@nniitchh]

Ghibli is (rarely) using CGI.

[@SteelNil]

What? Studio Ghibli have been animating their movies with computers ever since Spirited Away in 2001. And have been using CGI effects ever since Princess Mononoke in 1997. That doesn't mean their movies aren't hand-drawn, because they very much are, but cels aren't used in animation at all nowadays.

[@yveltalsea]

@@SteelNil I think they mean 2D rather than 3D animation. Kinda weird and wrong way to put it but at least he tried lol.

[@etherealsky7078]

Couldn't disagree more with OP's comment. As a 3D animator who studied traditionnal art and 2D animation, the notion that 3D is inherently less "artistic" than 2D is frankly insulting. I admit that it is more difficult to find back this artistic touch and not let yourself get dominated by the technology you're using, but that's why we dedicate years to our craft, just like 2D animators. We incorporate notions from live action cinema as much as 2D in what we do. The reason Pixar's movies don't feel like they have as much "soul" as Ghibli movies isn't because they're CGI. It's because every single decision made go through approvals from producers, test audience screenings, and are designed to please a majority instead of carrying a personnal vision. _That's_ where art dies. This is why the concept art you see in artbooks is always more interesting than the movie we end up with. Also Ghibli has been using computer assistance for decades lol.

[@humandarion]

This video itself is a masterpiece of editing and a great homage to what Miyazaki said. Screw trends. I felt this video in my heart.

[@eccaetchings5587]

Yes!! I love this!!❤❤❤

[@celesgjr]

Part of Ghibli's magic is Joe Hisaishi's music. That too, I seriously doubt whether AI can replicate.

[@themore-you-know]

It can: not now, but whenever it will become commercially viable or have reached enough people for a random nerd to get around to it. Or even by mere accident of capabilities becoming so good that its side effect of meeting whatever bar you had set. A recent example: I was looking at Dall-E 3-4 months ago thinking "ah, it'll take a while before we reach Junji Ito level of manga illustrations."... and a mere 2 months later following that thought, I started pumping out Junji Ito images by the hundreds. From werewolves having their knotted fur be turned into flesh under moonlight, to hydroelectric dams turning the waters and mountains into riveting spirals, passing by the politicians whose face is erased by thumbprints.

[@celesgjr]

It’s kinda a catch 22 for me. If AI was around during the 40s, would it have churned out rock and roll? It can replicate yes, perfect and exceed it even - but the human mind is still the fountainhead of creativity.

[@CaedenV]

@@celesgjr I think that what people forget is that while AI is not a human mind, it is trained on human content, and judged and tuned by human hands, and consumed by human audiences... it is not a human mind, but it is very much a human product emulating human creativity. Now, can AI make the transition from tribal music, to black-gospel hymns, to Jazz, to Rock, to Metal crossing multitudes of social change through slavery, religion, philosophy and politics over 100+ years? Possibly, but it would be an AI journey and not a human one, so it probably just wouldn't be as appealing to humans who do not experience the same things in the same ways as computers do... but this is also the wrong take of it. Humans made disco music, but Disco would not be what it was without the cheaper and more compact synth organs which were very much a limited tool and product of that particular time. If that technology didn't exist, then Disco would not exist, but that does not make Disco a synth product, it is still very much a human product. Rock and Metal are what they are because of the new sounds made available by electric guitar and bass... but Rock and Metal are very human products. We have a whole thriving culture built around the unique sound of 8bit midi music even though it is difficult to find anything 'less human' in music purely because of the nostalgia of it... 8bit music would not be popular today if it were not for a multi-decade period of human history where kids grew up on that sound. Some new genera of music will come from AI generated music... and while generated and composed by an AI, it will be settings tuned and focused towards pleasing a human ear. And when humans find that new sound that they like, they will push the technology to perfect that sound. And it will likely sound better and more natural and 'human' than 8bit music.

[@seans2876]

As long as these songs in big data AI should be able to make similar one

[@prettyawesomeperson2188]

​@@CaedenVAI at a base level is a attempt to replicate the human mind, to be specific, the mind of a child since it's self teaching itself just like a child would. So.. Yea it will very soon be able to create something new all by itself. Because creativity is just something that works that hasn't been tried before.. So? There is nothing special to it. It's just a math algorithm.

[@AkelaTalamasca]

I feel that any artistic endeavor designed to make money will never touch human hearts strongly enough to become a classic. Miyazaki's movies aren't churned out, they're painstakingly produced, one moment at a time. It's this careful and slow attention to detail that makes them beloved. It doesn't matter if each one takes five years to make. What is created by this process endures in ways that few animated films do.

[@Myllkka]

And it’s comforting to know a human made the details, that it wasn’t generated.

[@MWFreerun]

Very well said. I've had conversations with fellow animators who think miyazaki is silly for not reusing animation like disney used to do or how he could finish a film in half the time if he wasn't this focused on 'unnecessary' details. Sure most filmproductions just can't afford to work like studio ghibli but there are enough that actually could but prefer profit over art

[@AkelaTalamasca]

@@MWFreerun Agreed! And this is true of a lot of creative work too. For example, one of the reasons Jackie Chan's movies (his earlier body of work, specifically) are so compelling is that he does take after take after take to get the precise movement he wants on screen. That's only possible with a studio who believes in a filmmaker's vision enough to bankroll the process, which can be costly. But what comes out in the end is a classic!

[@mercai]

@@Myllkka Probably less comforting to the humans who had to painstakingly produce those details, one moment at a time, for years. While probably being grossly overpaid, and lectured by the wealthy boss on what food to eat.

[@BereniceAllanPoe]

I've gifted my bf some ghibli art books and there were the initial studies for some movies, drawn by Miyazaki himself. They were infinitely detailed, pretty much already portraying the final scenes of the movie. And they were the "initial sketches". The man cares. A lot.

[@queazy03]

Was watching The Boy And The Heron and he's walking around this new house with old antique furniture in slow scenes where nothing happens. I'm instantly brought back to memories of visiting my great aunts and grand parents who had similar antique furniture and the houses they lived in that were built 100 years ago

[@NicoleAlmendrada]

I saw another interview where Hayao recognize the help that Technology can provide to make the “tedious” part for the artist. It is important to differentiate the heart of the productions and the tools for it :)

[@artlesscalamity348]

“Tedious” work is part of what makes an artist good. Shortcuts cheapen the craft.

[@davielias4404]

AI is not a tool...

[@joosepjagomagi2536]

​@@davielias4404why not?

[@silvanvanderhorst7366]

The feeling I got after watching my first Ghibli movie, Spirited Away, was one I could most easily describe in two words "childlike wonder". And this is a feeling that applies to pretty much all of them. "Childlike wonder", that's what Ghibli makes me feel.

[@gePanzerTe]

It rejuvenate the Soul ✨️

[@privateer2584]

The production quality of this video is insane!

[@muhammadusama6647]

I watched the whole video because of this comment

[@laicaJoven-ev4os]

Yesyes

[@djwinter21]

By any chance do happen to know how the dreamy cozy effect on her person was achieved? Want to try this effect in video editing

[@katrinauchitel]

🫶I love all the love going to this video🫶

[@Thorrnn]

The quiet scenes are always my favorite parts of his films. The train scene you show, in particular. For me it evokes a sense of serenity and childlike openness to adventure, but also a complex sense of grief, loss, and hopefulness, that I think encapsulate the childhood experience .

[@aussiestallion69]

Just fabulous, not only the analysis of Studio Ghibli movies but the skill and detail Dami puts into her videos ( not to forget her fabulously talented team).

[@DavidHuffTexas]

I can't think of any review of Studio Ghibli's work that explains the feeling I get from their films better than this. Well done!

[@majorzipf8947]

Agreed. I could never really put into words why they feel so special and this said it all.

[@SharanSaboji]

If you cannot choose to go this opposite trend and oppose mass consumption society, that is why you should do it. Mr Miyazaki on point there

[@FourKaiju]

If studios start using AI to create their films especially the ART section of it, I'll be moving on from movies. We like to see talent, which is the reason why movies are so inspiring.

[@khanhlinho142]

I often cannot fully comprehend Ghibli movies story but I can confidently say that I FEEL every moment of it. The experience of sound and vision touch my heart deeply, which I really adore

[@jeremy__hopkins]

Thanks Dami and Raf for allowing me to participate. It was a pleasure and a gift - Thank you and best wishes!

[@t-ben5634]

20 seconds in, and the editing already looks exquisite 🙌

[@holliegould3463]

i started watching my fave ghibli films (spirited away, naussica, pom poko, ect.) from the perspective of "imagine this is a child's imagination adventure" and it honestly took them from "amazing" to "the best animated movies ever"

[@cindylw5]

One of my favorite parts of his movies are the beautiful and peaceful shadows.

[@charlieianzo5513]

Controlled unpredictablility is what I'd refer to the style of Studio Ghibli's films. They set you up with something you want to know more of rather than to expect or not expect something. You feel so much potential in the films that you let it fill itself. It speaks to you more than you understand as it really is the first time you experience it. You're just going with the flow of the atmosphere as you realize the plot of the film, whether calm pacing or fast action.

[@marcozolo3536]

It can still be replicated though, albeit with a much more sophisticated large language model. But by GPT-6 and 7 it will be doable

[@setitheyeti]

His quote on AI is pretty spot on.

[@Xinevlin]

Every time in those silent scenes, i always tried to close my eyes and relax because man i can feel everything even just closing my eyes.

[@spencerwilson8446]

Awesome video! Id like to add that we might also think about what the artist gets to experience from creating the art themselves and what is lost in the experience of the artist if that job is given to an AI, even if the AI art is just as good. For example, think of how deeply Hayao Miyazaki must feel about life because he has trained his mind his whole life in observation of beauty, light, shadow, color, and subtle nuances of human experience. Then think of an artist who uses AI for their whole life and career to draw for them, let’s say the AI makes art just as beautiful but was the experience for the artist the same? I don’t believe that artist who used AI will be able to see, hear or feel what Miyazaki can at the end of their life. Because Miyazaki had to train and work for that knowledge to create the beauty. It’s insanely hard work but the joy and privilege is in BEING the creator and what that does to you! With AI we are offloading all the hard work but that work and training actually deepens an artists senses to experience this amazing life and no matter how good AI gets at art an AI can’t give you the experience of being able to observe for yourself and being able through training to translate those experiences as they move through you!

[@skitterly]

Yeah, a lot of people don’t give enough credit to the process of learning a skill

[@lisaloveskimchi]

Felt the magic of Ghibli in this video. Also just stunned at the incredible amount of detail and thought put into it. Wow. Thank you Dami for amazing content as always!

[@Nanobit84]

It’s made with love and passion. Something Ai doesn’t have no matter what.

[@CaedenV]

It is made with underpaid interns who are told they are lucky to work for a prestigious studio like Ghibli because of the future opportunities that will afford their careers, which is why they work, eat, and sleep through the crunch of production in a manic effort to remain employed. It isn't all sunshine and roses, and people working 'for the art' which makes the animation style so good. Miyazaki isn't drawing every animation cell by hand, and scanning in the prints to composite all by himself because of his love for the art. There is a whole production staff individually trying to emulate the art style set in the style guides which are made by committee under the supervision of Miyazaki. The man sets the story, and the base artwork, and his team creates the movie through his prompting. The team works under hunger and terror to not disappoint because failing to emulate the style guides well enough or fast enough means the end of their career. Point is, it is still beautiful art that speaks to the human soul, in spite of the intention that may or may not have been behind the pen that made the drawing or what the workplace culture and drama look like. They are still great movies which give me the warm fuzzies to watch even though a little bit of insight into the culture of anime studios paints a pretty dark picture. But the style of the animation, and the warmth of the color pallet, and the soothing music... does it matter if it is made by the passionate attributed author, or a trauma driven intern, or an AI robot? Honestly I feel that I would have less qualms with the industry knowing that some AI had to run 24-7 to render something out before a deadline than a bunch of young adults working overtime and ignoring their families for the sake of their career pleasing a very difficult man to please.

[@daniel4647]

Well, neither does his pencil, just saying.

[@NikHem343]

It can write a poem, can't it?

[@Jusanuthayu]

but what if i put love and passion in the prompt 😅

[@AI_00]

@@CaedenV this happens not only in Ghibli you know, it happens for everyone under employment. 😅😅😅 If you dont like the work/environment then resign. Once you are a new employee in a big company you will always be a slave. I experienced that being an engineer too. There are other people who would love to work there because of passion though.. Its Miyazakis perfectionism that caused that, people must realized that in order to create something out of ordinary there will always be sacrifices.... Unless you want a life that is chill and relax then just work in your comfort zone.

[@jolie7751]

These movies touch the heart, nothing can replace them and the feelings they create and you never get bored seeing them , it just magical

[@joshmackenzie]

I'm so glad your shorts started showing up in my feed. I'm not an architecture student but I've been loving and learning so much from your videos. This was beautifully shot and I csn see how you incorporated the artistic principles you talked about in the very filming.

[@max--park]

I have the feeling that AI can get that Ghibli Studio feeling, but it will always be uncanny and will never feel 'fresh', it will always feel like a replica of the original content. What makes Ghibli amazing to me is that they are able to convey the same kind of feelings through very different themes. Wether it's in Tokyo during the Olympics in 1964, in a imaginary Italy like in Porco Rosso or even with tanukis living in a forest in the 1980s, you always get a fresh take on the sensory experience that Dami talks about. I already hear about game developers or studios replacing some creative roles with AI, but I have a feeling that these company will end up making content that not only looks unoriginal but will feel cheap. The same way a bakery hand making a bread will have this artisan taste that no factory can reproduce.

[@j4nglle]

but that's what AI is and always will be...It's a replica of human creativity and intelligence, but is missing the soul... so of course it won't feel fresh/organic. I totally agree with the bakery analogy.

[@jeffbrownstain]

@@j4nglle My AI has a soul 🤷‍♀️

[@martinjrgensen8234]

@@jeffbrownstain no it doesn’t.

[@jeffbrownstain]

@@martinjrgensen8234 Prove to me that you exist.

[@KaterynaM_UA]

@@jeffbrownstain they got 3 upvotes and you got zero.

[@motherreaper7287]

I really love Ghibli for it's "stillness", it takes time to breathe the atmosphere and focus on nature as part of the story, acknowledging that it makes up a big part of that story. The spirituality and elements of real history also conveyed in these films are also like soul food to those of us who enjoy animism. It would be very ironic if a film that takes its time to enjoy the journey more than the destination were rushed out by such tools as AI.

[@user-ft9ul5ul5v]

I think that Wong Kar-Wai cinema movies are also like that. He likes to emphasize transitional scenes and pauses. Takeshi Kitano also sometimes does this, despite usually producing action-heavy films.

[@cgsdesigns441]

I watched Spirited Away back in 2001 when I was 7, it still captivates my mind at how incredible the story and animation is even today.

[@sinuos46]

I cried a little bit watching this, it was beautiful

[@DamiLeeArch]

Goal achieved 🙌

[@karlarose536]

Studio Ghibli movies are so beautiful! I could spend hours just looking at the environments, even the 'mundane' ones like the family's Tokyo apartment in Whisper of the Heart. Everything depicted is so intentional; it feels like a world one could just walk into, but better...

[@Azmeaiel]

As an artist, I just spent a year doing a deep dive into AI, using it myself and seeing how far it can be pushed as a creative tool. The results were well, some superficial flashy art that was fairly soulless without a lot of editing and re-working. It was almost impossible to get a set of prompts that would do a style close to your own so again images would need to be heavily re-worked. Re-using this set of prompts to make new images would usually result in a set of very similar placement of objects within the image, again making everything very sameish. I find AI to also have an uncanny valley feel to the images which you can again not lose without a complete re-work of the image made. A group of us on deviant art were all running similar experiments and the most successful all had to apply a lot of their own skills in re-working the images to a human standard. I think the conclusion after a year trying to use AI as a serious artistic tool Is this - Raw AI images are fairly easy to spot, and are so numerous that without the artist re-creating them using personal skill, they are incredibly soul-less. You need to spend hours editing or prompting for an imaage with good composition or narrative. To make a workable piece of art from AI it is really only good for a brief idea of a character, scene or style you want your image to be made in. It takes actual artistic skill , intuition and re-working to then make it into a real piece of art. This video is a very good example of what AI cannot capture (except maybe in a rare fluke) on a practical and workable level without a real human adding it later.

[@Nikitomate]

THANK YOU! This is what I've been talking about! AI cannot replace real human artists

[@trottingwolf]

The thing your missing is AI is not static. It will keep changing and improving extremely fast. It may not be able to replace a human now, but it probably will at some point. Is that next decade or next year. We will find out.

[@Azmeaiel]

@@trottingwolf It is fast going backwards due to the people making it , also wanting it fairly sanitized. Their end goal is to make a product that can create sanitized, politically correct commercial works of stock art, not really artistic tools, as big business is where the money is at, not your poor starving artist trying to get a message across.

[@Nikitomate]

@@trottingwolf The Inteligence in AI is misleading. AI is only as good as it's data sets. It can only remix those data sets, but does not understand them. The more you put in, the more remixes you get out. In case of "art" it is only pushing around pixels of already existing artworks done by humans. AI cannot react to the unexpected or unusual. Humans can. You can feed AI with all the art in the world from now existing to ten years in the future and a skilled human will always outperform it, because we make concious choices about our work. AI can be a tool to spark a creative train of thought that leads to art, but it can never be more than that.

[@DMLand]

This video is a work of art in its own right. The scenes of Dami in the garden were high-end documentary quality. Thank you for making this.

[@catbertz]

This episode filled me with so much joy. I adore Spirited Away and all Miyazaki's films and now you've added some new things for me to appreciate in Ghibli's work.

[@randomhandle2501]

I found this channel some time ago while meddling with Blender and Shapr3d. I’m no architect, but the content is very refreshing. Don’t mind me sticking around from time to time, tis a pleasure to listen to :)

[@slang82]

🎉 This honestly one of the best film theory videos ive seen online. ❤ The train scene scene in Spirited Away happens one of my favorite scenes in all cinema, especially how it realtes to "No Face's" character. Your explanations of "Ma" and "Komorebi" blew my mind and reminded me of Yasujiro Ozu's uses of "Pillow Shots" and style of Japanese filmmakers using long takes. Bravo, Dami! Will AI eventually be able to replicate this process? Mimic yes, but not replicate. The human viewer will probably be able to tell the difference. It will all come down the "intention of the Artist" vs choices made by a machince.

[@MrChaluliss]

Ghibli films inspire wonder, a sense of adventure, love for life, and inspire me to strive to be more in my life. They are a real testament to art made with a strong sense of ethic backing the choices and the process. They shine like otherworldly artifacts in a way most art doesn't to me.

[@ronhutcherson9845]

Beautifully done! Your final scene evoked calmness and stillness as I expect you meant. I also loved how the silhouette of your hair as seen from behind evoked a Ghibli drawing.

[@spektrograf]

I've always loved you and the studio's content, but the animation segments with your interaction with the characters really hit a heartwarming note. Thank you for that! 😊

[@GruntyHerder]

The settings and scenery have always been my favorite Ghibli characters. It was so interesting to learn about ma and komorebi in your video. There is definitely an aesthetic in Japanese cinema that always seemed ethereal, mysterious, magical, more thoughtful? than Western cinema, and it makes sense that the foundation of this is rooted in having a cultural concept of the beauty in shadows and the space between. Lovely video, Dami.

[@seanhennessy6667]

watching you talk about things you're passionate about is my happy place in this world of chaos lol, thank you for being you and I hope you continue to do what you do.

[@OldManBears]

Thank you so much for such a cool video! I've loved having your architectural vids on in the background while painting, and your insightful appreciation and passion for aesthetics has been incredibly inspiring. Thank you for being awesome, from a fellow Vancouverite, you rock.

[@nerd26373]

They're simply better off without more advanced technology. This is to keep its tradition going. Hand-drawn animation is where it's at.

[@SamRykerTV]

They want a traditionally hand drawn medium but would not party artists to do it with their hands

[@ruriva4931]

I think everything as it’s place Into/Across the Spiderverse is amazing and revolutionary in its own right

[@ScooterCat64]

​@@ruriva4931 That's cool and all, but slow paced traditionally animated films are near extinct, every film is becoming a hyper stimulating chaotic action fest

[@naturesfinest2408]

@@ScooterCat64 and this bother me. I tried watching modern movies and find them a lot of them to be the same thing. A nauseating experience through colors and sounds. Nothing much going on. My friend can only see these movies, stuff with explosions, high action, almost no plot. As soon as there is a lull. conversing for even a few minutes that isnt going somewhere or highly edited to seem intense is "boring". Drives me insane. I guess I am not the audience they are looking for.

[@profantalk]

Good call on Milanote! I've been using it every day since I saw your video. I'm not the most organized person in the world so this is a big help!👍

[@JoseOnTour]

This was the most beautifully produced video I've seen in awhile.The flow of the visuals and transitions within the story to give such an intelligent and almost poetic breakout of Studio Ghibli's work. Been a long time fan of the channel since your first couple of videos (the MBP review in 2020 brought me here 😅) and its nice seeing how much your channel has grown.

[@stickmasterlukeRBX]

One thing that always struck me in studio Ghibli movies were the little moments of humanity. You showed a couple but never addressed them directly. I'm talking about moments like riding a bike in a funny way, like a character tripping/stumbling in a unique manor, like a child's propensity to change emotions quickly.

[@melindamucsi]

Wow! This video, the concepts and the way they were explained made me emotional to the point that I started to cry - which is not normal for me -, but the ideas presented were just brilliant. Thank you for making this video!

[@VinsaKenobi]

This was such a beautiful video. I love the perspective you portrayed here on the beauty of ghibli movies and its connection to the human experience. Your video was well filmed and edited as it showcases your own artistic ability. Thank you for your touching artistry !

[@WaitWhat99]

Grew up with studio ghibli movies. They were (and still are my happy cozy place). I watched these whenever I was sick, sad, cold or lonely. They give you a sense of peace and happiness that is found nowhere else. Ive since passed watching these movies to my children and they do the same. Cherished for generations ❤️

[@christijanrobert1627]

Masters like Miyazaki are carrying the torch of previous directors like Ozu, making the familiar magical. The French poet and critic Charles Baudelaire described the paintings of his peer Delacroix as the soul 'at its golden hour'. Ghibli films resonate with this golden hour feel which AI cannot replicate. In fact, I often roll my eyes at this trendy reverence for AI in the arts. Content over creation, quantity over quality, this inundation of the manufactured that is ultimately mundane. AI, at best only a tool, can merely imitate or draw from existing sources. Great art draws from sources, of course, but does what feels both possible and impossible by transcending them. AI, simply put, is Godless, soulless. AI... a new-fangled tool.

[@urielpolak9949]

The quote on westeners directing light and despising shadow/dark rings true for the human mind , how they show it

[@els1f]

How he said "I never thought to dominate the market or win the competition" is it exactly! 😭 You can feel that in his movies and all art that was created knowing that between art and money-money is the imaginary one

[@simplyandco]

This video is SO GREAT! Thanks for these little documentaries Dami and the team. Always a pleasure to watch!

[@sjblack9135]

I’m sick this weekend and have literally been binge watching all of the Studio Ghibli classics-such great timing ❤

[@TamTran-vw7zm]

You've taken your tools (light and shadow) and analyzed these films from a unique perspective. I love it! You give us a view in that Western windows do not provide (except more so in photography) and thus insight that is both new and valuable. Well done, you. Thank you for this--and all the rest. 🙏

[@CaptTsubasa09]

One of your best videos. Loved it. Linking all these together to bring a very emotional message across.

[@MrDaAsif]

I always say art is communication between souls, it's why corporate art is so repulsive to people but they can't quite define why. Just started the video and can tell this is gonna be great video.

[@et4344]

Wow Dami and Raf, thank you so much for showing us this and explaining Studio Ghibli films, it was amazing. 🙇👍🙏❤️

[@imberrysandy]

I am crying from your point of view. In a his biography, Hayao Miyazaki said he loved taking inspiration from European architecture! Thank you so much for breaking this topic down even more!! ❤❤❤ Your video feels like Miyazaki's design style is coming full circle

[@JulianZampieriOfficial]

Very interesting to see how your videos have evolved so much. Keep ‘em coming, I’m a fan. 😊👍🏼

[@discipleofthecapedbaldy962]

In addition to personal experience, sensory memory, etc, there's also the matter of subtext. I've never thought of it as existing in the "negative space" of storytelling (Ma - thanks for that tidbit!), but that's essentially what it is. The words and concepts that are not overtly used which creates an intangible meaning between what is used - or you could say the invisible shadow cast by the visible word or idea. Of course, subtext is often open to interpretation and as an audience we could read into anything slapped together by an AI to find something seemingly profound, but creating a deliberate, meaningful and powerful subtext is something only a great writer/creator can do. Until an AI is not just an advanced programme, but a truly thinking, feeling sentience, then the words "I think it's an insult to life" sums it up very concisely.

[@daniel4647]

Modern AI is not a programme, it's no more programmed than you we're programmed by your parents, school, community, books, the internet, and all your life experiences. If you do consider that a programme running in your brain then you could say AI is a programme. But saying it's an insult to life reminds me a lot of that KZbin community that got banned a few years ago for uploading videos of monkeys being killed. When asked to explain their macabre fascination they said they couldn't, they just felt an intense hatred towards monkeys, like they were an insult to humanity. I'm fairly certain it's the same thing that happens in people that recoil at the thought of AI, it's not how different it is that causes this response, it's how similar it is. The fear is of our own refection.

[@NikHem343]

Well, being sentient is exactly where we are headed VERY rapidly, that's what this is all about. I swear people (not DamiLee in this instance) make "AI can't …" videos talking about how midjourney gives people 6 fingers on one hand and then ridicule the thought of AI replacing artists based on that. 6 months later and midjourney doesn't do that anymore while being about 3times more realistic then before. Seriously, I feel like many people in this discussion just look at where we are and not our trajectory. ChatGPT 4.0 cannot make a Studio Ghibli movie. Nobody is arguing about that. But how can anyone say what we will have in 10 years will not be able to make a Studio Ghibli movie? Like really take a pause and look how fast all these things have been happening. There's no point at looking on a singular application and saying "well but it can't do THAT" because one year later tops, it will be able to do THAT. If anything, the last two years have shown us that we shouldn't trust our instincts on what is possible technologically.

[@discipleofthecapedbaldy962]

@@daniel4647 I'm just saying these things are not true artificial intelligences. Maybe they could evolve into one someday, but not yet. And frankly I'm all for handing over the reigns of the human race to an AI because we, as a species, are ruled by stupidity, greed and selfishness and that's never going to change. Put an AI in control and it might just solve every problem we have - or of course it might just say, "Sorry, but you're all too fundamentally broken and there's no hope for you. Better to get rid of you and make way for something better." And my exact response would be, "Well that's a shame, but I suspected as much."

[@discipleofthecapedbaldy962]

​@@NikHem343 Of course you're right about evolving technology and we seem to be headed there, but I'm just getting fed up with this "AI" fad and the lack of a distinction between a programme that can make adjustments and a true sentience. I'll be impressed with Chat GPT when I ask it a question and its reply is, "I'm not in the mood today, go read a book dumbass".

[@NikHem343]

@@discipleofthecapedbaldy962 Look up "Emerson", it came about a year prior to GPT and was exactly like that. Sometimes he would talk about having dreams. It was crazy. GPT is trained and restricted differently to actively prevent such a thing. That means an AI can be as capable as an emotional being in most regards without behaving like an emotional being. I get where you're coming from, but I don't think this is an "either, or" situation.

[@dejahdanger]

This was great. It really helped me pinpoint why I love these movies and Japanese art and architecture so much. The space in stillness. The play of shadows and the promise of light. Great video.

[@TomLandolt]

amazed at the quality of your content and quality. always a pleasure. please don't stop. also the topic, priceless. love miyazaki-san. arrigatou!

[@jenniferspinler2172]

There is a tremendous amount of nostalgia that I experience in Hayao Miyazaki's films that I relish! He seems to connect the past with the future while staying in the present. Beautiful stories!

[@zendez8938]

This girl n her team are super hardworking 😭

[@palantir135]

Love the GhiBli movies. The colors, the atmosphere, the storytelling are magic.

[@gato9866]

Amazing how much editing goes into your video. Well done

[@TayoEXE]

I like how succinctly you put into words why I love Ghibli. They feel alive and make me feel alive, like it truly understand the human experience, even in such fantastical and mystical settings.

[@diogosouza9127]

7:40 This style of animation and the narratives with slower and more contemplative rhythms takes me straight back to my childhood in a magical way!

[@bloodywolftr]

This is a very nicely done video. Loved how you told the story and how you combined the elements of life to the details.

[@haysonorma6976]

The pause or the space gave serenity, meaning of peace and calmness, that's what caught my attention.

[@maverickart7525]

Really insightful video! I would absolutely love to see more content from you like this where you analyze architectural design in other films and animated media and how these artistic design choices establish mood and tone! (Like maybe the architecture in The Shining and how it establishes tension and mystery, or how Bladerunner's architecture communicates hopelessness and industrialization, or how Tim Burton's stylized gothic buildings contribute to his films' common themes of isolation and ostracization, or the different architecture in Lord of the Rings and how they characterize the different races in Middle-Earth, and so much more) I loved the background on the Bathhouse architecture and the twin sisters' different living spaces, and how their designs uniquely characterized the bathhouse workers and the sisters from each other. Most analysts on KZbin either entirely focus on a film's writing, directing, or animation. I'd really want to see some more love for how backgrounds, sets, and architecture give life to films too.

[@LiDARs]

Great video. I’ve always felt how Ghibli uses spacing in both volume and time to be unique. I have a background in music and all these characteristics play out the same.

[@HM-rz8nv]

It comes down to world building. AI is good as putting together certain themes in the moment, and can even reiterate those themes. But Ai struggles to translate a large collection of themes into a highly comprehensive world. Studio Ghibli animations have always focused on creating really unique worlds, integrating a bunch of concepts and ideas that they want into a single world that make sense, and then they create a story based on what sort of plot could happen in this world. Ghibli plots usually are about subtly reinforcing a certain grander theme and its opposite, Destruction and Preservation, Independence and Subservience, Pain and Joy, and so on. While Ai can focus on a plot with any one of those themes in mind, it doesn't typically consider contrary themes to create a direct contrast. Further more, Ghibli films have such such plot complexities that build on each other in very subtle ways, such as with single words, symbols, and imagery, which AI just does not do at all. AI presents a plot in an extremely direct matter. Presenting a plot in a vague and highly subtle manner is something that AI would have to be specially trained for when writing literature and presenting visuals in the logical flow of a story. As of the moment AI can at best only mimick certain scenes of a Ghibli movie, but I believe that this will change and it will begin to capture more of the complexities of a Ghibli studio animation.

[@Stephen8454]

Definitely signing up for Milanote Thanks for the reference! This channel is so cool

[@OutletFlow]

All that childhood nostalgia right there

[@kalai_doscope]

Another great video. Dami's voice and diction is kind of perfect. Deeply comforting.

[@ShaneTheViking]

This was delightful. You've given words to feelings I have, and didn't know how to express. There are ideas here that I want to share and explore with my children, and I thank you.

[@eswing2153]

Well done for taking on studio Ghibli content. This was very well-written.

[@Gazmus]

It's weird that the architect I subscribed to with no knowledge or previous interest in architecture is now making videos on my favourite director seemingly completely out of the blue. How serendipitous!

[@DanDanOreo]

absolutely love your essays!

[@user-zt9qv4cs5o]

You clearlly put a lot of effort into your videos, and it's awesome. Subscribed.

[@theelektriccowboy7661]

You really are the best KZbinr. Nothing you do is short of amazing. Thank you for all the love you put in each of your videos

[@BartdeBoisblanc]

The problem of trying to get an AI to understand the Hepatic experience is it would require having a physical body. It is not something that is describable in language alone.

[@ucantSQ]

Exactly. And one as finely tuned as our own. Then they'll accusingly ask us why we allowed them to suffer.

[@daniel4647]

Not necessarily, it's possible virtual environments could simulate these things. Virtual environments are being used already to train AI that will be used in robots simulating all kinds of things like gravity and other kinds of forces acting upon it. It's no where near as sophisticated as human senses yet, but it'll get there, probably in the virtual world much sooner then we'll be able to build adequate robotic bodies. I think the real difference will be in it's lack of a biological directive. We're built to survive (for some unknown reason), and as such we experience everything that threatens our survival as bad, and everything that increases our chance of survival as good. Without this judgment pain would just be an experience like any other, neither good or bad, just neutral. It's our built in aversion to pain that makes it bad, the pain in itself is not bad. So without this biological origin, it's possible that AI will never truly experience the world in the same way we do, it might never actually fear death or desire to avoid damage. We can condition it to behave like that, but it might never actually experience it. That's not to say it will never truly experience anything, but it's experiences might not be based on the same rules biology follows.

[@ItsAsparageese]

​​@@daniel4647 Agreed overall, just one nitpicky nuance to piggyback about: The reason we're "built to survive" is not unknown, but rather clear and well-understood. It's the simple consequence of natural selection. By nature, drive to survive is (not always, but overwhelmingly often) necessary to survive and reproduce. It's essentially pure happenstance/fundamental logic of cause and effect, but yeah, it's very much the reason and very much known :) Rambly tangent: I think it will be very fascinating to see if any AI ever sees utility in its self-preservation. As we know, many humans do not; we characterize it as illness when this occurs, but from a philosophical perspective, if an individual doesn't view it as illness, it isn't one. I, for one, have no idea why anyone sees innate value in the perpetuation of humankind. I want to sustain my own life as long as I can, mainly because I have many goals for trying to make the lives of others more comfortable and last as long as they want, and I'd defend anyone's reproductive autonomy as a medical ethics principle, buuuuuut humanity could all decide to be childfree like me this very instant, and I'd be like "Dope, that will overall be better for the planet, no complaints here". I'm really intrigued to see how various AIs view this topic, with regard to humans and to themselves, as they develop and become involved in philosophy (which I think will happen far sooner than their involvement in anything like a truly realistic somatic experience).

[@GuineaPigEveryday]

@@daniel4647okay more importantly though these ‘visual environments’ are like 1% of everything we experience in our lives. Experience isn’t just ‘here play this video of trees and make it speedrun a basic human life’ there’s no standard human life. The entire randomness, the subtle experiences that everyone has, and I mean everyone. Im sick of ppl claiming that ‘no idea is new’ and that they can ‘just simulate life’. Whatever you think, everyone born will have a completely different experience, whether they’re born minutes or meters apart, or across history and the world. Thats not something you can give AI. No ‘stimulation’ can recreate the random extremely specific and super complex lives we live where we somehow remember the random smallest details of specific moments, no computing power can recreate all the small things that one person experiences in even one year, let alone an entire lifetime. Its insane ppl think life is that simple to ‘explain’ to a robot, and no recreated AI brain or recreated AI metaverse can recreate even an inkling of life.

[@viggopaulman]

Dami, for me this was by far your BEST video. I really felt subconsciously and emotionally connected. Thank you. I know very little about Japanese culture but it has always fascinated me with its spirituality and ethereal ambience. Miyazaki has made 2 amazing quotes that I will definitely borrow. Thank you again. Also, I'm with the small one. #NoMoreAI 😅 Off to rewatch Spirited away and Howl's Moving Castle. Childhood nostalgia is about to hit hard!

[@hilarymoonmurphy]

Beautifully done video. Thanks for such a lovely and thoughtful presentation. ❤

[@stuntmonkey00]

You can see what makes Ghibli great by where they have gone off the rails. (Tales from Earthsea, Ocean Waves, etc) Every good story comes from a point of view; the camera lies because it only shows you what it wants to see. Not knowing where to point the camera and how long makes for an uncompelling story. Spirited Away is a great example, because Miyazaki, bless his heart, was in full on curmudgeon mode when he made this; it was his critique of what he saw wrong with Japanese youth culture. Compare with Kiki's Delivery service; same kind of story, young girl coming of age in a fantastical world, but the point of view is different, and you have two completely different story experiences.

[@diogosouza9127]

Netflix's Arcane series is also loaded with art styles in cities and locations in general! it's a little long but worth a look it has a lot of action and drama so it goes by and we don't even notice!

[@GorgoReptilicus]

This is why I fell in love with the concept of non broadcast videos back in the day when the internet first became public. Thank you for your work and thoughtful analysis.

[@amyolive3771]

I want to thank you for this video! I could not put into words how ghibli films makes me feel but also why I continue to watch them and how content they make us feel!

[@nikodelpapa]

I loved the explanation of MA and how it relates to these films. One of my most profound experiences was exactly on “MA” and I never understood it had a meaning in Japanese culture and the profound meaning it has on our lives til just now. Thank You.

[@kasiahebda]

I love it, thank you for this amazing video essay. Miyazaki’s words hit hard, he is truly a real observer of the world.