Why System Latency Matters - ft n0thing

[@ChrisGeden]

Cinematographer to Director: “What kind of lighting do you want?” Director: “Make it look like we’re inside a ninja turtle”

[@Coldfire3737]

ya, that was pretty close to how the conversation went actually.

[@oroszkristof8213]

Do you realized that green is the color of Nvidia?

[@Bry.89]

@@oroszkristof8213 Do you 'realized' that he was joking?

[@AmViR1]

Why does this remind me of Linus Video with shroud, This however has more information so thanks Nvidia ^^

[@scottjones6255]

Much better than the Shroud video

[@ThunderBlastvideo]

Its the same guy...

[@AshSenpai512]

i guess its the same guy from nvidia that was in that video :P

[@enoraso]

this was actually interesting.

[@MatthewBrisset]

@deren Stree shut up

[@TheRealBleach]

@deren Stree stfu

[@justjake9047]

@deren Stree Did anyone ask? No. Does anyone agree? No.

[@SubZeroYT]

yeah for real. I just hate that no one ever says that it takes 200ms for the average or above average humans reaction time which would make everything here almost irrelevant.

[@TheRealBleach]

@@SubZeroYT Yea. About 250ms for over 20s usually

[@AbhishekSaral]

That's why competitive games on console felt more fair. Everyone is running basically the same hardware. But as we move to 120hz and high refresh TVs that might change

[@Wirzxcve]

Right. I owned a basic HD TV back in 2012 and I felt I was able to keep up with other players who owned better TVs or Headsets in BO2 Holding up a 4 KD with no Headset and reaching Kills up to 100 and never felt people had anything else, except better wifi (host connection.) but using basic wifi was more than enough and a regular TV. Now since cross-platform exists. It's not the settings they use or the Input controls. It's the system and the rates they receive data that make “Pros” have that Perception we see as skill. Until those same people compete against Those with the same latency and connection. We see that they're not as skilled as they made themselves to be in common game matchups.

[@CloutFPS]

Agree! I think the experience of gaming is infinitely better on PC. But in terms of competitive integrity, consoles giving everyone an equal shot in terms of hardware. And that’s a good foundation for any competitive sport/game

[@cooltech7711]

As someone who plays at higher latencies, I always try to compensate it with strats. But yes, there's always a limit to what you can do when the latency is just not low enough. You miss 100% of the shots, even if you take them, if the latency is too high for the system and then the server to register it.

[@kyleacosta7021]

there goes my jobless butt getting wrecked by people with this advantage

[@Dragon1010200]

Also, not a lot of people will be able to contain consistent 360fps on valorant.

[@johnblack5616]

Wait wasn’t this already posted? Oh well, more latency knowledge the better I guess.

[@agothelion]

@John Black You high?

[@axiomer47]

Same doubt

[@Enderplays12]

@@agothelion It was already posted. Saw it a handful of hours ago.

[@nicolajslvsten4978]

NOW with JORDAN GILBERT

[@Coldfire3737]

Yes, we had to re-post it. There was an error in one of the edits and wanted to make sure it was correct!

[@aadesh_kale]

I have tested this thing recently with my 60hz and my 240hz monitor and it actually very noticeable and awesome to see how latency just impacts multiple hardware and ultimately influence precision.

[@Jahus]

And when you've got 120 ms ping…

[@scottjones6255]

Same here, shits bound to help though.

[@jakeman025]

Then you just wide swing everything

[@ThunderBlastvideo]

Two words: wired internet

[@mohitrahaman]

Meanwhile: Trying to fly with Raze with 200ms ping ; - ;

[@dorkthvader2634]

@@ThunderBlastvideo 7 words: Not lucky enough to have local servers

[@vendettathekid6598]

Glad I watched this , it makes so much sense for call of duty mobile

[@andrewtate4635]

yes sirrrrrr

[@enviimii4450]

Go n0thing!! My boy doing nvidia!! Love it, keep it up brother

[@Grimmjeaux]

Everyone who's still on a 60-75hz monitor, upgrade soon, it very much worth it.

[@hem9483]

Yeah i need an entirely new system

[@globetracker917]

I agree 100%. Go atleast 144hz. When I upgraded a year or two ago, I wish 100% I upgraded earlier.

[@happy-gq2kw]

@Badr Ahmed 90 hz ok.But 75... pain in eyes in solo games too if you sit with 144

[@davideko3423]

​@Badr Ahmed Its not even just something for competitive games anymore, stuff like 144hz reeeaaaallyy help with the immersion in lots of single player games Ive played, and the general quality of the game youre playing will just feel a lot better (it did for me atleast). Also, if your system is already capable of pulling 144hz or more, buy a new 144hz monitor as your main one and use your 60-75hz older monitor as a second/third monitor. Switching to 144hz has forever changed my gaming experience and Im sure it will change yours, too

[@grantebert5516]

Your suggestions on your preferred IPS/VA monitor with decent HDR rating and a $500-600 budget?

[@6Twisted]

6:49 That graph implies that the 60hz system also has a slower CPU and GPU. It's possible to get low system latency on a 60hz system (down to 17ms) with fast hardware.

[@rado4506]

They are testing 144hz + 144fps which gives you 7,16ms + 7,16ms + 1ms (1000hz mouse) = 15,3ms (dunno how they got them 33ms system latency?) If you were playing 144hz + 360fps it would be 7,16ms + 2,77ms + 1ms = ~11ms 360hz + 360fps = 2,77ms + 2,77ms + 1ms = 6,5ms So if your system is able to maintain stable 360fps the difference between 144hz and 360hz would be around 4,5ms not 18ms like they had shown in vid. I might be wrong because i dont know how they got 33ms sys latency from 144hz and 144fps ?? i think it should be 15,3ms not 33ms.

[@jessexd9674]

This was the best confirmation video of high refresh rate advantage by nvidia!

[@Kpaxlol]

This was more of like FPS advantage.

[@Eragon185]

This is awesome to see, I love having data to quantify and explain what I am feeling but haven't been able to articulate before. #UltimatePlay

[@predyaxc]

MAN I LITERALLY SEARCH AND REZOLVED SOME SYSTEM LATENCY ISSUES BEFORE THE VIDEO WAS MADE.

[@MrZeuz666]

Oh, how I hope this tech turns out great! Really looking forward to not having as many "latencies" to blame. Truely! My old rig + wi-fi most likely gives me more headaches than I'd care to admit. Let's go Nvidia! #UltimatePlay

[@kensofuego5928]

I diagree system latency isnt as important as your ping to a server.You can have the best gpu ,cpu,or monitor ,keyboard,etc in the market and still not hit your shots. What matters the most is your internet speed and the server u play on.good ping offers better hit detection.we need better tick rate servers like 120hz

[@Raglarak]

I really hope after this gets released nvidia actually make a full guide of the best competitive settings with the less input lag, because I only see quality tutorials on your videos, and a lot of randoms youtubers always contradict each other so we need the best settings from the Nvidia Experts.

[@drazzer2021]

Damn, I am happy to see that 360Hz came out. Thats really exciting and a step forward.

[@murrayKorir]

Holy Molly I never looked at it that way, that's y why I miss all my shots in Apex when the cross-hair was actually on the body. I think I have the shot but then Latency. This is great work from Nvidia.

[@Metalhead-4life]

Reflex is gonna be awesome, now we just gotta wait till 27" and above 360hz monitors come down below $1000 at least for my broke wallet anyway #UltimatePlay

[@JWR03KF9]

Came back to this again, there is so much to watch I’m ready to take a nap, maybe dream about these games

[@wajinshu]

Thanks for this test Nvidia 👍👍

[@MDASAD97196]

@@user-su6ts9wm1h hes a loser and has over 200k subs lmao

[@alsoeris]

Peek advantage isn’t only a latency thing, you can stand still and the advantage will still be there

[@scigg]

I play Valorant at 144Hz laptop. I mainly use hotspot since my home wifi sucks, so there is an inconsistency in ping. 70ms and all of a sudden it goes 96 and 84 and 120ms. When I peek against enemy, I usually strafe back when I miss my shot but the enemy somehow killed me when I already strafed and the enemy supposed to not see me at that time because my body shouldn't be visible from the enemy's POV. This is one of the reasons why I always lost in a gunplay. I'm Gold 2 btw

[@TheGreesmunke]

Thanks for the info. Keep up the great work NVIDIA!

[@bovie5760]

Incredible! can't even imagine the future nvidia🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@tkx86]

At this stage Big navi going to have to pull a rabbit out its hat and ass to stop me thinking about dem spatulas.

[@EricVS010]

They didnt even test against 240hz or test peekers advantage 360hz vs 360hz. Wonder why...

[@joshVcastro]

It's decided, I'm going to save up for a 340Hz Monitor.

[@mr.meeseeks3238]

joshVcastro Why

[@joshVcastro]

@@mr.meeseeks3238 Basically the whole premise of this video. To improve system Latency. But a deeper reason would most likely be that I've come to accept that all things in life I deserve. Think of Law of abundance. Even though right now I'm not able to afford a 3090 or a 340Hz monitor, I know that with the right mindset, someday I will. A more simple reason, if I gonna invest in something, might as well make it the best.

[@Marc_Peters_qs]

@@joshVcastro as Jensen would say ... the more you buy the more you save.

[@jeffjeffrey2409]

This was a great video. Now I can blame my poor performance on my hardware!

[@MrDinodane]

We are they not showing a 3090 demo on this channel. Supposed to be the best of the best. Seems like you would want to show that off

[@loadedsandwich5812]

Is this a reupload????

[@nutE7]

n0thing is the goat

[@akajohnyblaze]

! soo this whole time I've been shooting the wall when I think I've been shooting people in the head 😭

[@BMPK]

depends if you on 60hz or peek advantage

[@somebrains5431]

It's be nice if Nvidia includes the software in Gsync update so more gpu and monitor owners can use the feature. Wanna out AMD on its heels for the gamer that likes to get under the hood, that's a great way to hammer them.

[@newguy69]

if you fixed audio latency on the Shield instead. Here you boast about 15 ms yet my Shield lags +/- 100 ms with audio passthrough enabled. Especially Dolby content.

[@SerasYT]

Low latency and high refresh rates is the way to go!

[@ggr7296]

Nvidia : We Want Performance ! AMD: We Want Low Prices! *People On A Budget But Want High Performance* : 👁️👄👁️

[@YangyChaddyDad]

Intel graphics are the real low prices

[@kiba208]

3060 is coming!

[@ggr7296]

@@kiba208 really? How did you know

[@playhand1]

@0lR8 this is my new Spider Man gameplay

[@JWR03KF9]

Yeassss flicking on sudden quick shots are so important the latency just extends the window of opportunity, scale, and more time

[@ZarocGuitar]

Enjoyed the more practical showcase of features

[@mrvk699]

This was Actually Really Cool. I mean Forget Brand and everything. In only Technology Terms this is a Major Break Through in the Slowed Down Barrier in e-sports.

[@b12virus63]

3:07 competitive gamer😄

[@jethererive7715]

September 17 my birthday and the release of rtx 3000 series cool

[@e7lggames99]

The Worst part is trying to explain this to your console friends

[@Lidoe]

Sadly they won’t see a difference because they’re too used to much lower frame rates and higher latency

[@xyzhero8480]

"Its simple to use Nvidia Reflex all you need is a 360hz monitor." as he says...

[@gustavogaleano5937]

Awesome work Guys!!! I need one of those monitors to see the difference but I love this job!!! Thanks for the sharing!!!

[@Wirzxcve]

It's not really the monitor. U have a 120hz vs a 144hz, but if the system can't produce i. The 120hz will still outplay you. Because their system can hold the consistent 120hz while yours is struggling to get near it, because it focuses on reaching 144hz even though the system is only outputting 80fps.

[@averyporter6745]

This was really well made

[@JarvisDavisVol2]

Hell yeah awesome 900K subscribers

[@stefantheconqueror8710]

V sync and multicore rendering in some cases, make CSGO unplayable. A 10 ms difference is huge.

[@dramel12]

try cap framerate with fps_max command below monitor refresh rate and puff magic.., try this with 60hz and multicore on and vsync on

[@stefantheconqueror8710]

@@dramel12 Less fps makes it worse man, also 60 fps would be shit for cs

[@dramel12]

@@stefantheconqueror8710 i know is only for your test, at 60hz the difference is most notable

[@Chemy.]

So, i can't download ram and the rgb won't give me more fps?

[@tss5548]

Low latency systems: My laptop: i3 4GB ram Also my laptop: who dares challenge my high latency?

[@rylansir6774]

Would a ryzen 7 2700 (not X) bottleneck a 3080?

[@Solo_plays]

very interesting and informative, said it before but i really appreciate this types of videos.

[@gryppy]

I am confused, is this a reupload?

[@Nisezzy]

Jordan n0thing Gilbert!!

[@StevenCasteelYT]

I love bleeding edge tech. This was a really well done educational/marketing video.

[@jamesgavriel]

Thanks for the information it really helped me understand more

[@TheUltrasromano94]

Double door is the new dust 2 gate?

[@thegreatwhite7475]

If I recorded my gameplay with nvidia gforce expirence.when I play it its jumping the seconds and buzzing the video not playing normally can any fix

[@JWR03KF9]

Just imagine there new few years, we may see something so fast that real-time performance headway will be invested in harder game generation based on resources you screen can’t even use as a bonus performance that would be so cool

[@m00gleboi]

Is it just me or is anyone else eagerly watching Nvidia's channel for the RTX giveaways? @Nvidia, please bestow us peasants with your sacred RTX.

[@KaizenMethod]

Really looking forward to this new tech

[@mrcookie97]

750 gpu, around 800 in the rest of the pc components to follow up with the gpu, 1000 new 320 hz monitor...

[@cevxj]

Interesting, now when will you move to Linux?

[@eugineasuncion7787]

I'm playing at 60hz in my whole life! Never tried higher than that.

[@FR33S1]

once you see more than that u cant go back

[@jakeman025]

I was playing on 120hz in 2002

[@bhopforfunheryc8104]

@@jakeman025 ????? Wtf

[@SoreTv]

Overclock it to 75hz, it’s not game changing but it’s a nice boost in smoothness

[@bhopforfunheryc8104]

@@SoreTv actualy If you haver a very sharp eye you can get a lit bit of advantage from that, but nothing that is going to make you a pro

[@joeroganpodfantasy42]

5:30 That is true in oll fields of study its part of human nature. In medicine things that we dont understand we say genetics, environmental , idiopathic

[@AngkorianKai]

List of things I never knew before. Informative.

[@kapora1234]

The only thing left for me is to have one of these so i can test it!

[@chrisjames7489]

Same issue as Linus’ video. A 144-360hz monitor w/ 300fps game render is going to make no difference. Especially off LAN. They keep changing display refresh with FPS in these to Exaggerate the difference greatly

[@bobsag1164]

Yes it will, because before 240hz monitors can’t pick up extra 60 FPS if it’s running at 300fps. Now they can

[@chrisjames7489]

Bob Sag Incorrect. You’ve already exceeded the tick rate of any server. So the rendered frames will help the input latency issue but the display is not being held back

[@blackmanx5845]

Things that we have known for a while but yet are pretty much helpless to change... AARRGGHH!!! Cool video, thanks NVIDIA, my wallet is sweating profusely.

[@Mantulisme]

*LITERALLY PAY-2-WIN*

[@sapster1337]

A comparison to the actual competitor to a 360 monitor would be nice, anyone considering a 360hz monitor is likely not considering a 144hz and most certainly not a 60hz they would want to know the difference between 360hz and 240hz which might not be that much considering you didn't include it.

[@TheSquidThatCould]

I’m confused so basically all they showed here is that frame rate is something that affects responsiveness in games even though we already knew that for years?

[@apocalypseap]

I think they don't include Reflex in those other systems. So this is a bit exaggerated.

[@randb4643]

Latency definitely matters. #UltimatePlay

[@VirtualTech]

just bought a gaming laptop laptop with 120hz screen, it gives me 200 fps.... after coming from a laptop with gave 30-40fps on 60hz.... the difference is huge..... it helped me reach 4 ranks higher

[@badinztinct8677]

ok, so i have a gtx 1080.. is there even a noticable difference with reflex on? or is there even an upgrade having it on?

[@quietkid7688]

Ok got it. That system latency matters.

[@nightcrawler7573]

I fucking want one of these bad boys

[@deathvraider6475]

Bringing the best always. Thanks Nvidia!!

[@stingyryy]

Fuck it, imma just pull out the green light and 1000fps camera next time I miss a shot

[@PazuzuHanbi]

So when can I get my 360 Hz monitor? 😁💚 Thx for the great video.

[@kevinvanneste2500]

Very good information, like high speed cameras to show the differences! #UltimatePlay #RTXOn

[@brunoyuji9203]

I have no idea if I would notice a difference, but it sure would be cool to try... #UltimatePlay

[@RMB4]

So this reflex will be available only on 30 series ?

[@rtx5319]

Will Nvidia Reflex work with Gsync compatible displays, like the Lg C9?

[@softwaregiant9908]

System Latency: if gaming objects are initializing or spawning on their position may differ if game is design for windows but hardware is changed. I just observed when i play some games on bottleneck PC'S.

[@Stoat_Lord]

Why is this system latency test being done in an environment that's not locally hosted? Valorants' matches and training grounds alike cannot be run locally since they are hosted exclusively on riot servers and because of this are subject to network latency which would add dynamic variables. You'd want to do this in a locally hosted environment to get truly accurate results.

[@korayyildiz6939]

If ping is stable it doesnt really make a differnce

[@hem9483]

Because the inaccuracy that hosting a LAN connection gives isn’t very significsnt

[@BruceWayne-fu6ip]

I'm proud of having the ultra high latency system.

[@dramel12]

cap 3 fps ingame below hz of monitor is better than NULL of NVIDIA with vsync on / with vsync off dont works

[@aMnezia]

btw, peekers advantage doesn't work at all with high ping in valorant... the game has character movement predictor which is bs

[@JWR03KF9]

Will the game overlay ever get an expansion to work with all games or atleast all from steam? Skyrim vr would benefit by reducing the used limit for Enb if you can use this feature

[@InvictusCore]

Have you guys seen RTX? Not? I keep looking for it and can't find it, I've already spent 1200 dollars, but I can't find RTX.

[@kozuta8858]

Damn no wonder I always lose when I'm hiding and win when I'm the one peeking. I didn't know peekers advantage is a thing lol

[@jakeman025]

That’s cuz you a noob homie

[@kozuta8858]

@@jakeman025 no :>

[@kadenshehan4689]

They made 1 milliseconds look so long

[@xyzhero8480]

Going to need the 3090 and new 360hz monitor..... This is too expensive.

[@Alex-bm9nb]

very interesting video. now just need to sell both my kidneys to afford a 360hz monitor and a 3090

[@Nirin1984]

Was kinda dubious about the whole raytracing thing but this is looking and sounding very promising. Can't wait to try it out myself #ultimateplay

[@yesnt7820]

I feel bad for RTX 2080 Ti user