Why Tamil Cinema is unable to go PAN India?

[@vigneshwarankannan4999]

I am really happy that Pan India is not working in Tamil. So more content oriented movies would come out in Tamil. I am tired of this loud, noisey, slow motion pan india masala movies. Pan India movies may benefit only the producers but not the audience. The problem is that the actor or director try to make every movie a pan indian if one movie worked as pan indian.

[@rajeshantony74]

True

[@Gunvoak]

We have to have a mixture of everything

[@AdiBushan-z9b]

Well there are good mass masala movies and bad mass masala movies. You might not like it but if majority cater to it then it must be respected. There are mass masala movies with good content with mixture of entertainment, songs and other genre. This is just an elitist mindset influenced by Western movies and imposing standards on Indian industries that follows different standards. I hope Atlee Kumar, SS Rajamouli, Lokesh Kanagaraj, Prasanth Neel, Prasanth Varma preserve mass masala culture that is rooted in cultures around India.

[@exp-rg3lg]

But that's just the start eventually we'll see all kinds of pan India films. We that there won't be multiple industries anymore just one industry

[@dopamine_mein_doobaa]

Kantara was pan India and it was not a typical masala.

[@iamnotfinished]

Tbh Tamil cinema should stop trying to compete with Telugu and Hindi films. They've got their own unique vibe, just like Malayalam movies. Malayalam is crushing it because they stay true to themselves and don't compromise on originality. Tamil can do the same...

[@theauthor3259]

Whats that got to do with not even having Trailer english sub titles, 90% kollywood big heroes not going for the promotions

[@sainayani4042]

Don't compare with tfi😊

[@Govvkopookkcxxc]

​@@theauthor3259 Okay go and cry in DMK office 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@ATAURRAHMAN-dk8jx]

There is rarely a single quality movie in Telugu industry. All of them are masala movies. Malayalam and Tamil film industries are the 2 best film industries of India. If you will chase or try to copy Telugu movies your movies will be done and dusted. So, make your own cinema.

[@sainayani4042]

@@ATAURRAHMAN-dk8jx yes that rarely yearly a one is croosing 1000cr from tfi♥️

[@GomathOffice]

Tamil is undergoing best phase ever... As a tamilian we are very much happy about it.. small budget and new face technician movies are doing great... Once festival movies are now getting very good reception among mainstream audience... This is the time where Tamil cinema is completly out of stardom... Like Vijay is resining, rajini is retiring , Ajith retired , and all other leading actors need content & story for their sucess.....

[@jayarajcg2053]

If one star goes another star will rise. You cannot stop the stardom

[@shivakumarvanugu3860]

​@@jayarajcg2053yes even if vijay rajni ajith retire there are stars like suriya,dhanush, sk, vjs, karthi, str etc

[@whatpoppin4441]

Small budget?? Lol vijay maximum movie budget wrer 300-400 cr

[@GomathOffice]

@@shivakumarvanugu3860 every one you mentioned, should need good content, technical aspects to get success... Can't get success only through their stardom....

[@ajithr13]

tamil cinema has a lot of talent. ..It may not be pan india now..but we will come big

[@danevij]

TAMIL Cinema has Lot of Actors, in which the Top 10 are called as Stars and the rest have the potential break into the Top 10 anytime soon : 1) Rajinikanth, 2) Kamalhassan, 3) Vijay, 4) Ajith, 5)Vikram, 6) Suriya, 7) Dhanush, 8) Silambarasan, 9) Vijay Sethupathy, 10) Sivakarthikeyan, 11) Karthi, 12) Jayam Ravi, 13) Vishal, 14) Arya, 15) Madhavan, 16) Arun Vijay, 17) Jeeva, 18) Vishnu Vishal, 19) Atharva, 20) Ashok Selvan, 21) Harish Kalyan, 22) Pradeep Ranganathan, 23) Kavin, 24) Manikandan, 25) Dhruv Vikram, etc... The Biggest problem with TAMIL Cinema is nothing but, the Fans. Inorder to protect one, they keep on degrading the other with negativity. Only the Unity among Fans can bring back the lost glory of TAMIL Cinema ❤❤❤

[@theauthor3259]

Kollywood: 1. Actors focused on salary vs creating successful projects 2. Political arrogance leading to lack of efforts on even basic things like English Subtitles

[@Harsh_Reddy]

Kannada film better.. Tamol waste

[@danevij]

@@Harsh_Reddy You are a Telugandu, trying to create a fight between Tamil and Kannada

[@idkhowdumblingare]

​@@danevijyeah😂

[@sivasailamark]

Huge Star salary is eating in to budget of the Tamil movies, hence producers are forced go on a limited budget compromises on quality of the movie. So big budget movies are not good but small budget are superb...

[@cinemacraze5000]

Lol without north multiplex release & without promotions even rrr bahubali 2 can't crossed 1000 crores mark😅

[@3008venky]

@@cinemacraze5000that’s the point.. tfi has markets across nation.. Telugu states are market for other industries.. like Tamil and Kerala if they have good movies… but tamils have a larger problem for growing beyond their shoe.. due to silly egos of stars..

[@BEAST-rt1qc]

Without promotion, audio launch and North India support, Tamil films are still collecting 600 cr or more than that.

[@dinesh8575]

Because when they make Pan Indian movies they miss their own strength so even their own audience not liking it

[@sachinthomas7042]

Pan india movies and bollywood high budget a have diluted true cinema. This movies have created a general sense that movies should be high budget action pack films for audience to watch in theatres. This is why true craft like meiyazhagan and vaazhai didn’t do well in theatres. There should be a place for all kinds of movies for cinema to grow.

[@ramdev9548]

Amaran ❤

[@3008venky]

It’s not pan India movies.. it’s the Covid changed the market dynamics.. everyone got to know there is a lot of content on other industries on ott.. theatre exp reserved for cinematic exp movies.. not star actors.. quality over stardom..

[@maxl2062]

I’m happy the direction the Tamil cinema is going. Not really bothered by Pan-Indian craze.

[@Sweetxy-wc4ei]

So why are you releasing ur films simultaneously in other languages & promoting them? u even released "Puli," & other movie I can't remember name a period film, to follow up Baahubalis success & Tamil fans claims before every Tamil film's release that it will cross bahubali collection blah blah hahaha. By the way, no film labeled as pan-India was originally created with that intention. Films like Baahubali 1, KGF 1, Kantara, Pushpa, & Karthikeya 2 were not made with the goal of being pan-India.

[@febinvarughese6368]

⁠​⁠​⁠@@Sweetxy-wc4ei Baahubali was created as a Pan Indian movie. Rajamouli himself said it and karan johar himself backed it. It was Dharma productions first foray into promoting a mass south movie in the Hindi belt. It was heavily promoted by Karan Johar in the Hindi states. The industry was going through a lull till BB 1 hit cinemas and made huge profits. Inspired by this excel entertainment run by Farhan Akhtar distributed KGF 1 and that movie was released in 5 languages. So the second one was bigger and tweaked to be pan Indian as much as possible. RRR was a pure pan Indian labelled film created with exact goal and it was pushed by North and South producers and distributors especially since it had a pan Indian subject. Kantara and Pushpa were probably the only films, like you said, that were not made as pan Indian films and got success on a pan Indian level, especially post Covid.

[@anjaannenjans8531]

Maharaja become a pan ott success in netflix

[@UnkownCat-r6b]

Stop this maharaja shit bro there are lots of same story based movies released before maharaja eg : old boy. Incendies.Iratta etc

[@kavinanil7406]

Cinema as an art, cinema as a commercial milieu....!! Thiz conflict between art and commerce will always be unsolvable. Art can be consumed forever, but commerce is just short lived based on contemporary resources.

[@Navin4061]

Because they don't care about 'Pan India'. Tamil and Malayalam industries are similar in that regard and always has been. They only care about telling their stories and if it goes Pan India fine, but they don't go out of their way to make films for a Pan-Indian audience. It's simple as that.

[@rakeshdasarla8151]

But u have to focus on North because we have to show them our culture and accept there culture that is what a film means u have to give a good movie and take a good movie that's what is mean by pan Indian film's 😊😊😊😊

[@rakeshdasarla8151]

@@Navin4061 but how many days they will make only reginal films we have to push our boundaries and show the north people that we can make more better and good movies 😑😑😑😑

[@KeyboardAbhishek]

It’s interesting to me that this obsession with Pan-Indianess has also coincided with the wave of hypernationalism we’ve seen over the past decade. At the end of the day, Tamil cinema does not need the validation of North Indian audiences to succeed and grow - movies this year like Lover, Vaazhai, Lubber Pandhu and Meiyazhagan are all evidence enough.

[@theauthor3259]

Kollywood: 1. Actors focused on salary vs creating successful projects 2. Political arrogance leading to lack of efforts on even basic things like English Subtitles

[@sudheerk67]

However it is not interesting to me that Tamil movies' hyper Dravidianism for the last 5-6 decades. That settles it.

[@Kingcenasachin007]

​@@sudheerk67 okay cry in the corner

[@seethasravani8263]

Not single Tamil movie hit in north belt..they r not caring

[@ahmedzeeshan3727]

Except for KGF and Kanatara, Kannada films doesn't have any identity

[@YpYp-zh5pg]

Charlie 777 Ggvv Asn Saptha saagadaaacheyello A Saptha saagadaaache yello B Mufti Kirik party Ghost Lucia Many more but These are some movies recognised and appreciated in national level, if you don't know that doesn't mean it does not exist.

[@Stranger-lb1uz]

​@@YpYp-zh5pgthese films are not even promoted in other states especially in Tamil Nadu. We know only kgf kantara and charlie

[@Sweetxy-wc4ei]

​​@@Stranger-lb1uzSo what?? World doesn't revolve around TN just bcos u don't know doesn't mean nobody knows i guess this is common practice among tamiIs to say we don't know blah blah as if these f00Is r known across the world. Even after so many promotions ps1 many don't know when ps2 was released same goes for ur other film's.

[@ahmedzeeshan3727]

@@YpYp-zh5pg I heard about these movies from you😂😂

[@mekalapugazh6192]

Both are scrap material for me..sorry to say this..

[@shojinrc8]

They are not interested in pan indian movies. They prioritize their audience first even though they have all the resources to do huge films. For me, the Tamil film industry is the best film industry in our country.

[@prashch5223]

not interested really?? Haha then act like it. why do u dub your films in multiple lang? & Tamil fans claims before any big Tamil release that there films will surpass "Baahubali" blah blah N0N sense hahaha. If you don’t intend to make pan Indian films, then why r Tamil actors promoting them in the North?

[@raja-jl9os]

😂😂😂😂 garbage

[@charanks781]

Kanguva is coming man

[@shojinrc8]

@@prashch5223 dub doesn't mean the movie is pan india. I am from kerala and tamil films of stars like Vijay, Rajani, suriya have a lot of viewers here. Still they are not doing anything to promote the movies here or dub Malayalam. They release the movie here in tamil and that too mostly without subtitles.

[@prashch5223]

@@shojinrc8 Oh, if dubbing doesn't qualify as a pan-India film, then what exactly does? In our case if actors don’t attend events or speak in Telugu & Kannada during promotions, their films are likely to be boycotted regardless of their fan base it doesn't matter their films probably won't even cross 10 cr. Same goes for Hindi that the reason why vikaram, Surya r trying so hard to promote in Hindi.

[@rahulv19]

We don't need pan india. We make films in tamil only for tamil. We don't have to go everywhere and please everyone.

[@Stranger-lb1uz]

Tamilan here, I dont want/like Tamil movies to go pan India, films here are made only for Tamil people which are culturally and politically deep rooted. I am really happy that Tamil cinema keep moving towards hardcore content oriented movies. And same all Tamilans are looking for. We dont care about other industries what they are actually doing. ❤ Also you mentioned that Tamil industry has old known stars but lot of new faces has came up already with low budget good content movies.

[@whatpoppin4441]

😂that delusion is why your industry in behind 😂 🤣😂🤣😂 kannada Telugu Hindi industry are top right now

[@Stranger-lb1uz]

@whatpoppin4441 telungu movies are cringe, routine story with big budget and more promotions in north india. Bollywood is p0rñ industry lite. Why kannada industry came here ? It has only KGF and kantara

[@seethasravani8263]

Is Tamil culture is makes people depression and oppression..tell me which movies makes with Tamil culture recent 5 years..past years 7 out of 10 movies are made with DMK political formula only

[@Str712-ht]

The tamil industry say we don't want pan India. But they are making to beat bahubali. Ps1 and ps 2 and kanguva and Leo and goat and indian2

[@Stranger-lb1uz]

@@Str712-ht so directors mani ratnam, lokesh, shankar, venkat prabhu,.... were made their movies only to beat bahubali. I see... 🤔🤔🤔🤔

[@anand5762]

Kgf and Pushpa maybe a pan Indian film collected well but not good film... I don't understand why north people likes these kind of movies.

[@సామాన్యుడు-గ5ధ]

Cinema is an entertainment but not a school lecture. I don’t want to see lectures and lectures on oppressions on some people, revolutions etc on big screen. I just go for entertainment where gripping storyline, graphics, imagination etc. will be present.

[@mirugamx]

So glad you touched on this. 🙏🏾 And well said ❤️

[@CamachoCarojo]

There is another view, none of the bollywood crew (Distributors inclusive), wants the Tamil movie to be released directly, since the content dry Bollywood can remake the film. I have seen many tamil movies has been remade in Hindi than any other language films. Tamil stars are doing direct hindi movies (like Dhanush, VJS, apart from Rajini or Kamal) unlike other xxxxwood stars, shows their popularity. Tamils as usual shy in doing marketing will break this barrier at some point of time. They have the pride, that the content will speak, in reality, it will be appreciated without monetary benefits. If they wanted to harvest it, then they have to come out that shell.

[@sri-t3e]

In early 90s they were a fight between tamil and hindi regarding language speaking in tamilnadu so that made them not to care about hindi audience 😢

[@whatpoppin4441]

Mainly ego that y srk prabash Yash are global star not vijay aur any of them see how Telugu and Hindi industry grown specially Telugu industry they are top right now

[@somnathshaktikumar4363]

​@@whatpoppin4441Indian star ...not global lol.......and it's not ego .....it's just they don't want to try becoz it's too risky and they are already successful within TN but 1000c will never happen. If they want to go pan India film then they have to add more masala and one scene glorifying hindu culture.........then only 1000c will be a reality for Tamil cinema but Tamil audiences will not like it ...u see recently how kanguva did so poorly.

[@dinesh6489]

Actually the ideology of the Tamil cinema and history we showcase may be allien to others. Especially Social justice - which is neither communism nor capitalism. It had its own pros & cons.

[@theauthor3259]

Concerned that might just be insular arrogance, when other state film industries are racing ahead..

[@sureshraghul2715]

​@@theauthor3259racing ahead in regression, it's better lag behind and stay progressive than other states

[@tarunreddy2031]

​@@sureshraghul2715thats an opinion and not a fact lol. Chennai isnt more progressive or anymore multiculturally diverse than bangalore, Hyderabad or mumbai

[@sureshraghul2715]

@tarunreddy2031 lol the most hilarious statement coming from a guy who has a caste name 😂 talking about progression that too starting the most regressive boomer cities of the country bombay, bang and hyd rofl

[@sureshraghul2715]

@tarunreddy2031 first compete with gujjus lol then you can compare with the most progressive states of the country like TN and Kerala...

[@AgentN-s5u]

Im not a huge fan of tamil films but have to admit their films are very unique even a lot of the mass ones. I also love they are going in the direction of malayalam films with content oriented films starring big actors(like meiyazhagan) or made by big directors( like vaazhai). LJust like malayalam films its better if they arent pan indian. And hear me out Pan Indian has only truly benefitted 2 industries in India: Kannada and Telugu. So don’t take it as a success formula

[@zipzap1906]

But bro tamil cinema has been always like this. There is always a balance between mass and content oriented films. It's just that due to pan indian craze mass films have increased otherwise there will always be good content oriented film coming from tamil cinema.

[@Just_thoughts_and_mind]

Exactly Tamil cinema has always been so constant . They have a perfect balance . They have started making rooted movies way before malayalam cinema. I strongly believe it’s now that malayalam movies are gaining popularity . There has been a worst time for malayalam but Tamil cinema has been making great movies all along. You need a mass action there they are, if you need an emotional roller coaster there they are. But sometimes the emotions are too much sticked to their roots that it becomes difficult to relate to that. But give it a chance it will blow your mind. None of the other industries has got such a beautiful crazy balance as they do.

[@Kaladinstormblessedbridge49888]

Kya baat hai Nona bhai, that was actually very well thought out and honest. Even though you don't explain what the politics is, you at least mentioned it. Good for you 👏

[@AdiBushan-z9b]

PS 1 and PS 2 were disliked by many Tamil audience as well. I feel the screenplay and narration were slow. Also many Tamil audience although not all don't want to go pan india for some reason because they want movies based on their culture and roots which is understandable but should push pan-india as there are many fans in the north who will atleast watch the tamil movies.

[@ananddeena7642]

PS1 was liked by most of the audience and did well in Good in theatre. I was working as a JR in a hospital in Dindigul and saw PS1 more than twice within. The theatre was packed till the end of the month I saw few repeat audiences. But PS2 was a complete disappointment not true to the novel not history. Death of Adhitya Karikaalan was dramatic n good but that wasn't the one in the book. A lot of wasted characters.

[@cinemacraze5000]

Do you know how much impact PS1 did in tamil nadu?? even rajamouli said for bahubali first day reviews from Telugu called it's worst movie of Telugu industry 😅 what it means?? first comment with basic cinema knowledge without proper release proper promotions even rrr bahubali 2 not did well in theatres if they released in 4 weeks ott agreement here our tamil producers did that mistake

[@srinivasaraghavansadagopan2052]

ponniyin selvan book is known for quality writing and description of nature and temples. It is not an adventure story. Still MR has done his best without spoiling the core of the story. People still think that it is the original story of Chola king but it is not.

[@newgen1002]

The BO comeback of Suriya is crucial for tamil cinema...he was the biggest star next to Rajni in the late 2000s and early 2010s after which there was a slump....its time to time he succeeds becuz he is a differnet kind of "STAR"

[@sheffinspathan5592]

His Andhra market at that time was more than tamil 💁💁

[@jayarajcg2053]

Even Vijay Ajith doesn't have market in Telugu States but Surya has that heavily

[@arunvikrama]

Biggest star after rajni ya 😂😂... .he is always below the calibre of vijay , Ajith and even lower than vikram 😅😅.. He don't have single theatrical hit for a decade 😂😂

[@martinsam8787]

​@@arunvikramahaha hey fool when vijay Ajith was struggling in 2009 time surya was at peak you know 7am arivu theatre ical rights where more than velayudham and even manaktha

[@movieworld3342]

Exactly my thoughts.... Being a Tamilian i completely agree with ur views bro... though movies like Maharaja , Meyyazhagan were ott hits, movies like Kanguva , Aayirathil oruvan which shows Tamilians as barbaric doesn't work well even with Tamil audience though the story is good, what a spiritual land Tamilnadu was , so many magnificent temples built by Cholas, Pandiyas,Pallavas and Chera kings , so many saints revived hinduism through Bhakti movement... Ponniyin selvan almost potrays the culture of Tamils well and thats y it was an industrial hit..It would have collected even more if Maniratnam had shown more of Raja Raja chola's conquest of south east asia ,strong navy of cholas and building of temples instead of Vikram, Aishwarya Rai's love story...In 60s and 70s era Tamil cinema use to produce a lot of devotional films, , 80,90s more of social issue based , family dramas and rom coms ruled the industry... Many of these movies were remade into other languages and were blockbuster hits ..for the past 5 yrs hell lot of caste based movies made by some directors was pulling Tamil cinema down.......even Tamil audience were upset with it.... This is the time when Telugu cinema made into Pan India club.....Recent Success of Amaran proves Tamil audience always encourages Nationalist movies.... It was a pan indian movie... but hindi promotions was not done properly by team... also because of singham and bhool bhulaiya Amaran couldn't get theatres in North..In south Amaran still performing well nearing 300 crores , Movies which potrays our hindu culture like Ponniyin selvan, Bahubali was super hit in TN... Hope tamil directors make movies as per audience interests and enter pan india club soon..

[@eakalaivan839]

😂😂 dei sanghi punda, everybody likes that social related movies

[@cinemacraze5000]

comment section simply shows most of people very easily comment their opinion without basic cinema knowledge 😅 bcoz here only the problem is our tamil producers they not went to 8 weeks ott release so after 2.0 all other tamil movies not released in north multiplexs without that release there is no chance for 1000 crores otherwise there is no problem with quality filmmaking in Kollywood we are always a head conpare to other industries leo ps1 jailer vikram goat all movies deserves 1000 crores but lack of promotion & north release this movies not crossed even 700 crores but now kanguva planning really well with proper promotion & proper north release as a die hard thalapathy fan I'm happy for surya 😊

[@balajibala9836]

❤❤❤

[@idr811]

Sad Tamilian here. Thank you for this video, Nona. It is something I have tried to explain to friends and family over dinner countless times, only not as articulate as you did. Tamil actors and filmmakers have always put themselves first instead of good content, and instead of us, the audience. Politics, ego and all the unnecessary things you mentioned take centre stage (when they shouldn’t - there should be no place for them at all) and as a result, we get a very disappointing movie. It has been ages since there has been a good Tamil movie, let alone one that could compete on a Pan-Indian level. Tamil filmmakers still have a lot to learn. Oh well, until then, I will be eagerly waiting for Rajamouli garu’s next. Thanks again for this great video. Love from 🇲🇾

[@fredrickpremraj7404]

Guru Rajamouli is a expert in visual effects he makes FAST FOOD you can not compare with Maniratnam. Some film don’t carry any message it is only fantasy. Mani Rathanam makes home made mother food. Select which food (film) you want choice differs. 🙏

[@3008venky]

Finally some one speaking out side of Tamil pride .. rightly put what I understood.. politics over content is making them unappealing..

[@mahesh-ur3td]

Language barrier is another problem for them to go on promotion in other states . Other than Malayalam in Kerala and Tamil in TN they don’t encourage to learn any other language in their states . They find it hard to communicate in other states due to which they don’t attempt to reach out in north states , especially in talk shows like kapil’s … On the other hand Apart from the big hero movies in Telugu there were movies from lesser known heroes like HanuMan , Seetharamam , Karthikeya which did well in the north without promotion… Y didn’t movies like Vikram & Jailer didn’t do well in the north despite the presence of Kamal & Rajini who are quite popular and well known? That’s a mystery!!

[@sathishkumar-dq6fx]

This guy is half baked knowledge, where you went when leo and jailer crossed 650 cr, ps 500cr , vikram 435 cr, 2.o 850 cr. Kollywood dosent gave 1000 cr still because of 8 weeks deal now kanguva is going to achieve. Dont forget we were the one who introduced pan india and succeded, we were no. 1 industry in terms of box office from 2000

[@gun-jagan0016]

This over confidence going to tamil movie not cross 1000cr

[@whatpoppin4441]

That y u are behind 😂 Telugu and Hindi industry give 1000cr Movie

[@whatpoppin4441]

Even kannada industry is growing

[@thefacts2503]

Most of the actors are not interested in pan india movies . They want to release a film which is related to their people A pan india movie need proper promotion, which most movies doesn't do.

[@johnjohm2438]

Thanks No pan india We are always the best talent in india Biggest superstar ever rajnikanth Best actor ever Kamal Hasan Best choreographer dancer ever Prabhu Deva Best music director ever ar rehman Best dancer actor ever Vijay List goes on Pan india means Films fake propaganda in government and same mythology All other pan india films are mythological or coward industry They never have stories raising against government Godi cinemas are pan india cinemas Only Tamil industry in india boldest cinema We dont want pan india We always remind rooted We love our industry only boldest voice raising industry

[@sujettapraveen9223]

True

[@JithuChilukuri]

Keep living in your self made fantasy

[@rakeshmalefactor7553]

@@JithuChilukurisure, Tamil Cinema is always our self made fantasy.. carryon whatever u wanna cook for your audience…

[@whatpoppin4441]

That the difference between prabash srk and Tamil actors prabash srk are global star right now

[@whatpoppin4441]

😂that show how insured u industry is 😂

[@Arune90]

Honestly there are so many high standards content in Tamil cinema unfortunately it's not visible to north Indians hope they will know about it soon 😊

[@seethasravani8263]

What content,, depression and oppression?

[@stanislavplazilski]

I m not a tamilian.. bt whatever Tamil movies i saw. Hd good grounded stories. Simple authentic.. n few actors' acting especially is amazing.. so dont need the feel fr going PAN India. Bcoz by doing dt. Dey aint gonna give gud script. If story n script is gud. Film vl automatically be watched worldwide or nationwide. Wch has alrdy happnd thru OTTs..

[@sreeramg782]

PS1 and 2 are perfect fit for a web series and have the potential, but these movies are hard puzzles for non-tamil audience.

[@sreeramg782]

IT'S GIVING AND TAKING POLICY WHEN COMES TO PAN-INDIA MOVIES. ONE CANT EXPECT OTHER LANGUAGES RESPECT WITHOUT RESPECTING.

[@jayanthragav24]

1. Lack of good scripts (big budget) 2. Overpaid top stars 3. Shift in story telling which are very native that might lack the relatablilty and need not necessarily require a large scale. 4. Sensible but hypocritical audience 5. Producers influence on the script and demand for early release dates And so on

[@yaswanthr9047]

Surya is now promoting kanguva.... Let's hope for the best .... All the Best to Kanguva team, Surya Fans❤ from Andhrapradesh

[@srivathsaharishvenk]

Maybe marketing and releasing widely in India is necessary to make more money, but its just that, as long as the producers and directors are happy, it does not really matter that much, the biggest issue with trying to please everyone will be there will be so much convergence in the content, ideas and execution, if it works everyone when there is no real effort to make it appeal, then thats a great bonus, its not ego of directors, its just being true to content. Many film festivals celbrate the indian movies only because they are being told stories that are so rooted and fresh, we may loose that side of film making otherwise

[@3008venky]

Big Tamil movies have a bent of Tamil politics which don’t suit beyond the borders .. it’s the content that’s limiting ..

[@Hendricksnow]

Good insight!

[@ShihabBobby]

Tamil cinema is mostly based on Dravidian perspective.. And north Indian audience is kind of antagonistic to that perspective..

[@theauthor3259]

Too lazy to go promotions, put up good sub titles, focus on fat salaries...these mostly.

[@Sweetxy-wc4ei]

Even in South nobody gonna watch ur film's if they are not promoted in other languages.

[@VinaykumarSaidavaram]

Tamil cinema which has technically superior technicians and actors but due to consistent change in dynamics to please left leaning people with politically motivated agenda,…they slowly moved away from good commercial cinema and wholesome entertainments which they were famous for, It affected the box office numbers too. If they don’t realise this now they will only end up making left leaning dravidian films which may garner attention but box office wise it will only perform mediocre . This is the harsh truth, where as Malayalam cinema with a lot of variety by making beautiful movies but in Tamil cinema there has to be a agenda either in a preachy way or in a subtle way. And unfortunately art is being associated with it and it is getting Lauder by the day. Coming to Malayalam cinema you can see variety of subjects being made where audience have lot to consume. Coming to Telugu which is most successful of the lot because they still give importance to commercial cinema or popular cinema which other industries look down,…and they too are making variety of cinema in right mixture

[@unnipaul8944]

I have a different opinion. Many may disagree. Let's look all the Non bollywood Pan India hits. The directors are S S Rajamouli, Prasanth Neel, Nag ashwin. Look at all their initial works. They didn't go Pan India from the word go. These directors with their initial films with compartively smaller budgets did go Pan India at least through television and Internet. Say for eg: Eega, Magadeera, Ugram, KGF1, Mahanadi etc. All these films are not small budget films, but were not heavy budget films like Bahubali, KGF2 or Kalki. For me the key is the director or a real Super star. Not the budget. Let them prove their potential to go Pan India with smaller budgets. Lets come to Tamil films, with films like Bombay, Muthu with Rajini's international audiences, Muthalvan, Enthiran 2 etc Tamil films were the first from South India to go Pan India. (Malayalam did go Pan India with Chemmeen and My dear Kuttichathan. But other than these films I mentioned that was not a regular case.) But they had Directors like Maniratnam, Shankar at their peak, Superstar Rajinikanth. But when the new generation Pan India came those directors and Superstar have already passed their prime. With the younger directors and stars I see only a Vijay or a Lokesh Kanakaraj who have proven their potential to go Pan India with lower budgets. Stars like Ajith, Vikram etc have potential but they does only smaller number of films. There are many Tamil directors and stars who can go massive in South India. I am talking about the other areas. No point in commenting about bollywood Pan Indian films, because their market is much bigger.

[@72.ravikumarm52]

Tamil cinema is released in good amount of theatres with minimum promotion, and small amount of budgets unlike other pan indian movies, actually tamil cinema is happy with their amount collected n not aiming at 1000crs or something..

[@3008venky]

Then why do you come out with Kenguva and Leo in Hindi versions 😢 with patch job..

[@bkit5]

A Tamil movie producer explained it. It is because of Tamil producers unwilling to delay OTT release for 2 months, which is a standard practice for all Theater chains in North India. If the producers release in 1 month’s time, they get more money from OTT. That’s the problem, producers want to pull more money from OTT to offset potential losses.

[@mekalapugazh6192]

Thanks for your concern on tamil cinema and for the detailed views..forget abt masses..in TN there are people who likes Viduthalai and Vaazhai kind of films..we really dont care abt pan India films..we want these kind of films to be continued in Tamil industry..likewise we dont like Bahubali,Kalki kind of films..we are happy with lappatta ladies kind of Hindhi films..the more rooted is more pan..is unexpected statement..definiely there is a divide in culture of atleast north south..we are happy that the culture of the land to be retained..think abt Mani's Raavanan it is definitely neither for Hindhi audience nor for Tamil..the Pan term spoiled an excellent film as an ordinary one..let us wait and see how Kanguva works..for content oriented audience the term pan is obviosly an allergic one..

[@tarunreddy2031]

Who is we? Your highest grossers are movies like 2.0, varisu, jailer etc which are all over the top movies. Stop living in delusion and saying your preferences as universal facts when the box office numbers of tamil cinema points to something else😂

[@seemak784]

Tamil movies and culture should not compromise to please all especially the Hindi speaking people, and be happy with Tamil audience,

[@mennelly]

Brilliant analysis!👍

[@777sampath]

As long as there is Dravidian mindset in Tamil movies it will never work , stay rooted to our culture, never forget where u come from and ur roots are

[@sanjaysss2566]

There is love today, dada, vaazhai comes from kollywood

[@danevij]

TAMIL Cinema has Lot of Actors, in which the Top 10 are called as Stars and the rest have the potential break into the Top 10 anytime soon : 1) Rajinikanth, 2) Kamalhassan, 3) Vijay, 4) Ajith, 5)Vikram, 6) Suriya, 7) Dhanush, 8) Silambarasan, 9) Vijay Sethupathy, 10) Sivakarthikeyan, 11) Karthi, 12) Jayam Ravi, 13) Vishal, 14) Arya, 15) Madhavan, 16) Arun Vijay, 17) Jeeva, 18) Vishnu Vishal, 19) Atharva, 20) Ashok Selvan, 21) Harish Kalyan, 22) Pradeep Ranganathan, 23) Kavin, 24) Manikandan, 25) Dhruv Vikram, etc... The Biggest problem with TAMIL Cinema is nothing but, the Fans. Inorder to protect one, they keep on degrading the other with negativity. Only the Unity among Fans can bring back the lost glory of TAMIL Cinema ❤❤❤

[@தமிழ்-ல4ஞ]

It's never lost ❤. Tamil cinema is growing in the right direction😊.

[@tyagarajakinkara]

Yes the new generation stars of Telugu cinema are ready for big leap, kiran abbavaram, naveen polishetty, and others.

[@Daredevil009.1]

Kiran is star😂 kuch bhi

[@newgen1002]

Molugu uncle is the biggest star in Telugu cinema

[@Sweetxy-wc4ei]

@@Daredevil009.1 kyu problem kya hai? hr ek tamil actror ko troll kiya gaya tha for many yrs they eventually improve themselves it's not big deal.

[@ahmedzeeshan3727]

And Balayya 😂😂

[@prashch5223]

​@@ahmedzeeshan3727haha he's talking about new generation actor's.

[@EagleEighty9]

Keep up the great work

[@NonaPrince]

Thanks a lot 🙏

[@chennaipaiyan1644]

What about Vikram? Kamal went promotion for national wide and the movie was good but it’s not hit in north India. Content is not matter, ppl want heroine, item dance in the movie, So maker decide for 4week OTT. Tamil cinema did pan India from 80s , most of the kamal movies are done well in north India. Rajini and kamal movies are run successfully in Andhra

[@sajeevsarathie]

Tamil people for some reason not promote their film in hindi

[@rajumike1842]

Tamizh film industry is the pioneer in making pan India movies. Manirathnam, Shankar did that long ago. I prefer Tamil movies embedded with Tamil culture and values instead of pan India masala mixture.

[@wazirziad]

As a long time Nona Prince follower, this is one of the worst analyses yet. You don’t need Pan Indian Releases in Malayalam or Tamil cinema because of the good content coming out and it will eventually reach even if it isn’t promoted widely. They don’t depend need star value at all. Content is the king

[@vamshikciga4353]

Ya Tamil cinema produces good content like aramanai 4, goat .

[@EshwarmanojManickaraj]

@@vamshikciga4353 you didn't acknowledge good movies like Maharaja, Lubber Pandhu, Vaazhai, Vettaiyan, Meiyazhagan,Nandhan, but you chose to write only bad movies for a reason.

[@kaushikj6819]

I think, more than the main movie producing regions, tamil cinema makes very rooted films so its difficult for that to resonate elsewhere. But the quality and range of tamil cinema now is the best in the indian cinema i believe. From masala, to content. They have been pushing boundaries everywhere. Also, tamil cinema had the biggest range of directors now. I agree that the makers are not making it palatable to other audiences. This also means dumbing down certain things which the creators do not want to as they aspire to better things. So its a tug of war between those two concepts. Also, tamil cinema has a lot of references to itself since there is a vast and rich body of work, so that all gets missed. Finally, i trule believe the mass audience in the north are not ready to appreciate content yet, they are still looking for hero elevation and mass scenes. I think tamil cinema has moved away from it by a good degree. All the pan indian movies u mentioned, KGF, RRR and Pushpa etc., are all very commercial. Tamil cinema don make them anymore because the new age directors have moved on and they all make genre movies. Even Lokesh, is very genre specific and quite rooted to his story and doesnt give a bahubali or Salaar type of elevations. As a tamil fan, i am happy that we are moving towards more content. I have seen mass movies year after year and i don want them to go back to mass dialogues and physics-defying action. For me, Maveeran is a better made commercial movie than Salaar. If pan-india cannot appreciate that, then so be it. Lastly, Most directors in tamil cinema now are disciples of kamalhassan, and just like him, they are not going to make pure mass movies just for money. They are going to keep doing new things and pushing boundaries ❤❤❤

[@seethasravani8263]

Yes ,super content..caste,frustration..

[@BollywoodBagothalu]

Because politically motivated oppression, depression movies dont make so much money, Shankar is the only one who can do it but he lost his mojo.

[@adriansilva2516]

Another key reason is Tamil cinema talks a lot about caste and bramhin bashing, which allinates a decent majority. Now imagine if Muslims were continually bashed in Hindi cinema, the movie will be called communal, nothing is done to tackle it. Every movie will somehow bring politics and be about how Bramhins are the bad guys.

[@juliegoldman6778]

Luckily they don't get cancelled in the US if there are not enough sales. Maharaja and Meiyazhagan two of the best Indian films of the year !

[@krisam12345]

The Tamil and Malayalam industries have multi-talented actors, other than the four you mentioned: Vikram, Surya, Dhanush, Vijaysethupathi, Karthik, and the list goes on. They are versatile actors; they can play any role. It is all about time and luck. Most of the pan-Indian hit films are masala except Kanthata.

[@harikrishna5666]

Its not tamil industry ❌ Its routine movie industry ✅

[@nandhakumarnk8938]

Correct me If I am wrong. Kannada "Kantara" worked all over India same as Hebrew/Aramaic "passion of christ" worked in US right? Currently there is a wave among the population that their religion is attacked and they need to support movies that portray their religion in a good way.

[@raja-jl9os]

Matrix is also inspired by jesus😂

[@AgentN-s5u]

Yeah that’s true. I personally felt the slowness and not good acting in kantara made it pretty mediocre. The film also had too much of its runtime being about boring masala

[@dinesh6489]

Agred , these things happen after BJP gets into power who are saying themselves saviour of Hindus (myself being an Hindu) I don't feel any threat of saving me from someone who never existed 😂 and also it worked well in HINDI belt 🤦

[@cinephile5776]

PAN India movies are unnecessary pressure.. Unnecessary compromise.. When the movie is good, the reception will also be good(worldwide).. And Tamil cinema had been doing this stuff for decades. Nobody cares for PAN India as of now in TN.

[@Rajesh-so9kx]

there are multiple filim like Kaithi, Jai Bheem, Sutaria Potru, recently Maharaja and even Meiz azagan are loved by people across India . What is missing theatrical pan India rush for a Tamil movie. That too happens dubbing needs to accurate, and marketing and promotion as you said should be done right. For that they need the intent as you said

[@krishniarumugam]

Great topic. Agree on Tamil Cinema on lack of pan-India hit. Poor marketing, dubbing, subtitling etc are part of the issue. The annoyance for me is the budgets are actually quite high and could benefit from a wider release especially with actors like Vikram, and Vijay Thalapthy who have huge followings in the Hindi belt. This is a weird situation. Look at Hanuman as an average presentation they put alot of effort in dubbing and music. Tamil cinema its ok to keep it in our community....but at the risk of being left behind and made obsolete. There is no doubt interest....look at the interest in OTT release of Maharaja , Vikram, Master etc....all eyes on Kanguva But at the same time neither does Hindi Cinema have a pan-india hit. Stree 2, Gadar, Jawaan and Pathaan are not Pan-India Hits. The SRK ones are North Belt and Global hits. Stree 2/Gadar 2 are Hindi Cinema hits. I feel Telegu cinema has had that boldness - but at the same time from a State Cultural perspective...Telegu is in between cultures of Tamil and Hindi and ergo creates a perfect zone of interest. And they are making movies with that mindset.

[@srivishwas5378]

The trend of producing masala commercial films in the industry may not be beneficial for the future, but it remains popular right now. In contrast, Tamil cinema is increasingly embracing art form films, which is promising for the industry’s future. Many directors are coming forward with strong scripts that focus on artistic expression, contributing to a healthier environment for Tamil cinema.

[@AdiBushan-z9b]

I disagree. Jawan, RRR, KGF 1 and 2, Maaveeran, Hanu Man, Master are all commercial masala movies and also have artistic expression but do really well. I believe there are good masala movies and bad masala movies and you cannot stereotype them as all being bad. Elitism isn't the solution.

[@prashch5223]

Don't act like 100% film's made in industry r masala commercial film's it's just made in small amount with large production value. There are still numerous classic films created across every industry.

[@raja-jl9os]

​@@AdiBushan-z9b 😂 jawan is garbage

[@raja-jl9os]

​@@prashch5223 masala movies and entertaining movies both are different

[@jayarajcg2053]

​@@AdiBushan-z9brather than Jawan aur rrr I would say Kalki is a good concert based theatrical movie. It's really a good attempt in Indian cinema

[@kannagood9604]

Also more of local stories that connect only us is what Tamil audiences want today. Most of us r not interested in masala movies. Our movies concentrate more on social issues which few of them have the guts to even speak that is the specialty of Kollywood. If lot of money goes in new talent will not be encouraged so it is better we stay to only our people. Because cinema is the medium thru which we even come to know of so many social issues happening around us like Jai Bhim , Vazhai , Vidhuthalai to name a few. Though all these issues is happening everywhere but only some state audience can connect. So it is better our directors take movies which concentrate on our people instead of making masala movies. All Tamil hero’s are also not interested in making Pan India movies that is the reason they don’t release in multiplex in Hindi speaking states. As they stick to our roots we can see meaningful movies or else we will also have to see masala which only few Tamil audience prefer because we wanted movies with some storyline and proper screenful with well written dialogues. period

[@tarunreddy2031]

What a load of nonsense. A shit film like varisu made 350+ crores in tamil last year, it should have bombed as per your logic and hate for masala cinema. Baahubali 2, an over the top movie was your industry hit for 6-7 years till movies like vikram, leo broke it. None of them are high content films lol. so is jailer, so is 2.0. stop living in delusion when your own box office figures doesn't support your argument 😂😂. Which one of tamil top 15 box office grossers is a high content film like jai bhim or asuran? None of vetrimaran or pa ranjith movies make the list so with what proof are you chatting this nonsense. There is barely any. Its all dominated by vijay, rajini movies who are famous for mannerisms than acting in the last 20 years. Movie like maharaja did ok business, recent karthi movie was an average affair at box office. They both received way more love on ott than in theaters while movies like varisu and jailer made 1000cr combined. So much for supporting high content cinema😂😂

[@seethasravani8263]

Still Vijay varisu collect more money than jai bheem...that s the power of entertainment..Jai bheem is ott level movie..not theatrical level movie..

[@Purplepink345bgh]

I don’t understand the comments. Don’t be defensive. Making a good large scale film is one of Telugu cinemas strengths. It’s used to be one of Tamil cinemas strengths as well. It’s not good to lose that skill.

[@jagannathannarasimhan3964]

Tami cinema is a mixture where we have iconic films as base for every geners and every budget and taking succes

[@pachathavala]

So according to your statements it's better to not go pan India, then we have to figure down to masses

[@maxl2062]

How consistently are Telugu and Kannada making pan-Indian movies?

[@vamsiavi]

one reason is they want to spread their ideology ...which won't fit into cinema...and kills cinematic experience....

[@Daredevil009.1]

What ideology is present in lcu bro

[@Daredevil009.1]

And cinema is for entertainment political movies are present in every industry audience only go for entertainment not for ideology recent movies are examples

[@dinesh6489]

Only Kerala and Tamilnadu opposed the movie like "Animal". Other states are celebrating like anything, the reason is politics behind that movie and intention are not known to others.

[@blitzkrieg9925]

Ideology 😂. Softporn ideology like Golti cinema ?

[@theauthor3259]

Pa.Ranjith and co the ego group

[@jokerunbelievable6141]

But interms of quality Tamil and Malayalam Cinima leaps ahead of Telugu and Kannada cinima. Most of us know that majority of PAN India movies are mediocre at best

[@roamingsoul-w2r]

Tamil movies has different fan base as a mallu I have been a avid fan of Tamil movies and it's superstars, stars, actors, directors, music directors, singers

[@saravanansundaram4944]

The discussion was good, but there were number of films in tamil which doesn't touch the shore of Politics or deep tamil culture, but able to cater & satisfy huge native audience. Though the film was good, Bollywood is not ready to accept them, just because it is an South Indian film.

[@jarvis3630]

Remember... there was a time when enthiran was the most collected indian movie😅

[@Govvkopookkcxxc]

Also remember that , this record was broken by many movies 🤣🤣🤣🤣 Don't stay in ur own imagination, wake upto reality it's 2024 now, set your time in your keypad phone correctly 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@adhithansubramanyam7936]

I am happy the way tamil cinema is at the moment… the movies are more rooted to this region for reason… tamil nadu is undergoing an entire society transformation because of this films and i wouldn’t want masala stuffs so the every people can watch it… these movies talks a about the tyranny of caste system, importance of education, importance in womens education and mabny, tamil people are undergoing a great transformation in forward thinking… they are question superstitions now thinking more clearly than being influenced…. Great young directors are making it to biggest film festivals with just very small mobile phone camera movies…

[@mrparamasivanvellala1875]

Kamalhasan is the first pan India actor way back in 1980s itself with Ek duje keliye was Blockbuster and silent film Puspak was hit everywhere then❤

[@Namburi-n6y]

Their content is Mediocre for Pan India audience. They are trying but failing 😂😂😂. No excuses 😂 Their stars don't have Pan India Appeal😂

[@RandomRads]

We’ll have Pan India movies and local movies. That’s the beauty of India.

[@anuj_s_world]

They want guarantee money from OTT so they take more money from OTT in return release it in a month's time after theaters.

[@nagarajuchakravarthi]

80% of Tamil movies are either caste based issues or any Hindu and keep beating these stories and take pride under guise of culture and Tamil pride. Watch out movies of Pa Ranjit and Vetrimaran, who lead such concepts and lot others follow. A state with most number of temples and who has Gopuram as their state logo doesn’t text its heritage. They are hypocritic to accept reality. Sorry if my words hurts anyone.

[@సామాన్యుడు-గ5ధ]

100% true

[@3008venky]

Exactly… waste of talent and opportunity

[@RajKumar-tj3mw]

I think Amaran movie is the pan India movie you wanted. It didn't have any problem you explained and the movie team worked to prevent. With promotions,interviews,dubbing,stardom everything. By this it collected 330 + crores worldwide BO collection with good theatrical run. I know at the you posted this film didn't release. It's just a heads up.

[@enderman-w6o]

still it didnt work in north india. most collection are from tn ap ka and kl

[@sujettapraveen9223]

Its better to stay regional rather than going loud and noisy shit that way we can focus on better contents. Just to cater north audience religion based elements required to be added . Staying regional will atleast give us the freedom to focus on our own content rather than running over artificial shits

[@madanaselvam3583]

Tamil people likes sarpattai parambarai, madras,vada chennai, asuran, bombay, vikram, 96 than this 1000CR movies RRR, KGF, salaar. Content and screenplay are important than mass

[@sonicgamer5808]

This Pan India concept is actually destroying the Cinema. Regional language Cinema has to compromise on many of their core emotional and regional content for Pan India success.

[@jayarajcg2053]

Hope coolie will be an answer for all these if it comes out well. But they have to really push it unlike other Tamil producers do. They should come with a good strategy

[@johnjohm2438]

We are happy rooted and boldest contant in india If we are pan India Have to cast zero talented Telugu Bollywood heroes Can't say political reality Better not pan india

[@speakingtree2385]

We call it "Dengaleka Mangalavaram annadanta neelantodu"

[@shankmr5899]

Hero salary is more than technician. Technicians not happy due to their low & struggling salary. Free & peace of mind, will make positive thinking more.

[@Flash-editz-l1j]

Tamil movies are meant for Tamil audience ...we Really dont want Any pan india appeal for it ...

[@abhimanyusalil2993]

Well technically due to their not much good marketing strategy Same goes to Malayalam Cinema

[@iamnotfinished]

Dude, Malayalam films total budget is 30 times lower than a huge Tamil star's salary! Yet, Malayalam cinema still manages to get a decent Return on Investment (ROI) from their films, plus extra bucks from OTT, satellite, and music rights. Meanwhile, Tamil cinema is struggling to break even and boasting about the 'crore club is just laughable. Comparing Malayalam to Tamil is the real irony

[@abhimanyusalil2993]

@@iamnotfinished well I am just saying both industries can't reach pan Indian level that's it not comparing the collection , budget stuff of both industries

[@iamnotfinished]

@@abhimanyusalil2993 Malayalam films don't need a pan-Indian release; they're thriving in their own league. Despite not opting for wider releases, they'll continue to excel in their current space.

[@sharonsoans9743]

Could you please review Kamal Hasan Sir 's masterpieces like -Uttam Villain -Guna -Virumaandi -Anbe Sivam -Mahanadi - Hai Ram -Alavandan -Pinnagi mannan etc In this any one if you review...I'm on cloud nine. Thank you.

[@srinivasaraghavansadagopan2052]

Michael madana kamarajan!

[@rockingkvs]

Tamil Cinema started to whole Non Hindi Pan India thing. Hindi dubbed Tamil movies like Kamal's Appu Raja, Hindustani, Shankar's Hum se Hai Muqabula, Mani's Roja, Bombay, etc were super hit including their songs. Pan India movies are doing the same thing what Marvel movies did to Hollywood. Now Hollywood is suffering with lack of new stories and depending on more remakes or sequel than Original contents. So Pan India movies are only good for producers and actors.

[@Dev-c2y]

Before Bahubali, Robot part one from Tamil industry became successful pan India

[@praveen1620]

Boss you dont know anything about Tamil Cinema. Not all Pan India movies are good. Its just overhyped and over the board movies masala movies. Tamil cinema like Malayalam cinema is making great content movies that needs to be appreciated.

[@theauthor3259]

Kollywood has fallen behind so much...even english sub titles difficult. Pls wake up.

[@roshinvincent4223]

Unique new and different , engaging.. These are pan indian mix.... But it is very difficult to make

[@lj4daniel70]

Its very simple....be it malayalam ,tamil both are culturaly rooted film industries and apart from 1-2 actors most does realistic action movies or rooted stories... But in the case of telungu films ,all there heros are doing movies with mass masala in it and its pretty easy for them..they have been doing it feom last 70-80 years and its pretty much workinh with the hindi audience , especially Up, bihar kind of places and a telungu movie doesn't need other language speaking audience support as well as they can get 300+ crores from their own people...All their heros are mass masala lovers and they are hero worshippers as well...They treat film stars as gods which also helps heros to get a minimum collection even for a bad movie..In malayalam, even if its mohanlal's movie and if the movie is not good ,that movie will collect nothing out of box office and actors critics are very high in malayalam film industry..even mohanlal said in an interview about how telungu audience treat their actors like gods..