Why Tatsumaki vs Monster Garou IS Close

[@SatorisYT]

Alternate take on the topic: kzbin.info/www/bejne/pn20gHmkhL2Yma8

[@fitnessstuff915]

his is better because he mentioned that, in chapter 134, tatsumaki tanked a punch from god, but kept fighting. he caught that easter egg but you didn't.

[@kkisthebomb4205]

​@@fitnessstuff915oh...so god is not even that powerful, alright then

[@fitnessstuff915]

​@@kkisthebomb4205it's not that god is weak but perhaps tatsumaki is stronger than we think she is. after all, she already knew about blast and dimensions.🤯

[@kkisthebomb4205]

@@fitnessstuff915 bro no way is tatsumaki surviving a hit from god lol, so blast who is leagues above tatsumaki and saitama is above that while cosmic garou easily beats and copies blast's moves and then goes on to copy saitama and push him to max after he got a tiny little bit of power from god where cosmic could easily one shot tatsumaki is surviving a hit from god? who is leagues above everyone in the series? lol your on crack

[@fitnessstuff915]

@@kkisthebomb4205 you should reread chapter 139. this time, try not to stare at tatsumaki's legs so much. 😳🤯🤭😂😆😆😆😆

[@sawyerjohnston2544]

I think there’s one tatsumaki feat you forgot to add and that is she managed to lift saitama a few feet off the ground

[@coom6932]

and dragged him around the planet, flying from one city to another

[@sawyerjohnston2544]

@@coom6932 no that’s ridiculous that did not happen yes tatsumaki did drag saitama but she definitely didn’t drag him around the planet

[@coom6932]

@@sawyerjohnston2544 fucking read the manga. the distance between cities is COUNTRY SIZED. And she was LITERALLY flying with him across the cities.

[@syenous2454]

@@sawyerjohnston2544 maybe not the whole planet but still around the opm supercontinent cuz they went to multiple cities during the fight which are each country sized

[@DutchDread]

@@sawyerjohnston2544 ....yes she did

[@YacineScales]

0:09 that really caught me offguard lmao , Great Video Satori

[@SatorisYT]

XD Thanks

[@CosmicDominator]

Wow Tatsumaki is a complete monster

[@Arandomdude-i3c]

I had no idea she was this strong😭

[@Randomnoob451]

Great vid! Another piece of supporting evidence for Tats beating at least perfected first Garou is in chapter 132 Genos describes Psykos-Orochi’s power by saying “The energy scale… It can not be measured?!”, but in chapter 155 he states that he can actually feel and quantify the energy radiating from PF Garou (all though this could be taken with a grain of salt as Genos is a pretty terrible power scaler)

[@kristopherdorsey8561]

true considering he thought Saitama would lose to gokutsu but he saw saitama take out carnage kabuto.

[@Goku_crown]

​@@kristopherdorsey8561Goketsu was stronger than carnage lol

[@joaquincasascortes624]

​@@Goku_crownWe don't really know how much stronger. Both of them died to a regular punch from Saitama, so the difference probably wasn't that large (Carnage Kabuto, Carnage mode being mid-high dragon and Goketsu being high dragon since he still scales way below Orochi)

[@syenous2454]

@@joaquincasascortes624 not saying you're wrong but using the argument of a single normal punch taking them both out is pretty unquantifiable considering how the only beings that tanked a killing intent saitama punch (not like rover or sonic) is cosmic garou and boros

[@joaquincasascortes624]

@@syenous2454 You can scale other characters and monsters to Saitama's regular punches. Yes, he holds back sometimes. Everytime he punches regular humans he doesn't use the same force he used to destroy a meteor. But you can't measure most of the times how MUCH he holds back. As much as I know, Saitama can perfectly measure the ammount of strenght needed to kill or knockout someone. For example, monsters like Elder Centipede and Evil Natural Ocen required Saitama using a serious punch to be defeated. That means they should scale above many monsters (and makes sense, literally nobody could've defeated both of them besides Tatsumaki and Blast). Now, in the case of Goketsu and Carnage Mode Kabuto, it's a hard one. Both of them could've defeated Genos in a single attack, but since Goketsu defeated a stronger form of Genos and Genos felt he was stronger than any other monster he has seen before, it makes me believe he could be Silverfang level (with both of them beikg capable of toyng with dragon level monsters)

[@CausalViewer23]

Personally, I like your takes just because I believe people underrate orochi and tats. So any excuse to say they are both stronger than PS is good enough for me.

[@Natty5D]

almost noone thinks tats is weaker than ps. some ppl may bring ps vs orochi but PS himself is as well underrated. But Tats is def not underrated

[@EvKindaGoofy15]

Bro really tried to rizz up yacine without us noticing

[@CausalViewer23]

Great video. Crazy how with new perspectives saying Tats can beat PF Garou is too outlandish.

[@Mx_E_is_me]

For the most part I agree, I side more with Tatsumaki against wing Garou because Tatsumaki passive barrier did protect them enough where they were relatively fine after getting hit by psycho Orochi energy blast, but I think gargoyle Garou would win against Tatsumaki like 55% of the time.

[@nugolderp4115]

Can you do other similar hot takes videos? I like these, despite having a pretty different opinion (I don't think he needs full Gargoyle Garou) I love seeing other opinions about the franchise, and for example Orochi vs Sage Centipede gave me a whole other view about a match up between them (I thought they were just relative to each other)

[@SatorisYT]

I probably will do more of these and I'm happy to hear that 😃

[@mikeym.4724]

You lost me at the first form of bulky Garou. Due to sheer difference in speed, when Garou notices he can't bypass durability with regular attacks, he still would have a chance to react and adapt His Tactics and change to the fajín attack before Tatsumaki can even react. Remember that he moves in fractions of a fraction of a fraction of a second in a much weaker form and he reacts in such Time or even Faster. In comparison his perception of Time Is several times slower than that of Tatsumaki. So his second form should win using your own logic...

[@Shinobuhusband-l6w]

Tatsumaki negs

[@mikeym.4724]

@@Shinobuhusband-l6w She negs the funhouse for midgets Garou destroys

[@bully6533]

yup i think his second form mid diffs tats

[@diondadigger]

I never thought Tatsumaki was this strong. As a Tatsumaki fan, I must thank you for the respect on my goat

[@elmousse007]

Because she isn’t. Don’t get me wrong, she is indeed very strong but this video overestimates her capacity a lot

[@Sbbooster]

Hentai goat

[@Sbbooster]

@@elmousse007yeah definitely overrated her too much

[@HeySpecified]

​@@elmousse007nah all this was literally stated in the manga.She is too underestimated lol.Even Saitama stated that she is strong lol💀

[@Shinobuhusband-l6w]

@@elmousse007she is. You lost ur argument kid

[@alexandernoorzoy5327]

I thank gargoyle garou Can tank tatsumakis attacks, seeing as he was taking saitamas normal punches without issues

[@shadowreezy3137]

Saitama was holding back to not kill either of them, each normal can have more force and damage than to maybe kill or send others flying

[@maadkhalil1855]

there is a big diff from saitama wanting to kill a monster and saitama beating up a human who is half a monster and also promised to not kill garou.

[@bully6533]

those "normal punches" woudve killed psychorochi which garou took with no problem

[@hissatsu4937]

Garou speed blitz Tatsumaki like he did with Platinum, leaving a chunk of body parts splattered around the place

[@hissatsu4937]

@llllllllllllll_. Umm....the barrier didn't fully protect her against Psyrochi beam attack. You can see how parts of her clothes was ripped off. What is the point of even comparing two completely different attacks like this? Just bc the Psyrochi beam was at a much bigger scale it doesn't mean it packs the same kind of power as a direct attack from Garou. It may, but so far we have not seen Tatsumaki to have that kind of fight with anyone. All we've seen is the fight with Psykos and Orochi fusion. That's basically it.

[@hissatsu4937]

@llllllllllllll_. Not saying that. Flashy Flash only competetive with his sword. That sword will not break any barriers unless it's the moon or sun blade

[@hissatsu4937]

@llllllllllllll_. If the shockwave of the beam gets through then why can't Garou do so as well? We know if Garou connects with anything it's instant kill. But since we can't say for sure then it will just be speculation I guess. Gargoyle Garou on the other hand should not be debatable. Extreme Fa Jin would obviously break through that barrier like nothing.

[@dimass4031]

Her barrier is not a Gojo infinity. It is not that hard to bypass it

[@elmousse007]

Exactly. Starting from when he destroyed Platinum S and evil water in seconds, no S class hero could compete at this point. He even goes on to destroy Sage centipede while Elder Centipede survived 2 fights against Blast, the strongest hero

[@thorshammer7883]

I have my doubts that each transformation necessarily imply some hundred times multipliers as all it takes is someone having to be at minimum 7x-8x times stronger then their opponent to one shot them according to some threads. So it doesn't have to be as astronomical as some people think. Even a 20x multiplier is quite powerful. Something many people fail to understand accurately is that for each tier between 1 petaton to 1 exaton - 1 zettaton - 1 yottaton there is always a one thousand times comprehensive energy gap between each tier. So if you were a single exaton buster and got a ten times amp you would only be a 10 exaton buster not a zettaton tier. Many people think of power amps these days like Dragon Ball power cliffing too many times which is quite a problem in the powerscaling community these past few years which one of many practices which has led to many many overscalings for certain sagas, arcs, and characters in many franchises.

[@tmbpotatoe5975]

Thinking about it, it's pretty funny that how we tell if someone is strong is that we see if saitama compliments them, lmao.

[@MZOver]

“Just the suck alone”-Satori

[@tcaveiras]

I respect the arguments shown, but Murata already said that he is unsure on who would win between Tatsumaki and Orochi, so NO, there is NOT a huge gap between them. Also, Psykos ONLY fused with Orochi's blob and NOT his Full Power. And it is ALSO stated by Murata that Tatsumaki NEEDS to be in perfect shape to beat Golden Sperm (who is literal FODDER to Garou). Sage Centipede is most likely stronger than "Psykos Orochi", since God saw them die and was confident in sending Sage Centipede to take revenge. And Tatsumaki is CONFIRMED equal (or even slower) to Sonic in speed... who is quite literally thousands of times slower than Platinum Sperm (faster than Flashy Flash), who in counterpart might as well be millions of times slower than "Gargoyle Garou" after multiple power-ups. "Perfected Fist Garou" blitzes Tatsumaki so bad and with accumulated speed and strength enough to one shot her, regardless of her barrier being active or not. So, in the end this fight is NOT close at all and "Perfected Fist Garou" is enough to no diff her.

[@theflash6585]

This is outdated and doesn't take in Tatsumakis feats against Psyrochi and the changes in the manga unless you think FP cosmic garou and Boros is an even fight which was also stated by a more credible source the creator So no outdated statements which are inconsistent with the story and the feats are not credible even if they from the artist and creator

[@northkoreasadmoments]

when was tatsumaki ever stated to be equal to sonic? Lmao the cadres have shown FTL feats in the manga (such as the three way battle between Flashy Flash, Perfected Garou, and Platinum S), Psykosorochi is definitely above the cadres, so it’s not far fetched to believe that Psykosorochi is FTL, or even FTL+. If you read Tatsumaki vs. Psykosorochi, Tatsumaki is shown to be relative in speed to Psykosorochi. Garou blitzing the cadres, while being an amazing feat, it doesn’t ensure that he could blitz Psykosorochi, since that assumes Psykosorochi is equal to the cadres.

[@mangekyosharingan2351]

Bro you also have to consider stamina. I think garou has way more stamina than tatsumaki and if he can get her psychic powers worn down which i def think he can with how durable he is, he can win. I think it was stated in the psychorochi fight that her small body can't handle her power output or something. Just something to take in mind.

[@C.H872]

The best power scaling I’ve ever seen for one punch man, period.

[@wolfdhib22]

Yeah before I think that garou is Overkill but now monster garou vs tatsumaki is close but still garou win high diff

[@codafett]

It's strange that people assume that Tatsumaki is so weak, ONE deliberately had her be knocked out before Garou started fighting.

[@Fodder_ong]

you and yacine should do a stream or video about opm powerscaling

[@kervinestomago-is3zr]

in my opinion tatsumaki could win since she fought a monster fused together which is called psykorochi which was able to destroy a whole crust of the earth and not only tatsumaki won, she was HOLDING back since she know that she would be able to destroy earth. Genos was able to measure monster garous power although tatsumaki? nah he wasn't able too. in the manga he said. "this power..isn't measurable" meaning tatsumaki would absolutely fold monster garou. (Btw can you make Boros vs Lightninja?)

[@Nuclearhero_e]

Its not close. Monster gauro bullies Also if you do some cacs monster gauro is multi contineta+ after the ps fight. But if you include acceleration x mass law you can figure out that if he hit the ground with his ap he could be considered low end plantery at low ball since he is MFTL+ light travels at a max distance while being faster then light proves you are faster then said distance. Another fact is that a weakened tatsumaki could not take down furher ugly which shows he is extremely weaker when weakened, another fact is simple, reaction time. Tastukmaki has shown at best light speed reaction time while if she can't react to the attacks she cannot make an attack as fast as it.

[@fitnessstuff915]

tatsumaki was the only hero, to tank a punch from god and keep fighting. even saitama hasn't done that!!! 🤯 and, he punched her while her back was turned .

[@Nuclearhero_e]

@@fitnessstuff915 blud you are smoking so hard

[@fitnessstuff915]

@@Nuclearhero_e you should reread chapter 139.

[@Shinobuhusband-l6w]

Tatsumaki negs. Stop reading

[@adwans1491]

Youre taking this pull force thing way to serious...

[@maku3857]

Personally, I think it takes cosmic to stop and taking into account that he does get stronger overtime. I don’t even know he could initially do it. Especially with the feats she has against Saitama who is exponentially stronger than he was before, and then you know if you do possibly take the VGS that’s on top of the saitama who’s been growing every single day and she’s clearly grown a lot since she couldn’t even move hair Saitama, and then when she’s potentially still not recovered from the monster association, and she lifts saitama at his current level,plus it took him resorting to a series attack to stop with the Gaia canon which could scale above any normal attack using statements about his serious self

[@VLADLolz]

Keep up the good work satori! been a fan since u had about 900 subs and you already have over 3x that! hope to see you have 5k subs by the end of the year tbh (also that was a funny intro lol)

[@SatorisYT]

Thanks! Happy to have You here!

[@tariffictypist7372]

I honestly think that extreme fajin wouldn't work on tatsumaki as psyko orochi used a great power attack to slice the continent, and did minimal damage to her

[@werewolf-dt6pm]

Bro you should keep up the good work ❤️ i can see all your efforts you put in your video i watches your video

[@SatorisYT]

Thank You! Appreciate it!

[@kkisthebomb4205]

Ngl, tatsumaki also doesnt go all out at the beggining, she fought another esper weak monster and watched his power before testing their durability and taunting how weak they are before killing them with the crush, also thing is garou could always be near her so she cant use the barrier unless she wants to die too, bulk garou has to take the win ngl, and remember hes way faster so idk how she is gonna even react to him

[@jokeromega843]

Nice video

[@SatorisYT]

Thanks!

[@shadowreezy3137]

I like your takes, it just makes me think different, even though it’s your take, so much evidence you did, I like that, one of my favorites on One punch man, even tho you do other things, I still appreciate what your doing, keep doing what you like 👍

[@SatorisYT]

Thanks!

[@shadowreezy3137]

@@SatorisYT Your welcome!

[@HenriqueErzinger]

I remember that when ONE was asked about Saitama vs Mob, he mentioned full power ???% Mob would be slightly weaker than Tatsumaki. So yeah, she's pretty broken.

[@zuko1569]

I heard a different answer from other people. They said that ONE didnt give an answer and left it vague on purpose for fans to ponder about

[@yoda998]

not slightly, she's wayyyyyyy more powerful than him, that statement is mad old.

[@yoda998]

@@zuko1569 Mob's best feat is city level, tatsumaki destroys him like she did to gryo gryo

[@Shinobuhusband-l6w]

@@yoda998facts

[@kaiserquasar3178]

I think if Tats is 2 one-shot tiers above Orochi she should at least be equal to bulky Garou AP wise, as I take scentipede and EOW to be orochi-tier combined, and perfected fist is above sage by a 1-shot tier, while bulky Garou is a one-shot tier above that since he thought he could fight a Saitama that previously one-shot him. This is ignoring the boosts Garou gets in the middle of battles, but also the boost Psyrochi got between her 2 forms, so I think it's reasonable to say Tats is around that tier. Given that Orochi is casually at the higher end of Splanet level, 2 one-shot tiers above that (I believe a one-shot tier to be 10x-ish) and accounting for Orochi upscaling from his suck force I would guess bulky Garou and Tats are around planet level+, maybe low-end LPL.

[@0nlyBoston]

it makes me happy to see that at least someone is giving the edge to tatsumaki in most of these matchups. personally, i think, due to just.. better feats in general, tatsumaki wins against every form. (obviously, with low-extreme difficulty depending on the form. as much as i hate garou, i can not lowball him.) but.. depending on the circumstances or scenarios, garou COULD win. (and cfg wise, he definitely would lmao.)

[@animatorbroman3710]

Personally this video is so iduitucally wrong. I'm pretty sure anyone can beat up a sassy child.

[@shadowreezy3137]

Everyone ones opinion, it was just his take on the debate

[@animatorbroman3710]

​@@shadowreezy3137 dude its obviously joke

[@shadowreezy3137]

@@animatorbroman3710 Sorry, I had a tends misleading information or jokes, I don’t usually use to it 😅

[@chrishosey7535]

​@@shadowreezy3137 "sassy child" was the indicator.

[@wolfdhib22]

Garou still way durable since normal punch from Saitama can do nearly planet level attack's and garou is way faster and with fa jin he can ignore the barrier durability and Hit tatsumaki 3 monster form win low diff First and second probably loss

[@alexrodrigues4775]

Vs Monster Garou? Sure Vs Cosmic Horror Garou? Can't even touch him and dies from radioative poisoning.

[@Foxes4035]

She gets stomped neg diff but she wouldn't die of radiation the barrier would keep her safe

[@gerardoemilianorosasramire1575]

In my opinion this video is right about Tatsumaki winning the battles the only thing missing is the argumentation, in the comments it is mentioned about Garou's feat of how he resisted Saitama's consecutive punches, the problem here is that they are forgetting about the feat that is being emphasized over and over again. In the manga it is mentioned that Saitama was not trying to kill him and was holding back ,now, a normal hit from Saitama in the timeline of this moment (not in the fight against Cosmic Garou) would be equivalent to city level, the consecutive punches is possibly (correct me if I'm wrong) equivalent to multi-city level now this in normal mode and in the arc of the monster association.

[@SatorisYT]

Hard disagree on Saitama's punches against Garou being city level, bare minimum moon level as a mad lowball IMO, but yeah, maybe I could have gone more into it. I've gone in detail to why I think Garou's fight with Saitama isn't that impressive in various videos, especially "How Strong Is Boros?", I don't remember how much detail I went into here though.

[@gerardoemilianorosasramire1575]

Psykosorochi's lightning was multi-continental, lightning that Tatsumaki resisted with his barrier, with this argument Garou's supposed resistance was debunked. Now about the speed it is true that Garou is much faster but not as much as what I saw in a comment saying that he would pass the barrier in a fraction of a fraction of a second, first of all if we calculate the speed of Tatsumaki that would be as follows: Tatsumaki reacted Sonic in his battle against Saitama,Sonic can move at 343m/s ,that in a normal mode; in his battle against Psykorochi ,Psykorochi condenses energy beams and based on the distance traveled of the Multicontinental beam and the others we can say that Tatsumaki was moving at 1860m/s which means that she moves and reacts at the speed of light obviously Garou is more fast but this gives it a slight advantage due to its barriers and reaction speed.

[@SatorisYT]

@@gerardoemilianorosasramire1575 Pwrsonally I have Tatsumaki at around 40-80 times FTL based on characters much earlier in the series dodging light and the scaling chain that comes from that.

[@Billy_Herrington1969]

A lot of comments on the other "Tatsumaki vs Garou is no close" video say that Garou tanked multiple hits from Saitama, but they miss the fact that he was massively holding back, since he didn't wanna kill him or hurt him severely, the Garou wank is crazy.

[@dontawilliams8433]

Real

[@jet047]

Additional: It didnt happen in the manga but in the webcomic, Tatsumaki(injured) tried using her powers to golden S and awakened garou but didnt work, same way happen to saitama later on but tats was fully healed I think they're few characters who could resist tats power like ugly fuhrer(because of his ugliness power) and of course garou( becuz he can adapt)

[@0nlyBoston]

garou was only able to adapt to gyoro gyoros power, (who tatsumaki beat with no diff)

[@Sbbooster]

@@0nlyBostonpremonster garou compared to monster garou

[@Sbbooster]

@@0nlyBostongargoyle garou is close in power compared to boros and boros is star level. Tatsumaki who is multi continental to planet level means she barely compares sadly.

[@0nlyBoston]

@@Sbbooster gargoyle garou *probably* beats tatsumaki, yes. but she is definitely multi planetary.

[@Sbbooster]

@@0nlyBoston mhm i just don’t think it’s close since monster garou one shotted platinum s and sage centipede and i doubt tatsumaki is a 1 shot tier above them

[@lepepepepe3196]

Think you got one thing wrong because didnt tatsumaki dodged the light beam attack from psykos orochi that split some part of earth?

[@lepepepepe3196]

Nvm just check and she did got hit lol

[@Atriedits4040]

I he was just being nice to tatsumaki.psykos best feat is slicing a continent but orochi's is planet level I personally think orochi>tats but she is Very underated

[@fitnessstuff915]

i think tatsumaki fights are what drive the manga

[@Atriedits4040]

​@@amangeldjanargul7120I think it's like an inconsistentcy cause orochi's pulling force alone is planatery and pykorochi is at best multi continental it really doesn't make sense

[@amangeldjanargul7120]

@@Atriedits4040 why didn't you reply for 3 weeks?

[@wolfdhib22]

Can you give the scaling of boros and cosmic Phoenix man from your series

[@SatorisYT]

I've done that on a live stream before

[@wolfdhib22]

@@SatorisYT no I don't mean disaster level I mean power scaling

[@randomyoutubeEnjoyer468]

you didn't mentioned the fight between garou and orochi and how garou was able to get a multiple hits and laser beams from him and still stand

[@SatorisYT]

@@randomyoutubeEnjoyer468 Orochi was extremely supressed and specifically trying not to kill Garou.

[@randomyoutubeEnjoyer468]

@@SatorisYT still an apressive feat especially when you know that garou was in his human form

[@BananaSlayer666]

saitama was more handicapped against tats because he tried to keep her away from other humans but whit garou he only tried to not kill him so id say this battle is extremely close also saitama didnt use a single punch directly at tatsumaki

[@fitnessstuff915]

😳 wtf!? wow! looks like someone didn't understand the saitama/tatsumaki arc. 🤯 saitama is a stupid, conceited, immature butthead who's iq and tactical skills are less than those of the hulk. everybody knows that his true motive for attacking tatsumaki was to try to bully and intimidate her because he incorrectly blamed tatsumaki for destroying his apartment. and, if he was so handicapped, why would grab the wrist of a woman who is half his size and has half of his strength? I think it's because he's too stupid and immature to use his words or he's afraid of her!🤯 and he actually put his hands on her without her permission - that's assault. tatsumaki even screamed at saitama several times to let her go. she also called him a "pervert." finally, he kidnapped tatsumaki!!! 😳🤯🤢🤢🤢🤮🤮🤮🤮 and, before any of you inaccurately say that saitama was just trying to prevent tatsumaki from hurting anyone or damaging buildings, go back and read chapter 176. all that destruction was saitama's fault.

[@jaceypennies]

@@fitnessstuff915i aint readin allllllll that ☠️

[@fitnessstuff915]

@@jaceypennies 😳 what's the problem? can't you dragon ball fans read??? 🤯

[@ding5296]

@@fitnessstuff915 no way this isnt a troll

[@fitnessstuff915]

@@ding5296 😳 wtf!? first of all, if you bothered to read the chapter, saitama got it all wrong (as usual) he blamed tatsumaki for destroying his home (where he and genos were swatting). he interjected himself into a family situation, between fubuki and tatsumaki, that he knew nothing about. then he attacked tatsumaki!🤯 he touched her without her permission, he grabbed her wrist and refused to let her go, which is assault, then he kidnapped her. 😳🤯 for me, chapter 176 was the most disgusting and disappointing chapter in manga/anime history that i ever read. saitama tried to bully and intimidate a woman who is half his size and has half of his strength. thats right down there with dragon ball scenes of goku and vegeta beating up children.🤮 for me, saitama is no longer the "caped baldy." he's now the "caped bully." and all the gropings he did to tatsumaki seemed akin to the "r" word. perhaps it's a cultural thing but "no" should means "no" in every culture. tatsumaki screamed at saitama several times to let her go. she even called him a "pervert." and, before any of you inaccurately say that saitama was just trying to prevent tatsumaki from hurting anyone or damaging buildings, look at how much distruction saitama's actions caused. and with garou, if saitama would pull his head out of his ass and act like a real hero, none of this would have happened. let's be honest, saitama is just like the hulk - punches first and thinks last. like the time he punched the giant marugori who fell on city b and probably killed thousands of people and destroyed thousands of buildings. or when he fought monster garou for fun and needlessly destroyed thousands of buildings and bent the planet. or the time he punched cosmic garou without thinking and almost destroyed the earth and killed billions of people.🤯

[@fitnessstuff915]

in chapter 134, the fact that tatsumaki tanked a punch from god but kept fighting means that at full power, she could be as strong as saitama!!! 😳😳🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯

[@LouisWilliams-ic1kb]

No she doesn’t 🤦‍♂️

[@fitnessstuff915]

@@LouisWilliams-ic1kb go reread the chapter. this time, try not to stare at tatsumaki's legs so much because you might miss those huge easter eggs.

[@LouisWilliams-ic1kb]

@@fitnessstuff915 I literally just read it God would destroy normal tatsumaki instantly especially fatigued tatsumaki it’s more likely she used her powers too much

[@fitnessstuff915]

@@LouisWilliams-ic1kb you didn't see the moon images or what appears to be the sun setting behind her? oh well. it all very important you know.

[@gammafrost]

@@fitnessstuff915there’s no implication god did anything to her. Tatsumaki would lose and is not comparable to saitama in any way. The result would be the same even if she accepted God’s power.

[@leeroberta.gelbolingo371]

some of this tats fan is going CRAZY, to the point there saying tats tank a punch from GOD

[@gajendermalhotra9635]

I think you are the only one who thinks tatsumaki can defeat monster garou I don’t think she can

[@thespecster5149]

you should cover the ninja village leader!

[@marssaintsenat2995]

You would need a disaster level god to able to take out tatsumaki she's that broken she can even stop the earth from moving for 5 minutes if she wanted too

[@erert-f9p]

You completely forgot that garou could use his martial arts to counter Tatumaki and cut the rocks and stuff

[@SatorisYT]

I agree that just throwing rocks and stuff would be useless. Tatsumaki would maybe throw a few before realizing that and switching to using pyre psychokinesis to increase gravity, create barriers and attempt to crush Garou. At that point in the fight, I don't think martial arts matter all that much personally.

[@baleen8920]

Tatsumaki is also fast as when she runs with saitama on the ground sonic comes to them with his speed so tatsumaki is near light speed

[@SatorisYT]

Agreed, although I will say I think she's easily dozens of times FTL personally.

[@pastelvinsona8668]

They undermined tatsumaki in that other video

[@rdtarcade7644]

insane glazing of tatsumaki. you just kinda assume that the barrieres are impenetrable yet garo has resistance. what large scale attack could hit him? he is by far fastest character not named blast saitama or boros so he should be able to doge any amount of rocks thrown at him and he can easily turn that drill to dust in one attack. on top of that i think his higher developments are heavily underestimated because he only faced saitama. just basing their strenght of how hard much you think saitama was trying is too little imo. it is also confirmed that garo can tank a normal punch because he did survive. on top of that, in saitama vs tasumaki saitama is doing the exact same thing to her as he did to garo, not trying at all talking all the time just not being serious. and the whole "i couldnt contain you" is just bs imo because HE WAS CLEARLY NOT TRYING TO CONTAIN HER. he only ever asked her can we please go back to that open space. and unlike with garo saitama never attacked tasumaki

[@holy_cow1]

also i disagree, i think that 2nd monster form garou and gargoyle garou can defeat tatsumaki, and gargoyle stomps. 2nd monster form grew much stronger and i think he can easily tank tatsumaki's attacks, especially gargoyle garou.

[@zacharyhsieh9358]

Even if he can’t tank her hits he will just speed blitz and one shot her. As soon as he realizes his normal attacks aren’t working lethally then he’ll work to hitting past her barriers, where all of this can happen likely before tatsumaki can even react

[@DISCHARGE2-3]

Bro says normal punch doesn't mean it's always the same strength

[@Mansukh09]

i think its subjective if its the monster garou that fought flashy flash and platimum S then he would get demolished if its the one that fought Sage centipede or saitama its close

[@marssaintsenat2995]

The monster cell increase the user by 10x While God's gift probably increase the user by 20

[@See_Saad]

I finally agree with you

[@elmousse007]

Great video but I disagree. Tatsumaki is actually not a durable fighter, that’s why Bang have better charts that her and she is clearly not more powerful than Garou. Starting from Perfecr fist Garou, no S class hero is standing a chance at this point. He literally cut Sage centipede in half when Elder centipede survived Blast the strongest S class twice

[@jx8903]

1. Tatsumaki can reinforce her physical stats by using TK. 2. We don't even know the context of the fight + Tatsumaki defeated a being much stronger than Orochi himself, which is already massively above EC, you can't ignore her feats.

[@Shinobuhusband-l6w]

U just a hater and you lost all your arguments bum

[@holy_cow1]

new epic video

[@brokenamvs9707]

Is it ok to just trust Psykorochi saying that she was stronger than squirt gun Saitama? I mean this happens a lot in OPM where people underestimate Saitama like Bakuzan and Choze thought that they were strong enough to beat Saitama after becoming monsters unless you think Saitama used a stronger punch on monster Bakuzan than he did on his human version which is quite unlikely

[@SatorisYT]

The thing is that doesn't really matter. We obviously know Psyrochi couldn't beat Saitama. The thing that matters is that she saw Saitama effortlessly one punch Orochi, and she thinks she can beat a guy that can do that (literally calls him fodder). We of course know she isn't aware of Saitama's full power, but she is confident she can casually beat the level of power Saitama displayed against Orochi. Bakuzan and Choze also witnessed/felt a very suppressed Saitama and thought that with monsterization, they could defeat that specific level of power. As for Saitama's punch on human and monster Bakuzan respectively differing in power, I think it's totally likely actually. Saitama has what I'd like to call the plot punch. Even though he himself has stated he can't tell the difference between monster's power, he somehow always uses the exact right amount to one shot his opponent. Take for example him knocking out Snek without killing him and then later completely killing Deep Sea King, who destroyed Snek. Or him using the exact amount of power needed to one shot human Garou without killing him. Saitama always just knows somehow. And we do know the punches Saitama used on Bakuzan in his human and monster forms have to have different levels of strength. We see in the same arc a skinny dude with glasses gets one shot by his opponent, monsterizes and then one shots said opponent with no difficulty. Monsterization is a massive boost and I'm willing to bet Bakuzan has more potential than that guy, so the boost he got was probably even larger. And yet Saitama only knocked human Bakuzan out, while completely killing monster Bakuzan. The punch can't be the same level of strength between them.

[@n-sedit4133]

PsykosOrochi Complete > Sage Centipede >= Incomplete Sage Centipede > Platinum Sperm > Orochi >= Golden Sperm Garou monsterised 1st form against Saitama solos Tatsumaki FP

[@adrijanasani5899]

In Summary two ways: One of them defeat with extreme difficulity (i hope i write it correct) or it's uknown?

[@PerfectBlueBoyOP]

Great Video :D

[@bloodmoon6983]

In my headcannon garou would oneshot her, because she stole his strawhead. He will use his nine tails and use chakra bomb.

[@rvegelahn5905]

Finally a scaler who doesn’t think tatsumaki loses to monster garou

[@darryltorres7302]

I haven't watch the video yet and I'm already having a hard time believing Tatsumaki is around monster garou level but I'll let you cook.

[@VLADLolz]

also i do think tats is FASTER than perfected fist gar if she's healthy since in post monster association arc during the tatsumaki vs saitama fight, she outsped a saitama that was semi trying to catch a car filled with people that tats flung during her rampage

[@ryansmith21035]

Very interesting.

[@LoudYapper]

Given how high you scale casual Saitama, I wonder how strong you think Boros is, in any of his forms. Do you think Tatsumaki can beat Released Boros, what about 4 armed Gorgoyal Garou, can he beat Meteoric Burst..?

[@SatorisYT]

I've done a video on where I think Boros scales. Some of my opinions have shifted, but the bulk of it is the same: kzbin.info/www/bejne/b3zFon-sYtpgqK8

[@LoudYapper]

@@SatorisYT aaa okay cool, watching it rn xd, and man you scale some characters in the verse very high hugh, I am all for it tbh xd

[@gordez5827]

One and Murata said Garou is equal to Boros so there you go

[@SatorisYT]

There are a ton of problems with using that statement here. But it would take a while to go through it all. Still, for the basics, the statement is ancient by internet time, so things have changed since then. And Awakened Garou's equivalent in the manga is Cosmic Garou, as that's the only time he is actually called Awakened. Before then he is never called Awakened Garou. There's a lot more explaining to be done, but again, it would take too long.

[@Viktor-ej9ss]

You underestimate Garou in multiple of your videos, he took multiple normal punches of Saitama and can easily do planetary level feats. And not going for the kill isn't always using less power, Saitama didn't wanted to kill Cosmic Garou but that doesn't mean Saitama didn't went Serious Mode.

[@shadowreezy3137]

I think he was going full power and getting stronger but I think maybe he was still holding back enough so his blowns won’t kill Cosmic Garou

[@apalahcokk]

I think it's not close at all. Monster garou is only slightly above bang, and tatsumaki for sure can kill that old man in a second. Probably monster garou is more durable than bang that does not mean he is close to tatsumaki This is my personal scaling 1. Cosmic garou 2. Tatsumaki 3. Psychorochi 4. Monster garou 5. Platinum s / bang / bong

[@SatorisYT]

Depends on which version of Monster Garou You're talking about. He gets multiple one shot tiers stronger during his fights. Gargoyle Garou would be able to erase Bang from existence with a breath.

[@apalahcokk]

@@SatorisYT the small monster version one. The one who fought bang equally

[@dimass4031]

@@apalahcokk But against the one who sliced sage centipede in half and mutated one is already debatable

[@igflxcks8122]

Ur always a W👽👍🏼

[@nororo111]

i think gargoyle garou would be slightly weaker than tatsumaki like a bit so she wins

[@DISCHARGE2-3]

He told boros you are tough as well does that put boros over gargoil garou? Breh

[@DISCHARGE2-3]

You do like the physic too much

[@logeswariramrama8470]

Good Video man, I Have a Question, Do You Right now think that Tatsumaki (Blood Lusted) can Kill Released Boros (Full Power)? since Gargoyle Garou Should be Relative or Equal to Released Boros.

[@SatorisYT]

Thanks! I don't. Upscaling Tatsumaki also pretty much directly upscales Boros. The conclusions of this video would just lead to Released Boros being far above Gargoyle Garou.

[@tristankloppers3026]

You hope you dont lose your credibility, your talking about orochis sucking force 😂 But you do have good points

[@orochieditzz]

Great video tatsumaki solos most of garous forms

[@mr.ultimatek]

Now What about Orochi vs Platinum S.. ???

[@SatorisYT]

I might talk about that sometime

[@Jonas-sg1eo]

you give garou way to much credits , he cant be above divine orochi+psykos without devine power him self , there is no way he can win .regardless you comparing garou to saitama and then comparing to tatsumaki but the fact is saitama never tried to fight him rather then letting him to tire out as he promised kid not to hurt him . Garou main feat is copying and improving techniques thats how he was able to fight saitama psychic powers are not techniques rather ability , so i do not think he would be able to copy that leaves him no way of winning , unless you match him up with garou who already copied blast abilities still not sure how he can win against tatsumaki its just poor matchup i am talking here about cosmic fear garou as any other are just insignificant . Orochi had same abilities as garou able to copie other people techniques , even saitama used killer move serious series against him on top of that merged with psykos and infused with devine power and still that was childs play for tatsumaki that should say more then it needs . as i said garou was strong because he was able to copy saitamas strength and blast abilities , if he cant do that to tatsumaki its game over . prove me wrong with facts or manga content

[@bully6533]

Garou can literally adapt to anything , he said blast isnt even worth his attention . Gargoyle garou cannot be touched or hurt , since he can regenerate instantly. Tats every attack would be useless against him and she would eventually run out of stamina and would get turned into ground beef by garou. extreme fajin is overkill. Also psyorochi is post sage centipede garou vctim , mid diff at max . There's literally nothing tats can do . Dont get me wrong Im also a tats fan but she gets touched everywhere by garou.

[@Jonas-sg1eo]

@bully6533 thats garou with gods power . Without gods power saitama punched all his monster nonsense with regular punch . Tatsumaki beat psykos and orochi with god power who was power full enpugh to destroy entire plannet , plus garou is hand to hand combat close range tatsumaki is physic she can crush him to dust send him to space and do anything to him the only way garou to match tatsumaki is to get gods power

[@bully6533]

@@Jonas-sg1eo Nope psyorochi isn't planetary, neither it's mentioned anywhere nor it's implied, she could only attack on a continental scale max to max. And Tatsumaki can't hurt him with psychic powers, and even if he is damaged a little, he can instantly regenerate and he also has infinite stamina, meanwhile tatsumaki would run out of gas and get pulverized by a normal punch from garou. Those punches from saitama which hit garou, any one of those "normal" punches would've vaporized psyorochi Or tatsumaki. Garou would easily adapt to psychic powers(as he did with gyoro gyoro) and fodderize her with perception blitz. He doesn't even need to use Extreme Fajin. In conclusion psychic powers can't do shit to gargoyle garou. He can take on tatsumaki and psyorochi at the same time no problem. And it's heavily implied that extreme fajin is Planetary at max. Also post sage centipede garou can beat psyorochi( God's powers) mid difficulty.

[@Jonas-sg1eo]

@@bully6533 you have good imagination go read manga instead. it was literaly shown that Psyrochi using gods power able to split earth . and only able to blast though tatsumaki shield . infinite stamina , infinite regeneration where you getting this shit from instead of making stuff up go read manga and use meterials that is provided . garou punch is nothing he cant even touch tatsumaki hes basicaly meele fighter fighting range who can fly , he cant literally do anything to her until he gets god power hes just martial art monster hes literaly mister nobody saitama had to go easy on him cuz he made promise not to kill him . While also saitama using serious squirt gun against orochi also orochi can also copy ,martial art techiques like garou . and comparing gyoro gyoro in a puppet mode against tatsumaki casual blasting him into pieces is just stupid . I am not even fan of tatsumaki but it was literaly obvious based on manga so instead of making stuff up go and read again

[@bully6533]

@@Jonas-sg1eo Lol ur imagination is insane. When tf did she ever split the earth? In which chapter? are we reading the same manga? I think it's u who need to re read the entire arc cuz u are just downplaying garou too much. Garou was fighting continuously since the beginning of the monster association with literal monsters ( gyoro gyoro, orochi, black luster, etc etc ) all the way until saitama and didn't show any signs of fatigue on the contrary he just kept evolving and adapting. And he was instantly regenerating any damage. Even a single punch from "easy going" saitama would literally pulverize psyorochi and tats. Comparing orochi's adaptation to garpu is ridiculous . It's like comparing prime tyson to a child lmao. The Garou which adapted to gyoro gyoro was half monster who's a million times weaker than post sage centipede garou, he can adapt to far greater threats in his gargoyle form. There's literally nothing she can do except getting killed, as I said earlier she doesn't have the stamina to fight someone like garou. She may beat PF Garou who was fighting bang, but gargoyle Garou is 100 one shot tiers above PF Garou , he would vaporize the entire S class in microseconds.

[@sammcfarlane2494]

Yacine did before you. I’m a huge fan of him, no offence.

[@smskrson]

orochi victims

[@ehhicotuzrobic8271]

Both can handle Orochi definitely

[@smskrson]

@@ehhicotuzrobic8271 nice joke

[@jx8903]

Funnily enough both of them scale above Orochi: - Tatsumaki (Full HP) > Tatsumaki (Injured) > Psyko-Orochi > Orochi's perception of Saitama's strenght >>> Orochi himself (one shotted by Saitama). - PF Garou >> Orochi (Saitama through Garou was the Monster King based on his strenght, while he saw Orochi as some Bath Monster or sassy child).

[@DISCHARGE2-3]

Bro coping

[@Thefadingkm]

I got a idea released boros vs tatsumaki

[@SatorisYT]

I've pretty much already given my thoughts on that in my Boros video. Upscaling Tatsumaki also almost directly upscales Boros, so the things I said there don't really change.

[@Thefadingkm]

@@SatorisYT k

[@marssaintsenat2995]

She lose against cosmic garou

[@jx8903]

Duh?, And so everyone in the verse not called Saitama or God.

[@Ahmad7717.]

Garou solos

[@blue-phoenix115]

Hard to root against a waifu

[@lyesmadi4662]

Genos New form vs genos forms please 😊

[@SatorisYT]

We don't have enough information for that I believe.

[@lyesmadi4662]

I Hope you do vidéo After New genos fight

[@DutchDread]

People underestimate Tatsumaki, they actually thing Boros would be able to beat her.

[@ehhicotuzrobic8271]

Because he can but Tatsu is Monster Garou (Saitama fight) and Base Boros level for sure

[@gammafrost]

Boros could most certainly would beat her with ease especially when he enters his meteoric burst form. She can’t keep up at that point.

[@doomed-crystal3621]

You should do a video about atomic samurai vs kokushibo (demon slayer)

[@SatorisYT]

I don't think it would be very interesting based off of what I know of Demon Slayer scaling 😅 It's fun to imagine, but the scaling just doesn't really line up to make an interesting video