Yeah garou wins the fight, but I still think it would be a interesting fight to watch. Don't get me wrong, I knew garou beats suiryu all day before this vid but their clash of ideals and martial arts and training would be an I teresting one to watch play out
@mhmddabdoub3 жыл бұрын
He can never win against Suiryu, The strongest of all
@swb01ye433 жыл бұрын
I mean Suiryu didn't train for like a lot of years. He's mostly flirting with girls and getting money from the tournament
@ProjektTaku2 жыл бұрын
@@swb01ye43 so if suiryu trained for like a years intensely he could beat garou?
@ultranecrozma74492 жыл бұрын
Doesn’t this happen in the webcomic?
@darraghmcmullen62052 жыл бұрын
@@ultranecrozma7449 Yeah it does. Garou is clearly stronger than Suiryu in the webcomic so I would've loved to see the fight happen when they were evenly matched in the manga. Hero hunter Garou vs Suiryu would've been a spectacle
@godzillakingofthemonsters58124 жыл бұрын
I definitely agree that Garou wins however we could use a higher end for Suiryu in power and speed. Suiryu is explicitly stated to be stronger than Bakuzan, who was himself stated the strongest competitor in the tournament, putting him above a prior Garou and more importantly a younger Bang. Now Bang could have simply held back as it's very much in his character to do so against human beings rather than monsters as he could have easily ripped Garou's head off when he and Bang got to him but didn't. But that's Suiryu's highest scaling. And going off current webcomic, an unmotivated Garou was fighting equally with a limit breaking Suiryu. No monster powers, no nada. Just hand to hand only, and Garou was only about half power during the fight since he wanted nothing to do with it.
@Professor_Fiction4 жыл бұрын
The problem with the Bakuzan statement is that Suiryu himself doesn’t even think it’s true. He saw Garou’s performance the previous year and thought Garou was much more impressive than Bakuzan
@godzillakingofthemonsters58124 жыл бұрын
@@Professor_Fiction That is true, I forgot, he came back basically to fight Garou.
@lenlygelbolingo6429 Жыл бұрын
Bro if water stream is stronger than void fist and a non perfect exploding heart fist is stronger than water stream and if we take bombs statement stament that if bang uses explosion heart he will defeat first monster garou so yeah human garou blitz
@IsaiahSenku3 жыл бұрын
Now imagine if suiryu actually trained like he's supposed to... That fight would be God Of Highchool levels of insane
@kenonerboy2 жыл бұрын
Why is God of highschool so underrated? Has the hypest fights in anime but noone watched it
@IsaiahSenku2 жыл бұрын
@@kenonerboy true but the issue is in the story for me... it skipped so much build up and went straight to the fights...
@djhyperkid862 жыл бұрын
@@kenonerboy It is great but it also skips a ton of stuff.
@MisiaczeXX Жыл бұрын
@@kenonerboy anime is ass, it skipped a training arc, all build up and even an important battle
@kenonerboy Жыл бұрын
@@MisiaczeXX i guess u hate animation
@thomasdevlin58253 жыл бұрын
I always thought this matchup was a little shaky as Garou doesn't have a consistent power level (though unless you're scaling him at where he was at the very start of season 2 he will win every time) but that made me wonder, Garou ends up getting so strong because he keeps pushing himself throughout the entire series, if Saitama wasn't around to stop him he would have never stopped, but Suiryu is naturally gifted, he says himself that he hasn't even trained in years and he's still on the level of Tank Top Master or Puri Puri, if that's how strong he is without even trying, what would happen if he pushed himself? There's obviously no way to say how this would play out, but it's fun to think about
@Professor_Fiction3 жыл бұрын
For this video is Hero Hunter Garo at his peak before he started turning into a monster, which is after his fight with Watchdog Man. Also, Garo is probably more naturally talented than Suiryu if you were curious, the databook explains Garo was born with a super natural fighting sense
@ProjektTaku2 жыл бұрын
@@Professor_Fiction idk, garou was naturally talented but most of his power came from training and fighting, meanwhile suiryu is just using his natural gifts. Their both prodigy's, but garou seems to be the lesser of the 2 with more training.
@pandhuelmanda2810 Жыл бұрын
"What if" is paradox, the fact is that garou work harder
@allencastro9344 Жыл бұрын
@@ProjektTaku We don't even know how long Suiryu trained before he reached that level of power(before he became lazy af), but we all know Garou only trained a few years under Bang and instantly reached S class level of strength, he's also evolving every fight, he doesn't train when he became the hero hunter, so it's just purely talent that's pushing him to become stronger, did Suiryu even become stronger after the ass whooping he got in monster arc?
@ProjektTaku Жыл бұрын
@@allencastro9344 first off, while suiryu did train before reaching his current status, its shown that he never really took it too seriously ever since he was a kid and likely end early on, while garoru was heavily motivated and trained by an S-class hero, and he didn't instantly reach S-class strength, as he was hero hunting, and hero hunting does count as training since he's gaining more experience, but even so, if garou was as outmatched as suiryu was and beaten down that quickly then he'd be in the same situation no matter his evolution.
@rememberme37624 жыл бұрын
Yo finally a good OPM scaler, LET'S GO BRO.
@awekendblast83424 жыл бұрын
Yo ..
@rememberme37624 жыл бұрын
@@awekendblast8342 Sup
@ob_t21564 жыл бұрын
Great video bro. You explained it pretty well without even referencing the abilities of webcomic Garo.
@MemeRaider3 жыл бұрын
Remember to replicate Garou in real life all you have to do is: Go Professional in MMA fighting and Semi - Master 7 martial Arts. Easily adapt to other Professional level martial arts. Fight so hard that you faint more than 3 times. Damage your ACL, Rotator Cuff, bones, and skin through intense battles but heal them as twice as fast due to God like genetics. Each break will heal faster. Get heavily assaulted by gangs. Get brutally beat up by two 9th degree black belt masters in martial arts. Get curbstomped by some bald guy. Summon a real life Demonic demon and fight them. Get almost killed only to sleep through it and wake up 20x stronger and more durable. More healing. Walk on the streets to save some ugly kid from a pedo. Kill the demon who kidnapped that kid. (The summoned demon from earlier) Fight off a very heavily strong bear and gorilla over 2000 pounds pretty easily.
@ProjektTaku2 жыл бұрын
can confirm: did work. Now if you don't mind me imma go fight some fake heroes.
@SuperKamiGuruu2 жыл бұрын
*Water stream rock smashing fist in one hand, Whirlwind Iron Cutting fist in the other*
@rememberme37624 жыл бұрын
When suriyu was fighting the crows he was severely injured so that's not an anti feat, but I agree that Garou wins.
@Professor_Fiction4 жыл бұрын
The point I was making was that when Garou and Suiryu are both fatigued and wounded, Garou just has better feats anyway
@rememberme37624 жыл бұрын
@@Professor_Fiction Aight
@captdeadpool22793 жыл бұрын
I would say garou had it worse cause besides being almost beaten to death by dozens of heroes, he also took a hit from Saitama twice
@mhmddabdoub3 жыл бұрын
No he can't win against Suiryu
@mhmddabdoub3 жыл бұрын
@@captdeadpool2279 can't you realize that he was attacked by Saitama and he went a sleep!!!!!???????
@augustgremaud27382 жыл бұрын
Very well-made video and analysis. Obviously, later forms of Garou beat Suiryu easily, but an early Hero Hunter Garou would be a fun matchup. It would probably start off competitive, but Garou would eventually finish playing and bantering with Suiryu and get serious, winning mid diff. He might catch some hard shots and lose on an exchange or two, but he’d absolutely win going all-out. He might even copy Suiryu’s strongest attack as a finishing move just to illustrate the gap in their abilities. I hope that they wind up as friends/rivals at some point in the series.
@redkey74003 жыл бұрын
And That's Not Even Monster Garou.
@xanthoconite49043 жыл бұрын
wow, incredible job analysing and powerscaling these two characters, I agree with pretty much everything you said, and I'd be super hyped for more one punch man videos similar to this one, especially Manga or webcomic since I prefer those versions over the anime personally.
@galaxyofreesesking21243 жыл бұрын
An actual fight between them would be way more entertaining if Suiryu trained under someone like Bomb for years
@tylercekada6732 Жыл бұрын
I didn't know this was a debate, I always just thought Garou demolishes him like low - med diff
@mjwillin3 жыл бұрын
Great video
@goosemanVEVO2 жыл бұрын
A lot of the misconceptiom behinf threat levels comes from people brlieving they are a straight powerscaling technique, which they arent. They take into account other aspects aside from power, such as aggressiveness, destructive capability and so on. They also come from the lens of the Hero Association who dont always have the full picture of whoever theyre assigning a threat level too. It is also occasionally alluded to that people focus on threat levels too much as a method of judging power. This is done IN UNIVERSE too, once by Garou who tells the three demon level monster who confront him in the MA hideout that they "put too much stock" in them.
@DragonMasterGold3 жыл бұрын
I just want to quickly say I've read through a couple of your comment sections and that I am sorry that are the way they are. For some reason, Anime watchers seem to love to spew trash takes onto small channels. Keep up the content and try to not let it get to you.
@Murtog113 жыл бұрын
I agree with almost everything, but one thing seem to be forgotten here. Against metal bat, Garou makes explicit that speed isnt metal bat greatest atribute, but his strengh is, if metal bat had one clear hit on garou it was to be a one hit K.O. so just to clarify that, Garou speed is amazing, but on that time doesnt necessarily was so out of reach for suiryu
@Professor_Fiction3 жыл бұрын
Well Metal bats speed is still impressive as I outlined with the scaling
@Sparks25202 жыл бұрын
@@Professor_Fiction doesn’t mean your right
@myusername3689 Жыл бұрын
@@Sparks2520 wth do you mean by that? Did you not hear the Carnage Kabuto scaling where Metal Bat actually manages to scale to Carnage Kabutos speed despite Carnage Kabuto blitzing G4 Genos?
@MD-ex7cg Жыл бұрын
Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if Suiryu is stronger than Bakuzan after the monsterization, because he was already weakened from getting slammed into a wall by Saitama, fighting the red dude, and getting bullied by Gouketsu.
@cipherscanner4 күн бұрын
Suiryu thought Bakuzan would brutalize Saitama, despite Suiryu knowing Saitama is so durable that he took no damage when hit by his full power.
@MD-ex7cg4 күн бұрын
@@cipherscanner Suiryu was already heavily injured when Bakuzan reappeared. He would have no way of knowing how strong he actually was.
@cipherscanner4 күн бұрын
@@MD-ex7cg Why?
@MD-ex7cg4 күн бұрын
@@cipherscanner because gouketsu already attacked him, breaking his arm, and flicking him multiple times with the strength of a high dragon level monster. More evidence towards Suiryu possibly being strong enough to kill Bakuzan after monsterfication is the fact that Suiryu broke his toe, even after Suiryu couldn't walk because of how injured he was.
@cipherscanner4 күн бұрын
@MD-ex7cg Okay so you just made two claims, let's stick to one okay?
@Toxicpunk012 жыл бұрын
And he wasn’t to weak to fight the crows!!! He was utterly terrified from gotetsu
@Ricexake Жыл бұрын
Is called meat riding my fav chatzcter gorua
@peeribrahimibu3542 жыл бұрын
Boros can beat Garou easily cuz whenever garau took a gentle beat from saitama he just passed out but Boros took hard punches from saitama and only a serious punch took him down
@argaming38062 жыл бұрын
But Garou Improves in The Webcomic, he Takes many Serious Punches And still Survives
@anildebbarma24812 жыл бұрын
only regeneration saitama shattered him in consecutive punches while garou actually survived
@Returntonature1452 жыл бұрын
Monster garou also had regeneratiom ability and far better stamina than boros
@theannouncer5538 Жыл бұрын
Suiryu is one of the coolest characters that got shafted
@debragotenks Жыл бұрын
They have had a game fight in a One Punch Man filler. It was basically a stalemate.
@MrLim-wq2gn Жыл бұрын
you're talking about the OVA at 7:06
@josephbell44553 жыл бұрын
Bang should put suri as a student see how strong he shall become would be fun to watch
@marcoglara2012 Жыл бұрын
Oh man, The entire examination sounds like it’s being explained by someone who’s never fought in their life.
@Professor_Fiction Жыл бұрын
The video is about cartoon characters
@kotgmarshal8 ай бұрын
I would love to see a Suiryu vs Garou in the future considering where the Manga is at now tbh
@Lectrothatguy6 ай бұрын
bro garou can one punch suiryu now
@SuperKamiGuruu2 жыл бұрын
the logic of power levels, especially in DBZ are pretty soon fed to you and easy to follow. Also Demon > Tiger level monster unless it's a bad match up ability wise I guess
@Professor_Fiction2 жыл бұрын
Wtf do power levels have to do with anything
@SuperKamiGuruu2 жыл бұрын
@@Professor_Fiction watch your own fucking videos lmao
@matthewfarquharson7399 Жыл бұрын
I don't see how this was even a debate
@wuba3547 Жыл бұрын
2 years ago before cosmic garou
@godspeed69803 жыл бұрын
Do we know hero hunter garou's attack potency other than the technique that let's him hit his opponent with double their attack?
@Professor_Fiction3 жыл бұрын
Yes he can damage Genos and Tanktop Master
@godspeed69803 жыл бұрын
@@Professor_Fictionbut is it shown his striking strength can damage genos, also I don't mean about when he pulls his arm off because that didn't really damage him, he does tank an attack in the head by garou and it doesn't damage him
@Professor_Fiction3 жыл бұрын
Him ripping off his arm is him damaging him, that’s an AP feat
@godspeed69803 жыл бұрын
@@Professor_Fiction yes but that's not a striking feat because he just pulls his arm off and is more of a strength feat not an actual attack also genos is more durable depending on where he is hit like how face ripper was damaging g4 genos arms, while he couldn't even damage his head like garou Also his body parts are reattachable so it may be easier to pull it off then to actually damage it
@Professor_Fiction3 жыл бұрын
No he caused physical damage, you can see pieces of Genos falling off of his arm. Also it really shouldn’t matter what part of his body it is since Sonic couldn’t damage any part of hom
@DemoncFerret Жыл бұрын
one of the major issues with powerscaling garou is that his power is scaling up the entire time his arc is going. So when are you comparing suiryu to? suiryu obviously doesn't hold a candle to fully amped up garou, but before starting his monster arc garou gets destroyed by watchdog man who is only the rank 12 s class hero. you reference his growth and adaptability as a strength that would carry him is this fight, but there's no reason to believe he has that outside of his mosterization arc. but if he always had that he would be on par with bang before the arc started.
@Professor_Fiction Жыл бұрын
Garou when he fought Metal Bat is the version of Garou I’m using
@aaronbaker3062 Жыл бұрын
It is stated many times that Metal Bat would have killed Garou with that final blow if not for his sister.
@myusername3689 Жыл бұрын
Yea and Garou could deflect that quite easily and Garou’s variant of the Waterstream fist wasn’t even close to perfected. Really says a lot about what Bang could do since his is the perfected version.
@shawn-80772 жыл бұрын
valid arguments, however, I still do think the threat levels are end all be all, simply because writing characters can be inconsistent, depending what the author wants the vibe to be. Whether it be an epic battle, or an easy one, are all factors that the author would decide, without necessiraly taking into account past battles that are (somewhat) irrelevant, as these battles are usually used to hype-up, or calm-down the vibe and expectations from said characters. TLDR: Threat levels has the final say, because the author purposed it that way. EDIT: But yes, i still agree with the final verdict that garou claps suiryu low-diff.
@Professor_Fiction2 жыл бұрын
The author told us that they aren’t the end all be all
@XxMABY_LauxX Жыл бұрын
Don’t forget Siryu split the stadium in half which is quite a big feet
@Professor_Fiction Жыл бұрын
I explained that in the video
@TemporaryAccount-g8b Жыл бұрын
Don't forget what garou did to land after beaten badly by bang and bomb
@ChrisAndNathan38 Жыл бұрын
“Garou doodos and pee pees all over suiriyu” 💀
@ChrisAndNathan38 Жыл бұрын
Suiryu*
@elias78583 жыл бұрын
This is a very good video
@vegetablackpotato47003 жыл бұрын
Saw this on reddit
@princevegito21433 жыл бұрын
Completely baseless facts from you. Although I do agree that garou would eventually beat suiryu because of how his character his established but still comparing fee class a-c heroes against garou to suiryu's encounter with monsters is not appropriate. I don't know but maybe the monster fruit makes you go at least 1-2 lvl up then your current lvl and suiryu still beat the crap out of that horned guy. And his armour was also impenetrable and suiryu smashed him up. Goukestsu was drgaon lvl , if I'm not wrong here. So him defeating goketsu was pointless. Garou is a beast but goukestsu would have murdered him too.
@Professor_Fiction3 жыл бұрын
1. Uh, there’s no other way to compare Suiryu other than lightning max and Snek 2. “Maybe the monster fruit makes you go at least two level up” idk what that’s supposed to mean 3. “His armor was impenetrable” says what? 4. Gouketsu would beat Garou, I never said he wouldn’t
@cool-as-cucumber3 жыл бұрын
Garou will eclipse Suiryu at some point in the fight and that's when it will be all done
@mikemike47893 жыл бұрын
Suiryu still consious after accidentally hit by hips of Saitama when he rotates imagined that!? Unlike Garou totally unconscious everytime received controlled strike from Saitama.. can anyone scale that!? Suiryu still consious hello.. that is Saitama can anyone scale that?
@Professor_Fiction3 жыл бұрын
You can’t prove that attack from Saitama is stronger than the ones he used on Garou. Otherwise we might as well say Suiryu is more durable than Orochi
@Yhwach_isGAY2 жыл бұрын
Yes unless you're not dumb Because garou wins because sonic matched genos and sonic survived after he took damage in the balls Saitama wasn't even using force for suiryu but he did for garou and lastly garou who is like seriously injured matched with genos like sonic so garou>suiryu
@anildebbarma24812 жыл бұрын
@@Professor_Fiction this guy should recall what he said accidently hit but for garou he didnt he just hit him means his hit was way stronger
@josephjoestar36312 жыл бұрын
This is one of those fights where every single person knows the results as soon as they hear the fight announced. Still would be cool to watch the "handsome overpowered amazing" martial artist get completely stomped by the unheard of, but unstoppable 'monster' Garou
@getnoobed7106 Жыл бұрын
do agree with the outcome but Metal bat was greatly fatigued in that battle with Garou as he was just previously fighting a dragon level threat monster so to say his speed in that fight could be comparable to his fight in the simulation wouldn't be a valid take
@Professor_Fiction Жыл бұрын
Metal Bat gets faster the more damage he takes
@myusername3689 Жыл бұрын
@@Professor_FictionI’m thinking that it’s very likely human Garou is faster than base Carnage Kabuto by quite a bit because of the Metal Bat scaling. Obviously Carnage Mode is just a stomp in Kabuto’s favor.
@DankMoonBlade Жыл бұрын
Searching through your vids make me wish you branched out a little more and got characters that were op and did analyses on them.
@deity58064 жыл бұрын
Nice video
@jacobslay6677 Жыл бұрын
Give Suiryu god’s power, then it might be a fair fight
@AshoreNevermore2 жыл бұрын
Does Suiryu ever get the spotlight again? And does he get stronger? (I haven't touched OPM since the webcomic Psykorochi fight or... maybe Saitama v Garou. I forget which came first. Either way that was a while ago, and if he did something before that I forget.)
@rememberme37624 жыл бұрын
Do you think its possible that Suriyu's genius martial arts could prevent him from getting his attacks deflected back at him even if his opponent is way faster than himself??
@Professor_Fiction4 жыл бұрын
No
@rememberme37624 жыл бұрын
@@Professor_Fiction Why not?
@Professor_Fiction4 жыл бұрын
Because there’s no proof he can
@Professor_Fiction4 жыл бұрын
Plus Garou’s h2h is more advanced anyway
@rememberme37624 жыл бұрын
@@Professor_Fiction Aight
@LordOfChaos.x4 жыл бұрын
I wonder how this even would have turned if Darkshine was present when Goketsku arrived Just for comparasion Darkshine defeated Carnage Kabuto in 15 min and took no damage
@Professor_Fiction4 жыл бұрын
It depends
@LordOfChaos.x4 жыл бұрын
@@Professor_Fiction on what
@Professor_Fiction4 жыл бұрын
How you scale Gouketsu, it’s very weird
@LordOfChaos.x4 жыл бұрын
@@Professor_Fiction Goketsku has no feats backing him up apart from one shooting Genos Darkshine also one shoted Transformed Bug God and pulverized half his body with a held back move Bug God is way stronger than that Genos
@rememberme37624 жыл бұрын
@@LordOfChaos.x You can scale Goukestu by saying he is stronger than Carnage kabuto or you could scale him to Saitama when he blitzed one shotted Carnage kabuto.
@comicbookmyths36644 жыл бұрын
Good video, this is Flash. We should collab.
@rememberme37624 жыл бұрын
Yo, do you scale OPM?
@Professor_Fiction4 жыл бұрын
Yeah for sure dude, just dm me on discord or insta and lemme know
@kenonerboy2 жыл бұрын
Its more a "what version" of garou would loose against suiryu. Maybe suiryu can win against child garou
@adwans1491 Жыл бұрын
based
@badboycooking2 жыл бұрын
Metal bat is honestly super cool
@joespivey91043 жыл бұрын
This isn't even a challenge garou is a monster
@under_cal Жыл бұрын
honestly I saw garou vs suiryu and was wondering if you were just gonna say garou no diff or find some stupid reason to how suiryu would somehow beat garou (glad it was the former)
@hkkingop6493 жыл бұрын
Favorite geanos 🔥😍
@jesuspernia80312 жыл бұрын
Konbu infinity was Tiger level? I thought she was like high demon
@aviasplayz61773 жыл бұрын
well suiryu stopped his training or else maybe he would get chance to win
@Professor_Fiction3 жыл бұрын
there'd be no way to prove that
@aviasplayz61773 жыл бұрын
@@Professor_Fiction it's about garou not awakened garou or half monster garou
@firstlegend51053 жыл бұрын
@@Professor_Fiction we're not proving, we're taking every single possibility that they were trained at the same age but each at their own progress, I think that would be the best option
@shashankpandey8346 Жыл бұрын
was this even a comparison? Garou would obviously win. he is stronger, smarter and more tenact than any mofo out there.
@incription Жыл бұрын
"garou doodoos and peepees"
@emircanozturk8345 Жыл бұрын
they fought in the comic recently. Garou won
@kholoudanimation18172 жыл бұрын
Acctually it pretty obvious that garou will won
@dreadone68943 жыл бұрын
What about sonic he’s on these levels
@Professor_Fiction3 жыл бұрын
I made a video about sonic vs Garou too
@dreadone68943 жыл бұрын
@@Professor_Fiction I saw it right after, thanks!
@mr.giggles9737 Жыл бұрын
not even watching the video already know human garou slams suiryu only reason garou lost in vr was cause he literally was too good and fast
@Pherretfish Жыл бұрын
It’s obvious garou would win but I don’t think it’ll be as easy you’re making it out to be
@rememberme37624 жыл бұрын
Wait is there any proof that Garou had pre cog before he fought king??
@Professor_Fiction4 жыл бұрын
Sorta
@chayanikasaha55672 жыл бұрын
True form of garou compared to Goku
@ProjektTaku2 жыл бұрын
eh, not current goku, maybe goku early on in Z.
@NothingnessforZ Жыл бұрын
Ssj2 Gohan level during cell saga.
@EonehundredYaj Жыл бұрын
Garou would destroy Suiryu however I still believe the fight would be phenomenal
@IanSlusser4 жыл бұрын
Nooooo Suiryu was strong like saitama and was bored with people
@Professor_Fiction4 жыл бұрын
Big Garry the baby stomper Ye stronger than weak ass people
@Yhwach_isGAY2 жыл бұрын
Wait for season 3 then Also in one ova suiryu and garou evenly matched but garou lost due to some glitch
@blackpurple91632 жыл бұрын
I wonder who tf thought garou is in the same league as suiryu, suiryu solos dragon Ball verse don't they know that
@adamlewis47364 жыл бұрын
mmmm yummy video +rep
@tomesflamingo22023 жыл бұрын
In the wape comic Garou wins I the fight chapter 133
@Professor_Fiction3 жыл бұрын
this came out before that happened
@Toxicpunk012 жыл бұрын
Look at the level suiryu and saitamas fight was sorry to say but suiryu would win
@dazeen9591 Жыл бұрын
I think Suiryu wins
@serdarcam993 жыл бұрын
suiryu would make some hard time for normal garou but still lose and he has literally no chance aganist awakened garou
@Handsomeguy-kj2jg4 жыл бұрын
Your not using common sense in a lot of your scaling. You say people use threat levels to determine power using kombu infinity and the crows, yet you fail to say how it’s obvious kombu is a demons based on threats and the occasional incorrect threat level id for monsters who the HA haven’t shown enough knowledge on. kombu is obvious demon and crows are obviously demon while together. You also fail to understand how AP and durability and basically every stat usually go down after being brutally beat up. We see suiryu CASUALLY oneshot snek, max and stay even with choze, when he uses full effort hes able to basically oneshot him. The crows only had the upper hand obviously cause he was beat down badly. Just like the hero team only could keep up with garou cause he was beat down badly. Fights aren’t just AP and speed, there lots of variables that “good” power scalers can’t seem to wrap their head around. You also fail to realize technique or skill is a huge part of the power scaling in opm. Skill allows opponents to hit much harder than their stats would allow. Which is a reason garous durability is low compared to his ap. Also garous skill would be less useful against another skilled opponent like suiryu. But don’t get me wrong garou wins. But suiryu would do better than metal bad on the fact he has a more skilled fighting style then metal bat and higher str then garou.
@Professor_Fiction4 жыл бұрын
Do you wanna hop in my discord so we can talk about this
@davantejohnson78504 жыл бұрын
Damn, does that work for 3 way? Goketsu holding back against an opponent he was unwilling to kill as a martial artist means, those atks were STILL on the lvl of high demon - low dragon. The guy fought against Saitama and technically won prior to only being unable to defeat two dragon lvl monsters in a worn-out state. One of them even admitting being envious and unable to deliver such low lvl atks as explicit bias is used as a preventative measure. Still gets injured by the very individual whom he was too busy torturing. I understand very well Garou's experiences but Genos was actually gonna kill him if Bang didn't step in. Garou beating down the A-class heroes is still one of the best feats in the series but what do you think that ova means with Garou and Suiryu vs each other? It meant under the right setting, they could potentially best each other. Thus it isn't necessarily exclusive to one dominating the other. Infact, it was just revealed Suiryu has knowledge of Bang's martial arts form.. In otherwords, POSSIBLY means on how to deal with it too. I've been saying for the longest the dude has been getting lowballed for this battle & lowest behold - knowing is half the battle. You factor in the speed, strength, technique and durability of Suiryu w/some adaptability vs Garou's Speed, strength, adaptability, durability & technique... It should be one hell of a fight. Remember just how badly he was beating down Metal Bat, Metal Bat (my favorite hero) couldn't even get one hit against this guy Garou & just when he was about to, fights over. That's like weapons Sonic vs Hero-Hunter. Ofc Sonic hasn't had as many fights as Garou [on paper] but to say he wouldn't stand a chance or will even just flatout lose ALL THE WAY UP to Red Garou is wrong through and through! Those speed clones are so awesome Flashy Flash in all his glory hadn't once thought to use them before on his own & proceeded to get scolded by Sonic for copying them mid-fight against other ninja when Sonic indeed challenged him 1st, landed a significant blow and blocked/dodged final ougi - flashy kicks.
@Professor_Fiction4 жыл бұрын
Would you want to talk about this in discord or something cuz you clearly have a lot to say lol
@LordOfChaos.x4 жыл бұрын
Suriyu doesnt have higher strenght than Garou Garou just didint flexed his raw power like Suriyu did
@LordOfChaos.x4 жыл бұрын
No that applies just to Fist of Flowing Water crushing roch not to Void Fist Also Garou has much better durability and can further evolve due to his determination
@okaybutwhythough74562 жыл бұрын
Where Garou is THE antihero in the story, Suiryu is just a somewhat prominent side character, nothing more.
@BriIliance Жыл бұрын
I love suiryu
@supernova17253 жыл бұрын
Garou doesn’t beat boros
@Professor_Fiction3 жыл бұрын
Who said he beats Boros?
@supernova17253 жыл бұрын
@@Professor_Fiction at 11:48 i don’t know if you did it already
@Professor_Fiction3 жыл бұрын
I just said I’d make a video about it at some point I didn’t say who I thought wins
@kholoudanimation18172 жыл бұрын
Monster garou i think he will or yes he will beat borus
@SeraphicViews4 жыл бұрын
Hmm
@rememberme37624 жыл бұрын
It's mostly faxs
@SeraphicViews4 жыл бұрын
@@rememberme3762 Didn't you dm on IG about sum bs
@lylestevenson78333 жыл бұрын
imo garou is stronger because he worked harder but suiryu has much more potential as he basically stopped training and he’s that powerful I put suiryu around low s class as he’s stronger than deep sea king and by extension puri puri
@mhmddabdoub3 жыл бұрын
Suiryu is stronger than all the S Class Heores
@Yes-ot6ue3 жыл бұрын
@@mhmddabdoub Not even close lol.
@mhmddabdoub3 жыл бұрын
@@Yes-ot6ue you are not even close,he is superior than them in everything
@mhmddabdoub3 жыл бұрын
at least and finally, he destroyed a 3 demon class monster with single hit, and a dragon threat monster with like 7 hits. not to forget he faught with Goketsu whom Genos himself said the neeed all S class heroes and Saitama to defeat him
@mhmddabdoub3 жыл бұрын
and then he faught with bakuzan dragon threat and he broke his big finger in the manga he is the best
@licansen3331 Жыл бұрын
Suiryu wins because he knows martial arts and garou dont have good skills without god powers
@NothingnessforZ Жыл бұрын
Oof, that's one of the dumbest and false explanations I've ever seen
@licansen3331 Жыл бұрын
Three crows win over konbu infinity cuz she nit that strong