Why The Art Community HATES Fake Beginner Artists

[@MohammedAgbadi]

*_do you think it's bad to fake being a beginner artist?_*

[@Duc_lovebirdsXD]

Yes.

[@PenguinLover05]

Yea 100%

[@AMountainousAdventurer]

I mean, what they said, as long as it is a social experiment then it is fine (maybe) if it’s for fun then I think it’s bad

[@Darydrawww]

It's very discouraging and upsetting, Imo.

[@KayandTea]

Yes! It’s a bit misleading and discouraging to real beginner artists, who may think, oh if this is what a ‘beginner ‘ artist is than what am I?

[@Sokayro_prolly]

Seeing actually talented artists pretending to be beginners for attention is just sad.

[@MohammedAgbadi]

to be fair it just shows how bad social media has deteriorated😭

[@krsmanjovanovic8607]

Honestly if I was this good and had 0 views I would probs think of doing the same thing... if I was 15yrs old, but right now I just go "it is what it is" and continue improving my fundamentals one step at a time, not caring about recognision because I am here for the art itself, not the audience, you will understand when you get older 👍

[@Petalpool]

It is sad

[@sonoio869]

That's honestly genius. Hell, if only everyone that improves this fast are just people faking their progress rate...

[@clientwolf3637]

That's called going back to ur roots

[@Mace2.0]

Imagine pretending to be a noob just to get attention... But then again, the artist has a point on putting countless hours on a piece and get NO ATTENTION from it, while a low-effort shitpost they made in 5 minutes ends up being the most popular thing they made.

[@MasonTheFurryCat]

so thats why I cant blame the tiktoker for doing it yes it is bad but beginners and pros get way more attention than people in the middle (not a pro nor a beginner)

[@kaionyoki3670]

Facts 😂

[@avi_mation]

​@@MasonTheFurryCatso you mean intermediate?

[@toxiccgrave]

uts not for attention😒

[@ryantheanimator1156]

I'll be honest, spending hours and effort into making art just for some fake internet likes is not the way to go. You keep drawing because you want to improve for yourself, if all you care about is wanting to get hundreds of thousands of likes then that's just bad mentality to keep making art. Don't treat social media likes as the only reason to make art, treat it like a diary that keep track of your drawing progress instead. There are plenty of artists who made some good looking art that started off with barely any likes, but they still keep posting and eventually they gathered tons of audience.

[@ladylady-luck]

Every day my decision to stay away from art tiktok is solidified

[@wrenithilduincats]

I'm just staying away from tiktok in general. Every community I'm interested in being apart of on there is sus (i.e. half of booktok loving Colleen Hoover's "romance books")

[@grimlocked472]

Yeah, I thought it would be good to get my art out there but I noped out after seeing how toxic it was

[@pieceofshoot]

i feel this way about tiktok in general. deleted the app a year ago, and i don’t miss the doomscrolling and drama

[@duh367]

​@@wrenithilduincats did you laugh at their son's big balls?

[@Nameless_shr1mp]

It's pretty good if you wanted to see drama, but yeah.. Posting art there is a NO GO

[@CL-lx2pm]

Why does art tiktok remind me of the shy kids who wanted to be theatre kids, but were too awkward so instead to save their egos they thought they were better than everyone because they were just "more chill"

[@dr.feelgoodmalusphillips2475]

I know plenty of those, my lord...

[@twotruckslyrics]

dont call me out that was me in middle school 😰

[@CL-lx2pm]

@@twotruckslyrics It's all about who we are now, not who we were before we knew better 😊

[@twotruckslyrics]

@@CL-lx2pm 💖

[@oliverzwatermelongum]

be more chill reference

[@Darydrawww]

As a young artist who was convinced that my art was amazing, I spent over a decade drawing and i haven't noticed improvement until 3 days ago, no joke. Remember, Every artist online does not post all their art. They only post their best pieces. Art takes time and people need to understand that. Some may learn faster than others, but the outcome will be worth it if you put work in. Keep going!

[@milkman4743]

I noticed that while I've been improving its been really hard for me to do certain things and I'm not thr greatest at the fundamentals, I applaud others who aren't too great at what they do but still do it cause at least they're tying and gonna improve

[@Sci-Bax]

My art usually looks good, then I do a side profile and the face almost changes artstyle😭

[@Wiggly38]

Since everyone's going on about their art skills in this reply section, I guess I'll add in my curse: I'm naturally good at shading and decent enough at reflections, but I CANNOT SKETCH/OUTLINE FOR MY LIFE. I do not care that I could make a hyper-realistic apple (with reference ofc), I wanna draw funny characters doing funny things with the worst shading known to man D:

[@avi_mation]

I've been drawing for 7 - 8 years and it took me until like 2 years ago to get better ngl 😭

[@BrownieSmoothie]

I used to be so convinced that my art and animation looked good until I finally noticed it really didn’t, I’ve been trying to improve fundamentals as well as other things. Even if your art isn’t the best we should all keep trying and improving!

[@Artkatie]

If i had a $ every time art tiktok was toxic/had drama I'd be the first trillionaire

[@MohammedAgbadi]

bruh!!

[@Shinramenliker]

@@MohammedAgbadibruh!!

[@sunsunrisexx]

​@@MohammedAgbadibruh!!

[@strawb886]

@@MohammedAgbadibruh!!

[@sillyka1ser]

​@@MohammedAgbadi bruh!!

[@Hakinator111]

Honestly? I just feel bad for the fake beginner artist. Clearly they are very skilled but don't receive much attention nor support which is common for intermediate artists. For the people who genuinely don't understand why this person didn't just show their real art from the beginning, the answer is they probably did (on a dif account) but felt disheartened as people usually only interact with crazy good professional artists or beginner ones, that's just how the internet works. Edit: I think some people are misunderstanding my point a little bit. In no way am I justifying what this person has done! It is clearly the wrong thing to do but I also don't think this behaviour warrants a bunch of hate, hopefully it'll be a learning point for the artist:)

[@nanabaku-g6o]

Yes, I think that so

[@cosmic_ghostbruh]

I feel bad for them too, but really pretending to be something you're not isn't cool- on top of that making other people feel bad while doing it. Someone else said it's like faking illnesses to get attention and I 100% agree. I think this person only thought about themselves when they decided to do this which is.. Sad, to say the least. But it's not like a terrible crime. But all for some attention is crazy on the real Edit: forgot to add but I'm not hating, just giving my opinion. Moral of the story, you're never going to get big and popular by pretending.

[@krsmanjovanovic8607]

​@@cosmic_ghostbruhwell you see, they were probably young and felt their effort deserves more attention, I get that, becoming mediocre at drawing (the "good enough for commisions" type) takes A LOT of effort and time, like years out of your life, even worse if you have no mentor to guide you, so I can see why would someone pull a stunt like this, but along the way to the mastery you just learn that you dont care about the audience, but rather for the craft itself and as your skill improves and gets to "actualy good" levels people would start paying a bit more attention

[@Fanimatic]

You know what? I'm gonna do exactly that because im sick of my old account posting for 3 years and got nothing. Might as well use any tactic to actually have a career on art

[@cosmic_ghostbruh]

@@krsmanjovanovic8607 I agree with you, 100%. I don't wish hate on them but I hope the situation helped them learn that pretending to be something you're not is seriously a dickhead move (and just to gain attention is crazy.) But I do think that this person is young, so I'm not going to hate on them. But like I said, it's just like faking illnesses for attention just because not having one gives you no views. You get me?

[@tsoewoe]

i dont know whats worse; the fact people do this or the fact that people have such a strong reaction to it instead of just ignoring it

[@こんとる-k3b]

We should, It's very discouraging for the REAL beginners. Imagine doing art for 2-3 month and gradually improving just to see someone doing the same progress for less than a week

[@mehlol9996]

​@@こんとる-k3bthis is a bad mentality to have, simply because there will always be someone better than you. This person may have lied about being a beginner, but there are actual beginners out there that do improve fast. If seeing a person do better/improve faster is enough to discourage artists, then said artists have some person issues that need to be addressed.

[@twotruckslyrics]

the block button exists

[@Joeydooodles]

@@こんとる-k3byeah but dose the person really deserve the harassment and hate thi

[@AeroVXB]

@@Joeydooodlesfr

[@Inkixi]

Im honestly just shocked that people actually believed that they where a beginner lol. It took me 2 YEARS to get where i am at making art and its still less quality then this persons actual art. it is nearly, no, straight up IMPOSSIBLE to improve that much in only a FEW DAYS.

[@Lazurikittie]

I mean, I do think it's possible to make that kind of improvement quickly because I did something similar. I never really continued drawing after my 6th one because it took so much work each time and it wore me down quickly but I also had people not believe at first that I was a total beginner because I had a similar jump between my very first drawing and my 2nd drawing, my first had pretty much no real shading/lighting, the lineart was awful and messy, the pose was nonexistent just a stiff board with no hands and arms glued to the side of her body, for the 2nd I basically spent 3 full days and nights redrawing parts of it over and over until I figured out how to make everything work to make a dynamic anatomically correct pose with decent lighting/shadows and good line weight, and none of my 6 drawings look like they were made by the same person or similar skill levels.

[@BlackRedBlueBerry]

The "starter" ones were slightly obvious, a bit too good to be from a "beginner"

[@Ichigitchyyayadada]

It is, I did that kind of improvement as a kid. That's just because I had A LOTTT of free time to practice and I bingwd like 500 tutorials overnight.

[@revolvingworld2676]

It depends on your talent and skill. Pewdipie managed to do it

[@x_angelkawaii_xU]

Yeahh, I started drawing ever since I knew how to pick up a pencil and it still looks like crap💀 I'm honestly offended as I also discovered Candie and looked up to her, like all the others💦

[@MasonTheFurryCat]

honestly this shouldn't be such big of a deal I as an intermediate artist, I also get frustrated because only crazy pro artists or beginner artists gets attention while us, in the middle of pro and beginners, seems to get not a lot of attention The 170 followers on twitter I got is what I worked for 2 years to get. and I get jealous when people joined for less than a month, yet they got 4K followers and they're just a shitposting account I don't blame her for doing that, I'd quit an account a LOT of times because I am like any other people on the social media, I want attention. but I dont get the attention I want no matter how much I draw I'm didn't resort to questionable methods to gain attention is because I'll be guilty of what I am doing, and I simply don't want to be an attention seeker

[@Superboy-jx3zv]

As an artist myself i agree very much, i recommend showing youre art to friends and family, if they like it you can get some good atention Also remember that youre art isn't bad, its just that 1 picture of the probaly milions posted each day is hard for people on the App to find, im sure a lot of people like youre art. Stay motivated

[@dolphinlover6438]

Yeah, I feel you in this. It’s frustrating to work tirelessly on all ur pieces only to get only a few likes each.. but gotta keep going iguess because you’ll never know when you’re gonna get lucky someday :”D👍

[@Acrimonious_Snake]

Bro, advertising works. Spend a little bit on paid promotion on Instagram or any other social network and you will get what you want. It costs less than buying yourself a new smartphone.

[@nmr7203]

I dunno, lying is pretty bad

[@lodokali]

been posting 150 art for 3 years on Instagram, only get 140 followers. I already quit posting art on social media, I just showed it to friends on discord, honestly a lot better feedbacks than Insta.

[@mimitheoctopus7471]

Although a part of me feels bad for the fake beginner artist, the other half of me feels that fake beginners who appears to ‘improve’ rapidly may be discouraging to beginner artists who feel they aren’t good at art at all for not improving at the rate candie does

[@ChisaiKo]

I feel for them, but no one is owed a social media following, no matter what level of skill they have. This clearly came from a place of a bruised ego, not a genuine experiment. What they did isn’t the end of the world, and I don’t think they should be bullied off the internet completely, but making people who supported what they thought was a beginner artist feel like they’d been duped or deceived is really shitty and probably going to bring more scrutiny on actual beginner artists who improve at a good pace now.

[@glasperle77]

It's not shitty. because it just proves what false snakes they all are and proves the person's point. you should ilke the ART and not pity someone not actually caring for the art but only for their status. it reminds me of the artists here who try to generate clout pushing "disabled artist does stream" and it turns out they have depression. wow. in that case all atists I know could use these terms. and people fall for it and pity them. not even caring for the art. that are fake people. similar to "i write you a comment if you write me a comment" trade without caring or really have intention to write because of the art. people who just pity someone because of their status or life situation, heritage, orientation or sickness in the art section don't deserve anything good. it's like false friends. so these people weren't harmed at all. they actually harmed with their behavior.

[@ac1d.fl0w3r9]

TikTok is going BONKERS these days what the hell😦

[@MohammedAgbadi]

alot is happening all at once

[@ILUVTBHK]

I deleted it. Too much stress

[@Yoshioqngel]

Insta is way more toxic. Tiktok wasn't always that toxic. Up until this year. But the tiktok art community ? Been toxic for 2-3 years now

[@Brain_animating]

Facebook is more toxic💀​@@Yoshioqngel

[@M1dN1ght_St_rrs]

Welcome to the corner of Tiktokk!!

[@Dark_BunnyXx]

Fake Beginner Artists? That’s kinda similar to people faking illnesses to get attention, Now obviously one is more harmful than the other but you can see how the two are similar

[@MohammedAgbadi]

😭😭😭😭the boy who cried wolf type beat fr

[@YamisRandom]

@@MohammedAgbadi😭

[@justaguy9978]

Horrible example but I see what you mean

[@NivKenny]

it also reminds me of people in the fitness industry, claiming natty when they are not

[@teleportingtoaster783]

Uhm... illness shouldn't be compared to art tbh, though I get what you mean. I think that this scenario shows how badly so many artists online are treated.

[@phryos6541]

Finally someone who's making this point!, I'm so glad for your take. Making this into such a big deal when the person who did this is a literal kid will never not be wild to me, they did a dumb thing as teens do, and they apologized.. why are we still talking about it? I've seen comments from the kid who did it on another video and from what I've seen all of this have been stressing them out a lot. I don't think it's a good idea to make it a big deal when they already knows what they did is wrong..

[@somestrangecreature9631]

Fr it's like if your kid intentionally threw a can of soda when they got mad and your partner scolded and made fun of them for days. Like the mess is cleaned up, the kid said they were sorry and probably won't be doing it again. Idk why we as a community can't just learn from it and move on

[@phryos6541]

​@@somestrangecreature9631 people just love to jump on trends for a couple of likes, TikTok has normalized not having empathy and compassion and just being overall inhumane. The brainrot is getting out of hand..

[@somestrangecreature9631]

@@phryos6541 Yeah pretty much. Not that beginner artists are to blame, but when people successfully harass them off the app it just reinforces the idea that bullying will silence the people who they don't like. So they just keep trying to do it to literally anyone. I stopped showing my art on there and eventually deleted the app because of it.

[@Yoyokuro]

Agreed

[@cubechan1938]

Wasn't it a social experiment?

[@jimjimson6208]

I can sort of understand why people would do this, because I feel like it's fair to say most artists aren't gonna pop off on social media just by the quality of their work; this is probably why people keep trying devious strategies like this one. The problem is that the hyper-sensationalisation of art like this just feeds the kind of environment that lead to the problem in the first place. The nature of social media is to demand this kind of grandstanding, but by folding under the pressure you are pretty much committing yourself and everyone else to an ever-escalating arms race of increasingly duplicitous and grandiose gestures like the one seen here/ PS Looking dripped as hell in this one bro 🥶

[@justmyownclips1253]

Honestly a pretty valid experiment at the cost of hurting your long run. I think this should moreso highlight the community they have over there but no ones gonna take those notes for awhile

[@Archangel591]

I honestly doubt they hurt their anything. Likely the opposite even in worst case scenario. They were sitting at 50 followers on their main account. If that level of art skill hadn't garnered them more followers, it's safe to say they were never realistically getting more without some serious social media marketing tricks. Even negative publicity like this is going to give them thousands of legitimate followers, as there will always be those who sympathize and those who simply don't care and want to see some cool art. If they continue posting art, in a few years there won't be anyone left who remembers or cares about the 2 week period where they faked being a beginner. Especially as they came clean and apologized. That's the sad reality of social media. If you're a complete unknown and nobody cares about you, then there's basically zero downside to negative exposure outside of mean comments and DM's. In terms of your social media presence, you will without a doubt see massive growth and retention, and actually get a chance to establish yourself.

[@S0REZ]

9:08 "Something doesn't sit right" 😭😭That's it I'm subscribing

[@jamsart_]

thanks for that little tip of picking a color from the already made color pallete of the drawing and then using that as a shadow and then adding multiply. You dont know how long ive been trying to figure that out because honestly i hate using purple as a shadow color

[@im_NOTsmile]

I remember being hated for giving beginner artist fair rating, and I gave advices and was not toxic(agressive). But even when I come up with constructive criticism, people still hated me, lol. Like what I had to do? Give stupid ass empty praises?

[@krispingle]

That's exactly what they want. Anything negative even if it's constructive will have people claim you're just being a hater for no reason.

[@olidaholi]

id prefer you be constructive than give soulless compliments.

[@im_NOTsmile]

@@olidaholi Same here

[@RoxanneSwithin]

​@@olidaholime too

[@KLEXO1007]

Trust me, I’m not a beginner I will admit, im an artist of about 10-11 years. I started socials not too long ago, and I post on ibis and yt. I can agree it’s extremely difficult to grow an account, people have grown cruel and bitter. Hate comments come more and more, and I am here to say gaining popularity is now just of sheer luck. There’s so many amazing artists trying to start their social journey, old and new. We should be looking to support every one of them. I personally try to find underrated artists bc you can just get a more personal experience with them. We need to start supporting our future artists.

[@Why_who_where]

best chance you get at recognition for your art is fucking reddit LMAOO

[@KLEXO1007]

@@Why_who_where literally bro

[@OyinbobolaFaboyode]

Drama seems to never end on TikTok

[@OUhhuh-t8q]

We need a timeline

[@bloodnessx]

They do anything for clout🎵, they do anything for clout🎵

[@NazionalistAktion]

Unlimited popcorn is needed

[@гксгк]

tiktok IS the drama!

[@amanitaslastresort]

I never expected this from the project sekai fandom.

[@teeth_of_a_rat]

fr, vocaloid and project sekai did NOT need to get brought into this 😭

[@snowhillary]

i was like emu? akito?

[@amanitaslastresort]

@@snowhillary same, saw this on my recommended and my jaw dropped

[@superstarri_04]

honestly same even though I should've

[@pawkyuns]

i know . i was like "DOGKITO???"

[@PS_ItsTheCrockpot]

Artists do go through what i call an art growth spirt, however this takes at least 2 years to reach and it's a lot more gradual then this. Beginner Artists just keep drawing and you eventually will get your artistic growth spirt and so much will fall into place. And don't worry if its takes awhile to reach, i was a late bloomer with my art!

[@gentlescrubswoosh]

People apparently do this because beginner artists tend to attract more attention

[@kashsy-jc7624]

yea... kinda sad to see other TRUTHFUL and beginning artist showing off there works and seeing her artworks and improvement she got. Tbh, it made me think that arts isnt really for untalented people like me, its for talented people like her.

[@somestrangecreature9631]

​@@kashsy-jc7624 not to be one of those annoying "erm.. actually" people who give unsolicited advice, but art isn't a talent most of the time, it's a skill. Yeah, there probably are a lot of artists with innate creativity and ability to put what's in their mind on paper, but most good artists on the internet had to learn to get their skill level. I'd reccomend to keep drawing. Obviously don't force it otherwise you probably won't improve much, but if you practice for even just 20 minutes a day you can improve pretty quickly. I'd also reccomend realistic goal setting. For me personally I always set goals way above my skill level when I was a beginner and it made art frustrating. To the point where I stopped enjoying it for months.

[@Ichigitchyyayadada]

​@@somestrangecreature9631 I was gonna say

[@tell-me-a-story-]

But it’s usually mean attention.

[@louc.6735]

@@tell-me-a-story- yeah like i've never seen a beginner artist that got significant attention for positive reasons.

[@tantotheraider2425]

I believe this points out another problem too, on their complaint that their OG art did not get enough attention. putting their actions aside, which I am NOT supporting, it is honestly sad how crappy social media treats artists. I mean just think about it. Sure there are SOME popular artists but what gets the most attention is brainrot, ragebait or bait in general, toxic content, etc. the algorithm promotes bad content so bad content is what this creator stumbled to to get attention. This is on all social media btw.

[@wyld_gurl1524]

It feel not that deep to me. People say it made real beginner artists feel jealous or bad but when I was a beginner artist I already felt that way with other professionals around me. It’s not that deep, and the faker apologized profusely about it so I don’t get why people are still mad?

[@UnnamedIsDumb]

honestly the fact that someone had to pretend to be a beginner just to get attention is sad. Yes its good to support beginners and watching them improve feels great but finding and supporting underrated artists is important too

[@amalare]

It's so sad to think talented artist who don't get recognition had to fake being a beginner artist/or their age just to get attention proves how social media detoriated people :(( it wasn't like this back then

[@Trecherousbeast]

This whole situation just makes me sad. It is very annoying to spend so much time on your art and not get any engagement. A lot of people use attention seeking as an insult, but if you're an artist on social media, then, of course, you would be seeking attention. That's how it works. No one posts art on the internet just because. They do it to have other people see it. It's sad that they had to go so far to get engagement. I'm not mad at them. I'm mad at how desperate it's gotten to get noticed on the internet as an artist.

[@n8pls543]

We have a lot of social friction as well, lately, over how information reaches far enough that anyone competitive is now competing with... what was it, 8 billion people? While you might have been the best artist you know in your area, or nearly the best but aspiring to be the best, if you suddenly add every other great artist in the world, you suddenly find yourself small and insignificant, which can make some people very... manipulative.

[@cubechan1938]

Exactly, like isn't attention kind of the point of sharing your art... anywhere? You'd kind of _have_ to, like even in gallerias and shit

[@NauticUrchin]

This kinda shit is why I stay away from social media now. My relationship with my art has become so much healthier, since numbers weren't a factor anymore. It's sad, that some artists feel like they have to lie to make their art seem worthwhile, when it already is, no matter how many eyes see it.

[@diegogomez7350]

But there's people like me who wants to make money with art and, in order to do it, I need more likes and followers. Sucks more to be an intermidiate artist rather than being a beginner as I can see.

[@Dugong-cb7lw]

Tbh I feel like quitting art from the amount of shit that happens

[@MohammedAgbadi]

no please dont!!!

[@Hannah-w1p]

Pls dont give up!!! If you aren’t progressing for now maybe experiment on things you haven’t drawn before!

[@Mazzy_Arts]

Don't quit please, don't give up!

[@Superboy-jx3zv]

I also had that though, ill give you a hint, show youre art to the peoole that actuly matter in youre life, family and friends where you can acutly get attention , never give up, maybe just take a break tho, drawing is exhausting just like every hobby or creative job.

[@AeroVXB]

99 percent of artist quit before hitting it big (I pulled that out of ass)

[@TheBoEoSoT]

In gaming word, this action is called "Smurf" When you're really good at a game but just want to act like you're a newbie, then beat the real newbie for fun or get attention. Yes, it's mostly just for fun.

[@maccheroncini]

nahhhhhhhhhh it took me 4 years of constant practice and consistency to get where i am seeing people faking their progress is crazy

[@ReeZea]

I’m glad this is being talked about at all. Cause it always gave me really weird vibes, it never interested me in the slightest. I feel it sets a bad example, too. It makes artists look super petty. Like, “ooo but see, I’m actually super good, I totally had you fooled!” I dunno what’s to gain from it besides wanting attention and validation. It’s like pretending you’re helpless when you’re actually fully capable. Obviously it’s not the worst thing an artist can do, but it’s still super weird.

[@worldofutchasta]

EMU AND AKITO ON THE THUMBNAIL WAS A JUMPSCARE AAAAA

[@amanitaslastresort]

I know!! 😭 me too

[@empurple.25]

I CLICKED BECAUSE EMU😭

[@Artiimoo]

when you decide to share art on social media, you have to do so with the understanding that your account is not likely to blow up and be "big". it has taken those larger accounts a lot of time and a lot of dedication to get where they are, it doesn't just happen overnight. for every medium to big account you have 50 small ones who go under the radar, found by chance. it sucks, it really does, but that's just what happens in the state of the community right now. you have to learn to be content just sharing to share. if you constantly post in hopes of being that big artist you admire, you're always going to feel unfulfilled and angry when it doesn't happen. learning to be content with your account where it is at any time is a HUGE part of being on social media that a lot of people ignore because they see shiny accounts "making it" and focus too much on the numbers. if you take off, that's absolutely amazing and i hope your account grows. please, though, don't do what candie did. do i think she should be chased off the web? no. does she need a timeout to reflect on her actions? absolutely. i hope she can come back and be an artist with integrity and be content sharing with the people who want to see her work, and maybe it'll grow from there. these bait accounts ain't it, and it's no surprised as many people were as mad as they were. this wasn't the right way to go about this at all. i hope this served as a lesson for candie. and she should call it what it is, which was a ruse to garner attention to be "big", not a social experiment. i hope she realizes how it wasn't worth garnering the attention she got in this manner. it's going to follow her for a very long time, so she's got work to do if she decides to come back.

[@jorandxd]

is easy the why behind of this. When you start drawing and uploading the ugly phase of learning everyone suport you, giving you words of encouragement and motivation to keep working. Then when you reach a dead sea or plato, when you are not good enogh to be a pro but not a complete beginer no one comments your art. At the end, the beginer artist improves and no need to be more suport. I feel like that sometimes.

[@lynnzCorner]

Thankyou for talking more on this subject. This just shows how bad social media has deteriorated

[@lynnzCorner]

@@MisaMisaIsOnTop wdym I wasn’t talking about her lying for attention I meant that she used social media’s attention thereby social media has detiorated Mohammed said it himself in the comment

[@lynnzCorner]

@@MisaMisaIsOnTop I’m sorry I was just explaining my pov calms

[@MisaMisaIsOnTop]

@@lynnzCorner Ykw no I’m sorry idk why I’m so pissy today

[@lynnzCorner]

@@MisaMisaIsOnTop it’s fine no biggie 😊

[@MaryamMohammed-z7p]

I personally hated that trend. Thanks for speaking up about it.

[@dialcantsleep]

I haven’t heard of this yet, what the freak tiktok 😔

[@MohammedAgbadi]

😭😭😭😭😭

[@ana.wordswordswords]

only in the prosekai community😭😭😭

[@milkis..x]

as a prosekai fan, there are normal people in the fandom… i think

[@RabbitBeanieOSC]

​@@milkis..xits hard to find normal pjsk players due to um.. the _toxic_ shippers.

[@yying_yangg]

the prosekai fandom genuinely has a horrible reputation at least on tiktok 😭

[@basywasy]

@@yying_yangghonestly everything has a bad rep on tiktok :/

[@claptivity]

​@@milkis..xi know that guy, hes me

[@ohahmystical2976]

It’s really sad that they had to pretend to be a beginner for actual traction. Main reason I dropped tiktok, anyone stuck in the middle will be left behind unless you have found yourself in drama. It’s dumb and it’s really sad

[@GuretoDaze]

Even if they were faking, some ppl was still shitting on the fake beginner art bro 😭 (sorry if my wording is bad)

[@cleoocatraadraws7804]

Ykw even tho what they did was kinda crappy art shoved to the side by the algorithm is genuinely so annoying and demoralizing and they probably have a decent amount of veiws now so good for them

[@mjs-r1y]

It’s sad how real beginners now are being accused of being like Candie. “It’s so obvious” blah blah blah type of comments like that

[@TeleviseGuy]

I have a real story: I followed a then-hobbyist furry artist on Twitter. He didn't have a lot of skills or followers, but his characters looked nice. After about a year or two, in the month of October 2020, his art skills started to improve. At first, the improvements seemed to be nice and gradual and made sense. He was starting to learn more advanced skills and features in his digital software, but his style was still very similar. But then, something strange happened. Over the course of 4 weeks, every next piece he made, his skill jumped to a whole new level, up until it was indistinguishable from professional art from an artist who trained for years. It blew my mind. It only took four weeks for him to learn all of the anatomy, gesture, form, perspective, backgrounds, proportions, shading, color theory, etc. and with hindsight, I think he was learning and practicing these things long before his sudden improvement, even if only traditionally without showing any of that to the public. He could just actually have learned and improved that fast, but it takes insane talent and dedication to improve that fast, and I dont know how that's possible. Now, he is a famous NSFW artist with tens of thousands of followers. Did he fake his improvement? I don't know. But did this affect me mentally? Yes. It made me believe in some artists having a better brain or more talent, and was one of the things that made me stop using Twitter regularly due to the way it's built.

[@oskie5930]

I’m interested in this artist and would love to see him! What’s the name?

[@Ichigitchyyayadada]

It can also be how fast you learn things

[@Spook-y]

@@Ichigitchyyayadada it can be crazy how much you can learn in just a few weeks. i had art block so i didnt draw for the entire season of spring and only watched art videos or studied pictures of things/people without actually drawing. and when i started drawing again last month my skills suddenly jumped many levels. i guess im a visual learner since when i went back to drawing it felt like my hand go just move on its own when all ive been doing the past few months before was watching peoples speedpaints and art processes. a change in the way you work really helps.

[@SpySxlar]

i was worried about the replies but yeah its good so far. also adults can do adult things kids.

[@Phuajunwei]

What's their name? I would like to check their art.

[@SpringToasterCat]

Why can’t the TikTok art community have a normal event for once- 💀

[@Sleepypotato-bsd]

I was not ready for bsd characters to be at the start😭

[@Yoisaki_canada]

Fr, im also pissed they brought pjsk and vocaliod into this 😭😭

[@y0w0suke-yosk-87]

The fact that the "new art" is literally just. Retracing of the card's in project sekai 😭😭😭😭 being in the fandom its very obvious that they just traced the art of official cards 😭

[@DeepikaSonwani-b6j]

And that can be seen as she's still in the beginning stage, hence the tracing cause she doesn't know how to draw on her own. Ngl but the 'new art'is not at intermediate or pro level. hence a beginner, just not the absolute one.

[@Gykfrkgfdbyun]

“Social experiment” is such a lazy and obvious cop out for clout chasing

[@backupforthevideos3861]

yeah, the fake beginner and fake age thing has been a thing for a long time. "Hey guys, look at this unbelievable high-level artwork. I'm 12 BTW" and boom, let the [ like/share/comment/engagement ] farming began

[@ThisPersonIsFine]

2:22 NAH WHY DOES THAT LOOK LIKE MY 2022 ART STYLE WITH THE POINTY AHH CHIN

[@SavvyCD1]

I actually would’ve believed this. When I was younger, like elementary-early middle school age, I was drawing constantly. In just one drawing I would massively improve and my mom was more and more impressed with each drawing. I’m still not the best with anatomy, but I can draw from reference like nobody’s business and without a reference I’m not half bad. I don’t know if i got that good in just a week, but maybe a month to go from this person’s beginner level to their current level (if I drew every day). My drawings before looked really similar to these slightly improved ones.

[@BumblingArtist]

Ngl, I watch Mohammed's videos 50% for the content and 50% just to see his handsome face

[@MohammedAgbadi]

W reasons

[@hannatheoneandonly]

Based

[@Scarleto]

NGL if I was a kid in the time of tiktok with those skills I could see myself doing something similar lmao I'm glad that I grew up when oekaki board communities existed because they (at least the ones I was on) really rallied around each other so you didn't necessarily need to do something like this for your work to get attention, crit, etc. :( I hope Candie can overcome this bump and keep up the beautiful work but I totally understand needing a break from toxic online environments too. Good luck Candie! Thanks for the video

[@beamer8907]

why cant ppl just stop using Tiktok. like is it really that hard? christ...

[@ameena8109]

huh

[@schemesthefox1255]

It is. I mean, how hard would it be to quit KZbin? That’s your answer.

[@Sssssshinshi]

How hard would it be to stop using all of your social media?

[@beamer8907]

@@schemesthefox1255 probably hard since i only use youtube, but since you came with That comment you probably use both.

[@pieceofshoot]

@@Sssssshinshi easy. i deleted everything except for youtube

[@kaiaTsune]

I've been trying to grow my art following on social media for MONTHS and barely grew (5-30 followers each) meanwhile these fake beginner artists blow up seemingly so easily is so disheartening

[@Yuiswax]

I can't understand why they choose to act and get attention instead of just posting pictures and getting the attention they deserve..

[@MohammedAgbadi]

they said they were posting on their old account but it stopped getting attention and wasn't growing so they had to comeup with a bright idea

[@Yuiswax]

@@MohammedAgbadi What a ''bright'' idea 😮‍💨

[@what8948]

i dont support their actions whatsoever but their normal art wouldnt have a big chance at getting attention i saw so many artists stop at 3 k max and thats it

[@Yuiswax]

@@what8948 that's sad too :'( i wish every artist got the attention they deserved

[@Superboy-jx3zv]

I belive its tiktoks fault, posting can either give ypu like 2mil views or 1k just because the algorithm said so, its basicly a lottery just for views

[@sugawskull]

Honestly, I feel like this artist pretty much proved you can't become a skilled artist overnight. It takes lots of practice, time, and patience. It's a little messed up that they did it for attention BUT they came clean and owned up for their mistake.

[@zcbz]

Seeing this in the pjsekai ( the game where the characters are from ) comunity is sad-

[@Fyodors_crusty_left_toenail]

The way the whole intro was bsd💀

[@MohammedAgbadi]

😭😭😭

[@Fyodors_crusty_left_toenail]

@@MohammedAgbadi OMG I ACTUALLY RESPONDED ILYSM UR THE GREATEST KZbinR I RLLY LIKE UR CONTENT ANE THINK UR AMAZING!!!! KEEP IT UP:DDD😻😻😻

[@ilovedoomedyaoi]

WE LOVE KYOUKA IZUMI 🫶🫶

[@Fyodors_crusty_left_toenail]

@@ilovedoomedyaoi YES WEE DOOO AND ATSUSHI!!!!😝😝

[@ichangemyuserwaytoomuch]

@@Fyodors_crusty_left_toenailI SAW KYOKA BUT I DIDNT SEE ATSUSHI 😭😭 (prob cuz I looked away from the screen lol)

[@pixelverse48]

Artists are now just fame-hungry by faking that they are beginners just like people faking illness cause they are attention seekers. This is not good…

[@Aoi-12239]

Honestly i completely understand why they would do this, working for hours and putting a lot of effort on a piece just for it to get zero attention is exhausting and im talking from experience, it can be very frustrating to see literal beginners improving so fast and gaining the recognition some of us could only dream about

[@jojo22147]

the art community cannot catch a break we are in the depths of despair rn with ai and tiktok 😭😭😭😭

[@cossackfalco]

i still have art that looks like that but its stubby looking dbz characters from like 15 years ago on yellowed aged paper

[@MohammedAgbadi]

wow i can smell the paper from all the way over here!

[@WalaszekVerse]

3:25 She was always two steps ahead 😭😭😭

[@Only-KeiKo]

Two steps ahead. I am always two steps ahead.

[@milkis..x]

I cant see the end of the horizon.. EMU OTORI AND AKITO SHIONOME??

[@LizzyWiz]

Tbh they're mostly the reason I click on the vid

[@VileStinkyGamer]

The lighting and environment of your background is immaculate 😌 very calming

[@Mazzy_Arts]

Crazy how TikTok became the app for brainrot and nonsense, like in 2020 when I first heard of the app it was just people doing dances, memes and stuff, it wasn't this way, how did we go from dancing, challenges, memes shortform content to now with all this stuff? What started the change? I'm so confused.

[@n8pls543]

Because it isn't the platform, but the people. As you add more people, you end up with people who feel the need to be louder, more manipulative, etc, for attention -- which is why I'm not surprised to see fake beginners on TikTok, because there are also fake beginners on KZbin. Then this only gets worse if there is money to be made, because then people will actively be competing to be the bigger, more terrible person.

[@Mazzy_Arts]

​@@n8pls543oh okay...

[@RichardCox0]

I want to thank you for mentioning the environment color on a multiply layer for shadow. It's so much better than what I was doing

[@marshmallowbiscuit4553]

I've been drawing in some way shape or form for 15 years and posting art online for roughly 7. Only recently have I reached 1000 followers on tumblr, which for me was a crazy feat. I get the feeling of being ignored when you spend countless time on a project, but taking away spotlight from actual beginner artists by claiming yourself as a beginner, even as a social experiment, just isn't the way to go.

[@kyuki.5345]

I honestly was furious with those who pretended to be a beginner artists. Yes, they got the attention they wanted, but what about us who doesn't do the meta? What about the other beginner artists feeling? When they see the drastic improvement for a week, beginner artists will probably start questioning themselves-and we who support them feel betrayed. It's made me sad and angry :(

[@bctdakokomi]

pjsk fandom is an asylum

[@Khtprince]

Fr😔

[@takouyaki]

tgis is real i fear

[@worldofutchasta]

real!!

[@zcbz]

Instead of mafuyu going there we are o7

[@IroWithinStars]

okay but i personnally never expected better. The fandom is full of teens so reasonable and mature behavior is a rarity. Like this is an average young audience fandom experience. We have seen worst lmao

[@_V.01d_]

As bad as it is for an artist to not get recognized, their actions did harm and that out weighs their intention. I hope they are okay and learned, but they shouldnt have done that :/

[@glasperle77]

they actions didn't harm at all. only if you live in a glass bubble. then you are not fit to be in the art section

[@_V.01d_]

@@glasperle77 it can harm beginners artist and how people from the outside look in. It can make beginners artist feel bad/hurt because an artist they look up to who is supposedly a beginners, was actually an artist who's been doing it for a while. And for outsiders, it makes the art community look like frauds gullible people. Creatives are already having a hard time being considered credible if it's not a fine art, so this isn't the best. It did no physical harm, but it still did harm. Although it is not major and will be forgotten in less than a weekend, it would have been better without it. If you feel that way, I think you should watch the video again or take some time to understand the ethics when it comes to art and artists.

[@Ko.tsukii]

​@@_V.01d_ It doesn't just harm the ones who looked up to the artist but the artist themselves too.

[@SourxTxothy]

They apologized already btw!! And i think they left the account too

[@AdaliaReynaa]

That lowkey sounds really fun to do tho its just art i dont rlly think its a big deal tbh

[@AdaliaReynaa]

IN NO DISRESPECT TO BEGINNERS THO! IT JUST SEEMS LIKE A FUNNY TROLL TO DO

[@OccasionallyAPrincess]

‘Please do not attack me as I am sensitive’ LMAO why is this kinda iconic though?

[@pingpong5877]

Even artists are smurfing.

[@Strawberry_Animates]

I love your videos, and just seeing the Bungo stray dogs backgrounds in the beginning rlly made my day lolll 😭

[@nicknick_nick]

Social experiment people are so odd, like boom what you thought would happen happened.

[@BloodyPsychicX]

As a small artist I get them tbhhhhh bc I know this is bad to do that and hurts beginners but Social Media became so hard to get good amount of attention for so many hours you have put your work into and it's very terrible it's like fighting for survival, I have been drawing for plenty of years but yet I am not as popular as others, and I am not the only small artist who experiences this

[@Duc_lovebirdsXD]

… there’s fake beginner artists?

[@AMountainousAdventurer]

I really don't know why this is a thing

[@ethanxillasaurus2572]

Ye there are a bunch of videos of pranks like this

[@MohammedAgbadi]

😭😭😭bruuuuhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

[@ethanxillasaurus2572]

@@MohammedAgbadi fr

[@theotv5522]

The same issue like this has been an on-going thing in the miniature painting community for decades now. You'll see posts like "My first/second attempt at painting X" and they show you a mini that's clearly from someone who has been in the hobby for at least 5-6 months, considering all the advanced techniques they've used.

[@Pro_Idiot143]

I don’t really know how to feel about this situation because in (almost) all the art (so like all the ones where people were baffled) they’re coping project sekai cards and there’s nothing wrong with that I’m just saying I did that once and it was SIGNIFICANTLY better than all my other art I tried to do without a reference so it kinda makes sense to me that someone could potentially improve that much so quickly😭😭😭

[@iceprism367]

Honestly, some of these look like the difference between me looking at a drawn reference/not looking at any reference(or just doodling) back when I was 14. Even the better art doesn't seem like they're an anatomy master.

[@DeepikaSonwani-b6j]

@@iceprism367 That's what i was thinking , it's not a bad drawing, but absolutely not at a level everyone's hyping it to be.

[@espeonzeld4]

9:01 I’ve been drawing for 11 years now, improving has been slow and my art isn’t even nearly where I’d want it to be. why do people do this smh 🤦

[@romeiibubble870]

18:00 No, This entire situation was not a misunderstanding. They did this entirely for attention all because their main art account wasn't getting enough likes. You cannot tell me they didn't plan this when they blatantly lied to their audience for several days and with false hopes that they can improve that quickly too. They lied about, got caught, and now they're suffering the consequences. Plain and simple.

[@nick-müsc]

And? Everything is done for attention, deal with it

[@kanto667]

Although this is sad, I personally think it is possible to see this kind of improvement and regression. In my college days I had this exact thing happen after watching literally one concept cookie video. It was insane and I thought a spirit had entered my body! Sometimes you just find that guy that makes it click so good and I live for it

[@orsich22]

it's hard to stand out nowadays without pulling some insane gimmick

[@alejanarrentanz698]

this video is kind of a blessing right now. I struggle so hard to getting better in drawing. For Years i could not find a struktured way to learn and right now i study figure drawing. I started over by 0 (maybe 0,5). I feel like i make no progress, but hearing this : " Its not possible to improve over couple of days" -man this make me so calm right now.

[@senink]

It is fascinating in theory but the execution and reason is eh. I’d love to see a popular KZbinr either pretend or actually start their art journey posting it on multiple different media platforms to test which is best for anyone to grow as an artist. Positivite criticism Encouragement Sharing tips and tricks Should all be attributes in all art community sections. A safe place to grow is what beginners need most and even non beginners like me need that to cause all artists are still growing and honing their craft.

[@boogieslove]

ngl i never believed them from the beginning, it was just crazy how much they improved.

[@wikipopsbonkersbap]

better than "I'm 3 years old and this is my drawing"

[@sillystringeater]

This has the vibes of when on old KZbin people would do heinous pranks against the general public and then go "it's a social experiment!!!" As an excuse

[@Yoisaki_canada]

Ngl I hate to be that person, miku and teto aren't anime characters like you said at 4:10 😭😭

[@shellder_gaming]

yeah they are like vocaloid i think?

[@Morrislover.they.xem.]

@@shellder_gamingMiku is a vocaloid and Teto is both an Utah and a Synth v voice bank.

[@Atomnumber]

Technically, it is now an anj e, proseka has an anime coming soon

[@madelineyoung9280]

They’re still in an anime style lol

[@azulina4886]

the pjsk movie caused controversy because of misinformation by saying that "Hatsune Miku is going to get a movie"

[@ritzlix]

Genuinely, I don’t get why it’s that deep. It’s just a sad situation, and I hope they get the attention they deserve after this.

[@buboosenchan]

This is an amazing topic!!! Great video ❤❤❤

[@iloveshoujorei]

The thumbnail scared me, pls don’t let pjsk be know for this

[@sphis1327]

best username ever

[@milkis..x]

WERE COOKED…. AND THE PRICKLYCACTUS DRAMA TOO??

[@tenneluna6948]

dw it's already known for ruining vocaloid

[@tntcatwas]

I like your calm energy even if these is a tornado passing by

[@spikeyourfellowfurry]

YAY why be fake when u can be real

[@MohammedAgbadi]

like what's the point of faking it...just do your thing and people will find you

[@spikeyourfellowfurry]

@@MohammedAgbadi Exactly what Im doing rn. You can't make shortcuts to success

[@siphona_will_eat_you]

Because you don’t get shit being genuine online

[@siphona_will_eat_you]

Because you don’t get shit being genuine online

[@shiguriyamamo6730]

Because alot of really good artists still get completely ignored