Why the BMW R1250RT is better than a GS or GS Adventure

[@Phil-pw7ko]

I've spent over 45 years in motorcycle dealerships / industry, have 1st hand experience riding 90% of different manufacturers motorcycles up to 2021, these are an excellent choice for long distance touring, or mid level sport riding, throughout the years there have been many different benchmark models from various manufacturers, these current RT's are the culmination of many years of development resulting in an excptional performing motorcycle

[@TheJedRides]

Well said!

[@MotociclistaDellaDomenica]

Ciao amico, la RT può affrontare strade sterrate non impegnative?

[@benkelly2190]

@@MotociclistaDellaDomenicaI rode this bike over an, unplanned dirt road for around 3 miles. This bike handled it easily enough. It was very uneven but dry. Might have been different if I was wet, muddy.

[@Michael-Masi-911]

Aren't these made in Thailand?

[@rp8069]

​@@Michael-Masi-911Mai chai krub!

[@TimRHillard]

I've had three RTs. Fantastic bikes, all bought used. The first one, the first ride, I went to a Starbucks in Denton TX. I ended up in Sturgis🤔. I just kinda kept going😎. It wasn't even bike week, I just have a few roads there I wanted to ride this bike on.

[@oicu81too]

Best comment for a bike ever! Greetings from Firewheel.

[@suzyamerica4679]

Perfect comment. One came my way (sale through a friend), an oldie 1100 with lots of miles (90K), needs a little work, but seems to be well cared for otherwise. The fit was a little painfully short (my legs are long) but otherwise I loved it for the power and the protection from the wind. Just wondering how bad it could turn into down the road with expensive parts.

[@charlesbradley2943]

Traded my 2014 for my current 2019 R1250GSA. I do still miss the RT. Now looking at a 2024 RT (police white). Difficult to match the comfort & handling of the RT. Life is short. Ride what you like.

[@masterspin7796]

King of the Freeway...So far, I have made 5 Highway road trips to play Table Tennis and delivering a finished cylinder head porting job two of them in the rain. It likes cruzing around 95-97 m.p.h. and owning a white one is like parting the red sea they think im a cop...I got about 2000 miles on it all cold air riding...

[@TheJedRides]

Right on. I always wondered whether the white RT makes 'em slow down or get out of the way!

[@masterspin7796]

@@TheJedRides Both...change there minds about changing lanes too I get cut off less often on this bike people pull back into their lane...lol!

[@TheJedRides]

@@masterspin7796 that’s awesome!

[@masterspin7796]

Sometimes I'm worried about looking like a cop...lol!@beemrdon52

[@johnluhmann1581]

Excellent presentation

[@konacyclist]

One thing you failed to mention is the ESA. It is easy to overlook because it works seamlessly without requiring intervention on the part of the rider. I frequently ride two up with full luggage including top case when touring. This calls for a dramatically different suspension setting than one rider with empty cases. On my previous bike, a 2012 GS with aftermarket suspension (TFX), it was a real pain changing the preload (30 turns!) when I went from just me on the bike and my full load touring set up. I no longer have to concern myself with this. This was a game changer for me.

[@rmccalli4728]

After owning a 2000 GS for a few years and rarely, if ever, taking it off road I would certainly opt for the RT in my next bike. The sound of that engine brought back some great memories. Thanks for the great overview and analysis, it was nice to take a ride with you during the video.

[@TheJedRides]

Thanks for the compliment!

[@ScotchNWry]

Jed makes the point. I’ve had two RTs now and the way the thing handles defies physics. You point and it goes, it gets you out of trouble with no fuss. The only issue having one of these is you get on anything else and it feels primitive. Test drive one, you’ll be shaking your head in disbelief when you get off. It’s other worldly, it really is.

[@TheJedRides]

Thanks John. Though your comment reads like hyperbole, it's all true! Cheers!

[@stevecade857]

It's not that the bike defies physics it's that people's perception of the bikes physics is wrong. It may have a big protective fairing but the weight is all low down.

[@JeffMax]

Had a test drive last week and it was quite disappointing to be honest. Handled like a big boat and the suspension in ‘road’ mode was way to soft and in ‘dynamic’ to harsh. Had loads of wind buffeting and couldn’t set the windscreen in a acceptable setup. Drove for a hour and switched to a GS Adventure right after and it was a day and night difference. All the issues I had with the RT vanished. No buffeting, great suspension, handled like a naked bike.

[@adammfharris]

@@JeffMaxSaid no one ever.

[@Michael-Masi-911]

@@adammfharris I rang my local dealer and he told my the RT he wanted to sell me was assembled in Thailand, so I was disappointed also.

[@rolandcarter4381]

Had a 1200 RT. Great but felt the vibration. Moved up to the K1600. Great bike. Did an Iron butt ride on it. Sold it because of the expense. Looking at the 1250 RT with all the changes. Looks like it would be more fun. I'm 76 yo 74 inches tall and 250 pounds. Inseam of 34. Best to you all.

[@TheJedRides]

Roland, thanks for sharing your thoughts/experience. I will say this: as much praise as I give the RT, there is still some vibration at the bars. It’s never been enough to bother me, but the buzz is there and is more noticeable at highway speed.

[@livingthedreambuildingthedream]

This is probably the best review of the r1250rt I’ve seen thank you really enjoyed it and ride safe from 🇬🇧.

[@TheJedRides]

Thanks for the kind words. The review of the RT writes itself. It’s an incredibly capable bike.

[@livingthedreambuildingthedream]

@@TheJedRides I was looking at buying the r1200rt but after your review I will be buying one as the r1250rt is out of my budget.

[@TheJedRides]

@@livingthedreambuildingthedream (Very) slightly different torque curve, but equally capable bike!

[@livingthedreambuildingthedream]

@@TheJedRides I appreciate that mate thank you.

[@jackmccourt6180]

My GSA with a small spoiler on the windshield protects me pretty well from the wind. I sit in a nice bubble of calm with the wind just skimming the top of my helmet, enough to provide some air and not cause buffeting. I also changed the seats out as mines came with the rally seat and I have done thousand mile days in that thing without even a hint of a sore bottom! A point on handling is that changing tyres to road 6's transformed how it felt. I don't know how it compares, but that could certainly be a big factor. I haven't tried an RT, but so far the GS is absolutely the best bike I have ever ridden. Some of the tech from the RT though would be nice. Specifically the adaptive cruise control, larger screen and central locking.... But I really can't complain... I won my GSA in a raffle!

[@TheJedRides]

Jack, I think it goes without saying that a free GSA beats pretty much any bike on the road! That's awesome.

[@hanscaspersz4900]

Just wondering what all of us riders did before TFT nav screens existed. Were there 1000s of lost riders wandering the desert?

[@TheJedRides]

Nah, but we had to stop to look at our maps every now and then! 👍🏼

[@sirstomper]

@@TheJedRides A tank bag with a waterproof map holder was a must!

[@barneyvelarde6648]

New to your channel and totally agree, been riding cross country trips on a 1200GSA for the past 8 years and probably only rode off rode 2% of the time. It was time to upgrade and decided on the 2022 r1250rt. It’s quickly become my favorite bikes I’ve ever owned. When in the dealer and I was already negotiating for the RT, I was glancing at the new GSA’s and second guessing my decision. After riding my new RT, I’m glad I decided on the RT. .

[@TheJedRides]

That's awesome, Barney! Congrats on the RT.

[@alierdal2722]

It's a nice video, congratulations Jed. What I'm wondering is what is the triangular piece on the TFT screen and what does it do? Most RTs don't either!

[@TheJedRides]

Thanks for the compliment. The triangle is the antenna for Sirius XM radio.

[@alierdal2722]

🙏

[@troppo4872]

I have owned an RT and 2xGS. Everything you say is true...I never should have sold my RT. Great bike.

[@TheJedRides]

Thanks for the feedback. Hope you’re riding something else you like at least?

[@troppo4872]

@@TheJedRides yes..KTM Super Adventure S. Great bike.

[@TheJedRides]

@@troppo4872 Oh, wow, that IS a great bike!

[@Paughco]

OK, I 'scribed. I just got a 2022 R1250RS. Traded in my trusty ol' 2016 S1000XR with 52,000 miles on it. Man, I am totally digging it! Happy trails, man.

[@r12rtpilot]

Just bought a 2019 RT today. Cannot wait to bring her home! I started riding BMW R models in 1998. Since then it's been an 1100 RT, an 1150RT, a 1200RT in 2005 and 2012. Throw in a couple of K sport tourers and three GSAs. I guess you could say I'm a fan of R bikes.

[@TheJedRides]

You're more than a fan -- you're a super fan at this point! LOL. Congrats on the new RT. Have fun!!!

[@Quagmire88]

I have been shopping the BMWs and I think I'm going for a late 2022 or an early 2023 R1250GSA. We currently ride a 2017 Versys1000LT and I find that the brakes and suspension is greatly lacking for anything more than a couple hours 2up riding. The wife and I ride 2up 99% of the time and the size and weight capacity of the GSA makes more sense for us. Our day-rides are normally 8-12hr days so the extra comfort and greater suspension configurations is key. Another thing, is that I'm a taller guy (6'3" 200lbs) with long legs, the RT felt a little cramped to me. Great video, lots of helpful info!👍

[@feloniousmonk3049]

Get a custom seat made up by Russell Day Long and ask them to make it for you in tall configuration. You may have more buffeting of the helmet, but your legs will bother you less. I stop on my RT every 60 -75 to 90 minutes, get off, walk around, rub my butt to relieve hotspots on the stock seat, and rehydrate. 6'5" and 280# on a 2022 RT.... zero regrets, the bike just does everything I need it to do. Get some fat aftermarket slip-on foam grips for it, if you have big hands.

[@joeybobbie1]

Hi, New Subscriber. I wouldn’t say it’s better than the GS, but rather it’s the Bike that fits you and your Riding Style the best. There’s no way I would take a RT down gravel Roads or Trails for instance. I wouldn’t really like looking down at the Mirrors on the RT also. The best Bike is the Bike each individual finds that fits all their needs perfectly. Your RT is your favorite, and my GS is my favorite. I wouldn’t say mine is better than yours, mine is just the perfect Bike for me. I love the way it looks, handles, the Engine, ability to go off Road, it’s my perfect Bike. I enjoyed the Video and getting to see the RT,

[@TheJedRides]

Thanks , Joey. I couldn't have said it better myself! (Actually, in the video description, I wrote this: In today's video, I am going to provide 3 reasons I prefer the R1250RT to the GS, and I will explain why I think it is the better bike. But know that I LOVE the GS too! This video explores why the RT is the better bike for me. For now!" Hey, thanks for subscribing, too. I have not uploaded anything in months, but I am planning to do so soon.

[@benkelly2190]

A ride a GSA not off road and I love it. The height, presence and comfort. I had a 1200 RT. It was also a fantastic bike. I just couldn’t live with the looks. The bests bike for you whatever the make model is the one that makes you feel happiest!

[@TheJedRides]

Truth.

[@feloniousmonk3049]

This bike was an early 2022 build R1250 RT. Due to component shortages, it did not come with the radio amplifier, or radar Active Cruise Control. It's obvious by the left control module, not having the extra button on top, left of the red hazard button. BMW discounted these $600 for the radio delete, and I don't know how much for the non Active Cruise Control. Since this was filmed in Los Angeles, with traffic in pretty much all of Southern California, they aren't missed. I don't miss them one bit on my 2022 Alpine White R1250 RT either. Typical of a new BMW, the shifting is a little clunky for 12 to 15000 miles, they smooth up nicely once ridden a bit, otherwise a little notchy. I find the quickshifter feature, once your've read the instructions on how to operate, to be quite slick shifting on mine, and getting better all the time. I'm currently at 5500 miles on mine. I've ridden mine all throughout the Santa Monica Mountains roads and canyons, lots of Angeles Forest and San Gabriel Mountains, and Los Padres National Forest paved roads, as well as many of the passes in the northern Sierras between Mammoth Lakes , Yosemite, clear up to South Lake Tahoe, and the bike is the best I've had the honor of riding, out of all of them. Immense torque for it's engine displacement of 1254 cc's, and the HP really kicks in much above 4500 rpm with quite acceptable acceleration rates.

[@emak4558]

Your comments and insights about handling are exactly spot on.

[@TheJedRides]

Hey, thanks. Always nice to receive a compliment! (But fun, too, to hear opposing views.) I am still very much enjoying the RT.

[@maxnmat]

Jed, I purchased my 2018 model R1200RT about 3-4 months ago, done over 5k Kilometres, this is the best bike ive ever ridden, cant wait till i upgrade to the model with the TFT screen, im in Australia 🇦🇺 Campbelltown NSW on the east coast.

[@TheJedRides]

I can’t argue with you Mike! The RT is just an amazing machine!

[@fonzitheman]

Hey maxnmat.. I used to live near Picton in early to mid 80s (teen years) and back then often went to Campbelltown shopping centre, McArthur square was called. It was a shopping centre with nothing around it, not anymore huh lol Now on Vic/NSW border since 87. I have an '02 R1150RT that Ive had for 9 years. Its still a decent bike but defo also looking to upgrade, probs not for a few years yet though. Dunno if Id get late model used 1200 or 1250 RT, or new. New is always great but as you know not cheap here. Not sure I can justify spending that much. Hows that 1200RT going?

[@Dennzio1]

keep coming back to this one. I'm 5'9" 32" inseam....think that matters more than anything to me. Control over the machine is paramount.

[@Ppilot71]

OUTSTANDING post!!! I am a 67 year old retired Airline Captain, been riding since I was14 years old. Im definitely a Sport Touring fan. I've owned ST1100, ST1300, K1200GT (rode it to 145,000 miles normal maintenance only) K1300GT, Kawasaki Concourse 1000, Kawasaki Concourse 1400, Then I bought a R1200RT (2006) and was very disappointed with the power (low) of it and sold it, then Bought a new HD Road Glide (big mistake) after 2000 miles I sold it and bought a 2018 GoldWing DCT (disappointed with the DCT, (I like to shift) I recently came across a R1200RT 2015, I test rode it and had to buy it 61,000 miles $7,200 Out the door. THIS BIKE RUINED ME!!! I love it! plenty of power and makes my face hurt with the permanent smile on my face while riding. I am now working on the finances to get a new or newer R1250RT. I absolutely love this bike! the power is all there, the torque is all there, the convenience and technology is all there. I love the quick shifter. etc....etc...etc... and I loved your report on it. I had to subscribe to your channel. Thank you.

[@TheJedRides]

Thanks for your comment. A couple of observations: 1) you’ve been through a lot of bikes! 2) you’re the first person I have heard say he didn’t like the DCT. I’ve never ridden a bike that had it but I want to give it a try. Glad you enjoyed the video, and glad you’re enjoying your BMW. There’s not a finer sport tourer than the RT in my opinion. That said, you may not like that I’m riding my Road Glide more than the RT at the moment and may sell the RT. It’s a long story, but not at all an indication that my opinion of the RT has changed. It has not. 👍🏼

[@Ppilot71]

@@TheJedRides Yes, JED it is fortunate that we have many different choices. The DCT is a personal thing, I have not met many people that don't like it. I find that when doing slow controlled maneuvers in tight spaces like a parking lot, when you "feather" the clutch to maintain steady forward "SLOW" speed, it is difficult with the DCT; I had to maintain acceleration with brake engaged to keep it from free wheeling and throwing off your balance. It's just me. The Harley besides the weight, its not a sporty bike (again my preference) but the other big issue (I live in Miami; in the upper 80's and 90's most of the year and humid) was the temperature from the engine burning my right leg where I have some nerve damage from diabetes, and it was unbearable, the position and comfort was great, but many other issues like not being able to take the panniers off to bring into the hotel room (same with the GoldWing). Though the RT is relatively "light" for the category, as I get older, I find myself valuing (and missing) the "reverse" to get it out of my storage and other times when you need to backup (same with the Harley). Thanks for the reply and opinion, and keep on riding till you can't any more!

[@Ppilot71]

I have since lost 129 lbs and no longer have High Diabetes! and got rid of many other health issues too. I will be riding more now!!!

[@TheJedRides]

@@Ppilot71 that’s AWESOME! Congrats!!!

[@MWS1960]

Ha…..I’m an ex airline pilot for British Airways and your story is so similar to mine. I’ve ridden a lot of bikes and bought a 2015 RT and I have never looked back. I keep trying to convince myself of a GSA, but I absolutely love the RT. Retired at 63 here and now I’m thinking a new RT.

[@trogowski1]

I liked watching your video more for update features. I've got a 2009 R1200RT that I bought with 9,000 miles. It was my first bike in 35 years and while I knew I wanted a BMW, I didn't know if I'd like riding again. I DO! Buddies and I have created some fun trips and now I'm giving serious thought to upgrading to a newer year. Price is a factor, and fortunately I've kept mine up and resale value is quite good. A few of the newer features that weren't available then were the magic wheel on the left side, and also the now, very modern digital display. Keyless and central locking are cool, but not urgent for me. The new bikes are water cooled, which isn't a concern for me, as mine (airhead) has never got into a hot zone, although we've done some desert riding. You did a good job in this video...the first that I've seen from you. Best wishes.

[@TheJedRides]

Thanks for the kind words and glad to hear you are enjoying your RT!

[@aarondeere]

I've had my 22 rt for just over a yr and it's my 1st bmw. I'm coming from the harley world and this is just a fantastic bike. Love the suspension and windscreen. The controls and tech are great.

[@TheJedRides]

Glad you are enjoying it. Were you riding a Harley touring model previously? If so, what was it, and what year?

[@aarondeere]

@TheJedRides I still have it. It's a '18 heritage. My wife started riding more and wanted something more comfortable. I tried out the ultra limited and road glide but was very disappointed with the ride. I've put aftermarket suspension on my heritage but it still doesn't ride as nice as the rt. The Indian Challenger was a close 2nd but thought the rt fit me better.

[@TheJedRides]

@@aarondeere interesting. I don't think of the Heritage as a touring bike, but my view is based on the "old" softail frames and suspension rather than the new 2018+ version. I have ridden the new Lowrider S and ST, and both impressed me, actually, but I have not been on a new Heritage and I have not been on a new FL of any sort. I really want to demo a Road Glide. I imagine it will feel heavy and won't turn in as nimbly as the RT? Curious what disappointed you?

[@aarondeere]

@TheJedRides yeah I wouldn't put the heritage in the touring class either. I'm a smaller guy at 5'7 and 155lbs so a 900lb bike isn't as easy as my bikes. Maybe it wasn't setup right but had a very harsh ride and just wasn't happy with it. The challenger hands down rode better and felt had a much lower center of gravity. The rt has a low center of gravity too. The ultra/road glide are good bikes but the chassis feels dated compared to other bikes. I would take a r18 over the harley. That bike rode very nice too.

[@TheJedRides]

@@aarondeere The R18 is definitely nice. I just don't know if I could own a cruiser that's not an HD Same feeling in reverse 😁about the HD Pan America -- it's a great bike, but if I going to ride an adventure bike it's going to be a BMW!

[@Fernando90054]

Hello, thanks for the video. You’re seemly on the same page as me. I had two GS’s , first the 1200 an after, the 1250. They were both very good bikes but when I spotted the 2021 RT with the adaptative cruise control, the heated seat, the central locking system, I said “ let me try the bike…” I did it and it was astonishing for me:- More comfort in every environment, city streets, on every type of road (except off road, but I never went with the GS anyway), and that massive wind shield cuts all the wind noise from you and from your helmet, like the GS’s couldn’t perform, ever. On the RT you lift the wind shield, you just listen to the sound of the engine running as you ride the bike and that noise is music for my ears. No more wind noise like I had always on the GS’s and every other bikes in general. My wife use to enjoy the GS back seat with the top case there, she was in a higher position to see everything in front of us. But after changing to the RT she said she feels even better at the back seat. It is a larger seat and the aerodynamics of the bike is felt by the passenger too. So, The bike costs a little more money but definitely worst it. The lights are of a supreme quality, everybody see you and if you find someone sleeping at the will you can always wake the m up by using the powerful horn which doesn’t leave anyone indifferent. So it is a mile muncher, but so easy to handle that it is good for the minor jobs too, of course. It can be your only bike if you want. It does everything like royalty! I love mine, and this one is a keeper! Note: By the way, I subscribed the channel with pleasure ✌️✌️✌️

[@TheJedRides]

Brito, I seriously think you are the 1000th Subscriber to the channel, so THANK YOU!!! And thanks for sharing your thoughts on the RT, which do sound very similar to mine. I didn't review the passenger comfort because I have not had a passenger on the bike yet. Good to know your wife gives it high marks.

[@alan36753]

The huge popularity of the GS puzzles me. I guess if you put image as numer one on your priority list then it might make sense. Like accountants buying pick-up trucks

[@TheJedRides]

Maybe that's analogous. I think lots of folks drive pickup trucks because they are comfortable, practical and super-capable vehicles. I think the same of the GS.

[@alan36753]

@@TheJedRides how is a pick up practical for an accountant. Or a bike with off road tyres practical for 100% street use. Practical for a particular application yes. Universal no.

[@TheJedRides]

@@alan36753 I hear you. I would say an accountant (or any professional) who rides dirt bikes can drive the pickup to work during the week and take his teenage son to the dirt on the weekends. Ask me how I know! 🤠 kzbin.info/www/bejne/iae6oKV_qa2HjKc

[@adv_rider]

I'm glad you said a better bike for you. Both bikes exist because different people like different things. I don't even disagree with you because you see it from your own point of view, but some of things that make an RT what it is, such as the 17" front wheel and sporty seating position are the things I dislike about that bike.I know, I am a GS fanboy 😅

[@ruffleschips9055]

I really enjoyed your review. Good that you found a bike that fits and you enjoy. Some riders have to try out 40 bikes before they find their soul mate. Sounds like an rt would tick most boxes for me. I like comfort and agility more than speed.

[@helilife]

Just sold my one year old GSA. I never did any off-road and feel the RT would be better as an all purpose bike. Will be buying it soon

[@zerocool6370]

Really looking into one of these, I recently rode a 1250 R and realized i need more wind protection as I do alot of highway riding so it is a tossup between the RS and RT how is the Soundsystem? Not one review that I have seen or read mentions it.

[@TheJedRides]

Ha, great question. Well, I've yet to ride a motorcycle with speakers that can be heard at highway speeds, and the RT is no exception. If you need loud, crystal clarity you will be disappointed. That said, I do occasionally use the speakers when i am riding around town, and they work well for this. Like most, though, I prefer to use helmet speakers and bluetooth when/if I want to listen to music or podcasts while riding.

[@zerocool6370]

@@TheJedRides that is for the quick response

[@daveyator]

I have to add a handling comparison note between the RT and the R1250RS. The RS is arguably a much more "sport" oriented sport tourer than the RT, yet the RT completely out handles the RS. I think thats interesting because the the RS is lighter and generally smaller.

[@keithchelini5776]

Great review! I put a deposit down on one yesterday. During my test ride I was amazed by how well the bike leans over. I’ve only been riding for two years but have owned a few bikes…Ducati Multistrada 950s, Triumph Speed Triple, Ducati Monster 950, Triumph Scrambler XC 1200, Moto Guzzi V7. This is by far the best handling bike I’ve experienced. The bike is planted and wants to hold a line into a turn. I was always annoyed by the twitchy front ends of the sportier bikes and the micro adjustments needed throughout a turn. The Multistrada also wanted to run wide during downhill hairpins due to it’s large front wheel. I absolutely cannot wait to pick up my RT on Tuesday and get to riding!

[@TheJedRides]

Congrats, Keith. Wow, that’s a lot of bikes in two years, but it says a lot if you chose the RT over that list. 👍🏼

[@nikos-giorgos]

You meant to say "the best handling bike, at the much lower speeds it can achieve" That would be more accurate especially compared to the Ducatis and speed triple...

[@TheJedRides]

@@nikos-giorgos yes, that would be accurate, I agree. I’ve since reviewed the Multistrada V4S on the channel. Hope to get to take out the new Tiger when it shows up. We have only a sparse Triumph dealer network here.

[@keithchelini5776]

@@nikos-giorgos You meant to say you are not a BMW fan or have not sampled the bike? Actually I apologize, as I do not like to put words in someone’s mouth. For reference, all bikes were compared at similar speeds and conditions.

[@nikos-giorgos]

@@keithchelini5776 Good on you if you liked the bike, I'm not a fan of any motorcycle brand and I've only been riding for 38 years, so let me have my own opinion on bike handling. But I'll give you that, it's always great if you really like and enjoy the bike you own, no matter what everyone else thinks.

[@johnathonme]

Ya know, I have an 07 RT with BMW panniers and top-case and I love love love it to bits and its my primary transport but man, because I'm in and out of the panniers a dozen times a day I wish it had central locking and the light in the top-case like the newer models have as I'm constantly locking and unlocking and its a chore. I can't yet afford a newer RT but one day I'll upgrade purely for central locking. Thanks for the review, love your video, especially the 4K!😍

[@TheJedRides]

Thanks for the kind words. Hope you are able to upgrade sooner rather than later, but I am sure the 07 is a blast to ride, too.

[@billybonehead7598]

I’ve got a 2021 RT with all the toys in pearl white. At 55 I decided I’m not going off road. Living in the UK I’m visiting Norway and Sweden in July. For parts of the trip I will ‘blat’ alone the motorways at speed, and while being a tourist on tarmac I can’t think of a better bike. I’m bought the top box, which I don’t like the look of, but I need the extra space for clothing (I’m too old to wash stuff in a sink!). 2,000 miles completed, but love my toy! Thanks for the review!

[@TheJedRides]

Billy, they look fantastic in the pearl white color. We think alike, it sounds, in many ways. Must be the all the wisdom we've acquired at our age! Sounds like a fantastic trip ahead for you!

[@johnmacdonald1878]

I enjoyed your ride. I've only been there once. I stopped for a photo opp at the exact same spot. Just long enough to recognize it. Pity I never got to ride the infamous corner, is it still closed? Can't disagree I've never ridden the RT. My buddy rides an RT, its his choice for his ride. He loves it. I chose the GS for my ride for its versatility. I love it. Even so I am pretty sure I saw a couple of RT on the Dempster. So I agree. It is which one works for you for your ride. It makes sense the RT is the better handlining road bike, it is optimised as a fast or sport road touring bike and probably been the gold standard since forever.

[@TheJedRides]

That’s cool that you’ve stopped at the same place, and cool that you ride a GS!

[@Equalizer58]

I’m glad you’re enjoying your RT. My experience is a little different. I’ve owned both bikes now (2010 GSA and 2016 RT). I’m going back to the GSA. Enjoy that bike of yours! They are both awesome machines! There is no wrong answer on which one to choose .. only personal preference.

[@TheJedRides]

Completely agree. Enjoy the GSA when you get it!

[@emak4558]

Really, you have not owned either one. We are talking about current renditions - and those are very very different from the two model years you reference.

[@adammfharris]

Yes, you have not owned either one.

[@Equalizer58]

⁠​⁠​⁠@@adammfharris yes , jump in there and show your ignorance too

[@Equalizer58]

⁠@@emak4558ummm, showing you’re ignorance on BMW motorcycles.

[@gohjohan]

I was choosing between, the Honda GoldWing, BMW R1200GS, R1200RS and the R1200RT. If I can get a 1250cc model, then it will be a bonus. I ended up with the Honda GoldWing instead, because the salesman talked me into it. Edited to add, KZbin suggested your video to me because of the search algorithm. I was obviously researching BMWs too but it's not meant to be for me at this stage. Thank you for the comparison video.

[@TheJedRides]

Enjoy the Goldring, Jo-han!

[@gohjohan]

@@TheJedRides Goldring ..... LOL You sound disappointed that I went the other route. Don't worry, I'll get a BMW next time because I know that any of the BMWs I was looking at would still be lighter than the Goldwing, even the latest model. At full tank, the Goldwing is a drop dead anchor. 3/4 tank, still alright and any time below 1/2, I can heft the bike around when stationary.

[@TheJedRides]

@@gohjohan 😂 I think that must have been an autocorrect! No, not disappointed at all. The Goldwing is a fantastic bike from all that I have heard!

[@philsince59]

I ride a humble 2020 wee strom XT ADV (which I love), and my friend has a BMW K 1600 GTL, which is awesome and all, BUT- I know another guy who has a pearl white Goldwing and that thing is one of the most beautiful incredible bikes I have ever seen. You got to do you!

[@douglaselliott8298]

I rode as a motorcycle legal messenger for 15 years in LA - So California and accrued over 500k miles on BMWs alone. I didn't need your rundown on the modern electronic wizardry so I muted the sound and just reminisced as you traveled roads I once knew all TOO well. Nice putt!

[@TheJedRides]

Douglas, glad you found a way to enjoy i! Thanks for checking it out. 👍🏼

[@scottanderson4175]

I was definitely RT vs GS but I chose the GS because I love the extra air I receive on warm and hot days 😐 I’m very happy with my choice

[@TheJedRides]

Buzz, the GS is a fantastic bike in many ways, and that’s as good a reason as any. Enjoy it! 👍🏼

[@russspeiser4540]

We have a 2021 R1250RT and I agree with your comments. We rented a 2021 R1250GS for a week during a recent trip in Morocco and were glad to get back to the RT. The GS did fine, but we felt the RT handling was superior, and the comfort level was higher. I was expecting the GS to be better due to more leg room (I'm 6'2"with 32" inseam) but the difference was not noticeable. The GS is very nice, but we prefer the RT.

[@Richard.Cabeza]

Good info. Same size 6.2/32. I'll be test riding the GS and RT next year. Maybe the RT will be the newer 1300 by then.

[@787mech]

Ive owned an 1150RT that i only rode for about 6 months before I totalled it by t-boning a teenager, and then a 2007 R1200RT-P. I'm retiring her from duty at 153k and I am going to miss her. Ive been looking at a GSA, but worried it won't live up to the RT. I do wish I could have one of each.

[@davidmc3741]

Kenny made you drink the cool aid didn't he? Gotta say its a nice ride though, and i'm tempted to try that cool aid after I'm done pretending ill use my GS offroad..

[@TheJedRides]

He’s a bad influence on so many levels David!

[@marshallhammond1099]

What is your audio solution in your helmet? Terrific audio quality. Cool bike too, though I'm kind of into the R100 GS right now, which is a whole different kettle of fish from the sweet ride you reviewed here.

[@TheJedRides]

Marshall, at present I am using a Sena 50S and Spotify. R100 GS is a nice kettle of fish to be kinda into!

[@waynejenkins3254]

My last bike was an RNineT a wonderful bike that handled really good I am an old man and it freaked people out that I had no chicken strips on the BMW such a great bike the only reason I got rid of it was I got stage 4 lung cancer and my doctor said I would die with it and about two years of chemo and I beat it it’s been about three years since I beat it and I am getting stronger so after I get strong enough to pick one up I’m getting the R1250 RT I love that bike and want some luggage compartment so I can go wherever I want I’ve been retired since I got cancer and I am ready for a new bike

[@travelinben1966]

I’d get the RT for purely aesthetic reasons.Thanks for comparing and contrasting these three models Jed.👍🏻👍🏻

[@TheJedRides]

The pleasure was mine. Thanks for the comment, Ben.

[@crispykermit4537]

Great review, Jed. I took delivery of my triple black 2022 RT last weekend, and am loving it. Great to see you riding through my old neighborhood, too. I’m up and Oregon now, and ready to explore all the new (to me) roads. Looking forward to your next video.

[@TheJedRides]

Congrats on the new bike. Enjoy it and ride safe. 👍🏼

[@reecemullins8978]

Great video Jed. I too have a ‘22 RT, and agree with all your assessments. Couple of comments, I’m really surprised you didn’t mention shift assist pro, and the automatic weight shock adjustment, and the ride modes on the go. I too use the app for my navigation needs, and have discovered that dedicating a separate phone (the iPhone SE for me) makes for a great solution to fit in the mobile phone compartment.

[@maxnmat]

Jed, i test rode an RT twice now, i still havent bought one yet, but we do have a shortage here in Australia 🇦🇺 the thing i enjoyed the most was the comfort, the aerodynamics were gold, you dont seem to get buffeting, im not concerned about power, just comfort

[@TheJedRides]

Yes, Gary, that’s part of the magic of the bike. It’s relatively effortless, powerful riding on an RT.

[@not-this-fartoofar3606]

Hi Jed...I have the K1600 GT and before that the R1200RT... looking a gettting a R1250GS or R1250RT.... Going for a testride this weekend. Fancy the GS but not sure as wife and I do a lot of summer tours.

[@TheJedRides]

Thanks for the comment. Curious: why are you looking to move from the K1600 GT?

[@SegerGiesbers]

That Saab 9-2X @ 3:14 though! Love it as well

[@TheJedRides]

You're an eagle eye!

[@r12rtpilot]

What video and sound set up are you using? Great informative video! Wait till you try the bar backs....game changing comfort

[@TheJedRides]

Hey, thanks. I use an inexpensive stereo lapel mic (Purple Panda I think it is called) from Amazon tucked into the cheek pad of my helmet and an old GoPro Hero 8 with a media mod. It's fairly bullet proof, but at highway speeds I do get a bit of wind noise. I hope to figure out how to get rid of some that in Final Pro, but I have not yet made time to learn how.

[@r12rtpilot]

@@TheJedRidesthanks so much for the info! By the way, your video made me a little bit homesick! Those are the roads I used to ride nearly every single day when I lived in California. Now I live in the Pacific Northwest, where great roads are also very, very common, and my RT is very much at home. It’s a great bike!

[@TheJedRides]

@@r12rtpilot for what it is worth, I have recently switched to a GoPro Hero 12, which allows me to use the mic from my Sena headset connected via Bluetooth to the GoPro rather than hard wired. That has worked well for me. I think it may also work with certain Cardo headsets.

[@peterhart5882]

i bought a new "04 rt, then traded it in for a '16 rt. by far, the best motorcycle i have ever owned/ridden.

[@PontyBoy71]

Currently on a 2014 Honda ST1300 Pan European but I think this will be my next bike

[@VRFlightSimGuy]

Nice video, I'm personally not a fan of that iPad style looking dash, I actually think it makes the bike look cheaper. BMW should have made it look more integrated, rather than an afterthought just slapped on like that.

[@TheJedRides]

Thanks. I kind of reacted that way to the TFT when I first saw it, but I’ve grown to like the way it looks. I definitely enjoy it.

[@VRFlightSimGuy]

@@TheJedRides That's great to hear 👍

[@garycrumrine9538]

Sorry Jed, I see all three bikes arer absolutely top notch. All three are sharing the same lineage, yet with differences in bodywork, they tend to be tuned to specific riding. You are correct, it comes down to an individuals decisions on where and how to ride. I myself have a '23 RT in my garage yet I went to the dealer to actually get a GSA. Do to wait times and the road riding necessary in the future, The RT made sense. I still want a GSA some day, but as I progress, I am really feeling the RS will join the RT in the garage before the GSA. Mainly as the asthetic looks, than actual adventure riding.. All of the boxers would do the job well, but as my wants, needs and tastes change with the wind, I would like them all. Would I get rid of the RT? Not on your life.

[@TheJedRides]

No need to apologize. Everything you said is true!

[@GaryCrumrine]

@@TheJedRides Now that I am 9 months in, my thoughts really HAVE changed. First I'll admit although I have ridden for over 50 years, I had a 15 year break between my crotch rocket days and today, and although I felt there would not be an issue, boy was I wrong. First, I had 3 really bad concussions, which have really affected my balance. Leg strength has also waned once I got over 65. And this bike is over 600 lbs, which is 200 lbs heavier than anything I had ever ridden. Recently my doctors have told me NO to the Bike. That came after I dropped it twice in two days with a night spent in the hospital in between. So to tell you the truth, the thing scares the B'Jeesus out of me. I am working on my head case now, but I am not sure I can beat this. An RS looks better, maybe even an R, but for now, just polishing my RT is enough. By the way, I am Gary Crumrine from above

[@TheJedRides]

@@GaryCrumrine Hi Gary. As we age, we all re-evaluate and rebalance our desires and our limitations. (And not just with respect to motorcycles, but I digress!) The good news is that the GS/A and RT bikes hold their value fairly well. No shame in making a change if you decide to do that. And thanks for the report back. 👍🏼

[@stephenpeterman4886]

I own a 2020 RT and I completely agree with your assessment of the positive differences between these bikes if you ride Grey top roads. We pay loads of dollars for the tech and ride that BMW offers. They design these two bikes to offer choice depending on your riding preference. To me this means if you are a street only rider then the RT is the better choice. If you prefer the flexibility to venture off road, then the GS offers you that flexibility. As a 2020 owner, I do wonder if the options of TRT and the upgrades to the lighting would be worth the trade cost. Love to hear your thoughts on that.

[@TheJedRides]

If I had a 2020 I don’t think I would jump to trade for the newer design. I don’t think the updates, as nice as they are, would be worth the cost. On the other hand, the used market is crazy high right now… 😏

[@FrankMorberger]

Great review. Very helpful in making my decision as I’m leaning towards a new RT coming from a GSA. I’ve subscribed.😊

[@solomoto4706]

I love my 17 GSA and purchased it with zero intention of ever going off-road. I don’t like all the RT plastic hindering access for service, need the upright riding position and enjoy the range with the nearly 8 gallon tank. I’ll likely change over to a GS if I ever begin to struggle with the weight of the fully loaded GSA.

[@TheJedRides]

That point about the plastic is a good one that I should have discussed. It is a little bit of a pain. And that 8 gallon tank on the GSA is great for range, though in practice I always stop every 150 miles at a minimum.

[@coffeytnmilk]

Good comments and review! Appreciate the channel.

[@TheJedRides]

Thanks! 🙏

[@BMWAVENTURA]

I got a triple black 2022 R1250RT as well amazing bike

[@TheJedRides]

Agree!

[@mrktm65sx]

I recently considered 1250GS vs 1250RT; dealer only had GS, which I test rode and eventually bought. I preferred RT aesthetics but multiple KZbin videos (and read related comments) said RT riding position is uncomfortable for taller riders. I'm 6'1 with 33" inseam, and worried the RT would be uncomfortable. But videos like this make me wonder if the RT would have been the better choice (no desire to take GS off-road).

[@TheJedRides]

Your inseam is 3 inches longer than mine so maybe you made the right call. On the other hand, my friend Kenny is 6’4” or so and he loves his RT.

[@3pedal372]

I’m 6’3 and ride an RT for 25k miles a year. I prefer the tall seat but even the stock seat in tall setting is fine

[@TheJedRides]

@@3pedal372 Good point about the tall seat. Kenny rides with a Sargeant seat that looks to be quite a bit taller than stock.

[@MWS1960]

Add a lowering kit and bar risers and you’ll sit very very comfortably on the RT. Even if you’re 6’2” tall

[@marktroughton1064]

Thanks, this was a great review with helpful insights! Still on my RT 1200, one day hope to upgrade.

[@kyleturner6829]

I have buyers remorse. I traded my '14 RTW in for a '22 GS. I plan on doing some very light off road (fire road) riding. I read that the GS was very good on the highway as well. But the wind is brutal. I switched to a Puig windscreen and that helped, but now I'm getting buffeted badly in my torso from the sides. Sucks.

[@TheJedRides]

Sorry Kyle. There's no two ways about it -- you're definitely out in the wind a bit more on a GS. It never really bothered me much, except on one 400 mile day that was all freeway in bad wind. Thing is, I would not say the GS is bad in wind. It's actually very good compared to most bikes. It's just that the RT excels in that area.

[@splodge57]

I had the GS1150 back in 2001. It was terrible on the Highway over 80mph. Even with a larger screen the wind buffeting was too much.

[@kyleturner6829]

I sold my '22 GS! It was awesome for what it was. But it just wasn't for me. I bought my 2nd RT. Wow! What a difference on the highway over 65 mph!

[@TheJedRides]

@@kyleturner6829 Wow -- congrats Kyle!

[@TheJedRides]

@@splodge57 To be fair, it's probably been refined a bit since then! But still nowhere near as protective as an RT.

[@motoexploration4169]

Nicely done. SUBSCRIBED! You have heated seats so I'm assuming you have the Premium Pkg. Doesn't the Premium Pkg include the Adaptive Cruise Ctrl (ACC) ?

[@TheJedRides]

Hey thanks. Pandemic supply chain issues caused short supplies of chips needed for ACC and radios so the Premium package was dropped for a period and turned into a package the name of which escapes me now that had everything but those two items. A “Radio prep” option was added for a time that included the speakers but no radio unit.

[@Richard.Cabeza]

The GS is my preference because I CAN go off-road when I'm traveling and I want to take that desert or mountain shortcut road. Going to places that the cars can't go is oh so fun and the views are usually spectacular. Good camping too. I prefer to live in warm weather areas and occasionally ride in cooler climates, I'm not a fan of fairings, especially big ones and I like to stand up a lot when I ride. SO, I will be test riding the new GS when I get back to the states and I feel pretty sure I'll buy one.

[@TheJedRides]

Makes senses, Richard. Hope that new GS is as special as it appears.

[@Richard.Cabeza]

@@TheJedRides We will see and hear as more get delivered and ridden.

[@robertfeast7691]

I had a test ride of an RT last week. I was considering exchanging my three year old Africa twin. I found the RT really uncomfortable. The foot pegs were too high and the bars too far forward with no option for suitable adjustment. Loved the motor and handling are great for a large bike but, as a long distance tourer it was a let down.

[@TheJedRides]

Hi Robert. Thanks for sharing your perspective. If you are used to an Africa Twin, I can see why the RT may feel uncomfortable to you. I agree that the more upright ADV posture can easily feel more comfortable. It is important to share contrasting perspectives to my own, and I really appreciate that you did. I actually enjoy the foot position, and the bar position, and can be comfortable for 500 mile days (on pavement), even at my advanced age! Cheers!

[@David_Keith]

Thanks for a great video. My iPhone has to reconnect to the TFT screen after switching the bike off and on again.

[@TheJedRides]

Thanks David. Yes, mine seems to as well. Although once I swear it reconnected itself after the bike was off for a brief period!

[@pw9150]

Fully understand your reasons to switch to the RT, if for mostly road driving (& for the GS vs. GSA for off-road) in terms of even more comfort. Guess there aren’t many good drivers, who can handle the GSA in extrem offroad 🤔). But for the Allround-Option-Travelling the ordinary GS (in my case the 2012 model) is still very capable on the road without feeling unsecure in cornering or on the highway, even with sozia & luggage. And there are some bucks left for fuel or hotels on the trip compared to your wonderful road cruiser 😜 Maybe have to get a bit older to understand, but I will definitely drive once the RT to get this feeling (after the R1200R/ R1250R & 1200GS now) ✨ keep on going with the channel, good work, greetings from the black Forrest/ South of 🇩🇪 👋🏻

[@TheJedRides]

Your thoughts on the GS are of course quite valid, and they carry even more weight coming from Germany, P W. Thanks for watching and for commenting.

[@thecrush1991]

Jed great review. When his the curves in dynamic mode you really feel the suspension tighten up and really accelerate along with pro abs braking makes it fun to ride. My favorite tech is the adaptive cruise control I commute 3 times a week down 15 to work it make the ride very enjoyable takes some time to feel confident with slowing and speeding up of the bike. The LED headlights really light the road at night if ever find out to adjust the high beam down just that would be great to hear. Do you have a radio the 21 didn’t come with it due to chip shortage. The tft does a learning curve to on nest service they are to update the firm ware for the better phone connection and button. Keep the info see you the road blue 21 sport

[@TheJedRides]

Yes, if I jad a commute down the 15 I would want Active Cruise Control for sure! I have the radio prep kit but still need the radio unit itself, which I will have installed when available. See you on the road!

[@borismajinovic8179]

i can show you how to adjust the headlights- let me know if required.

[@thecrush1991]

@@borismajinovic8179 my high beams are too high they really light for off thank you

[@MWS1960]

I have an RT, but took out a GSA today from my local BMW dealership……..which was the lower seat version and it was exactly the same seating height as the RT I own. On my RT I have a lowering peg kit and the bar risers that were put on by the previous owner who is 6’3”. I thought I would hate the risers and lowering peg kit, but I absolutely love it. I’m 5’10” with a 30 inch inseam. Great video.

[@TheJedRides]

Thanks for the reply, Michael. I've never tried a GSA with a low seat -- that is good to know. Have you tried your RT without the lowering kit for the footpegs? It might be worth a try just to see if you might prefer it without. Your height and inseam are virtually the same as mine, and I don't have any discomfort from the pegs. I wonder whether the lowered footpegs on the RT reduce lean angle any?

[@MWS1960]

@@TheJedRides I had another RT…an identical RT without the lowering kit and bar risers and I do find this bike a more comfortable ride.

[@soldat2501]

I love the RT but where I live it makes a poor choice for the roads I take. In Italy, if you want to reach the hard to find places, the roads can be rough. I’ve seen perfectly good asphalt turn to potholes and collapsed asphalt or concrete in a matter of yards, on hills, curves too. Some roads go straight to gravel or even trails. Only a GS or other adventure based bike has the ability to handle the vast road changes I can encounter in Italy. If you only take the highways an RT is fine. And for many, that’s just fine. The RT is a great tourer but it’s limited to the better roads where the GS isn’t.

[@feloniousmonk3049]

Question from a USA rider, how are the road conditions in and around Andalusia, Spain? Malaga? Sierra Nevada Mountain ranges?

[@soldat2501]

@@feloniousmonk3049 never been to any of those places. Only rode in Italy and the East Coast for the USA. I'm in Africa now but take my moto trips in Italy when I can.

[@damenbartling]

Im really stuck between choosing the 24 1250RT and the 1600b. Looking to do a lot of two up riding with the wife so its a hard choice to make

[@ridicule35]

Hello from Brittany France. I watched this video and usually I say to each his own. However I am a long time bmw owner ( 2x k16GT with 80000km between, 2x 1200RT with 160000km between them, 1x 1250 GSA with 32000km in two years). I gave up the K16GT’s to go to a GSA for some trail riding but also because it offers twice the suspension travel to the K16GT. I don’t ride highways. I love country roads, alps, other European countries where the tarmac isn’t smooth. 1250GSA gives you comfort neither the K16GT nor my current R1200RT is technically capable of delivering. I keep the current 1200RT/2008, now at 110000km, as my daily workhorse. It is ridden all year, every day, whatever the weather. I do about 30000km/year between these bikes. The RT is excellent. However it is not to be compared to a GS/GSA because they aren’t purpose built for the same use. I can’t take the RT off road. The first gear on the RT is long and a royal pain in traffic. The final drive on RT is better suited to long distance crushing at speed. The GS/GSA is slightly shorter because if you off road or carrying tons of gear, you don’t want to be doing this on an RT. Why chose one or the other? They two different purpose built bikes. Get both. I did. Have never looked back. If you had to pick one do it all bike, including off road, the GS/GSA is the only choice and this is proven by BMW’s sales figured worldwide. Concerning your point about GSA being too big with the longer range fuel tank, I think you have some personal limitations that aren’t a fair reflection of the GSA. They are off road capable. They are not ‘enduro’ type ´go anywhere any conditions’, especially not mud. Stick to what they designed for. The GSA has everything you speak of including heated seats since 2021. The position of the Garmin nav6 high up avoids you looking down when on the GS/GSA ( or my 1200RT). On the new RT/K16, that big TFT is awesome but you have to glance down. For a split second, your eyes are not road focussed. I dislike this. In terms of benefits vs risk, it’s more risk. You hit a pothole with the cast wheels of the RT, you risk a buckled rim. The spoked rims on the GS/GSA are way more stronger and fit for purpose and can take a harder impact before it buckles. The ground clearance on the GS/GSA is also far superior. The riding position and leverage of the bars on GS/GSA is far super to the RT. You will notice this especially in traffic where you can see way more ahead sat on the GS/GSA than the RT. As far as usage is concerned, if you sit on interstates or just blacktop, that’s comfortable, the RT is best. If you do offroad or ride with crappy road surfaces, you will appreciate the double suspension travel of the GS/GSA. Again, to each his own, but sometimes people say thing’s that just aren’t accurate and I use both bikes… just saying… cheers

[@TheJedRides]

Vernon, wow, thanks for the detailed reply, and apologies for the delay in responding. I think I agree with everything you said except perhaps the note seeing further ahead in traffic, but that's a minor detail. My only point, really, was that for my purpose the RT seems to be the better bike, and several months in I still feel that way. The title was, admittedly, perhaps a bit of click bait! It's a topic that many of us feel passionately about, and of course many of us will defend our own choices passionately as well. Ultimately, I just wanted folks to bring their opinions to the comments, which you have done. THANK YOU!

[@ridicule35]

@@TheJedRides thanks for your response. Concerning the traffic, the overall ride height of the GS/GSA is superior to the RT/K series. This is normal as the trail bike has a higher ground clearance. It’s therefore technical and factual that the same rider, sat on both bikes, will see further forward when seated higher off the road on the GS/GSA. 😎✌️👍

[@Beinhartwie1chopper]

Best review ever!!!!! Greetings from Hamburg/Germany and the West Coast usa

[@abeeres]

I ride the same model since 2 months. I agree to all of you pros. But for me the biggest low is the noise of the boxer. If I ride with 100km/h and the windshield is in upright position, then I hear the extreme loud engine. If I cruise then I hear too much engine noise.

[@TheJedRides]

Interesting - thanks for sharing your perspective. Perhaps because my other bike is a Harley Davidson, I find the boxer engine quiet at any speed!

[@abeeres]

That’s interesting! My last bike was a 2018 Triumph Speedmaster with 1200ccm and this one was quieter then the 1250 boxer.

[@blinker202]

Nice review Jed. I'm new to your channel, and enjoyed both videos I've seen of yours. I just picked up my new 2022 R1250RT with Option 719 (White Metallic) yesterday, and frankly can't get off the bike. Granted, I come from an old, grumpy, character-laced '96 Heritage Softail that would shake the fillings loose from your teeth, but the BMW is almost the perfect bike. If it came with an espresso machine, it would be perfect. I'm less than 60 miles in the saddle, but can't stop smiling. And...I haven't even played with all the bike toys that this bike features. All the best to you, and safe travels ahead. Best, John.

[@TheJedRides]

John, I am pretty sure you’re going to enjoy that bike for a long time and a lot of miles. And I recommend a La Marzocco GS3 for the espresso! 👍🏼

[@philsince59]

First of all I loved the video - being from Southern California but moving to Idaho in '94, it really made me miss the good old days on my '83 Suzuki GS 1100 going to the Rock Store, Mulholland, PCH, Ortega Hwy etc. Loved the LA footage. I also love that RT as well as the GS models and pretty much all BMW boxers. I ride a humble Wee-Strom myself and although it's quite tricked out, neither myself nor my bike will ever be in that league LOL. As far as the actual comparison, in which I heard you qualify "for me" several times, comparing the RT to the GS is apples and oranges. Of course a road bike that you are never going to take off road is going to be superior to an adventure bike which is of course built for that dual purpose and not a dedicated road bike. Someone who wants to ride off-road plus highway touring would obviously not choose the RT. Someone who wants to do sport touring on road only of course would not consider a GS. It's like saying that a Porsche 911 is better on the road than a Porsche Cayenne. Of course it is. They are both built for different purposes. Awesome video though and I subscribed to keep getting your numbers up. Thanks for doing what you do!

[@TheJedRides]

Thanks for the support👍🏼 And I respect the heck out of the V-Strom! I bet that’s a killer bike in Idaho.

[@drewmorg.]

This is so helpful bro! I love recent videos made about this stuff. I'm shopping older RT's at the moment, just learning all my BMW lore. Been considering so many cheap used bikes, so much to choose from with great tech right now. Getting back into riding.

[@TheJedRides]

Thanks for the positive feedback, Drew, and good luck with the hunt for an older RT.👍🏼 My first BMW was a 2004 R1150RT, which I bought as a demo bike that year. It was a great bike, but it had, I think, what they call "servo" brakes, which cause a lot of reaction in the BMW community, mostly negative but actually some positive too. I think by around '07 they stopped using them.

[@drewmorg.]

@@TheJedRides I think I'm really leaning toward R1200RT era. There is a guy up by you in Hermosa actually with a 117k bike for sale for $3000. I'm half tempted to go hand him some bills tomorrow just to drive it around LOL

[@TheJedRides]

I guess in that era you have a choice of oil or water cooled in the later years. I'm no expert, but if they are decently maintained these boxers should be fine for those miles. (You probably want to make sure the clutch is still good, or find out what it would cost to replace.)

[@Pyrrho_]

@@TheJedRides My '03 K1200RS had servo-assisted brakes. Riding a 635 lb bike like a sportbike makes one appreciate formidable breaking force that could be applied with a single finger. It was the fastest & heaviest bike BMW built at the time of its release and it needed all the brakes it could get.

[@TheJedRides]

@@Pyrrho_ I had servos on my 04 RT. Bleeding was an all day affair!

[@rafaelmunguia5964]

Quick Question. How it goes over access roads with compact dirt roads? You know last mile of your final destination?

[@TheJedRides]

The RT handles surprisingly well on packed dirt.

[@rmcdudmk212]

Glad you are liking the bike. It's a beautiful ride, and great for the roads of SoCal.

[@TheJedRides]

I’m out on them right now! 😎 Well, I was. Now I’m, of course, sipping coffee, but with a view of the Pacific!

[@rmcdudmk212]

@@TheJedRides I need to take a trip down there and hit some of them canyon roads. It's only like a 3 hour drive 😁

[@TheJedRides]

@@rmcdudmk212 yes you do.

[@Hopeisdangerousthing]

From your point if you what would you prefer for long travelling rides like four more than one 10,000 km which would be more comfortable which would be better in going down or up a mountain, which would be better for Bad asphalt

[@TheJedRides]

Hi Karem. For me, it is almost always the RT. The one exception in the scenarios you mention would be in the case of EXTREMELY rough pavement. In that case the GS/A’s suspension may prevail. Again, though, these are MY choices, based on my height, riding style, personal preferences. I could of course understand you or anyone else differing. Thanks for watching. 🙏

[@squid148]

I differ on your opinion in regards to the handling vs the GSA I feel that the GSA handles better. What I like about my 22 RT over the GSA is the better wind protection ( electric windshield) , the taller gearing and the active cruise control. As far as comfort, I think the GSA was more comfortable, but didn’t offer as much wind protection. If I were to pick again, I’d probably stick with the RT. Both are great machines.

[@TheJedRides]

Thanks for offering that perspective. You're in good company with the perspective that the GSA is the more comfortable of the two, even if we differ on that point.

[@squid148]

@@TheJedRides I forgot to mention that I’m 6’2”. :)

[@steveottavaino3804]

Great review and timely, looking at a ‘23 RT to replace my ‘06 Yamaha FJR. Hoping you ridden an FJR and can comment on the vibration between the two, I find the high frequency vibes of the FJR off putting. I came off a ‘98 RT for the FJR and wished I hadn’t 25 minutes into the ride home. The RT had a low frequency “throb” but it never put my hands to sleep, the FJR turns them to giant watermelons within minutes. I see comment on your vid indicating you also wish for less vibes, leading me to ask if they are off putting or just characterful? I don’t want another hand numbing ride for sure. I’ve owned over 50 bikes I still kick my self in the backside for selling that RT. Subscribed and Cheers!!!!

[@TheJedRides]

Steve, it's the latter -- characterful (good word) rather than off putting. Frankly, I don't notice it much any more because I am accustomed to it, but it is there. Sorry, no, I have not been on an FJR in many years.

[@s.ri.1020]

I would think a honda gold wing is the pinacle for less vibration.

[@steveottavaino3804]

@@s.ri.1020 I agree with you 100 percent, that and the K1600. Couldn’t find a new GW standard to save my life, not one of the many life time dealers I’ve established fantastic relationships with would or could hook me up. Disappointing... I bought a ‘23 BMW R18 Hundred Year Anniversary and kept the FJR. Love the R18 which has a beautifully unique riding personality and is just superlative looking to me. Be well.

[@cosmins1585]

I know it's too late to comment/reply now regarding your decision but to me (a former 2006/2nd generation FJR owner) it seems strange you found it as having disturbing vibrations; I suspect there was something wrong with yours - did you test-ride another FJR? With my FJR I used to do 2-3 consecutive days of 800-1000miles/day and I found it acceptable in terms of overall comfort (ok, I was in my late 30s back then, for sure that counts) and the vibrations (to me) didn't seem so present/disturbing. The next bike after the FJR was (and still is today) a GT 1600 (110.000 miles currently) and regarding the (lack of) vibrations I guess it has little competition; of course the model has its flaws like any bike but vibration-wise it's top-notch. In Sept 2020 I rented for an extended weekend a RT1250 (the first one with 'regular' dashboard); initially when jumping from the GT the vibration is 'veeeeery present' :)))) But to be honest at the end of the 1000+ miles weekend I got used to the vibrations and didn't find them so annoying; of course - once I jumped back to my GT it was suddenly like a day and night experience (the GT felt, in comparison, as driven by an electric motor). Still, based on my perception and senses, I would not say those 1250RT vibrations are tiresome. I did test in the past the RT1100 and 1200 and the vibrations (and the boxer self-'leaning' while sudden acceleration/deceleration) were significantly improved on the 1250RT. I would be curious though to test again the RT1250 on some 10+ hours riding days and see if those vibrations are tougher for the arms (and body in general) versus similar long days on the GT 😅

[@RobertStack-c2l]

I am considering buying one of these bikes. I am 6feet1 and have a bad back. Do you know if this bike will fit a backrest without any modifications. I ride a Harley and have done for years but looking for a change. Regards Robert

[@TheJedRides]

Robert, I think there are aftermarket seats with backrests but not directly from BMW that I am aware of.

[@snowdiann]

Good video, my current bike is an RT my next bike will be another RT.

[@TheJedRides]

Thanks Snow!

[@Katojones21]

Me being 5-11 inseam 31 . I tested the 2022 in Daytona the problem I had was I felt cramped up like I was on a sport bike. When I returned home I took out my 2021 Gsa and compared it to what I remember from the RT. I agree with you on the upright position on the Gsa . I prefer the Gsa. Just my opinion.

[@TheJedRides]

Kato, thanks, and totally valid. That's a subjective feel, and there's no right or wrong -- it's what feels right. One of my friends rides a 2020 GSA and sat on my RT last weekend. Pretty sure he feels the same as you.

[@gwmeck]

Can highway pegs be added to allow a change in foot position during long rides?

[@TheJedRides]

They can, but I think you would also have to install engine guards from which to mount the highway pegs. I don’t know if another way.

[@mr.stickyfingers3189]

Hey Jed, would you choose a traditional cruiser like your Harley over the bmw 1250rt? Or the BMW? I’m trying to decide between the 1250rt and the Indian pursuit or is the K1600 a better comparison

[@TheJedRides]

I happen to love the FXLR S and also ST and I reviewed both on the channel. Neither really compares to the RT though. It’s apples and oranges. I think they are the best examples of cruisers and the Rat is the best example of a sport touring bike that can be purchased. It would be hard to chose between the two unless you know your style of riding is better suited by one or the other. The K1600 is a horsepower beast but in my opinion does not handle nearly as well as an RT. I’ve never ridden the Indian Pursuit. Please share your thoughts. 👍🏼

[@n228sk]

Very informative video, thanks!

[@tombrown6329]

Silly me! After 4 RTRs: 1100, 1150, 1200hex, '17 1200RTW, I've got myself a triple black GSA with low suspension. It's pretty danged nice. I'm spending money on windscreens and aero bits trying to get it quieted down, but aside from that, I like the handling so far with 90/10 tires. With low suspension, I can have a fairly tall seat and still reach the ground easily. 630 miles so far. Time for 1st service. I tried the 1250 and didn't feel it had a lot more to offer above my '17 RT. While the GSA may or may not offer "more", it's certainly different. I won't be bored! 🥱

[@TheJedRides]

Congrats on the Triple Black GSA! It's a gorgeous beast. One of my riding buddies just purchased the same (though in regular suspension). Enjoy yours!!

[@adrianvervoort852]

I traded my GSA in on a k1600 GT. I am loving the bike for the same reasons you love your RT.

[@TheJedRides]

That's a good point, Adrian, and one I didn't discuss in the video. If you haven't already seen it, we talk informally about both K1600 (GTL) and R1250RT here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/g6XdmJ2Mos2dm6c

[@Magicinstalls]

Active cruise control would’ve been at the top of my list for this bike. Holding off on the 2022K bike waiting for active cruise control

[@TheJedRides]

Steve, thanks. Expand on that if you will. I am on the fence as to whether I will retrofit it when the parts are available from BMW. It looks like may be as high as $900 to do so. Why is it so high on your list?

[@Magicinstalls]

@@TheJedRides our Tesla has it and we love it! Also the 21 RT that I test rode had it. I just find it monotonous on long rides when the leader does not use his cruise control, or when traffic dictates the speed and you have to constantly adjust your cruise control. I was constantly looking at your left hand grip trying to see if your bike was equipped with it. I didn’t find the switch on your left switchgear, but I do see the radar sensor on the front.

[@TheJedRides]

@@Magicinstalls Thanks. No, I don't have it. That's a plastic plug on the front where it should be. But my dealer has found a parts kit from BMW to add it. Those kits are not in the US yet. She's going to let me know when she can get it.

[@graym7803]

I just subscribed to your channel. You have a great channel! I’m am enjoying all your videos. Love your new bike! Can’t wait to see your adventures on it!

[@TheJedRides]

Gray, thanks very much. I’m working on ways to make it even better. 👍🏼

[@joemosely5520]

great review. Any comments on the handlebar vibration at highway speeds? Especially when on an all day ride. I've heard it is intrusive and tiring. thx

[@TheJedRides]

Thanks Joe. There is definitely a buzz in the bars that I wish was not there. That said, whether I am simply accustom to it or immune to it, I’ve never found it intrusive or tiresome. In the best light, it’d maybe a symptom of one of the characteristics of the bike that I enjoy. As refined as this bike is in terms of suspension, braking, safety tech and creature comforts, there’s that old boxer engine tucked under the frame, still a workhorse of a power plant, still chock full of smile-inducing torque (105 foot pounds) that puts a smile on my face. The bike feels alive in a way that, for example, the K1600s do not.

[@joemosely5520]

@@TheJedRides That's good input. Every machine has it's own character that endears it to its owner. I've read some folks' complaints of the vibration/buzzing as numbing so thought I should ask about it. I ride harleys and the newer models have greatly reduced vibration. Plus I'm older and gotten spoiled and soft. lol I'm thinking of adding an RT to the garage. I think like you do and the combination of technology and the natural smoothness of the offsetting boxer design that is appealing.

[@TheJedRides]

@@joemosely5520 I love Harleys and always will. As an American, I am biased in their favor. I’ve uploaded a couple of videos about my two FXRs. I have ridden a number of bikes with the M8 engine. As much as I enjoy them, though, the RT is simply miles ahead, in my opinion, in performance and safety. Where I ride 95% of the time - canyons in/around Southern California, and at my age, that’s really important to me. I would love a Road Glide ST, but I just enjoy the RT too much to give it up as my primary bike at the moment.

[@dhalfyard]

@@TheJedRidesI had a buzz in my bars around 4000rpm. Told the dealer and they installed some addition form and it cured the buzz. Now it’s nice and smooth, dealer told me BMW know about the issue and have a fix for it. But they only do it when a customer complains, the difference is like night and day now.

[@mikestrickland6032]

I miss your KZbin videos, I would love to know what you think of your RT after 2 years of owning and riding it .

[@donalddondero4402]

RT"s Are the best imho BMW"s are second to none !!! Great Vid

[@brucebrown6597]

Great review. One thing I will have to say is, I too have a short inseam. I just picked up a ‘22 GS that is much lower than the RT. The bike is the “Lowered Chasis” model. I don’t know if they still offer that in the RT.

[@TheJedRides]

Bruce, congrats on the GS! Yes, I believe they refer to that as a "Low Suspension" in the US. (Not sure whether you are here or elsewhere in the world.) I should have made reference to it and I am glad you did. Enjoy it!

[@garycrumrine9538]

size of tire will change the gear ratio, which would explain the launch differences

[@χχάάοοςς]

hello, I just moved the the LA area from the North East. I am torn between the RT and the GS. I worry that the RT might not have enough airflow in the warmer summer months. What are your thoughts on this? Does it get too warm here for that big windscreen? Am I going to regret not having gotten the GS? Most my riding will be 2 up cruising and sight seeing. My offroad days are over.

[@TheJedRides]

Hello, Helixx. Congrats on the move. In short, it sometimes gets too warm to ride here, but not because of the windscreen. Placed in its lowest positions, I get ample wind. That said, on days where the temperature outside is 95F + , no amount of wind will actually cool your body. You must consume enough fluids to replace those lost, and wearing proper gear you will most likely be too uncomfortable to ride. My two cents: if you will not be riding offroad at all, go for a GS only if you have decided you prefer the postureoif the GS to the RT. Otherwise, choose the RT.