Why the Dahomey Amazons should NOT be glorified

In no way shape or form should the Dahomey Amazonians be glorified.
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[@rickt1866]

good and evil is not based on a shade of skin good and evil is in the hearts and minds of every shade under the sun.

[@61cents0]

Somebody can't be pure good in history nobody's pure good in history the British were bad in history but they were bad and all history the Dahomey people you're bad at history but they weren't bad in all history

[@sebastianbolt7886]

@@61cents0 but the same British sent countless ships to abolish the slave trade. Wickedness is a human condition.

[@mr.joedirt8583]

The Dahomey people's entire economy was based on slavery. Human flesh was consumed as much as livestock during that time. The Dahomey used female warriors because they had lost too many men in the slave trade wars. They were the equivalent to today's child soldiers. The Dahomey also fought to try and keep the slave trade going. They were a nation that embraced the worst and most barbaric aspects of humanity.

[@tijan8948]

Yes, I figured it would have been due to a shortage of men

[@brothernumber1576]

They also sold their own men into slavery... that is another reason why they used women. Lack of manpower.

[@valorzinski7423]

In today's world that's called sustainable living with low carbon footprint!

[@brothernumber1576]

@@valorzinski7423 Hahahahahaha yep! spot on

[@zabariduwab9950]

Most African tribes engaged in slavery

[@MissFiyah1]

The Dahomey should be VILIFIED not GLORIFIED. Prior to being sold to Europeans, slaves were forced to march in circles around the "Tree of Forgetfulness" so they would lose memories of their culture, family, and homeland. The purpose of this ritual was to prevent the spirits of the slaves from returning and seeking revenge against the royalty of Dahomey. It failed, I remember!

[@leeolie3728]

Yep, they cast spells on us and most of us still don’t truly remember who we were beyond slavery and this moment. They sold us specifically because of who we were, the nation that no one wants to properly acknowledge.

[@showa546]

Spartans shouldn't be glorified either and yet they're on mainstream media portrayed as heroes. They had horrible customs and they practiced slavery. Persian Empire which abolished slavery in 550 BC was in fact far more tolerant and civilized nation, yet they were made villains. I didn't see you complain about that.

[@leeolie3728]

@@showa546 Read Barracoon and compare that to anything youve heard about the Spartans. Were the Spartans harsh? Yes. All empires of note are harsh and ruthless. But were they treacherous and stupid enough to sell their own countrymen and then finally tribes people for guns, liquor, mirrors and hands in marriage to white men? You also leave out that debt slavery or forced labor for crimes did exist in ancient and modern Persia well after that “official” decree. Sort of like slavery still exists and occurs to this day if one is convicted of a crime per the 13th amendment. I rest my case.

[@showa546]

@@leeolie3728 Spartans who killed babies whenever they didn't have desired traits vs kingdom which was enslaving people who belonged to different tribes and ethnicities like basically any other kingdom around the whole world. Greeks and Romans were also enslaving europeans from northren regions like germanic tribes or celtic tribes. Therefore stick your case up your ass.

[@showa546]

@@leeolie3728 So basically you call spartan tradition of killing babies as "harsh"? Are you psycho or what?

[@Noodlepunk]

They could have written this movie and had them be the bad guys. Main Characters don't have to be good! They can be evil or morally grey. But they have to rewrite history. They made the show Vikings and they were not good guys. The first scene is them raiding and murdering monks.

[@RadicalforGod]

They’re not bad guys that’s why. They were prisoners of war and did what they had to do to exist and remain relevant. They were big on saving their nation.

[@Agent-57]

My ass. They practiced cannibalism and ritual human sacrifice. @@RadicalforGod

[@bondson0094]

100% agree. Did you know the The Kingdom of Dahomey was responsible for 20% of all the slaves captured in the Transatlantic Slave trade. A great percentage of the slave population in the US, West Indies & Caribbean was a direct result of this Kingdoms involvement in the slave trade. The Dahomey worked in conjunction with European traders and profited off the capturing and selling of enslaved blacks. The Dahomey Kingdom became rich and very powerful as a result. Hollywood is now trying to make the Agojie (Woman King army.) look like super heroes....being fully aware of the popularity of Marvels ...the Black Panthers ( Dora Milaje ).....Black Panthers Female Royal Guard. The Dora Milaje is based off of the Agojie (Woman King army.) Of Course Hollywood is not going to mention this Kingdoms role in enslaving and profiting from the slave trade. Or that this Kingdom would often feature the mass execution of enslaved people for human sacrifice in Vodun ceremonies. I think something that profound should not be omitted or brushed aside... I cant glorify that ..its not about hating. in my opinion....If you are going to do a movie like this you need to spit the entire truth..just sayin.

[@Noodlepunk]

Yeah the characters didn't have to be good guys as well...

[@marissashantez6051]

Yeah, they were deeply hated by their neighbors for that reason.

[@marc789]

How hard would it has been to make the dahomey the bad guy and other weaker tribe the good guy fighting for their freedom.

[@SuperBullaMan]

Why was there Colonialism, after the transatlantic slave trade? The Romans had slaves. Yes African had slavery amongst themselves, but did they ensue mass genocide when they sold their people to Caucasians? Greed, profit, was the part of all monarchist led systems. The point is the Europeans came looking as the criminals they sent as indentured workers to Australia and the American colonies couldn't hack it. They created a monster! These women were strong despite failing in battle against the French who eventually colonized them. Africa would have been the same as China, Europe and America if their wasn't money and racial deceitful carnage, and bamboozlement and that the point...

[@argh432]

Look up the number of slaves that the dahomey sacerficed they killed more in one year than the kkk killed black people in 150.

[@h.a8681]

While their fight against the French was honourable,(as the French were invading large parts of Africa) the Dahomey failed miserably in combat against the French. From the wikipedia article on them "The Dahomey lost 86 regulars and 417 Dahomey Amazons, with nearly all of those deaths being inflicted by bayonets; the French lost 6 soldiers.". They were slave traders, psychopaths and after all that there combat performance was terrible. There are so many better stories from Africa to tell, I completely agree this is not one that should have been

[@MythDetect]

Yup that about sums it up. This story isn definitely not honorable. The king of Dahomey today still has painting of beheadings in his palace.

[@davidondiek7549]

Do you know how many battle the French fought with Dahomians on top of that they were using advanced weapons and remember they were fight women huh!

[@h.a8681]

@@davidondiek7549 The battle I am talking about was fought hand to hand, with the French almost only using their bayonets (knives) not rifles.

[@davidondiek7549]

@@h.a8681 what am saying is that you have to acknowledge that that kindom existed and it has engaged in battle even if they they didn't win all is the same thing with the 300 it was based on a true story but it was overrated which brought about underation of great Persian empire

[@joeparrigen4982]

@@davidondiek7549 Yeah but the Spartans held out for days and they inflicted major damage. The only reason they lost was because of betrayal.

[@WilliamNeish]

Great job educating people about the Dahomey amazons. As usual Hollywood is on the wrong side of history and in this case they just completely make it up and then put the “based on a true story” stamp on it.

[@earnthis1]

Hollywood is on the wrong side of history? lololololol ALL of Hollywood? Every movie? lolololol You hateful clowns are nonsensical!! lololol So you mean like how Gone with the Wind was on the wrong side of history? What about like...Schindler's List? Was that on the wrong side of history? What percent of Hollywood is on the wrong side of history?? lolololol 50%? 100%?? lololol Kids...

[@theguyarmada2178]

Who runs Hollywierd🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️ijs

[@alexurn2843]

Speak the truth!! I knew of the Dahomey tribe for years. Some history books say they were responsible for over 500,000 slaves shipped to the Americas. They also said the king would sacrifice thousands of prisoners at one time to appease his Gods. Keep preaching the truth brother.

[@fionnagrey2425]

I thought it was the Moors? I've read that it was the Moors. So much African history has been rewritten after the invasions of the European Colonizers and enslavers that it is close to impossible to trace back to those eras in our history. My old African American teacher in high school said our history has been hidden, rewritten, looted and stolen. So much so that most is fabricated. She was still teaching European history in African history because there wasn't enough information to give whether it be accurate or not. That was 2 decades ago and I still feel lost. I wish you can give me a bit more incite into this once vast kingdom considering the movie just came out in which everyone is mad and disdained about it glorifying racism and slavery.

[@brentjnofinn2307]

Y’all still believing these history books written by white men about black lives? Now if u tell me the history books from Africa say this then eff it

[@stephenmcdonagh2795]

I think there's this idea in the west that if you criticise a tribe in Africa, you're criticising the whole of Africa. Africa is a big place with many different races and tribes, this movie glorifies a bad tribe whilst ignoring the five tribes in the vicinity that were commonly victims of the Dahomey. Of all possible stories Africa has, they chose one of the worst tribes and tried to portray them as victims.

[@girlfiguringitout36]

@Javon Guerrier Bravo to you.

[@michaelraymon111]

@@stephenmcdonagh2795 why were you people ok with the 300

[@sherbenn]

I did research on this about eight years ago. Just like you said, I learned that the women could not marry and only the king could sleep with them. They were girls who were groomed. We can't celebrate that. The Dahomey Kingdom was also the last kingdom to end the slave trade. If I remember correctly it was around the 1850s. What black people have gone through in America and during the slave trade in Africa at the hands of Europeans was horrible. However, we can't just ignore the part that Africans played in their own demise.

[@amemalabo3598]

Exactly

[@tatz1160]

True

[@tyronerobertson7552]

When you say Africans that shit misleading and ignorant. Which country in Africa are you speaking of?

[@sherbenn]

@@tyronerobertson7552 Uhhh....Africans who participated in slavery. Nothing misleading or ignorant. Just truth.

[@tyronerobertson7552]

@@sherbenn I’m saying state the countries responsible. Africans is a vague word in regards to who’s who and who’s who is important when placing the blame.

[@Xarias]

Glad you put this out. The narrative around this movie is disgusting. The woke critics are gushing over this fantasy story.

[@MythDetect]

Oh yeah the wokes are loving this twisted narrative

[@Yconntection]

@@MythDetect in China we call things like this "Historical nihilism"

[@demikpre]

Anit no way. Why would they lie like that?!?! I wanted to see the movie, until I saw the comments mentioning the actual history

[@Yconntection]

@@demikpre America is the body of lie. brainwash people with fake history through Hollywood.

[@AlSween]

Learn what the word woke means.

[@JenniferVeterans4truth]

I honestly believe that this is Hollywood's way of openly mocking black men especially descendants of slavery and unfortunately most of them won't even realize it cuz they don't know the history I think you did a great job on this video.

[@MythDetect]

That’s right I also see how it could be mocking. Thank you so much.

[@0h0hJ0i]

I agree. Hollywood hates men

[@capoislamort100]

what the hell would you know about black men and their needs, white lady?!?

[@joshchung2178]

Your profile pic mocks you and you don’t even Realize it🤣 Worry about YOUR kind, Sucker 🇫🇷👎 I’m sure you Fools have enough problems, chump.

[@conradmurry]

I agree with you

[@Ross.8219]

I appreciate the honest take on this. I knew of Dahomey’s history before the movie came out and was just shocked when I saw the trailer

[@stefkadank-derpjr1453]

I remember when my daughter was in Catholic school she was required to read Zora Neale Hurston's "The Story of The Last Slave". I of course read it with her in the evenings and learned a lot and was turned onto Hurston's work. I was completely scratching my head when Viola Davis was promising this as a sort of Black Female empowerment film. Honestly I can not believe she did not know the history of this tribe and it's connection to slavery. Is it possible these writers who wrote the story promoted it to her and she didn't take the time to do ANY research? It find that absolutely impossible so what was her goal? She aligned herself to them by taking the staring role. Really odd.

[@env0x]

well to be fair, Viola Davis is an actor not a writer, it's not her responsibility to research this stuff it's the writers. especially when they present the film as being based on true events. but given that the writers were 2 white women it makes sense they wouldn't know or care about the history of Africans.

[@leomoore3597]

Can you believe ? She may have taken the part for the just for the money, Hollywood is not in the business of enlightening anyone !

[@jermaineyoung1214]

There's nothing odd about it.Its called getting the 💰💰💰💰💰💰💰

[@env0x]

@Schlingel Bingel my point was it's not the actors job or responsibility to know the history. it's the job of the writers. the writers happen to be white which also means they have no personal incentive to know the history, as it does not benefit them in any personal way to know african history. black people are putting their trust in two white writers to teach them african history, and i just find that hilarious and ironic.

[@env0x]

@Schlingel Bingel i admit i don't know much about african history. i am white, but i do enjoy reading the history of all different nations around the world. African history is not something i know much about, but i'm also not making a movie about it and trying to sell it to black folks as if i had the authority to do that.

[@aliasrose]

I read Barracoon, and I thought instantly of that part of the story when he mentioned the female warriors who raided his village when I saw the trailer for this movie.

[@oekmama]

I learned this in school in the Caribbean, but I forgot. And I didn’t make the connection with this film, coz I couldn’t believe this cast would make such a film. It’s pretty much survivors’ descendants making a film lauding some of the perpetrators.

[@SuperBullaMan]

Why was there Colonialism, after the transatlantic slave trade? The Romans had slaves. Yes African had slavery amongst themselves, but did they ensue mass genocide when they sold their people to Caucasians? Greed, profit, was the part of all monarchist led systems. The point is the Europeans came looking as the criminals they sent as indentured workers to Australia and the American colonies couldn't hack it. They created a monster! These women were strong despite failing in battle against the French who eventually colonized them. Africa would have been the same as China, Europe and America if their wasn't money and racial deceitful carnage, and bamboozlement and that the point...

[@oekmama]

@@SuperBullaMan I‘m afraid I do not understand your comment. I will just repeat that I agree with this video producer. Peace and blessings.

[@mayloo2137]

I'd think the descendants would be ashamed by their ancestors' true history.

[@oekmama]

@@mayloo2137 I heard that the government of Benin has apologized for those ancestors‘ actions anf participation.

[@mayloo2137]

@@oekmama i wonder how many of the descendants in the US know that. They seem to have a very one-sided view of slavery where the only people blamed for it are white people.

[@lulittle8824]

So there were maybe 100 movies done about Queen Elizabeth I, glorifying her when she oversaw a kingdom that burned people alive, drew and quartered them, fighting the French with everything she had with England engaging in Barbaric tactics against France, Films about France being glorious in the past while they engaged in the same barbarism with their neighbors and their OWN people draw no calls for a boycott. Yet here we are with black folks tearing down a film, not even understanding the history of the entire continent. ALL African kingdoms had slavery ALL kingdoms exploited their OWN CITIZENS. This is the plight of humanity and bad character in our species. Africans didn't have a concept of being "BLACK," They were Hausa, Fulani, Yoruba, Fon, Cru etc....The Yoruba which was a great kingdom helped the British burn down Benin City. Mansa Musa the richest man in human history, king of ancient Mali walked 10,000 slaves across the dessert, carrying his gold to Egypt. Is he evil ? Do we not deserve to see movies about him? This is history, nuanced and complicated. And AA don't understand enough about Africa to digest the complexity of history. Again they were NOT BLACK, they were FON people from Dahomey. They were RUTHLESS as were the ROMANS and VIKINGS who are celebrated in film over and over. This expectation of us needing to have a PERFECT narrative is ONLY required for us by us. I bet you won't be boycotting a VIKING or ROMAN film. Tear this down so you can keep receiving slave drama's, Soul singer biopics and tired Martin Luther King, singing on a Freedom Bus biopics SMH

[@sadisticon]

I would appreciate it if you would just copy-paste this to every KZbin forum on this topic! This is spot-on. And while I have no enmity to my Euro-peons, fuck the hideous, brutal, sadistic Romans, Vikings and French!

[@Mica-rv5eg]

Finally, a realist!! NO ONES HISTORY IS NEAT AND CLEAN. EVERY CIVILZATION HAS ITS PRIDE AND SHAME THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENT as a Black Historian always teaching and always learning , I too don't agree with speaking against this film.

[@robertmarley8852]

Listen homie we American Indians over here ain't got shit to do with Africa u dig

[@Rikocartwright21]

Thank you!!!!

[@Renzee-ct4wz]

I don't think people are tearing down this film because of the slavery past this tribe had. I think the criticism stems towards the producers pushing wokeness and a feminist/hotep/left wing narrative to the masses that people are fed up with.

[@keelhe893]

I understand your point of view but who in history was a pure hero vs villain? We have watched other cultures and groups celebrated in film from modern warfare to samurai etc and we spent money and supported it. I think it’s great to highlight african stories regardless of if we see them as hero or foe. We need to see blacks as complex in cinema and not one dimensional. The movie itself made many people research this tribe and learn more about history mainly that the slave trade was complex and Europeans weren’t the only villains … so I can’t complain

[@natalyd9674]

So does Birth of a Nation or any white supremacist version of Nazi Germany. Do we need to see their "complexity"?

[@Bigbnfgv]

I know right?! ..wtf is wrong with people

[@atwilsonjr]

It's disgusting that you're okay with false history being sold to the youth as truth period. The only reason the feminazis of hollyweird is behind this type of movie is to support a misandry against black men.

[@tvs9978]

Well said

[@gwarren6386]

Christ was and is.

[@starkilr101]

As soon as the trailer for the movie drops, I knew exactly what it was. Being a history buff does indeed have its perks. Excellent video, by the way

[@earnthis1]

lololololol!!! You imagine yourself a history buff? So tell me...how is the movie not historical? kids...

[@livxyolivia]

“being a history buff” shut up.

[@SGriTa913]

@@earnthis1 What are you 15? Why must so many people on the internet have responses with a condescending tone? Is this how you talk to people in real life? If so, it must suck not having any friends. Everything isn't a joke. You are disrespecting this man without even knowing his educational background.

[@paleoph6168]

@@livxyoliviausername checks out.

[@paleoph6168]

@@earnthis1who said it wasn't historical?

[@tonyas8872]

Took a movie for anyone to even have a conversation! Lmao

[@KDH-oc4tx]

It did, I'm glad we now know the truth. We know who the author of the lies is 👿

[@MrsTephillips]

I love it I always wondered why blacks act like Africans didn’t participate in slavery? The fact that it was women makes this even more believable.

[@uchenna127]

No body acts like anything, the reality is, the vast majority of the slaves, didn't come from African participation in the trade. Only around 30%+ came from Kingdoms like Dahomey. The rest came from slave raids, and colonial conquest in Central Africa.

[@alejandroabreha4516]

@@uchenna127 come on bro. Be real. More selling than kidnapping

[@uchenna127]

@@alejandroabreha4516 Most of the slaves came to the Americas as a result of Portuguese colonial conquest in Africa.

[@koudousmoutairou6074]

@@uchenna127 do you know that many of the so called researchers are just jokesters.

[@garykarr1421]

@@uchenna127 only 30%??

[@mecurian485]

Been reading up on these women. They weren't especially successful at war, and only "won" against ill-equipped villagers whom they took by surprise. The Dahomey battles against neighboring powers were lost, (which was in fact why they recruited women as they had lost too many men) and when facing the French they were armed with Winchester rifles, but clearly had little idea how to use them effectively as they fired from the hip rather than from the shoulder. Though the French said they were brave they were routed.

[@koudousmoutairou6074]

You should read again

[@mecurian485]

@@koudousmoutairou6074 🤣🤣🤣

[@npcimknot958]

yup. they won cause they attacked weaker peaceful tribes. they got guns. that's it. I don't think they had a shaping martial arts training facility. they just needed tonknow how to load a bullet.

[@oliverwells8011]

They fired from the hip bc the kick of the gun was too much for the "strong" women to handle.....

[@koudousmoutairou6074]

@@oliverwells8011 oh again you just had to bypass the training they did with the weapon why don't you do more research before saying anything

[@donphilp7511]

The strange thing is if they had made the movie Historically accurate And told the whole story they would have been the toast of the world. They would have had worldwide praise And not an empty seat in the theater.

[@sharilondon88]

This movie has made $76 million . Not too many empty seats. Stop hatin'. So typical of BM

[@donphilp7511]

@@sharilondon88 You mean the movie we have to watch or we aint black. You mean the movie that they say cost 50 million 50 million to make but they do not include the the cost of promotion. You mean the movie written by 2 white women who didn't know the history. You mean the movie that started off being promoted as a true story and it's now even by the actors and actresses promoted as a fictional story. You mean the movie that has the faked Rotten tomato score of 93%.

[@sharilondon88]

@@donphilp7511 Get over it! Again it's a movie. Put some of that energy into reducing the murder rate among BM instead of complaining because it's in a movie. Who said that you have to watch it? BM are some serious haters. Seriously, The fake outrage is annoying !!!

[@donphilp7511]

@@sharilondon88 So is Viola Davis telling telling me if I don't watch it I aint black. This could have been a milestone movie and instead it's a perpetuation of lies and woke woke horse shit. If people from the community don't speak up against this kind of crap they'll get away with it. Every drip of a lie is poison to the community.

[@Neema150]

There is nothing more popular in the American entertainment industry than the topic of African Americans shifting their attention away from talking about the discrimination they face in America to turning against one another instead.😒

[@matthewmclees4105]

Absolutely brilliant content I'm only about 1 minute into this and I've already subscribed to this channel. This man's story is heartbreaking and fascinating to me. And I'm so glad that there is people willing to research actual history instead of just jumping on board with a mob of angry people that lack morals and don't even know what they're talking about most of the time because they never bothered to actually study the very thing that they say they are so strongly fighting for or against

[@GhostSal]

What the film left out: Their way of life being kílling their neighbors, enslavíng the survívors, mass human sacrífice and canníbalism. Their fíght was about keeping this way of life (that had been going on in Afríca for thousands of years). The main conflíct with whíte Europeans during King Ghezo's reign came through the efforts of the British to bring an end to the słave trade, human sacrifíce and canníbalism. “The słave trade has been the ruling principle of my people. It is the source of their glory and wealth. Their songs celebrate their victories and the mother lulls the child to sleep with notes of triumph over an enemy reduced to slavery." - King Ghezo (King of Dahomey).

[@gwarren6386]

Thank you for the quote. It just proves the point. Nothing to be glorified. The fact that such info is out there means someone didn’t do their research. Pathetic.

[@Christystcyrallen]

Just saw the movie tonight and loved it until learning the real truth.

[@REXS10]

@@Christystcyrallen Same here. Just saw the movie and loved it until learning the real truth also.

[@deal1052]

@@Christystcyrallen You can still like the movie and show Hollywood we want more like it. Boys in the Hood and American Gangster are not meant to glorify drugs or gangs and are not 100% factual. They open the conversation and share a sliver of a subculture many have not seen. Then it can get more people talking and researching. This is WAY better than the thousands of white-washed cultural movies. Those should not be glorified.

[@MrSilus2000]

It’s sad how many people cite colonizer written history and accept it as fact.

[@someguyyouknow6420]

I have mixed feelings. On one hand I believe it’s fine to romanticize them as warriors, as we do this for every other culture, ie samurais, Vikings, the mayans, Romans, cowboys, etc. But it’s one thing to do that, and it’s another to take history twist it and turn it into some bad guy vs good guy to fit some propaganda.

[@oluwoleolubajo3340]

I am yoruba. There is a story of one of the yoruba kingdoms going to war with the empire of Dahomey. The soldiers ended up fighting the Amazons of Dahomey and did not realize it. They were defeated but captured some of the Dahomey soldiers and retreated to their camp. Intention I guess was to torture them to retrieve information for the war campaign. When they stripped of the clothes of the captive. To there surprise they realised that they had been defeated by a female army. The next time they clashed with the Empire of Dahomey. They were motivated fighters and did everything they could to defeat the empire. I think it was the egba kingdom. They lost the first round but made sure they won the 2nd round. The Amazons were the elite force that protected the king of Dahomey.

[@klarkmartinez1124]

thank you for sharing this.

[@streetprophet007]

The Dahomey kingdom used to be under the Oyo empire, we're all Yoruba's, came from Egypt /middle east

[@dandamuxima]

@@streetprophet007 Oyo, land of Bàbá mi Sango. I'm going to watch the movie in 30 minutes. Hope I can take something good from it. E kaale

[@kwmonters1]

The movies was good. I thought it was telling the story of those strong women. “Base on the fact that they were powerful women who actually existed” was the matter I took from it. I can’t understand how we will find a way to tire down anything we produce. And, do so publicly🤦🏽‍♀️ The older I become the more understand we’re the “crabs in the barrel” makes more sense to me. 😢

[@streetprophet007]

@@kwmonters1 its was a good movie, but these Hollywood directors, pinched in some lies against true history

[@e-maginne]

They absolutely laid this out in the movie. They told the truth. That was a huge part of the movie, them capturing people and trading with the Europeans. The movie absolutely stated that’s where their wealth came from. At least someone is trying to tell a story from Africa. I agree, we need more, much more, but this is one of them and this is a start.

[@AshleyMagnolia_]

I couldn’t agree more. Posts like this really set us back and give white cinema an excuse to not let us tell our stories the way they need to be told. Plus, it’s clear the people sharing this information didn’t see the film and know it was very clearly laid out. Disappointing but as to be expected from us.

[@Omnitrix8]

Thanks for clarifying!

[@keithcoleman6752]

@@AshleyMagnolia_ listen, we sent scouts out and they reported back to us. This movie is full of crap!

[@NallahBrown]

Thank you! The most balanced comment in this section! People loveee to critic and throw stones.. I want everyone who has corrections for this film to try and round up a production team and cast to make their own film! Shit ain't easy .... it's never enough for some people. I'm all for speaking power to truth but it must be in a balanced way

[@keithcoleman6752]

@@AshleyMagnolia_ from what I gather non-blacks told our story. Glorifying traitorous barbarians. 1700-1800 c. version of black-on-black crime. SMH

[@redwing9]

Thanks for this perspective. I have mixed feelings about the movie. It was well-made, but it does distort history by projecting 21st century sensibilities upon the Dahomey "Amazons,." It does reference the slave raids and beheadings, but fleetingly and in a highly toned down way. I might be mistaken but I don't remember any references to the hundreds of captives they would behead in Dahomey's annual ceremony. The story you related from one of their victims was a reality that wouldn't have made the movie characters very sympathetic. Again, my feelings are mixed. The Woman King is a piece of mythology loosely based upon history. If people want historical accuracy, Hollywood is the last place they should look. But, sadly, people often mistake what they see on the screen as the real story. Perhaps something good will come out of this in that people will read books such as the one you recommended. God bless.

[@MythDetect]

Well said. Thank you.

[@mercilessforever]

Its not about accuracy. It’s about Hollywood glorifying and paying tribute to this savage clan of murderers and slavers

[@bytescents7074]

Agreed, well made film but disappointed to hear this news. But what interesting is, there's very little outage about so many other films that are grossly inaccurate as well. Very few are accurate unless the person film being made about is on set

[@elleinthea1678]

Im glad someone is finally talking about this. I honestly didn’t realize that other Africans actively took part in the Atlantic slave trade until I went to Zanzibar and learned the history of the Arab slave trade. I actually feel the opposite though. I think Black people need to understand the REAL history and everyone part in the slave trade. People are gray… there are people who do great heroic actions but are low key problematic too. We need the full picture not Hollywood glamorization.

[@Jayee9999]

These women were demonic!

[@MythDetect]

Unfortunately they were trained and raised from an early age to be merciless

[@spookystories1407]

Excuse me you are demonic for saying that!

[@koudousmoutairou6074]

Demonic and not those that enslaved their children?

[@Ronniepmr]

Agreed

[@panafricanismstrikesback]

Just like women now.

[@tehmu]

I’m glad you put this together.

[@d.jackson2560]

Wow I didn’t know all this but realized while watching the movie what was going on…I still think the acting in this movie was superb 👍🏼

[@MrCaveman74]

I would assume this is not much different than the glorification of Vikings and Spartans which both have sports teams utilize them as mascots.

[@nunyabusiness1317]

black people always take everything personal and to heart

[@tandafadel1127]

I don't really know about Viking and Spartans, but in the case of Dahomey there are still people present here remembering that and knowing that they betrayed and kill countless people descendant of these victims are still there and seeing there oppresser rebranding their story and trying to make it look like they were hero. It difficult to accept not personal

[@bobbysledge2290]

@@nunyabusiness1317 So does every other race.

[@Unbound_Soul7]

@@nunyabusiness1317 facts it seems anything with women sticking together or a mishap in something as if everything is gold which isn’t.

[@daughterofdiaspora]

@@tandafadel1127 Let’s discuss deeper. What do you know about The Oyo Empire in the 17th-18 century?

[@erikaluciani4135]

So when will we get a movie about African history/events that doesn't involve slavery and that is actually accurate?😭

[@A_U83]

🔥 But it won't happen anytime soon. Black trauma is big business 😞

[@johnatherton878]

At least you got the history right! Some sources for those interested: * Amazons of Black Sparta, 2nd Edition: The Women Warriors of Dahomey Paperback - April 11, 2011 by Stanley B. Alpern (Author) * Wives of the Leopard: Gender, Politics, and Culture in the Kingdom of Dahomey Paperback - July 29, 1998 by Edna G. Bay (Author)

[@dirtyred1460]

They were also a fallen state. That’s why there was so many women.

[@lyonahjudah1549]

Exactly and they used sexual advances to entrap men.

[@npcimknot958]

in another world that would be ev3ry guys fantasy lol

[@marcoslightspeed5517]

@@npcimknot958 they were savages

[@anjerenea]

The movie was pretty much about their role in the slave trade though! It turned into a story about nanisi and her daughter, but in the movie it depicted them as ruthless warriors who made their kingdom money slave trading.

[@theobnoxiousguy3425]

This movie was made to rub it in black people face.

[@spearfisherman308]

No it doesn’t their kingdom was built on slavery.

[@anjerenea]

@@spearfisherman308 "it depicted them as ruthless warriors who made their kingdom money slave trading," as I said. Furthermore, they were not heros and the movie was very well made. Also, don't refer to movies for history lessons.

[@spearfisherman308]

@@anjerenea except it doesn't and if it was historically accurate they would be the villains not the French.

[@anjerenea]

@@spearfisherman308 I understand what you're saying. But it is a mistake to look toward Hollywood for education. Also, the majority of Black Americans don't even know who the Dahomey were prior to this film. The film is celebrated in America likely because it is rare to see black characters in positions of power.

[@daquetreed5522]

Notice how they only fought peaceful tribes. They knew full well they were no match for male warrior tribes.

[@goodfather2894]

Every time the woman king was on her period bleeding, they raided another village

[@dianasohn2515]

It actually wasn’t all women it was African male kings in charge but they allowed women to fight. It was just as many men in the this army. Everyone just focus on the women cse at the time women were not in the army

[@AfrikanLifestyle]

On point my dear brother...You pieced together and made whole a lot of the information I read over...Thanks for putting this together...

[@theblackdemon4998]

Excellent report. And yeah this movie is a no for me as well.

[@MythDetect]

Thank you

[@loredelamore]

I think "Beast" would be a better film to go watch, a father protecting his children from a man-eating lion. kzbin.info/www/bejne/pYKwlGqJpphpo6s

[@niyahnoire]

What’s the name of the movie?

[@theblackdemon4998]

@@niyahnoire I think it's called the"The Woman King"? Viola Davis is the main star of the movie.

[@moni_artist]

Y’all do realize you can be a hero fighting to protect your tribe and your people and ALSO someone’s villain. The film acknowledges this. Acknowledges their involvement in the slave trade AND ALSO their struggle to exit the trade once it became truly understood that it wasn’t going to protect them in the end.

[@shn1804]

They were forced to exit the trade by bayonet fire. They had very little issues with it otherwise they coulve done it earlier. They wanted to keep being rich so they raided innocent or oppressed villages under their reign.

[@natalyd9674]

So I guess you're okay with any revisionist portrayal of Hitler as a "good" German protecting his people?

[@Wyatt6661]

No 😂they made the king the black man bad not the females who was doing the killing

[@tandafadel1127]

Actually they didn't fight against the French because they wanted to exit slavery. The clash begin not between Guezo and the brain French but between Behanzin and the French. Before Behanzin Glele had an agreement with the French on putting The coastal village of Cotonou on rent the price was X amount of 💰. After Glele death Behanzin took the Throne and wanted to rewrite the contract to have more gain. But the French didn't want that because they wanted to stay on the first agreement which was at their advantage. King Behanzin didn't like that so he ask them to take the new terms or leave that's were the war begin. Slave trade wasn't an issue their. In fact during their war against the french Dahomer keep aggressing small villages and kingdom to have more men and more slave.

[@jemazondo9331]

Nice try.

[@KhadijatouDoyneh]

The definition of WARRIORS is exactly all of the points you are complaining about. We live in the reality of the AFTERMATH of all of the Continents messy trading & including the rulers part in capturing people that were enslaved for profit. The whole African continent was fighting not only each other, but the Europeans, who had later agreed to carve up the place and to assume absolute control, after all of that. It’s nothing that we can go back in time and do anything about. We have now got a lot more resources to learn about what that period in history was… I can’t undo my Family’s pain if anybody’s Family’s pain by looking back and blaming one group of Warriors. The shock for many people is mostly the extent at which Africans on the Continent depended upon the wealth they got from their part in ‘The Slave Trade’. It is all very painful. There is almost no point trying to single out one Woman Warriors as the ultimate bad man. They were Warriors doing what Warriors did. We are here to learn from the past. We can change our selves, our here & our now.

[@Ahnjay_2k]

Very well said

[@chiquitodaviii2913]

I'm reading Clotilda: The Last Slave Ship. The mentioned Baracoon. Holy shit! I'm over here thinking the Aztecs had crazy history. Dahomey was scary!

[@ziondaking6345]

Hollywood didn’t rewrite the history lol😂 they spoke on everything he saying

[@kay9156]

Of course he didn't watch the movie as I predicted! Thank you for calling attention to it, I feel more justified of having not watched this video 😂

[@tandafadel1127]

@@kay9156 he just reacted to the trailers

[@dGuthrie1-hc2rx]

No they did not clown

[@raiderblue4070]

They should do a remake of Shaka Zulu

[@factsondeck1552]

If he ain’t a woman then they don’t want to hear it.

[@raiderblue4070]

@@factsondeck1552 fucc them bitches! Still make it happen Don't bow down

[@toniblunt2906]

Yeah it's about time. That would be a good movie

[@A_U83]

No history comes without tradegy, Shaka killed millions to expand the Zulu nation. He even ordered the death of pregnant women after his mum died.

[@anthonyosburn3786]

Were did you get your information from. Very interesting.

[@showa546]

This movie kinda reminds me of 300. Spartans were made heroes and persians were villains, even though they practiced slavery and had such horrible customs compared to persians. I guess it was never about who is worse. Maybe the point is that weak kingdom stood up to stronger empire? Also out of all West African empires/kingdoms they had to pick this one just because it had amazonians?

[@kengem5528]

I understand what you are saying. In America and only in America do we get the whole story only AFTER something controversial comes to light. In supported this movie financially because of black women. Now others will discuss the whole story.

[@jaybirdjaybird9410]

They were still dealing slaves when the French and British were fighting to shut it down. The preformed human sacrifices as well.

[@TheOriginalRasheedat]

This comment seems to glorify Europeans because they tried to stop it but they started in the first place.

[@SuperBullaMan]

Why was there Colonialism, after the transatlantic slave trade? The Romans had slaves. Yes African had slavery amongst themselves, but did they ensue mass genocide when they sold their people to Caucasians? Greed, profit, was the part of all monarchist led systems. The point is the Europeans came looking as the criminals they sent as indentured workers to Australia and the American colonies couldn't hack it. They created a monster! These women were strong despite failing in battle against the French who eventually colonized them. Africa would have been the same as China, Europe and America if their wasn't money and racial deceitful carnage, and bamboozlement and that the point..

[@jaybirdjaybird9410]

@@SuperBullaMan yes they had mass genocide. The Congo is still the rape capital of the world. Rwanda 🇷🇼 has had horrific rape and murder and gennocide. Somalia 🇸🇴 still has piracy. Some African countries still deal humans to the Middle East… Slave labor for the soccer fields and insane architecture.

[@jaybirdjaybird9410]

@@SuperBullaMan King Mansa Musa was the richest man in history. At one point traveled with 12,000 slaves. Look at Monrovia. Blood diamonds. White farmers from South Africa are having issues right now but I’m sure they deserved it from years of Apartheid.

[@jaybirdjaybird9410]

@@SuperBullaMan 2000 British Navy died fighting on the high seas trying to end the slave trade while African Kings had prisoners locked in cages on the beach. Perhaps the descendants of the African royals should pay reparations to the descendants of those who were sold.

[@jurgenvonjessica4656]

Would love some links or info in description to guide me to where your pics and info has come from, besides the one book you showed a cover of. Very thorough info. Would love a solid jumping off place to learn more.

[@BlueSkyCountry]

Also, the title of this movie "The Woman King", is sexist, misogynistic, and excludes all other genders. In order to be more inclusive, they should have titled it "The Birthing-Person Monarch".

[@MichaelSmith-ef7si]

Thanks for sharing, great true black history to know.

[@loredelamore]

Every race of mankind has done dirty evil actions in the past, not just white, not just black, all race of man. It is the nature of the beast and when we finally acknowledge our short comings, hopefully we can all work together to overcome it.

[@Yconntection]

holly sht as a Chinese im suprised that there are American know this lol when i first saw this Dahomey movie trailer i was like holly sht no way! the Hollywood having a movie glorifiing these slave dealers

[@fernandez5998]

Why on earth didn't they make a film about Njinga, Queen of Angola who tried with all her might to liberate her people from the slave trade.

[@SatansSimgma]

There is an African movie version of her you can find on line. But slavery is not an issue for them, slavery is as natural as having a King. It had been going on thousands of years before the whites showed up.

[@captain4053]

All I will say is the movie itself was good viola davis was great in her acting abilities and she looked great while doing it. She made 56 look nice, With that said its not accurate. They tried to make the dahomey more abolitionist when it came to slavery, like they had an awakening moment to say we need to do better when in reality they were raiding neighboring cities and villages. Expanding their Empire And those that were taken captive, whether they'd be men children and women they were sold into slavery. Now I say this after doing my own research online who's to know what the mindset was of the dahomey back then, maybe they did and were on the verge of stopping their part in the trans Atlantic slave trade. History is a giant its easy to criticize after the journey has been made and you're looking back over the hill at the path that was taken to get were you are today. All I can say is for a civilized empire they should have known better than to sale humans. I still enjoyed the movie for the entertainment value not for the accuracy's or lack of them you should go into it with the mindset of an entertainment action movie type situation that's all. Still love viola davis she can do no wrong in her acting career 😍Lashana Lynch was my movie crush John Boyega played his role nicely.

[@jlawsl]

I agree with some of that but, then I would also say this: America, as a civilized country should have known better and we do know the mindset of the people back then. Most of the USA and before, when they were colonies, had already outlawed slavery. There was a civil war to stop it, yet we still hear about it and things like reparations today. Should descendants of slavery in the USA and other countries on this side of the world be paid reparations from the nations that descended from those kingdoms? It would make sense to pay a large portion of it because they were the original criminals. It is a weird question to ask, but these days, information is more available then its ever been so that we can call out bad history when we see it. In 1915, Birth of a Nation was hugely successful as it portrayed President Lincoln as being friendly to the South and portrayed the Ku Klux Klan as protectors of America. Among other things, it is said to be the most racist movie every made in America. For the time, it was well made, revolutionary in filmography and considered groundbreaking in the movie industry. That is where we run into an issue. Just because something is well made, had a moving musical score and good actors does not mean that the message behind it is terrible. Its historic revisionism to make the some of the most reviled groups in history into heroes and it effects the common person's thoughts and views on the subject. The normal, layman does not bother looking up a film's history if it says it is based on "historical events". They accept it as a source of actual history. That is where we come to the Woman King. In the exact same way that Birth of a Nation made a group of former slave owners and racist into the heroes of the movie, the Woman King has done the same. This film glorifies a kingdom and actual historical figures that warred with, enslaved, sold and conducted human sacrifice upon the people of the surrounding lands. Not only does it lie about the role of Dahomey in slavery but it also elevates them as heroic defenders against European slavers. When in reality, it was the British that blockaded their ports to slave trade when they insisted that they wanted to continue and it was the French that finally beat them militarily and abolished it. Then, in Hollywood fashion, they are shown to be far more effective then they were against the French or British, which beat them crushingly in every major engagement. TLDR: In my opinion, one could say that The Woman King is a veiled modern version of Birth of a Nation in its historical accuracy and the portrayal of evil people as heroes.

[@feliciadogbe1313]

@@jlawsl, I see your point. Dangerous move when such portrayals happen. That said, it highlights how important it is to really do research on our own at all times.

[@captain4053]

@@jlawsl well slavery has never been truly abolished pipeline to prison system but that's another type of conversation. Yes history shows that they were still enslaving their captures and selling them by the fall of the empire, but what I was trying to say is who knows maybe there could have been a few of them who thought differently and wanted to make a change we don't know all we have to go one is the Documentation that they used to write the script. Viola davis and Gina Prince-Bythewood had a Q and A where they said they read notes and logs from that time frame describing the dahomey women (Amazon's of the black Sparta) . Viola said she had to ignore the parts of it describing them as animals and other bigot associations with their appearance. Of course i am Paraphrasing, Like i said maybe just maybe there was something in those notes that suggested a culture change just wasn't able to get to that point before the fall of the empire who knows. Anyways here is the link to the Q and A if anyone was interested kzbin.info/www/bejne/jV7TYp9or9tle8U

[@bettyeporter1315]

Who cares what she looked like. She didn't do her homework. Apparently none of them did except 1 actress and I don't blame her for not participating in the movie. I always knew some parts of Africa was the cause of our ancestors being here. Well put together and we'll said. I would not spend 10 cents to watch movie. Why are they being glorified...for murdering and selling their own out?

[@robertrankin8031]

sellout

[@christinewilliams4846]

It is said that Viola Davis spent 5 years working on this movie and it's no way she missed this information. She didn't write the script (2) White women did 💔 There were 2 " Black" people and (2) White women as the producers. Lypita Nyong was working on it and later dropped out because she couldn't handle it. I think once she knew the TRUTH she would not do it. I agree with you 100% that this movie should not be glorified and many on Twitter are boycotting it, and I am one.

[@RadicalforGod]

White people should not be writing our history.

[@loganbaileysfunwithtrains606]

Nyong read the history for the role and backed out

[@Jrocc811]

Viola took the bag. Thats all there is to it. Just like BLM founders.

[@karisma2482]

The movie didn’t focus on the slave trade, it focused more on the female army themselves. We already know Africans sold Africans. We really don’t need another slave driven movie.

[@christinewilliams4846]

@@karisma2482 True we don't need another slave trade movie but this so-called female/male army is built around the slave trade and to try and dismiss how brutal they were to other Africans and how they sold their captives to others( "White") can not be ignored. These women are nothing to glorify in my opinion but be to ashamed of. And NEVER honored. Mistreating others just for money 🤑,guns ect from the Whites is a sign of betrayal to the motherland. These women/men are no heroes except to the King they served.

[@SimsChannel09]

Could you provide links to your sources? I love the content you just shared. I’m about to go down a “rabbit hole” On this one

[@JohnMiller123]

Powerful video. Thank you, Brother! Were there any men defending the villages raided by the Dahomey?

[@koolblue6927]

After listening to your video I am outraged at the rewriting of history Hollywood has done. You are a beacon of light telling the truth.

[@Missfee27]

How many times has Hollywood rewritten history and wrote Black people clean out of it. Now we are outraged?

[@koolblue6927]

@@Missfee27 The Trailer says "based on a true story" The Dahomey ravaged their own people. This movie says they were trying to save them from slavery. That's some rewrite.

[@eugeneflores6153]

@@koolblue6927 true, those white folks who work at that movie are changing it

[@vmbay2212]

@@rebeccarambo2893 Yep…stay Woke.

[@calincretu335]

Great stuff man.

[@360wave1]

Great video fam, i knew something was off about this movie ; the title was the main concern for me.

[@sebastianbolt7886]

Best channel I have found 2022,well done young man, unless we know the truth from all aspects of how HUMANS treat one another we will always be devided by colour and religion. Superb job on all your episodes.

[@m1k238]

Love the content, the volume could be louder.

[@MythDetect]

Thanks. I’ll work on that

[@ancientfuture9690]

Human, human...all too human. I honestly believe that if any other group had consistently developed the kind of tech that the Europeans did, they too would've gone out and exploited the weaker for their own advances.

[@MythDetect]

History's shown its human nature time and time again.

[@LeviathanSpeaks1469]

Europeans only got lucky because their continent had more natural resources (coal, timber, pack animals, etc.) to work with. Guns, Germs, and Steel by Neil Diamond is the most honest assessment of the ages of exploration and colonization and the only people who attack it are either white supremacists or black revisionists…

[@ancientfuture9690]

@@LeviathanSpeaks1469 I've heard of this book. I'll give it a read. And yes, luck is an element in life that we often do forget when it comes to our success, or in this case..."success".

[@therobertspot4840]

The Chinese did develop the technology. But they didn't go out and exploit the world.

[@MythDetect]

@@therobertspot4840 ???? Are you aware of what there doing in Africa. Africas third "colonizer" is at work.

[@jpyramjd]

Share this video with everyone.

[@K1ngq4t]

Dear Internet-experts of the Danhomey kingdom : it is not a documentary, it's just a movie. Viola and the production made a terrible mistake by not telling people it was a fiction and by guilt-tripping people into watching it. But also it seems people were already looking for a reason to express their hate of the feminist cause. Anything is good for them to practice cancel culture. Ask yourself what is it exactly that is making you mad. Is it worth it ? Will it still be worth it in 1 month ? Many things were inaccurate in the movie, but is it the first time this happens ? In thousands of "traditional" movies where women characters were treated like shit, and men's power exagerated, nobody seemed to be upset. Now people are complaining about feminist movies tearing men down to build female characters up. It must suck to be treated like women have been for ages, we can relate to this part. As a descendant of Dahomean culture currently living in Benin, I know and we all know the movie was fictionnal. No real Danhomènou can be called Nanisca, queer people if they existed would have to hide and no queen (no other human) sits near the King's throne or on the same level as him. They sit on the ground. And no woman in that time would dare to speak back to or behind her man, let alone the King. Oh they agojie were not that strong they got their asses whooped by the french. Well think again. Machetes v rifles, who wins ? Ooh Dahomeans were savages, there were violent, they sacrificed human. Yes we know. Look up the origins and ethymology of the very name Dan-xomin. It means "In the belly of Dan". Read the story, at least I hope that one was told right on the internet. Violence was not something they were ashamed of. They saw it as bravery, they used it to keep enemies at bay. They ruled by fear. Just like countless tribes all over the world did. Yes they traded slaves. And for any trade to take place, you need offer and demand ! Visiting the slave route at Ouidah and being told a part of the history or reading internet articles written by the colonizers does not make you an expert. What are y'all perfect people stoning Viola for really ? Is it because of the way she presented it or is there some deeper reason and this event happened to be a catalyst ? Are you complaining about the Vickings or Genghis or Pre-columbian human sacrifices or even what the US did to native americans? Are you boycotting every single movie romanticizing those things or is only this one? People are just repeating what everybody is saying it what they read on internet to sound smart. But how bored do we have to be to take this at heart and put so much energy in destroying "a movie" when women are killed in Iran for BS and there's a litteral war in Ukraine ? It's only a movie, this is entertainment ! If you know the absolute truth because you were there during the time of Guezo, or if you're suddenly an expert in the history written by the colonizers, good for you. I'm a beninese and I'm not sure I know the whole truth. I was not there and what was written by the winners can be very deceptive, we know how this works. Not to say Dahomey people were perfect, far from that ! The walls of the King's palace were built with human blood. There were human sacrifices, slave trade, like in many other parts of the world. But is it really what y'all are pissed about? Is it the first time you hear about this ? Do you judge and boycott every movie based on the past of the tribe depicted ? Why suddenly now with this particular movie ? Do you feel threatened in any way ? Started with She-hulk, right ? And then Ariel, then this. Ask yourself why. People, it's Hollywood ! It's a business. How is any of this even a surprise to you ?

[@marriebandz5769]

I have read the book a couples of years ago and I was shocked when they had a role in the black panther movie 😅

[@doz6521]

Look, you need to make a vid about every soldier from every nation because a soldier fights for their people. Soldiers are trained to kill their enemy. I guess you never served in an army. That's what it took. I don't glorify anyone but The Most High. I did thoroughly enjoy the movie. They were a highly skilled group if women fighters and I think that bothers a lot if men.

[@peterstoric6560]

It’s more so the history buffs wondering why they made a movie about notorious African slavers into an anti slavery film. It’s like using hitler as the protagonist of a anti genocide movie, it’s a little weird if you know the history

[@commonsense3710]

Didn't the French annihilated them while only losing 16 men?

[@earthangelsonofgod1138]

Excellent break down on this thanks for the history lesson brother 💯💯💯

[@sibongisenikhumalo8198]

Oh my Lord you took a lesson from this?

[@CHANGEISGOOD24]

I'm believing that Mrs. Davis didn't do a extensive research about the women warriors and I also have to say that some of our distant kinfolk sold us out. We have some trifling kinfolks in our family too that would do anything for wealth. Gotta own every part of oneself. The good the bad the ugly.

[@venusonanuga8725]

this is the kingdom that kidnapped cudjoe lewis from his tribe(yoruba).

[@dasiahill60]

I firmly believe if this was a story about black men y’all wouldn’t be going this hard

[@bobby8695]

i mean, you may be right

[@yungcalio345]

Typical you women never in the wrong, anytime you women are in limelight for doing wrong it's always going back to men.

[@IndigoWisdom1]

The part about being able to resist the French Europeans was actually a good think 👌🏾 The movie “gently” reminds the Dahomey of the negative consequences of what they were doing, by the time they could understand the worldwide implications (aka too late).

[@jim-pauladams9194]

They were no different from other kingdoms. That’s how kingdoms and empires expand. Not pretty, but that’s part of history.

[@ANik-uksau]

Hypocrisy

[@melissavasquez3232]

precisley

[@anafadae]

I just want to reiterate that every single black person originated from Africa no matter what island you think you're from or how light your skin is. even if you are mixed with white your ancestors are African. So the history and story of the Dahomeys affects us all.

[@CopperHawk1966]

False!! American in the Ancient Holy land!! That out Africa Paradine is absolutely false according to today’s sources! Peace

[@clementkong8133]

That’s the type of brutality that Voodoo brings you.

[@CoachChef]

If you want more accurate accounts of the dahomy and the dahomy women warriors you also check out "home team history" on KZbin More accurate literature describing who the homie and their women warriors were and more introspection of the good and the bad no one in this world is without fault

[@natalyd9674]

Right. So let's take an introspective view of the Nazis and see how that flies in this woke zeitgeist. Let's see the "good" of those guys. The end shouldn't justify the means.

[@lavenderlover5549]

Would you say the same thing for groups like the Nazis and Al quaeda?

[@natalyd9674]

@@lavenderlover5549 Exactly. And there are those movies out there like "Triumph of the Will" and Al Qaeda "recruitment" videos. Should we say they are "not without fault" too and pay to see those movies??

[@jtt1928]

This message is Tone Talks approved 💪🏾. Good job man!

[@lullabiesofthedusk]

If black women need role models to look up to, why not look into all the brave African women, who did good for their people, rather than these women

[@drakenignamorte2149]

This either shows how ignorant Hollywood thinks the public is or how ignorant Hollywood are or both. The movie is false is so many ways; The King noticed them and employed them as bodyguards is the consensus of how they came into being. The started out with about 1,000 or so and grew to 4,000. The other myth is there were no male soldiers which is not true there were about 60/40 split. They didnt use swords but did use rifles and cannons. The Kingdom also fought to keep their slave trading empire when slavery was abolished they fought against the French, English and Americans who also were asked by other smaller African nations to help them against the Dahomey kingdom.

[@imdbtruth]

This is precisely why they're being honored today. It's no accident.

[@bluehatmimesmimosa6593]

Are you telling me the Dahomey Amazon woman were using the slave prisoners as a practice for killing there enemies? The head cut off of a man slave for practice is disturbing and offensive. Something They Did Not show in the movie. Oh woe!

[@RIKLONG]

What’s you opinion on The Northman?

[@kong_toon1270]

where did you get that information from? european traders wrote this down a suppose? let smile a bit

[@Moonlight-u8u]

its in an article of new world encyclopedia and many other articles

[@827shunbun]

I appreciate and I thank you for the history lesson, but I still loved the movie! Viola Davis was amazing in this roll! I'm going to see it again.

[@ttrev007]

I heard it was a decent movie, but i cannot support this kind of historical glorification of such a evil group. I will never let them see a penny form me.

[@bellsells1]

fantastic movie . Nice to see people finally interested in African stories fact or fiction!! I Love Africa

[@robertrankin8031]

you sellout

[@robertrankin8031]

@@bellsells1 you sellout nigga

[@robertrankin8031]

@@bellsells1 you sellout nigga

[@hulagu3068]

Thank you for keeping it real. there are better stories they could've told.

[@bobby8695]

The Haitian Revolution is one they are afraid to tell. I know that eventually they will, but it may not be historically accurate and ofc they’ll use it for some sort of propaganda

[@divinedelaware7541]

I will be spreading the knowledge on this.

[@garfunkle5447]

I'm Hispanic. I'm decended from the Aztecs. They sacrificed so many of their neighboring tribes too their god. I don't think they should be glorified too.

[@pepsi_man4962]

Are you descended from the Spanish too? Just asking lol. Because at school they liked to teach us that most Hispanics are descended of Aztecs and Spanish Europeans. And I don’t trust school at all anymore. I’m glad I’m graduated lol

[@comegetfrankfrankshitoshow248]

People and kingdoms used to be very vicious throughout history. Anyone who is alive today is very likely to be a descendant of a kingdom which was once powerful. It’s hard to criticize the atrocities of history because almost everyone was guilty at some point and we’re living in completely different era. The big fish always eats the smaller fish and it goes on and on.

[@stanbartsch1984]

It's one thing to criticize - it's another to glorify and romanticize. This movie is no better than the westerns of the 50s and 60s where the "civilized" white men conquer the "barbaric" American Natives.

[@marissashantez6051]

Yeah, well, NOT EVERYONE WAS VICIOUS. There were two groups of people; the French and the Aruba working to END SLAVERY IN AFRICA. And the greedy evil dahomey fighting to keep it going. You can always say "this and that" about anything. But we are trying to glorify the fighting block that wanted to MAKE HUMAN SUFFERING CONTINUE, because they were greedy, and didn't want to earn money some other way.

[@patlyons1616]

@@stanbartsch1984 except thats actually what happened unlike this anti white non sense

[@argh432]

@@stanbartsch1984 true but the native tribes acted just like the dahomey. They just had stone age tools.

[@SuperBullaMan]

Why was there Colonialism, after the transatlantic slave trade? The Romans had slaves. Yes African had slavery amongst themselves, but did they ensue mass genocide when they sold their people to Caucasians? Greed, profit, was the part of all monarchist led systems. The point is the Europeans came looking as the criminals they sent as indentured workers to Australia and the American colonies couldn't hack it. They created a monster! These women were strong despite failing in battle against the French who eventually colonized them. Africa would have been the same as China, Europe and America if their wasn't money and racial deceitful carnage, and bamboozlement and that the point..

[@npcimknot958]

lesson- if you have a gun you got control. how to get a gun, sell innocent people to other people. have a family member that u don't like, sell him too!

[@djmayorm.o.d829]

A honest question here. Which African tribe clearly stood against and fought against slave trade?

[@Victory987]

The Dahomey were selling Da homies

[@dre1021]

The movie is based on a true story. It's not a documentary or a bio picture so of course it will be dramatized for entertainment value. We can enjoy the movie for what it is and also know the true historical events.

[@melissavasquez3232]

true

[@tfourqurean8310]

The Dahomey were slave traders and the French tried to stop slavery. The exact opposite of what this 3rd rate movie shows. In one battle the French killed over 500 Dahomey's and lost only 6 troops. The Dahomey really sucked at fighting but were good at dying.

[@npcimknot958]

brits ended up stopping it and dahomeys continued after the agreement. they are wvil

[@mightyking4619]

They were overpowered by guns. The Dahomey were good at hand to hand combat but this was a gun fight. The French did say they fought well but they still lost and they took the land.

[@loganbaileysfunwithtrains606]

@@mightyking4619 the Zulu were also great at melee combat and they waged a deadly conflict against the British for years. The Dahomey were just a bandit tribe of raiders going out to kill the weak and the elderly because they couldn’t fight back

[@mightyking4619]

@@loganbaileysfunwithtrains606: Wrong. The tribe was in constant war with nearby tribes even before the French arrived. They even won a war against the Ashanti tribe (Africa's strongest tribe) with the help of another tribe. Please learn your history before speaking.

[@loganbaileysfunwithtrains606]

@@mightyking4619 they were in constant war because they constantly tried raiding the tribes for slave stock. Attrition of melee combat in Africa at that time was pretty high, the constant fighting weakened them to the point they could no longer fight against powerful tribes and they focused on the weak, again they were little more than a bandit society

[@mochamalasses2390]

This is mind blowing. This is the part of my history I have to research 🖤. This will never be taught in schools

[@LadySenseiNewYork]

Some of you should be thanking Viola Davis because if she didn't make the film you wouldn't know anything about them because you won't read or study, and cosign on what everyone has to say. It's interesting that the history of these women has been sitting around for 200 years, no one says anything. Viola Davis comes along and suddenly people are trying to be opinionated when they knew absolutely zero about their history. Now it somehow becomes this individual who made the video and Hollywood's responsibility to tell you about our history. And the posture and attitude that some of our people adopt after watching this video should make some of you more humble because Viola isn't the problem, it's your own lack of knowledge. All of a sudden one video makes some of you a scholar. Study for yourself, read and research for yourself and stop waiting beat up Viola Davis and beat yourself up first for not studying. It wasn't a documentary and never tried to be. If you didn't see it, and the person who made the video didn't see it, you must learn to become compelled to do your own research. Get used to that because all you are doing is adopting that person's position, and you still don't know anything. Stop second-handing other people's info and start studying more often because everything you're talking about happens everyday in the world among our own people. Our people kill our own people, sex traffic our children, sell drugs, gang violence, but people are cool with all of those types of films. We just can't be satisfied one way or the other.

[@terrencefields4115]

Greetings brother love your show and I learned all of the facts and tries that you spoke years ago but it's really inspiring to hear young men like yourself so we'll informed peace to you and your family and please keep up the good work our communities need your unapologetically BLACK opinion on things that are important to us. PS I also will boycott this travisty and inform others to do the same.

[@MythDetect]

Thank you sir.

[@SuperBullaMan]

Why was there Colonialism, after the transatlantic slave trade? The Romans had slaves. Yes African had slavery amongst themselves, but did they ensue mass genocide when they sold their people to Caucasians? Greed, profit, was the part of all monarchist led systems. The point is the Europeans came looking as the criminals they sent as indentured workers to Australia and the American colonies couldn't hack it. They created a monster! These women were strong despite failing in battle against the French who eventually colonized them. Africa would have been the same as China, Europe and America if their wasn't money and racial deceitful carnage, and bamboozlement and that the point...

[@MythDetect]

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