Why the Empire Needs Omega Explained

[@Meltorange]

I think Omega was born Force-sensitive rather than having been tampered with. Nala Se is aware of her Force-sensitivity because, naturally, her blood would be tested.

[@StuartLugsden]

I like that idea

[@jiffypoo5029]

She could be an engineered template for m-count transfer. No natural midichlorians but her blood can accept them. She might gain low level force sensitivity if she got a blood transfusion from Ventress.

[@JR-Mystic]

​@@SenormoolaWhere in canon (or Legends or otherwise) was Jango established to be force-sensitive? I'm asking, because I've never heard that one before.

[@jiffypoo5029]

@@JR-Mystic Legends had a whole m-count scale for most characters. Average person was 500. Han and Jango/Boba were 4000. Lando was 5000. Minimum for a Jedi was 10000. Obi-Wan was 13000, Mace was 13500, Luke/Leia were 15000, Vader was 25000, Palpatine was 28000, Yoda was 29000 and Prime Anakin was 30000.

[@Bad_Wolf_Media]

​@@jiffypoo5029 That chart obviously isn't right, then, even at the time it came out. @hen they tested Anakin in Episode 1, Obi-Wan said "The reading's off the chart. Over 20,000. Even Master Yoda doesn't have a midi-chlorian count that high," and I think it would be stretch to call a 9-year-old kid "Prime Anakin."

[@jiffypoo5029]

I don't think Omega has a natural m-count but her blood can accept midichlorian transfer. Omega is the template for a force sensitive cloning. If Omega needed a blood transfusion from Ventress her body would accept the midichlorians and she would gain force senstivity.

[@joshrandor4371]

Correct. All the other blood can't hold m count. Hers can...doesn't mean she's force sensitive.

[@siiir1322]

Which is stupid, because omega is the exact copy of jango fett. She basically has the same dna as boba and jango. So why is she all of a sudden all special?

[@bucketofparts]

​siiir13 because Nala Se lied to protect her (or protect the secret, at any rate). Or some other explanation that will be revealed. It's not "stupid" if it's what the writers had in mind all along. I very much doubt they went into this just winging it. Or that they would pivot away from an original plan of having Omega be nothing special into such a wild change without a plan. The animation department is a lot more controlled than the film department. They probably knew this whole story before they even began work on season 1.

[@jiffypoo5029]

@@siiir1322Omega was the first genetically enhanced clone not an exact copy. In Season 1 Finale she talks about helping engineer the Bad Batch. Omega is the older sister, she might even age slower instead of faster.

[@zephyr835]

I'm thinking pretty much the same. At the beginning of Truth and Consequences, she told Echo that meditating doesn't work for her the way it does for Gungi (though she still likes it). If she had a high m-count, that would mean a greater affinity, i.e. the "talent" that Ahsoka talked about with Sabine. Granted, Omega could end up using the Force in some way.

[@Flettwin]

Part of me still thinks that noted-Godzilla-fan Dave Filoni has plans for a Clone Zillobeast Vs Mythosaur fight once Thrawn starts letting loose the contents of Tantiss on the New Republic. Not something I’m personally itching for, but it would be a fun unique set-piece for his movie and something Star Wars hasn’t really done.

[@someblooshampoo7957]

agreed, that could be very cool, or maybe palps transfers his spirit into a Zillo beast lol

[@minicle426]

Mecha Zillobeast

[@Flettwin]

@@minicle426 There’s literally a picture of Dave Filoni holding a Mecha Godzilla head and he sketches them in meetings, you might not be far off. 😂

[@badenhowell3312]

Watching those episodes of Omega in Mount Tantiss gave me the same vibes as Andor when he was in that prison.

[@pinstripecool34]

Yea the vibe felt completley different alot darker. I like it!

[@dragonblaster-vu8wz]

If Thrawn could potentially go to Mount Tantiss to raise a clone army, then it sets up the possibility of an adult Omega guiding our heroes through the base to try and stop the chiss. She would be the same age as Boba at that time, and she ought to know Tantiss quite well given how long she was imprisoned there. Not to mention seeing the Havoc Marauder in live action, along with Gonky and Batcher would be fun

[@Azure_Fire]

I don't like that...because the entire time all I'll be thinking is "this was way better in the book".

[@someblooshampoo7957]

AAAAAAA I'm gonna throw up all this wild speculation gets me soooo excited, I was thinking how omega could be a good main character for the new republic movie. with all the mandoverse characters potentially appearing, I think they'd need a "new" character to be the focus of the new republic eras movie, to like differentiate the movie from the other shows and give it it's own identity, and I think an adult omega could work perfectly. maybe she's a clone Jedi type and maybe since this is the first time we see her since bad batch the wider audience doesn't need to see bad batch to get to know her, as bad batch fans will also be getting to know her 30 years after they saw her last. I feel like I'm going insane with all this speculation lol

[@joeldawsey]

Palpatine: But where are the clones?...Send in the clones...Don't bother, they're here...🎵🎵🎵

[@StuartLugsden]

I want to know what Emerie Karr's purpose is and how Hemlock acquired her. She's clearly an accelerated clone. It also makes me wonder what else the kaminoans made.

[@bucketofparts]

Yep. And why such a normal name rather than a nickname or a designation? Where did that come from?

[@CJ-442]

Maybe not. The Kaminoans were accepting cloning contracts way before they were commissioned to create the Clone Grand Army. The reason Dexter Jexter knew about them in Episode II was because he had met some (non-Fett) clone workers created by them when he was still a miner. Emery may be from one of those custom orders made prior to the Clone Wars. She may not have any growth acceleration.

[@StuartLugsden]

@@CJ-442 She clearly states shes Omegas sister so she was made from the Jango DNA.

[@StuartLugsden]

@@bucketofparts She was clearly made before Omega and was made to be a scientist not a solider. Hemlock was part of the Republic’s science division so he probably visited Kamino at one point during the war and thats how he met her and I guess Shaak Tii, (assuming she knew of her existence), allowed him to take her since she is “property” of the Empire.

[@StuartLugsden]

*Republic

[@Mike-the-Jedi]

I'm sure I missed something along the way, but didn't they explicitly say that Omega WASN'T altered, like at all, that was the whole point of her that she was original DNA without any enhancements?

[@JarrettOriginal]

Yes, but now that we know Nala Se is very protective of Omega directly (not just manipulating things through third parties), it's not a stretch to speculate that she destroyed any evidence of Omega's actual enhancement and logged into the Kaminoan databank that she's like Boba (Alpha) except female.

[@collecter343]

Figured same thing, still weird coincidence that she has this unique genetic ability to retain a M-count that Nala Se knew before Tantiss. Maybe she was enhanced but in such a minute and subtle way (at least compared to the rest of Batch) that no one really knew except for Nala Se.

[@Compucles]

Well, we do know that she was actually modified in at least one way, specifically her gender. What if that modification is related to it in some way, like either the gender-swapping or the genetic stabilizing is a side effect of the other?

[@amaranthpaean]

@@CompuclesIf so, that’s gonna infuriate the people who think certain ad campaigns by big athletic clothing manufacturers are… awakened… conspiracies against them. But I love it, because I think Omega’s gift is that she’s a catalyst of sorts. I’m okay with never getting a scientific or mystical explanation, because Star Wars has proven to be a fantastic and fantastical melding of the two.

[@michaelramon2411]

@@collecter343 It's possible that Nala Se didn't know in advance that Omega's blood would retain the M-count, but she personally tested an Omega sample after her capture, saw the result, deleted the result and sabotaged Omega's tests from then on.

[@45TRANSFORMERSFAN]

Even after they have been manipulated and discarded, after they are forgotten, the clones have managed to thwart the Emperor's plans, not only for the Alliance, but even for the Resistance many years later. And with Kix's survival, they will live to see it through. In the end, the clones have become the galaxy's heroes...

[@juankovacs6033]

I don't know why but Hemlock reminds me a little bit to Snoke. Imagine Snoke being a failed clone of Hemlock's-Palpatine's DNA...

[@orrinfreeman5672]

Love coming back to the channel whenever new Star Wars content drops. Super excited to check in every week as new episodes come out!

[@MCLegoboy]

While I will probably never like the idea of Palpatine returning in The Rise of Skywalker, I do like that connections made between The Bad Batch, The Mandalorian, and The Rise of Skywalker because it does help make the universe feel more full. I won't say that they retcon anything, but the new added context and consistent failure that comes about from making Force Sensitive Clones helps make Palpatine's failure more a forgone conclusion than just this crazy idea that was put forth at the last second. Even having Snoke revealed to be some kind of genetically spliced monstrosity shows just how desparate the situation has been, and seeing its origins all the way back to the early days of the Empire, and seeing that across 50 years, they still couldn't quite make it work is interesting. And then as Alex pointed out, the fact that it may have been Clones, beings made specifically for Palpatine to more easily come to power, could very well be his own undoing for eternal reign. That's pretty cool.

[@brokenshadow9607]

I love the connection to the sequels. Whether you like it or not they are canon and will always be canon XD

[@lufo2053]

Im organizing an asylum request to a neighbors parrarel universe where tthe sequels doesn't exist if u wanna join

[@beneendra]

grow up.

[@da-vidcargill4975]

​​@@lufo2053hell no, touch grass

[@HumbleAshe]

Definitely with you, the sequels are canon and they are great.

[@joshrandor4371]

I wanna like them, but the gaps in story take me out of it. Maybe them filling those gaps will help. I also didn't like the feeling that they undermined the OT.

[@ICU1337]

I dont think you're far off. The last season of The Mando, the last season of The Bad Batch, and I feel like one other SW tv show has been building up this storyline over the past few years. Why Omega though? Who knows🤷🏽‍♂ Some people hate that the new SW stuff has been leaning into sequel trilogy storyline but I'm loving that they are. These shows have been fixing the mess that the sequel trilogy storytelling was and making it coherent.

[@america5283]

CONGRATULATIONS TO YOU GUYS FOR REACHING 800000 SUBSCRIBERS! 🎉

[@ignaciorodriguez5636]

Omega says that the experiments on her on Tantiss are different from the ones on Kamino. That begs the question, what were they experimenting on her on Kamino?

[@Kiwi42andEverything]

Someone commented in the episodes review video that it seems extremely strange that the scientists continually tested omegas blood again and again, what did they think would change? (Of course we know it wasn't tested until the end) Also why were the clones so sickly, have they been getting juiced up to see if it changes the outcome? Could it be its not only palpatines blood, but every sample is tested with a different force sensitve persons blood?

[@collecter343]

Big facility, other experiments could be taking place on the clones and these scientists may not care too much on the clones’ health.

[@dkarras]

Came to the comments to see if anybody was picking up on this cuz none of the channels I’ve watched seem to be. A few options: 1) they are subjecting those they are taking blood samples from to something that could change the outcome w/ subsequent samples 2) the transfused M-count sample is different each time. If it really is Palps samples being tested to work w/ a cloned body, why would it be changing each time ? Presumably they would want a replicable host for unaltered Palps samples. Setting aside the fact that making a clonable force sensitive body has little to do w/ providing the continuity that Palps presumably seeks but that could come later. 3) they’re hoping we didn’t notice as it simply provided an effective ticking clock for the story I’m also reminded of the occasions we’ve seen before in which Palps is interested in acquiring & experimenting on younglings; TCW - Children of the Force, Rebels - Future of the Force, and possibly (beyond wanting Jedi eliminated) Gungi in captivity in Tribe.

[@Progger11]

Ysalamiri being called "salamiri" made me chuckle.

[@Er_Guille]

A wild guess here. Maybe in the next installment of The Mandalorian” they will indeed need someone knowledgeable about Mount Tantiss. How about Cap Rex and Omega? We could see her in live action.

[@shahzebhasan9995]

Part of me did wonder if Emery forged the results to trick Hemlock into letting Omega and Crosshair escape, but I admit its extremely unlikely

[@lufo2053]

Too son for that I guess. Every will Turn good for sure but it's too soon right now

[@dylpickle0927]

​@@lufo2053God I hope not, that would be stupid

[@aaronmichael6792]

Negative. We watched the confirmation happen on its own by the machine. Emerys shock was visualized in that moment.

[@JarrettOriginal]

Rewatching everything to prep for this final season, in the first season Omega is remarkably intuitive. She even sort of sees the future with Crosshair, knowing that what he's about to do is not his fault. This combined with her ability to quickly learn new skills and adapt to her new life with TBB and her deep emotional connection with all living things; I think she's Force sensitive. And Nala Se knows it, maybe she made her that way, maybe it just happened; either way, that's why Nala Se destroys Omega's blood and helps her escape when no other option exists; she's got an M-Count, she always has.

[@zephyr835]

That's glossing over her knowledge of the inhibitor chips.

[@JarrettOriginal]

​@@zephyr835not in the least

[@zephyr835]

@@JarrettOriginal You said Omega "sort of sees the future with Crosshair" with no acknowledgment that she knows about the chips. That's absolutely glossing over it.

[@JarrettOriginal]

@@zephyr835 No, it's recognizing that there is a large possibility that there's more going on.

[@PublicRecordsGeek]

Omega has demonstrated Animal Alliance so many times that saying they didn't foreshadow this is simply wrong. Like young Leia seeing into Obi Wan, or Luke seeing what Obi Wan meant when he mentioned Anakin by reference and later, guessing about his sister. The Force is not always sabres and force pushes.

[@jonathanmoore7079]

I felt the same way. I think she is a partial clone of Dooku, but that is just me.

[@PublicRecordsGeek]

@@jonathanmoore7079 or Sifo-Dias

[@jonathanmoore7079]

@@PublicRecordsGeek, exactly.

[@pilotjcm]

Hey, you forgot the value of Grogus’s blood and Moff Gideon's studies!! The race is not over!! Great videos 🎉

[@levineely3312]

Why does the display show what looks like a Chiss individual when reading the blood sample? Any ideas?

[@Percival917]

No, but having a chiss clone isn't impossible... Thrawn's pre-GCW involvement has already been canonized.

[@jybyrd]

The ysalamiri can be seen as decorations in Thrawn's ship in Rebels.

[@barrybear2012]

The part about injecting troopers with Palpatine's blood sounds like that came straight from Final Fantasy VII where Jenova cells were injected into members of Soldier, and the Soldier project gave rise to Sephiroth.

[@joshfactor1]

technically, she's the sixth member; echo is the fifth

[@Tyrannosaurus_Hec]

Echo is a member but in this context Echo is a reg not modified like the 99 and Omega

[@auntvesuvi3872]

Thank you, Alex! Ω

[@Midnight575]

I know its off topic but where did you get that Biggs Darklighter plushy I see in the background?

[@mitten_state]

For me, it doesn’t matter if Omega is force sensitive. All we know is that her blood can be successfully infused with another’s blood. I don’t need to know the whys about it. I do find it interesting that Nala Se protects Omega. It is obvious from Nala Se’s actions that something special was done to create Omega back on Kamino. I’m good if we never find out exactly what was special about her cloning process. If never answered, it would very much be like the end of Part 18 of David Lynch’s Twin Peaks: The Return!!!

[@smokerevenant894]

Where did you buy your sith trooper helmet?

[@aidanglenane8330]

I love dr hemlock more than rampart he’s such a cold calculating villian😊

[@lcpunkrawk]

I am not familiar with the Ysalamiri. Are they at all analogous to the Leveler in the High Republic?

[@ariesstorm9577]

Do we know whether Palpatine had established a cloning lab on Exegol around this time period or do you think that he had it built there later on down the timeline?

[@kapitanofbottom668]

Well, Omega is pure clone without enhancements (such as Boba), so her blood has secrets of Camino's technology. With her Imps can create a pure clone of Palpatine 🎉

[@barbwyer5322]

is there still not a clones zillobeast on the loose from season 2?

[@derekmak1781]

I think the big reveal is that Omega is Force-sensitive but it’s being saved for the last episode or something.

[@OverlyPositiveFanboy]

I mean, the Empire didn't know about Omega's Force potential until now. Before, they just wanted her as leverage against Nala Se.

[@Lumber91]

The last episode comes out on 5.01 😱😱 501st 😱😱😱😱

[@heidifedor]

I think Grogu is in stasis at Mt. Tantus, and that’s what Palpatine, Nala Se, and Hemlock were looking at in the mysterios area.

[@mccooeychris]

I may be mis remembering season 1 but i thought Omega was an unaltered clone of Jango. Never made sense to me since there would have to be some alternations since she's female.

[@collecter343]

Changing a chromosome to flip gender before they developed was probably less work to the Kaminoans than all the other stuff they did on the clones. In any case, Tech did say she was basically unaltered except for gender but maybe something like retaining an m-count is so out of left field he wouldn’t have noticed.

[@StuartLugsden]

I really hope she's not force sensitive.

[@jiffypoo5029]

I think she is a template for midiclorian transfer. She isn't force sensitive but her blood can accept midiclorians from a blood transfusion. If she got a blood transfusion from Asajj Ventress she would probably become force sensitive.

[@deaconpoole7577]

I’ve been calling it since Episode 1 of the series; Omega is Force Sensitive. I mean, do you all remember when she was able to shoot the blaster out of Crosshair’s hands??!

[@Compucles]

This is also from Legends, but I think it's worth pointing out that in the novelization of "The Force Unleashed 2," it's claimed that it's impossible to clone Force-sensitive people.

[@Elvisbackpack]

And then they do it several times anyway.

[@Compucles]

@@Elvisbackpack I'll have to look at it again, but maybe it was that it was impossible to make a stable clone of them. Anyway, there's the mad clone of Luke in the original Thrawn trilogy. Like in canon, Legends Palpatine did a soul swap into a clone body, so that doesn't really count. We never did find out the true identity of the version of Starkiller in "The Force Unleashed 2" Who else was there?

[@Compucles]

Oh, of course, there's the mad clone of Jorus C'Baoth in the original Thrawn trilogy, as well. Anyway, I checked the book, and it claims that (in Legends) it is impossible to make a Force sensitive clone without the clone going mad. You either had to deal with a crazy clone or remove the Force sensitivity in the cloning process.

[@TravisBurton]

I do not think it was the Emperor's blood. I think it was the blood from another Force sensitive being.

[@CharlieHepp]

that is lying no If Thrawn could potentially go to Mount Tantiss to raise a clone army, then it sets up the possibility of an adult Omega guiding our heroes through the base to try and stop the chiss. She would be the same age as Boba at that time, and she ought to know Tantiss quite well given how long she was imprisoned there. Not to mention seeing the Havoc Marauder in live-action, along with Gonky and Batcher would be fun I don't know why but Hemlock reminds me a little bit of Snoke. Imagine Snoke being a failed clone of Hemlock's-Palpatine's DNA... Omega has demonstrated Animal Alliance so many times that saying they didn't foreshadow this is simply wrong. Like young Leia sees into Obi-Wan, or Luke sees what Obi-Wan meant when he mentioned Anakin by reference and later, guessing about his sister. The Force is not always sabers and force pushes. Omega says that the experiments on her on Tantiss are different from the ones on Kamino. That begs the question, what were they experimenting on her on Kamino? I love the connection to the sequels. Whether you like it or not they are canon and will always be canon XD While I will probably never like the idea of Palpatine returning in The Rise of Skywalker, I do like the connections made between The Bad Batch, The Mandalorian, and The Rise of Skywalker because it does help make the universe feel more full. I won't say that they retcon anything, but the new added context and consistent failure that comes about from making Force Sensitive Clones helps make Palpatine's failure more a forgone conclusion than just this crazy idea that was put forth at the last second. Even having Snoke revealed to be some kind of genetically spliced monstrosity shows just how desperate the situation has been, and seeing its origins all the way back to the early days of the Empire, and seeing that across 50 years, they still couldn't quite make it work is interesting. And then as Alex pointed out, the fact that it may have been Clones, beings made specifically for Palpatine to more easily come to power, could very well be his own undoing for eternal reign. That's pretty cool. Love coming back to the channel whenever new Star Wars content drops. Super excited to check in every week as new episodes come out! Hey, you forgot the value of Grogus’s blood and Moff Gideon's studies!! The race is not over!! Great videos 🎉 My guess on Omega's differences is that M-count and related properties are the result of experience and environmental factors, rather than DNA (since otherwise testing hordes of clones seems like an exercise in madness). However, while each clone has had unique life experiences, their highly regimented upbringing, education, and training followed by service in the same military leave them with relatively similar results. On the other hand, Omega, while still growing up on Kamino, had much more freedom and flexibility, and that might have made her cells more accepting of midi-chlorians. It would seem appropriately thematic that the Empire cannot get what it wants out of the members of the rigid society it seeks - they need people from free environments to do it. The calamari can be seen as decorations in Thrawn's ship in Rebels. technically, she's the sixth member; Echo is the fifth CONGRATULATIONS TO YOU GUYS FOR REACHING 800000 SUBSCRIBERS! 🎉 Someone commented in the episode's review video that it seems extremely strange that the scientists continually tested omega blood again and again, what did they think would change? (Of course, we know it wasn't tested until the end) Also, why were the clones so sickly, have they been getting juiced up to see if it changes the outcome? Could it be it's not only patient blood, but every sample is tested with a different force-sensitive person's blood? For me, it doesn’t matter if Omega is force-sensitive. All we know is that her blood can be successfully infused with another’s blood. I don’t need to know the whys about it. I do find it interesting that Nala Se protects Omega. It is obvious from Nala Se’s actions that something special was done to create Omega back on Kamino. I’m good if we never find out exactly what was special about her cloning process. If never answered, it would very much be like the end of Part 18 of David Lynch’s Twin Peaks: The Return!!! I think Grogu is in stasis at Mt. Tantus, and that’s what Palpatine, Nala Se, and Hemlock were looking at in the Mysterios area. at 9:45 pm. is over this week.

[@elliotgreen2279]

Everyone seems to think the blood samples are to make more clone vessels for palpatine to transfer into or a zillo beast ..... However I think this is the start of the creation of the death/shadow troopers

[@waynehenry127]

Have you been picking up on Omega's connection to animals? She's definitely force sensitive!

[@senatorchris3134]

Omega has pure genetic Jango Fett DNA, she is an unaltered clone, with no growth acceleration. I have suspected she may be force sensitive, but that has never been confirmed. The Cameo I'm waiting for is Ahsoka, but I don't think we'll get that, because I think she is still in hiding as she was in the Ahsoka novel by E K Johnston.

[@wdh199821]

It has something to do with her clearly extraordinary empathic traits. And it also kind of explains why Palpatine’s clones rotted away as soon as he put his consciousness into them. The problem they ran into is that empathy is important for the force. And Palpatine is literally incapable.

[@jordanwhite352]

God what I love about this whole scheme is it really shows you that the sith and the Jedi have the same origins. Only do they have very similar creeds but this makes it hilarious that they both fell for the same mistake: reducing the force to physical aspects such as blood count and being able to lift rocks than an actual mental spiritual aspect of connecting with those around you and going with the flow of the life and the cosmos. The irony is that emperor palpatine and that's the sith downfall was the same downfall as the Jedi. They both lost their ways. 😎

[@thesharpercoder]

I think Omega has been showing glimpses of the ability to use the Force throughout the entire series. I would compare her to Anakin. I’m not saying she is as powerful as Anakin. Only that she can do things that only people using the Force can do.

[@schroder1972utrecht]

Why are the troopers in the facility in full gear like indoors with a backpack?

[@vahlte]

Do you think the eaters of the Force could come to play a similar role for Thrawn in canon, if they don’t die out in The High Republic?

[@hamish-k]

Real talk if asajj ventress become omega mentor that would be awesome so much interesting tales you could tell

[@yfz350twin]

I thought Boba was supposed to be the only unaltered clone? Perhaps Boba and Omega were twins born as the exact same time.

[@cameronpearce5943]

Omega and the Bad Batch are this timelines nexus event diverging Legends from the New EU

[@overknightacention39]

Hope we get to see Kix. He deserved to be know.

[@JarrettOriginal]

He's frozen aboard one of Dooku's ships, which I believe has crashed by now. Bro isn't getting out until right after TFA.

[@ajessell281]

Would you be happy/sad/wait to see if one of moff gideons clones ended up surviving?

[@daveonwheeler7412]

Good job

[@JohanMsWorld]

I think its a two stager - At this point we learn more about the cloning and what it can do and cant do and the Mando timeline we learn the more specific of creating clones for both Moff Gideon and Palpatine. In that way they can paint a picture to fill in the gaps between the prequel trilogys cloning and what is Palpatine and the imperial remnants problem with cloning at theyre era 30 years later. One thing that have start to bother me since this story seams to be set up to be a tragedy (heroes dying at the end) one might wonder if Omegas faith could be to take her own life at the series end cause she figured out that the only way to spoil the emperors plan is to give her own life for it after they try all the different aproaches to save her? I hope not cause I like Omega to much for her to be star wars equalent to Juliet in Romeo and Juliet. J.

[@StarWarsSublight]

I’d like to know when you recorded this, mate. Seeing as you received an advance copy of the first 8 eps.

[@BrunoAmaral2]

They will succeed the cloning with Snoke, though

[@raybellows9415]

All questions will be answered

[@Blackhand47XD]

We can still see origin of Dathan - father of Rey.

[@da-vidcargill4975]

He was created on exegol so doubt it

[@Azure_Fire]

If they put a third eye in the back of his head I'll forgive Disney for every grievance I have with their canon.

[@Blackhand47XD]

@@da-vidcargill4975 Filoni did few retcons before (Kanan comics, Ahsoka novel). Books are on lesser level than movies and TV Shows.

[@heidifedor]

I’m starting to think that, like the hair loss gene, M-counts only exist in the X chromosome.

[@deanthemachine8879]

Why would you put it in Clone Troopers? That sounds like an easily avoidable recipe for trouble…

[@TheBatsquid]

What if palpatine is the mcguffin here, what if the empire isnt using Palps blood but instead Grogus blood, since we know grogu was in Imp custody some time before mando got him. So palpatine still wanting to live forever wants to clone Grogu but inhabit a body like his.

[@cyberpunk42]

We need a Star Wars/Multiplicity parody with copied copies of Palpatine clones running around... 😂🤣

[@Bitbater]

Your little light is falling in the background

[@michaelramon2411]

My guess on Omega's differences is that M-count and related properties are the result of experience and environmental factors, rather than DNA (since otherwise testing hordes of clones seems like an exercise in madness). However, while each clone has had unique life experiences, their highly regimented upbringing, education and training followed by service in the same military leaves them with relatively similar results. On the other hand, Omega, while still growing up on Kamino, had much more freedom and flexibility, and that might have made her cells more accepting of midi-chlorians. It would seem appropriately thematic that the Empire cannot get what it wants out of the members of the rigid society it seeks - they need people from free environments to do it.

[@lightaces]

I have this little voice in my head which keeps saying, "wouldn't it be interesting if Omega ended up being Ray's mom," but the timing just isn't quite there, and also, it just feels like too much.

[@Elvisbackpack]

Also Rey's mom is named Miramir.

[@lightaces]

@@ElvisbackpackBecause no one can change their name to protect their identity, right?

[@JarrettOriginal]

​@@lightaceswe also know where she was born and the culture in which she was raised. I'd love for Omega to be Miramir, but she's not.

[@lightaces]

@@JarrettOriginalI know. I just think it would have been an interesting choice.

[@shantoreywilkins651]

🕵️

[@Zozzo984]

She is a clone of emperor

[@DarthVages]

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[@danamarvelstar]

Still don’t get how she is a pure replicant if: 1. Female 2.Blonde.

[@imperialpower2875]

Its star wars dude dont think to hard about it, if you do you are gonna get a nose bleed.

[@Immerayon]

Because the only difference would be a lack of a Y chromosome. Sex chromosomes are purely (for the most part) only sex determining genes, and has no bearing on hair colour. However, there is a nifty thing called "epigenetics", where genes can be turned off by external factors, like methylation of chromatin. There are many genes that determine hair colour, so omega's different upbringing could influence it.

[@jaffinator2166]

Because they need her M-Count for “Somehow Palpatine Returned”

[@cameronpearce5943]

I think part of it could be that Omega’s experiences and outlook have made her force sensitive. She’s lived, unlike so many other clones, and has opened the door that everyone has

[@crunchysalmons]

she had a positive M count transfer. so yea she’s a bit force sensitive

[@jiffypoo5029]

She could be a template for transfering M Count but not actually having a natural M Count. If she gets injured and gets a blood transfusion from Ventress, then her body would accept the M Count transfer and she would gain force sensitivity.

[@Azure_Fire]

Pretty sure all living things have Midochlorians.

[@jiffypoo5029]

@@Azure_Fire It's about successful high m-count transfer from a donor to clone template. Sure, in legends minimum for a Jedi was 10,000. Average person was around 500. Han Solo and Boba Fett were around 4000. This is about transfer not natural m count.

[@Zach_TheGamer]

Could this be a way that Starkiller gets introduced into canon?

[@alexanderparra9240]

They said the word "unleashed" at some point in one of the new episodes when talking about the cloning thing. I won't lie I get kinda excited.

[@Azure_Fire]

Starkiller wasn't born a clone. And there was doubt that the Starkiller from FU2 was even a clone.

[@elphiegleason3899]

Retconning the sequel trilogy is nuts I hate the sequel trilogy

[@imperialpower2875]

Except they arent retconing it they are reinforcing it

[@elphiegleason3899]

@@imperialpower2875 I misspoke

[@timefly4221]

Am I the only one who wonders how an "unaltered" clone of Jango Fett is female? Unless Star Wars genetics works differently than real world genetics, that's not possible. So either, in typical Star Wars fashion, they care more about the story than the accuracy of the science (World War 2 dogfights in space!) or the fact that Omega most likely has a second X chromosome from another donor is important to the story.

[@Elvisbackpack]

Actually, they just claim she's a "source of unaltered Jango Fett DNA", not that she's completely unaltered. Most likely, that simply means no accelerated aging or other such alterations to make her any more of a bog standard soldier. When the Kaminoans can do that sort of thing, swapping a chromosome this way or that is probably child's play and they don't see it as an alteration.

[@timefly4221]

@@ElvisbackpackShe is missing his Y chromosome, so you couldn't create more regular clones from her.

[@NthngHr_]

Can you please fix the light over BD-1? It triggers me so hard when I watch the video.😂😂

[@ajdance8677]

Is it possible that Omega isn't actually a Fett clone? Given that her DNA can carry an m-count, it suggests that she is a clone, or perhaps the child, of someone else entirely.

[@Oldmanplum]

Omega is snoke's mum. You heard it here first.

[@schroder1972utrecht]

Could omega become Rey's mother or even be the grandmother in the future

[@Azure_Fire]

"I'm Rey." "Rey who?" "Rey Fett."

[@christopherwilson7092]

You just pulled this from yesterday

[@StuartLugsden]

He added more

[@collecter343]

For the people interested only on this subject

[@Elvisbackpack]

What are you complaining about?

[@siiir1322]

Don’t want to be the sequel hater guy, but all of this just screams retcon. Omega is an exact copy of Jango, just like boba. All 3 of them share the exact same dna. So why is omega all of a sudden special and why is her blood compatible for a midichlorian transfer? So jangos blood should be able to do that too, but jango is just an average human bounty hunter. I feel like the story they previous planned out was that capturing omega is important because with her you can create a new clone army. But now they are ofc trying to explain the somehow palpatine returned situation and retcon some aspects of the bad batch. „Well omega isn’t the exact identical copy, she is also force sensitive, but we didn’t tell you that in season 1 because that wasn’t the story we were going for“

[@Percival917]

Obviously, Omega was altered to some degree at some point... But yeah, that doesn't make this not a retcon.

[@CantankerousDave]

Wait, I thought the takeaway from Ahsoka was that if you self-identify as a Jedi, you automatically gain Force powers. I guess Palpy just didn’t believe hard enough.

[@Bryan-dr5qy]

The idea that anyone can use the Force is not a new thing. The problem is what Palpatine was doing was unnatural.

[@niksterfer6sir]

SMH I hate that this whole modern Star Wars stuff has killed the love I used to have for Star Wars. I liked andor and first 2 seasons of mando but everything else has not been exciting for me at all and I hate that cause I really did love this franchise.

[@niksterfer6sir]

@@RRai2000 I’m over it but I can still talk about being frustrated. I’ve been a fan for 30 years and people that don’t care ran the franchise into oblivion. But please I’d love to hear why me being frustrated with the quality and handling of the franchise upsets you.

[@RRai2000]

​@niksterfer6sir Oblivion LOL that's so dramatic though. And besides you should delete your comment otherwise you will end up in a asylum.

[@niksterfer6sir]

@@RRai2000 but why does it bother you. What about me being connected to a story as a child and then it’s being changed just to stick it to men… why does it bother you. Other than it just makes you mad. I’m listening open ears

[@RRai2000]

​@niksterfer6sir Because you start it for gods sake. Use your brain and don't talk to me ever again.

[@Azure_Fire]

Been there man. Legacy of the Force, 2006. Ruined 15 years worth of Star Wars EU stories. They've got a lot of damage control to do on Rise of Skywalker. Though I am curious to see how they try to salvage it. Key word there being "try"