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Why The First Descendant and Other Korean Games Have So Many Microtransactions

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ParallaxStella

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@satanspy
@satanspy Ай бұрын
3:37 all of you future Throne and Liberty players that are waiting for the game to come to NA take note of this part right here.
@EarthboundX
@EarthboundX Ай бұрын
I give a shit if there are PVE pay to win bonuses. It incentives developers to make games grindier, so you'll pay more to skip the grind.
@keking2178
@keking2178 Ай бұрын
its not ok. pay to win after all, regardless PvP pve
@YoloVib3s
@YoloVib3s Ай бұрын
So let me get this straight pay to win is basically your paying for the benefit and a bonus to be able to defeat other players via PVP. So if a game is solely PVE there is no pay to win; it’s paid for convenience. Some people don’t have hours and hours of time to just play and they’re willing to pay to be able to enjoy the gaming experience when they do get to play hence the pay for convenience. If the game had a PVP mode, that’s totally different. It is paid to win because you’re paying for a bonus that’s gonna allow you to beat other players.
@Blackronin357
@Blackronin357 Ай бұрын
There's a line between pay for convienence which I don't always mind, but I also hate due to how much they charge. I'd like to grind a few minutes and then go on about my business in the game to the next level or story point w/ out having to pay $20 to skip grinding for hrs.
@keking2178
@keking2178 Ай бұрын
@@Blackronin357 pay to win is the line
@EarthboundX
@EarthboundX Ай бұрын
@@YoloVib3s Well why should games be really grindy in the first place then? If the "pay for convenience" is there, it means they purposely made the game grindier right, so you'd pay for that convenience? You don't have a problem with that? Artificially making something take longer and possibly less fun so you'll pay more to avoid it? The idea of paying to skip playing a video game you are supposed to enjoy is another thing I find really confusing. it's almost like it's a dev saying "our game sucks, pay us to skip most of it to get to the end".
@niconiconii9375
@niconiconii9375 Ай бұрын
i have played a few other Korean games so I'm not so surprised by the not so micro, microtransactions. But this is a good explanation for ppl who are new to this side of the gaming industry
@ParallaxStella
@ParallaxStella Ай бұрын
Thank you! I did a lot of research because I think most people don't understand why it's so prevalent
@bakerfresh
@bakerfresh Ай бұрын
PubG and the thank you for buying the skin. Would you like a key to open the chest. Would you like to buy the yarn and needle to make that mask. Okay, would you like permission to think about purchasing a pen and paper, sold separately, to write us and ask Yes or No for permission to then use the skin in game? Well, then buy the battle pass and reach lvl 101 and we'll talk. Fuq the ChickenDinner, I'm going Vegan!
@Mewsashi-cz9fo
@Mewsashi-cz9fo Ай бұрын
i got money i try these games and i never spent any money on them, you know why ? because juste like Aion, lost ark, archeage, Black desert online, the korean games are the most ephemerous, fast forgotten game, in 6 months the game will be forgotten, you are lighting money on fire for no good reason.
@leana339
@leana339 Ай бұрын
When i lived in China when i grew up and moved to Germany i played quite a few Korean games because they where so popular especially in Europe. I'm absolutely not surprised and i'm not even talking about Maplestory games like Silkroad Online or Metin2 where super popular in the early 2000s same for Ragnarok Online (made 2002) or 4story mid 2000s. Those games where never popular really in the US but EU and China so was always surrounded with them. I'm always surprised when people talk about Maple Story but don't seem to know these games when they had a massive impact in the 2000s.
@xd4rkv3lvetx
@xd4rkv3lvetx Ай бұрын
Good video ! You made me have some flashbacks about my maplestory life i had almost 20 years ago for the first time. I freaking loved maplestory, for way more reason than the game being good, which i thought it was, it was so addicting because the simplicity but it was done right. The one thing that made me love maplestory was the social aspect of it, i had so much fun just doing nothing more than sitting outside a place called MarketPlace with a big sign above the entrance. Here you wrote in chat, messed around with monster bags (a bag that could spawn monsters in none monster zones), met friends. Same with the party quest which was so meta that i believe people hardly did normal quest or grinding when party quest was available. About the microtransactions, i think they did it okay at start, some can debate it being pay2win with the double exp coupons they had, or scummy only renting the clothes you bought for real money (you had them for 30-90 days, then they disappeared). For me it wasn't a problem, they had to get money some way to keep servers up. but i fell in another addiction which was new for me, buying mesos (the gold in the game) . felt like a rockstar with having the one of the best items ingame, even if it was fake and bought. I was a kid and wouldn't have wanted or taken a bought victory now as an adult.
@TWEEMASTER2000
@TWEEMASTER2000 Ай бұрын
great video, this has been true for a long time this is really well laid out and presented well
@isaiahyoungofficial
@isaiahyoungofficial Ай бұрын
This video was great, the narrating was really well done.
@ParallaxStella
@ParallaxStella Ай бұрын
Ahhh thank you!!
@Cyael
@Cyael Ай бұрын
Ten seconds in and your salt makes it abundantly clear why games like this can charge and garbage like Concord will rot. It doesn't seem to need story to profit, and dominate so hard you're making a 9 minute video to answer why a free to play game charges. Hopefully the world can be INCLUSIVE enough to allow mature games without sensitivity police. Other games inadvertantly make First Descendants job sooooo easy. Fun, Pretty, Profitable. a Video Game.
@RmX.
@RmX. Ай бұрын
Asmongold brought us here, great video! Wow 10 years of dedication to this channel and only 5k subs, huge respect for this, it only show how much you enjoy making these videos and you don't care about the views, most people would already give up. Keep it up!
@Killahurtz260
@Killahurtz260 Ай бұрын
He also brought me here because I don't want to watch a reaction video.
@Sabolch919
@Sabolch919 Ай бұрын
I wish games that have AAA or AAAA pricing didn't have microtransactions... While I can understand it in F2P games, for highly priced video games its unacceptable.
@Roshofrosho
@Roshofrosho Ай бұрын
This was so interesting & well done. Great upload Stella. Hope you share more of these deep dives!
@ParallaxStella
@ParallaxStella Ай бұрын
Thank you! I'd love to :) I just have to set aside more time for them haha
@japandan7
@japandan7 Ай бұрын
Great video! Also love your massive Staff of Homa in the background 😂
@VarjoPira
@VarjoPira 18 күн бұрын
Your style of expression and voice are excellent for this type of videos.
@markedone5988
@markedone5988 Ай бұрын
i was never the target audience for this type of game, i'm not into rpgs but i love action games, and what i can say, i've fell in the charm of bunny, not only her visuals, but her gameplay is freaking awesome, i've played other looter shooters but never engaged into grindind or endgames, just finished the story and moved on, but with this game i wanted to grind some characters to beat out some bosses, all characters that i've farmed was pretty quick (blair, freyna and sharen), but when i tried gley and ultimate bunny, holy fuck what the hell was happening, the grind is just absurd, and made me drop the game lmao, too bad, it was the first time i was having fun grinding in video games and playing endgame content
@Ashen_Night116
@Ashen_Night116 Ай бұрын
It's how they get you, you have to spend an utterly ridiculous amount of time, just to push the packs that let you buy them outright instead of grinding for them. It's what Nexon did in Vindictus when they released Season 3, the rare materials used for gear had such utterly abysmal rates, that they had a lootbox that had a chance to give you them.
@gali605
@gali605 Ай бұрын
I believe that a more interesting discussion revolves around the issue of wether aggressively marketing micro transactions is always the best business model. It might have been the best model in the past, but now the gaming market is extremely competitive. Today a lot of focus is placed on community relations.
@snakeplissken1754
@snakeplissken1754 Ай бұрын
Free to play games are more expensive than your average premium bundle of a triple a title. Granted, they don´t charge you upfront but the game is often designed to be artificially grindy as eff with convenient real money purchases to "fix" the self made issue.
@gregorh.3919
@gregorh.3919 Ай бұрын
Even if you buy the battlepass (10 bucks) you get a ton of boosters in there which is more than enough for around 50hours of play time.. meanwhile my friend still has Suicide Squad in his library, paid 80 bucks for a shit game.
@nepocrates
@nepocrates Ай бұрын
First off it is not free to play. it is a "Free To Grind, Pay to Skip the Grind, Pay to Customize" Game. That said, I am having a blast in it right now and the grind is real.
@kingcurmudgeon8685
@kingcurmudgeon8685 Ай бұрын
Yeah, It’s pay to win. To save you days maybe weeks of grinding because of a microtransaction. That’s pay to win. Let’s not get cute. Buying an Ultimate Bunny versus trying to farm on and build it out is a huge grind savings. That’s pay to win.
@nepocrates
@nepocrates Ай бұрын
@@kingcurmudgeon8685 Ok what do you win? it is pat to skip the grind. lets say you pay 50,000 dollars today to buy everything you can. What have you won? you have bypassed the grind you did not win anything.
@Demiurge13
@Demiurge13 Ай бұрын
@@nepocrates yea you skipped the grind, that's winning. grind is not fun, excessive grind even less so.
@Demiurge13
@Demiurge13 Ай бұрын
having a blast dies off pretty quickly when the gameplay becomes repetitive and a grindfest. nope no thanks
@nepocrates
@nepocrates Ай бұрын
@@Demiurge13 So if I have nothing left to grind I win? humm interesting my fun comes from the journey not the destination. I am old school you know I guy who played pac man for hour and never got close to level 255. You do you, for me I'll play something till I do not enjoy it anymore such I really never like candyland as a kid so I do not play it as an adult but you break out Fortess America I am there. Enjoy!
@RedShadowOfSaturn
@RedShadowOfSaturn Ай бұрын
2:55 By any chance, have you seen the video SkillUp did about 6 years ago examining what he calls the "Wilson Loot Box?" His research went back to around 2006-2007 with the UEFA Champions League game introducing the Ultimate Team mode (which was basically loot boxes with player cards in them). I'm not pointing this out as a gotcha or contradiction at all, however, apologies if it comes off that way. I just found this interesting to see the connection between a Korean MMO like Maple Story having loot boxes in 2005 and a soccer game available in America introducing the same concept a year or two later. As well as the bridge between corporations eager to take advantage of people, and doing it in a region that might be seen as easy prey or easily maleable from the perspective of the CEOs in charge of those corporations. Kinda what it always seems to come down to. I'm not opposed to microtransations in and of themselves, even pay-to-win or pay-for-convenience types...as long as the game they're in has as many ethical balances as possible, and the devs are paying as much, if not more, attention to the free paths as the paid paths. Anyway, fascinating video!
@jxxn0812
@jxxn0812 Ай бұрын
to add into your comment, actually Nexon publishes fifa in Korea, for decades I think. The mechanic has been perfected, besides to what Stella briefly mentions in the video, I recommend you dive into the History of how Riot went all in into the F2P format, there are titles in Asia that are huge and keep going with this model (for example DnFOnline) but not well known at all here in the West. After all its nice to have more and more videos (not just skillup) to bring this issue
@RedShadowOfSaturn
@RedShadowOfSaturn Ай бұрын
@@jxxn0812 Exactly correct. I will have to look into those as well. Knowing more about this issue and the history of it is helpful to figure out ways to either combat it, or at the very least, lessen and compromise with it. Thank you!
@anthonyfaiell3263
@anthonyfaiell3263 Ай бұрын
I hate that everyone words it like this "take advantage of people." What does this mean? We live in the golden age of technology and information. If you want to learn quantum physics, you can google it and learn it on your own, at your own pace... Yet for some reason we have people that don't have the intelligence to realize they are being blatantly scammed by these models. . Call me an ass hole, and I'm not saying we should do this... But theoretically, if we removed disposable income from anyone under 130 IQ, there would be no more microtransactions in games. And the vast majority of scams would not exist. Because if the consumers won't buy it, it's not profitable, and therefore it will not exist. The sad truth is that it's not the corporations that are the problem, it's the consumers that allow these corporations to be profitable. . Capitalism is designed to have two opposing forces create balance. On one hand, corporations want more money. On the other, consumers want quality products at better deals. Ideally it should meet in the middle if both parties demand respect from each other. But unfortunately society is full of idiot sheep that do not demand respect. So corporations will continue to "take advantage of people" as you put it. And blaming the corporations is counter productive, because shutting down one corporation will simply open up the door for another to do the exact same thing. Until we change the real problem (idiotic consumers) nothing will change.
@drakeyaeger7939
@drakeyaeger7939 Ай бұрын
​@@anthonyfaiell3263 Then you'd basically be enslaving 80% of all people in the world, as the Education Standards Worldwide have lowered to nothing so that governments can rule every1 ... You'd be doing their job for them & ultimately HELPING the LLC. Corpos MORE, as now Government could MANDATE that people HAVE to buy from their sponsored Corpos, or else....
@mr.b89
@mr.b89 Ай бұрын
​@@anthonyfaiell3263 your solution is just to have the people with iqs under 130 to suddenly become smarter with their money? Yeah, people will get smarter over time because that's how society progresses, but until then why are we blaming the easily exploited when the actual problem is sitting right there almost completely free from regulation?
@azure8696
@azure8696 Ай бұрын
WOW I remember playing maple story back in the late 2000's - 2010's and had no idea it was a Korean game.. I feel a little bit cool now 😅😂
@MassiveGhost-
@MassiveGhost- Ай бұрын
"Micro" thats funny
@ninjaroku3247
@ninjaroku3247 Ай бұрын
Great video and helps to put some things in perspective especially for the more global audience that aren't used to MTXs.
@TrevorBelmon
@TrevorBelmon Ай бұрын
I didn't play online games much at all until after I lived in KR in the early 2000's. I spent so much time after work in the nearby PC Bang, sometimes my friends and I would even stay overnight there playing games and just eat Raman and drinks from the vending machines lol. It was a lot of fun though and I don't regret it at all. We also went mountain biking often around the city and to the mall and did other stuff but the PC Bang was so cozy *sigh*
@jjmah7
@jjmah7 Ай бұрын
What do you mean, this isn’t exclusive in any way to Korean games.
@scannerbarkly
@scannerbarkly Ай бұрын
Having watched the video, she never said that microtransactions were exclusive to Korean games, so I'm not sure what point you think you are disagreeing with.
@TheSkyNlnja
@TheSkyNlnja Ай бұрын
Clickbait title
@PrawiSucia_Official
@PrawiSucia_Official Ай бұрын
no it's not exclusive to korean games. But korean games usually have more aggressive microtransactions.
@F_Yale
@F_Yale Ай бұрын
@@TheSkyNlnja How so?
@dgm123x
@dgm123x Ай бұрын
Hey Stella, thanks for bringing this to our attention. I had no idea how bad gaming addiction was in Korea. As for TFD, I am enjoying it, but I refuse to buy any of the microtransactions. I'm sure at one point this game will force me to BUY something but when that happens, I think I'll just drop it and move on. Would love to see more videos like this.
@leohd2040
@leohd2040 Ай бұрын
Got here from podcast unlocked. Great, informative video. The background music made it a bit harder for me to hear clearly, though.
@ParallaxStella
@ParallaxStella Ай бұрын
Oh shoot sorry about that. I thought I had balanced it out better
@nicoinformatics
@nicoinformatics Ай бұрын
There's nothing "predatory" about The First Descendant's microtransactions. "Predatory" is when you're paying for something but has no idea what you'd be getting out of it (eg. lootboxes, gacha, etc.). TFD's microtransactions are just expensive, that's it.
@bukojoetheslapsoils8273
@bukojoetheslapsoils8273 Ай бұрын
There is at least one, the premium enhancement bundle, which costs, if I am not mistaken, around 1200 calibers, and it only contains a few numbers of ultimate gear enhancement materials, which are very easily farmable in-game. The bundle doesn't even say where you can use them so if you know nothing of the game, it sounds like a good deal, until you learn that those stuff can only be used on specific items, and they can be obtained so easily. Yes, you know what you'll get but you won't know what to use them on when you're beginning, plus, its price is absurdly high compared to everything else in the shop.
@TraaaaaasshBooooaaaatttt
@TraaaaaasshBooooaaaatttt 20 күн бұрын
It is predatory. They make it incredibly long to get things so that you are tempted to buy to skip the frustration. It's extremely frustrating to get anything you actually want and need
@Ninjagato465
@Ninjagato465 Ай бұрын
Thank for the background information 😺😺😺
@zerooskil7161
@zerooskil7161 Ай бұрын
Pathways maybe but it doesn’t inject chemicals although its an issue when people drop dead Big thing about descendant is while the prices are egregious for no reason it is also giving direct buy and non of this gambling gatcha bs
@jmmywyf4lyf
@jmmywyf4lyf 19 күн бұрын
World of Warcraft did not introduce microtransactions until the celestial steed, in WotLK
@JDJ1213
@JDJ1213 Ай бұрын
This might be hard to believe, but games from all over the world have an amazing amount of microtransactions nowadays. Might want to revisit that script you’re reading
@Sendoh.153
@Sendoh.153 Ай бұрын
She didn’t say it’s exclusive to Korean games only
@bukojoetheslapsoils8273
@bukojoetheslapsoils8273 Ай бұрын
There's nothing wrong with the script. She's only delimiting her research into one locale which is Korea. If she includes the whole world in the research, the video would have been hours and likely she'll be doing ten times the effort to no benefit.
@TraaaaaasshBooooaaaatttt
@TraaaaaasshBooooaaaatttt 20 күн бұрын
The point is that nexon is korean. Hence the focus on korea for this video
@dragomirandrei2758
@dragomirandrei2758 7 күн бұрын
Korean developers are still the most notorious when it comes to predatory microtransactions
@LordHollow
@LordHollow Ай бұрын
The idea of items dehancing turned me away from BDO. It doesn't get much more predatory than that. I can see not enhancing, but dehancing on the attempt? That's evil.
@I_AM_NOVA.
@I_AM_NOVA. Ай бұрын
Already watched the Asmongold reaction vid, but I'll drop a like and subscribe because from that video, I know your content is so good
@jimmiee5491
@jimmiee5491 Ай бұрын
I am get extremely sick and tired of people complaining about things that they don't have to do. You don't have to buy any microtransactions. If you don't want to. You really don't even have to play the game if you don't want to stop complaining about things that you don't have to do.
@henryzweihander8282
@henryzweihander8282 28 күн бұрын
The game is built to incentivise paying.timers for crafting taking upwards of 10 hours just so you can pay to skip them. Long, RNG based grinds that can gail to reward your efforts for indeterminate periods of time can be bypassed with cash. These sorts of mechanics gaining traction in games that you can spend the restrictions away isn't a coincidence. Yes, you can chose not to, but the design intent is to clearly offer a slower, more repettitive and higher friction experience to those that don't pay up.
@Renoistic
@Renoistic 26 күн бұрын
If the game shoves the store in my face all the time I will uninstall because it's annoying and gross.
@TraaaaaasshBooooaaaatttt
@TraaaaaasshBooooaaaatttt 20 күн бұрын
Nobody is complaining about the microtransactions on it's own. The complaint is how egregious the grind is, in order to attempt to make you spend money. Having a grind is not the problem either it's how long you have to grind to get one thing and then how long you have to grind to get catalysts, and then how long it takes to grind to get it maxed. They are intentionally making everything take extremely long to do
@davidmorris6254
@davidmorris6254 Ай бұрын
That was actually a history lesson. Thanks, I learned something
@paulanderson2963
@paulanderson2963 Ай бұрын
Just saw this video over by Zack's place. I appreciate anyone who can give a rational take on a topic. I subscribed and look forward to seeing what else this channel has to offer.
@LuxeGamingXD
@LuxeGamingXD Ай бұрын
Great video and great insights, recommended from twitch
@FuPlaayz
@FuPlaayz Ай бұрын
Stella, you forgot to mention Energy Activators, there are literally make you stronger. It's EXTREMELY long to farm or you can pay 20$
@bukojoetheslapsoils8273
@bukojoetheslapsoils8273 Ай бұрын
Yup, whereas in Warframe, a catalyst/reactor is 20 plats, like just around a dollar.
@Andy_Paris
@Andy_Paris Ай бұрын
Who gives a ish? Seriously? The entire point of playing games like this is for the grind! That's what makes it so fun! You are earning your strength through gameplay, not real world money! Loot based games is my favorite genre of gaming, and if I know I can pay real world money to get what I want faster, then it defeats the purpose, incentive, and motivation to play, because I CAN JUST BUY IT. Imagine playing the board game Monopoly, and I pay real world money to another player to get more hotels on the board, it defeats the spirit of the game in itself, just like TFD. In the TFD, I can buy rare materials to skip the grind. For what? To make the game easier without actually playing the game to earn that same level of power. TFD isn't an exciting game for me due to all of these systems, the devs made these systems to get people to think about paying to skip through it. I play every looter shooter there is and enjoyed most of them, except for the new S.S. KtJL game because I never bothered with it. If they add a character that I actually like, then maybe I'll play TFD again if anything, otherwise, the very thing that makes this game fun, is diluted in a sea of mtx.
@TraaaaaasshBooooaaaatttt
@TraaaaaasshBooooaaaatttt 20 күн бұрын
Not everyone wants to spend 2,3,4 days even a week trying to get one blueprint. It's tedious and frustrating. A few hours. Maybe 2 hours and you have all the blueprints. Not potentially days. That is stupid and will turn a lot of people off the game
@25TaRtH14
@25TaRtH14 Ай бұрын
Really good video!! thanks
@adam.maqavoy
@adam.maqavoy Ай бұрын
I'm used to it and love the *S.Korean* Audience anyway..! So many awesome & gorgeous looking people. At least I can be 'Normal'with them (something I can't with the west & woke ppl)
@Theorigamicrane170
@Theorigamicrane170 Ай бұрын
It's still not as bad as Destiny 2, but I haven't seen anyone make that comparison.
@Barney0815
@Barney0815 Ай бұрын
True Destiny 2 is the laziest Scam of all
@GigglesD2
@GigglesD2 Ай бұрын
Focus on the drop rates and costs are nothing. They are using an algorithm to manipulate the drop rates real-time. I have proven it by running 50 runs for 5 different weapons at 2 different times. 1 was 50 runs with 0 to 2 parts already found and 50 with all parts except 1 found. Also did same test on a different account. Found 1: when you are farming for a part with 0 to 2 already found, drop rate was near posted. That goes for 3rd part drop along with parts 1 and 2. 2: the same part when it is the last part needed and the drop rate goes to less the 1%. Last part drop chance varied depending on weapon but was never the lowest and most were around 30%. One data set is, out of 50 runs for the Fallen Hope and its last part, I received the 3% item from amorphouos 47 times and random stuff 3 others. Final part did not drop till 73rd attempt but did not include in % after 50. Same part dropped in less then 2 runs when it wasnt the last needed for all tested items. Did this on Python, Divine Punishment, Fallen Hope, Blue Beetle and one other. For Python, I am at over 120 amorphous openings and still haven't got the 3% blueprint drop. Also noticed but still testing that drops have a higher chance to drop within the first 0 to 3 hours of gaming meaning after 3 hours drops decrease and some go to near zero. Most of the above tests varied in play time from 1 to 10 hours which is why I am now checking where the drop off is. This game is scamming people. Low drop rates boosts time in game and also pushes you to the store. If you spend 30 hours on one part, either weapon or character, you will have that in mind when you want the next and will tend to buy over grind.
@PersianGamer36
@PersianGamer36 Ай бұрын
Just because a game is pve doesn’t mean it can’t have pay to win tactics
@davidtorres9489
@davidtorres9489 Ай бұрын
Asmongold was right this video is great subscribed
@bannedmann4469
@bannedmann4469 Ай бұрын
Because Koreans fall for this harder than most.
@myleft9397
@myleft9397 Ай бұрын
asmon sent me good video
@yusuffulat6954
@yusuffulat6954 Ай бұрын
great video !
@jmmywyf4lyf
@jmmywyf4lyf 19 күн бұрын
I do not play any game if it has even a minor microtransaction. Microtransactions should remain solely in free-to-play games, and I don't play free-to-play games either
@mbphilipblack8993
@mbphilipblack8993 Ай бұрын
I think it's just a problem with FREE TO PLAY games in general but it's a necessary evil as they have to make money somehow not ever player will grind so it becomes a godsend/convenience to pay to progress rather than pay to win. With The 1st Descendant luke any F2P yeah you can't just play and progress I've picked Lepiv and I'll could just play the whole game with him but i do want to try Blair, Sharen and probably Ajax and Valby. But there each like £20 As compared to the £70-80 Ultimate versions there's no point in buying these yes the Skins are COOL AF Bunny and Lepic look amazing each for different reasons 😏 but they're simply cosmetic with some extra perks but not worth the full price of a game. My problems are the colours being single use as its disgusting, no eay to earn Caliber without paying real world money and the fact the company has been sued before are my issues more so than parts of the game itself I'm liking it so far though.
@GoalOrientedLifting
@GoalOrientedLifting Ай бұрын
its wild to see how games are allowed to groom kids into gamers and gamblers. theres no other industry like it. and NO laws really protect kids. whats insane today will be deemed normal within next 20 years because of this. if you see kids games on phones these days, its insane how predatory they are
@JuzMe706
@JuzMe706 Ай бұрын
I’m don’t feel bad not owning Ultimate characters. I’m fine with Freyna, Base Bunny and base Viessa.
@lordraynation6178
@lordraynation6178 Ай бұрын
I use to play maplestory and DFO in middle and high school on pc and yes the microtransaction were there since the beginning, so on that note TFD doesn't shock me it's basically all TIME SAVER mechanics.
@KacomGaming
@KacomGaming Ай бұрын
You summed everything up very well. Nothing will be done to prevent people from spending money on useless in game objects, as long as the companies pay their taxes. I remember those old maple story days... people did spend quite a bit of money. You knew who they were based on their characters lol. I just taped my attack button down and hoped to gain XP while at school. Some people truly do not realize they DO NOT have to spend money to play, or that there are less scammy games in existence.
@NickBLeaveIt
@NickBLeaveIt Ай бұрын
When Korean devs are making single player only, one-purchase games with no microtransactions such as Dave the Diver, Lies of P, and Stellar Blade, giving a flying hoot about any of these live services, FTP or not, is even more pathetic. Just because a lot of people are doing something doesn't make the thing OK.
@cj1426
@cj1426 Ай бұрын
I’m from Warframe so the micro transactions didn’t surprise me. What I think they need to do is have a trading system implemented. I just trade with other players get in game currency and buy cosmetics. Plus they give out 75% discounts everyone once a while.
@ParallaxStella
@ParallaxStella Ай бұрын
Yeah usually PvE microtransactions don't feel like microtransactions but it's still frustrating to see the pricing and boosts you can get from real money
@stuartbagley2586
@stuartbagley2586 Ай бұрын
@@FEWGEE1TFD is also free to play.
@paradoxwraith5275
@paradoxwraith5275 Ай бұрын
Don't count on this. It's nexon. So trading system has next to 0 chance of being added.
@Phillipmurr
@Phillipmurr Ай бұрын
@@paradoxwraith5275 it’s in development. They are indeed making a trade system.
@bolbol95
@bolbol95 Ай бұрын
Warframe microt is heaven compare to korean or the first descendant to be specific
@gaming4K
@gaming4K Ай бұрын
You can grind to earn new characters. UNTIL YOU HIT THE PAYWALL!!!!!!!! 10 slots if you hit that which is not hard to do you gonna get taxed if you wanna keep unlocking new every character!
@TheRadioSquare
@TheRadioSquare Ай бұрын
Great video, glad it showed up in recommendations
@nhaskell
@nhaskell Ай бұрын
Touched by Asmon...
@CakeMelons
@CakeMelons Ай бұрын
Hey, maybe story is not comparable to Bunny's cake, but it's not that bad, it gets better. I just finished it. 😊
@djline2
@djline2 Ай бұрын
thanks this video helped me sleep
@PersianGamer36
@PersianGamer36 Ай бұрын
In other words American gamers are wiser with money
@KnotsOfWonders
@KnotsOfWonders Ай бұрын
I agree on the good story lines and plot 😎
@gali605
@gali605 Ай бұрын
I ran out of space. As I was saying, when the gaming community, rightly or wrongly, views the developer as being greedy they review bomb the game. This greatly lowers the player base as well as the potential profit from the game. You have to stress community relations and improving the game. If you do this, the player base will become huge and it will be easy to monetize the game. Nexon should learn from DE.
@anthony4571
@anthony4571 Ай бұрын
Having a korean-made tag is such a ick to me. Highly polish graphic & gameplay but with a shitty predatory monetization system.
@MrBalrogos
@MrBalrogos Ай бұрын
Graphics not so good beside character models rest map is average and most rocks have low 1k res textures same problem was in Hellblade 2, i think becouse rocks are made with nanite and it using generic low res textures, i rather have high res lower poly rocks that high poly rocks but soapy one. overall game budget would be around 200.000$ usd for the game they copied 95% mechanics and mods from warframe.
@MrBalrogos
@MrBalrogos Ай бұрын
and i forgot the main problem in graphics fidelity is TAA temporal artifacts, u cant turn off TAA even is use use 4k screen or using DLAA or FSR NativeAA
@adam.maqavoy
@adam.maqavoy Ай бұрын
@@RicochetForce Ragnarok online oh boy! Now Thats a *Nostalgia trip* down Memory Lane
@summer7603
@summer7603 Ай бұрын
NA games suck more. That's the bar now. People be playing gachas and this MMO looter shooter over the wreckage of the AAA gaming industry because bottomline is it still manages to deliver fun. The audience has spoken.
@RicochetForce
@RicochetForce Ай бұрын
@@adam.maqavoy Yup, while posting that I started remembering the Prontera theme.
@VengeDracul
@VengeDracul Ай бұрын
I give a shit, when a game is constantly looking at my Wallet, there is a problem. Cause a game like TFD says you can't have this unless you buy it. Since there is no other way to get it. Just cause the chosen few don't care, there is a ton that actually do. A game like Warframe has a trade system so you don't need to use real money for anything in the game. Unless you really want to. But TFD has a pay wall for Skin, a Skin should never need a paywall. It changes nothing in a game, game play wise. There are games that you can buy and the game gives you skins for free. Stellar Blade is known for this and is made by a Korean Devs too. There are simple ways to make Microtransactions understandable. But not many Devs care to do that. Some of it is actually a greedy practice. It has been said for years it about Greed.
@bakerfresh
@bakerfresh Ай бұрын
Hey, I support the hard work women put in..amd the jobs thry do that nobody wants... Like.. The Maid. And when my character wears it, and saves the world. That's for all the times the house maid didnt get any sick pay. And when i purposefully act like i cant climb up a little cliff so i have to crawl up repeatedly...thats for, that's... Okay, that ones for me. So like 2, maybe 3 dollars out of the 25 bucks is for me!?! Bruh?
@Alex4n3r
@Alex4n3r Ай бұрын
"micro"
@VampireNoblesse
@VampireNoblesse Ай бұрын
nowonder you have a negative take on this game / genre.., you have an IGN pillow in the background
@uh-ooooh
@uh-ooooh Ай бұрын
anyone know the song in the background? super relaxing
@mattius3411
@mattius3411 Ай бұрын
Being only pve doesn't mean you can't have p2w
@sercho9499
@sercho9499 Ай бұрын
Progress faster is pay to win in a PvE game.
@sammymario3243
@sammymario3243 Ай бұрын
My dad gambles too much. I'd also like to say First Descendant looks fun to play but I do not like any of the character models. Maybe in a couple years when they add new characters, I will buy alot of Micro-transactions. Hopefully the game will last long. Hell Anthem is still playable online so im hopeful this game will be around in say 5 years 🧐
@arocomisgamusclademork1603
@arocomisgamusclademork1603 Ай бұрын
Just buy a game does not need internet required even verify its UE5 game engine use like Remake classic Spyro
@baytownoutlaw9992
@baytownoutlaw9992 Ай бұрын
The xp boost is a joke you can lvl up so fast in this game it really is a no issue stop making up things to be mad at ppl. The lack of ammo is a problem somebody with more money than brains buying a xp boost is not
@sussy_61
@sussy_61 Ай бұрын
i used to look at 500$ lootboxes when it comes to asian games, then this game happened.60$ for a skin is better
@TraaaaaasshBooooaaaatttt
@TraaaaaasshBooooaaaatttt 20 күн бұрын
The price of a full game for a skin is good? Lol
@JonOhFun
@JonOhFun Ай бұрын
"Why do Korean games have microtransactions? That's a good question" The answer is money. The devs like money. 🤷‍♂️
@anthonyfaiell3263
@anthonyfaiell3263 Ай бұрын
This is much deeper problem than just that. I promise if we remove this product, other products will take it's place. The devs aren't the problem. The people that make microtransactions a profitable venture are the problem. Until they are gone, microtransactions will continue to exist. . The good news is, those types of people do not play games that don't have microtransactions in them. Because then they actually have engage with the game, rather than just throwing money at it to achieve victory. So if we just avoid freemium games and any game with microtransactions, we avoid these idiots. And we play our part towards trying to prevent these scams from being profitable.
@arocomisgamusclademork1603
@arocomisgamusclademork1603 Ай бұрын
Does perpetual video game sell very well in Korean? ​@@anthonyfaiell3263
@Demiurge13
@Demiurge13 Ай бұрын
@@anthonyfaiell3263 i generally do avoid those games
@Nyyvv
@Nyyvv Ай бұрын
MS has the same thing with Halo, Forza and so on just like Ubisoft💀 only they want 70$ from you first
@panoctic
@panoctic Ай бұрын
they straight copy warframe model but increased prices lol, I know they invented the stufff but this time they copy the homework.
@Barney0815
@Barney0815 Ай бұрын
Ok…so they forgot the 129$ Protea Prime Bundle from Warframe?
@panoctic
@panoctic Ай бұрын
@@Barney0815 yes lol. that means adding three ultimate weapons along side their energy activators of course given the ultimate activators are worth more than reactors in warframe that means minimum nexon has to charge 180 lol
@TraaaaaasshBooooaaaatttt
@TraaaaaasshBooooaaaatttt 20 күн бұрын
​@@Barney0815yes prime warframe bundles are ridiculously expensive.....but it also doesnt take 3 days to farm those same primes. And those bundles also give you platinum. So you get the prime, the 2 prime weapons and they come pre slotted with catalysts and you also get a warframe and weapon slots, 2 prime cosmetics and the appropriate amount of platinum. So it's more "worth" it. But you can literally just trade to get the prime and if you dont want to trade it can take maybe 2 or 3 hours to get the prime if you have bad luck. When you compare it to warframe it's just terrible value. 100 for one ultimate. And thats it. No caliber no catalysts no extra slots nothing
@JinroToad
@JinroToad Ай бұрын
It was ok analysis until she suddenly talks about gaming disorder and addictions. I dont know why she brings up extreme cases with old articles that aren't even common and already struck down cinderella law made by boomer politicians who demonize the game itself. South Korea is NOT trying to combat gaming addiction like she said. ​It's more like politicians/doctors(usually christians, psychiatrists) vs gamers/gaming industry at least in Korea.
@chriskim514
@chriskim514 Ай бұрын
Exactly. And it's not even a accurate analysis given the situation at the time when online game era started. btw, who still believe WHO even after Covid?
@JasonSmith-pn6ch
@JasonSmith-pn6ch Ай бұрын
If you didn't have these micro transactions you'd have a $70 price tag and quite frankly, I'm enjoying playing this far more than I did Diablo4 which I paid $70 for only to be met with battle pass and micro transaction, DLC on top which I will not buy. I bought the battle pass for First Decendant and feel it was well worth the price, $10. The Ultimate stuff is not even on my radar.
@jmmywyf4lyf
@jmmywyf4lyf 19 күн бұрын
Pay to win is anything that affects your character, power, speeds up progression, add stats, is a weapon or armor, yes.. the more you gen Z years play games and like games with microtransactions the more ridiculous definitions you come up with to try to obfuscate what is blatant pay to win
@Longjumping-War2484
@Longjumping-War2484 Ай бұрын
Is nobody going to mention gatcha games in the east? Or how about dlc's in the west for the most part! It's all about perspective, really! To me, TFD is worth a $69.99 US price tag, as that's what it would've cost if it was sold like a stand-alone! So I paid that much for a currency bundle! Anything after that would be considered a paid dlc, which is not required to run the game! That's typical in the western and Japanese market. But it's perspective! It's like the difference between a lease vs and a purchase! No money down will get you a car, but will cost you more in the long run!
@kingcurmudgeon8685
@kingcurmudgeon8685 Ай бұрын
First Descendant is a fun game. However, it is pay to win. Saying it isn’t becuase you can grind for it is BS. If you can pay $100 to save you 100s of hours of playtime m. That’s okay to win. Period.
@Minmataro718
@Minmataro718 Ай бұрын
I've been gaming for four decades. Games have microtransactions for two reasons. One, a game is free to play. If you arent paying upfront then the money has to come in somehow. microtransactions. Two, high cost of development and its a way to actually earn money from players that buy used games. this is also why consoles charge for multiplayer access.
@douglaslevati7030
@douglaslevati7030 Ай бұрын
I only got 3 decades on me. People didn't want to pay monthly subscriptions for some game they only wanted to play for a few months, but that kind of payment was intended only for those who stick around. They used micro transactions to bypass this, but those who don't pay are always the ones who complain the most. Now you have critiques saying there is too much in the cash shop. You don't go to a restaurant to buy everything, and I really doubt that anyone every paid for every single item on the menu during all their visits combined.
@henryzweihander8282
@henryzweihander8282 28 күн бұрын
Your second reason is self inflicted. Many great games without microtransactions continue to come out and are enabled by simply having budgetary controls. The real reason games have microtransactions is just money in the end. A breakout hit live service can keep paying off beyond the initial sale. Buying a single descendant bundle here costs more than a typical game and can be potentially repeated several times already, more still as they add new characters.
@azmalguthek4502
@azmalguthek4502 Ай бұрын
Nexon hasn't ever made a good game, and that's not hyperbole. They are literally only kept afloat by addicts with low standards. Go look at their catalogue.
@summer7603
@summer7603 Ай бұрын
For almost a decade most of the big publishers and games studios have decided to not make games for gamers who like fanservice. I happily gave this korean game the $60 i would've bought another title with to support their game and get my ultimate skin. The story sucks but the gameplay loop is just like old times when destiny 2 still gave af.
@MrBalrogos
@MrBalrogos Ай бұрын
0:08 it is not looter shooter again, why people call those games looter shooter?, Looter SHooter is borderlands and division the rules are simple 1. You shoot enemy you pick up the loot you equip it to get stronger. 2. Read point 1. TFD and WARFRAME and DESTINY are ACTION COOP/MULTIPLAYER(NOT AN MMO) TPP SHOOTER with RPG elements. God dammnit dont mix game generes!
@bukojoetheslapsoils8273
@bukojoetheslapsoils8273 Ай бұрын
TFD is looter shooter. It matches your "point 1." Have you not played the game? Even the devs wrote it is a looter shooter in their Steam description.
@MrBalrogos
@MrBalrogos Ай бұрын
@@bukojoetheslapsoils8273 No it doesnt, ur power and stuff are from mods, the few colored weapon and reactors are not mean its looter shooter it would if they removed other mechanics, i told you Looter shooter rules are simple and they derived from hack n slash like diablo. After you reach hardmode you cant increase ur power cause tis impossible no new weaponm drops, unqiue weapons need to be build. TFD/Warframe are Action TPP Shooter with an RPG element.
@bukojoetheslapsoils8273
@bukojoetheslapsoils8273 Ай бұрын
@@MrBalrogos So, let's pretend that when you reach endgame in other looter games, there's still gears with higher level than the level cap. -_- TFD is a looter shooter with added mechanics. Your gun mods are useless when used on low level gears. I don't know why you choose to ignore the whole mechanics of the game leading up to the endgame content. Very nit-picky of you. Just because you're in the endgame grind doesn't mean the looter shooter phase that lead to it is gone.
@Thexis_
@Thexis_ Ай бұрын
Aside from the skins, I don't see anything in the shop I can't get by playing the game and I am enjoying playing the game. So personally, I have no issues with the prices in the cash shop, since I do not intent on buying anything for now.
@ParallaxStella
@ParallaxStella Ай бұрын
I love that!
@joebuydem
@joebuydem Ай бұрын
Dying from grinding a game is kinnda …based. Js.
@Chomza15
@Chomza15 Ай бұрын
To be honest, the South Koreans and Chinese game devs can continue to make games with micro-transactions at tenfold. Here's why I have no problem them doing so: 1: Shift Up started off with mobile games, made enough money and invested that money into making a great single-player in recent times 2: Chinese and South Korean devs are bringing sexy back into gaming. Yes, I said!!! I'm tired of ugly women in games and propaganda pushed by western and Japanese game devs & studios. My call to everyone: SUPPORT THIS GAME AND SOUTH KOREAN & CHINESE DEVS. THEY ARE PURITY IN GAMING 💯
@gregorychapman6162
@gregorychapman6162 Ай бұрын
The skins in this game look so good. Put Ajax in a Dino suit like I did and tank everything. So much fun 😂. Love this game and for the prices of most games today putting 50 to 100 in descendant ain’t bad and now I have 6 characters already. All with their own skins and colors are cheap.
@rockmegaman
@rockmegaman Ай бұрын
THE BALD MAN HAS COMMANDED ME TO COME TO THIS CHANNEL. AND AFTER ANALYZING YOUR CONTENT YOU ARE IN FACT FIT TO BARE MY SUBSCRIPTION, AND FOR TIP YOU CAN HAVE MY LIKE AS WELL. STAY BLESSED AND BE PROSPEROUS
@progamingmode4102
@progamingmode4102 Ай бұрын
I hope that the bald man will grace me as well in the near future.
@datenschutz6123
@datenschutz6123 Ай бұрын
Such an "in general video" and not much First Decendent specific. Your script can be taken 95% for any other Game with MTX, as if we needed a teacher on it at this point.
@Amodernvikingr
@Amodernvikingr Ай бұрын
Alot of western games have may more microtransactions... 😂
@ParallaxStella
@ParallaxStella Ай бұрын
They do *now* the point is that it wasn't always this way! Korean games have had a ton of microtransactions almost from the beginning
@nootsgaming5517
@nootsgaming5517 Ай бұрын
No not Korean games why does a free to play game have micro transactions hmmmm i wonder if it to make money but it’s just they’re typically are more aggressive on it
@styxicrix2587
@styxicrix2587 Ай бұрын
Needs pvp frfr once I have everything ima stop playing. lol like it’s gonna die quick if the only thing to do is farm and wait for story updates. Like nah u gon lose retention QUICK
@TraaaaaasshBooooaaaatttt
@TraaaaaasshBooooaaaatttt 20 күн бұрын
Especially if the farm is so long. I just finished the story and I'm already so fed up of the grind. I may as well just go back to warframe which is less grind
@jrpgnation6375
@jrpgnation6375 Ай бұрын
I played it and had a bit of fun. Saw the store and walk away. I don't have the money or fucks to give, to give them money. One of the main reasons I quit is the battle pass. I haven't seen battle past this bad since Overwatch 2 battle passes.
@FunElite
@FunElite Ай бұрын
The moment you said there is basically no P2W because it is PvE I stopped watching. Stupid take. P2W is not PvP exclusive, there is a lot of P2W stuff in TFD.
@acegear
@acegear Ай бұрын
its an asian game expect to have mtx to coupe the investment in making the game
@xCuddleCatx
@xCuddleCatx Ай бұрын
“It’s pay to win” -What do you win? Skipping the entire game? How’s that winning? You’ve essentially stripped yourself from everything you could do in the game. Where’s the victory in that? “The game makes the grind inconvenient so you’ll be incentivized to buy from the shop” -If you don’t like the grind which is the entire core of this game btw, then why would you toss money at it? If you don’t like what is essentially the entirety of what the game is supposed to be then why are you giving them money? Just stop playing. “They hire top tier psychologists to manipulate you to want to buy” -So you’re a weak minded individual who has no accountability for your actions or self control with your spending habits? “The grind is too long” -Maybe you’re right but you this is entirely subjective. I personally like the grind and would never pay for a character because my joy comes from obtaining the items from hard work. The games been out for about a week and people are already obtaining ultimate characters. I already have 5 characters just from playing the story as do my friends who also play. “The shops way overpriced” -This is the one thing I agree on but imo, just don’t buy anything and earn it by playing the game like most of the player base “But I don’t have time to grind” -Tbh then this game probably isn’t for you and you’re gonna have to suck it up. Now if you have the money to spend comfortably then by all means go ahead “Nexon will squeeze you for every penny and rob you blind” -How are they going to rob you? By you willingly putting in your card information and authorizing a transaction to them completely by your own decision? Interesting. “You’re justifying predatory practices” -I’m not, and truthfully I wish the prices in the shop weren’t so bad because I want more people to like this game and keep its player base healthy. What I am doing though is getting people to take some accountability for once in their life and stop acting like the free game is holding a gun to your head and making you play or spend money.
@that80ssongyoulove84
@that80ssongyoulove84 Ай бұрын
Nexon blatantly lied and got caught with their pants down, so I do t know what you’re on about. Maybe not be a walking billboard for these types of games and blindly defend them. They have problems, and they need to talked about, such as addiction, in which you casually insulted everyone that has to deal with it. Your comment is part of the problem.
@xCuddleCatx
@xCuddleCatx Ай бұрын
@@that80ssongyoulove84 Well let’s use your own logic and apply that across the board to put some perspective on your ideals. Gaming as a whole is an actual medical addiction that can damage someone’s life. We’ve seen it on plenty of occasions. If you really cared about the addictions that come from gaming then games should only be allowed to be played for 2 hours a day before shutting off for 24 hours. How far down the rabbit hole should we baby proof and police gaming to cater to individuals with no personal responsibility?
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