Why THE IDOL Episode 5 Is The WORST Season Finale Of All Time

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I review, breakdown and explain The Idol Episode 5. I discuss the season finale starring Lily Rose Depp and The Weeknd and state why it is the worst finale of a show. I react to the ending, controversy, and the characters such as Joss, Tedros, Destiny, Chloe, Leia, Izaak and Xander. I also give my theories and predictions on if there will be a season 2.
00:00 Intro
00:39 It Felt Like An Episode Was Cut
03:40 The Ending
05:20 We Spent Most Of The Episode At The Showcase
06:06 Was There Anything Good?
07:48 Outro
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@BrainPilot
@BrainPilot 11 ай бұрын
The Idol is a show that I definitely feel had bags of potential in it, so it is a shame that it never really picked a route and decided to roll with it, or even handle the more serious subject matters. What did you think of the season finale? Comment your thoughts below!
@mazonc11
@mazonc11 11 ай бұрын
I feel like with this episode and it being the finale so many confusing messages about abuse and the victims of abuse are being sent out and the audience is not interpreting it the right way either. I know the episode just aired but so many people online are now writing off the abuse that Jocelyn endured from her mother even though her whole team corroborated it because of what she did to Tedros. Saying she made it all up. Now with these last two episodes the show is trying to to make us feel sympathy for his terrible character. Not mention Robs career being the casualty of these two, and it not being clear if Joss purposely invited him over to not only have Tedros do something to him but to get back at him for cheating.
@AmandaVieiraMamaesouCult
@AmandaVieiraMamaesouCult 11 ай бұрын
@@mazonc11 Yes, people are like "Joss is the real villain", or "she is as worse as him" when he literally tortured an ex girlfriend for 3 days.
@oXogon80
@oXogon80 11 ай бұрын
You said it, it had a lot of potential. For example that one actor - The Weeknd - was totaly underused. He would have made a great backround character or an even greater extra.
@Liz_in_the_OC
@Liz_in_the_OC 11 ай бұрын
@@mazonc11I found it confusing about her mother too but I can assume her mother was controlling but didn’t actually beat her with a hairbrush
@mayln163
@mayln163 11 ай бұрын
If she made up up the abuse, how come Xander and Leia went along with it? Was she the one that sought Tedros instead of the other way around?
@zack7438
@zack7438 11 ай бұрын
The Idol's 'empowering' message was that women are responsible for the abuse they suffer.
@bees.857
@bees.857 11 ай бұрын
And in the end, she's still with a rat tailed loser.
@bees.857
@bees.857 11 ай бұрын
​@@demi8890Dude everyone got the 'message'. I don't get why all these big brains are trying to EXPLAIN the show like we don't know. We GET IT, it just sucks
@komerihimura
@komerihimura 11 ай бұрын
@@demi8890Even with that though, just making the actress being objectified and showing off her body regardless if it was intentional or not and putting her character in these weird scenarios just to bamboozle us at the end that she was the bad guy all along, not only did it feel forced but it also felt misogynistic on the writers (mostly for sam and the weeknd) while also undermining what Tedros does to her. i just woke up, so forgive me if i said anything wrong here
@thisisus2082
@thisisus2082 11 ай бұрын
What the fuck was the message?
@riyahill9042
@riyahill9042 11 ай бұрын
​@@demi8890just stop...
@nont18411
@nont18411 11 ай бұрын
Joss being the villain only works if she’s a well-written character in the first place. What we got is that she’s always victimized by everyone else around her. There’s no character or foundation outside her trauma that will make Joss being the bad guy believable. And Weeknd becoming a true victim in the end sends really weird message to the audience. Yeah, those people abused a poor girl but they are right because the girl is the bad guy all along. Maybe we need Amy Seimetz cut like the Snydercut of this show for more female aka more Jocelyn’s perspective.
@marius4iasi
@marius4iasi 11 ай бұрын
She wasn't the villain,though. She got the control she was struggling to have in the beginning, how is that villainous?
@mahika8603
@mahika8603 11 ай бұрын
Pretty much explains selena gomez
@ismaelhayes9317
@ismaelhayes9317 11 ай бұрын
"Joss being the villain only works if she’s a well-written character in the first place." She's a mess.... Then again, I watched all this for Dyanne.
@ivideszatigny4163
@ivideszatigny4163 11 ай бұрын
​@@mahika8603 do you think, this is inspire it by selena gomez and the weekend experience? And the way she use him...?
@mahika8603
@mahika8603 11 ай бұрын
@@ivideszatigny4163 yes, the way jocelyn cheated on tedros w rob its giving dejavu of justin and selena gomez, selena did cheat on Abel its true but she ofc didnt get back w Abel but yes that part gives a lot of deja vu about their relationship and its kind of obvious how selena used justin for inspiration, if she loved justin beiber so much she would ofc said yes to the marriage but justin was like her one fav ex, her obsession and inspiration, which tedros is for jocelyn, jocelyn plays victim card a lot so does selena and both are manipulative so it's pretty much giving selena gomez
@kgoulding1237
@kgoulding1237 11 ай бұрын
While an extra episode would have explained more, I think it's better this show just ends, it's just a mess.
@15Candles
@15Candles 11 ай бұрын
Maybe this show will end after the first season but that probably won't stop Levinson in making more stuff like this. Depends if the HBO executives still trust him or not, i hope not
@vixxp2856
@vixxp2856 11 ай бұрын
@@15Candles he can't keep getting away with this bs
@Dani-lc9hq
@Dani-lc9hq 11 ай бұрын
I mean you can't really explain things that don't add up.... like her not wanting to speak about her trauma when they all had dinner but then going public immediately when Tedros said she should, to in the end it turning into something she apparently made up (the hair brush scene), or her going from having a break down at her video shoot to being the mastermind who outsmarted the pimp and planned it all... even the idea of using him for inspiration... how would it actually be inspiration if you did it on purpose and plan it... that's not how inspiration works... It seems more like when Sam took over the left pieces of the old plot and added his own, turned her into a villian without properly revising the beginning.
@lucastodd6951
@lucastodd6951 11 ай бұрын
They really be trying to make Tedros the nice guy after he tortured everyone and made a cult
@BrainPilot
@BrainPilot 11 ай бұрын
Lol, that's true!
@NaGaLaGaL
@NaGaLaGaL 11 ай бұрын
neeko!!
@QuoteBlink
@QuoteBlink 11 ай бұрын
Smile because It ended
@TheBostonboy95
@TheBostonboy95 11 ай бұрын
Cry because it happened
@Moonhammer79
@Moonhammer79 11 ай бұрын
Laugh because it failed
@monicasharma1477
@monicasharma1477 11 ай бұрын
😂😅
@melaniecostapereira1639
@melaniecostapereira1639 11 ай бұрын
Cringe because I watched it.
@LELABTV
@LELABTV 11 ай бұрын
🥂
@chaerryoung_
@chaerryoung_ 11 ай бұрын
Don’t Smile because it’s over, cry because it happened Edit: Omg thanks for the likes
@naniebella1645
@naniebella1645 11 ай бұрын
I legit almost spit out my coffee reading this lMfao
@erenslice5430
@erenslice5430 11 ай бұрын
oh lmao this was my yearbook quote last year
@greggyju
@greggyju 11 ай бұрын
Did you really just thank people for likes.. lmao
@chaerryoung_
@chaerryoung_ 11 ай бұрын
@@naniebella1645 the fact that we were all excited about this show at one point is funnier then my comment
@3m3gz50
@3m3gz50 11 ай бұрын
LMAOOOO
@jimmylu1352
@jimmylu1352 11 ай бұрын
I’m constantly amazed how little story the show achieved with 5 hours worth of time. So many storylines doesn’t go anywhere, characters just changing up their behaviors from one scene to another. Writing and pacing was terrible, some scenes go on for way too long and the little red riding hood metaphor makes no sense towards the story. I can’t believe after dreading with the super long performance scene, Jocelyn doesn’t even perform? Like the whole team is there to see her give a great performance to show them that she can sell tickets and all she did was a strip tease?? how does that convince Andrew that she can sell out a stadium?? The show’s messages are all over the place. One minute they’re saying pop music is shallow, next they’re saying sex sells? Tedros being painted as this victim falling in love with the wrong girl and Jocelyn being this master manipulator is just complete bullshit and misogynistic. Would’ve love to see Leia finally stood up for herself or have one last scene with Joce before she quit, but that didn’t even happen. This show had potential, but it was just buried with so many unnecessary things. But i guess i shouldn’t expect more from Sam Levinson
@iiexis7824
@iiexis7824 11 ай бұрын
COuldn't have worded it better!
@charithadissanayake3304
@charithadissanayake3304 11 ай бұрын
@0912sooli
@0912sooli 11 ай бұрын
Probably cause they cut few episodes out
@carsenreid1710
@carsenreid1710 11 ай бұрын
Yes!! The issues are glaringly obvious-to that my brain melts even more how much the cast/Sam are protecting it as if that helps their reputations. I can’t imagine being Lily in this situation-I would lose it if a different story was set by a female, then cut and destroyed by Sam making all of it for nothing because it doesn’t even make sense. The unnecessary moments of her character minimize many moments of incredible work she put in. I just can’t get over it 😵‍💫
@TheWeekndXOunstoppAbel
@TheWeekndXOunstoppAbel 11 ай бұрын
​@@0912soolinot probably, that's the reason. The TV SHOW has been EPIC.
@magicmicah05
@magicmicah05 11 ай бұрын
Now I'm REALLY curious to see the original show directed by Amy Seimetz. It HAS to be better than what we actually got, right, RIGHT?!?!?!!!?
@BrainPilot
@BrainPilot 11 ай бұрын
I feel like it would have to be
@_tardigrade
@_tardigrade 11 ай бұрын
For sure.
@Novafan
@Novafan 11 ай бұрын
probably not. amy seimetz does not have much experience as a director nor a writer and her few works arent very good
@Everythingz127
@Everythingz127 11 ай бұрын
​@@Novafanit doesn't mean she's stupid like Abel and SL to not ask for help to someone who's experienced
@Novafan
@Novafan 11 ай бұрын
@@Everythingz127 sam levinson is experienced, thats why abel hired him
@kb6211
@kb6211 11 ай бұрын
Leah leaving and joss not even reacting left me speechless
@BrainPilot
@BrainPilot 11 ай бұрын
Yeah, considering how close they were!
@najahreviews
@najahreviews 11 ай бұрын
She used her until she didn’t need her anymore
@natgonzza
@natgonzza 11 ай бұрын
Weirdest part is that she only owned a black purse and instead of taking her chlotes she took a picture? Hmmm
@angie-jo1mn
@angie-jo1mn 11 ай бұрын
Going by at what Abel hinted during a live I interview with Zane Lowe is that hes done with the show permanently so I'm thinking this is the reason for deading all the characters to their worst so that NO ONE can miss them cus this show is never coming back Abel sounded very sure of this.
@khaoticman4294
@khaoticman4294 11 ай бұрын
@@natgonzzashe had a suitcase
@blknmild
@blknmild 11 ай бұрын
This review is SPOT ON. This is the WORST show and finale I've seen in a while. It felt as cheap as a movie using the "It was all a dream" trope to tie up loose ends the writers were too stupid to flesh out.
@15Candles
@15Candles 11 ай бұрын
I just hope HBO would stop trusting Sam Levinson, he's not as good as what the HBO people think he is. They went from The Last of Us to Succession to Barry to this is just embarassing
@ericimi
@ericimi 11 ай бұрын
Sam Levinson did a great job with the show.
@15Candles
@15Candles 11 ай бұрын
@@ericimi He did a great job ruining himself that's for sure
@ParodyWhitney
@ParodyWhitney 11 ай бұрын
@@demi8890Sam, is that you? 😂 You don’t have to be a screen writer to have an opinion on the quality of a show. This show was arguably bad.
@lauramaguire3899
@lauramaguire3899 11 ай бұрын
I do agree This is us is a disaster . As for the other 2 I couldn’t get thru the first episodes.
@raquiolinha2507
@raquiolinha2507 11 ай бұрын
Yeah, it's a shame, since Euphoria is actually a terrific show
@bingoing
@bingoing 11 ай бұрын
The fact that they portrayed Leia as someone that could potentially bring the cult down and actually do some change but ultimately did nothing is bothering me too much. And then they did that sad scene where she left Jocelyn like we're supposed to feel sorry even though we never got to know the character and their relationship in depth. Also, where tf does she go? They just abandoned her character in the end but that's on brand for the show, I guess...
@raihanasal4968
@raihanasal4968 11 ай бұрын
@@demi8890i mean yeah but realistically no ending for any of the characters was good. The least we could’ve got was a reaction from joss abt leia leaving or what she wrote in the letter the whole thing was just disappointing
@bingoing
@bingoing 11 ай бұрын
@@demi8890 Of course she wasn't gonna be a star, she never wanted to either. All I'm saying is: if we were to feel happy for her escaping (debatable) or getting away from the cult, then they should've made us care about her by getting to know her character which we never got to.
@bingoing
@bingoing 11 ай бұрын
@@raihanasal4968 Exactly!!! Why would you pan to and zoom into the letter if we were never getting to know what she wrote anyways? Honestly this show just feels like they are constantly having ideas, executing them halfway and then literally just abandoning what they wanted to do in the first place. So frustrating.
@raihanasal4968
@raihanasal4968 11 ай бұрын
@@bingoing sam levinson is an absolute mess tbh, euphoria season 1 was so good but it seems like after that he’s just become lazy. Since he’s got the budget and success ( his shows got a lot of viewers and attention) he’s able to create whatever he wants really and he has the budget. He’s sort of abused his power and whatever he makes is overly explicit and unnecessary and the plot just gets worse and increasingly non existent each time. Euphoria season 2 he was pushing the limits with the nudity but atleast it had a few stand out good parts with an okayly satisfying ending, but the idol.. its just a bigger step down and an ultimate failure. Imagine teasing a show for an entire year just to create 5 episodes with a directionless plot and a forgettable ending. I cant even explain how bad it was and its definitely the worst tv show ive watched ever.
@st7rlette
@st7rlette 11 ай бұрын
i really wanted her to read the letter from leia like after the concert and see what her team thought about tedros appearance
@rosyface_
@rosyface_ 11 ай бұрын
It was like a whole different show in that last episode. Jocelyn was a completely different person, it was bizarre.
@BrainPilot
@BrainPilot 11 ай бұрын
Yeah, there was just so many blanks that weren't ever addressed
@itsnoneofyourbusiness0
@itsnoneofyourbusiness0 11 ай бұрын
Yeaaaas we need 6 episode not because it’s good because it doesn’t makes sense
@rosa_stars349
@rosa_stars349 11 ай бұрын
too many plot holes
@Foodie_Bae_Shae
@Foodie_Bae_Shae 11 ай бұрын
@@itsnoneofyourbusiness0ok! So I’m not the only one that’s lost?! Cause was this guy a cult leader?! Who exactly was using who in the end? Did they let Rob take the wrap for that crime? What was in Leila’s letter? Did Joss lie about her abuse? Too many questions.
@itsnoneofyourbusiness0
@itsnoneofyourbusiness0 11 ай бұрын
@shaenicole5719 yes yes I am lost too that's why they should've done 6 episodes but I honestly thought leila was pregnant or sick or got a good job opportunity but I have to knoooow lol
@beaqueenyt
@beaqueenyt 11 ай бұрын
This could have been good like Gone Girl if we got anything from Joss’s perspective at any point
@katieeckler7543
@katieeckler7543 11 ай бұрын
I honestly feel sorry for Lily Rose. She was really good in this and I’m sure she thought this was her moment- but the show just fell flat. I hope she isn’t beating herself up too much because overall, her performance was the best part of this show.
@BrainPilot
@BrainPilot 11 ай бұрын
Yeah across the entirety of the show she was definitely the best thing about it!
@Chickenpesto2468
@Chickenpesto2468 11 ай бұрын
Yes her acting is pretty decent
@pepelarrza3877
@pepelarrza3877 11 ай бұрын
Her acting sucks tho her character was bland and had the personality or a door but her acting didnt help either
@periodjuice9051
@periodjuice9051 11 ай бұрын
i feel bad for her when you know what the show originally was before sam. it seemed different and a lot of it was even filmed (but cut). i would hate to be an actor getting on a high promising show just for some director to get on and make it just porn with a choppy storyline
@sharongrenier1667
@sharongrenier1667 11 ай бұрын
She should be so embarrassed
@nellex147
@nellex147 11 ай бұрын
if they cut out the unnecessary sex scenes and overly long performances, replacing them with character development, the show could have made more sense.
@orderupgraphix6044
@orderupgraphix6044 11 ай бұрын
again the plot WAS her hole! So there is no sex tape without the sex scenes-right? -sicko beat off king will be the only ones watching this- like those creepy old men that used to go to Brittany concerts
@TheLmoney420
@TheLmoney420 11 ай бұрын
Genuinely one of the worst shows I’ve ever watched. She literally pays her manager to make him go away forever and 5 minutes later she introduces him to the crowd as the love of her life 🤦🏼‍♂️. The whole Rob storyline was unnecessary and ridiculous, we don’t know what happened to her bff lackey , she just leaves a note and bounces. I think the reaction of Hank Azaria’s character at the very end when Tedros came out on stage was how I felt about the series as a whole, like… what? I get the whole power dynamic switch that was supposed to be a huge reveal with the new brush and all that but none of it made any sense and just made the show even worse than I thought going into this episode. Absolutely horrible 🤦🏼‍♂️
@sharongrenier1667
@sharongrenier1667 11 ай бұрын
yes! How did this ever make it past HBOs normally high standards???!!!
@bellareid3488
@bellareid3488 11 ай бұрын
I really thought Joss invited Tedros back in so she could kill him! That would have been a better ending, lol
@itsnoneofyourbusiness0
@itsnoneofyourbusiness0 11 ай бұрын
Yes imagine her killing him and than performing with bloody clothes it would’ve been a really good ending lol
@bellareid3488
@bellareid3488 11 ай бұрын
@@itsnoneofyourbusiness0 ooh, I like it! lol
@itsnoneofyourbusiness0
@itsnoneofyourbusiness0 11 ай бұрын
@bellareid3488 lol but like anything would've been an better ending than this
@bellareid3488
@bellareid3488 11 ай бұрын
@@itsnoneofyourbusiness0 I know, right. I was thinking is that it?
@itsnoneofyourbusiness0
@itsnoneofyourbusiness0 11 ай бұрын
@bellareid3488 yeah but at least we don't have to seee anymore of this toxic relationship and I wish he was dead but if Jocelyn lied about her mom abusing her did she torture izaac for nothing (idk how to write his name)
@scorpiojoong
@scorpiojoong 11 ай бұрын
this show had absolutely nothing to say at all it's borderline hilarious
@monovatherealest
@monovatherealest 11 ай бұрын
If you look back at the trailers before the episodes started rolling out you can see that some scenes were cut, even the "Rolling Stone did we upset you?" scene was cut
@blackdateline1996
@blackdateline1996 11 ай бұрын
I kept waiting for that scene…obviously Rolling Stone upset THEM
@blackdateline1996
@blackdateline1996 11 ай бұрын
Plus Max probably didn’t wanna ruin their relationship with RS
@vixxp2856
@vixxp2856 11 ай бұрын
@@blackdateline1996 lol love that for RS, the magazine did big damage to the reputation of the show and rightfully so!
@killerpanda2086
@killerpanda2086 11 ай бұрын
so basically tedros : ep 1-4 *a chuuni abusive cult "leader"* ep 5 *feel bad for me now* jocelyn: ep1-4 *emotional wreck* ep5 *sike* idk why the rest of the big names were even there 🤣
@Liz_in_the_OC
@Liz_in_the_OC 11 ай бұрын
The word is psych not sike. Good grief
@bookclubchd9588
@bookclubchd9588 11 ай бұрын
​@@Liz_in_the_OCr/confidentlyincorrect
@Intheearly2000s
@Intheearly2000s 11 ай бұрын
​@@bookclubchd9588😭💀
@shirendjorgee9320
@shirendjorgee9320 11 ай бұрын
LMAO HE IS SUCH A CHUUNI THO-
@annadart9339
@annadart9339 11 ай бұрын
You should make a video about all the plot holes and confusing things that just didn’t make sense in this show! Like how did Tedros not end up going to prison for years? Why did Joss even want him back? Why was Zander down to go on tour with Joss after she straight up tortured him? Why did Nikki want to team up with Tedros after he verbally berated her in front of everyone? So many things just did not end up, felt like the story was going in a million different directions for no reason
@tmarie69
@tmarie69 11 ай бұрын
No fr because I genuinely don’t understand a lot of the plot holes.
@artiezonk
@artiezonk 11 ай бұрын
How is the new hairbrush supposed to mean that she lied about the ab*se when Xander and supposedly others saw her mom abuse her?
@AmandaVieiraMamaesouCult
@AmandaVieiraMamaesouCult 11 ай бұрын
@@artiezonk And Tedros saw the hairbrush a million times before
@outlin3r
@outlin3r 11 ай бұрын
​​@@artiezonkt wasn't that she lied about abuse. It was that abuse was her motivation and it was a proverbial passing of the baton to give Tedros a new brush because now he would be the one to apply the punishment to her. Willingly.
@thisisshite
@thisisshite 11 ай бұрын
The point of her buying the brush FOR him is that SHE now has the control over him. Look at him scoffing at first when she confirms it's new, then slowly realising that he's now under her. And the stage scene jut confirms it, i mean you couldn't make it more obvious with her using his SM line 'now go stand over there' etc. I kinda liked the concept and the idea but Tedros being a lost puppy at the end kinda left a sour taste in my mouth
@ParodyWhitney
@ParodyWhitney 11 ай бұрын
Did anyone else catch how Finklestein or whatever his name was, after Joss finishes her performance, refers to his “parental feelings/vibe” for Joss right after he announces he should have changed his shorts. Wtf?
@percyjackson1051
@percyjackson1051 11 ай бұрын
Yes! There’s even a shot where they zoom out and she’s in between his legs & when she’s looking up at him, looks sus as hell. Just disgusting.
@Ellie-nv5vf
@Ellie-nv5vf 11 ай бұрын
caught it right away! Icky forealllll
@teammo959
@teammo959 11 ай бұрын
Welcome to Hollywood
@MoonShadow333
@MoonShadow333 11 ай бұрын
Joss taking Tedros back so publicly does not make sense. He is radioactive now! Does she want to succeed or she killed her career on purpose? This is not an ambiguous kind of situation. It is just terrible writing!!!!
@BrucePain-_-
@BrucePain-_- 11 ай бұрын
shes a mess also she wanted to show Tedros and all her managers that she is the one in charge
@angie-jo1mn
@angie-jo1mn 11 ай бұрын
Considering that she called him "a sweaty, drunken, fucking pathetic mess" 😂oh she was done DONE with Tredros😂
@angxlchlo
@angxlchlo 11 ай бұрын
She literally tells Chaim she never wants to see Tedros again, then turns around and invites Tedros back like?? I am so confused here
@MoonShadow333
@MoonShadow333 11 ай бұрын
@@angxlchlo I think it was an awkward last attempt to portray their relationship as “romantic”
@quietnerdything
@quietnerdything 11 ай бұрын
Yeah, I can’t imagine any benefit for her to publicly declare her love for someone who was *just* exposed to the media as a violent cult-leading pimp.
@ThinkFitMind
@ThinkFitMind 11 ай бұрын
Sam just coupdnt help to find a way to put a nude minor in the show right ?? Ugh he has an obsession with showing schoolgirls nude in his work.
@___hannah.
@___hannah. 11 ай бұрын
Exactly!!! He obviously has a fetish. He's so predictable
@angelavanessa1714
@angelavanessa1714 11 ай бұрын
Fr it’s disgusting
@svinitials
@svinitials 11 ай бұрын
My friend and I tried watching this and we couldn't believe how young they coded the girl from the cult. She's supposed to be 17 but they had her literally skip everywhere, act extremely naive (the "woah, does she live in a hotel??? I never saw a house with a pool!!!!" line), and she was hyperactive and playing dress up like a kid. The hair/makeup/styling too. Then they immediately have her get naked and watch the main couple while they were in bed? Just disgusting. Wtf.
@JukeboxWithJay
@JukeboxWithJay 11 ай бұрын
She’s like 27 but it was weird that they added that whole 17 thing but didn’t go anywhere with it
@ThinkFitMind
@ThinkFitMind 11 ай бұрын
@@JukeboxWithJay yeah thats what i mean, even in euphoria they are all 15 - 17 and in actual school yet they are all naked and seducing older men ! .. why not make them in college like ...
@avii377
@avii377 11 ай бұрын
Whose side was Xander and Nikki on all along? What did they do to Tedros after he was taken away? Why did Destiny become so passive and not say anything when they were all sitting together? Wasnt she there to kill Tedros in the first place? Why were they really there to meet her? Why did the Jew guy switch so suddenly and support that nonsense? and why not save some of that 'gang-rapey' shit for the actual show? Man this show is utter shame and a waste of all resources.
@bees.857
@bees.857 11 ай бұрын
What was the point of bringing Rob in and ruining his career? He didn't do anything to her, she broke up with him so like uhhhh why
@sug725
@sug725 11 ай бұрын
@@bees.857it was Tedros idea. He manipulated Xander so he could f*ck up Rob (who was f*cking his girl), but only could do it because Xander wanted to mess with Joss (by hurting her ex and close friend)
@pheo1299
@pheo1299 11 ай бұрын
@@bees.857exactly, i think they just added rob to let us see that xander got manipulated. idk its weird because a24 made this and a24 never disappoints!! (i mean they made euphoria, everything everwhere all at once, the whale, pearl, midsommar and more)
@Whytho3678
@Whytho3678 11 ай бұрын
Destiny was sent to kill tedros? Can you explain that a bit more
@BrucePain-_-
@BrucePain-_- 11 ай бұрын
@@bees.857 that part was there to show that everybody was playing their cards, he was just a tool for Jocelyn as he was for Tedros.
@acecola8295
@acecola8295 11 ай бұрын
The worst part about The Idol for me is that it's actually a really good story on paper. A child star on her own for the first time after her abusive mother dies finds herself feeling empty and lost spiritually/musically until she gets with another abuser and together starts making the best music of her career. However the abuser alienates her from her friends and even sabotages her ex which causes Joss to break up with him. Joss however now feels that emptiness more than ever since she has no one to trust and believes the abuser is the only reason her music was any good, so she takes him back and wants him to keep abusing her. Part of this is me interpreting what the brush at the end implies, for me I felt the interpretation of it being a new brush she bought for Tedros to use felt better for the story. To me that's a pretty good story about how people can be put into these cycles of abuse because of the emptiness you feel after it's over and the self worth the abuser gives you. It's a universal theme told from a not so universal character. To me that works so well. Abuse can happen to anybody and anyone can fall into the cycle of craving that abuse when they don't quite make the adjustment to "normalcy." The Idol could've tackled that with the full weight and subtlety needed to make it work. The problem is that the focus was more put onto graphic scenes and propping up every character that wasn't Joss. This meant less time to develop Joss and so every development felt rushed and this genuine great plot got diluted to a "watch it for the plot" joke.
@Jenniferwelsey07
@Jenniferwelsey07 11 ай бұрын
Joss was never abused she made up everything
@zairacampos3112
@zairacampos3112 11 ай бұрын
​​@@Jenniferwelsey07we know, she's writing another story that makes more sense with what they showed
@lauraanderson8785
@lauraanderson8785 2 ай бұрын
That would've been soooo much better than the trash we actually got 😩
@whitepaint7870
@whitepaint7870 11 ай бұрын
The show over all had a weird pacing issue. Apparently there was going to be a total of SIX episodes but during editing the probaly realised that only had enough to use for 5. Which is probably why the cast/ crew wanted a another season.
@MuseandherFeelings
@MuseandherFeelings 11 ай бұрын
i’m just glad there wasn’t any explicit scenes this episode
@BrainPilot
@BrainPilot 11 ай бұрын
Yeah, it actually made a refreshing change lol
@LyddieR
@LyddieR 11 ай бұрын
Exception for her " performance it was dare I say, too sexy for the lyrics and just not necessary as most of her ass being shown was throughout the series.
@helloworld-sl2lw
@helloworld-sl2lw 11 ай бұрын
There definitely was, during the showcase, they just had their clothes on 😂
@globalmovement5141
@globalmovement5141 11 ай бұрын
I kept hitting the 10 second forward button on my remote…Tedros was like an annoying flea the whole episode. I was yelling at the TV as to why he kept staying around. The concert filming venue being at the After Hours till Dawn was such a distraction for me.
@shinefairy4516
@shinefairy4516 11 ай бұрын
So joclyn needed tedrose so she can be abused for inspiration.
@eldritchbidoof
@eldritchbidoof 11 ай бұрын
that's quite literally the dumbest shit I've ever heard lmfao
@josefaharrison
@josefaharrison 11 ай бұрын
Exactly, thats the ending in summary
@anjiwhatever5644
@anjiwhatever5644 11 ай бұрын
The choppy nature and the "brushing" over things 👀 I live for details like this.
@BrainPilot
@BrainPilot 11 ай бұрын
Glad somebody spotted it haha
@joelambert7277
@joelambert7277 11 ай бұрын
Did not like this finale, the last 10-15 minutes cemented it for me as now we are led to believe that Jocelyn was the manipulator and Tedros is the victim??!? How were we suppose to take this show seriously and what was the point of it
@nehalilisays
@nehalilisays 11 ай бұрын
They could be both manipulative in their own ways and Jocelyn could be seen as an enabler of his abuse towards her friends & staff members (se*ual harassment, drug abuse, torture). But did anybody do him wrong?
@joelambert7277
@joelambert7277 11 ай бұрын
@@nehalilisays Interesting point.
@QuoteBlink
@QuoteBlink 11 ай бұрын
The Weeknd really carried this show... To the grave.
@firstlast9846
@firstlast9846 11 ай бұрын
I’ve seen this comment a dozen times.. but he did in a way carry it - his music was one of the few reasons worth tuning in the next week
@Everythingz127
@Everythingz127 11 ай бұрын
He also buried it don't forget
@jennycoyle8204
@jennycoyle8204 11 ай бұрын
😂😂😂
@DonGiovanni88
@DonGiovanni88 11 ай бұрын
😂😂😂😂
@wr5023
@wr5023 11 ай бұрын
Lmao
@tokyo6017
@tokyo6017 11 ай бұрын
Maybe I’m dumb asf but since Jocelyn was lying about her abuse, why did xander say he remembered it???
@jl4260
@jl4260 11 ай бұрын
You're not dumb asf. The show is. That and many other contradictions are why the finale literally makes no sense lol.
@tmarie69
@tmarie69 11 ай бұрын
Thank you!!! It seemed like everyone understood it happened, so how was that suddenly a lie??
@c-chubi
@c-chubi 11 ай бұрын
maybe just the brush thing wasn’t real? idk man this show is weird af
@tokyo6017
@tokyo6017 11 ай бұрын
@@c-chubi I’m assuming she lied about the brush thing
@Dani-lc9hq
@Dani-lc9hq 11 ай бұрын
Exactly! None of this story adds up.
@jalightbourne
@jalightbourne 11 ай бұрын
There were so many plot setups that amounted to nothing. And so many unresolved storylines.
@maratesfaye
@maratesfaye 11 ай бұрын
right? one easy example is leia leaving tbh. no clue what exactly is in the letter, what LRD’s reaction is, nothing 💀
@s.tiaira9081
@s.tiaira9081 11 ай бұрын
That’s a Sam standard.
@AmandaVieiraMamaesouCult
@AmandaVieiraMamaesouCult 11 ай бұрын
You can definitely feel there were 2 different stories packed into one. It was choppy, the pace was inconsistent, and although the premise is interesting and there are some fun parts, the watching experience was too frustrating for me to continue to see it.
@s.tiaira9081
@s.tiaira9081 11 ай бұрын
Exactly it had so much potential just to leave us disappointed.
@nokayart612
@nokayart612 11 ай бұрын
Man, this last episode left many questions. The power shift between tedros and Joss seemed out of the blue. I wish the show was better enough to continue.
@BrainPilot
@BrainPilot 11 ай бұрын
Yeah, there were always so many gaps between the episodes which just were so confusing and it happened again in this episode
@vvaveave
@vvaveave 11 ай бұрын
ive never in my life has been as surprised at an episode beginning as this sudden shift between joss and tedros like i dont think the abused person morphing into an abuser is an illegitimate premise for a show, but theres just soooo little setup that it feels like bottom of the barrell wattpad miley cyrus darkfic or smth
@Mysteriuminiquitatis1998
@Mysteriuminiquitatis1998 11 ай бұрын
The show needs a reboot but with the original writers
@Bluebooty
@Bluebooty 11 ай бұрын
@@vvaveavemiley cyrus wattpad darkfic is such a great encapsulation for this show
@teammo959
@teammo959 11 ай бұрын
@@vvaveave Pretty common behaviour change as seen with girls with BPD
@TheLmoney420
@TheLmoney420 11 ай бұрын
To say this show was bad is too generous, it was fantastically awful. No character is likable, nothing made sense and idk wtf I just watched? Like seriously, WTF was that?
@___hannah.
@___hannah. 11 ай бұрын
I don't have the words to describe how bad this show is. None of my friends have watched it and I can't communicate to them the trauma I just experienced for this horrific TV show. How on earth did it get made
@TheLmoney420
@TheLmoney420 11 ай бұрын
@@___hannah. facts! I have to go to KZbin to rant because apparently I was the only one foolish enough to watch this mess 🤦🏼‍♂️
@roses.9181
@roses.9181 11 ай бұрын
I knew at the end of the last episode they were going to make Jocelyn the bad guy. I literally rolled my eyes so hard 100 times during the episode I thought my eyes were going to roll into the back of my head. Like 40 minutes for the opening scene!? Also, it was so tacky to use Abel's After Hours tour at the SoFi stadium to show her during her tour. Just so inauthentic and not unique. Big yuck! I was relieved that Jocelyn wasn't naked this episode, but this was traded off for a terrible "plot twist" if you can even call it that. I guarantee they cut so much from episode 5 and 6, that they had to make it one episode. Probably because they knew people would really not like those parts. What a huge disappointment. And then the hair brush scene where she was brushing her hair aggressively,y like really Sam, have you no new ideas? A woman angrily and obsessively getting ready? To Cassie from Euphoria. Ugh!
@trinaq
@trinaq 11 ай бұрын
Between this show and Velma, 2023 has been the year for HBO flops. I hope that they create another decent project soon.
@whitepaint7870
@whitepaint7870 11 ай бұрын
I thought succession was really great and TLOU, plus Velma wasn’t made by hbo, But this show was really disappointing. But at least people are talking about it instead of that woody Harrelson show.
@15Candles
@15Candles 11 ай бұрын
More like hoping they don't trust Levinson again
@redsands1001
@redsands1001 11 ай бұрын
Succession, white lotus, perry Mason had pretty well received seasons. Righteous gemstones good so far. But yes the 2 new buzzy shows flopped
@Holmelander
@Holmelander 11 ай бұрын
Barry was also unreal - when they hit it hits but the idol was disappointing
@redsands1001
@redsands1001 11 ай бұрын
@Holmelander-zk8do ah crud forgot about Barry. Hadn't watched it
@MJ-py7dm
@MJ-py7dm 11 ай бұрын
Despite being an underwhelming finale, I somehow found a sense of understanding of where this show wanted to take me. When Jocelynn broke down Tedros by humiliating him, I felt that. My mother was verbally abusive and my father violent and (oversharing sorry) when I met people I loved, there was never a time, I didn't want to hurt them as much as possible just to see if they'll stick around, it's something I struggle with today. Hurting someone just to see if they'll leave me or not want me and Tedros not taking the money showed her he wasn't there for the money and that's why she brought him back. She put him through the pain he put her through (even though she allowed him to). It's F'd up but am ashamed that part of their dynamic got to me. The rest can go to hell, it was very useless.
@Sydwiz9999
@Sydwiz9999 11 ай бұрын
oh come on, there was nothing deep or intentional about this show
@MJ-py7dm
@MJ-py7dm 11 ай бұрын
@@Sydwiz9999 I didn't ask you to agree with me, you can "oh come on" as much as you want but my two cents will stay right there.
@jl4260
@jl4260 11 ай бұрын
I cannot even wrap my head around how nonsensical and tone deaf the finale was. There were already multiple puzzle pieces missing throughout the entire series and the finale didn't fill anything in, it only created more plot holes. Not to mention, this entire series feels so out of place post MeToo. I'm not one for woke washing every single thing on tv, but there's just so much about this series that is disgustingly offensive to any woman who has been through legitimate abuse.
@solc3851
@solc3851 11 ай бұрын
Totally agree with everything you said! The scene where everyone showed off their talents to Joss' team was way too long, when it could have been a 5 minute scene where they showed how impressed they were and that would have been better, in my opinion. And the show would have had more time to develop other things, like the part about Leia LEAVING Joss !!!!!! I needed a scene with the two of them talking, Leia saying that she can't take it anymore and seeing Joss' reaction, I don't know. I was also expecting MORE from Tedros; to me, his personality changed overnight. I feel like Joss sleeping with her ex affected him like he was in love with her or something, and he clearly wasn't. I get that it's about his ego, but still. I don't know, to me, his downfall was underwhelming, I feel like he didn't suffer that much to be acting down bad like that lmao (before Joss' team ruining his reputation). And about the ending, I think they wanted to have this big plot twist but, to me at least, didn't feel like it. And then the credits rolled after a weird shot lol. I don't know, I kind of liked the show overall, I loved the cinematography and Lily's performance, but I didn't like the finale at all. I guess it's an open finale to then add a second season, but no one knows if that will happen or not.
@BrainPilot
@BrainPilot 11 ай бұрын
Glad you agree!
@mariannayork5142
@mariannayork5142 11 ай бұрын
Just like Euphoria’s last episode, he gave us a 15 minute music scene without even asking
@sk3lut
@sk3lut 11 ай бұрын
the whole episode build up had you thinking that tedros would end up dying or in jail but the moment he ripped up the check and said something about “her being worth so much more” i just knew they were gonna pull some bs
@halomerric8611
@halomerric8611 11 ай бұрын
My theory it was such crap...it was more provocative but it was cut out. So lots of pointless scenes as filler. This feels the show equivalent of how successful the Titan submersible was.
@Monochrome_11
@Monochrome_11 11 ай бұрын
"The Idol" is going hard for that Razzie , it seems
@theandroids
@theandroids 11 ай бұрын
I actually thought that Jenny was going to try and kill Joss at the concert. Definitely a lot was cut out. Such a waste of a good cast, the writers failed BIG TIME.
@AtlantisBrooke
@AtlantisBrooke 11 ай бұрын
They could have done so much with the dyanne and joss dynamic but threw it all out
@BrainPilot
@BrainPilot 11 ай бұрын
Totally! Even all of Joss's issues that she had going on in her personal life
@carsenreid1710
@carsenreid1710 11 ай бұрын
YES! You said it all so articulately, giving us something to cling to and feel heard as we are left unwell by this mess🙃 I could write an essay-but one note I’d love insight about…the BRUSH. He noticed it was new, commented she told him it was the old one. Part of me wondered if he just then realized it was new, meaning she previously made the abuse up. Made my skin crawl how they revealed her twist, not in the way they wanted to achieve. All things aside…they humiliate her character even more having Tedros come out on stage, showcasing their whole mental illness is sexy bs. Anddd no clip of the performance, just her officially losing herself to a known abuser in front of thousands that read about him, WHY.
@jujuinator
@jujuinator 11 ай бұрын
Chaim and Destiny were the best duo in the show, also would’ve liked to see Izaak and Leia more
@orderupgraphix6044
@orderupgraphix6044 11 ай бұрын
Hank Azaria and Da'Vine definitely carried the show
@15Candles
@15Candles 11 ай бұрын
This series exposes who Sam Levinson actually is than the themes that it tries to tackle. Everyone who worked on this series should be ashamed of themselves
@whitepaint7870
@whitepaint7870 11 ай бұрын
Was it explained why she wanted tedros back, last wasn’t there last interaction her kicking him out. Or they just wanted to weekend ti have a role in season 2.
@mehreebb
@mehreebb 11 ай бұрын
There isn’t a season 2, atleast that’s what I’ve heard online. Anyway you’re right, Jocelyn said to Chaim to get rid of Tedros forever and that was their last interaction before she invited him to her show.
@whitepaint7870
@whitepaint7870 11 ай бұрын
@@mehreebb i not saying there would be, the viewship is probably just to low, but it was something that I’ve seen mentioned. Which is good because the show doesn’t deserve it.
@diegognzalz
@diegognzalz 11 ай бұрын
did anyone else catch that moment where jocelyn was sitting outside praying and looking through the window and then all of a sudden she's back inside and doing that random dramatic dancing and lyp syncing thing?? the editing was so rushed that characters fully started teleporting LMFAO
@Wellnessdrinkingbuddy
@Wellnessdrinkingbuddy 11 ай бұрын
Worst show I have ever seen in my life. I’m really hoping that was a series finale and not a season finale… We don’t need any more of that horrendous storytelling
@___hannah.
@___hannah. 11 ай бұрын
The series finale was the worst one I have ever watched, it was even worse than I thought it would be.
@superkay4421
@superkay4421 11 ай бұрын
Something I want to know is who was Xander truly working for? If Joss’ brush was new then was her mom truly abusing her? Was Xander actually lying? Did Joss asking Xander to really standby and get hurt for the fame?
@r.s6187
@r.s6187 11 ай бұрын
This show has a lot of issues, one of the biggest ones being pacing and what they prioritized showing. If you're going to have a five (even six like they originally planned) episode show, you don't have time for scenes that aren't purposeful. Multiple sex scene? Aesthetic shots of characters doing random things? All the songs? You don't have time for that unless you're willing to sacrifice the actual plot. That's why we had a six month time jump in the same episode we watched three supporting characters each sing their own song.
@elagray
@elagray 11 ай бұрын
love your vids so much, do you do video essays for Movies? I'm curious to see a character/plot deep-dive on Across the Spider Verse!
@gabs3096
@gabs3096 11 ай бұрын
I need Amy’s version really bad
@user-ny6xq7te2g
@user-ny6xq7te2g 11 ай бұрын
The show its not that bad yall are being too harsh, write your own show if its so easy. It aint easy to create but its easy to criticise.
@eewahnah
@eewahnah 11 ай бұрын
I saw Weeknd announcing there might be a part 2 to the finale so Idk if to actually expect it or already see it as finalized
@beabody8578
@beabody8578 11 ай бұрын
5 years from now the idol will be considered a classic like that spring breakers movie. mark my words
@BrainPilot
@BrainPilot 11 ай бұрын
Do you think?
@serenae6007
@serenae6007 11 ай бұрын
I hadn't watched an episode before this one. Read the plot of the others and watched these videos. But, even i had whiplash when she first told him to get out. I was like good, get rid of this wet piece of trash. But then she brings him back? What? Seemed like there was going to be some conflict but nah. I don't think she is a villain though. This ep shows she had the power to get rid of him whenever. That's what the hairbrush proves and what he seemed to forget. He came with bad intentions and I think that's the point of the Red Ridding Hood story. Pisses me off she let him back in though, statement or not. Though that theme does slap. Really elevated the ending for me it would have had a much different energy without it.
@Rsiaud
@Rsiaud 11 ай бұрын
What was the background song Mike Dean was playing on piano at the meeting?
@meggiegolden4310
@meggiegolden4310 11 ай бұрын
I sat there stunned at the ending. The one thing I did like about the show was the soundtrack. I thought that was amazing! But there was a lot of things left unsolved for example what happened with Joss's previous boyfriend's allegations of rape? What I took from the ending is not that Joss became a villain but that she found herself and was able to stand up for herself being somebody that was abused throughout her life. In the same right I didn't understand because if she found herself and she was able to stand up for herself and her and Tedros switched places in the power dynamics. But if she really found herself she wouldn't have gone back to Tedros. They spent so much time developing their characters for Tedros to be an evil, manipulative, hot head person and Jocelyn to be the submissive, broken person. Then all of a sudden they switched no problem it's hard to comprehend that without seeing some back story struggle of how they got there. I was also a little confused by Jocelyn all of a sudden becoming angry with Tedros just because she found out that he coned her into coming to the club through her friend? She wasn't angry with any of the other stuff Tedros did but that's what set her off? When I was watching this show I thought I had missed something. When she decided to sleep with her ex-boyfriend I expected more from Tedros. The show spent so much time developing his character one way and then when she betrayed him he just let her get away with it which was not his character he didn't let any of the people he delt with get away with the slightest thing. Then Jocelyn's friend that decided to leave we never even found out what she wrote in that note. I completely didn't understand the brush scene at the end. Even though these characters are super talented we watched all these characters perform throughout the whole show. I don't know why we needed a full concert scene of every single character at the end? One of the main things I was confused with at the end and I don't think I heard anybody mention this was she decided to get back with Tedros and bring him on stage in front of all her fans to declare their love but they spent so much time explaining how they ruin this man publicly outing him for being a horrible human being. In a journalistic piece that was supposed to be about Jocelyn. So all her fans read that. So if all her fans read that nobody from her fan group was upset that she was taking back her abuser? I would think that would make her lose alot of fans. Knowing all this once I heard that there was possibly a missing episode it made a lot of sense because I did feel like lost and that stuff was missing at that end episode. I agree that this show had so much potential and just didn't take it there. Because I felt like this show had so much potential and I was so into the show it just made it a bigger let down. 😢😢😢😢
@patricia2007
@patricia2007 11 ай бұрын
Your channel is doing good! Congrats!🎉
@amandameredith
@amandameredith 11 ай бұрын
I am so confused about this finale. It was definitely the worst. So many unanswered questions. The Weekend acting drunk was so hard to watch but also hilarious because it was so bad lol. Well at least this train wreck is over.
@kittyvicious6960
@kittyvicious6960 11 ай бұрын
I just thought that joss was as crazy and manipulative as Tedros, he just caught her at the right time bc she was weak due to her mother’s death. Now looking back on it there’s lots of hints that she’s the villain. Even in the beginning when she is instructed to feel on command was sort of a clue that she’s manipulative Still underwhelming but that’s what I got from it
@MJ1331EL
@MJ1331EL 11 ай бұрын
One thing for sure, is if it wasn't for The Idol, I wouldn't have discovered you! Looking forward to more content!
@BrainPilot
@BrainPilot 11 ай бұрын
Haha, thanks a lot! Hope you enjoy the future vids
@brendahuie7684
@brendahuie7684 11 ай бұрын
I'm so disappointed in the finale! You are so right. It made no sense that it did seem like something was missing, and it was just confusing and no real ending. Thank you for the video. I was feeling like am I losing my mind. This makes no freaking sense!!
@BrainPilot
@BrainPilot 11 ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed the video! It's a shame because the show definitely had potential!
@brendahuie7684
@brendahuie7684 11 ай бұрын
@BrainPilot it had so much potential. I thought it was going to be a great series, but it just went downhill and made no sense.
@reqiuemformydreams
@reqiuemformydreams 11 ай бұрын
The finale definitely seems like it was meant to be something more but then the weekend and Sam Levinson shat all over it. I also totally agree that it seems like the audience was missing episodes worth of information.
@ellyvanrouyen
@ellyvanrouyen 11 ай бұрын
I think any alternative written ending would be better even if say the Dianne and Tetros whatever his name working together is found out by joslene in the final and it sorta enrages her whilst she prepping performing showcasing in bits other performers and then the other plot of the assistant who left is doing a podcast of tweeting a audio and evidence of the cults torture and focusing on tetros since she doesn’t like him it goes everywhere just before her performance and tedros is toxic and angry threatening the other performers thinking they exposed it scene of him attacking Troyes character or sum whilst that’s happening Jocelyn does her big performance only too go too far and push herself too far injuring herself since not in good headspace or until some blood her team are on standby panicked as she goes too far again insisting to keep going and it shows she’s become self destructive and also so insecure she wants to prove her self but fails this will be a intense scene climax in the end tedros goes down, side characters are useful have stuff happen to them and Jocelyn ends up failing since she was never suited for the industry also maybe Jennie could have had a performance as one of the prior acts or covers her part at sun point
@AM257.
@AM257. 11 ай бұрын
I can't comprehend the fact that HBO agreed to actually aired it. It got worse with each episode but the finale really made me feel so mad, now I can't even listen to the weeknd without getting reminder of his acting
@Berley_1234
@Berley_1234 11 ай бұрын
i missed the part where she started to not like him... no character development
@BrainPilot
@BrainPilot 11 ай бұрын
Yeah it was just so abrupt!
@jennycoyle8204
@jennycoyle8204 11 ай бұрын
So much potential lost 🤦‍♀️
@BrainPilot
@BrainPilot 11 ай бұрын
Yeah it's a shame!
@JoshuaBarrio
@JoshuaBarrio 11 ай бұрын
Wonder if they would release the Amy Seimetz cut. Reportedly she completed she shot 80% of the original 6 episode run. Abel didn't like the direction and enlisted Levinson to re-shoot / re-edit / re-write the season.
@jaeminssocks
@jaeminssocks 11 ай бұрын
this show is pointless! No substance, no story, no plot, etc! it’s just a boring, lifeless, uninteresting show with no real meaning and i hate it all!
@TalkSickMass
@TalkSickMass 11 ай бұрын
I honestly would want an episode of Tedros's life crumbling as well as revelations happening on-screen rather than casually mentioned by Jocelyn's managers.
@JessicaC.
@JessicaC. 11 ай бұрын
Also the end of the show at the sofi stadium is the actual weekends tour stage. Because HBO just released the weekends concert a few weekends ago. It's the same exact stage instead of used at the end of the idol.
@reaganfields
@reaganfields 11 ай бұрын
i watched the finale literally screaming at my tv bc the whole thing made LITERALLY NO SENSE 😭
@QuoteBlink
@QuoteBlink 11 ай бұрын
Came For Lily, But Came Back For Jennie
@yrbigfan
@yrbigfan 11 ай бұрын
You are literally a blink so you ofc cane for jennie
@miro4325
@miro4325 11 ай бұрын
tedros had 0 redeeming qualities, were we supposed to feel bad for him?!?!
@BrainPilot
@BrainPilot 11 ай бұрын
Yeah it was a weird way for it to conclude wasn’t it!
@blitzmut
@blitzmut 11 ай бұрын
Not sure when filming wrapped - but I wonder if the WGA strike had something to do with the editing of the final episode/cutting episode 6
@BrainPilot
@BrainPilot 11 ай бұрын
Thtat's true - i'm not sure though. I feel the timelines might not have matched up
@outlin3r
@outlin3r 11 ай бұрын
She changed directions on him in the previous episode when she broke from his spell, realizing he planned it all from the start when the young singer revealed his intentions when she was on Molly.
@alienzk
@alienzk 11 ай бұрын
No it wasn’t up till last week that it was 6 episodes. It’s been 5 for a while. That narrative randomly just started getting pushed because of the recent article published and people believed it because the original show was 6 episodes before Sam. At the festival premiere, it was 5 episodes, so it didn’t just happen, most of us just didn’t know and it helped our narrative of “oh the show sucks so it got cut short”.
@caseyhart4999
@caseyhart4999 11 ай бұрын
Yea people including myself assumed it was 6 episodes because that’s how many shows usually do for a mini series. People are hating on this show just to hate on it lol. It’s not as bad as many make it out to be. Worst season finale of all time? Lol that’s a bit dramatic there are so many shows that are downright offensive in how bad they are like GoT.
@user-yj9ew1kk8i
@user-yj9ew1kk8i 11 ай бұрын
​@@caseyhart4999nah it is as bad as people say absolutely nothing about this finale makes sense, if someone said chatgpt wrote it I would actually fully believe it it's not on GoT level, but it is terrible
@caseyhart4999
@caseyhart4999 11 ай бұрын
@@user-yj9ew1kk8i you’re absolutely free to feel that way all power to you. I do wonder why you even finished the show seein as it seems most people hated this show from day 1 but I kind of enjoyed the season personally. The only point I really was trying to make is it’s not literally the worst season finale of all time as this video would suggest lol
@alienzk
@alienzk 11 ай бұрын
I think GoT finale will always take the hatred cake and eat it up because despite the show going downhill for a while, none of us expected that kinda heartbreak. This show isn’t good so a bad finale is more so consistent than a shocker. The show is terrible but it’s def been a subject of review hatred because of the all the new trending KZbin review channels, where was this energy when Sam was doing euphoria? That was all Maddie/ Cassie/ Zendaya love.
@caseyhart4999
@caseyhart4999 11 ай бұрын
@@alienzk actually I think euphoria season 2 is where everyone turned on Sam Levinson for whatever reason. Suddenly people were complaining about the nudity when there was even less than season 1 lol. But I’m pretty sure they wanted more of Kat and Jules and got upset when it focused on other characters instead. Again I really enjoyed euphoria season 2 even though I’ve seen many people trash it. The idol is a show I would have never even checked out if not for Sam Levinson being attached if I’m totally honest so I think it’s kinda funny people keep saying this show had sooooooo much potential while simultaneously calling it the worst thing ever I’m just like what?
@AR-zz8de
@AR-zz8de 11 ай бұрын
so many questions in the end. what happened to leia? what is written in that letter she left for jocelyn? how come everyone went from being complete cyborgs for tedros to just not even talking to him? wasn't he portrayed to be this master manipulator that would go to any extent to make people do what he says? he barely put any fight since Rob appeared, and they made us think tedros was being worked up to the point where he would try doing something like he did to his ex wife. but no, he just went from this untouchable tyrant god to this good for nothing junkie. AND THEN they bring him back like nothing happened. Was the filled out show a success? We don't know. what leverage does dyanne have now? is she just there because she's jennie kim? like, we don't know how deep her relationship with tedros is, we don't know if she feels bad or good for stealing jocelyns song with the label, we do know that she just gets sent off but her face is literally expresionless, we dont know if shes sad, angry, planning revenge, nothing. What happened to Rob after the allegations? we don't know. what happens when jocelyn finds out xander was the one who took the photo of rob now that he's on the team? literally so many loose ends. TEDROS COMING BACK LIKE THIS DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE AT ALL. honestly, the show didn't bore me at all, and i'd be a hypocrite if i just jumped on the wagon, but man come on there's still so much unanswered stuff for a season finale.
@alesbianhotmess
@alesbianhotmess 11 ай бұрын
The way I screamed when they got back together in the end😂
@BrainPilot
@BrainPilot 11 ай бұрын
Loool
@TheJJDaily
@TheJJDaily 10 ай бұрын
If you didn't pick up on one of the final scenes in the last episode with the famous hair brush, none of the power play by Joss in the first half of the episode makes sense. Its is supposed to be the 'light bulb moment' for the audience when she looks over her shoulder and gives that devilish grin like "It was me". And this was ironic because in the scene where the artists are doing their show case for the producers, her tour manager refers to Tedros as "Kaiser Soze". Remember that Kaiser Soze was the weak and handicapped character who turned out to be in fact not handicapped, but a villian with a different voice and personality altogether in Usual suspects. That was foreshadowing because there was a kaiser soze in the room but it wasn't Tedros, it was Jocelyn. Jocelyn is Kaiser Soze. Where this show went wrong (among many other things), is it seems like a large part of the show was written before they decided to take it in this direction? Probably because if they reverse-engineered it, it would have been less than a shock...but similar to Dan being Gossip girl in Gossip Girl 2009, if you look for evidence of this in previous episodes it just doesn't make sense.
@dashahey5668
@dashahey5668 11 ай бұрын
Obviously, the main manipulator here is Jocelyn. It seems that it was to that last moment that the stage was and she really, like an idol for everyone, has come all this way. We are repeatedly made to understand that she did not become a manipulator and an absolute narcissistic egocentric - we are told a little about the history of Xander (she knew for sure that he did not sing on purpose and about an agreement with his mother) and how she sees Leia - only as a tool for fulfilling some duties and that's it. It seems that at the beginning of the series she simply lacked inspiration, which she most likely draws from bright, but extremely unhealthy relationships (as I understand it, she developed such a pattern precisely on the basis of relations with her mother, that is, a different model of relations is absolutely unusual for her and unfamiliar, and therefore does not cause any emotions) - that is why she returns him at the end, and it can be seen in his eyes when he begins to understand that she is absolutely not a lamb and a certain fear is even read in his eyes - with such eyes we look at a person about whom we learn something that we don’t knew before and this is something impartial. I'm sure that her phrase "said" about the hairbrush and the smile at the end means that there was no episode with the hairbrush. We don’t know what exactly happened, but apparently the relationship with the mother was more complicated than the understandable “abuser and victim” scheme. In general, yes, these are just speculations and opinions, in order for everything to become completely obvious, more episodes are needed. But we are content with what we have. According to the result of the entire series: Lily Rose played perfectly, as for me, Weekend opened in the last episodes, conveys the emotions of the character very well. According to my impressions, the series really turned out to be about the industry, about a woman and her difficult relationships, and about a choice when a person has every opportunity to get rid of what is ruining him (relationship with Tedros) but decides to stay, because he gets in them what he needs needed at the moment. As for me, in this series there are enough moments for "thinking", they don't throw everything in the forehead, and that's great.
@bts__army8127
@bts__army8127 11 ай бұрын
On any application that shows the series, please respond 🥺
@rosesavocado8557
@rosesavocado8557 11 ай бұрын
This show makes me so pissed. It had such potential. It could have been the best show of the year and it could actually be Cannes worthy. It could have been such a good show with multiple seasons… However, they took all the potential and decided they hate money and made this instead SMH.
@BgcBad
@BgcBad 11 ай бұрын
The ending confused me with Jos taking Tedros back, but I was happy with the ending for everyone. I’m not sure if I loved the show as a whole or not, but it definitely stuck with me after I finished it. I can’t get it out of my head. It was ugly, beautiful art.
@deadlynightshade4108
@deadlynightshade4108 11 ай бұрын
And the weekend will never act again. Some singers should just stay on their lane.
@blackdateline1996
@blackdateline1996 11 ай бұрын
This was a series finale. Two episodes combined in one.. Definitely not coming back
@yensbird
@yensbird 11 ай бұрын
This show seemed like toooo fast and toooo slow at the same time
@XYZ123X
@XYZ123X 11 ай бұрын
Does anyone think the new brush was for Tedros? He is her new "mom". She threw out the old brush her mother beat her with- and got a new one just for him. ???
@ml9508
@ml9508 11 ай бұрын
I thought of that too. I guess we will never know for sure but it makes sense to me because too many people knew of the mom abuse for it to all be a lie. Otherwise you would have to believe that when he was beating her with the brush he just didn't notice it was new? New brush for a new and sick relationship dynamic?
@jaymoney5843
@jaymoney5843 11 ай бұрын
The abuse from her mother was real, but the abuse from Tedros was set up, jocelyn want to be hurt to make herself feel alive to make better music. So she faked her way into a contract by tricking the company to kick Tedros out of the his earnings and power over her contract even thou he was the one to bring it to life…but the music was real and the pain was real !
@tmarie69
@tmarie69 11 ай бұрын
It definitely needed another episode. Not because the show is good, but because the twist seems rushed and makes no kind of sense.
@killmonger5097
@killmonger5097 11 ай бұрын
I just learned this was a season finale by watching this video I had no idea it was over already I just started watching the show yesterday and binge 5 episodes
@BrainPilot
@BrainPilot 11 ай бұрын
Yeah it's so short!
@tru.th1z
@tru.th1z 11 ай бұрын
The red hood analogy at the end was that she wasn’t actually little red riding hood but instead the wolf pretending who she would be and eating everyone around her.
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