Why the new hybrid Mercedes-AMG C63 Estate gets trounced by the BMW M3 Touring

[@jtherealtor]

Going from a V8 to an i4 was one of the greatest debacles in automotive history

[@markbiggart1265]

Just shows a total disregard or ignorance over what their customers actually want and sales driven by policy rather than demand.

[@Billywoo12]

Hubris.

[@OBELISK3210]

& fact it may not do more miles to the tank as a v8 lol all because it lets out less immision

[@loooopeytunes]

I know they're refusing to use an inline 6 because they don't want to be labelled as a BMW rip-off. But they still have V6, and they made them in the past too. I wonder why they skipped the V6 and going straight to inline 4

[@gonzochild]

when I see comments like this I wonder what your solution would have been. You can't keep the V8 at 300g/km because you can't sell those in any volume and still hit your CO2 target. I6 isnt that much better on CO2 so how do you build an exciting car that achieves somewhere around 130-140g/km????

[@davidturnbull2270]

As an AMG owner for many years this breaks my heart - oh I now own a brand new M3 Touring and I love it!

[@tsaki_titan]

Finally, you're no longer gay.

[@TobiasHenreich]

Great to see you here my friend 😂❤

[@mateuszcr723]

Wake up, u are broke

[@Vnojan]

If that c63s had een v8 definitely would be my choice

[@clubbizarre]

Sure you do

[@enfantterrible4868]

What i hate most about the C63 is its inconsistency. The 680 hp are only there for 10 seconds. If its marketed with 680 hp, it needs to deliver it all the time

[@rohanw1989]

Totally agreed!! After 10 secs it's only producing 563bhp!

[@khia2805]

I thought, recalling the Mk7 Fiesta ST, you couldn’t publish “overboost” power as actual output…

[@gonzochild]

What you would be surprised about is how quickly it is able to recuperate and deliver another ten seconds.

[@crowntug]

I disagree, how often on your drive do you actually ever get to go full throttle for more than 10 seconds? Unless you are on the autobahn, you will probably never get less power than you are asking for. With that being said, it should still have come with a V8 instead. That nearly 500hp 2L 4-cyl is an astonishing engine, but this is still an AMG, and you buy them for the V8s.

[@ahemgee9542]

Im so glad my E55 has a massive supercharged V8, sounds like a muscle car, and funnily enough is alot lighter than the C63 E wagon, has a much bigger boot and is more comfortable in the ride. This is the biggest Fail in Mercedes history ever!!!

[@henzo7087]

BMW always was better than rust Mercedes anyway

[@Duschanio1]

ahh cmon e55 was a shit enginie ... massive oil consumption ...

[@ahemgee9542]

@Duschanio1 m113k is widely regarded as one of MB/ AMG best engines. Very simple, reliable , immensely torquey , responsive and easy to tune. Oil consumption is far less than any S52, S85, M156 or Audi 4.2 FSI. I completed an 1100 mile round trip to the Ring and no oil was used. E55 is a car btw not an engine 😉

[@BlagoP]

@Duschanio1 LOL Buddy, Mercedes isn't BMW with it's shitty V8s that consume and burn oil. The m113k doesn't burn anything.

[@IRoss106]

@@henzo7087lol

[@weed46]

Im really starting to enjoy The Intercooler. It feels like the old school Evo magazine, just down to earth common sense and honest aproach to the cars. Certainly doesn't feel like a paid review. No bullshit, bashing the weight of the cars and properly mentioning that they handle well, but would be better if they were lighter. And I don't get the "safety excuse" because with modern alloys and polymers, you can make make light cars. Giulia is a light car, and even the SUV Stelvio QV is lighter than the new M3 (forget the C63). Porsche 911 and Alpine can make very light cars without the use of exotic materials and keeping safety features, so there is no need for "small" saloons to be 2000kg on the scale. Yes, they might mask the weight when they drive, but the brakes, tires and road wear don't Good job The Intercooler, actually cinsidering subscribing the app based on your latest shows.

[@somerandomfella]

This channel will go far.

[@fuhrerpolizei86]

Yup, picking the Giulia QV over these 2 anyday!

[@brandonairey4040]

It’s just mind blowing that AMG didn’t put the electric turbo on their inline 6 for a nice round 600hp and AWD. I actually like the simplified C43 with its e turbo 2.0 and no hybrid.

[@imnotusingmyrealname4566]

They thought people buy AMG for the latest "tech".

[@maxjtj31]

Would have been epic. Only need a tiny battery for that too.

[@alanwayte432]

I am fortunate enough to have a Alpina Touring 23 plate, the ride and comfort are exceptional.and it’s only slightly slower than M3 in the U.K. with a 70mph speed limit

[@PhilMann]

Yup me too. I think it's really the best version of the 3 series available on the market. Better suspension and ride quality, better seats and more torque than the M3 means it's just a better car for the majority of drives and has the added benefit of looking better as well!

[@tsholofeloregopotswe4529]

Can I be your guys friend 😢I only look at cars on KZbin

[@gregorygant4242]

Yep the Alpina Touring would be a better car for every day use better suspension, ride, smoother power delivery than the M3 Touring , does it have a higher top speed than this M3 touring ?

[@akerr911]

On the hunt for a b3 touring. Finding the right combination is really tough. It also seems owners hang on to them!!

[@turbosergei]

Alpina has S58 engine so it’s the best of both worlds!

[@markfox6081]

@danprosser , the unofficial fix for M3 competition ride quality is to apply the M3 CS electronic damper ECU map - it’s softer in comfort and firmer in Sport Plus. Makes it much more liveable.

[@marwood9421]

This C63 has been out for 1 year now. Only 6 used examples for sale on Autotrader. Mercedes-AMG have had an absolute HOWLER, but the fact the AMG CEO still has a job shows me this is just the start of the end.

[@kingphiltheill]

The worse this plug-in nonsense gets, the more I adore my Alpine A110 GT. Simple, light, frugal, massive fun.

[@NomadJedi]

Thank you for buying one. Don't see enough of those on the road.

[@TasimanaOG]

and massive pace, the a110 gt does a near 12 second 1/4 mile! i absolutely love that car congrats.

[@lucwijngaard8413]

That's my favorite sportscar at the moment, great styling and prioritizes driving characteristics without comprizing too much on useability

[@davidmarshall6409]

Why are you comparing a small 2 seat coupe with family estate cars?

[@rosinor6406]

Plug in has its place. Like the X5 50e is a great machine. But going 4cyl was always going to be suicidal for the C63. That makes no sense. Remember that in some countries (France and Italy) full ICE and lots of power and CO2 are being taxed out of existence.

[@doubledangerous7898]

I've got a facelift A45s and a M3 Touring, and in the hatchback, that 4 cylinder is superb, but couldn't imagine it in a bigger car. M division is basically peerless in this class.

[@albundy5992]

No one will buy the C63.

[@faizelphilander6938]

Me neither why pay V8 money for half the cylinders no way

[@mayormsuthu1465]

They bought it already what do you mean no one will buy it?

[@mTwMarco]

@@mayormsuthu1465sales numbers will drop - and he is right.

[@dandylion1987]

This car has been a sales disaster. Whether Mercedes learn from it .. time will tell​@@mayormsuthu1465

[@deanborisov]

@@mayormsuthu1465 very smal pourcentage of sales. Me personaly I've never seen one in the wild, just siting in the dealership

[@JohnMalcolm-g3h]

I’m with Andrew on this, my old e91 335i with a tune, m3 suspension and brakes is all I need.

[@ivarmarkusson382]

i was so upset when i saw what route mercedes where going with the c63, that i have kinda enjoyed watching everybody and their dog abselutely bash it... i actually think the m3 touring looks great, the best looking of the 3/4 series. but.. i would just get a used E63 wagon

[@1991julez]

One of your best videos. Great honesty and hit the nail on the head. Most of us don’t care about peak performance numbers when it comes to driving. But unfortunately that’s not what sells to those often rich enough to buy these types of car

[@bbkGT3]

Luv these guys and their reviews. They are so, so insighful.

[@johnnyboy1586]

I personally love the grill on the Beemer and think it really suits the touring, love how the bonnet creases taper down to meet the corners of the grill,looks aggressive!😮

[@karlvanginderdeuren4009]

If they would have called it the C45 Turbo hybrid, people would love this car. It seems like the ultimate daily.

[@willisan]

And priced appropriately, I agree.

[@AP-cc1uw]

It's really a shame Alfa never made a Giulia Touring. My Giulia QV rides much better than an M3, I think largely because its a bit lighter, but also because the suspension is more advanced despite being 8 years old. The front suspension for the Giulia is double wishbone whereas the M3 has a Macpherson strut. You can feel that difference in how stiff and unsettled the M3 feels over anything but perfect asphalt.

[@FLEETWOOD1400]

But that's the whole point of the competition badge/spec it's not supposed to be comfortable 😂

[@misterdragzon]

Double wishbone 👌🏼 sad BMW makes you jump up in wheelbase for that

[@AP-cc1uw]

@@FLEETWOOD1400 but it COULD be. Alfa figured it out. That’s the problem. To beat the Giulia on the Ring BMW stiffened up the suspension to the point where it is on the borderline of being unsuitable as a daily driver on many roads. It’s a shame

[@ilikeheadcrabs]

Guilia QV estate with updated tech would be mighty hard to beat. Always loved how the QV looks and sounds let alone everyone raving how great they are to drive

[@marcinbrzozowski7155]

of course, but I assume you refer to M3 E46. kzbin.info/www/bejne/fZuUmX6YhtV6pMU

[@Billywoo12]

If you looked up Hubris in the dictionary it would read: “Mercedes replaces V8 with i4, sales plummet.”

[@gonzochild]

its not hubris though, its just the requirements to hit regulations

[@Billywoo12]

@@gonzochild nonsense. They didn't need to do it - they could have kept the V8 and paid the fine, if they overshot their limit. They would have pleased their customers. I believe they were trying to offset the costs of the hybrid tech and the cheap 4 cylinder across multiple platforms, hoping the customer didn't notice. But they all did.

[@gonzochild]

@@Billywoo12 really, you think Mercedes wants to pay a 100 million euro fine to the eu for not hitting their target and then another to the uk govt.

[@Billywoo12]

@@gonzochild MB are well within range for not needing to pay a fine within the lifetime of this car. Their fleet average is pretty low, particularly since launching their EQ range. I wonder how much this decision has actually cost them?

[@gonzochild]

@@Billywoo12 you couldn't be more wrong on that front, it goes right down to the wire every year and Mercedes and others are having to slow production down on ice vehicles at huge loss of sales and revenue just to get their average down.

[@Aliens_Gonna_Get_Ya]

4 cylinder hybrid AMG C63 just a fat shitbox 🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@Adam-gp7co]

😂😂😂😂

[@bootneck401664]

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@Aliens_Gonna_Get_Ya]

The more I see of these fat overcomplicated shitboxes… the more I luv my old MX5 & Jeep… 👍😊

[@USConnexion]

Enjoy your 💩 boxes

[@scherpebocht]

🤡💩

[@Aliens_Gonna_Get_Ya]

@@scherpebocht 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@xIcarus227]

@@scherpebocht stop describing yourself matey.

[@mrmorrisniceguy987]

The C63 looks absolutely stunning designwise and had Merc never had the C63 with a V8 it would be a damn good car but they are acting like it never happened… Im just glad that Mercedes is going back to V8's at least with the CLE 63

[@paco1661]

I have an m3 saloon the suspension is not that bad at all, the one being tested I think it may have lowering springs or something changed, as it has aftermarket exhaust, ram air induction kit. The only down side to the standard car is the noise, you need to add an aftermarket exhaust. Once you’ve done that it’s actually perfect! Very fast for a saloon, you can take the family out in it also.

[@andrewgalloway647]

Have had the M3 Touring since Aug’23 and love it!! However - I agree it is a little too firm and noisy for daily driving and living in Melbourne Australia (the speed camera capital of the world) I find I have too much unusable power - never thought I would complain about too much power 😂😂 unfortunately the 340i Touring isn’t available in AUS - if it was I would have gone for it 100%

[@USMC_LAterZ]

Must be nice. We've been begging for an M wagin for years. Supposedly, we're getting the M5 wagon, but with extreme low production numbers, who knows how many will be available in the U.S.? And, people with deep pockets will already have it allocated to them.

[@gregorygant4242]

Wait you got an M3 Touring in Australia that thing must cost a heap over there with the insane taxes in Australia ? The Aussie govt. f's you over with those taxes unless you got it used . Most of those speed cameras are from Bosch over there I think also you can't go more than like 120km/h in OZ it's illegal right ? That sucks with a car like this !

[@andrewgalloway647]

@@gregorygant4242 - correct it cost a bomb with our 33% (yes you read that right) luxury car tax - cost me $208k AUD to get it on the road - the govt are robbing us. And our speed limit tops out at 100km not 120km. I also ride BMW bikes so the speeding tickets come in thick and fast sometimes !!! And even used the seller passes on the luxury car tax so you still get smashed

[@andrewgalloway647]

@@USMC_LAterZ agree about availability - and in Australia the M5 Touring is being costed at $300K + AUD. We have 33% luxury car tax here…

[@USMC_LAterZ]

@andrewgalloway647 That's insane! I'd honestly be happy if we could just get the M340i wagon, but nope.... not even that.

[@minibus1351]

Didn't Mercedes already announce the V6 for the next facelift, because of the disaster in sales?

[@augustortiz]

I think they said the V8 is coming back

[@misterdragzon]

Not for the C63. In fact the CEO doubled down and said (lied) that customers care more about the tech…

[@MohsinWadee]

Rumours are the V8 will return for the CLE63 i.e. the Coupe.

[@MohsinWadee]

@@misterdragzon he's lying, that's more true of BMW customers.

[@rikkiseddo]

@@MohsinWadeeI think Audi are more the tech guys over BMW, Merc was more luxury and noise.

[@urbanstrencan]

Here the winer is definitely M3 Touring, AMG is just too heavy and to complicated. Great video keep it up with great work ❤🤟🤟😊

[@SevCars]

Just came across your channel. Great video and audio quality. It did get a bit boring towards the end, should probably have had some graphics or b-roll showing to compliment conversation. However I could not agree more. I've switched from Mercedes to a BMW M4. However the coming new CLE63 with a V8 definitely has my attention

[@Ndumei21]

Amazing review, spot on. Will see if the same energy will be served to the new M5

[@Carrera-gp9od]

When it came to fast estates the AMG would be my default choice every time. Until they put that pathetic 4 cyl into it , I now have zero interest in them . I’d have the BMW in a heartbeat.

[@ahemgee9542]

@@Carrera-gp9od agree

[@andrewgalloway647]

@@Carrera-gp9od same - I was in the market for a new car and would have 100% bought a V8 63 AMG wagon. As soon as I saw the 2 litre I went straight to BMW and ordered the m3 touring - Freaking love it !!! Smile every time I get into it.

[@JohnInSale]

Best looking BMW by far and deserved winner, just no rear tinted windows for me tho ♥️

[@andrewgalloway647]

@@JohnInSale they are standard - privacy glass. You can’t get them untinted

[@EvoraGT430]

Not exactly a high bar, is it?

[@JohnInSale]

@@andrewgalloway647 then it’s a no for me, sadly 🫣

[@JohnInSale]

@@EvoraGT430 sadly, with only tinted rears, then sadly not for me 😢

[@staenker1983]

I’m turning laps with the M3 Touring at Track Days. This car is crazy fast. The suspension is good for the performance it delivers - it even has a high speed valve thing going on which allows you to ride inside corner curbs. If ride quality is something you complain about, this is the wrong car for you. Take the m340i. The M3 is a sports car with sports car performance. It’s not perfect, but it’s a very fast and capable estate sports car that will make some Porsches sweat on track.

[@EvoraGT430]

You must get through a lot of tyres with such a lardy, powerful car.

[@staenker1983]

@@EvoraGT430 one set of PS4S lasts for about 2-4 track days, depending on the track and how many fuel tanks I’m going through. I’m more worried about the wear on the carbon ceramic brakes, but that’ll show over time. Next year I’ll try the PS Cup 2. Maybe they’ll last longer - they promise to be more load and temperature tolerant. Edit: Yes, the PS4S on normal road are really soft and wear down quite fast compared to the normal road tires on my mini cooper. But it’s not too bad either - I think 30-40k km will be doable on the road using the PS4S

[@silv3rArrow]

Fortunately the next iteration is going hybridised (turbo) v8. How much it will weight is a good question though

[@MichaelJShaffer]

I'd be curious to know what the comfort would be in the M3 Touring without the competition seats.

[@andrewhurstcars]

In other countries you can also spec the M3 with the smaller 18/19” wheel setup.

[@PEACEOUTXX1]

Trust me the sports seats are super comfy if u aren't fat asl 😂 I LOVE MINE

[@crowntug]

That nearly 500hp 2L 4-cyl is an amazing engine, I can’t wait to see what other applications they will put it in. Hopefully the A series variants will also get the power bump from this engine. This should’ve had a V8 though.

[@SteveTurner-xv4xy]

I'm a little confused. I owned a M340d until recently, was three years old and have now purchased a M340i in replacement. sadly they've stopped production of the M340d. I understand the M340d was a little heavier ( 75kg ) due to the diesel lump up front. That car ran on 19 inch run flats. The M340i is fitted with 18 inch non- run flat tyres. The ride on uneven country roads in the M340i is noticeably poorer than the diesel equivalent, although I'm lead to believe they have the same set up? As I say confused, surely BMW could fix both ride performance and comfort?

[@mategombas771]

Some manufacturer belive sportiness means firm ride. Sad.

[@peterhammer6915]

We had a M340i in Germany from Sixt for 10 days as rental car. It's super comfortable. Though the roads in Germany are lightyears better than in the UK. And it has character, way way more than a M340d.

[@foodonfilm5935]

You could have at least shown us inside the boots when you mentioned the space of the AMG

[@cjlove168]

Exactly how many overtake scenes are there in this video

[@joebellamy1]

I’ve had 3 c63 v8’s all fabulous. I ordered a new one, tested it and cancelled the order when I realised that full power only lasted seconds! Then you have a very very heavy A45s therefore slower! It’s a a mess so I bought a Porsche! Precision precision precision!

[@ilikeheadcrabs]

Would it be possible to switch up the suspension on the M3 to be a bit more forgiving? Either way it’s the pick. The new C63 is an absolute disaster, and you can see with how many they’ve sold. I’m yet to see a single one, and I’m not alone. Plenty of M3s and RS4s on the road here in the UK at least.

[@augustortiz]

How does the AMG feel with Master Race mode engaged on the road?

[@Kelveron]

Re the M3's ride, other tests I've seen agree that it is firm, but not to the extent that these guys seem to find irritating!

[@gregorygant4242]

Yes he's exaggerating a bit that's the point of an M3 ,handing , agility ,response , all those come with a very firm ride it comes with the territory .

[@davidnjuguna9477]

So, at the conclusion at the end @11:55, the Merc weighs 250kg more than the M3 Touring but still feels nimble and has a better ride - the paradoxical argument falls flat as Merc have done a better job at hiding the weight of a much heavier car (250-kg heavier) and has the performance to keep up with a car that has 2 more cylinders. It should win on engineering alone. It seems the biggest criticism is that it has a boot smaller than a Golf hatchback.

[@peterhammer6915]

did you watch the video? At no point did they say the Merc handles better. Actually it handles way way worse. It's not a sports estate in any other way than straight line speed.

[@davidnjuguna9477]

@peterhammer6915 I put a time stamp where they are discussing the ride quality. The C63 is heavier but has better ride quality than the M3. Paradoxically, the M3 has a terrible ride because it's heavy. I said ride - you read handling. @8:40 The C63 is the better of the two cars over bumps and road imperfections - the M3 would be better on a track. As a daily driver, the C63 is better. As a track car, go for the M3.

[@peterhammer6915]

@@davidnjuguna9477 In the end they still both chose the M3 without any hesitation. And I could not see them driving on a track 😊

[@davidnjuguna9477]

@peterhammer6915 Listen from @17:00 on which one strikes the better balance. They would choose a V8 over a 4-cylinder because they are almost expected to do so as motoring journalists. The argument @16:00 to @16:05 is that raw performance doesn't matter that much. You want a car that wouldn't break your back every time you drive it.

[@peterhammer6915]

@@davidnjuguna9477 where is the 8-cylinder v8?

[@paultucker1272]

The Merc would be much more acceptable if it weren't badged as an AMG.......at least not an AMG 63. Looking forward to them reinstalling the V8 in a year or so. Can they also reinstall the previous gen interior, too?

[@PEACEOUTXX1]

I've owned an audi rs5 , audi rs3, bmw m4 f82 and now a bmw m4 g82... m4 g82 (after u get a carbon grille and front lip) is the best car I've ever owned and the amount of compliments is insane! It just looks mean asf on the road!

[@gregorygant4242]

The M3 Touring is a great practical fast car daily driver . After the Audi Avant RS6 this is my dream super fast German station wagon (estate).

[@somerandomfella]

The C63 will be a unicorn. Rare af..

[@jeebus2121]

I'm in the US, and a local--quite large--Mercedes dealer has two new C63 S's. Neither was afforded a premier location in the showroom, and both are situated in the lot in such a way to indicate no one is asking to test drive them. They are multiple layers deep with normal C and E class in front of them. I suspect the MSRP discounts will be significant just to get them off the lot.

[@waverleyjournalise5757]

It's ironic that in the same generation AMG retired the proper C63, BMW listened to their customers and brought out an estate. Double L, shame about the sales, if only we could have seen this coming.

[@faizelphilander6938]

BMW such a good car.. Four cylinders in the Mercedes for the price of a V8 NO WAY NO FREAKING WAY. Not worth the price and there's nothing to it with regards to power train, performance and then sound I'm not too convinced about the Mercedes, I don't hate cars, but to me this Merc just don't cut it.

[@torrhthc4103]

Can just scrap the c63s, it is a complete failure… if they put this setup in a cla then it will troll the competition.. Upgrade the c63s back to v8 with hybrid like the M5, put this setup into cla.. thats what people want i think

[@mbingham10]

M3 all day long never thought I would say that after owning a new 125 edition C63 V8 normally aspirated I have just got a G87 M2 for the wife and its a great car

[@paramdeepdhaliwal9694]

Hi guys i just subscribed ur chennel although i m following it from long time but never bothered to do so ur doing excellent work keep it up greetings from Toronto Canada

[@Bimmer_Bill]

These guys deserve far more subscribers!

[@mauriciomorales8863]

Great content! proper automotive journalism

[@sydneyNemesis101]

great content mate! really enjoyed it, bmw definetly for engaging car but for the prestige living in an affluent area it’s mercedes, hard one to pick

[@The_Hogan_Fam]

Is the Avon M3 not running 630bhp, you guys have said it’s standard ? Not really best comparison then

[@lechprotean]

for those considering m3 as their daily, I highly recommend m340i - a lot cheaper, you can tow and the single turnbo torque range is more useful in daily, non-race driving.

[@jin5827]

M3 T all the way~ M3 T is the winner!!!

[@loooopeytunes]

I know they're refusing to use an inline 6 because they don't want to be labelled as a BMW rip-off. But they still have V6, and they made them in the past too. I wonder why they skipped the V6 and going straight to inline 4

[@Bimmer_Bill]

Simple they figure they didn’t need the v6 to meet the power target and the I4 is lighter. We all know that these hybrids are heavy pigs.

[@loooopeytunes]

@@Bimmer_Bill I know, but a hybrid V6 is still lighter than the G90 M5 hybrid V8 though

[@resnonverba137]

Felt exactly the same about the BMW 330e and the M340d.

[@racebannon2332]

As an owner of the amazing GLE AMG 63s I will never purchase an AMG with a 4 cylinder

[@wojo8779]

What's the weight of that one?

[@WildWill176]

Where was this filmed! The roads are awesome.

[@Detail_Den_UK]

I can forgive the M3 touring for its weight, as ultimately it needed everything that modern safety standards expect, and modern consumers demand. So with that in mind BMW have done remarkably well. I suppose they could have made it lighter still with my carbon fibre, titanium and other exotic materials from obscure ends of the periodic table, but then it would have cost £300k and nobody would buy it. So I say bravo BMW. Mercedes unfortunately bet the wrong way, screwed the pooch and this new C63 will bomb as far as sales are concerned. Standby for the facelift to have a straight 6 or V6 engine.

[@giofreddi]

I really find my M3 Touring ride confort fantastic, even when riding with family on bad italian roads.

[@paulshepherd5649]

I bet you dont have those silly carbon bucket seats though, this car does.

[@BarryMakariou]

@@paulshepherd5649I find it better when more people are onboard

[@giofreddi]

@@paulshepherd5649 correct, I have standard seats.

[@666impreza666]

As a mercedes guy there is no doubt anyone affording one of these should totally go for the BMW. The only acceptable performance hybrid out there is the panamera.

[@nicholaslopez7918]

Excellent comparison test, extremely informative for buyers, I purchased a ratty k10 micra with 120k off the back of this.

[@franciscocabrerabrito5945]

An Alpine A110R was beaten by a few seconds in a small twisty track by a M3 Touring with a Thule trunk on top in a spanish channel (check Garage Days by Dani Cuadrado -former racing driver-). I think that says enough of how extremely good it is. Greetings from Spain.

[@EvoraGT430]

What was the price difference again?

[@bvlog4857]

Owning an M139 engine rated at 382 HP ( GLA 45 ) With a simple tune I make 490 HP and almost keep up with this C63SE which is INSANE

[@harryz7409]

5:15 is that garret turbo stock? or upgrated after market?

[@EbizzerHH]

The M3 Touring ist just too perfect all around to be touched in a long long time!

[@stephenlongfield8492]

Those badges on the M3 are fucking atrocious 🤣

[@motorfab7014]

Cliente: "V8 4 litri biturbo?" AMG: "no... 4" Ok ci penso mentre vado a Monaco 😂

[@rybackracing8075]

Mercedes really helped out previous generation C63 owners with this one. Residuals will be solid!

[@claytonlester1872]

Hate the amg 4 banger, but gotta love the innovation and engineering marvel that has been put into the amg, appreciate that a lot even you hate the engine

[@Menace..]

The AMG C ”63” isn’t even available in North America because dealers don’t think they can sell them, and they’re right. I think a redesign is coming quickly with an I6 or V8

[@R_301.1]

The RS4 character and influence is really something to think that others are trying to be like it or even better!

[@IRoss106]

I’m continuing to struggle with BMW’s new “design language” if stacking odd bits of bumper and trim on top of one another, multiple times over even considered design language.

[@tdoteva4973]

That mercedes is awesome 👍 well done

[@dworkin7110]

The 296 is utterly amazing. Yes it’s a v6 but it sounds incredible. The car is better than the F8 in every way. However with the Merc the change to a 4 and all the weight is a step too far.

[@kriordan25]

Love the BMW grille

[@scc9512]

Can anyone tell where these roads are he's driving on???

[@fossilfueled27]

I think making a case for either of these cars is difficult when the previous generations of both exist. I dread to think what issues are going to arise when that AMG gets to 5 or 10 years old. I can't see a 2 litre engine pushing nearly 500hp being very reliable...

[@rajjy1976]

Would’ve been nice to have seen the comprised boot shape in the C63. You mentioned it twice after all… 🙄

[@Viewmp]

I dont understsnd how people dont like the look of the M3, it is so 😎

[@adamevo6]

Bmw M cars are just amazing atm set the bar really high, the mercs just don’t quite do it imo

[@ScrotieHongKong]

Fast estates rock - my Porsche CT TS is insanely good

[@jw6188]

Imagine how disappointed the engineers are to hear that the car is such a brilliant drive but is let down by how it looks.

[@mayhem88]

I own the M3 Touring and i find the ride very comfortable.

[@tepes141]

Alpina B3 Touring GT.. for something even better and exclusive than M3 Touring 💪😉

[@SiyxmTTS]

The audio engineer of this video needs to redcude music volume when you’re talking about the car.

[@santana9537]

M3 all day long 😍😍😍

[@Nucleosynthese]

I can't believe how cheap these cars are in the UK compared to what they cost in the Netherlands.

[@mav1202M2]

Another fantastic rewiew. Not sure about your colleague - it‘s like a pro actor beside an amateur (IMHO).

[@cjmc5633]

Why couldn't Mercedes use the V8 engine out of the SLK55 AMG that can be driven using only 4 cylinders Combined with electric power instead?

[@gazman9468]

That first shot tells all - Merc thinking that the instant torque from the electric would make up for the complete lack of sound and character. I bet a compact V6 wouldn't have weighed much more than the I4 in the Merc. But then they couldn't have just lazily fitted an existing engine. They'll now blame poor sales on lack of demand for fast estates. Both of these cars are far too heavy though at least the BMW is the right side of the 2 ton mark.

[@Schaems_du_disch_nisch]

Both looking good, but the m3 is just aaa🤤

[@markmicallef4367]

I'm sure that 90% of the people commenting negatively wouldn't know it's a 4 cylinder engine unless they watch this vid! The BMW has an uncomfortable ride, always. I'm sure F1 and LM engineers would beg to differ with these experts comparing smaller bore engines and weight.

[@IRoss106]

While I believe the car that represents the C63 should exist in Mercedes’ line up, just not in C63 form.

[@E63s_Scott]

That side by side shot shows how good that c63 looks, here’s the kicker… yep you know what I’m about to say! NO V8 everything else except the weight and no v8 would make me go merc! It’s a stunning car especially in that spec. Unfortunately It’s heavier than my damn E63S! Yet i still have way more leg room and full power on tap at any point, hopefully amg listened and saw the abysmal sales have can stand up to this euro NONSENSE emissions scam and see sense