As I can see, I’m not the only person who really appreciates this explanation. I first noticed Daimler cars living in South Africa in the 2000s. They always looked like re-badged Jags. It has confused me for years, but my confusion and curiosity was never enough to look into the matter. Thank you for making this video.
@Thanos.m2 жыл бұрын
Basically it has become and an ultra luxurious trim level for jaguar but they there hasn't been another one since the the lunch of the new style XJ In 2010
@chi-82892 жыл бұрын
Lol. According to Brits, everything in the world is invented by Brits 😂. Recently i was watching a British documentary about Wright Brothers first flight, in that also they included some British names out of no where. Never heard about them😂 Wright brothers uncle's relatives wife's brother's eldest son's wife's brother was working in London as a peon and one evening he suggested about flying. That's how wright brothers got their idea. These Brits 😂. Untile 1940s when openheimer did his experiments in extreme secret, no Brit has ever heard about an atom bomb. But you watch British documentaries about atom bomb, you'll hear only British names 😂. These dudes 😂 According to the Brits and British documentaries: Paper was invented in Britain 😂 Water was first discovered in Britain 😂 Mercedes Benz was invented in Britain 😂 American Wright brothers invented aeroplane in Britain 😂 Steve Jobs invented iPhone in Britain 😂🤣 Sanskrit, Latin etc was invented in Britain 😂😂 Pyriamids were built by a Brit 😂 Great wall of China was designed by a Brit 😂 Automobile was invented by a Brit 😂😂😂🤣 Ford invented assembly line after a Brit told him secretly 😂😂😂 Colosseum, Eiffel tower etc was built by Brits 😂😂 Internet, Chinese languages, Thai etc was invented by Brits 😂😂 When Niel Armstrong reached moon, a Brit was waiting for him there. 😂😂 Tesla is invented in Britain 😂😂😂 A Brit told Einstein e=mc2 😭 If you hear documentaries of this dude, you'll believe that everything from Asia to America's was invented by these dudes. In reality, these dudes couldn't even invent a hair pin. 100% of British inventions are stolen or cheap copies of Nazi Germany technologies 😂😂
@skylin7372 жыл бұрын
Now it's tata
@razvandobos97592 жыл бұрын
I’d love for Daimler to make cars again with their badge. And Lanchester. They haven’t made a car since 1956 but they’re still an active marque
@Lando-kx6so2 жыл бұрын
They should be JLRs brand to compete with Rolls Royce & Bentley
@Thanos.m2 жыл бұрын
To be honest I think jag should simply move upmarket and stop trying to compete with BMW or Mercedes as it never succeeds at that and maybe introduce a brand bellow they own the Rover marque for example
@stevenr24632 жыл бұрын
@@Thanos.m oh dear ... as a Jag passenger since 1968 and later driver, for at least two decades, I believe that Jaguar is no more. Not worth it. Forget it. It has become a revenge of the colonies.
@razvandobos97592 жыл бұрын
@@Lando-kx6so yes!
@Andrew-zv4fm2 жыл бұрын
Daimler is now a truck company. I was recently thinking about this and I think they should make it as a car company. But where do you place it?
@royvibes61262 жыл бұрын
How things changes today's Daimler is owned by Indian company . Kudos to TATA Motor and Ratan tata😎
@bishalnath242 жыл бұрын
still we need the diamond back.
@geriatricmotorcars95162 жыл бұрын
That's as far as it goes name only
@awdhootkanawade2 жыл бұрын
@@bishalnath24 aisa mat bolo bmro sab log apni apni chize mangne lage to adhe se jyada England khali ho jayega 😪
@kaushikchoudhury37692 жыл бұрын
@@awdhootkanawade 🤣
@RitamSanyal2 жыл бұрын
@@awdhootkanawade sarcasm 🤣
@floydblandston1082 жыл бұрын
As an American, my only experience with these came by way of my Father, who spent enough time in Europe with the U.S. Army to become seriously infatuated with (among others) the Daimler-Jag V8. He told me about them for years until we came across one at an auto show. He actually owned a pre-WWII Mercedes sedan, a V8 BMW, and a Beetle he picked up new right at the factory. While working for a major German distributor during his time off-base, he got to set up new Porsche Speedsters for delivery, lapping them on the banked track behind the dealership, with many going to Allied officers. He also claims to be the first person to drive the NSU rotary engine in its test mule chassis, blasting laps at a then mind blowing 8-9000 rpm. Pretty exciting stuff for a 19 year old kid who'd grown up building stripped down flathead V8 1930's Ford roadsters....
@stevenr24632 жыл бұрын
cool!
@nlpnt2 жыл бұрын
American-market Jaguar-era Daimlers were marketed as "Jaguar (model name) Vanden Plas".
@basilpunton57022 жыл бұрын
Jag got 2 good V8 engines by the takeover, but failed to make good use of either. The 2.5 V8 when fitted the Mk2 Jag was a lighter and more powerful than the 2.4 inline6 by Jag. The 4.4 V8 beat the Jag 3.8 in a similar way. But the idiots at Jag suffered from the not invented here syndrome and refused to take these engines seriously.
@floydblandston1082 жыл бұрын
@@basilpunton5702 - it's an interesting argument; if the absolute potential increase in displacement created by 'v'-type engines isn't required, is the inline the better type? Many German and English companies seem to have favored the inline, while here in the US "V8's are great", and sixes (even v-type) seem to be considered dull.
@basilpunton57022 жыл бұрын
@@floydblandston108 I was alluding to the weight and power of the V8 engines. You are right about the differences between cultures.The Jag i6 were heavy and lower power compared to the V8's. I do not care what is the cylinder count. At 2.5l it is realistically top of 4 and bottom of 8 cylinders, there are exceptions mainly diesel 4's. Weight/power/fuel usage are what is most important.
@davidjones3322 жыл бұрын
It's worth recording that the Royal Family were almost exclusively Daimler users until the present Queen changed her allegiance to Rolls Royce in the 1950s. One reason was that the patented Daimler "fluid flywheel" preselector transmission made them ideal for low-speed parade work. From the mid 30s the British Daimler company made more money from their bus chassis than from the cars, the last buses coming off the production line in 1981. That same transmission which made for ease of driving was still a major selling point.
@floydblandston1082 жыл бұрын
Not to mention, the 'Windsors' have always been sort of 'ixnay on the Ermanjay' about themselves....
@stephensomersify Жыл бұрын
Daimler Super V8 - Queen Elizabeth's personal car! - old git, UK
@allanelder27112 жыл бұрын
No mention of Daimler buses that were made in the United Kingdom. The last model was the Daimler Fleetline, a double deck bus chassis that was very popular with municipal bus operators until production ended in the early 1980's.
@Elecks.2 жыл бұрын
as a kid i saw Jaguars with a Daimler badge, and i never did understand. But this video clears it all up.
@jw694402 жыл бұрын
I like these shorter, more informal style of videos. A nice change of pace while still being informative
@BigCar22 жыл бұрын
Glad you liked it. I was trying something different.
@paulthomas66092 жыл бұрын
Many thanks for another great video, and a fantastic cameo of the Lego Technic Test Car must be 25 years since I built mine as a young teenager. 👍
@golden.lights.twinkle23292 жыл бұрын
My 1984 Mercedes had on its data plate 'Manufactured by Daimler-Benz'. Mercedes was simply the name of the daughter of Daimler-Benz's best client.
@fabiandimaspratama2 жыл бұрын
Perfect content as always, sir. It clears up my confusion, why "Daimler" (a seemingly German brand) was a producer of British armored vehicle and automobiles.
@CodewortSchinken2 жыл бұрын
There was also Austro-Daimler, which started as a sister company of german Daimler in Austria but became independent in 1909. They stopped making cars in the 1930s and went up in the Steyer-Daimler-Puch industrial conglomerate. In the 1970s now Steyer-Puch colaborated with Mercedes Benz to design and manufacture an off-road vehicle, which became the g-class.
@vrc482 жыл бұрын
Interesting!
@scottishcarenthusiastsandtrain2 жыл бұрын
For me growing up I always knew them as posh jags, but later I knew about the Mercedes tie in, but never knew about the Indian connection. Great and informative video.
@vectorfiles2 жыл бұрын
no Mercedes tie in. Daimler tie in. The Mercedes brand name was created years later by Emil Jellinek, son of a Vienna rabbi, who became Daimler´s (DMG, Daimler Motorengesellschaft) first international salesman. Mercedes was the name of Emil Jellinek´s daughter. Jellinek´s first wife was from a Sephardic (Spanish) Jewish family in Algiers. Hence the Spanish name of their daughter: Mercédès
@arjunarun30332 жыл бұрын
@@rnayabed they tried to make a car but it failed
@chi-82892 жыл бұрын
Lol. According to Brits, everything in the world is invented by Brits 😂. Recently i was watching a British documentary about Wright Brothers first flight, in that also they included some British names out of no where. Never heard about them😂 Wright brothers uncle's relatives wife's brother's eldest son's wife's brother was working in London as a peon and one evening he suggested about flying. That's how wright brothers got their idea. These Brits 😂. Untile 1940s when openheimer did his experiments in extreme secret, no Brit has ever heard about an atom bomb. But you watch British documentaries about atom bomb, you'll hear only British names 😂. These dudes 😂 According to the Brits and British documentaries: Paper was invented in Britain 😂 Water was first discovered in Britain 😂 Mercedes Benz was invented in Britain 😂 American Wright brothers invented aeroplane in Britain 😂 Steve Jobs invented iPhone in Britain 😂🤣 Sanskrit, Latin etc was invented in Britain 😂😂 Pyriamids were built by a Brit 😂 Great wall of China was designed by a Brit 😂 Automobile was invented by a Brit 😂😂😂🤣 Ford invented assembly line after a Brit told him secretly 😂😂😂 Colosseum, Eiffel tower etc was built by Brits 😂😂 Internet, Chinese languages, Thai etc was invented by Brits 😂😂 When Niel Armstrong reached moon, a Brit was waiting for him there. 😂😂 Tesla is invented in Britain 😂😂😂 A Brit told Einstein e=mc2 😭 If you hear documentaries of this dude, you'll believe that everything from Asia to America's was invented by these dudes. In reality, these dudes couldn't even invent a hair pin. 100% of British inventions are stolen or cheap copies of Nazi Germany technologies 😂😂
@ewshutup9102 жыл бұрын
@@chi-8289 umm chill dude?
@twentyeightO12 жыл бұрын
@@chi-8289 you've used the same emoji over 9000 times
@JakobKsGarage2 жыл бұрын
Nice of you to show the Danish "Crown One", The Queen's vehicle for official affairs, a DS 420, we enjoy seing around town here. When she's on private business, like personal shopping, she uses "Crown 121", which was a Jaguar XJ last time I saw it.
@spacekii2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this! I found the whole naming very confusing after seeing that Jags were also called Daimlers, but Daimler was the parent company of Merc
@nickcook74082 жыл бұрын
Jaguars are not called Daimler, Jaguars are called Jaguar. Jaguar offer a trim level called Daimler the same way that Ford offer a trim level called Ghia. Ford are not called Ghia.
@mesuesja802 жыл бұрын
Daimler was not parent company of Mercedes, Mercedes was just the market name of their vehicles.
@vectorfiles2 жыл бұрын
@@mesuesja80 yes, Daimler AG in Stuttgart, listed in the German DAX, was the parent company of Mercedes-Benz until 2019.
@dodecahedron1 Жыл бұрын
@@vectorfiles Daimler AG didn't change its name to Mercedes Benz group until February 2022, they also no longer make trucks since Daimler truck was spun off as a independent company in 2021
@PaulinesPastimes2 жыл бұрын
Interesting video, thank you. Love the picture of the car used to carry visitors to Medlow Bath, the location of the once fabulous Hydro Majestic Hotel, and the Jenolan Caves in the Blue Mountains west of Sydney.
@reglard2 жыл бұрын
I used to work for a coachbuilders Startins of Aston in the 80s we converted many DS420s to hearses they were beautiful comfortable old girls I always had a fondness for them.
@uncinarynin2 жыл бұрын
There has been a bit of restructuring in what was the Daimler AG. We now have three companies: Mercedes-Benz AG including sub-brands Mercedes-Maybach (luxury), Mercedes-AMG (performance), smart (small cars), Mercedes-EQ (electric cars). Daimler Trucks AG selling trucks and buses under the brands BharatBenz, Freightliner, FUSO, Mercedes-Benz (again), Setra, Thomas Built Buses and Western Star. And Mercedes-Benz Mobility AG specialising on financing, leasing, insurance and fleet management. (Side note: Siemens Mobility uses the same term but does something completely different: building trains ...) People will remember that Daimler-Benz, Daimler-Chrysler or just Daimler was the name of the corporation behind all of it but that's not true any more with the recent split up. Now it's a sub-brand of Mercedes-Benz Group ....
@ramadhanisme72 жыл бұрын
Fuso is under daimler now? So they have took over mitsubishi truck?
@uncinarynin2 жыл бұрын
@@ramadhanisme7 From what I found out, Fuso is 89% owned by Daimler Trucks and 11% by Mitsubishi. They are using the Mitsubishi trademark by a licence agreement.
@DaimlerSleeveValve2 жыл бұрын
My fave (beside my own) was the Majestic Major, a large saloon (sedan) introduced in 1960 and often built as a limousine. It was timed by one magazine as reaching 60 mph in 9.1 seconds. That's one really happy chauffeur!
@paulchamberlain62842 жыл бұрын
Interesting article but your pronunciation of Daimler may well have been correct in Germany but in the UK it's always been pronounced as "Dameler" (still spelt Daimler) we do say rain, not rine don't we??? and The Daimler Motor Company was a British company wasn't it? I have a few Daimler cars, not Dimelers!
@nickmorrison46372 жыл бұрын
Thank you for saying this - I didn't because of perhaps offence to what is a rather good channel.
@danielferris79602 жыл бұрын
Hear hear! Also amuses me that even the tyre company Michelin itself pronounces its name 'mitchellin' in its British advertising - only poncey restaurants pronounce it 'meeshlan'. And then there's Nestles, nobody in the UK used to call it Nestlé!
@vectorfiles2 жыл бұрын
The really interesting part is that Gottlieb Daimler was born Däumler (pronounced "Doimler"). Nowhere is it mentioned why he changed the spelling of his family name. My best guess is that he wanted to adopt his name to British spelling (as there is no "Umlaut ä" in the English alphabet) when he started selling engines in Britain.
@lplatino64272 жыл бұрын
@@vectorfiles or because Daumen means thumb in german and there is a story about the Däumling, a man as big as a thumb
@chi-82892 жыл бұрын
Lol. According to Brits, everything in the world is invented by Brits 😂. Recently i was watching a British documentary about Wright Brothers first flight, in that also they included some British names out of no where. Never heard about them😂 Wright brothers uncle's relatives wife's brother's eldest son's wife's brother was working in London as a peon and one evening he suggested about flying. That's how wright brothers got their idea. These Brits 😂. Untile 1940s when openheimer did his experiments in extreme secret, no Brit has ever heard about an atom bomb. But you watch British documentaries about atom bomb, you'll hear only British names 😂. These dudes 😂 According to the Brits and British documentaries: Paper was invented in Britain 😂 Water was first discovered in Britain 😂 Mercedes Benz was invented in Britain 😂 American Wright brothers invented aeroplane in Britain 😂 Steve Jobs invented iPhone in Britain 😂🤣 Sanskrit, Latin etc was invented in Britain 😂😂 Pyriamids were built by a Brit 😂 Great wall of China was designed by a Brit 😂 Automobile was invented by a Brit 😂😂😂🤣 Ford invented assembly line after a Brit told him secretly 😂😂😂 Colosseum, Eiffel tower etc was built by Brits 😂😂 Internet, Chinese languages, Thai etc was invented by Brits 😂😂 When Niel Armstrong reached moon, a Brit was waiting for him there. 😂😂 Tesla is invented in Britain 😂😂😂 A Brit told Einstein e=mc2 😭 If you hear documentaries of this dude, you'll believe that everything from Asia to America's was invented by these dudes. In reality, these dudes couldn't even invent a hair pin. 100% of British inventions are stolen or cheap copies of Nazi Germany technologies 😂😂
@joeseeking35722 жыл бұрын
The escapades of Sir Bernard and Lady Docker at the helm of BSA/Daimler in the 50's are a fascinating tidbit of automotive history. It's been suggested that they were the death of Daimlers for the Royals.
@BigCar22 жыл бұрын
Before you say it, Brits say "DAY-MLER", Germans say "DIE-MLER". I've picked one way to say it and I've stuck with it. To explain why Daimler became to use the Mercedes name, it was a brand name that they eventually used as their company name, maybe because of the confusion of using "Daimler".
@robertwestinghouse40982 жыл бұрын
I left 2 comment and they both disappears. Love your work...
@robertwestinghouse40982 жыл бұрын
When I was a boy we had a 2.5litre V8 in the Jag Mk2 body. Perhaps some info on Lady Docker and the Docker Daimlers that pushed the company into more financial distress. Daimler Dart, possibly first fibreglass bodied car. 4.2 and 2.5 V8 engines were excellent. But what happened to the German Engines?
@BigCar22 жыл бұрын
@@robertwestinghouse4098 Odd - I can see both of them.
@runoflife872 жыл бұрын
Brits also don't pronounce the "r" AFAIK.
@peterenis14342 жыл бұрын
More like „deimler“ 😉
@eggbirdtherooster2 жыл бұрын
This channel is gonna get HUGE in the near future.. Mark my words!
@andrewellison96392 жыл бұрын
In 1978 my wife and I were in England on holiday and hired an Imp in Liverpool and spent a couple of weeks touring Scotland. I hadn't seen one before and was very impressed with it, a real pleasure to drive. Prior to that we had the use of a mini which compared very poorly to the Imp.
@martinmuller28092 жыл бұрын
Gottlieb Daimler was an anglophile and in the early 1930s the German motorcycle company NSU built successful racing bikes constructed my Englishman Walter William Moore and ridden by Tom Bullus of Bradford. How good the 1940s could have been if engineers had shaped the future.
@royrand85212 жыл бұрын
True dat ! 😉
@Commentator5412 жыл бұрын
Your videos are pure joy! I wish Discovery channel had you onboard in it’s heyday. I see great things happening.
@jamesengland74612 жыл бұрын
I can't believe you forgot to mention Daimler-Chrysler! That was the name of the merged company, and found on thy plaque in my 99 Dodge Ram pickup.
@londonweekend2 жыл бұрын
It's really interesting about these other British luxury marques, Such as Lanchester, Armstrong-Siddeley, Alvis, Lagonda, Bristol, and pre Jaguar Daimlers, I also like Austin Sheerlines and Princesses, and how Vanden Plas and Princess changed from marque to model name to trim level or vice versa
@awescolme2 жыл бұрын
I have one of the last Daimler Super Eights, built in late 2008. Never seen another!
@jamieoconnor19162 жыл бұрын
Nice one thanks man I'm glad you did a video explaining Daimler 😀 much respect
@bernhardwagner57492 жыл бұрын
There was a 3rd Daimler car brand. Austro-Daimler. It was a hightech company in Austria-Hungary, creating tanks, aero engines, race cars and high end luxury cars. Car production ended in 1934 when the steyr-daimler-puch AG (some sort of austian british leyland) was founded. Some years ago someone bought the name and is now building a super GT with around 1000 hp under the name Austro-Daimler Bergmeister.
@philiprodney78842 жыл бұрын
Absolutely fascinating. I never knew the two were related. I always thought the UK company’s name was pronounced Dameler while the German, Dimeler. Incidentally, my P1 teacher, Miss Langmuir, with whom I was in love, had a Dameler, sorry, Dimeler.
@CaseyJonesNumber12 жыл бұрын
Nobody in the UK pronounces it 'Dimeler', at least, I've never heard it said that way. Most German brand name pronunciations get 'Anglicised' in the UK, either because of the spelling or because the German pronunciation is just too, er, German for us to get our tongues around!
@chi-82892 жыл бұрын
Lol. According to Brits, everything in the world is invented by Brits 😂. Recently i was watching a British documentary about Wright Brothers first flight, in that also they included some British names out of no where. Never heard about them😂 Wright brothers uncle's relatives wife's brother's eldest son's wife's brother was working in London as a peon and one evening he suggested about flying. That's how wright brothers got their idea. These Brits 😂. Untile 1940s when openheimer did his experiments in extreme secret, no Brit has ever heard about an atom bomb. But you watch British documentaries about atom bomb, you'll hear only British names 😂. These dudes 😂 According to the Brits and British documentaries: Paper was invented in Britain 😂 Water was first discovered in Britain 😂 Mercedes Benz was invented in Britain 😂 American Wright brothers invented aeroplane in Britain 😂 Steve Jobs invented iPhone in Britain 😂🤣 Sanskrit, Latin etc was invented in Britain 😂😂 Pyriamids were built by a Brit 😂 Great wall of China was designed by a Brit 😂 Automobile was invented by a Brit 😂😂😂🤣 Ford invented assembly line after a Brit told him secretly 😂😂😂 Colosseum, Eiffel tower etc was built by Brits 😂😂 Internet, Chinese languages, Thai etc was invented by Brits 😂😂 When Niel Armstrong reached moon, a Brit was waiting for him there. 😂😂 Tesla is invented in Britain 😂😂😂 A Brit told Einstein e=mc2 😭 If you hear documentaries of this dude, you'll believe that everything from Asia to America's was invented by these dudes. In reality, these dudes couldn't even invent a hair pin. 100% of British inventions are stolen or cheap copies of Nazi Germany technologies 😂😂
@flalji21662 жыл бұрын
@@chi-8289 yea the British told the world that their shitt doesn't stink 🦧
@bolkrr2 жыл бұрын
0:23 - Using sound from "Angry German Kid" was a nice touch
@threesixnine369six2 жыл бұрын
Was looking through the comments hoping someone else noticed haha
@Foxonian2 жыл бұрын
I remember seeing a Daimler version of an early 60's Jaguar Mk. II when I was a kid. It was imported to the States by serviceman and was very luxurious.
@stuartpenney68292 жыл бұрын
That was the Daimler 250 made from 1962-69. It had the same body as a Jaguar MKII but with a 2.5 litre V8 engine.
@artistwithouttalent2 жыл бұрын
Holy cow just noticed the logo. That's brilliant.
@kevindubuisson79062 жыл бұрын
Amazing. I am so delighted you did a video on this subject! Nice work.
@bigblue69172 жыл бұрын
Many years ago when cars were registered local the Queen's cars were registered in Kingston upon Hull. It has been a while since I came across this but I believe HRH may have been one of the registration alphabetical groups.
@TheFarCobra2 жыл бұрын
When I think of Daimler, I think of the 2.5 liter hemi V8 that is currently being rebuilt in our shop…. Which is based on a Triumph/Norton motorcycle engine.
@voltaelektrifiera35562 жыл бұрын
Thanks! I've been waiting for someone to explain this to me.
@Berven-gf9jq2 жыл бұрын
For some strange reason I seem to be hitting the like button way before the video ends...... Love your stuff, Mr. Big Car 🙂
@julupani2 жыл бұрын
Very informative video about the two "Daimlers". But a small correction. While Tata Motors had a long relationship with the Benz company of Germany, Daimler Benz no longer has any share ownership in Tata Motors. While Tata bought JLR, they did have about 5-6% share, because Mercedes Benz car manufacturing in India had partially depended on the Tata Motors manufacturing facilities at one time. In fact Mercedes Benz India started as a JV with Tata Motors, who were then called Telco (short for Tata Engineering and Locomotive Company Ltd.). Though over time Tata exited that JV and Daimler took a few shares in Tata Motors. But eventually once the co-operation was no longer required, and Tata effectively became a competitor through JLR, Daimler Benz divested its share of Tata Motors back in 2010.
@BigCar22 жыл бұрын
Thanks for clarifying. I think in the video I mentioned at the time of acquisition they had a part ownership, but as you say it was sold around 2010 I believe.
@TunedMercedes3 ай бұрын
i mean im not sure id say they are competitive. one is a market leader and the other one is a niche producer
@julupani3 ай бұрын
@@TunedMercedes Well "competitive" is a subjective matter, though I had only mentioned JLR are a competitor. Also, not sure I would call a manufacturer which had sales of over 400 thousand cars a "niche producer". And I think many will argue that the Range Rover series is still the benchmark in the premium SUV space.
@TunedMercedes3 ай бұрын
@@julupani this is a basic business school example actually. MB sets pretty much the market and then you have competitors to it that compete on power or other areas (bmw) and then niche manufacture that may dominate a segment like luxury off road vehicles, ultra luxury etc. I think range rover if they focuses on reliability it can continue to be a great brand.
@mrbennetts2 жыл бұрын
Sorry. Everyone’s being too polite to you here! Nobody in the UK has ever pronounced it Dimeler. It has always been Dame-ler.
@johndean9586 ай бұрын
well now we know the proper way to say it. you are showing your ignorance.
@blautens2 жыл бұрын
I was aware of Daimler (the engineer), but not of the strange, bifurcated nature and even the existence of the UK Daimler. Fascinating.
@stevenr24632 жыл бұрын
Hm, yes. We (GB) pronounced Daimler differently too. Big Car could have added not a pinch of salt but pepper to this doc by paying a little attention to the difference...
@jinxvrs2 жыл бұрын
The Mercedes name came about in 1900 - Emile Jellinek was a very wealthy individual and was the Consul-General for the Austro-Hungarian empire in Nice, France. He was a supporter of the Daimler company and acted as an unofficial distributor of the cars to his friends. Paul Daimler (Gottleib's son) had designed a new, more radical, car and Jellinek was so impressed, he placed an order for 36 of the new model paying a large amount of money up front. The new car was called the Mercedes after Jellinek's daughter. After that, all the cars were called Mercedes and later Mercedes-Benz, following the merger with the Benz company in the 1920s.
@royrand85212 жыл бұрын
Thank you for that Stephen; too many today neither know nor care about such fascinating details which bring little footnotes in history alive...
@matrixsenior2 жыл бұрын
This is brilliant. I have always wondered about this. I remember seeing what I thought were XJ6 Jaguars badged as Daimlers and thinking, 'The're German arnt they?
@bensonic68812 жыл бұрын
For goodness sake, man, when I was growing up in England in the 1960s and 70s, it was pronounced the way it looks, not "Dymeler".
@mauritsvw2 жыл бұрын
Maybe he's trying the German pronunciation, since that is the origin of the brand?
@lewis722 жыл бұрын
UK brand is Daymler. German is Diemler.
@lewis722 жыл бұрын
@@creamwobbly Nothing wrong with using the word "brand".
@xcvxc13382 жыл бұрын
And how does it look to be pronounced?
@nebroskitheraut67052 жыл бұрын
Ngl Pronouncing it as "Dymler" sounds way cooler than "Deimler"
@alain99v62 жыл бұрын
thank you for this little video, now I understand why the only Daimler I knew looked like old Jaguar and not Mercedes Benz
@leeevernden2 жыл бұрын
I do like the 90's Daimlers, I know they are really just posher Jags but they are that little bit more special. I can't see JLR bringing it back now though, especially since they dropped the new XJ.
@ciromuriel2 жыл бұрын
The XJ will return as an electric
@Hattonbank2 жыл бұрын
You mean the X391? It was cancelled late last year.
@martinneumann77832 жыл бұрын
Thanks for explaining! I always wanted to know this but I also always forgot to read something about it. So, thanks again. 👍
@exoroxx2 жыл бұрын
Thanks! I always wondered how we got Jaguars under the Daimler brand. Daimler was and is still often used by workers of Mercedes-Benz AG (former Daimler-Benz and DaimlerChrysler) to represent their company. The say "Ich schaff beim Daimler" and they didn't mention neither Mercedes nor Benz. So... Daimler is still a thing in Germany, although is officially not used anymore for the car division.
@verttikoo20522 жыл бұрын
That was a refreshing video 🥳 Thank you 👍
@BigCar22 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@torresalex2 жыл бұрын
Great explanation! Thanks for that!
@londonweekend2 жыл бұрын
We call it 'DAME-ler' in England...which by your accent you shoud know! Theres also confusion with Talbot being both English and French at the same time and being hyphonated with Clement -, - Lago, -Darracq, and Sunbeam -, or just standalone...You could do one about that.
@TheUglyGnome2 жыл бұрын
Nice colours on channel's logo 👍
@pradhyudh2 жыл бұрын
The fighting and talking voices were impressive
@daveayerstdavies2 жыл бұрын
"Daym-luh" is the most widely accepted British pronunciation of Daimler, not "dime-lah".
@thearousedeunuch2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for making this video. I have always wondered why/how two Daimlers existed, and if there was any connection between the two.
@lrs32 жыл бұрын
I always wondered if there was a connection between the two
@stephans19902 жыл бұрын
I've often wondered indeed why Jaguar hasn't reintroduced Daimler as like an ultra luxury trim level on their cars indeed.
@stevenr24632 жыл бұрын
Well, now you know ...
@londonweekend2 жыл бұрын
@@stevenr2463 In the UK it wasn't a trim level it was a separate marque, like how we got the (non classic) Mercury Cougar as a Ford Cougar because we don't have the Mercury marque over here
@stevenr24632 жыл бұрын
@@londonweekend I am from Guernsey, GB. Seems I might have been misunderstood.
@jochenpeiper67972 жыл бұрын
purchased my first British Exoticar in 1975 ( 20 yrs. old , Working Cowboy in TEXAS ) 1975 Lotus Europa S2 ( Renault Power ) daily driver for 8 yrs. , 40+ yrs. , 3 live aboard Yachts , a luxury Motor Coach , and a TRUCK LOAD of Cars LATER !!!! lol , still a wild a$$ Cowboy / Surfer here on Padre Island !!!! watched your Crossfire mini docu ( sweet ) , currently living at Beach Front RV Resort with my Coach , race car trailer and my 06 Daimler Ghia Crossfire ( purchased NEW in 06 ) i have discovered , lol , when you are on a RIGHTOUS SURFING SAFARI DONT EVER STOP !!!!
@nigelwest34302 жыл бұрын
Strange pronunciation of Daimler it's DAimler (Day im ler) not DIamler, As for the same company making the Mini as the Limos, The vast majority of the Limos were built at Vanden Plas in Kingsbury
@vauxhallfan6762 жыл бұрын
Man always wondered what the heck Daimler was. This video helps me understand thanks
@fredericksaxton39912 жыл бұрын
I must say I appreciate that explanation, But I have never heard DayMler pronounced as DimeLer.. Thanks.
@TunedMercedes3 ай бұрын
great video. my dad had a bunch of XKR XJR (we modified them quite a bit) from the era that they also sold Daimler which was next level up but less sporty. I got to see a lot of them new though. They were a little longer and had picnic tray tables, that is what stood out about the 90-00 daimler jaguars
@lionel1772 жыл бұрын
Much as I always love these Videos I do find you saying "Dyemlar" annoying. All my friends always called it "Dame-lar". Even the BBC would agree with that.
@Martin21532 жыл бұрын
I noticed a photo early in this video of a Daimler car with signwriting that said "Medlow Bath and Jenolan Caves" A nice little Australian connections as they are two areas in the Blue Mountains to the west of Sydney. I know them both well. BTW, I noticed you pronounce the name like "Dime ler", I always thought it was "Dame ler". I guess I had it wrong all these years.
@sailaab2 жыл бұрын
Such crisp and well produced mini documentary type bulletin👌🏽👍🏼 As someone from India and as someone who saw it first hand (in the 1990s) of how the Tata's never really took pride in.. nor really marketed the Mercedes CKDs they assembled.... ..i simply feel sorry for the Jaguar brand now.
@maya007952 жыл бұрын
Nice information 👍🏻👍🏻🙏 greetings from India
@kwozniaktube2 жыл бұрын
Love these videos! Call me a completist, but when you get a chance you should do the Rover 600 story!
@BigCar22 жыл бұрын
I’ll have to do that one!
@Henry_Jones2 жыл бұрын
I always assumed they were 2 different companies whos unrelated founders just so happened to have the same name.
@rikuurufu55342 жыл бұрын
You didn't answer the question posed in the title.
@nlpnt2 жыл бұрын
Britain was not the only country where Gottlieb Daimler entered a licensing agreement, there was also Austro-Daimler (which gave Ferdinand Porsche his start in the auto industry and which marketed a "Maja" car named after Emil Jellinek's *other* daughter) and, briefly, America (the "American Mercedes" built by the family that owned the Steinway piano company). It showed how little he knew about how the industry and markets would work out that Daimler (the man) gave Simms the license for all the British Empire which left the Steinways with the US only. Even ten years later, Simms would've wound up the licensee for the British Empire excluding Canada and Steinway the one for USA *and* Canada.
@stevenr24632 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much indeed! While I roughly knew the whole story, I am very grateful for your excellent brief explanation! I am sure most people had no idea! Very well told!
@stevenr24632 жыл бұрын
Just one remark: you (Big Car) could have added not a pinch of salt but rather a bit of pepper by paying attention to the different pronounciation between the German and British Daimler companies. Myself being British born but also German language speaker. You only used the German (original) pronounciation.
@BigCar22 жыл бұрын
To be honest I wasn't aware of the British pronunciation. I've been living in the US too long! When I was made aware of it after the Chrysler Crossfire video I thought of changing to say "daymler" for the British one, but the video was already in the can. I agree it would have been better, at least to differentiate both companies audibly.
@stevenr24632 жыл бұрын
@@BigCar2Big Car - you are living in the US??? Honestly? Your English is still very good ... 😉
@chi-82892 жыл бұрын
Lol. According to Brits, everything in the world is invented by Brits 😂. Recently i was watching a British documentary about Wright Brothers first flight, in that also they included some British names out of no where. Never heard about them😂 Wright brothers uncle's relatives wife's brother's eldest son's wife's brother was working in London as a peon and one evening he suggested about flying. That's how wright brothers got their idea. These Brits 😂. Untile 1940s when openheimer did his experiments in extreme secret, no Brit has ever heard about an atom bomb. But you watch British documentaries about atom bomb, you'll hear only British names 😂. These dudes 😂 According to the Brits and British documentaries: Paper was invented in Britain 😂 Water was first discovered in Britain 😂 Mercedes Benz was invented in Britain 😂 American Wright brothers invented aeroplane in Britain 😂 Steve Jobs invented iPhone in Britain 😂🤣 Sanskrit, Latin etc was invented in Britain 😂😂 Pyriamids were built by a Brit 😂 Great wall of China was designed by a Brit 😂 Automobile was invented by a Brit 😂😂😂🤣 Ford invented assembly line after a Brit told him secretly 😂😂😂 Colosseum, Eiffel tower etc was built by Brits 😂😂 Internet, Chinese languages, Thai etc was invented by Brits 😂😂 When Niel Armstrong reached moon, a Brit was waiting for him there. 😂😂 Tesla is invented in Britain 😂😂😂 A Brit told Einstein e=mc2 😭 If you hear documentaries of this dude, you'll believe that everything from Asia to America's was invented by these dudes. In reality, these dudes couldn't even invent a hair pin. 100% of British inventions are stolen or cheap copies of Nazi Germany technologies 😂😂
@cherylferguson85612 жыл бұрын
I worked for a mercedes/jaguar/Audi dealer in the 90s. Jag had a vaden plas (my mis-spelling) trim level that had a fluted grill and deck trim that looked like the Daimler in some of the pictures
@AndyK.12 жыл бұрын
Yes. Because they couldn’t use the Daimler name in USA. They called it VDP
@alexg74172 жыл бұрын
Great video (as ever!). I had often wondered what the relationship was so it was fabulous you made this video telling the story. Full disclosure I own a '68 Daimler V8 250 :)
@BigCar22 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it Alex
@MrTakaMOSHi2 жыл бұрын
Nice job choosing a Fiero to represent Pontiac at the end. One of the few Pontiacs to not have an equivalent Chevrolet, Buick, or Oldsmobile
@BigCar22 жыл бұрын
It was random, although the Fiero is one of the most famous Pontiacs, maybe not for the best reasons!
@robertwestinghouse40982 жыл бұрын
When I was a boy we had a V8 2.5 Daimler (Mk2 Jag body. Perhaps some information about Lady Docker and the Docker Daimlers. Excellent 4.2 and 2.5 V8's the Daimler Dart and what happened to the German Engines???
@Sanpedranoazul2 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@jonnycando2 жыл бұрын
Of course I would give my eye teeth for a Daimler Double Six!
@tetchuma2 жыл бұрын
Lady Docker was an peacock personality, whose public flashiness and extravagance, put off buyers of Daimler cars in the late 1950’s
@duncandohnutt80992 жыл бұрын
You say "Dime ler" I say "Dame ler"....
@akbrahma77392 жыл бұрын
The biggest turn of events in auto industry is, in WW2, Rolls Royce built British spitfires and BMW built German MEs. The two battled the skies for dominance, half a century later, BMW came to own Rolls Royce auto division.
@TheCriminalViolin2 жыл бұрын
Daimler is also known for Trucks in the US, too. The trucks, and, the Sprinter Vans, which are then sold via Mercedes dealerships.
@paulrobinson36492 жыл бұрын
Will you add Austro-Daimler into the next program?
@Kimanox2 жыл бұрын
4:58 "The car company is now only known as Mercedes-Benz" Not quite. In some parts of the country, especially in the area around Stuttgart (Where Daimler is from) Mercedes (-cars) are often referred to as Daimlers. kzbin.info/www/bejne/mna3mKibmdJ5Y5Y Here's the (green) prime minister of Baden-Württemberg joking about his company car.
@uncinarynin2 жыл бұрын
That's the old rivalry between Baden and Württemberg, the former grand-duchy and kingdom making up today's southwest German state of Baden-Württemberg. Carl Benz came from Karlsruhe (Baden) and Gottlieb Daimler came from Stuttgart (Württemberg) so the same cars are now referred to as Benz in Baden and as Daimler in Württemberg. They are sold under the brand name Mercedes-Benz but most people will just say they drive a Mercedes (or Daimler or Benz).
@mafiousbj2 жыл бұрын
Before watching I was thinking about sone weird old colonial hangover tradition. Love you explaining these random automotive facts, could be a series in it of itself!
@martinswoboda8272 жыл бұрын
allways interesting info you upload! if i may suggest another name to explain, as an austrian i'd be happy to hear you talking about MERCEDES! hint: her last name was JELINEK!
@numjro2 жыл бұрын
ayyy theres a fiero! good video.
@japanjack622 жыл бұрын
She drives a Range Rover and an older Jag. before the Indians bought it .. Diamler is an upscale Jag.
@GaryJohnWalker12 жыл бұрын
I believe Daimler (of Coventry!) acquired Lanchester as a lower middle class brand but that went nowhere fast either. So I wonder of the Lanch name is another Tata has rights to.
@BigCar22 жыл бұрын
According to Wikipedia, JLR owns the brand, so yes. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lanchester_Motor_Company
@rome06102 жыл бұрын
To make it even worse, there was also a Austrian company called "Austro-Daimler", a subsidiary of the German "Daimler Motor company" and where the name Ferdinand Porsche can also be found... :-) en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Austro-Daimler Greetings from the city where Johann Puch merged his bicycle production with Austro-Daimler and a rifle producton in Steyr, Upper Austria, to form the "Steyr-Daimler-Puch AG" and finally got the place of birth to the Puch G, now known as Mercedes G (or G wagon)! :-) en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steyr-Daimler-Puch
@RudeCorona2 жыл бұрын
Greetings from the city where Janez Puh was born :)
@chi-82892 жыл бұрын
Lol. According to Brits, everything in the world is invented by Brits 😂. Recently i was watching a British documentary about Wright Brothers first flight, in that also they included some British names out of no where. Never heard about them😂 Wright brothers uncle's relatives wife's brother's eldest son's wife's brother was working in London as a peon and one evening he suggested about flying. That's how wright brothers got their idea. These Brits 😂. Untile 1940s when openheimer did his experiments in extreme secret, no Brit has ever heard about an atom bomb. But you watch British documentaries about atom bomb, you'll hear only British names 😂. These dudes 😂 According to the Brits and British documentaries: Paper was invented in Britain 😂 Water was first discovered in Britain 😂 Mercedes Benz was invented in Britain 😂 American Wright brothers invented aeroplane in Britain 😂 Steve Jobs invented iPhone in Britain 😂🤣 Sanskrit, Latin etc was invented in Britain 😂😂 Pyriamids were built by a Brit 😂 Great wall of China was designed by a Brit 😂 Automobile was invented by a Brit 😂😂😂🤣 Ford invented assembly line after a Brit told him secretly 😂😂😂 Colosseum, Eiffel tower etc was built by Brits 😂😂 Internet, Chinese languages, Thai etc was invented by Brits 😂😂 When Niel Armstrong reached moon, a Brit was waiting for him there. 😂😂 Tesla is invented in Britain 😂😂😂 A Brit told Einstein e=mc2 😭 If you hear documentaries of this dude, you'll believe that everything from Asia to America's was invented by these dudes. In reality, these dudes couldn't even invent a hair pin. 100% of British inventions are stolen or cheap copies of Nazi Germany technologies 😂😂
@gustavochinchilla43248 ай бұрын
The Daimler limousines of 1907-13 are so beautiful, and of course the great 420❤❤❤🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧
@NLBassist2 жыл бұрын
Very interesting story! Thanks!
@harveysmith1002 жыл бұрын
An excellent explanation.
@philhealey4492 жыл бұрын
Even if Daimler in Daimler Benz is correctly pronounced Dimeler, anything Daimler emerging from deepest Coventry is surely a Dameler? It's almost as grating as when the BBC talks about Cuventry.
@MreViewer2 жыл бұрын
Dime-ler MEH! Daim-ler thank you
@napoleonnz Жыл бұрын
I owned a 1988 Daimler branded Jaguar XJ40 for several years. It was a beautiful looking car with an interior that was stunning to look act and to sit in. It had picnic tables, tan leather upholstery and polished wood trim and everything about it was luxurious. Unfortunately it suffered from typical Jaguar reliability or lack thereof otherwise I would have kept it.
@freddieparrydrums2 жыл бұрын
Please talk about the Rover P5B and the Queen! My dad owns one
@peterfox39892 жыл бұрын
I have not heard of a Dimeler before ?
@squirehaggard47492 жыл бұрын
I've only ever heard the UK car pronounced "daymler" (including by people who drove them), rather than the German "dyemler". Or has every one of them been wrong all these years? I really enjoy your videos btw.