Why the Right and Left Hate Each Other.

[@aethelredtheready1739]

It is so weird seeing American colours on Canada and Europe, I’m just so used to labour=red

[@nutman2353]

On the map of the US, red means Republican and blue means Democrat; but it’s flipped on the map of Europe, red meaning leftist (like the Labour Party) and vice-versa for blue.

[@aethelredtheready1739]

@@nutman2353 ah, I’m not too familiar with European politics, I just saw a red England and a blue Scotland and Wales, the opposite (ignoring the snp) of what I’m used to.

[@nutman2353]

@@aethelredtheready1739 I actually think I was wrong. If you’re talking about the map in the thumbnail, then you’re right, it is kinda weird. I thought you were referring to the map at 0:21.

[@darken2417]

He should have used light blue for conservative and dark red or pink for socialist/liberal. Makes it easy for everyone to get it immediately. The Europeans can think "o labour. red", while Americans can think "o communists red".

[@warb_of_fire]

Same, here in Canada red is Liberal and blue is Conservative.

[@peterg76yt]

There seems to be a kind of left-wing thinking in contrast to a kind of right-wing thinking, but a lot of the time the labels are applied arbitrarily. A lot of people seem willing to adjust their definition of harm or purity to conform to their tribal identity.

[@yerdasellsavon9232]

If you want proof of how arbitrary the terms "left" and "right" are just ask every political subreddit which side does Joe Biden belong to. Edit: say capitalist, socialist, progressive and conservative instead

[@MasterGhostf]

@@yerdasellsavon9232 the question is right conservative and left liberal. The democrat party has conservatives, but they are democrat conservatives. Not republican conservatives.

[@jackyex]

Yes right and left are just labels that are quite illogical, the biggest example is Latin America, where "leftist" political parties are very socially conservative in a way that would make most of the rightists in the US blush, and in many "rightist" parties state sponsored economics are the norm.

[@PandorasFolly]

0:52

[@ledernierutopiste]

@@MasterGhostf The very idea that you believe that liberals are left wing is a proof that you're completely unaware of the world around you and you live in a prism of extreme manipulation. There is only one country in the world were liberals are left or even far left, and it's the united states of america !

[@ComicalRealm]

"Left wing, right wing, chicken wing, it don't make no difference to me" - Fred Flintstone

[@AnimationFanboy2k4]

And that's the truth.

[@TheGreatLiberator1209]

Politics is a dirty game of clash of clans, literally.

[@ArlindoBuriti]

Say the guy in the wall ready to die.

[@ProGremlinPlayer]

what episode did he say whthat

[@jackdias9263]

The grill pill

[@dylanbuchanan6511]

“The right and left are coalitions of different forces more than they are real central forces.” Agreed. Why would liberals who hate religion be allied with a Muslim minority while conservatives who are deficit hawks be okay with such bloated military spending? This is something I’ve realized that has not only led to me to the belief we should have rank choice voting but also many different parties across America representing different political interests. For example, someone like me who has a strong interest in protecting the environment and ending wars has little in common with liberals who get more upset at racial jokes than actual human rights abuses

[@georgemaiewski720]

Good point. I'd like to see what if alt hist do a video on why Europe has multiple parties while the US only has two.

[@dylanbuchanan6511]

@@georgemaiewski720 That’d be a very interesting topic considering that I’m generally more inclined to agree with Europe’s social policies than America’s. Never been to Europe but I’d like to go there to see how their local governments are conducted in comparison to the US’s.

[@yosephbuitrago897]

Dylan Buchanan their social policies have proven to be good like better medical social safety nets, the public housing in Austria, the reduction of car-centered urban planning, pedestrianization, and building of effective and comfortable public transport (compared to America) but their immigration policy and general culture of hating everyone outside of their own country is a yikes

[@BillyBasd]

Agreed on having little in common with those who are more concerned with racial jokes than ending wars

[@himanshukuanr7832]

Minorities are Vote Bank for the left wing political parties..

[@waynesmith7746]

I take the view that humans are inherently selfish but also inherently like doing good. For example, people pretty often are willing to give directions if you ask or are willing to ask an injured person if they are ok. But at the same time we still want our friends and family to be the best in society.

[@nimabanaie2171]

True to some degree, people naturally care for themselves and other people. Human nature when it comes to selfless/selfish is really hard to define since everyone is really a mix of both. The undeniable traits that can be considered human nature are the need for company and the use of intelligence.

[@infanos3720]

I belive that people are bad by nature and i disagree, i think most humans like doing good because it gives social "points" and that example only happen because it is easier to do good in modern society than to do bad. It is easier to say "go right then left and you are there" than just say "no i don't wanna"

[@haltdieklappe7972]

Europeans on average are the only group that want other groups to dominate them, it’s really black pilling

[@waynesmith7746]

@@infanos3720 well yeah, In pre modern society if you had an injury and didn’t have cash, often times it meant you were legit just going to die from the event. Scarcity allows people to do more. People do what’s within their power when it comes to helping. That’s not a knock against people being willing to help.

[@jhinthevirtuoso4886]

@@haltdieklappe7972 used to be the other way around...

[@ChefBrokeardee]

Time stamps: Part 1: Ethics - 2:01 Part 2: Religion - 6:16 Part 3: Economics - 13:35

[@vyktorehon5995]

You are a good man Thank you

[@betacuck3145]

You are among the 20% of saints that this video mentions. God bless you 🙌

[@LauPaSat-pl]

WhatIfAltHist please put it in the description

[@turtley4444]

Thanks

[@zaktabyte]

"you can justify the nazis" , totally wont be put out of context lmao

[@SouthSide41209]

Someone needs to make a Whatifalthist out of context compilation

[@kerms2864]

@@SouthSide41209 “a billion deaths is manageable” -based chad whatifalthist

[@daybyday3840]

Next up on whatifalthist "Six million cookies in 5 years?!?! that is a lot, I would probably say around 200 to 300 000 cookies"

[@craigstephenson7676]

@@daybyday3840 He’s not Fuentes not even close

[@jacobhoward8689]

@@daybyday3840 I mean, either you'd need larger ovens and more of them, bake cookies over full oven capacity while under-baking them as a shortcut, or another source of finished cookies to boot, probably a combination of all three. Also, where and how would you get that much baking spray? That's a lot of cookies

[@christopherlewis1315]

I heard a pretty good analogy the other day; The Left loves their government, but hates their country, while the Right hates their government, and loves their country.

[@honkhonk8009]

Pretty much nails it. Not for other countries, but for specifically American right. In ther countries, the right loves their government and love their country lmfao. I think its because Americas core value is being against big government. People that love America, hate big government.

[@big-daddy-j7879]

Well said

[@christopherlewis1315]

@@kellyharbeson18 You're more than welcome to it, as I don't own it. 😘

[@jarrellfamily1422]

I hate my government and dissapointed by my country

[@Laidengizer011]

@@kowmangbeltalowda7584 Fascism is more in line with left-wing beliefs than right-wing.

[@willis_on_youtube8975]

The perfect mix of the: Arrogance of an Italian Smug inflection of a Frenchman Cold-hearted bluntness of a German All intertwined with a plentitude of American sarcasm Keep it up buddy

[@jonsampson3030]

And the exaggerated swagger of a black teen.

[@MHammonds18]

@@jonsampson3030 😂😂😂

[@darthbigred22]

Kind of forgot the actual mother country...

[@ciaotiziocaius4899]

We Italians aren't arrogant at all! In fact we are the most humble, the most generous, the mightiest and kindest of all the people of the earth!

[@IceGleamify]

American sarcasm? Is that an actual thing? Never heard that stereotype anywhere

[@BlitzkriegOmega]

“Meet me in the middle”, says the unjust man. You take a step toward him. He takes a step back. “Meet me in the middle”, says the unjust man.

[@HistoryforThinkers]

Thankfully, anyone who disagrees with me is an unjust man.

[@enbrat5859]

@@HistoryforThinkers please tell me you’re kidding

[@NickiesBlack]

@@HistoryforThinkers Well said

[@chinesenoodles25]

i build up speed for 12 hours then launch myself towards the man, killing him instantly and leaving me lost in the void

[@NickiesBlack]

@@chinesenoodles25 Based

[@austin7205]

As a conservative let me say. We don’t have an issue with education spending. We have an issue with the government deciding how these funds are used since most schools are politically funded

[@AnticomPhysicalRemover10]

As a fellow conservative, I completely agree.

[@georgewashington938]

Another conservative view on higher education is that if the education is valuable, then it makes sense for the student to pay for the education. Furthermore, pouring money into institutions, for bureaucrats, and academics to manage and create the greatest good is not a rational plan. With both elementary and higher education, history has shown us that more money invested creates more overhead, not more education.

[@wert1897]

@@georgewashington938Ok but the cost of higher education in the USA is absurd. I'm Polish and while our universities aren't doing a lot of R&D, entirety of the learning system from preschool up to uni is completely free for nationals. The most prestigious schools in the country are in fact the public ones, since the enrollment competition is naturally higher. Good education has a profound impact on population, most people my age seem smarter and usually have multiple interests than, say americans. I think it's great when done right, not pushing any unnecessary agendas. If you want to finish computer science, you're getting CS subjects only, no gender studies.

[@georgewashington938]

@@wert1897 I agree that a "good education" is important, but not all education is good. I hope the leftists in Poland don't take over the universities and undermine your society like they have been doing in the US. Indoctrinating young people to hate western civilization doesn't seem like a good investment to me. Also, I am not sure hiding the cost of university in the tax and government system is the best way to go or leads to the best decisions. If one is selecting a valuable course of study, the tuition doesn't seen very high to me. Tuition and fees for the first two years of college on average is ~$5k per year and the final two years average around ~$9k. Compare the costs with starting salaries around $50k to $60k for valuable majors (accounting, business, economics, engineering, finance, hard sciences, computers, medical...), it seems like a decent investment. Remember, that a lot of the hype and complaints about unfair college costs come from the people that got degrees in subjects like: physcology, sociology, women's studies, race studies, LGBT studies, recreational therapy, etc. Imagine how many people would get these useless (maybe even negative value) degrees if they were subsidised even more! My advice is to be careful and suspicious whenever you hear the words 'free', or tax payer funded and government controlled.

[@cohengamertv6548]

@@georgewashington938bro, there teaching people about America’s War crimes in Vietnam, Iraq, and Afghanistan

[@wedonteatbears]

Me clicking onto a Whatifalthist video as it's uploaded has the speed of Germany conquering Denmark.

[@jurgisnekrosius9561]

Heh me too

[@liambuchan4162]

２hours is pretty fast ngl

[@briandavis1692]

Lol

[@sirsausagedog4162]

@Sidemen 🅥 Joined 4 days ago

[@sirsausagedog4162]

@Sidemen 🅥 But yes, they are cute

[@jhutt8002]

"We don't choose our politics based on rational decisions" You nailed the biggest, main problem of most modern democracies right there.

[@jaffarzaidi4684]

agreed

[@Joleyn-Joy]

It's not a problem, it's a feature.

[@luciel3910]

the point of this video is, that you cant base politics on rational decisions

[@starhalv2427]

Not only in democracy

[@vulkanofnocturne]

Democracy isn't about being right. It is about preventing violence.

[@Grymbaldknight]

I'm getting strong "Imperium of Man" vibes from your description of Right-Wing metaphysics. I don't entirely disapprove. I know that 40k is a satire, but all satire has some foundation in truth: The world is hostile and humans are imperfect; the struggle against Chaos is a constant, and civilisation is dependent on it.

[@rahadityap2375]

WH40k are closes to our reality, Where all major faction have evil and villain things No state,No country or No Ruler that have "Total Good" or "Total peaceful and goodest" Since all major imperium and faction in WH40k have same dark history but then its rank by what is the worst or most evil despite all being evil Like real life, Where almost every country in past has war,genocide,crisis, civil war,greedy leaders

[@christiandauz3742]

Um, Chaos doesn't exist in Real Life retards If it did, the Sumerians would have worship Chaos In 40k, joining Chaos is the only sensible move In Real Life, being an Atheist-Humanist is the most sensible thing to do

[@Grymbaldknight]

@@christiandauz3742 1) Nobody said that 40k is real life. 2) If it were real, joining it is a bad decision... maybe even the worst possible decision. 3) I find it amusing that you champion atheist-humanism, despite your name being "Christian".

[@rahadityap2375]

@@christiandauz3742 > In 40k, Join Chaos is the only possible move, Ah yes, probably you didnt much know about 40k universe Chaos world its more hellish or more brutal or genocidal than Imperium of Man, Despite Imperium of Man have a genocidal and hellish society, Chaos its not "Atheist" faction Chaos followers indeed are Worshipping the Chaos God But the Chaos followers are mostly ended getting genocide or living in 10 times more worse than the worst hellish or place in Imperium of Man faction, So conclusion, In 40k universe There is no Good guy or "Logical faction", All of the faction such as Tau,Chaos,Imperium of man are have same, Extremely brutal totalitarian interstellar state and genocidal maniac

[@commisaryarreck3974]

@@rahadityap2375 The imperium is what it is out of neccecity, and literal millenia of degradation and corruption. It may be questionable but as a human your best option is the imperium since quite literally EVERYTHING is out to destroy you and everything else

[@daves7809]

Reading the comments, I feel so sad that so many people missed the point of this video, and used it to cherrypick everything you said about the side they disagree with, while ignoring everything you have to say about their side. Very very sad.

[@rassular]

Which is funny because those are exactly the people the video was addressing

[@dontcallthemliberals3316]

True but (from a conservative viewpoint) that is human nature isn't it? to post-hoc rationalize just about everything? Also, don't forget Whatifalthist falls into one of the mentioned camps. He's human like the rest of us. To your point though I don't recall any flaws the conservative viewpoint or his description of it. Question is, is that my bias or the content creators?

[@christopher6547]

@@dontcallthemliberals3316 The creator's for sure. The left was described with balance. The right was described like a person is described in a fortune cookie.

[@commandergree6131]

​@@dontcallthemliberals3316 I mean that's why it is quite literally impossible to find a truly unbiased piece of information unless you quite literally programmed a robot to look for and present a "fair argument" which even then the results is likely still going to be somewhat based on the creators own ideas an opinions, meaning that likely the best way and for me personally I prefer to look at both sides of the same thing and make up my mind from there.

[@KonglomeratYT]

@@christopher6547 It sounded to me like the right was described like balanced average individuals. The left, to me, sounded like extremist thought police that vilify everything they don't like. Let's be real. He addressed both sides of the story. And we all just heard it the way we wanted to hear it. He literally described our actions to us, and idiots like you are traipsing around thinking you're above logical analysis.

[@Ditmike2235]

The great struggle in American politics: Soda v. Obamna

[@Anvil35]

Tan Suit vs Fox News

[@TomCouger]

NIGGASODA!

[@jamwither9847]

@@TomCouger a shame that that part of the meme always gets left out

[@morisco56]

Obamma prism

[@1mol831]

@@TomCouger aka Coca Cola or Pepsi cola, the original taste

[@monarchblue4280]

I literally was just binging your geopolitics videos and just as I finished you have a new upload. Good timing.

[@Gone_Fishing]

Neat

[@whowereweagain]

Me too, I guess 'alternate history' means ignorant history and 'geopolitics' means naive Anglo-American ideology.

[@monarchblue4280]

@@whowereweagain Interesting perspective. Can you elaborate?

[@flickgamehes1e591]

@@monarchblue4280 I admire your politeness, but that person’s comment was the most idiotic statement I have ever read.

[@willgriff]

Serendipity

[@superhealthkyle]

"conservatives love a strong military and interventionism" Paleoconservatives/isolationists: Am I a joke to you?

[@perverse_ince]

Yeah, he included Libertarians, but not the "Third Position" spectrum

[@tomatop6754]

@@perverse_ince shhh were not aloud to talk about the 3rd position on youtube

[@UmeNNis]

@@tomatop6754 based

[@stgermain6488]

@@tomatop6754 I’m contacting the ADL, looks like I found an extremist

[@locke03]

He's got serious gaps in his understanding of the more extreme ends of various political spectrums. His left/right analysis really only makes sense if you just assume he is talking about left of center neoliberalism driven by social justice and academics and right of center neoliberalism (or neoconservatism if you would rather) driven by business interests and mild nationalism.

[@jack-q8y8b]

I worked with hippy dippy conservationists once and during break we'd talk and I found it interesting how astonished they were when I proposed that people will usually act out of practical self interest.

[@BOG0690]

You also forgot immorally

[@larapalma3744]

They were younger than u

[@jack-q8y8b]

@@larapalma3744 no they were late millennials that were older than me by a few years, while I'm a pre 2000s zoomer.

[@BOG0690]

@FBI "Lol pre 2000s zoomer" 🤭🤭🤭

[@jack-q8y8b]

@@BOG0690 95 is the cut off and I'm 98

[@albertalu4583]

Whatifalthist: Uploads Dopamine: "Released" Depression: *Destroyed*

[@ericktellez7632]

To me its the opposite.

[@chandlerbryant6680]

sounds like cope

[@kingmosesix432]

hotel: trivago

[@abdiabdi3225]

@Simeon Roban yeah dopamine is a hormone that releases in the search of pleasure but dies when it is achieved.

[@eratm6266]

@@ericktellez7632 well yeah if whatifalthist doesn't upload then id be having a crappy mood too.

[@caes8308]

At this point “The Righteous Mind” is probably required reading for all whatifalthist viewers

[@christiandauz3742]

Whatifalthist is full of shit. Nazis are Christians and Right-winged Right-winged Nazis attempted to overthrow the government back in January!

[@HomelessCows]

​@@christiandauz3742 Neo-Nazis are not inherently Christian, a lot of them are atheist. Secondly, the people who stormed the capitol were certainly right winged extremists but relating them to Nazi's is honestly just disrespectful to the people who suffered under actual Nazi rule in the 1930's and 40's in the same way that calling every leftist a Communist/Stalinist is disrespectful to people who actually suffered under Stalin's reign of terror.

[@infanos3720]

@@christiandauz3742 Hitler and the nazis hated christianity

[@harmoncrowe1612]

So true, I read it based off his recommendation and I see him referencing it so much in his videos, I can hardly blame him though, it's probably the most profound and applicable books I've ever read

[@christiandauz3742]

@@HomelessCows Bullshit. Roy Moore, Pence and Trump are Neo-Nazi Christians The fucking Racist cops that killed MLK and Tamir Rice are Neo-Nazis! The SS Oath ILLEGALIZES Atheism. Atheists were killed in the Holocaust dumbass! If people are smart enough not to believe in Bronze Age fairy tales them they are smart enough to not follow an inbred literal motherfucking, niecefucking, niecemurdering dictator!!! Had Atheism been dominant throughout history humanity would certainly be in a better place!

[@FirstLast-vr7es]

The "America First" thing was a tad misrepresented in my opinion. Some people really are xenophobic and aggressive, but most aren't. They see all of our domestic problems getting zero attention while the government devotes countless amounts of money and resources to help other countries with theirs...and often, those countries absolutely despise us and aren't afraid to say so. They just say that we need to focus on OUR problems, not out of malice, but out of genuine concern.

[@linuxman7777]

Both the Economic left and Far right definitely agree on this point, it is the Centrist Neo-Cons and Neolibs that don't

[@orangesilver8]

But then the America First people don't want to spend money on our own country either.

[@lmcguiness5476]

@@linuxman7777 I'm a centrist. And being neo liberal isn't bad. Being both a right winger and left winger is bad

[@ronmaximilian6953]

@@linuxman7777 you forgot Business centrists and libertarians

[@Great_Olaf5]

He was mentioning separate groups within the coalitions, not the coalitions collectively.

[@soffren]

"I just invested in a gay sex club" is the best synopsis of Libertarianism I've ever seen

[@manwhoismissingtwotoenails4811]

Same

[@Hownotto523]

As a Libertarian I would say " Why does the Government have the power to make this choice for us?"

[@cmortenson3647]

@@Hownotto523 so you're pro choice I hope?

[@JasonTaylor-po5xc]

Yeap, they don't have to support or agree with it - only identify an opportunity and jump in before someone else does.

[@Ed_man_talking9]

I'm trying to be a centrist, but with Black Lives Matter raids, the sexist modern feminism mindset, etc., I find myself with one foot on the red, who is far from perfect, and I have several disagreements with too.

[@PremierCCGuyMMXVI]

Another part of the equation: lots of people have political ideas from all spectrums and aren’t centrist. Man politics are confusing

[@nimabanaie2171]

I consider my politics confusing every now and then

[@perverse_ince]

Third Position gang

[@R3GARnator]

The 2 party system is artificially created by First Past The Post laws. Watch the danish tv show Borgen. That shows what politics naturally looks like: A dozen different factions, forming deals and coalitions as the need arises.

[@Gwildor2020]

@@perverse_ince NatSoc is the only political view that will save the West and White people in general.

[@Gwildor2020]

Centrists are losers who are afraid to take a stand on anything. Whoever wins the war for the West, centrists will definitely be one of the first groups to get the rope.

[@lmv1888]

"When tyranny becomes law, rebellion becomes duty" - Thomas Jefferson

[@ramnsesallen4375]

I may have missed something but how does this relate to the vid? (Genuinely curious)

[@lmv1888]

@@ramnsesallen4375 it doesn't, thought that was clear enough...

[@B_Cleric_Time]

Fuck Thomas Jefferson

[@oligarchies]

I wonder if he'd be okay with his slaves murdering him then

[@B_Cleric_Time]

@@oligarchies yeahh hell yeah soup sister

[@brianh9358]

The main problem I have with this type of map is that at the 50 percent mark an area gets thrown into one category or another. In reality the map should be a bunch of shades of purple. None of these areas are so purely one or the other.

[@jatelitherius9842]

You’d be surprised. Some places are really 80% one way or the othet

[@kaixiang5390]

@@jatelitherius9842 like where? Prettymuch every state in the US is liberal in the city and conservative in the rural areas

[@jatelitherius9842]

@@kaixiang5390 thats what i mean though

[@nyalan8385]

@@kaixiang5390 that's literally a perfect example

[@novaace2474]

I mean were I live in central pa I'd give you 50 bucks If you could find a democrat on my street.

[@DavidRosenfield]

The interesting thing to me about the left/right dichotomy in the United States, is that the US is and always has been a radically liberal country (except for the South). So the Left and Right both express their positions within the philosophy and language of liberalism, especially when critiquing the other side. The Right claims that the Left is intellectually inflexible and dogmatic. Freedom of thought and expression is a core liberal value, and they're right to point out when the Left overly polices language and labels certain ideas as taboo. They see academia as having an elitist attitude when hierarchy and social stratification is the antithesis of liberalism. And, of course, there's the whole issue of gun control. The Left claims that the Right often stands in the way of civil rights, voting rights, immigration, and privacy, and supports more intrusive law enforcement. And that the Right have their own intellectual inflexibility, their own dogma, and their own taboos. And an elitism and social stratification of their own. The Left would point out the Rightist dogma that our military is the great protector of American liberty is so sacred that they question the national loyalty of anyone who speaks against it. Ironically, the founding fathers stated explicitly and repeatedly that a large, professional, standing military is a huge threat to liberty and a democratic society. And then there's the Right's opposition to sexual freedom and many forms of artistic expression they object to on moral grounds. It seems to me that the Left would view the struggle of minority groups against systemic oppression as a core liberal value. The Right would counter that this worldview ultimately divides people against one another and represents the seeds of Leftist authoritarianism. The Right also sees low taxes, economic freedom, and religious expression in public spaces to be core liberal values. The Left would counter that this belief economic freedom only applies the privileged and limits the economic freedom and mobility of the underprivileged. When I say that the United States is a fundamentally liberal nation, people look at me funny. But this is what I mean.

[@jasonreed7522]

And to expand look at the justifications for the following 2 hot topics: Gun control proponents are claiming that they are fundamentally trying to save lives. (By preventing mass murder) Abortion opponents are claiming that they are fundamentally trying to save lives. (By assuring that unborn babies get born and aren't murdered un the womb) Based solely on the justification of these ideas you would assume that pro gun control and anti-abortion would be the stance of 1 party (trying to save lives) and the other party would hold the opposite view, but instead these 2 stances hate the other's party. And in a class about energy policy i learned if a distinction between 2 types if freedoms, postive freedom and negative freedom. Positive is all about the ability to do what you want (like go to college, ir move to another state or country), negative freedom is all about not being restricted (freedom from X, so freedom from oppression). And fundamentally most stances between left and right are over which kind if freedom is more important. (You can also frame most of our amendments with either type of freedom. For instance is the freedom of religion about not being oppressed over your religion or about being able to practice any religion you want, its clearly both) So yes, we are fundamentally a libral nation but we argue about what kind of libral we are.

[@John3.36]

You mean Neoclassical Liberalism not Radical Marxism.

[@bobfrank7339]

This is the stupidest debate the right is literally billionaire backed the most popular media is right wing and then their constituents argue that the left compromised of grass root organizations and Twitter heads is some how in some kinda of control of government. It makes 0 sense

[@m.c.martin]

The United States has always been ideologically Conservative. Pointing out Liberalism as in Republic Principles is just the basics.

[@m.c.martin]

You also seem to have a botched understanding of what the Left claims about the Right, versus what the Right actually does. The Right doesn’t oppose voting rights, or immigration, or even civil rights. Those are mostly unfounded claims by the left.

[@stormhawk31]

"The reason that the fight between the Left and the Right is so contentious is that, at heart, it's a religious war..." EXACTLY. ONE HUNDRED PERCENT CORRECT. You could have ended the video right there. That one statement hits the nail dead on the head.

[@ForbiddenFollyFollower]

Seems like ideology is just a form of religion and religion is inescapable.

[@MeanBeanComedy]

@@ForbiddenFollyFollower Exactly. The New Atheists were cringe AND wrong!

[@michaela2634]

Leftists are just filling the void in their Godless hearts because man needs religion.

[@MeanBeanComedy]

@@whimsiquisitive 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻☦️✝️☦️✝️☦️

[@CantoniaCustoms]

And the American right conflates the constitution with God, even though if just looking from a religious lens you're supposed to help *everyone* Granted, the government has its own obligations to its own people and thus it holds duty to ensure the wellbeing of its own citizens before helping migrants, but that's kind of a cope.

[@rShakeford]

As Morbo from Futurama so eloquently put it: “when will humans learn that all humans are equally inferior to Morbo?!”

[@jnb756]

Homer Simpson stated "people are stupid - that's why they do everything they do" So perfect in it's simplicity.

[@plebulus]

It's morbo time

[@constitutionaldennis]

“China is trying to take over Asia” Understatement of the year if you ask me.

[@marinuswillett6147]

Actually, it's fairly accurate. Most of the areas where China is seeking total control are in Asia. They want to be a major influence in other areas, but the farther you get away from Asoa, the harder it gets for China to project power

[@fandomguy8025]

@@marinuswillett6147 Yeah, as an understatement they mean that China is even more extreme than what that sentence entails.

[@constitutionaldennis]

@@marinuswillett6147 While I agree with that on paper, I've seen them take control of entire 'departamentos' (the equivalent to a county) in Southern Patagonia and militarize the area to prevent anyone from getting in. Also I've heard they're doing the same shit in Mexico and parts of Africa. If we let them, China will be the new colonial power.

[@marinuswillett6147]

@@constitutionaldennis I wasn't aware of that. Where did you get this information? I'm curious. It sounds plausible, but I'd need more evidence

[@constitutionaldennis]

@@marinuswillett6147 Sure, you can check out the 'Condor Cliff-La Barrancosa dam', which is only 3 hours away from my town. People here call it Argenchina haha. A very large perimeter surrounding it is militarized, which is convenient since my province has the least population density in the country, so it's not like many people would notice.

[@kyx-001]

it feels so weird having the left wing represented as blue in Europe

[@Kolateak_]

0:27 I love how Bosnia & Herzegovina is literally 100% regional And Poland just 100% rightist

[@MilanElan]

And they should keep it that way

[@starmaker75]

most of the major cities in poland disagree. also western and northern poland disagree.

[@infanos3720]

@David Arauz east Germany is right Af because of the soviet puppet state.

[@haltdieklappe7972]

Poland is right wing with the exception of a few western regions, warsaw and Poznan

[@LauPaSat-pl]

@@starmaker75 As a Pole I disagree. Big cities are left leaning for our standards, but still right leaning when compared to other Western countries

[@zeriel9148]

The main issue with stereotypes about the right and left is that many people alternate which side they're on throughout their lives. I think what really seems to happen is that when one side (or even non-left-right faction) gets too much social power, their over-reaching leads to purity spirals and drives people in their own faction away, and in general leads to social strife. You can see how quickly this can turn around using an example like the US--the social hysteria even as recently as the 90s was from the right, but now we've been living through a social hysteria of authoritarianism driven by the left for at least a decade.

[@incognitotorpedo42]

Sorta. The authoritarian Social Justice crowd has driven me away from the Democrats, but the fascist lunatics drive me away from the Right. I'm party-less, but in terms of voting, the lesser evil is almost always a Dem.

[@Marquinhos1901]

yes i was born in 1996 and i remember how the Right were the ones getting worked up over nearly everything lol.

[@andrewmedley]

try Canada we go thru lot of this is ol ''this is good/bad idea and no this is /it is not'' by lots of the parties

[@w_6880]

As people mature, they begin to realize that a bloated military is unneeded, but demanding society change to the whims of 2% of the population is unnecessary as well.

[@travelinman790]

You're right about that, I used to vote republican, but after years of talking to Republicans they literally scared me out of the party. Such a hateful tribe, I don't want to be associated with anything they do. It's only gotten worse since Trump became president. They claim to be the party of the "free", but support things like banning abortion, which means they are just hypocrites. Not a big fan of the true left either. I say that cause people think liberal is left on the political spectrum

[@urphakeandgey6308]

"Ethnic minorities who tend to be socially conservative, but don't want to be culturally dominated by the ethnic majority." That's straight truth. My experience as a minority too has been very socially conservative, but when it comes to politics everyone suddenly swings left and I think it's just because of that, whether they want to own up to it or not.

[@briangarcia7384]

It makes sense though

[@Marquinhos1901]

yeah latinos/muslisms etc fall into this category in the Modern USA

[@Aliksander54]

So social and economic disintegration are chosen over assimilation and prosperity. Please stop trying to convince me that the ethno-nats are right.

[@jalicea1650]

I'm Latino and that's very true for us. Puerto Ricans are very socially conservative on social issues, but are very left of center on economics. If Democrats were smarter they'd drop the LGBT inspired, "Latinx" verbiage and focus purely on economics then Latinos would overwhelmingly vote Democratic even more-so.

[@jasonwriggs]

@@jalicea1650 Why? Shouldn't progressive white democrats continue to tell all other ethnic groups what they are allowed to call themselves? (African-American, first world nations, Latinx... etc...) The democrats still own them if conservative minorities vote for democrats. They already control what you are allowed to think anyway.

[@BladeEdge86]

One of the main reasons why they hate each other so much is because the size and scope of government is far too big. The bigger the government the bigger the stakes if one "side" wins or loses and the bigger the stake the more upset the loser will get. The government is far larger and more intrusive than the constitution ever intended and it is all too rarely questioned. People have become so accustomed to larger ever more intrusive government that people almost never consider actually shrinking government to any meaningful degree. Republicans often talk a good game about cutting the size and scope of government, but most of them engage in the same irresponsible spending that the democrats do.

[@OriginalBongoliath]

"Republicans often talk a good game about cutting the size and scope of government, but most of them engage in the same irresponsible spending that the democrats do." Because they are called RINO's aka Republican In Name Only. They advocate for Democrat policies while wearing a Republican costume. Real conservatives hate them.

[@EdHealey88]

@BladeEdge86 Excellent points!

[@notperfect101]

On the contrary I'd argue instead that the power of private companies has grown too big, so much that government nowadays merely acts as executive of these powerful interests. That's why even if governments change politics don't change that much. Democracy is being sold as government by the people however in reality it's not the people that decide policies, it's representatives that owe a lot of favors to or are pressured extremely by the private sector.

[@KellAnderson]

The conservative position on education isn't that its useless, its that the government is the worst custodian of education due to the lack of any incentive to do it properly.

[@user-it2kq4ty9q]

everything in you learn in grade school above 7th grade is pretty useless the school system needs to be completely remade

[@CptTexas1]

Modern schools were literally designed by people who wanted everyone to shut up and listen to the government so that the prols wouldn't get uppity. Don't confuse past education with modern indoctrination.

[@MrDVG-fe9ms]

Parents are a big voting Block, whose interests are among other things high quality education for their children.

[@savagepeace]

@A Z Hope your comment gets deleted again buddy

[@MrDVG-fe9ms]

@A Z Reading? Writing? Basic Maths/ Grammar? We don't need those in a society

[@GordonTaylorThomas]

as someone who has checked out of all forms of politics and even really reading the news over the past few years, you are the only person making any sense

[@kylejamessmithproductions7848]

Nah a lot of what he said was very reductionist

[@bigbadlara5304]

@@kylejamessmithproductions7848 could you explain why? I thought this video was really good.

[@kylejamessmithproductions7848]

@@bigbadlara5304 It's extremely America centric. Most of the terms he uses such as the SJW being considered "far left" and conservatives being in favour of interventionism. In reality a lot of the groups he talks about fall under liberalism, even the sjw, because they will still support capitalism and businesses. Whereas the far left across the world typically, wants the abolition of capitalism and to instate socialism / communism instead.

[@eightyfiv32]

@@kylejamessmithproductions7848 welp I thought SJW was far left as well. Hmmm (just realizing that liberal is such a broad term that its kind of hard to understand what you mean)

[@kylejamessmithproductions7848]

@@eightyfiv32 Yeah no, in a sense it is far left, but only through the lens of American politics. Worldwide its at most progressive, but usually somewhere around the centre, which is where liberalism falls under.

[@AnimationFanboy2k4]

Russia, China and Switzerland: Eating popcorn

[@ArlindoBuriti]

Russia... dictatorship China... dictatorship Switzerland good country they are conservative for a european country so...

[@peterroberts4415]

They better be careful. Wars against external threats are often used to unite people

[@AverageAlien]

China isn't eating popcorn, it's plotting

[@geto6242]

Russia: Corrupt China: Perpetually falling apart Switzerland: Eating popcorn

[@G1ennbeckismyher0]

@@geto6242 yes

[@digitalnomaddev7577]

I usually hate ads but ground news is actually pretty awesome, thanks for promoting services that actually have value

[@eliascommentonly4652]

🇬🇷🇪🇺✝️1982. Athens greece europe Leftists is against family Leftism make woman a witch ...... Leftism support abortiin Leftism support strong IRS strong party Right support shop owner and hardwork And Low taxes 🇬🇷🇬🇷👑👑👑👑👑✝️✝️✝️✝️👋🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏

[@craftthemoon]

*reads title* Oh boy, this comment section is going to be fun...

[@greytroll1632]

🍿🍿🍿

[@xp7575]

Long story short we hate the Right because we hate fascism and we love freedom while the Right hates freedom and loves fascism, it's as simple as that ✊

[@michaela2634]

@@xp7575 Equating the entire right with fascism is completely irrational. Besides, the modern left is the antithesis of pro-freedom.

[@vortigan9068]

@@xp7575 Bruh what a clown

[@imperators_8700]

Woooosh, X P is clearly trolling lol

[@ca0320]

Never felt the need to comment on a KZbin vid before but your content is so underrated. One of the last videos you did “why are we so unhappy” was so on point, I watched it back to back and then circled back later to give it another rewatch and learned something different each time. Keep up the Amazing work!

[@willgriff]

#facts

[@mayastic9570]

I'm sorry but I'm not impressed by this video atm. There's a lot off explaining happening here but very few sources, and the sources that where used are often absolute garbage. You could call it a theory if your generous but there's hardly any facts to back them up at this point.

[@JV-km9xk]

@@mayastic9570 Have you watched the jollyheretic? That guy may bring some of the things you are looking for though I forgot which videos he cites and discusses that which you seek.

[@markdin2988]

@@mayastic9570 I bet you’re mad he cited Thomas sowell

[@TheKulu42]

I'd say one problem is that the word "compromise" has been dropped by both the Left and the Right. More and more, both sides think in terms of absolutes. The other side is wrong about everything and evil, too.

[@bloodshotred6334]

When both sides are retarded, do we really need to compromise stupid with more stupid?

[@rockin1014]

Only a sith deals in absolutes

[@TheKulu42]

@@bloodshotred6334 Basically, both sides have allowed the extremists to take over.

[@enbrat5859]

@@TheKulu42 not necessarily true, dumb people are louder. “Trump supporter helps liberal grandma across the street” doesn’t really make the news, but “Trump supporter shoots liberal grandma” does. It doesn’t matter the motive, party, etc. the person who committed murder is wrong, and today, with social media, it gives more access for the loud and stupid to let everyone else hear them.

[@TheKulu42]

@@enbrat5859 Basically, the big channels like Fox and CNN are more interested in ratings than just saying what's happening. And the way they get ratings is telling their audiences what they want to hear.

[@cringe7391]

I feel like defining all politics as a spectrum just doesn't work at a level where you're trying to find the core of political opinions. There is no single "left and right" Spectrum where everyone fits neatly. Trying to fix this with just adding more spectrums like the political compass also doesn't work because there's just too many different stances people can have on different issues, I could probably undermine every single political spectrum quiz if I tried, just like most people probably could. Left and right only works as a simple view of common trends different political groups naturally share at the context and time of their period, but can't be used for actually examining the core of politics (I would also argue that people's political opinions are purely circumstantial and depends on variables like what the current society is like).

[@neveklund3267]

That is why I have favored a multi-dimensional political activation model instead of a single dimensional linear one going way back to the middle 70's when I studies the social sciences. The spectrum model lacks adequate nuance and becomes misleading when people come to see one "side" or the other as being more or less totally and intellectually right and morally right, or at least, almost right. The term "right," is not being used as it would be in the spectrum model.

[@Thought_Criminal]

Jreg 100 slider political model

[@gaymoder]

this is the most american-centric video ive seen of yours, like holy tories.

[@Jack-oj7dq]

facts

[@michaela2634]

He's American and the majority of his audience is American.

[@yerdasellsavon9232]

The base assumption of what left and right make no sense beyond the American suburban middle class, as in left=SJW and right=trumptard

[@IvorMektin1701]

@@Name-dv4qu Your oil is bought with the dollar and your username is American pop culture. Insidious ain't it?

[@1lobster]

Torries bad. Labor bad. Lib dems bad. Queen good. Simple as.

[@G0TIMAN]

Left and right differ greatly in Europe and the US, so speaking of "west" here is typical American-centrism.

[@AlwaysHustling]

stfu lmao

[@michaela2634]

Europeans eternally whining. Go watch his other videos and learn how fucked your comfy asses are.

[@G0TIMAN]

American "left" in Poland is more like a center. I bet some americans would describe our rightwing rulling party as socialist xD

[@michaela2634]

@@G0TIMAN Your right wing is nationalist. People here would call them far right (which is ridiculous).

[@G0TIMAN]

​@@michaela2634 I would describe them as conservative and etatist. Polish nationalist usually are more against capitalism.

[@ehhe4381]

Gridlock is EXACTLY what the Founding Fathers designed into the system so that changes have to arrive by large consensus. They thought this slowness in creating changes (checks and balances) avoids tyranny. So if we have gridlock, the system IS working.

[@bmonty1915]

Exactly. Without said built in gridlock the U.S. would be thrown about back and forth violently and ultimately fail.

[@jaydenshepard7928]

No, because it depends on both sides being able to actually listen to each other to SOME degree and compromise. Right now neither side is doing either of those things. Checks and balances is NOT equal to fucking gridlock, change being gradual and stable is not the same as completely stagnate and ineffective.

[@TRololololololo23]

@@jaydenshepard7928 Well the Senate has passed the big bipartisan infrastructure bill so I guess some compromise is possible even today.

[@jaydenshepard7928]

@@TRololololololo23 Infrastructure isnt something that had to be compromised on, everyone loves infrastructure. Its possibly the least controversial thing a politician can vote in favor of. It creates jobs and makes voters happy. Its the most meta thing a government can do when in doubt.

[@aussiegod4269]

Pretty much. It forces consensus

[@Bacon_Is_Medicine]

"Once you remove the idea of heaven, envy in society becomes impossible to control."

[@achinthmurali5207]

Press x for doubt

[@eax2010EA]

It's a shame that people value tribalism over healthy comunication.

[@TheGreatLiberator1209]

Indeed. A sad reality where barbaric tribalism supersedes rational thinking.

[@claudiaxander]

Damn you communicators! ;)

[@Terrapin47-s8y]

I think our species is more emotionally driven than we would like to admit.

[@xp7575]

Long story short we hate the Right because we hate fascism and we love freedom while the Right hates freedom and loves fascism, it's as simple as that ✊

[@goroakechi6126]

@@Terrapin47-s8y The last four years have proven that in spades.

[@njb1126]

Another fascination lecture. Have you thought about making a video detailing why today’s modern western youth romanticizes misery?

[@GOF-pk9mg]

He touched upon that in the last video beasicaly its becuase everyone unhappy and theres no huge war, or country they are proud of, or religion they follow that would give them hope aswell as then just being generally poor

[@MrHellknightimp]

Damn that's a good question

[@jimmyjohnson8233]

Nathan. it's coz the future for the middle class blows and everyone knows it.

[@dariabusek3566]

>>why today’s modern western youth romanticizes misery?

[@thenomad47]

@@dariabusek3566 No, it's because we know everything is about to be an absolute shit show within the next 10 to 20 years, so, we're bracing ourselves to enjoy the shit show as best we can.

[@internetexplorer3317]

First time I've seen a sponsorship that actually interests me. I'm actually gonna pause this video to get ground news. Edit: best features aren't free, but still useful even for free.

[@Great_Olaf5]

Free users do have a limit on how many versions of the article we can look at. Found that out the hard way.

[@zachmorris9723]

​@@Great_Olaf5 you can get past that paywall with one of the cheaper paid plans (that I have) is only 99 cents per month, which is extremely reasonable. Before using Ground I probably spent a few hours a month cross-referencing different sources when reading the news, so it's worth it for me.

[@MANA-YOOD-SUSHAI-1]

“To realize that we live in an absurd culture where we are taught absurd things by absurd people and threatened with absurd consequences for defying all of it is to achieve a level of contentment.” Michael Malice

[@the11382]

What absurd consequences?

[@whippinsaw]

Ya I'm interested too

[@SimpleReally]

@@the11382 getting cancelled on twitter

[@ademdogukankon4726]

@@SimpleReally Or getting shunned from your community if you live in a right wing leaning community.

[@Commander034]

@@the11382 15 years for a plant

[@tratstcm5940]

There is a deep rationality underpinning many ancient moral laws, even if they seem irrational. Great video though, keep up the good work!

[@chuckhoyle1211]

Religion is thousands of generations of your ancestors speaking to you from the past. They may, or may not, have understood why those religious teachings worked in creating a stable and successful society, but they had a very simple metric of measuring success. The people who followed the teachings and tenets lived while those who did not died. The ancient world was a brutal place and your margin for error was pretty slim. Today, in the West, we have it pretty good and our margin for error is very wide so we do things like throw our traditions into the dumpster willy nilly without really thinking about the long-term consequences. Look where we are heading...

[@موسى_7]

لا إلاه إلا الله محمد رسول الله علي ولي الله

[@jasonreed7522]

@Buck Rothschild im not sure in the exact phrasing of this saying but we learn to out think our hearts. Also not all children are good at the moral good/evil thing but for the most part they are good at saying if any given action is ok and providing a reason why.

[@brosef4154]

If there is a question about the rationality, one must ask, "what is rational?"

[@upsidedown1972]

No. If it's "deep" it isn't rational. Think about the word rational in Popper's definition. Rational vs empirical.

[@JacF6734]

"There are three things all wise men fear: the sea in storm, a night with no moon, and the anger of a united Left and Right."

[@thenomad47]

You know you fucked up BADLY when you've united a country's left and right

[@matthewbrandt5053]

I really hope we can work together. My fear is we won't, that neither left nor right will fight climate change effectivly or combat the spread of china.

[@mayastic9570]

@@matthewbrandt5053 there's not much spread of China to combat, they kinda did that themselfs. You can look at polymatter's video's It's a 4 video set off China's downfall as a potential world superpower. It's mostly the right blocking climate change action all over the planet so neither wanting to fight climate change is very much wrong.

[@thenomad47]

@@matthewbrandt5053 The problem is, we're looking at it the wrong way. The fight isn't "left vs right", it's "Authoritarian vs Freedom", I'm literally as "far left" as one can get (Anarcho-Communist), and I'd happily stand by a right wing freedom loving libertarian (the "far-right") who believes in freedom and capitalism. Why? Because both of our points come from our love of Freedom, we just have different viewpoints on how to use and express that freedom. Especially if it's against factors like China and Climate Change

[@lordzallen]

@@thenomad47 that is the observation of a multi axis system. as someone who is centrist to libleft, i would much rather have libright in charge than authleft.

[@PandorasFolly]

You forgot a major backer of the left wing in the US.....Train Enthusiasts.

[@Kaddywompous]

I don’t know. My dad has a whole room dedicated to his model train universe and he voted for Biden.

[@kitkat47chrysalis95]

i dont get it

[@PandorasFolly]

@@kitkat47chrysalis95 in the united states the right wing and private business have made a concerted effort to kill public transportation since the 1930s. People who are just big fans of trains and want more trains must back the left and democrats to get those things. Two fun things. 1. Try and plan a trip by train from LA to NYC 2. The plot of roger rabbit really happened. Los Angeles used to have a massive public rail system and the automobile manufacturers bought them up and dismantled them.

[@john_smith_john]

"major"

[@scipioafricanus5871]

@@john_smith_john lol

[@sandrawolff1786]

Both myself and my husband (retired Professor!) absolutely love what you're presenting here, but we both felt that you presented it Way.Too.Fast.! We both had a hard time following your finer points, and would love to see this presentation with some time to ruminate over what you have said. Yes, I would have told you this anyway, but my husband (retired Professor of Electrical Engineering Technology, no less; he's picky about that distinction,) asked me to weigh in about the 'too fast' aspect specifically! We will have to watch this several times, which is inconvenient, given our schedules. - But Thank You for producing this! It does make sense. We would just like to see that sense with some ability to digest it! =)

[@ChiefUmejesi]

As a non-native English speaker I completely agree, but would also remind you that you can use the KZbin's feature to slow down the playback speed.

[@TorMax9]

Human envy and greed and paranoia and corruption and emotions and propaganda and group-think and manipulation and intolerance and self-pity and blaming and rationalisation and stupidity and idées fixes and stubbornness and creativity and ambitions and enterprise and team work and conscientiousness and loyalty and competence and grit and determination and enthusiasm and inspiration and grace and idealism and dreams and compassion and spirituality, etc., etc., etc., does not work like electrical engineering technology, alas, they have fuzzy and infinitely extended boundaries, difficult if not impossible to model in a scientific or engineering way. They all overlap, mingle, synchronise dynamically over time and circumstances. It's a messy business. It's a wonderful business. It's the human condition, what got us from the primaeval slime to writing witty comments over the internet. Too fast? It was an enjoyable ride the first time. I don't need to see it a second time. Cheers!

[@dewildlifts]

You can just the run the video at a lower speed

[@Robin-db8oh]

I find that having to watch something several times to try to unpack and understand all the points made is a mark of good content. It helps me to take notes on any little detail once I've identified what its really all about and then move on to the next one with a clear mind. I use a Zettelkasten system for that, more specifically an app called Obsidian which I am a huge fan of. I will certainly be doing that for this video and others from his channel, since I find the content to be most valuable.

[@Cordon3]

I pause the video or go back 15 seconds

[@wdragon92190]

I have been traditionally left leaning. I dont agree that humanity can be perfected but i do believe self improvement is both possible and should always be striven for. I find myself leaning right not because i fundamentally disagree with my world view, but the fact that i can disagree with them and have an actual productive discussion. On the left even so much as questioning the wrong person can put me physically at risk, let alone the social ramifications for things like employment and such. I find people as a whole to be relatively reasonable so long as those who seek power at all costs are kept in check. The right is more willing to question individuals like that. The left is unwilling to tolerate the slightest whiff of dissent for an individual who hits the right check boxes. Its kinda insane.

[@johnnynick3621]

It sounds like you have come a long way. Perhaps you should go a little further. Libertarianism and Objectivism actually adheres to the best parts of both worlds, and there is even less dogma.

[@outbackgearforu]

Which by the way is exactly how the nazis behaved to ordinary Germans in the 1930s ,shout downs and intimidation,who now are the REALEST fascists

[@choiyatlam2552]

You are describing something like the Cultural Revolution in China in the 1960s. The modern left in US in my opinion is a milder version of that. It is milder because that one got hundreds of millions killed, many of them fled to HK (where I live in). Worse, precious culture artifacts and wisdom from ancient China were destroyed by youth in order to bring upon the communist utopia.

[@mxplk]

​@@johnnynick3621Can you give one or two SHORT references (article length, other than Wikipedia) that clearly describe these philosophies?

[@mdfalse]

I feel this could've been done with less pigeonholing and explained better by discussing the left and right's sub groups and how they interact. Because the "ideal" leftist or righty doesn't exist so purely and if they do they're are a total minority of their group. This is a very complex subject that requires more than it was given here @Whatifalthist

[@Flash4ML]

Seems like you’re pidgeonholing the “ideal leftist/righty” into “a total minority in their group.” 🙃 Not to get stuck on that though, of course it’s a complex subject, and of course you could talk a lot more about it. Some people spend their entire lives talking about this for a living for heavens sake. However, keep in mind that firstly, this is KZbin, you’re not going to get a full encompassing video on this topic because there’s not enough time to explore every facet of this topic in a video, and secondly, you’re not going to 100% agree on anything anyways, so accept the fact that what you hear is someone else’s opinion and add it to your collection of other people’s opinions, because calling people wrong isn’t going to get you anywhere; there would be too many “wrong” opinions lol. You can debate certain issues of course, but don’t go saying this is inadequate and you oversimplified it, etc

[@mdfalse]

@@Flash4ML I never said he was wrong - just felt the subgroups of the left and right could have added some more to the topic and maybe given more insight. You seem to making a lot of conclusions about me and approaching this with a holier than thou as you reply to a 6 upvoted comment meant to help the creator expand the topic; not attack him. Holier than thou evidence "keep in mind that firstly, this is KZbin..." and "secondly, you're not going to 100% agree..." a bit preachy is all. Maybe tone it back and realize I was trying to interact with his opinions not attack him like you did to me.

[@sc6520]

@@Flash4ML when your chosen topic is why two halves of an entire country (or many) “hate each other”, You should be delivering exactly that, dont make excuses for him; although this is a great KZbin channel. He got the right’s view of abortion super wrong and basically called everyone on the left an sjw who’s sole purpose is to get affirmative actioned into positions of power. No discussion of the average liberal who already has a career and means to vouch for the disenfranchised lol.

[@ForbiddenFollyFollower]

​@@sc6520 The average "liberal" confuses their desire to help disadvantaged people with their desire to hold something over them by being their benefactor. They are like dogs confusing their impulse to chase a ball with their instinct to hunt and kill small animals.

[@jimmyjimmy1601]

@@ForbiddenFollyFollower Astute and aptly put.

[@pattobyo]

The way you very casually speak about libertarians and acknowledge their existence is mind blowing. There needs to be more people talking about politics in this kind of way.

[@TehFlush]

Lolbergs are cringe

[@KarlSnarks]

But Americans aren't yet ready to acknowledge the original definition of Libertarianism, Libertarian socialism. Only in the 20th century did the word get coopted by the right.

[@TehFlush]

@@KarlSnarks they're literally polar opposites, einstein

[@nothingofinterest8048]

@@TehFlush Actually Libertarianism was originated as a staunchly left wing ideology, if you read the communist manifesto you would know that Marx talked about libertarianism a lot and how he was pro libertarian socialism. The right wing literally bragged about stealing the ideology name from them.

[@nothingofinterest8048]

@@TehFlush plus nothing in socialism contradicts libertarian values, Vaush is a good example of a libertarian socialist, he believes that anyone should have the right to do what they want as long as it doesn’t infringe on someone else. But at the same time he talks about how not all freedom is good, an analogy he often uses is “if you strand someone in a lawless desert are they truly free?” Which is why he supports being able to have the liberty to have free healthcare and to live without massive student debt. So no they are not in anyway polar opposites.

[@yohanahramen6756]

You got abortion SO wrong, it’s honestly amazing, especially considering what you said about the right’s belief in individualism and the soul. Right wingers do not see abortion as a woman shirking her main societal roll, although that is certainly a factor, but rather as simple murder due to their belief that every person has a soul, and logically conclude that soul is present within a fetus.

[@Lapantouflemagic0]

i think the soul thing is probably more important, but isn't there also some worry of seeing women reject what they consider being a woman ? ie having children and taking care of a family, to prioritize "men"s endeavors such as carrers and such.

[@ablebodied175]

Yeah I thought his abortion points weren't right. Especially his left wing one.

[@yohanahramen6756]

@@Lapantouflemagic0, yea 100% there is, I mean that’s a core part of the traditional values they have, but it’s not the most important reason why the right is so anti-abortion.

[@vyktorehon5995]

@@Lapantouflemagic0 I am right wing and I agree with the first ie regarding why I dislike abortion. (i also agree with other reasons)

[@xaviercopeland2789]

@@Lapantouflemagic0 yeah, but that’ll change more in the other direction given women are mor an unhappy than ever before and are even more in the workplace and school than men.

[@GrinningNimbus]

People against abortion aren't against abortion because it disrupts traditional norms. They're against it because they believe it to be murder which is inherantly wrong. No one ever seems to address that without just saying it's not murder and nothing more. One of my biggest peeves about that debate. And I'm personally for legalized abortion. It's probably just ignored because it's a hard conversation and inconveniant for those for it which is the kind of conversation most worth having.

[@dairebulson7122]

The "Right" and "Left" is so different and varied in different countries that it's hard to draw any sort of overarching trend

[@bradastra6111]

yah true, im portuguese and the so called "right" its just a socialist party..

[@veggiesupreme3556]

Yes exactly the UK conservatives are by most measures more left wing than the US democrats

[@apreviousseagle836]

You guys missed the point. If your "right wing party" in your country is really a leftist party, your country does not have a right wing party. Your leftists won.

[@veggiesupreme3556]

@@apreviousseagle836 good I’m glad they did as we now have a party that supports socialised healthcare yet still has good economic sense

[@apreviousseagle836]

@@veggiesupreme3556 Yes, I like waiting a year for a basic surgery and 9 hours in ER wondering if I'm going to die in the lobby before I get to see a doctor. And for that I LOOOOVE the 50% tax (I live in Canada, ask me how I know all this shit)

[@darthbigred22]

This is pretty much what a lot of us have come to see as well. Good on you for realizing Nazism was Darwinian in nature and you are correct about the origins of western liberalism. I think whether you start with Jan Hus or Martin Luther it's obvious that the various other revolutions all spring from there.

[@sirrathersplendid4825]

I was surprised by that Darwinian thing. But I suppose ‘master race’ implies that they considered themselves the highest form of life. But, did they think they were ‘evolving’ towards something better? Hmmm...

[@cypress2647]

Read up on actual theory yourself, dont believe that leaders or organizations are following these theories just because they say they are. It is very often just used as a justification even if the ideology itself doesnt promote this kind of thing. Darwins theories could never reasonably be used to promote any of that kind of behaviour. Darwins theories are descriptive, not prescriptive. That is to say, it is a description of what is, not a prescription of what should be. And even if it was, that wouldnt mean that genocide would be justified, and it also wouldnt mean that the aryans were the superior race either. In other words: Dont believe nazis were darwinist or christians because they said they were. This applies to modern times as well. Dont believe china is communist because they say they are. Dont believe tyrants, they lie to get what they want. It should be an obvious point.

[@warrenpuckett4203]

This has been around longer than Chicken Little and the sky is falling. There always is somebody making money out of it and ends up living in a palace. The difference between the the Marxists and Nazis is pretty much the same crooked path taken to the same destination. In reality the Roman Empire is still here. Still there in the middle of Rome Anybody that thinks children are naturally selfless, has not paid attention to a two year old. Most will do whatever it takes until it is time to say"Can't we all just get along." My DNA is 99.999% the same as the 1000 generations preceding me.

[@danielimmortuos666]

I'm a libertarian, but the way you're describing right wingers makes me feel I'd be considered a conservative in the US

[@IvorMektin1701]

Libertarians generally are conservative except most reject military and church.

[@cefalopodo5717]

If you believe in the political compass, you'll see that it's not a one dimensional line but rather it has multiple axes: left wing vs right wing, authoritarian vs libertarian, and some versions include progressive vs conservative. The point is, i don't think libertarianism is inherently conservative or progressive; you can be either.

[@ronmaximilian6953]

Look up Fusion Conservatism in the US

[@runningcommentary2125]

Most Americans aren't conservatives or leftists. They're social liberals or libertarians. The country was founded on Liberalism.

[@ronmaximilian6953]

@@runningcommentary2125 The liberalism this country was founded on has nothing to do with modern liberalism which is basically progressivism. And no, most people are not libertarians. If they were, we'd be spending a hell of a lot less money in this country

[@johnkirstein333]

Unbelievably good video. I kept having to pause and relisten to soak it all in. Thank you. Way I see it is that everyone has their own ideals (values) and blind spots, and we need everyone talking to each other so that pragmatic decisions can be made for both the individual and collective good. Another way of looking at is that there are collectivists and individualists. An extreme on either side ends up suppressing both collective and individual values. Strong balance between individual and collective values leads to strength for both groups of values. In modern politics it seems that the Left is increasingly focused on only the social issues, and bring forward solutions that on paper seem like it would solve the problem, but in the longterm would only make it worse - example, homelessness in Pacific NW cities. The Right tends to ignore that the social problems exist and would rather do nothing. If the Left were left to their own devices, they would constantly try to solve one social problem after another, but continually failing since every new social policy tends to come with unintended negative consequences which are often worse than the original problem they were trying to solve. Similarly, if the Right were left to their own devices, they would never change anything for fear of disrupting what they know works. This why we need both and why democracy works so well. We need the Left to point the social issues the society is facing, and we need the right to point out the flaws in their proposed solutions and help them come up with pragmatic solutions that will actually solve the problem without causing a whole chain of other unintended negative side effects.

[@Justmonika6969]

Well yeah that is ideally how our system is supposed to work. Unfortunately, that is not what happened. What actually happened was that one side (the left in this case) claimed a superior moral high ground at some point after several social victories. Now it doesn't care about or listen to the right and its opinions. Everyone else is just evil. This is the issue with a side completely based on moralistic thinking, there is no rational checks and balances. It isn't remotely moderate anymore. Just look at the left even 10 years ago and compare to now. And just to note: I'm not shitting entirely on the left here for unbalancing our system. The right played a role, specifically in giving the left plentiful ammunition originally.

[@mattbrown5511]

Can't discuss anything with people that can't even define what a woman is. I'm libertarian just so you know. We need a lot less government in our lives.

[@quinn1606]

do you hvae any crack for me

[@forickgrimaldus8301]

"Forget the promise of understanding for In the grim dark of the Far future there is only war, there is no peace amongst the stars only an eternity of carnage and slaughter and the laughter of thirsting gods" -Warhammer 40k When everyone hates each other than nothing would change only the sounds of the grinding wheels of time and decay.

[@ForbiddenFollyFollower]

There is only Allah.

[@forickgrimaldus8301]

@@ForbiddenFollyFollower technically there are Islamic based Armies in 40K such as the Macarbian Janissaries and the Tallarn Desert Raiders.

[@BOG0690]

Human being love to fight.

[@xShadowChrisx]

@@ForbiddenFollyFollower where? In the garbage bin with the other made up hebrew folk tales?

[@user-fc7kj2hv3w]

On abortion I don't think you're right that it's because women are shirking their duty. I'm pretty sure they just see the fetus as being an alive human being and thus abortion is a legal version of infanticide

[@hohenzollern6025]

It's a combination of both. He has a very superficial understanding of it all himself.

[@sophiawilson8696]

Why there abortions at all? Prevention is the key.

[@alexanderfretheim5720]

Yes and to be honest, I don't think the left actually disagrees with them on that. I think they PRETEND to disagree with them on that because they don't want to talk about it and if they deny that the fetus is a human life they create an impenetrable rhetorical quagmire. If you want an HONEST answer to why the Left sees things the way they do on abortion, watch "The Cider House Rules" (1999). The left is okay with murdering the fetus because they see the world as overpopulated and believe that morality is subjective, so if the woman doesn't love her own child, her child is not worthy of love or protection, because the women is the only one who knows her unborn child and therefore the only one who can love it. Basically, the left believes 1) we need fewer people, and 2) women should decide which of their children are worthy of living.

[@kaiser4883]

@@alexanderfretheim5720 is interesting that the left talks about reducing the amount of children born when we actually need more, since the fertility rates of developed populations is going down that means whe have a extremely old population that anchors the society because they are unable to produce and there isn't enouf able working people to pay for things like pensions roads or Healthcare

[@dontcallthemliberals3316]

Tough one, I can be pretty damn conservative on a lot of issues. He described my view pretty damn accurately on abortion. It gets murky though because admitting it makes you a social pariah in most circles so I couldn't tenably make the argument without becoming a meme. You are spitting on the graves of your ancestors in a legit Darwinian rationale. The best argument you can tenably make is that its watered down eugenics, however I'm cool with aborting disabled fetus so I'd be a hypocrite to use it. To Alexander's point I have a lefty brother who admits its undeniably murder 'but that doesn't mean I'm judging or think it should be outlawed' I used to use that one until I got called out by my boss like "bullshit, you are ALWAYS making a judgement or you wouldn't bother arguing about it at all" that hit me hard.

[@GaladorLP]

I feel that you are being quite America centric with lots of your standpoints. As an European quite some deatils differ from how you make them out to be. And that counts for the right and the left. For example the focus on college educated leadership is much more an US phenomenom as in Europe. While there is a trend towards that in Europe, theres still a huge spirit of emacipation of the simple worker in europe. Especially social democracy and laborunions emphasize that. A prime example would be France. In the US it is quite new in comparison. While Europe the workers movement was indeed lead by educated people, it was driven by the workers. In the US it is much mire recently and picked up by young well educated people and more spread amongst them. Also the church and military play a way less major role in Europe and the position on a strong state is inherently different. Take Germany, where the conservatives are the major party to drive forward video and digital surveillance, while its the left, having strong positions against it.

[@foxman2137]

I watched another upload that was the same. It seems when Americans are even discussing global politics they can only see what is America, never mind that some of their radical left-wingers are the norm in most European countries. Never mind that some European countries and the occasional African country have had coalition governments for years with all parties having an input.Obviously this can not happen in the USA so it doesn't exist.

[@agustinalcalde1053]

Agreed! Left wing in the US is very far from Left wing worldwide, which usually is not even democratic, and has no place for minorities nor women.

[@monkeyboy600]

@@foxman2137 The focus was obviously on the United States, whats wrong with that?

[@foxman2137]

@@monkeyboy600 The focus maybe on the US as you say but the "left/right" is a global thing and applying the same grand brushstrokes with only the limited experiences of the US adds nothing to the discourse. There are many examples of the stunted political spectrum in the US. Many of the left-wing ideals that only now the US is starting to explore have been discussed and implemented in many countries throughout the world.

[@GaladorLP]

@@agustinalcalde1053 well depends. Europe is very much dominated by social democracy on the left. Which isn't even ultimately anti capitalistic but wants strong rules for it.

[@jontalbot1]

I describe myself as a social democrat rather than socialist or liberal. My complaint is the left has stopped thinking seriously about the things that really matter to people- income, housing, health, crime etc. The right simply thinks the answer to everything is the free market

[@senarmstrongfanaccount]

that is imo the problem with lots of modern leftists and social democrats as well. they focus too much on niche issues that lots of people don't care or know about instead on looking at issues that resonate with lots of people like economy crime and healthcare which makes them seem very out of touch

[@jasper5902]

Keep in mind the moral foundations is still just a theory for now and are not very rigorous yet. But it does provide some insight that we need

[@CHURCHISAWESUM]

It's almost a tautological system, but pointing it out reminds people of the obvious which is needed in such a rootless society. Its test of time will be how much people stretch and misrepresent the definitions of the 6 in order to win petty arguments undeservedly and protect their egos. As we know the human capacity to do that is infinite.

[@Drekromancer]

@@CHURCHISAWESUMWell said, king.

[@NotOneOfUs]

Before starting this video: "This is just going to be 'A Conflict of Visions', isn't it?" 10 minutes in: "Huh, surprised he hasn't even mentioned the book." 10 minutes and 8 seconds in: "Ah, there we go."

[@markdin2988]

Is it worth reading? The reviews seem good. It’s an analysis of Adam smith and godwins clashing ideologies

[@Kaddywompous]

My vision is constrained AND unconstrained depending on the issue at hand.

[@Kaddywompous]

@Simeon Roban Huh? The world is a consistent thing except when it’s not a consistent thing. Mankind is evil, weak, greedy, and irrational except when it is good, powerful, generous and rational. The world is a dangerous place in need of restraint except when it’s a friendly place to be welcomed and explored. It’s this AND that, not this OR that. Perhaps there would be less black and white, ideologically tribalist thinking if more people realized this. Just a thought.

[@plkvideossemvideos5780]

You need to make a video called "what we really need to worry about" listing the true problems we need to adress, think about and discuss.

[@bevbevan6189]

Awesome idea. There's so much to worry about, but we should worry efficiently.

[@marcbotnope1728]

@@bevbevan6189 Your focus on efficiency is white supremacy! (leftist logic)

[@thenomad47]

@@marcbotnope1728 *Authoritarian Leftist Logic. You get 2 sides to both the Left and right. You Got Libertarian Left, and Authoritarian left, and then there's their right wing counterparts as well. The problem is, that there's a Cold war going on Between China and the US, much like the one Between the US and USSR, and the only one realising it, is China, that's the real problem

[@haltdieklappe7972]

I’m left leaning economically but right wing on almost all social issues, where the hell do I fit in this

[@mongke7858]

@@haltdieklappe7972 So a nazi? jk

[@hoi-polloi1863]

I'd say the hatred comes from several irreconcilable differences. In the US, Liberals tend to believe: 1 Society can and should be actively engineered 2 The government should be strong (to facilitate #1) 3 Western civilization due to its historical behaviors is bad and should be replaced 4 Due to #3, mass immigration should be sponsored Conservatives tend to believe: 1 Society should evolve organically, and above all slowly 2 The government should be weak 3 Western civilization is a good thing and should be maintained 4 Due to #3, immigration should be limited to rates which allow successful assimilation of immigrants These are pretty core differences, and hard to reconcile.

[@PremierCCGuyMMXVI]

Sucks how divided, not just America, but our species in General is. Sadly political divisions is one reason why I think humanity will go far.

[@Somebrero]

I love your profile picture, that’s the same one I had on my email for a while

[@forickgrimaldus8301]

Humanity has always been dividing and unifying, just look at China, Europe ect.

[@gymlandia4467]

I’m so over seeing your comments.

[@Comrieion]

Disliked for implying Florida sinking is a bad thing

[@josephsaafan7838]

It is a bad thing millions of people live there

[@mikhailf356]

I admittedly didn’t watch the whole video cause I was lost at “loyalty: self explanatory.” There’s a big difference between loyalty to an individual or group of one’s friends rather than ideals or values. He gets a lot right in his videos, but it’s impossible not to have a lot of errors with big sweeping historical claims. The one about the West’s affinity for liberty starting in the Middle Ages was also puzzling.

[@whitehorsemilitia]

I assume the concept of Liberty in the Middle Ages comes from the Kingdom of England, the Magna Carta was written in the 11th Century which laid down some of the earliest forms of Liberties we used to enjoy prior to 2020. England was the Grandaddy of Liberty all thanks to the Magna Carta.

[@sedzimirpiast1666]

It’s self-referential, if you watch his videos in the order of release date, the more it’ll make sense. It’s like reading Jung’s works.

[@snare5903]

@@whitehorsemilitia Also the results of the plague which led to liberty in Europe and conservatism in the rest of Eurasia,

[@utvara1]

Loyalty as in mafia like loyalty. You do exactly what you say and kill/die for your group.

[@scipioafricanus5871]

@@whitehorsemilitia Also the medieval free cities was an important part of this development of parlaments.

[@ingold1470]

12:05 - This becomes more true the further back you go in the right-wing tradition. Joseph de Maistre (the French version of Burke) was a fatalist who viewed the horrors of the French Revolution as God punishing France for its sins, and considered religion to be so essential to holding society together that even one which practiced human sacrifice was preferable to none at all. 11:36 - I see someone likes to play as Empire

[@opinion4755]

The European map is so inaccurate it is almost random.

[@FelipeJaquez]

That's just Europe in general

[@fraktaalimuoto]

This channel has a habit of not really understanding Europe, IMHO.

[@opinion4755]

The map is off, but some of the ideas were interesting. The simplicity and love for USA is adorable.

[@Tengu125]

And the statement that Sweden doesn't have corruption made me stop for a second, because I didn't know if I was about to chuckle or let out a huge sigh. Our Social Democrats have used alliances and loopholes to remain in power pretty much unimpeded for decades. They constantly shirk their duties, embezzle tax money and do the typical socialist thing; if all is well, it's thanks to the party, if things are collapsing, it's everyone's collective responsibility.

[@jorgejustin461]

@@Tengu125 Sweden isn't corrupt COMPARED to the rest of the world. Like in Australia we where good on that map but our Federal Government is corrupt as fuck. No where near the levels of Saudi Arabia or Egypt because it's a matter of perspective.

[@Commander034]

>a perfect society needs both the right and the left No. Singapore and Israel are both examples of successful nations with no left. It is better that people with different ideologies not share countries than to have needless fighting and animosity between people.

[@inominado1774]

"Conservatives" on Anglo-saxon countries, are "Liberal-Conservatives"

[@cazwalt9013]

@Humanity Galatica exactly as a devout catholic I don't like capitalism but since the only alternative we have is communism I stick with it

[@cazwalt9013]

Anglo-Saxon more like Norman French

[@twilightknight2333]

@@cazwalt9013 ironic, considering that communism/socialism are economically more friendly towards socially conservative/traditional people in the long run than to liberal/libertarian types who are hyper individualistic. Just look at China, North Korea, or Cuba, all communist governments with very strong socially conservative society. You don't see gay pride marches in those countries.

[@graye2799]

This is why I say classical liberalism is a umbrella that encompasses the current right and left of the country.

[@tomtomtom6970]

@@cazwalt9013 Communism is not the only alternative to capitalism. European countries have implemented socialist elements and a more regulated capitalism and its a healthy middle ground IMO

[@oldtop4682]

Well done! This sums it up perfectly. Most Americans still fall in the center (slightly right), but our political class can't seem to figure it out. Further, we are now so divided that any compromise (which is kind of the definition of what politicians are supposed to do) is seem in a negative light. I've been on the Earth long enough to see BOTH parties do really stupid things whenever they have full control. The founders were wise - we have a House that can turn over every 2 years to quell the really stupid stuff. And, we have a Senate that is designed to delay/stop the stupid that can happen from the House. What worries me though is the increased power given to the Executive. It started during WWII when budget execution went to the POTUS, and more and more power has risen to that level since then. That's a problem.

[@vladimirgunnar7015]

The upload rate is great. Hope this continues. I like the new consept.

[@huwinner2428]

My coworkers and I talk about politics from time to time. I lean to the left and they lean to the right. I’ve been thinking about why it feels like we don’t see eye to eye, and I think you perfectly capture the difference between our world views.

[@dontcallthemliberals3316]

So you think your co-workers are fundamentally evil people?

[@jalicea1650]

@@dontcallthemliberals3316 nah most leftists don't believe conservative individuals are truly evil just their ideology is and depending on how committed they are to it. Depends on their compass leaning towards good or evil. For example, if they justify racism, bigotry, systemic abuse by the rich and powerful, greed, hatred and so on. That's where lines are drawn. Like if they can justify denying someone their rights just because they are different to them. Like women's rights on abortion. Gay rights. Minority rights. Religious minorities etc.

[@Intel-i7-9700k]

​@@jalicea1650 Calling someone's political beliefs "evil" is just laughable, I mean that's text book extreme left/ring wing.

[@jalicea1650]

@@Intel-i7-9700k again if you believe that you can dictate what another person can do with their body. If you believe that women shouldn’t have the right to choose what they can do with their body. If you believe that gays shouldn’t marry, or that whites are superior to blacks and that you have a right to deny someone their liberties to vote, have representation and equal rights. Then you are evil. Sorry buddy if you disagree then you’re not a good person in my book.

[@useodyseeorbitchute9450]

@@jalicea1650 In other words as long they are not evil by default, but if they don't implement all teachings of the cult (uhm... left-wing) they are evil. Gotcha. Had lefties actually believed in minority rights, they would be against burning those districts recently in the US. Had they believed in women rights, they would be freaking out about Muslims. No, they do not believe at all. For high ranks is pure psychopathic power play, for low ranks is feeling good about themselves and following social pressure to whatever is trendy.

[@Easy-Eight]

Parents put a lot of time and energy into their children. It breaks their heart to see their children corrupted by an uncaring education system. If you lose your children, what's the point? If you have people teach alien values and recruit children to their lifestyle then what's the point? There needs to be a new education system option for parents. Homeschooling is B.S. but public schools are unacceptable at this point.

[@jaushuagrahamthefloridaman1124]

Seriously tho

[@michaela2634]

Homeschooling is great if mom is able to stay home.

[@evanscarbrough9711]

Elaborate please.

[@Easy-Eight]

@@evanscarbrough9711 are you married and have children?

[@theyoungbonaparte3739]

I'd agree to an extent, I think we lost the meaning of education and have brought out rubish virtues that don't promote growth nor life, but instead a dogma of collectivism and a hierarchy of good and bad that fades the instant they leave the educational areas

[@BankC6969]

I don’t know if I agree or disagree with your perspective, but this video was excellent! This actually makes people think independently. Thank you.

[@chrisaustin9949]

"A man sees what he wants to see and disregards the rest" - Paul Simon (of Simon and Garfunkel) from The Boxer

[@frigginjerk]

Isn't it "hears" rather than "sees"? Either way, one of my favorite lyrics.

[@benjaminclark566]

why did you just post a comment without words, Chris?

[@Kaimenhoi]

”We should do more listening and less talking." Bow to that.

[@christiandauz3742]

Republikkkans don't listen. That is why Alabama and Mississippi are shitholes stuck in the 1930s

[@100percentSNAFU]

For the most part, the right values individualism and the left values collectivism. I would say the exception to this is organized religion, which by its nature is collectivist, and is embraced much more by the right. The left tends to embrace more individual spiritualist views if they are religious at all. But this of course comes back to a purist view by the right. But overall, this is why we see the majority of rural dwellers being politically to the right and urban dwellers to the left. Again, by the nature of their lifestyles, most rural people must depend on their own efforts, like in farming, while urban people must rely more others in the collective to keep things running smoothly in an urban setting. Just my thoughts, I am actually a libertarian and don't really consider myself right or left...maybe slightly to the right.

[@forbin1185]

Quite an astute observation. Ima single issue voter…. Lemme keep my guns and don’t fuck with me! That’s why I don’t vote!

[@KT-om1il]

It is a Generalized observation and yes I agree.

[@christiandauz3742]

Libertarian means delusional today Gal Gultch being one horrific reality

[@jean-louispech4921]

then Islamism, fascism, and nazism are about individualism? Left wing ideas are bout individualism and universalism. This is the core of the French Republican Revolution, and next of historic socialism, including Marx and Engels. This is were come the fight against sexism, racism, bigotry, dictatorship of capitalists, etc.... You have to remember that the more pure left wing society is a kind of socialist anarchism, like was the communist ideal for Marx ( nothing related to what Europeans and Asians eastern regimes call communism ) . Right wing ideas are about authoritarianism and particularism, and it is more true for the far right. The left wing versus right wing antagonism was defined by the French Revolution.

[@iamthinking2252_]

If I may be a contrarian though, I thought rural people were more likely to know their nearest neighbours than the average suburbanite. And in a small town, everybody knows secrets about one another, whereas in a city nobody gives a damn and you can generally swing any which way you want. Rural communities, as far as I see it, can have strong, collectivist traditions and urban communities quite individual and atomised/isolated

[@katiez688]

When people talk about income inequality they aren’t saying everyone should make the same. The concern is wages have stayed stagnant since the 1970s and not kept pace with increased cost of living. This is eviscerating the U.S. middle class and they have increasingly slipped into being closer to “working poor” than what we think of as middle class. Most people don’t really want a lot of expensive stuff. They want decent housing, reliable utilities, transportation, healthcare, and a general ability to pay for these and other basic necessities as long as they work a full-time job. The elites in this country have been squeezing the American middle class for decades and it makes their lives severely stressful and precarious.

[@dougshell2543]

Thanks Prof! Can't argue at all - thank you for the maps and infographics. These videos are a great resource in my personal studies.

[@bluewatson4341]

As a left winger turned right wing by ultra lefty toxicity, I can assure you that both sides equally think the other is insane.

[@MrExtraordinaire16]

I was always a right wing guy so glad to have you,although I do agree with global warming.

[@DGollp]

The problem is that politicians in the US profit from painting the other side as the literal devil. Since there is only one other choice, rather than making a compelling argument that your own side works better for the good of the country, they just smear the other side and act in insane, divisive ways. You can't win like that if you're running against 5 other parties and have to build a coalition to form a government. I advise Americans to support the push for ranked choice voting.

[@2.5chainz]

@@MrExtraordinaire16 I feel like the left and right ultimately agree on the same topics but disagree on ways to achieve them.

[@LC-pr5or]

As a fellow left winged turned right wing ultra lefty toxicity in 2016, I think he was right in saying that the right thinks the left is naive and dumb, and increasingly more insane, the left actually hates the right religiously

[@Adsper2000]

@@LC-pr5or Eh, I’m not sure about that, given that some on the right think that Biden is a communist who drinks the blood of aborted fetuses.

[@MaxwellAerialPhotography]

That thumbnail is going to confuse the shit out of Canadian and International viewers, it basically every western country except the US the colour of conservative and right/centre-right wing parties is blue, and the colour of progressive/socialist/left wing parties is red.

[@rexblade504]

I think after a few seconds they would realize after seeing the map of the US, and realizing what the color means

[@sonofgreatsteppes9497]

Well, thanks for telling. I just know realised this

[@frocco7125]

I'm sorry, but I strongly disagree with the assuption that "the left" inherently beliefs that humans are naturally generous or altruistic, and that human nature is moldable. Maybe some weird hippie people think that, but it's far from being the standard. There are many "left wing" beliefs that are built on the assumption that humans *are* naturally greedy, and our society should be built around that. Many forms of socialism for instance assume that humans are naturally greedy, not just under capitalism. And those seek to build a society with strongly reduced class diffrences, one in which the economic interests of the individual align with those of the community. You help your community, you help yourself, and vice versa. Many socialists will argue that the best social system is one that still works if everyone is an absolute POS. That capitalism sucks speciffically because it turns human greed, which will always exist, into something negative. Karl Marx, the big boy of socialism and communism, he didn't believe humans were these naturally good creatures, no. He believed that his vision of communism was a desirable goal speciffically because humans were naturally self serving. His whole belief in the class war was also built off that. That throughout human history diffrent social classes have always been in a struggle for selfish wealth and power. He believed this materialistic greed was a fundamental part of humanity and a driving force of social conflict throughout history. If you want a more current day example, Noam Chomsky, a left wing/ anarchist leaning professor and linguist, even pointed out how dangerous it is to assume that humans are blank slates, as it is a belief that could benefit authoritarian states and allow them to propagandize the youth. So no, some pretty prominent left wing voices disagree with the ideas of human blank slates or altruism. That's not a belief that's inherent to the left. You might just as well argue that this is a conservative/right wing belief, since the economic right will constantly argue for abolishing welfare and replacing it with voluntary charity, because "people are naturally generous". Making the poor dependent on the altruism of the rich.

[@sluggo206]

He's talking about the entire left-of-center universe in many different countries and decades, and the commonalities between them and how their beliefs historically emerged. The left is not just the far left fringe; it's everybody left of a liberal-conservative midpoint. The US midpoint is further to the right than in other Western countries or past eras, so that makes it more difficult. But still, it's the entire left vs the entire right, and he's correct about the origins and motivations of these two coalition worldviews. Thee are also issues that have fallen into one camp or the other for no apparent reason, like vax/anti-vax and mask/anti-mask. These are just aberrations, and I believe that if one or two leaders had just said something slightly different, they wouldn't have fallen where they did or become polarized. So we can ignore those unless they become established for decades.

[@wanderingthewastes6159]

That's literally the entire philosophical argument conservatives/libertarians make FOR capitalism, just switch the words arounds and change the complementary ideas and you got yourself a conservative comment.

[@wanderingthewastes6159]

Mike Orr no, America is more libertarian than the rest of the world, not right wing. Socially speaking they are miles ahead of pretty much everyone in Asia/Africa/The Middle East, and generally of Latin America and Eastern Europe. To see so many *Western* Europeans proclaim America is so far right when it's actually quite the opposite (Western civilization is the most leftist civilization ever) is quite laughable.

[@frocco7125]

@David Tredwell Excusez-moi? Conservatives want to defend and expand the police and state authority every time there's a controversy, want to use the state to lock down and restrict sexual minorities, and want the state and politicians to be free of responsibilities to uplift people without privilege. That is all pro-state. Maybe this is hard to see from an inside the country perspective, but in the US conservatives are literally the most authoritarian voting block. Sorry if that sounds harsh.

[@frocco7125]

@@wanderingthewastes6159 Well, I do feel like there's a subset of libertarians that could get along with lefties, that have the same values at heart and just express them diffrently. The Charlie Kirk vs Vaush debate made me think that.

[@sirzorg5728]

Several years ago I found your alt history cool entertainment. With this new direction you are rapidly becoming one of my favorite youtubers. Although the fact that the data points so convincingly to "we are gonna fall so hard it will make rome blush" is terrifying.

[@makupaku91]

This videos makes me feel like nothing matters, and everything matters at the same time..

[@Cbd_7ohm]

That is how all politic videos seem.

[@jameswilkerson4412]

I think that’s called “being blackpilled”

[@mosterchife6045]

13:25 Actually, from what I’ve seen from my right-wing and Christian family, and as a Christian myself, we view abortion as morally wrong because it’s basically killing a living soul, and as you had mentioned earlier, Christianity teaches the value of human life due to each of us having a soul. For me at least (I can’t wholly speak for my relatives as they are more right-wing than me), gender roles don’t factor into the equation here.

[@fett716]

They do, though they aren't nearly as significant as the killing part. Conservative stances on marriage, sex, and motherhood become a lot more relevant when issues like contraception come up.

[@mayastic9570]

A baby is technically a parasite and a mother should have the right to not be leeched from for 9 months if she doesn't want that. lot's off people hate that argument but it seems very valid to me I just wonder if you've ever heard it before ? where would you draw the line off a soul forming ? because current abortion laws set the formation of the central nervous system as the line where abortion becomes illegal. Since those bodyparts are responsible for anything you could reasonably call a soul, that seems like a fine cutoff point. Ofcourse when there's complication the life off the mother should always take precedent over the baby as well even if it's late into the pregnancy. Current laws seem very middle ground to me honestly and still there's so much fighting about it.

[@fett716]

@@mayastic9570 "A baby is technically a parasite" Holy crap, this is your brain on modernity. A baby is a blessing and a bearer of the image of God. Using this logic, you could argue that any dependent in our society is just a worthless parasite. "Where would you draw the line off a soul forming?" Conception. That is when a unique human life emerges and the flesh is ensouled. The central nervous system is just a vehicle for complex thinking, it isn't a soul.

[@mosterchife6045]

@@mayastic9570 I’m not sure when exactly the soul forms, because just now I did a little research and I found out the one bit of evidence that I had for the soul being formed at conception was proved to be untrue, and the formation of the central nervous system as the point where the soul is made seems like a decent bet. However, even still, I’m not totally sure on that, and the fact that that evidence was disproved doesn’t necessarily mean it’s not formed at conception, so I’ll have to do some thinking and research on that until I come to a conclusion. Although, if the birth of a child has been proved that it will kill a mother when born, with no way to fix it, I think it’s up to the mother to decide what she wishes to do. The thing I do take issue with is your first sentence. I believe when the soul is formed and the baby can be born without killing the mother, and does not have any defects that will cause it to die at birth, the baby should not be aborted under any circumstance, as that would be murdering another person. From an atheistic standpoint, that sort of makes sense, but as a religious person, the Bible says in many passages not to kill another person.

[@mosterchife6045]

@@fett716 Thanks for explaining. I wouldn’t necessarily be surprised if my relatives did hold such views.

[@arturoandrino7071]

I believe this is the route the channel ought to take, more macro sociology/economics and geopolitics through your lens of historical analysis rather than althist. As always great vid!

[@yanbarbosa8092]

What i find amazing abou this channel is the fact that i cannot deny the quality of the arguments and intelligence in the though process even when i strongly disagree with the conclusions.

[@alexanderfretheim5720]

It is intelligent, although it is not lacking in logical fallacies. Not all bad, but take it with a grain of salt.

[@ShonaMcCarthy]

I've never met anyone who opposed abortion simply because they wanted to keep women in traditional roles. Everyone I've met who opposed abortion did so because they believed it is murder, that women are being pressured into having abortions when they don't really want them, and that the idea that abortion is necessary is purely down to societal factors which encourage women to see the role of motherhood as humiliating rather than affirming. I've never met anyone who literally said, "Let's make abortion illegal so we can keep women down!!!"

[@Ja_ck00]

Of course noone would say that because that sounds bad. That's why they say something else instead but the intention is still clearly to oppress women. If these people really wanted women to embrace and welcome motherhood or something they would give these women more support with becoming a mother. Conservatives on a policy basis stop caring at all once the child is born. They don't campaign for legally mandated paternal leave. For affordable childcare. Etc etc. The only conclusion that can be drawn from this is that raising children is at best a secondary objective. Maybe I've got the wrong end of the stick but I am yet to hear a good response to this argument.

[@ShonaMcCarthy]

@@Ja_ck00 there was a time onlu decades ago where some men had no problem saying women weren't allowed to do certain things simply because they were women. If it's what they think they'll say it and ibless they've said it, any other interpretation is a case of putting words into their mouths and, therefore, misrepresenting their position. But I agree. While there are many charitable organizations that help disadvantaged families and single mothers, governments could take a more direct approach in better helping such people.

[@ShonaMcCarthy]

@@Ja_ck00 I find it especially suspicious that no one in favour of abortion is able to admit that those who oppose it do so because they think it could be murder. Could it be because no one in favour of abortion can afford to consider the possibility for even a moment?

[@Ja_ck00]

@@ShonaMcCarthy It has been considered thoroughly. Consider this thought experiment. You are in a building that is on fire. You only have time to take one thing with you. You're in a room with a jar filled with viable embryos and a young child. How many viable embryos have to be in the jar before you take it over the child?

[@ShonaMcCarthy]

​@@Ja_ck00 The subject of my original comment was that (at least in my experience) the majority of people who oppose abortion do so because they think it's probably murder. Creating practically impossible hypotheticals, accusing them of being sexist and accusing them of not caring about what happens to children after they're born actually has nothing to do with whether or not these people consider an embryo to be human. It's interesting to me that you seem to be compulsively changing the subject. Almost as though you (still) can't consider the possibility that people who disagree with you *might* not be completely evil or stupid.

[@heresyhunter4100]

Ground News has been a super helpful tool, thank you for mentioning it in your videos

[@mayastic9570]

I'm a bit scared, in the sponsorship part he showed it listed news like the washington post and MSNBC as left off center wich is just wrong. They are both right off center. and if that's the middle line we are working with it's going to push people to the right a lot.

[@CptTexas1]

@@mayastic9570 You ever consider if your personal overton window or the one you adopted from your society is just farther left than you thought?

[@mayastic9570]

@@CptTexas1 Nope, my personel politics aside. I'm talking more a global average. WP and msnbc just lean slightly right off center, It's a result off their ownership and funding. US politics has a horribly right shifted overton window compared to any other place on this planet.

[@borzydar1196]

For rightwingers abortion isn't about women but about children...

[@alexwithadashofsalt]

Children than aren’t even real yet