Why The Schrodinger Equation Fails at Relativity

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Andrew Dotson

Andrew Dotson

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@AndrewDotsonvideos
@AndrewDotsonvideos 5 жыл бұрын
A correct submission has been made!
@K24_ej1
@K24_ej1 5 жыл бұрын
Andrew Dotson How long did it take you to get to this point in your understanding of physics? My question comes from the fact that I am 27, but only recently decided to change directions in life to push towards my true passion of majoring in physics and seeing where it takes me. Anyways, just curious man. Thanks in advance.
@possiblepilotdeviation5791
@possiblepilotdeviation5791 5 жыл бұрын
@@K24_ej1 Romans, I can't speak for Andrew, obviously, but I can briefly tell you my experience. I decided to make a career change when I was 28. I was in a dead end job with no prospects, so I decided to start working on a Physics degree at my local University as a part time student (2 classes per semester). Bear in mind that I already had a degree (art related), so I did not need to take my General Education classes again, just the math and science courses. I kind of had to reshape my entire life. I needed to keep a full time job to pay the bills, so I applied for and finally found a full-time clerical position at the school I was attending. I was able to get a tuition discount from the school since I was an employee, use my lunch break for classes, etc. That was about 4 years ago. I'm almost 32 now. I graduate this coming May. I have a bunch of applications out right now to graduate schools to hopefully start my PhD work in the Fall. If you are dedicated, persistent, and perhaps a bit obsessive compulsive than anyone can learn the material. It's the whole "4 years of your life" thing that will stop most people. It's been a major undertaking, but worth every second for me, especially since I can finally see the light at the end of the tunnel. The material he is covering here is, truth be told, not overly complex. It's certainly not beginner material, but it's not the most complicated either. Good luck with whatever you decide.
@K24_ej1
@K24_ej1 5 жыл бұрын
Lyle Arnett, Jr Thank you for the reply Lyle. That definitely gives me a boost in confidence since we seem to be (were) living in the same boat. Dead end job. GE our of the way in college etc. I’ll take note of the things you said. I do appreciate it. 🙏🏻 thanks so much.
@mikasaackermann8736
@mikasaackermann8736 5 жыл бұрын
Lyle Arnett, Jr What kind of art did you study, and why did it lead you to a dead end job? Asking 5 a friend
@carlosvargas2907
@carlosvargas2907 5 жыл бұрын
@@K24_ej1 You'll do well, man. Go on!
@jibran8410
@jibran8410 5 жыл бұрын
Lvl 1 crook : Schrodinger Lvl 100 Boss : Dirac *THAT'S HOW QUANTUM MECHANICS WORKS*
@arroyhondo
@arroyhondo 5 жыл бұрын
Mike Warrecker that’s how mafia works
@wotchadave
@wotchadave 5 жыл бұрын
What does that make Feynman?
@ffggddss
@ffggddss 5 жыл бұрын
C'mon now, Schrödinger still did a very useful thing there! Just as we don't need even Special Relativity to do a lot of physics, we can still do a lot of QM with Schrödinger's Equation. It gives us quantized energy levels for confined particles, hydrogen wave functions, quantum tunneling, etc., etc. Fred
@jibran8410
@jibran8410 5 жыл бұрын
@@ffggddss Yes I understand, it's just a joke going on around here on the internet with lvl 1 crooks and lvl 100 boss.
@ffggddss
@ffggddss 5 жыл бұрын
@@jibran8410 OK, thanks for the warning. I'll be on the lookout for that ;-) Fred
@marcusrosales3344
@marcusrosales3344 5 жыл бұрын
Huh? Did I just get assigned homework?
@EpicMathTime
@EpicMathTime 5 жыл бұрын
You are going to be an incredible lecturer and physicist.
@krishnasimha8097
@krishnasimha8097 3 жыл бұрын
Hey epic math time
@alexp1113
@alexp1113 5 жыл бұрын
Do you hype yourself up before saying, “What’s going on smart people”? It’s always on point.
@AndrewDotsonvideos
@AndrewDotsonvideos 5 жыл бұрын
I'm just naturally hype af
@Shanksdan
@Shanksdan 5 жыл бұрын
Glad to have stumbled upon your channel. Physics is really all about asking yourself why something is wrong/ right and actually calculating the answer by yourself (and of course, coming up with a hand waving argument before ).
@dibidus6080
@dibidus6080 5 жыл бұрын
Why am I watching Wolverine's lost brother talk about quantum mechanics at 1 am? We may never know.
@sce2aux464
@sce2aux464 4 жыл бұрын
And after this video, I watched...kzbin.info/www/bejne/a6imnZeNpM13f8k
@hotlinkster123
@hotlinkster123 5 жыл бұрын
The first time a youtube recommendation has actually been good. Subscribed!
@AndrewDotsonvideos
@AndrewDotsonvideos 5 жыл бұрын
Malcolm Hall awesome!
@masoomladka5646
@masoomladka5646 4 жыл бұрын
@@AndrewDotsonvideos 😭😂😂
@pwkn86
@pwkn86 5 жыл бұрын
Schrodinger did an OPPSIE!
@jamestheotherone742
@jamestheotherone742 5 жыл бұрын
But still hoodwinked a generation of mathematicians, physicists, sundry academics , politicians, and generals and made off like a bandit.
@woofle4830
@woofle4830 4 жыл бұрын
Both the schrodinger equation and relativity work... so what point is anyone trying to prove here?
@Nebukanezzer
@Nebukanezzer 4 жыл бұрын
@@woofle4830 but not together.
@woofle4830
@woofle4830 4 жыл бұрын
Ohok
@juanjoserodriguezvera2405
@juanjoserodriguezvera2405 3 жыл бұрын
@@Nebukanezzer exactly and with this demostration we define one of the problems scientists want to solve
@Ricocossa1
@Ricocossa1 5 жыл бұрын
5:06 This is why we often express vectors of the holonomic basis as ∂i , since there is really an equivalence between vectors and directional derivatives as well as how vectors and partial derivatives transform. In good old flat space this is just a curiosity, but this is crucial in Riemannian geometry where you want to define a tangent space without an embedding. The tangent space can be defined as some abstract vector space made out of directional derivative operators.
@williamky8842
@williamky8842 4 жыл бұрын
The only explanation my lecturers give us was SE doesn’t treat spacetime on equal footing, KG and Dirac does Nice to see some more detailed explanations
@WesSlEy954
@WesSlEy954 5 жыл бұрын
I’m proud of myself for being able to keep up with all the calculus going on here
@ElSachinoo
@ElSachinoo 4 жыл бұрын
Nice! Another pre-maths observation: The Schrodinger equation (for a free particle) has a fixed mass value, which is also a relativistic red flag. Another decent exercise: Showing the Schrodinger equation is invariant under Galilean transformations - this also lets you see that mass defines a superselection variable in nonrelativistic QM ('Bargmann mass superselection rule').
@HardHitnHstry
@HardHitnHstry 5 жыл бұрын
I swear physics should also count as a second language.🐈🤯
@ClayonTutorials
@ClayonTutorials 5 жыл бұрын
Math is literally a language, and so is logic. Look up formal systems and formal languages for more information. English is a natural language (along with the rest of the spoken languages).
@nosirrahx
@nosirrahx 5 жыл бұрын
@@ClayonTutorials I was going to say something similar. Physics is a nation, they speak calculus there.
@wolflarsen1900
@wolflarsen1900 5 жыл бұрын
math, logic, geometrie are per definition languages. All Equations are sentences about quatitative or countable relations of individual elements of a defined universal set and so on. They all have the same structure as normal languages, they have a syntax, a semantics and a truth value and the only thing which can be true is a sentence (ok in normal language its utterances, which include context and sentence, because in normal languages there is also a context principle)
@narata1541
@narata1541 5 жыл бұрын
@@ClayonTutorials True, but I'd rather order my food in any other language than math. 😊
@ClayonTutorials
@ClayonTutorials 5 жыл бұрын
@@narata1541 But you should always "order" your internet using math: kzbin.info/www/bejne/kGSsgYmNg5JkodU.
@Ohmau33
@Ohmau33 4 жыл бұрын
I love coming back to these videos and understanding them a little more each time
@thebigoeuph
@thebigoeuph 5 жыл бұрын
For my class that I TA'd for, we actually did that as an extra credit assignment...
@materiasacra
@materiasacra 5 жыл бұрын
Instead of working out the coordinate transformation, one can glance briefly at the equation itself. It expresses the non-relativistic relation between total, kinetic and potential energy in the operator form required by Quantum Mechanics: E = p^2/2m + V. This is essentially different from the relation in Special Relativity. Done.
@yenco4
@yenco4 5 жыл бұрын
Grandioso encontrar un canal así y con tanta naturalidad
@michaeljburt
@michaeljburt 5 жыл бұрын
Extraordinarily clear explanation of the mathematics of both Lorentz transforms and how to apply it to an equation involving space and time. Absolutely fantastic. So many folks talking about these aspects of physics have never done the math. It is abundantly clear that you have, likely many times over.
@argentinephenomenologist
@argentinephenomenologist 5 жыл бұрын
I like the initial explanation, and I love the fact that there's so much I'll get the chance to learn in some time to understand the following part. Greetings!
@ThimbaDM
@ThimbaDM 5 жыл бұрын
My god this looks and sounds so tough. I going through high school, studying mathematics and physics and I'm about to apply for a university and try to get my masters in medical physics. Feels like I have a long way to go when I compare my high school material to this. Oh well.. I'm not afraid of hard work.
@CaridorcTergilti
@CaridorcTergilti 4 жыл бұрын
Do not worry this calculation Is very easy, just standard derivation and substitution. You will understand It fully in a few years
@DrGamez123
@DrGamez123 5 жыл бұрын
doing quantum physics at uni RN, hyped to ask this question in class to make everyone roll their eyes, and for the lecturer to get slightly annoyed
@sahilnaik3079
@sahilnaik3079 5 жыл бұрын
Aha I love these videos. Tell me who doesn't want to watch that after waking up. Great video!!!
@featherinescat
@featherinescat 5 жыл бұрын
In anime world, mentioning Schrodinger will make you smart
@rituparnakundu2022
@rituparnakundu2022 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you Andrew for showing the rigorous calculation . I like to point out that without going through the long functional derivative part for the 2nd order term you can just square it. (d/dx)^2 = (rhs)^2. That will give the same result and a big time saver.
@Wecoc1
@Wecoc1 5 жыл бұрын
1:34 You know this is fucked up when even the Unicode missing letter square is a parameter on your equations
@flaviusclaudius7510
@flaviusclaudius7510 5 жыл бұрын
I was always confused when I heard that the Schrödinger equation was non-relativistic, when I knew you could just sub in a relativistic Hamiltonian and it just works (being identical to the Dirac equation); I didn't realise that 'the Schrödinger equation' and 'the general Schrödinger equation' were considered distinct, because I'd always only been taught the latter i.e. id/dt=H. I guess this makes sense now.
@commaspace2196
@commaspace2196 5 жыл бұрын
You could've made this way easier by approximating the whole thing to be 3.1
@tapferetomate914
@tapferetomate914 4 жыл бұрын
If you say that the Schrödinger equation is i d/dt [e, t> = H [e, t> it totally works for a special relativistic hamiltonian. The familiar wave equation form of the Schrödinger equation is just it's representation in Position Basis with THE non-relativistic Hamiltonian: H=p^2/2m + V(x) In the case of a free relativistic Scalar particle: H =1/2m^2 * (pI * pI + m^2) where pI denotes the I-th element of Momentum, where I=2 or 3 This is so called lightcone quantization Add a potential V(x) and you're good to go. (you then obviously have a non-free Scalar particle)
@dXoverdteqprogress
@dXoverdteqprogress 5 жыл бұрын
There was a mistake in your proof. You assumed that the wavefunction is a scalar -- it is not. Let's take psy to be a Gaussian which, at it's peak, has the value p. In a primed frame the value at the peak cannot be the same as p because if you Lorentz contract a function that preserves probability, the peak will be larger. Taking this into account does not save the Schrodinger's equation from being non-relativistic, but people should be aware of this argument.
@danielplacido8746
@danielplacido8746 5 жыл бұрын
But the wave function is scalar. Complex, but scalar.
@dXoverdteqprogress
@dXoverdteqprogress 5 жыл бұрын
@@danielplacido8746 Nope. It changes under a Lorentz transformation.
@dXoverdteqprogress
@dXoverdteqprogress 5 жыл бұрын
@MetraMan09 For a constant velocity, gamma is a constant; it only varies with time when you have acceleration.
@colfrancis9725
@colfrancis9725 3 жыл бұрын
@@dXoverdteqprogress Wish I had seen this comment before I spent time writing my own.
@alexbaykov9221
@alexbaykov9221 5 жыл бұрын
Schroedinger started with relativistic equation, the calculations following this approach were inconsistent with experimental results of that time, so he did a non-relativistic approximation, which is exactly the Schroedinger equation we know. When the experiments became more precise, the need for relativistic approach became obvious.
@brandonmartin9416
@brandonmartin9416 4 жыл бұрын
I don’t know what the hell is happening, and I’m not a physics major, but I continue to watch anyways.
@joaopedroaguiarfmatos1473
@joaopedroaguiarfmatos1473 5 жыл бұрын
i just saw partial derivatives at university,im feeling really smart for understanding ate least 10% of this video
@bobbypederson
@bobbypederson 5 жыл бұрын
I wish I was able to understand this video so I could do the challenge at the end
@AndrewDotsonvideos
@AndrewDotsonvideos 5 жыл бұрын
What there anything specific that was unclear that I can work on?
@bobbypederson
@bobbypederson 5 жыл бұрын
@@AndrewDotsonvideos oh no, it's not your bad, just a bit of a lack of understanding on my part.
@rufusapplebee1428
@rufusapplebee1428 4 жыл бұрын
@@AndrewDotsonvideos formulations in applications is algorithms. I am not smart enough to follow formulations, always. Takes me long time to get to the applications, then guess the algorithms and then look at the formulations and definitions of the universes and multiverses. The attempted long term goals of the algorithms is to change the definitions.
@pushingpositivity518
@pushingpositivity518 5 жыл бұрын
I like your videos. You definitely know your stuff. Also i like your shortcut videos an they way you do integrals & differentiating. Thank you.
@Adam-pv4qn
@Adam-pv4qn 5 жыл бұрын
I'm so dumb I literally don't understand any of this but I'm still here to support.
@LukeBurns
@LukeBurns 5 жыл бұрын
It's worth noting that not only is the Schrodinger restricted to the non-relativistic domain, but it is also restricted to the description of electrons in a spin eigenstate! The Pauli equation is a non-relativistic approximation of the Dirac equation that reduces to the Schrodinger equation when in an eigenstate of spin.
@mokopa
@mokopa 5 жыл бұрын
3:25 It was at this point that i gave the video a like, and settled in for the long haul
@noir935
@noir935 5 жыл бұрын
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@danielbachour9987
@danielbachour9987 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome man! I'm new here! Didn't know about your channel! it's amazing! And of course, already subscribed!! Keep the work going!!
@christianfunintuscany1147
@christianfunintuscany1147 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Andrew! Regarding the Schrodinger work and the process he used to find his equation it may be useful to read his article on Physical Review n.6 Vol.28 December, 1926. In pragraph n.10 he explains why he didn’t include a relativistic analisis.
@emmanuelfchea
@emmanuelfchea 4 жыл бұрын
I am proud of myself that I understood almost 96% of what was presented. I am a Physics major with minor in Mathematics. I still have more work to do. Kudos for the brilliant explanation.
@addas1392
@addas1392 4 жыл бұрын
Me too...🎉. I am really proud of myself. I did have to rewind on some parts. But I got it. Thank you Andrew. One thing I did not realize until now was how we could apply all the mathematical physics stuff into every derivation and understand that these are correlated. I am so inspired.🎉🎉🎉
@heavennoes
@heavennoes 3 жыл бұрын
me to, I'm going 5th grade and I am proud of myself for finally getting what is going on after a lot of work.
@worldedit8784
@worldedit8784 5 жыл бұрын
I'm so happy I found this channel!!!
@Sciencationelle
@Sciencationelle 5 жыл бұрын
I've got a real question. Love your vids, bringing some real physics on youtube, that's juste pure kindness and it is quiet satisfying to watch :) But in your video you said multiple time that "Schrödinger's eq. leads to wave equation" I'm not quite sure, this is what De Broglie said "stationary wave" but in fact all the Schrödinger's eq. solution's aren't wave, the solution are just "stationary state" without the proper form of a wave eq. Anyway that's what I've been told. I would to hear you on that one :) !
@ActionPhysics
@ActionPhysics 4 жыл бұрын
On the same line of thought you will see that gallelian transformation doesn't keep SE invariant. But actually it does. While proving such invariance we can't simply take psi going to psi prime.
@ActionPhysics
@ActionPhysics 4 жыл бұрын
We have to keep a phase factor then this problem gets super duper complicated
@exegetor
@exegetor 5 жыл бұрын
subbed. (decided by the 4min mark) Please keep doing this Andrew!
@jeshurunluke5573
@jeshurunluke5573 5 жыл бұрын
Looks like ur daily upload schedule is always on the dot(son)
@maxwellsequation4887
@maxwellsequation4887 4 жыл бұрын
Andrew Son cosθ
@Zaalatrix
@Zaalatrix 5 жыл бұрын
Great video Andrew! One question though: Since v(x,t) = \frac{ \partial x}{ \partial t }, should't you also differentiate the v^2 terms when you Lorentz transform? Cheers, Henrik
@marioangelov113
@marioangelov113 10 ай бұрын
No, he doesn't differentiate them, because v is constant, so that makes the whole γ factor a constant. Because v is the velocity of the moving inertial reference frame S'. If v was a function of t that would mean, that S' is not inertial, because it would have acceleration.
@suryavasanth6893
@suryavasanth6893 5 жыл бұрын
I love quantum physics after I saw ur lecture.
@rafaelaguilar123
@rafaelaguilar123 5 жыл бұрын
Water is wet. Change my mind.
@AndrewDotsonvideos
@AndrewDotsonvideos 5 жыл бұрын
you cant spell water without wet + ar because water ar wet
@rafaelaguilar123
@rafaelaguilar123 5 жыл бұрын
*Galaxy brain*
@waveexistence5742
@waveexistence5742 5 жыл бұрын
Water can't be wet. Wetness is a property of something with water on it. If water has water on it there is just more water, not wet water. You inherently need a second object in which to frame the state of wetness. So a bowl with water in it could be described as wet. But a globe of water floating in the vacuum of space is just water.
@masskiller9206
@masskiller9206 5 жыл бұрын
@@waveexistence5742 C-C-C-COMBO killed it lol
@رضاشریعت
@رضاشریعت 5 жыл бұрын
Amazing!😂
@YdarklifeY
@YdarklifeY 5 жыл бұрын
From the view of someone that is also studying physics that was very well explained ^
@quTANum
@quTANum 4 жыл бұрын
I think you can directly square the partial x differentiation operator? It'll be easier this way, since we don't need to apply the definiation of it again.
@aram9167
@aram9167 5 жыл бұрын
goddamn it you sound like an awesome teacher to have
@AndrewDotsonvideos
@AndrewDotsonvideos 5 жыл бұрын
tysm
@brianel-khoury885
@brianel-khoury885 5 жыл бұрын
Love the medium level of rigour. I subscribed. Keep it up.
@tuskiomisham
@tuskiomisham 5 жыл бұрын
we learned about the 2d wave equation in my semiconductors class. it's a beautiful thing, but it can't explain a lot of stuff
@Calilasseia
@Calilasseia 5 жыл бұрын
Nice and concise. I could think of a few lecturers who would do well to emulate this performance. :)
@AdityaKumar-ij5ok
@AdityaKumar-ij5ok 5 жыл бұрын
1:36 why physicists always love to forcefully shorten their equation by using alien symbols
@GeneralPet
@GeneralPet 5 жыл бұрын
Operators are used elsewhere too
@emmanuelfchea
@emmanuelfchea 4 жыл бұрын
It gives you a better understanding of what happening as you solve the physical problems.
@bilalhussein9730
@bilalhussein9730 4 жыл бұрын
With that particular notation it has two nice uses: it tells you in a millisecond that the equation is Lorentz invariant and makes finding the Green's function extremely simple. It's a lot easier to remember the following: 1) No free Lorentz indices means Lorentz invariance 2) box +m^2 -> 1/(w^2-p^2-m^2) in momentum space. This is just a Fourier transform. Why write more down then you have to? General relativity can get tedious enough to work with using index notation/ differential forms. It would be an absolute nightmare without it.
@doodelay
@doodelay 5 жыл бұрын
Watching this I'm so proud of you bro, you understand this shit like it's second nature. And I know that took crazy effort. Will meet you at the top someday
@peterwan9076
@peterwan9076 2 жыл бұрын
Great work. Keep it up. Enjoy your video very much.
@zhelyo_physics
@zhelyo_physics 2 жыл бұрын
Fantastic video!
@thelocalsage
@thelocalsage 5 жыл бұрын
Really liked this video! Would like to see more like this.
@mislavnorsic6681
@mislavnorsic6681 5 жыл бұрын
awsome video, try to add some mic to your place so that sound can be captured when you are not faceing the camera.
@theultimatereductionist7592
@theultimatereductionist7592 5 жыл бұрын
Which equations should we use for large systems of molecules?
@ghanshamchandel1854
@ghanshamchandel1854 5 жыл бұрын
Newtons. If wayy to big, then Einsteins GR.
@vinirn
@vinirn 5 жыл бұрын
I've subscribed to your channel at the first minute of the video.
@katherinebolwellbyme
@katherinebolwellbyme Жыл бұрын
I forgot how to do the chain rule, this was a great explanation/refresher. P.s. I never knew that a mu could be written as a little m.
@katherinebolwellbyme
@katherinebolwellbyme Жыл бұрын
Also it's not pronounced d
@victorhakim1250
@victorhakim1250 5 жыл бұрын
Hey Andrew. Here's my main confusion: it looks like the Schrodinger Equation isn't even invariant under Galilean transformations! In particular, looking at the final equation you wrote, taking the limits as v/c approaches zero and gamma approaches 1, there still remains the rightmost term of the right side of the equation. Any ideas on why this lingering term appears?
@victorhakim1250
@victorhakim1250 5 жыл бұрын
Ohhh I've figured it out. That "lingering" term actually needs to be there! (tldr: the Schrodinger equation is in fact invariant under Galilean transformations.) In taking the partial with respect to t', we're taking x' to be constant, not x. But in verifying the validity of the transformation, we have to start with the non-transformed Schrodinger equation, which originally uses psi(x,t) not psi(x',t'). In taking the partial of psi(x,t) with respect to t' (keeping x' constant, not x!), there is an extra term v(delPsi/delx) which is exactly what is cancelled out by the "lingering" term.
@isaaccastro7853
@isaaccastro7853 5 жыл бұрын
Glad to have just stumbled upon this!
@camilosoares9132
@camilosoares9132 5 жыл бұрын
Do one on the black hole electron (simple math)...i stumbled across that by accident and would like a video and the hypothetical it can be. By the way i deduced it biologically (using physical limit and not mathematical limits). From what i understand that wasn't the first time black holes got over looked ;)
@hbarudi
@hbarudi 5 жыл бұрын
Completed this entire major in physics, but still not much info is taught about equations being general relativity or special relativity besides the obvious such as Maxwell's equations and the E=mc2 equations. But I think Schrodinger's equation describes only the wave and simply gives a probability for where the particles is but does not tell the speed of the particle, just its energy and mass are involved. There is particle wave duality and Schrodinger equation focuses on the wave part.
@qizhengli5685
@qizhengli5685 5 жыл бұрын
Very interesting video! Although I think it will be simpler to derive it if considering the relation of ∂²/∂x²=(∂/∂x)² =(γ∂/∂x’-γv∂/c²∂t‘)²
@qizhengli5685
@qizhengli5685 5 жыл бұрын
which is to regard the partial derivatives as operators.
@TheDarktsun
@TheDarktsun 3 жыл бұрын
I'm wondering if we should interpret this as the Schrodinger Hamiltonian is invalid at high energies, or that the energy is observer-frame dependent...Watching your Klein Gordon derivation next, thanks for the great videos.
@philippjohannsen6217
@philippjohannsen6217 5 жыл бұрын
Great stuff with this homework thing going on. Looking forward to more challenges :))
@linuxgaminginfullhd60fps10
@linuxgaminginfullhd60fps10 5 жыл бұрын
Some people say relativity and quantum mechanics are incompatible. I am new to your channel and don't know if you made a video about it. Yet you need relativity in any physical theory to properly describe magnetic field. In quantum mechanics you would need Dirac equation(which is relativistic!) to derive spin. Some people talk about black hole entropy paradox(as one of the reasons why they are not compatible). Wasn't that resolved years ago? Others talk about "quantum teleportation"... which does not transmit information, thus does not violate finite speed of information transmission(aka speed of light).
@treborheminway1196
@treborheminway1196 5 жыл бұрын
Question:If entanglement is a defining aspect of QM,why would you expect relativistic terms in equations describing it. Isn't that essentially why folks like the whole " The universe is a hologram " idea? Doesn't entanglement mean there is no spacetime at the am level????
@pipertripp
@pipertripp 5 жыл бұрын
Good craic. Enjoyed even if I have only the dimmest understanding of quantum mechanics.
@alapandas6398
@alapandas6398 5 жыл бұрын
I think the we should get psi'(x',t')=psi(x,t)(1-v²/c²)^(¼) to make the probability in the same region to be equal in both frames. Because probability should be invariant. And this psi' satisfies Schroedinger equation in psi does. By the way I got that equation you wrote but d²/dx'dt' terms vanished. I think I did some calculation mistake.
@ThomasGutierrez
@ThomasGutierrez 3 жыл бұрын
Great content as always. However, \hat{H}\Psi=i\hbar\dot{\Psi} the "Schrödinger equation" does still work relativistically and is used in QFT (with the right Hamiltonian) to evolve the state vector in Hilbert space. The KG and Dirac equations aren't "wave equations" but rather best interpreted as "field equations."
@OBGynKenobi
@OBGynKenobi 5 жыл бұрын
Which brings up a question. Where is the line between relativistic and non relativistic. For example up to what limit does Schrodinger equation work? ie, what is the fastest speed an electron can go and Schrodinger still works?
@AndrewDotsonvideos
@AndrewDotsonvideos 5 жыл бұрын
Go Mezant The answer is always “it depends on the error you’re willing to accept”
@medexamtoolscom
@medexamtoolscom 5 жыл бұрын
Isn't it weird that special relativity is automatically already built into Maxwell's equations, but not the Schroedinger wave equation? It's true, light travels at a constant speed by the wave equation solved using Maxwell's equations, it just naturally comes out that a wave is predicted to move at speed 1/sqrt(µ0*ε0), and like magic that happens to be c.
@harrisonhutton
@harrisonhutton 5 жыл бұрын
When you would sit down for a lecture, how would your professor(s) introduce something like this?
@geoffrygifari4179
@geoffrygifari4179 5 жыл бұрын
hey andrew, new sub here... i think there was a slight missed opportunity, for if you did cancel the gammas and show in the video the limit of v/c -> 0, you might retain the usual schro's eq with x' and t', thus showing that schro's work in the nonrelativistic limit
@AndrewDotsonvideos
@AndrewDotsonvideos 5 жыл бұрын
Right but at first glance you don't recover the schrodinger equation because there's still the extra factor of d/dx'. You'd need to place more focus on the wave function itself to get everything to come out alright under Galilean transform.
@geoffrygifari4179
@geoffrygifari4179 5 жыл бұрын
you're right! my bad
@AndrewDotsonvideos
@AndrewDotsonvideos 5 жыл бұрын
Geoffry Gifari no what you said would totally work, it would just be a lot of effort😅
@PrivateSi
@PrivateSi 5 жыл бұрын
Certainly is a mind bender... I like this interpretation of quantum 'relativity'... Be interesting to see if the standard model could be derived. It's compatible with Bohmian mechanics. Liquid Crystal Space -- Bottom-Up Universe Thought Experiment.. Colloidal Crystal Multiverse Constraints: 3D, minimal base rules + parts. No singularities with the infinite possible -ve flux and +ve cell attraction = 2x repulsion. Balances as a close-packed lattice 1 Cell volume of flux -6, Cell +6. Pulls 6 opposites to light speed in 1 cell length Escape velocity = light speed (C) tied to the constant time light takes to move between cells Tunneling: stretched, faster than light front, light speed or slower rear Tunneling cells form in phase extrons+holons that often annihilate to regular='empty' lattice Tunneling particles reform elsewhere and their original space 'heals' as regular empty lattice Particles: Inflows repel. 6 equatorial and 2x3 polar flows (-6 if poles flow in, +6 if out) Extron: extra cell compresses the lattice, pulls flux (that pulls cells) that repel as rays Holon: flux-rich missing cell hole stretches the lattice, pulls in cells that repel as rays Dipolons: extron + holon.. Diextron: +ve + -ve extron.. Diholon: +ve + -ve holon Tempons: Cellon: lattice chunk.. Fluxon: holes.. heal to extrons+holons and/or/then annihilate 3D polar flows are more concentrated than flat equatorial flows so effect particles more Moving extrons push cells that -ve flux space behind pulls in with an inertia-providing kick Particles are surrounded by pilot waves that can diffract, interfere and alter trajectory Strong gravity may force (some) particle outflows to repel back to its inflows in a few patterns Charge Flow: -ve inflows, +ve outflows. Polar flow count. Lattice, extron, holon charge Flow has mass, gravity affects flow. Close flows attract or repel, outflows may join inflows Particles absorb charge flow force as they symmetrically accelerate cells to light speed anyway Dipolon / Matter-Antimatter: gravity shrinks matter, lowering charge emission phase resolution Close out of phase extron+holon pairs form dipolons, in phase annihilate and radiate excess flux A feeding black hole's core extrons+holons are forced in phase and annihilate. A universe grows Black Hole Universes / Recursive Conformity: Big Bang = black holes colliding and merging Gravity compacts extrons+holons, blurs phases, charge flow stops at light speed. Annihilation Total energy and matter potential is conserved. No fine tuning, universes follow the same rules Level n +/- particle lattice fields or other (joined) particle fields (+ free particles) feasible Mass / Gravity / Dark Energy: lattice charge balance, charge inflow, entanglement, universe shell Mass is (the number of) out of place lattice cells. An object's extron(s) + holon charge flow Mass pulls flux pulls mass. Lattice vibes up to 1 cell radius and light speed effect matter Outflows bounce in all directions, inflows lead to the center. Outflows tend to join inflows Mass uses up flux so void cells repel more. Universes trap cells so gravity shrinks the lattice Universes grow, shells thin, excess flux radiates, lattice expands. Shell gravity cancels inside Photon / Light / Time: relatively quantum.. particle vibes ripple charge outflows Transverse/helical waves concentrate charge flow mass to a point. 2D adds effective area Photons make lattice pilot waves that diffract in a slit but are overridden by a detector's fields Moves between cells in a constant time (+ universe expansion) as denser lattice takes more energy Gravity shrinks and acceleration compresses the lattice so both absolutely slow light locally Units shrink too and acceleration slows kinetic processes so local vacuum light speed measures C Velocity stretches kinetic processes in time as they travel more to complete. Clocks run slower The Standard Model: the possibilities are numerous. Some SM particles may be tempons
@nahiakhan2135
@nahiakhan2135 6 ай бұрын
Thank you so much . Love from Pakistan ❤
@fatematuzzohora5615
@fatematuzzohora5615 4 жыл бұрын
you are a very good teacher you know that?
@thiagotsutsui452
@thiagotsutsui452 11 ай бұрын
Andrew, is there a way to do the same with Dirac's equation without using the relativistic notation?
@largewoollybugger
@largewoollybugger 4 жыл бұрын
Andrew: I need more rigor Whiteboard: But, only (at most) 3 things are defined?
@subramanyam2699
@subramanyam2699 5 жыл бұрын
Got so many connections in one video.. Tnx :)
@acatisfinetoo3018
@acatisfinetoo3018 4 жыл бұрын
I don't understand why the chain rule is used. My understanding is that it's used to solve composite functions, but i only did Calc one so this level of math is a bit beyond me...
@bilalchughtai_
@bilalchughtai_ 4 жыл бұрын
Shouldn't you consider a multiplicative phase onto the wavefunction? When showing the Schrödinger equation is invariant under guage transformations for an electromagnetic potential we pick up such a factor in the wavefunction!
@ゾカリクゾ
@ゾカリクゾ 5 жыл бұрын
Oh no... Your schedule will mess up with mine if you start doing these pbs-like competitions. You literally upload right after I go to sleep (I'm here now because it's saturday).
@AndrewDotsonvideos
@AndrewDotsonvideos 5 жыл бұрын
Hmmm, actually, quantum mechanics forbids this
@okmijnbhunji1316
@okmijnbhunji1316 4 ай бұрын
but lorentz transform is only for the special relativity right? should we work in functional form for the coordinate transforms, it would be more general i suppose.
@tuskiomisham
@tuskiomisham 5 жыл бұрын
this is why processors above 6 GHz are not possible. a wavelength of light at 6 GHz is 5 cm. That's as big as the chip! you'd have to make the processor smaller yet, or decouple the ALU from time. currently the only time decoupling that is possible is with Q bits and observing Q bits. even then, the board and memory is still silicon, and subject to such limits. what im referring to is the early effect of a transistor. if you were to look at a cpu in ultra slow mo, the electrons would (most likely) look like ripples in a pond, with the epicenter being the clock itself
@bryandepaepe5984
@bryandepaepe5984 5 жыл бұрын
Using liquid nitrogen the current maximum overclocked CPU frequency is 8722.78 MHz. The increasing electrical resistance from increasing temperatures is what limits frequency.
@Dan-nh8nu
@Dan-nh8nu 5 жыл бұрын
Didn't have a scooby about what you were saying but watched it anyway :-)
@wolframalpha8634
@wolframalpha8634 5 жыл бұрын
You made my day !
@arnoldbirkenhager1290
@arnoldbirkenhager1290 5 жыл бұрын
Ha! You missed two primes :). Wouldn't have given you another result though, since you only forgot to write the primes and continued calculating as if they were there. Good job! Enjoyed the video and could follow along, but couldn't do it myself. A new Feynman in the making? Hope you aspire to be a teacher. Thanks!
@steveagnew3385
@steveagnew3385 5 жыл бұрын
okay...the Schrodinger equation includes derivatives of space and time and relativity uses the equivalence of energy (or frequency) and mass to link space and time. So of course, there is no easy way out with the assumption of space and time. However, the Schrodinger equation in terms of matter and action is naturally Lorentz invariant and so the universe is made up of matter and action from which space and time emerge. Matter and action are the conjugates that link gravity and charge, not space and time...
@xxyummyxx5
@xxyummyxx5 5 жыл бұрын
Hi Andrew I'm about to start classical mechanics next quarter, any tips? Having anxiety and doubting myself a bit
@chymoney1
@chymoney1 5 жыл бұрын
Thomas Marquez you can watch the whole class online so use youtube
@ThisIsDjonathan
@ThisIsDjonathan 5 жыл бұрын
I have no idea what’s going on.
@animeshsah5843
@animeshsah5843 4 жыл бұрын
Can I ask for a book to study tensors intuitively
@davisjohn-d6h
@davisjohn-d6h 5 жыл бұрын
Awesome video Andrew. Also I'm going to be taking my first electricity and magnetism physics class in a couple weeks, do you guys have any recommendations on good online resources to look at to help me in E&M?
@corydiehl764
@corydiehl764 5 жыл бұрын
walter lewin, and griffiths book
@swish6143
@swish6143 5 жыл бұрын
Definitely the Griffiths book. Greets from Frankfurt
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