Why There Are No Megatall Skyscrapers in New York

[@craigmeeker4932]

This guy could narrate a video about socks and I'd still give it a thumbs up

[@TheB1M]

Haha, thanks! "With an elaborate pattern, super-strong heel and near knee-high height, this, is the most impressive sock ever created"

[@cxjcole]

@@TheB1M I’m sold, take my money!

[@MrATX1]

@@TheB1M honestly a great idea for April 1st haha

[@steveburrington4288]

“Rarely alone, these pairs of varying fabric have been gathering together since the dawn of time. Ranging from high fashion leggings in Egyptian tombs to quality silks of the East India Trading Co in the Golden Age of Queen Elizabeth. Foot coverings have made their long journey one step at a time to what we now know and love ....SOCKS! Where did they come from? Where are they going? The answers to these questions and more begin in a small town in Mozambique...”

[@garyruss3529]

@@steveburrington4288 I actually was able to read that in his voice. LOL

[@VEE3RDEYE]

They should build down, make an anti-sky scraper 500m underground

[@RealmDesigner]

The subway system goes like 200m down at it's deepest. Just 300 more to go! :D

[@oyvey764]

a groundscraper? lol

[@stijn4771]

@@RealmDesigner whait wat, thats immensly deep. Is this for real? Cant even image going down by elevator to the station

[@konrad6995]

As a B1M subscriber you should know that it would be called a groundscraper

[@bruno84]

@@stijn4771 actually, the deepest station in the NYC Subway is 53m below the surface. So not even close to those 200m Alex said. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/191st_Street_station

[@jeanhubsch4757]

Even more reason why ”Highest Occupieable Floor” should be used as the measurement for height and not these spires that literally add nothing to the building yet seems to be 25% or more of the building’s height.

[@MatthewStinar]

It's like including the height of your stilettos in your dating profile. It's entirely dishonest.

[@smallworld707]

Push-up bra of sky scrapers

[@Kuddi11]

Absolutely, one of the best examples is the Shanghai World financial Center, total height is 492m and the highest floor is at 474m, now that’s a good skyscraper.

[@OpenRoader]

Absolutely, always felt like that was cheating.

[@scottblair3719]

Totally agree. I hate the inclusion of useless vanity spires just to grab height records. One WTC’s "spire" looks more like an antenna, which are never counted in official heights. The Central Park Tower, 111 W57th St, and 432 Park Ave all have higher roof heights than One WTC. It’s a totally sham record.

[@jorboii]

I don't think it will matter how tall the buildings get in New York in the future, the Empire State and Chrysler Buildings will always be the two most iconic buildings in the city.

[@user-mo6iw3yz7x]

Chrysler is definitely my favorite of all time

[@zrob8]

Thats what happens when the two tallest buildings in the world are built within a year of each other, 40 years before anything else could stack up against them. To me, the ESB, chrysler, and world trade center(twin towers), were the Big 3 that will never be outdone

[@th1std5t45]

Don't forget the 2 biggest buildings in New York at one point the world trade center or the 911 attacks .New York isn't the same without them.

[@collan580]

@@zrob8 I think they will kinda fade, just because more and more buildings reach that height

[@zrob8]

@@collan580 even as buildings reach that height, having two buildings over 1,000 feet 40 years before almost anything else, they will always be that iconic. Just like in sports. People will begin to outscore people like Michael Jordan, but he will ALWAYS be that legend

[@brianxyz]

If Chicago built a megatall NYC would quickly approve any proposal to beat what Chicago had done.

[@luuchoo93]

And that’s the great side of capitalism that produces wealth: competition

@@luuchoo93 yep but still need some socialist policies to be a good country

[@jackhansell4025]

@ It's all about balance. The most important thing for economic growth isn't even "capitalism" or "socialism", it is open and free trade routes. Why did the world economy explode through the 1950's? Cheap and efficient cargo ships went mainstream and you could trade with anyone across the world for pocket change. All we really need is good trading policies and we will be fine.

[@KanyeTheGayFish69]

Thermoplasmatales picrophilus just shut up

[@HAA0603]

Is it cause Chicago and New York City are crazy rivals?

[@zacharyjensen7661]

Seems like the best way to build higher than a 1776 foot skyscraper is to build a 1776 metre skyscraper.

[@PersonManManManMan]

Ideal way to solve the problem

[@BLWard-ht3qw]

"Bah...we're not gonna use some foreign unit of measuring to build an Murican building. Imperial system til death do us part!" ~American exceptionalism mentality (probably) Otherwise, your clever point stands. Lol.

[@meowthindegame8127]

that's going to happen when the US is going to transition to the metric system

[@milesanderson8088]

@@BLWard-ht3qw yeah I wish we used the metric system, it’s so much easier. But we would use yards, which Is bigger then a meter, but it would be over kill

[@LatinPlayer10]

1776 yards*

[@JBguitar-cj8pc]

I went to NYC for the first time last week. It was midnight when I arrived. Was totally mesmerized at how huge and beautiful it was 😵😵 it’s like looking through a kaleidoscope. Unlike any other city I’ve been in.

[@user-rm8by9fm]

I'd go there if it weren't for the gun crime and crime in general

[@krtotherob]

@@user-rm8by9fm that's only bronx and brooklyn but poor deluded areas

[@nikoanton8533]

@@user-rm8by9fm there’s like no crime in most areas

[@user-rm8by9fm]

@@jacktracy9915 I live in a quiet village in the uk with a low crime rate and I can actually outrun someone with a knife whereas I cant outrun someone with a f*cking gun

[@jacktracy9915]

@@user-rm8by9fm well now i see why u wouldn’t go to new york, it’s a huge change from the Uk

[@userofthetube2701]

Apparently the main purpose of building a megatall skyscraper in a desert is to increase the value of the land around it that the developers also own. The tower itself does not really need to be profitable as long as it's eye catching. Even if the same effect on land value existed in New York (where prices are already high), the benefits would fall to the owners of neighboring properties taking away a major rationale for such buildings.

[@lemondude6174]

Great point!

[@mehrcat1]

I think building mega tall skyscrapers is a dick measuring contest among megalomaniacs.

[@jackhansell4025]

Well Dubai has been working out really well for the UAE so your point is pretty accurate. Dubai does hold a lot of debt (at least 50 billion dollars atm) but that is surely better than not building anything at all and for the UAE to be more like Oman rather than Qatar. It obviously wouldn't work everywhere because labor is stupidly cheap in Dubai but I'm happy that the country found a niche way to be successful.

[@userofthetube2701]

@@mehrcat1 It can be both that and a rational economic decision. After all many people find it really interesting to go see who has the biggest. Tower I mean.

[@rothvonhoyte]

@@jackhansell4025 Slavery is cheap

[@kshitijbhalsane3509]

Avengers would destroy them while saving the city that's why

[@TheB1M]

Good point.

[@TIMBOWERMAN]

Steed and Peel?

[@eustache_dauger]

All the attacks from King Kong, Independence Day aliens to Chitauris. Nobody wanna build tall buildings anymore.

[@Aviraj]

THIS IS AN AVENGERS LEVEL THREAT😀

[@nathancommissariat3518]

@@Aviraj Gotta get Fury here ASAP

[@Pius-XI]

New York City has nothing to prove. You are the best of the best with history behind it's historic buildings

[@markgriffin2087]

Especially with the twin towers

[@ADI-112]

This is probably one of the best informative channels on youtube

[@TheB1M]

Ah wow!! Thank you so much!

[@skyak4493]

@@rdecredico It is pro building project but you just need to know it is one side of the story. No need to be nasty.

[@pavelow235]

vsauce?

[@Tzar1]

@@rdecredico Only wealthy people can afford a lot of the topics this channel covers. In most cases, poor people don't fund things like sky scrapers, wood cities, mega projects, and dams

[@nickharmon2157]

Basically you just said those other cities are overcompensating and New York already has confidence so they don’t need one and I’m loving the idea of New York judging these other cities 😂

[@ajgerbi]

Basically. Why would cities like L.A., France, London, NYC, and Tokyo need mega tall skyscrapers when they already have elite status?

[@blast4me754]

@@ajgerbi It's time for other major cities in the US to build mega-tall buildings like Houston, Dallas, Atlanta, Seattle, Charlotte, Philly, San Francisco and I would say Miami but I heard it's sinking...

[@AsiaMinor12]

​@@blast4me754 lol all those southern cities are sad jokes and they need to worry about urban sprawl instead on building nonsense skyscrapers. Houston and Atlanta are monstrosities of automobile sprawl.

[@timg2727]

I wish they had designed One WTC with a 1776' roof instead of a spire.

[@definitely_notme4112]

Well my idea would be have the top floor at 1776’ feet but above that still a spire, as I think it looks nice

[@timg2727]

@beaver feaver I'm aware. It still irritates me to no end that the tallest building in North America is only able to achieve that title via a spire. It's cheating in my view.

[@carbon5362]

@@timg2727 Well have you seen the spire on almost every other supertall skyscraper. The Burj Khalifa is a quarter spire and the Burj Al Arab is even worse. At least the roof of the One World means something as does the spire height.

[@Chris6d]

They should’ve made the roof height 1,776’ and the spire reach to 2,001’ feet

[@tilted4fun805]

same, but the symbolism of the roof height of 1wtc is that it was the same as the north tower of the twin towers.

[@WayPastCrazy2525]

Bet Chicago would LOVE to reclaim the "tallest in the U.S." over NY

[@visionist7]

It's funny how more megatalls have been proposed for Chicago (2) than New York (1)

[@timmmahhhh]

Would be cool but Chicago wouldn't want the added traffic. It would be bad enough in Manhattan but at least New York has an amazing subway system to get people around. Chicago's El is great but doesn't have nearly the coverage. It is what I call loop-centric, or that it really only serves people coming to and from the Loop and doesn't cover the entire city like New York's system. The six-story basement foundation for the abandoned Chicago Spire project is still in place if any developer wants to finish building Calatrava's design.

[@zachc8190]

Yes

[@muhammadalifazrainorizan5488]

Well reclaim it from Kuala Lumpur first... 😂😂😂😂😂. We defeated Chicago by 33 feet difference

[@theas2627]

@@muhammadalifazrainorizan5488 but since when kuala lumpur is in US ? 🙄

[@DealwithitHand]

New York already has the best PR in the world, his name's Spider-Man.

[@kevinbergin9971]

And the worst PR in the world, his name's King Kong.

[@piccoloatburgerking]

@@kevinbergin9971 Big Monke best PR, what you mean?

[@LemonInYourEyes]

Let's be real - Spider-Man would almost immediately turn to being a construction contractor and make the big real estate bucks pulling heavy shit into the sky.

[@williamserna1803]

@@LemonInYourEyes King Kong would be better

[@Liffey_Brown]

He might put some dirt in your eye.

[@Codraroll]

Hardly anybody wants to build Megatalls anywhere at the moment. I've counted about three dozen Megatall proposals since the mid-2000s, and all but four have stranded (six if you count observation towers). An additional two made it past the construction stage but were shortened due to flight ceilings. The rest all ran into serious issues when the question "wait, who's going to pay for this, and how will they make their money back?" was asked. Compared to their height, Megatalls don't have that much space to lease compared to lower buildings. Beyond a certain point, adding another floor to a building will cost more than you could hope to earn back in a reasonable time frame. It simply isn't economic to build that tall.

[@BUPSEY_WORLD]

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[@jackhansell4025]

It isn't economic to build that tall at all but I imagine more will come up in the future. It is good to remember that it has been an extremely short amount of time in human history where humans have built skyscrapers. With a surge of people soon to join the middle class in Africa, South America and Asia, don't be surprised to see a bunch of new proposals in the future.

[@bobbob-kc9wd]

Do you think that eventually it will become economical to build megatalls more

[@jackhansell4025]

I don't believe mega tall structures are going to be built in North America or Europe simply due to the cost and lack of density/desire in Western cities. I would assume the hot spots for larger buildings are either in vanity cities like Dubai or massive and emerging markets such as Indonesia, India, Malaysia, China, etc. But that's just my 2 cents.

[@josephscott7239]

It's not economic to build that tall with current technology, materials and construction techniques. However I think this will very likely change in the years and decades ahead.

[@ericdudley4169]

The wondrous little boy in me who loves skyscrapers, and in particular New York City skyscrapers, will always go on dreaming about a megatall being somewhere in the middle of Midtown Manhattan. It’s the same reason this wondrous little boy loves this wonderful channel. Thank you for your work!

[@criticalhard]

It'll happen sooner or later

[@armandomeza6387]

Yep. My fascination with skyscrapers started with the Chrysler building. And then I just couldn’t get enough of skyscrapers. I would build little replicas or skyscrapers as a kid with cereal boxes tape and scissors.

[@WitchKing-Of-Angmar]

I lost fascination after 1989 with skyscrapers. One extra being 1997 Petronas Tower. After that, all terrible and these supertalls don't add anything but a breakup in a city, making it resemble something unattural and not logical in the format of a pleasant city. New York needs to stop...they have too many buildings already, anymore and the city will start to come unloose and not resemble something you can look at and be proud of, see the history in each and every crevice of it. A city should be a place were you see all the evolution, and not in wow factor..but in seeing every building that has been put up, every special building from the 1780s to the 2000s. Manhattan needs to stop this, it'll be underwater soon as well if this wasn't shocking enough

[@daveyparks3872]

As much as I’d love that, logistically it’s be impossible to do so without demolishing a lot of historical sites in that area of Manhattan.

[@vuphuongtrinh8875]

This guy could narrate a video about socks and I'd still give it a thumbs up

[@duthegee]

New York already has the status as the world city. The ESB, WTC, Chrysler Building, Manhattan Bridge, even the Statue of Liberty etc... these are iconic modern places that most people on the planet recognize and creating something that can compete with these would need something more than just the height but a symbolism.

[@JerryRigEverything]

Love your videos!

[@terr1x-161]

Glass is glass and glass breaks

[@deanchur]

Hi Seth, you were great in One Punch Man.

[@ctgez7927]

Ok

[@thebananarepublic7255]

Don't tell me ur durability testing a tower.

[@erichwashausen4602]

I imagine he already does love his own videos.

[@caesar7734]

New York should build a new megatall Art Deco skyscraper. In my opinion the new glass skyscrapers are very boring and older limestone Art Deco buildings stand out more and are more iconic.

[@NugsSlugsBugs]

or futurist

[@abelzatyko1513]

Would the limestone be able to withstand that? Maybe use the design of the top of the Chryler building, with the metal panels and gargoyles. It would still maintain the style, but would allow more playroom with he structure.

[@mickanvonfootscraymarket5520]

@@abelzatyko1513 Robert Stern's office could make it work.

[@SomewhatSummarized]

Apes, together strong

[@alexcadream3097]

Not even a megatall, but just some new Art Deco towers, mb in some modern way idk

[@DarkNaomi]

If NYC ever built a megatall skyscraper, it has to be in the Art Deco style

[@kaylin3180]

no

[@tallyn2903]

Yes

[@thegorn]

Maybe

[@denverdubois5835]

I agree. A Gotham City thing. Similarly, if Seattle ever did, it should have a kind of Space Age look so it doesn't clash with their famous Space Needle.

[@jefffinkbonner9551]

That would look amazing.

[@SFBikerMike]

The only US city where I think a megatall building might work is Las Vegas. And it would take a huge rebound in tourism first.

[@azulaquaza4916]

A mega tall in Vegas would stick out more than that awful black building in Paris. Vegas actually has a lot of skyscrapers they are just short and wide. Chicago would benefit best.

[@ven1939]

Vegas can't have mega tall building only because where airport is & to many flight path areas.

[@jmchez]

@@azulaquaza4916 You are right about that. It's weird to look at hotels on the strip and realize that they are forty stories tall. They don't look it because they are really set far from the street and because, as you said, they are really wide. You can only do that when you have so much land on either side of that road.

[@TasX]

I feel like Huston or some other rapidly growing city in the midwest would be best due for a megatall.

[@Steve-zc9ht]

@@TasX I think chicago has the best shot because right now chicago is steady in population growth chicago still hasn't reached its full potential unlike new York chicago will be the city benefited the most

[@Rserpe]

On behalf of every former New Yorker with a piece of their heart and soul in this great city. Thank you.

[@ThatGuyInPhilly]

Always wondered this also. The NYC skyline has dramatically changed still after heading up there yesterday...at least since I was there last in 2005. Nothing "mega," these stick skyscrapers appear to dominate uptown (like you see at 3:45). I did see this new tower in Brooklyn...it's pretty hard to miss. I had no idea this existed until yesterday - called "Brooklyn Tower" (1073 ft), it APPEARS taller than Empire State Bldg. but no...about 200ft shorter. I think it appears that way since it's so thin, plus no other towering skyscrapers near this in Brooklyn. As for the WTC site, Freedom Tower (WTC1) is beautiful in my opinion, I admit I didn't quite like it when the final design was approved. I loved the original plans / ideas way back in 2002, 03. That site is STILL unfinished, 2 World Trade Center ...where is this?! 21 yrs since that horrible day and a little over 20 years since the debris was cleared & we can't get this completed. That is just sad.

[@Samuel_J1]

Nice video! NYC doesn't need a mega tall - the city already had so many world's tallest building. Great to understand these reasons why!

[@osiris_blanche]

"Why There Are No Megatall Skyscrapers in New York?" Answer: HAVE YOU BEEN IN NYC?? THEY NEED TO FINISH THE ON-GOING Construction as is!

[@roccoborghetti4693]

As someone who works for Local 1 in the boroughs I can definitely agree😂😂

[@sneakyninjastreef3549]

Fr 😂 just visited there a couple months ago and there's construction going on everywhere lmao

[@great-mighty9603]

@@sneakyninjastreef3549 it’s basically always in construction which isn’t really a surprise considering it’s one of the most populated cities on the globe but at the same is a bit annoying especially when driving.

[@gingerbreadman6415]

@@sneakyninjastreef3549 same! I saw scaffolding everywhere

[@rexology1431]

As a New Yorker, I always wondered why the freedom tower was the only tallest building and why nobody bothered to build higher. I don’t mind since the skyline looks beautiful with the freedom tower in downtown facing the Statue of Liberty. A true American city 🥰

[@blast4me754]

But now when you compare NYC to cities in China NYC is starting to looks a little dull...

[@theDronalist]

If they build it, I will drone it.

[@TheB1M]

YASS!!!! ✊✊✊

[@norfolx]

A pleasant surprise to see the Dronalist contribute to another skyscraper covering channel!

[@anurag.thakur]

Whoa u got this pinned,congrats

[@zakiducky]

How do you get permission to fly a drone in NYC? As I understand, it’s illegal to fly there across most of the city.

[@tescomealdeals4613]

at first I though you meant you would drone strike it, I'm not too familiar with your channel lmao

[@joshjamesmoule]

Me, a brit who's not really used to skyscrapers in general, seeing the title and going whaaaaat, NY towers pretty damn tall.

[@doomstadt2371]

Hey now, I've been to the Shard, it's pretty cool lol

[@champkind6877]

@@doomstadt2371 The Shard is one of Europe's biggest architectural eye sores.

[@tornadochaser7226]

Tallest thing I’ve ever seen in person is the London eye no joke

[@missq4724]

I am British and American, and I thought exactly the same thing. In fact, some time back, New York was knows as "the City of Skyscrapers"....and as I asked above, is the One World Trade Center not considered a mega-skyscraper then? I know it's thanks to a long spire, but in any case, some sites I have read are saying it's the tallest building in the Western hemisphere...

[@missq4724]

@@champkind6877 🤣🤣 True, the Shard is hardly the most attractive feature of the London skyline...

[@mckenziecolson7461]

I think one of the biggest reasons is because new York also knows what it's like for those buildings to come down in a worst case scenario situation

[@Aetherzic]

Hopefully it never happens again, but sadly with so many evil people in this world, it is almost inevitable it will

[@mckenziecolson7461]

@@Aetherzic I agree, but also part of me feels like a giant tragedy of this magnitude is what it would take to bring the US back together again. That's the one thing I miss is strangers holding each other up, nowadays we make up excuses just to be horrible to each other. We are more divided than ever.

[@Dip..0110]

@@mckenziecolson7461 yes, it's because of people's victimhood mentality and blaming others for their own fault, which is connected to liberal woke ideas.

[@marcelohendrix6139]

@@mckenziecolson7461 bring people together? ask muslims how miserable their lives were during that time

[@shawtop]

Mate you explain the facts so good and simple even a child could understand it. Killed it once again b1m

[@MRRookie232]

Still yet to watch this but I have already liked - that’s the level of confidence I have in the B1M lol

[@TheB1M]

Wow, thank you so much!!

[@kc_1018]

I would love for Dallas to build a couple of new skyscrapers. Our last tallest building was built in 1985 and most of the buildings that are currently under construction are between 100 to 200 meters and they are residentials.

[@mml1426]

Dallas has so much potential to be the city of the future in the USA. I would start by turning the Trinity River in a big park like central park, improve public transportation all around the city connecting Plano, Denton, Fort Worth and Arlington. Dallas can continue to expand unlike NYC, Chicago, Los Angeles or Houston. So much potential to do new stuff in Dallas that would bring tourism, and would make the city so competitive.

[@konrad6995]

I wonder when we will have a video about the new B1M headquarters in London, design by Norman Foster :D

[@TheB1M]

Hahaha, we'd LOVE that!! He may need to design and build it for free... 😬

[@LecturePal]

I have been through a minute only but I have to comment on the incredible quality of the intro. Extremely professional.

[@1998232v6]

I saw an artists rendering of what twin One World Trade Centers would have looked like. It was pretty cool. I wish they would have done that instead of the one giant building and several smaller buildings.

[@kevindavis8500]

Me too I wish they would have built two towers.

[@cromugnon8381]

Without the twin towers, there's something missing from New York's skyline

[@bent8085]

Yeah it feels empty even tough it is only missing two towers. The Twin Towers were iconic.

[@BabySonicGT]

yea

[@WorldSoldier017]

no shit

[@KDH-br6hy]

@@WorldSoldier017 lol

[@donkeykong4983]

R.I.P ✝️.

[@darkfox172]

Thx for keeping us sane B1M 👍🏽

[@MikMoen]

Those pencil towers are frightening just to look at. I've had dreams of those, where the higher you climbed them the more they wobbled like you were going to fall over.

[@flowerfaerie8931]

Technically they’re supposed to wobble as it makes them less likely to collapse, but you could not pay me enough to live in one.

[@x1achilles99]

As expected, The B1M comes through with a beautiful production. Well done.

[@deepspacejazz]

could be just me needing to get used to it, but the hudson yards, billionaires’ row and most notably one manhattan square have significantly uglified the manhattan skyline. great video as always!

[@videowilliams]

That's beautiful, man. Damn near cried at the end.

[@oyvey764]

Thanks for quality work B1M! It always makes my day when I see the notification for 1 of your videos. :-)

[@LMays-cu2hp]

Thank you so much. I am glad I have lived in New York when the older buildings of World Trade Center 1& 2 and the others in the World Trade Center Area to see how New York has grown since the late 1970s.

[@kevmagill5163]

After living in NYC, I relate to the idea that building higher than the Freedom Tower is just not cool..hearing it said here in this video I realized it's a real thing amongst all New Yorkers and it's leadership...Another engrossing video from the B1M.

[@yb__ty]

Cuz supertall skyscrapers are huge and they need a huge wide base and new York is to buildingly for that

[@TheB1M]

That is one of the reasons yes!

[@JamesSmith-cn1vy]

Red sus

[@diamondaxe4133]

@@JamesSmith-cn1vy verry sus

[@BUPSEY_WORLD]

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[@yb__ty]

@@BUPSEY_WORLD I saw ur vid I like it

[@MinistryofKeith]

I would love if you did more videos on the typical large american city like Atlanta or Miami.

[@whiskeythecat5765]

Miami would be great for super mega tall skyscrapers.

[@MinistryofKeith]

@@whiskeythecat5765 Miami would be horrible since it's all gonna flood out anyways.

[@ghostrighter6530]

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[@MinistryofKeith]

@@ghostrighter6530 I left a positive comment

[@beatmueller6490]

Love your "down to earth" non-hyper lnguage & descriptions. Well done! :)

[@maxant4285]

That final shot was beautiful.

[@titanicman9329]

Let's be frank, the only super tall structure anyone would tolerate in New York is one that follows classic designs anymore.

[@BUPSEY_WORLD]

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[@davidtuttle7556]

Let's also be honest. NY'rs and Americans in general miss the Twins terribly. To build higher would for some feel like erasing the memories of that day.

[@joshuamarshall1718]

@@davidtuttle7556 but at some point it counter intuitive. Vying for the good old days isn't progressing it's the antithesis of progression. I get the symbolic gesture of not beating past them but at some point you have to keep going.

[@davidtuttle7556]

@@joshuamarshall1718 if building higher can be done profitably, then yes. But most of the supertall skyscrapers such as the Khalifa have been absolute financial boondoggles.

[@joshuamarshall1718]

@@davidtuttle7556 oh you'd have to make sure the roi is good enough to justify it I agree. In most places it does in leases, real estate, and tourism which is why New York is endless cityscape it's works but at what point is emotions worth more than developing further? I guess would be my question. *Edit* I'm Canadian maybe it's cause I don't carry the same sentiment despite me remembering that day vividly, it shook us too. Maybe because I'm not a New Yorker I couldn't understand, however I was in a building when it fell down in 2012 and the city still left the space open in memoriam but to me that empty lot hurts more to look at then if a new commercial property took it's place.

[@Bg12789]

No other city can be like New York, I don't care how tall you build , you Will never be like New York City never ever.

[@justsomeguywithoutamustach9072]

Yeah you’re right,I’ve never seen a city with so many damn people and rats,felt dystopian,pizza was nice tho

[@great-mighty9603]

@@justsomeguywithoutamustach9072 not sure if that’s an insult or compliment. Not that I’m offended or anything.

[@maxlainchbury4967]

Ive been there it is the best place ever

[@midgetwars1]

lol, imagine if USA used metric. One World Tower to reach almost 2km tall.

[@magnushmann]

Sounds way more impressive But to be fair, they do kind of use it, even if they don't realise it. All US customary units are entirely defined by metric units.

[@renegaderaida526]

How would it? It's 500M tall. 1km is 1000M

[@taleseduardolima]

@@renegaderaida526 To commemorate the year of independence, it would have to be 1776 m tall instead of only 1776 ft.

[@renegaderaida526]

@@taleseduardolima yes i'm not the one who doesn't know this.

[@renegaderaida526]

@@taleseduardolima 1776m = 5800ft

[@visionist7]

It'll happen eventually. Probably a spire first. Edit: I've heard of absolutely *no* public controversy as to the height of Central Park Tower's cancelled spire. Zero. Few people even knew it was supposed to have a spire. It was cancelled to save money. The mayor has no individual say as to the height of a building, and One World Trade's stripped-down spantenna, itself a victim of cost cutting, has no hallowed status amongst the city's real estate tycoons. None. They will build taller when it's economically feasible to do so, and nobody will be able to stop them except those same economics as usual. That is all.

[@DavidC-qi9hr]

There could be a gentlemen's agreement to build no structure taller than 1 World Trade Center. We can see that for 50 years before consideration is made to build the world's tallest in New York City.

[@mr.brownstone5716]

Couldn't disagree more. Central Park Tower's spire was to rise to 1,775 feet, one symbolic foot short of the Freedom Tower's 1,776 foot height. They knew to *not* even broach that topic. And that was *before* Central Park Tower and its cohorts began literally casting shadows across Central Park. Going forward, their will be more opposition to the slender supertalls. Also, Bloomberg's administration rezoned more than a third of NYC. DeBlasio's weighed in on TDRs (transferrable development rights) and may make their acquisition more transparent, making it hard for developers to accumulate the necessary "air rights" to build that high at a cost effective price point. Don't kid yourself, the major has "an individual say" even if it isn't codified.

[@visionist7]

@@mr.brownstone5716 we'll see what happens on the Grand Hyatt site. The hotel won't last much longer and the office market will recover a lot faster. Cuomo has a lot vested in the site. He's always wanted a legacy in stone. Or in concrete & glass as today's trends dictate. Vanderbilt has 1400' to beat, the nearby JP Morgan HQ will probably be around that height. Nobody knows what will rise on the Roosevelt site yet. Cuomo will want to eclipse them all. As for shadows, that's just nimby handwringing.

[@BUPSEY_WORLD]

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[@mr.brownstone5716]

@@visionist7 - I don't see a need for office space in the future. It's a CoVid world and we're all telecommuting. I'm on the side that businesses will shrink their office footprints. JPMorgan left some air rights on the table when they choose to not exercise purchase options. Will it be a 1,000-foot tall building? Yes. Will it approach 1,776? Probably not. Most NIMBYISM is handwringing but they have a strong case as it pertains to Central Park.

[@A_lfredbrz]

I feel like San Diego would look amazing with a few supertalls. Sadly, due to the airport being close to downtown, it might not be possible.

[@moniquechavez150]

Thank you for another wonderful, and excitingly informative video. Cheers!

[@markfoster7949]

The view in new york looks amazing and these skyscrapers, I wish we have empire state building built in London it's a beautiful building. And for the guys who build those buildings back from the 1930's risk there LIVE'S without any safety gear

[@criticalhard]

Even earlier than the 30s, I'm not American but those who started building NY are legends.

[@jmchez]

Back then, they had a rule of thumb that said that 1 worker was expected to die for every million dollars spent. They just accepted it. In the middle of the great depression, those construction workers were happy to have such a good paying job. The Empire State Building was finished in 18 months and that includes the demolition of the Waldorf Astoria Hotel that was on the site.

[@magnvss]

The Mecca's "Big Ben Hotel" is of such an out of place and style building it's an inspiration. And inspiration to oppose such monstrosities anywhere in the world. Don't build up, built better, prettier and urban friendly.

[@boygenius538_8]

It looks tacky to me. I’m a Muslim most Muslims don’t like the excessive construction in Mecca. It detracts from the simple beauty of the city.

[@M.Đ-z4u]

@@boygenius538_8 money over religion it seems

[@59tothegrave4eva]

This mans accent is so professional I love it 😁😁

[@arthurmorgan6951]

Dutch is that you ?

[@59tothegrave4eva]

@@arthurmorgan6951 no this is Aiden O’ Malley

[@arthurmorgan6951]

@@59tothegrave4eva what if I told you this was Tacitus Kilgore and not Arthur Morgan

[@Mukler161]

Speaking of New York good morning New York lol

[@Blight225]

I saw the Freedom tower 2 days ago, absolutely beautiful skyscraper.

[@mikeifyouplease]

If I constructed a building that was five stories high, but had a one mile spire on top....would it be the tallest building in the world?

[@alexisbenitez2239]

Not necessarily but the tallest structure in the world

[@mikeifyouplease]

@@alexisbenitez2239 Thank you for your reply. It does make me think though, that since spires are used to indicate the height of many of these buildings, at what point are spires NOT considered as part of the total building height. Could I put a super tall spire on any decently tall building, and then claim that the "new building" is now the tallest in the world?

[@alexisbenitez2239]

@@mikeifyouplease if you were to put it on a smaller skyscraper then it does since it is a tall structure and with the spire it would count since it is part of the building

[@mikeifyouplease]

@@alexisbenitez2239 Thanks, once again for your reply. I wonder if anyone or any country is contemplating how tall a spire they could put on a structure and have the resulting entire building declared the tallest in the world.

[@missq4724]

Precisely my point! I don't know whether it really does make sense or not, but they do say that the One World Trade Center is the tallest "building" in the Western hemisphere--and it does have a huge spire! So I'm totally baffled that this video claims there are no megatall skyscrapers in New York in 2020 (it's supposed to measure over 1,700 feet in height--of course, that includes the spire!) and, after all, really, how much of those 1,770-odd feet can the spire really take up...? 🤔

[@luuketaylor]

My favorite channel, back again :) The final point about the Freedom Tower made complete sense and now I no longer wonder why there are no taller structures!

[@Funny_hampter1]

after 9/11 i would not wanna have a tall skyscraper anywhere anymore since i have PTSD watching those towers and people fall to the ground and i wouldnt want that to happen anywhere else. rest in peace to the people who died in 9/11, this is why we cant have nice things :(

[@killernat1234]

One day there will be a mega tall skyscraper in New York, mark my words

[@HorribleSonofa]

Las Vegas, man. Desert real estate and tourism cravings.

[@criticalhard]

Absolutely with no doubt and it'll be alive, full of people not empty in the middle of nowhere lmao

[@aznmozez2214]

Empire State Building 2

[@nirvanafan500]

Mega tall twin towers

[@Student0Toucher]

New York is good how it is, I think mega towers should be built in other growing. Cities

[@PhilippRothenberger]

Can you do more explaining on how air rights work? Seemed a bit brief for the complexity of the topic!

[@AgathaLOutahere]

Community opposition and lawsuits will always prevent the construction of supertalls in NYC. It took years just to begin proper redevelopment of the WTC site.

[@eduardtokaryev7948]

The main reasons for skyscrapers were: residential and office. With the internet you can now work from home and you don't need to pay people to stay in a building. Residential is not needed because you don't need to live in close proximity to work or shops anymore. You can order everything online.

[@nafnaf0]

Yeah those are valid points. I still think there will be a mile high (1600 meters) skyscraper in New York before the end of the century

[@yuridouche6195]

What a fucking boring piece of shit existence that would be. There are plenty of reasons to live in a densely built city beyond where you work and where you sleep. It's about everything that happens in between.

[@sethdrake7551]

SpaceX Starship 2 be like: "yeah so what if we launched a supertall skyscraper into orbit"

[@robertofernandez4455]

NYC Is so amazing. So many buildings, so many styles. Only Chicago can rival it in this categroy. You might have taller buildings in other places. But the mix found in this two places is just unrivaled. I hope the pandemic doesn't cease the trend it was before.

[@blast4me754]

I guess you haven't seen the cities in China because they make Chicago and NYC look outdated..

[@AsiaMinor12]

​@@blast4me754 not really. Only some do. Many Chinese cities don't have a skyline that can compare to new York city.

[@james_loney]

Thank you. A really impressive explanation of why NYC doesn't try to out do 'them all'....it could, of course. Our little Gotham is now a bit over 400 years old, about twice the age of the Republic which she defends and represents to the world. Covid has exacted a terrible price from The City but she will stand and flame forever, as long as the Republic stands.

[@thatnikkakris2339]

Very poetic

[@sebastianrosa7935]

Trust me, New Yorkers would rather keep the sentimentality of the Freedom Tower being the tallest in the city then building its own megatower. Also nobody wants to wait 150 years for the thing to actually get built.

[@alliegottuso734]

Starting the day strong. Love from the US

[@emp437]

400 likes. 0 dislikes. Nice

[@funnybee2598]

Fun fact; you can’t breath while smiling Joking, just wanted to make you smile for a second 😃.

[@NovaBoi7]

WHY YOU

[@nilocblue]

This is one of my favourite channels on KZbin.

[@Pardies007]

Air rights? I’ve never heard of such a thing like that 😂. I’m learning something new everyday in this channel. Great job guys. Always delivering top quality content.

[@TheB1M]

Haha, you're welcome! Thanks so much for the great feedback on our work!!

[@rangergun]

Yes air rights are a thing here in NYC, the faster way to get them to just to buy the building or land next to where you want to build. but many times another Bigger building already owns them. but once you own the air rights you can sell the smaller building/land and keep the air rights.

[@joermnyc]

@@rangergun air rights has become a game, say what you will about Trump, he figured out how to do it right. There’s a building at 200 Amsterdam Avenue that got caught cheating, got taken to court by the neighborhood after already topping out. The developers lost their case, and the Judge ordered them to remove a good amount of already completed upper floors... literally got cut down to size.

[@visionist7]

@@joermnyc the judge's decision was overruled last I heard. The building is almost complete - to its original planned height.

[@joermnyc]

@@visionist7 it's actually still under appeal, but the city is allowing them to finish construction.

[@ricey6667]

So basically nobody wants to see a mega-tall skyscraper in New York except for the tourists that go there. XD

[@emfraza7953]

It's untrue that Central Park Tower scrapped the spire because of "vast public outcry", very few in the public even knew what was planned there before the final design was published, it's most likely value-engineering that eliminated it. The day will come when the 1776' WTC1 spire is exceeded, but it has nothing to do with public opinion and everything to do with cost and practicality on a given site. I'm a native NY'er and can't recall ever having a conversation with anybody about keeping 1 WTC as the tallest, it's really a non-issue and an urban myth. Also, we don't call it the "Freedom Tower", only people from outside the city ever refer to it as that and you won't find that term anywhere on or in the building.

[@nonmagicmike723]

It's mostly about status and esthetics. One of the main purposes of such skyscrapers is to make a given city or area more interesting/attractive (and thus more desirable and valuable) by increasing its status and making it a greater eye candy for people who'd live around it or would want to visit it.

[@Norwegian733]

Not in NY. Its about the price of land. In order to make it an economic investment, you had to build tall in NY and other big city centers. In the middle east and China, its more about status. They often dont care even to money out of these projects. That attitude will never happen in a western country with private money and investments.

[@nonmagicmike723]

@@Norwegian733 Every major city in the US has tall buildings. It's clearly a choice. These cities would have nowhere near the same status and gravitas if they didn't have such tremendous skylines. So while it's an economic investment for private entities, for the city itself, choosing to zone large swathes of its areas for tall buildings is a status choice to make itself stand out.

[@valt1337]

short story.. because: - legislation (strict regulations: floor area ratio equation) - costs too high - low availability of land to build on - NY is one of the most expensive cities to build in (several hundreds of $ per square feet built than middle east) - no demand there.. saved you 6 mins

[@Andrew-bj5kx]

Those supertalls in NYC were also killing people. Last winter around Christmas (before the pandemic), ice kept forming on the tops of the construction and then blowing off and skewering people on 59th St. adjacent to Central Park. They had to block the streets and pedestrians had to stay away from one side of the street. It was wet, and that's where the death ice was falling. It was kind of a creepy no-man's zone. Very unsettling walking through.

[@harshverma3737]

New York is already so expensive. Guess what would be the apartment prices in those mega skyscrappers🥶

[@nasifsiddiquey8867]

Not much. Luxury real estate prices have been going down in Manhattan because there's way more than there are people actually buying them. Adding even more would seriously drive down the price. Developers wouldn't make profit in a reasonable amount of time. Also, there's a higher need for affordable housing here. I think instead of just building new tall buildings, we replace already existing ones to at least 150m in usable height.

[@emmanuelsamuels2470]

They scared of my pilot skills

[@g.w.f.212]

ALLAHU AKBAR

[@Steve-zc9ht]

LMAOOOO 😂

[@AfsanaAmerica]

There are some skyscrapers around the world that are taller than the ones in New York but the skyscrapers in New York are most loved. I think as the tall buildings get bigger it gets made into several separate buildings. The real height of empire state building is enormous if it was all stacked up.

[@TheZekeZeke1]

I didn't realize how much taller the "Mega Tall" skyscrapers were than regular skyscrapers.. That shit is silly

[@TheThomasBlack]

No one here in New York would ever say the word Megatall. Let’s start there.

[@someguitardude8462]

Simple. Megatall Skyscrapers are a vanity project. Often times the last 300 meters of the tower are barely usable. New York's buildings need to use every inch of space available, so building *tall enough* is better than building tallest

[@georgealexander141]

New York is like “Been there. Done that“.

[@kingslayerx1716]

Bruh

[@alexbarnes6065]

Yet another great video! Would you mind adding height measurements in feet (not just in meters) for future videos though? Especially when focusing on an American city, it's a lot of mental math for us to constantly convert!

[@bigfish7493]

Yes, this narrator is a master of cadence and enunciations. Hopefully he may explain a video to us based upon Haiti's Capital City Port-au-Prince. There's so much to be said about the gorgeous concreted-over mountains, the superb in-city sanitation system, the expansive treed parks and the gorgeous "steel Market". He will bring music to our ears when describing the Champs des Mars, Rue Pan Americaine, the beautiful Bicentenaire along the city's waterfront. There is so much for this Narrator to describe! Certainly we'll be hearing from him again very soon.

[@drakehater]

I was thinking about making a 9/11 joke but never mind

[@Steve-zc9ht]

Someone already made one saying there afraid of my pilot skill lmao 😂

[@mpaulm]

I suppose this is why Europe doesn’t do it either.

[@TartarianTopG]

They have a video on that too

[@tescomealdeals4613]

basically because good architecture is good

[@nombre1248]

europe is a lot of sight line and zoning rules

[@soonerproud]

If it happens in Europe it'll be in Moscow. They already have the highest skyscrapers in Europe , The Federation Tower at 374 m (1,227 ft).

[@terr1x-161]

We don't want any skyscrapers here in Europe

[@marvwatkins7029]

No one remembers FLW's Chicago Mile High Building concept: so totally opposite from his horizontal Prairie Style.

[@zacabdul420]

There's a few megatall structures in my city Kuala Lumpur, but I still love NYC.

[@kauzeylive5598]

Yea the Cesar Pelli designed tower

[@itsgenious1817]

Only one: the merdeka tower, and guess what, without its spire it’s 520m so it isn’t a mega tall at the end of the day

[@maxinator2002]

Haven’t even watched yet just wanted an early comment

[@MatthewStinar]

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[@mohammedshahir2816]

nice to watch this from my balcony, where I can clearly see the worlds tallest building, beautiful

[@yuridouche6195]

Too bad it's in a shit hole like Dubai.

[@khumothage4629]

Waiting for Gentrifiers to pop up a tall one in Harlem.

[@AgniFirePunch]

Good. It doesnt belong to you people go back to your own continent if you hate us so much. I don't want to live near you either

[@khumothage4629]

@@AgniFirePunch Cool.

[@mariokingtana6399]

Isn’t it kinda ironic that nyc limits itself and how big their buildings can get in the name of a building called the freedom tower? “This building stands for freedom so therefore none of your buildings can dare be taller than mines”

[@davidpark761]

It's because it's seen as disrespectful to overshadow a tower that is seen as a monument to post 9/11 resiliency of New Yorkers and victims of 9/11

[@kresimirmilisa5560]

very nice video about new york city.

[@synthiandrakon]

The reality is there is almost never a good reason to build that tall