Why There is a Giant Floating Prison In New York City

[@salvatoremaglione6398]

Planes. They are boats if the sea was dry.

[@propergander8509]

Don’t tell Wendover Production

[@ElValuador]

Boats wouldn’t float if the sea was dry.

[@endig4501]

@@ElValuador Taking the shotgun approach to low-effort trolling, huh? Try harder.

[@ElValuador]

@@endig4501 Space shuttles. They are planes but in space.

[@baksatibi]

Seaplanes. They are like upside-down submarines if the sea was dry.

[@jacksonhelgevold6073]

The line graph “Average Daily Jail Population in NYC” at time stamp (3:31/5:51) has an error in the x axis. It starts with the year “1888” and not “1988” as it should. You’re welcome :)

[@cowboyhank456]

I thought it was just a joke

[@Bremend]

Logarithmic scale for the first unit, clearly...

[@matteovillella1482]

Yeah: someone else realized too! There should also be a break in the graph I think.

[@joshuareidsound8985]

are you sure it should? Is the graph still correct with it reading 1888? Do you know?

[@CB____]

@@joshuareidsound8985 In the video he literally says “30 years ago back in the late 80s..” it was meant to read 1988

[@AlexOfTheWoods99]

Arguably Australia was just one big prison boat

[@Pablo_the_hedgehog]

Lol

[@SimokVI]

Sadly, a vote has yet to be passed to close it down...

[@notfiction9241]

It would be, but everyone knows that Australia doesn’t exist.

[@ElValuador]

@@Stevie-J A tyrannical island full of scared sheep.

[@frigginjerk]

It's only arguable because Australia isn't actually real.

[@alexanderklee6357]

0:11 the pictures shows the “diamond princess“ notable for having a gastroenteritis outbreak in 2016 and a Covid-19 outbreak in January 2020. The latter of whom resulted in the ship and all passengers being quarantined for nearly a month.

[@adolfilyichmarx9589]

Princess is an old people cruise line.

[@groundedgaming]

Very funny, HAI...

[@maknyc1539]

lol

[@marclapin]

never heard of the 2016 one

[@ronnycook3569]

"There's nothing more permanent than a temporary solution" - from ~30 years working in system admin & tech support. Temporary solutions tend to be implemented quickly, then renewed indefinitely because it's much less work to just keep the patch-up job running. This explains a great deal about the state of computer software, but I'm sure we can all come up with real-world examples. Waaay too many real-world examples.

[@User31129]

Highway paving

[@ronnycook3569]

@@User31129 Yeah, the patching of potholes was the first real-world example that I thought of as well (aside from the prison barge.) But you can find this EVERYWHERE.

[@EdgyShooter]

This is why my departments roof flooded. About 30 years ago they were told it could be fixed permanently for x amount or temporary repaired each year for a smaller amount, can you guess which they went for?

[@ckl9390]

I've heard a reportedly Russian saying that is essentially the same thing.

[@iconofthicc6086]

KZbin dislikes…

[@earnestbrown6524]

In the USN if your ship was in the shipyard we had a berthing barge nearby. It was home to all the services that the ship could no longer support. Things like admin, medical, galley and where the Duty section slept. It was not fun.

[@SPOcepSS]

On subs even that didn’t matter, still slept onboard for duty

[@ElValuador]

Thank you for your service.

[@MegaGun2000]

Statements like these reaffirm my beliefs that I will never be military potential haha

[@sophia-helenemeesdetricht1957]

The berthing barge was generally threadbare, temperatures fluctuated frequently and violently, reefer units rarely worked, and the heads (the bathrooms) were insufficient in basically every respect. And this is coming from someone whose first ship was a warship so old and busted, they couldn't sell it off, so they used it as target practice.

[@patrickmattin9609]

@@Stevie-J Yeah that's about right, but without the gym, and a little nicer. On the bright side, only had to sleep there once or twice a week.

[@givrally7634]

"Why is this temporary measure still open ?" Because the government has a history of making temporary measures that are actually permanent. Sales tax amirite ?

[@alexkaplan6581]

Income tax, the patriot act, gun control, violations of habeas corpus, etc.

[@User31129]

I would totally have my income tax raised to have the sales tax canceled. Sales tax is charged equally to both the poor and the rich. And the poor spend almost all their income, while the rich dont.

[@OnlyFlans42]

@@alexkaplan6581 covid regulations...

[@alexkaplan6581]

@@User31129 State versus fed. Apples to oranges, unless you live in a regressive shithole like California that double dips.

[@bigcrowfly]

Major omission: Left out the real reason why not closed and will never be until an additional prison is built. The correction workers union wont let it close and city workers unions control who gets elected to all elected offices in the city.

[@Sammie1053]

ugh, fuckin' law enforcement unions ruining NYC once again

[@FUnzzies1]

@@Sammie1053 where did the mean police man arrest you?

[@toahero5925]

@@Sammie1053 Democrats have spent years telling workers that they need to unionize and band together to ensure better treatment. Can you really blame NY police for doing what their city and state governments recommended?

[@Steelerebecca92]

@@toahero5925 do you really think that cop and correctional worker unions are remotely a new thing?

[@toahero5925]

@@Steelerebecca92 Of course not, but it kinda undermines progressive praise for unionization and workers' rights when they turn around and badmouth police unions for protecting their members.

[@exiledparsons5002]

The Average Daily Jail Population graph has a typo; It says 1888 rather than 1988.

[@nelsoncorreia7293]

Good eye, noticed that too

[@andrewgoenner120]

I didn't know if this meant to be a joke but the line graph from 3:29 to 4:04 starts at 1888 and not 1988.

[@andrewshorts1198]

I noticed that too

[@FrozenBusChannel]

Another item for yearly mistakes video

[@y.s.miller4109]

FYI: Koch, in this instance, rhymes with Scotch.

[@fyang1429]

Surely a good thing otherwise it would pronounce the same as the last name of the father of modern bacteriology

[@dannydaw59]

So it's not pronounced as "Coke" ?

[@mrmoose6619]

@@dannydaw59 Not for the former People's Court Judge and former NYC Mayor

[@dominiccaragiulo6379]

I felt really dumb for a second.

[@danielsavitz5774]

@@dannydaw59 It is for the Koch Brothers, but not for former mayor Ed Koch

[@tryxdc]

wendover is in tears. you started this video with pretty much the exact opposite of a plane

[@samiraperi467]

Ah yes, a temporary measure. Just like car tax was here, back in 1958. Nothing is as permanent as a temporary measure.

[@NoJusticeNoPeace]

Here in Canada we're still paying the "temporary" surcharge on phone service for switching to touch tone from pulse dial.

[@4kChannel]

Nothing is more permanent than a temporary government program Milton Friedman

[@ssjjshawn]

Oh yes like other temporary things in the USA like: Sales Tax The FBI The CIA The Patriot Act Giant Monopolies The Military Industrial Complex

[@baliyae]

I didn’t know there was a prison boat in New York until I saw this video. Thank you for sharing. I learned something new today.

[@benjaminsletten9434]

@@Stevie-J and bricks

[@atonysomething]

@@Stevie-J that's called a sponsorship

[@nathanielcaspari275]

@3:51 the chart says 1888, I think it's supposed to be 1988.

[@roflchopter11]

Arguably the earth is just one big prison spaceship

[@YoussefAhmed-jd5zu]

Probably less then 100 people escaped this prison out of a population of 7 billion ,it seems pretty effective.

[@thecrapadventuresofchesimo420]

If I've learned anything about temporary measures, it's that they're almost invariably permanent, doesn't matter if it's New York or anywhere else with humans. The reason is simple: The temporary measure makes the problem a thing to solve later, so other things then take priority (ie finding), then later comes, the cheapest solution is then to extend the temporary measure.

[@ninjabiatch101]

" Boats, they're like planes for if the sky was wet." I also enjoy mushrooms.

[@lifeguardpanda]

As a former Staten islander, I can confirm this is very true but the ferry bathrooms are truly the worse thing in the world

[@unscenegamers]

3:30 1888 skips to 1990, big gap in a little graph

[@ghimbrilp]

4:04, graphs labelled wrongly to 1888 instead of 1988 :P

[@NoJusticeNoPeace]

What a lot of people seem to have forgotten is that Giulliani was on his way to prison. He had been using a fleet of buses to shuttle homeless people from shelter to shelter across New York to make them less visible by spreading them out, which also trapped them in homelessness by preventing them from getting jobs, contacting landlords, or connecting with social services. A judge ruled this was a violation of civil rights and ordered Giulliani to stop -- which he completely ignored. A judge had just ruled Giulliani in contempt of court when 9/11 happened and everything was quietly swept under the rug, because the civil rights of a bunch of smelly poor people were much less important than waving a patriotic flag.

[@ElValuador]

Cry more

[@notfiction9241]

I see nothing wrong with any of this. Yay flag waving.

[@fica1137]

@@ElValuador Cope

[@ElValuador]

@@fica1137 🥴

[@NoJusticeNoPeace]

@@ElValuador Tribalism is dumb. All it does is show you're incapable of critical thought, and in the absence of the ability to think, you just take Great White Father's views as holy doctrine. It results in ridiculous self-harm from arguments about things like basic medical hygiene during a worldwide pandemic, ecological devastation from climate change, or -- as in this case -- the elimination of civil rights meant to protect _everyone_ from abuse.

[@lnnx3725]

Half as interesting always makes my day slightly more interesting, thanks Sam

[@patrickracer43]

"HAI's Crime Spree" a.k.a Sam is trying to get on one of those prison planes

[@TravisRiver]

VCBC closed this month. I volunteered there the last year: it was crowded, open rooms with ~60 beds, and had free windows. In incarcerated folks were largely shipped off to Rikers.

[@jason_ityk]

You can't wiki Ed Koch and learn that his name is pronounced KOTCH and not COKE?

[@metallicarchaea1820]

You can actually see that boat, Riker's Island and even North and South Brother Islands from the NYC Ferry that runs to and from the Bronx Soundview Ferry port on Classon Point. There is also a gated community there.

[@EdgyShooter]

I mean, I would hope a prison had gates 😉

[@metallicarchaea1820]

@@EdgyShooter Haha, good one!

[@kaatwangsnoisebunker775]

Just remember Ed Koch rhymes with crotch. Do that and I will forgive you about the graph starting in 1888.

[@gogglespisano24]

His name is pronounced Ko-TCH not Ko-KE like the Koch brothers.

[@nathanielstanford3115]

Jail and prison are not the same thing. Ed Koch is pronounced like it's spelled. And prison populations increased from the 60s to the 80s because crime quadrupled. Not sure why you compare this to slave ships, and not to the prison ship martyrs which is much more topical for New York.

[@FUnzzies1]

He's a leftist. He doesn't care about facts.

[@tolep]

This is the best Nebula bait I've ever seen.

[@ArtOfficialKreations]

Nobody “lives” in the East River, so I guess, technically, that’s correct; but plenty of people who ran afoul of the many decades of NYC mob bosses do, indeed, _rest_ there though..

[@AC-im4hi]

Bro really compared putting people in jail for committing crimes to abducting, torturing and working to death innocent people. I get it was supposed to be a joke but really?

[@henrymarks2237]

It’s a jail, not a prison, so many of the people there have not been convicted for anything.

[@joeryan1153]

There used to be a prison ship in Belfast Harbour in the 1970's. It was called HMP Maidstone. One night a few inmates dived into the harbour and escaped. It didn't last too much longer after that.

[@renderproductions1032]

5:18 all I have to say is NO. I want that show.

[@leobarnes4593]

4:01 You labelled 1988 as 1888

[@leobarnes4593]

i will be disliking the video because of this

[@Elbrasch]

3:50 : seems to start at 1880 ;)

[@jbjba12345]

the prison graph starting at 3:30 starts with "1888" instead of "1988" by the by

[@josephlombardi9726]

Long time viewer , first time caller ... I’m from NYC (SI actually) and I totally approve of this episode on every level. Wendover /HAI keep it gully

[@daandanx]

This sounds like the typical plot to a bad anime

[@romulusnr]

Bain Correctional Center has been in the same place for so long that Google Maps literally has a 3D model of it

[@jasperdoyle443]

00:08 The Diamond Princess joke at the beginning 💀💀💀

[@Realitycheck18]

3:31.. I though when Sam said late 80s it was 1980s, but looks like it was late 1880s.. Damn! For over a century Rikers has been super occupied.

[@CardplayerLifestyle]

Hate to be "that guy", but the former NY mayor's name (Koch) is pronounced like "botch", or "scotch"... definitely not like "Coke" 🙂

[@deadly_golem]

wait... is the crime spree show actually gonna be a thing? was he serious?

[@naturallyflorida9052]

That's what i wanna know

[@kevincronk7981]

Wait ryker's island is a real thing? It seemed like such a stupid idea I was sure it was just made up for spiderman, along with the raft.

[@this51man]

It's real. Built on landfill with only a bridge to go in or out. Also next to another landfill called LGA airport lol

[@pieal7368]

3:33 I like how the graph starts at 1888

[@Uufda651]

Is that an actual show because I'm actually interested

[@CalderaFinance]

Suspending the gold standard was supposed to be temporary as well.

[@atti_tube]

3:44 another one for the HAI error record books

[@I-Teee]

The biggest takeaway from this video is the soft-on-crime approach by 2026. This has proven, especially in the last year, to be nothing but successful and amazing for property values, UCR crime trends, recidivism, and resident retention. Well done!

[@anasevi9456]

lmao, too right! LA-NY-Chicago and the Bay Area are so vibrant and safe compared to the 2000s, totally not degrading filthy crime infested sh!tholes that both small and big business are fleeing.

[@jmtz3149]

Are you serious?

[@alexkaplan6581]

Someone go find that video of the L.A. railyard. Seems to fit here.

[@ElValuador]

Everyone hates prisons/jails until they, or someone they love, is a victim of crime.

[@xp8969]

It might have something to do with the fact that the vast majority of people locked up in this country are there for non-violent victimless crimes while all the worst criminals in are walking around free working on Wall Street and in our government

[@ElValuador]

@@xp8969 It might but it’s not. Glad I’m living in your head like Giuliani🤣

[@jakem6720]

0:10 That's a throwback.

[@theeutecticpoint]

"which was built on the foundation of a landfill"- caught me by surprise, funny

[@meh12345HEY]

"Having mayors that suck" *Shows brand new mayor of NYC*... Well, someone isn't happy with the election results. At least he rides the subway instead of being driven across midtown?

[@4kChannel]

The man just got elected

[@georgewuzheer]

someone doesn't like cops lmao

[@meh12345HEY]

@@georgewuzheer well, that person certainly isn't Mayor Adams...

[@wesleywilson6366]

I love how the Guinness text is all 10000% gibberish @ 0:35 seconds lol

[@strawberyyicecreamdream216]

Sam you are being a bit unclear here. In the US at least jails and prisons are different things and you really did confuse me a bit going back and forth between the two. A jail is a temporary holding, ran by the local municipal goverment, a prison is ran by the state and houses felons. Since you compared this to Rikers Island it is a jail.

[@jpe1]

You are *technically* correct (seen by dweebs and dorks across the interwebs as the *best kind* of correct). Of course real people in day-to-day conversations don’t make any distinction between the two words, using them interchangeably, like “car” and “automobile” or “streetcar” and “trolley” so I very much doubt that you were actually confused 😉

[@strawberyyicecreamdream216]

@@jpe1 In my experience they totally do make the distinction which is why I found it notable enough to comment and mention. I understand that he's talking about a jail, but they aren't interchangeable and I expect him to mention it in his next mistake compilation or I will riot.

[@bleepbloop7812]

It's Ed Koch, Ko-"ch". He was the Judge on people's court from 97-99 theres videos on KZbin you can reference for pronunciation.... Did I do it? Do I make the Mistakes video at the end of the year? Also, The new series looks awesome!

[@User31129]

If someone mispronounces their own name, are they wrong?

[@HurricaneCook]

Sam, we love you, but can someone on the staff of HAI please take like, 20 seconds, and when a word that can be pronounced a few ways just search KZbin for it? If you type in Ed Koch (pronounced "kotch") into KZbin's search, the first video that comes up is a New York Times piece about his death, and a whopping 19 seconds in, they say his name. 3.9 out of 5 stars.

[@yousefashmeh1468]

Wish you all the best in that spree, Sam💚 I wish I could watch it but , you know, here in Syria it's somewhat hard to get 15$/year and a reliable internet connection.

[@bradroberts1462]

Bibby Resolution and Bibby Venture we're initially used to house British soldiers in the Falklands after the Falklands War in 1982

[@Etaripamai47]

Holy crap is that how you pronounce Ed koch's name? I've been pronouncing it kotch like crotch but not.

[@paigebradbury6746]

The Stefan SNL reference already made this video 10/10

[@yaacovdavidowitz4502]

Btw, Ed Koch’s name is pronounced the way it sounds not Coke, like the rich brothers. Also, Hunts Point is still not gentrified

[@theexchipmunk]

HaI: New Show! Me: Great! HaI: But only on nebula! Me, a student that barely can afford to life: Well, guess I'll never see it! (I know, you also need to pay your bills, but its still sad that I cannot watch all that cool stuff for the next years because I simply cannot afford that.)

[@tcg1_qc]

Same

[@supermaster2012]

it's like 12 bucks for a year, cmon dude don't be a begger.

[@InvagPrune]

@@supermaster2012 sam did specifically say that if you can't afford to sponsor him (e.g. you're a student) then you shouldn't

[@supermaster2012]

@@InvagPrune my point is that who the fuck can't afford 12 bucks a year c'mon.

[@southpineshooligan]

1:57 that's immediately where my brain went when I clicked this video - I was like and the irony

[@flakgun153]

Hunts point is still basically the scariest place in all of NYC

[@summit-development]

Congratulations on 2 mil.

[@dy9955]

"This prison sucks." IT'S PRISON, NOT DISNEYLAND.

[@markrothenbuhler6232]

New Jerseyan chiming in here: Mayor Koch rhymes with scotch, not stoke.

[@Seagaltalk]

But now we are finding out why just putting less people in prison without any other cahnges just leads to criminals getting to get away with commiting crimes and thus continue to commit crimes.

[@kfair3331]

Good job on 2 million subs!!!

[@Uufda651]

"Really sea sick and also regular sick- and also starved."

[@2feetaguywith]

I wouldn't mind the politics of you were fair. The jails were built and crime went down in the city. When the city jail pop goes down, the crime goes up, like now.

[@ysquaredyobozo]

Small mistake on your graph at 4:00, the leftmost year is 1888, when i assume its supposed to be 1988, given you said 30 years ago

[@firstlast446]

Ah the year just 2 before 1990, 1888.

[@russellg5022]

Giant Floating Prison In New York City... so... Manhattan?

[@YgramNolles]

Id love to see that show but i dont have a creditcard and neither do my parents:(

[@f-86zoomer37]

How's the crime going in New York though? Okay, so let's put less criminals in prison. So now where do the criminals go then?

[@ripwednesdayadams]

This is a nightmare. I had no idea this even existed.

[@Where2bub]

I know it was the 80's but we never had a mayor "coke" its ed koch, like scotch

[@TheOnlyNoIan]

that's a weird way to describe LaGuardia

[@Greg8872]

What was that mayors name? Could be worse, could be like that episode of News Radio where Matthew mispronnced Buttafuoco's name... LOL

[@iamjustaviewer6416]

Aren't planes technicaly air submarines?

[@Henk14789]

Pretty sure the prison on the boat could easily fit on the parking lot

[@_dood]

Hey HAI! I want to recommend a video idea that would be really cool! My question is, how many new years can you celebrate in an year, by abusing time zones? I know you probably won't read this, so I am going to paste it on more of your videos :) (#1)

[@tinnagigja3723]

That stock video prisoner's shoes have some nice hangin' laces there...

[@wanali4504]

Congrats HAI on 2mil!

[@sprouts5535]

As a Staten Island resident it’s a prison cause you have to pay pretty much every way to leave the island

[@tobiwan001]

100 cells for 870 inmates? That‘s f***ed up.

[@jefflaufer9091]

Shout out to the random guy who was filmed in a stock video in an orange jumpsuit looking sad in a jail cell.

[@rogerdickens6218]

New York City is the giant floating prison.

[@TXnine7nine]

1:12 Carnival has some competition there 😂

[@itsdweezy]

Cars. They are basically planes if the air was road.

[@mrseaweed1000]

We’ll be seeing that graph in the annual mistakes video 😎

[@LeveyHere]

Oh this is literally a prison boat? For a moment I thought it was just gonna talk about Rikers Island

[@shinobiwan3107]

Will always thumbs up any video that throws shade at Staten Island.

[@opdjasin]

I think the location of the floating prison in the thumbnail is slightly wrong. It was on the other side of Bronx river, literally next to the big island.

[@quasarsavage]

so maybe this ends by 2026? nice and efficient guys

[@Rhaman68]

Dear HAI, a bit of grammar. Try “gigantic” vs “giant” in the headline. As to “there IS 3 basketball courts” it’s a common vernacular error. “There ARE 3 basketball courtS” as “courtS” is plural! Thanks