Why This Gold Heist Changed Security Forever

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[@stallionsLP]

I like the moment when he actually explained how security changed after the heist happened.

[@insane_troll]

That is when they started putting gold in vaults. Before then they would just leave it lying around.

[@forrestbehr8778]

Yes, I also wondered (14 minutes later) how security was changed forever...a question I will now take to my grave (seem like there's a lot of that going on around here).

[@lostcoastnomad479]

In fairness he did post why, not how.

[@Martcapt]

​@Insane Troll surely, in the 60's that was a wild concept. Everyone knows of the vault development that took place in the 90's

[@oentrepreneur]

Do you have the attention span of a goldfish?

[@HeisenbergFam]

If you get caught doing heist, you better call Saul, he is a good man, great lawyer

[@DignityForAllyt]

True I do this all the time 🤣

[@RegularHOOMAN]

waltuh

[@landboat1]

​@@RegularHOOMAN put your phone away waltuh. The planes about to take off waltuh

[@presmasterflash7555]

Isn’t that the guy who got Ronnie Dobbs off on all charges?

[@CatoTheElder-]

When the going gets tough, you don't want a criminal lawyer. You want a *criminal* lawyer.

[@MasterBlaster3545]

The book that came out a few years later was a great read. You could still probably buy it.

[@jamesstead2256]

Rather Steal it

[@Lopfff]

@@jamesstead2256Beat me to it

[@halonova8995]

I haven't watched this channel in YEARS. This is like a nostalgia trip. I'm glad I happened to find it again by accident.

[@OlafVonBarto]

I'd be great to see a movie adaptation of this heist in the style of Guy Ritchie.

[@virtualcity721]

Here kzbin.info/www/bejne/m6e6dqiMh5aLf9U

[@taddoe3694]

It’s very close to the plot of the series Snatch, both the first and second seasons.

[@chiefdenis]

@@taddoe3694 snatch was a movie wasn't it? A great one too

[@tumslucks9781]

@@chiefdenis The part in the middle was clever when the object hits the cars windscreen and Brad Pitt was very convinving as a pikey but the movie itself was average.

[@gameplaykingz9545]

100%

[@Furinawillcomehome]

Why the hell is that just 3 tons of gold sitting there! I swear people can be so careless.

[@anon_y_mousse]

6 hours later you realize why it was sitting in the open, the people who should have put it in the vault were lazy.

[@matthewthomas7674]

This video is like a long trailer to an awesome british crime movie

[@cillianmclaverty9392]

A tv series about it came out like a month or two ago called “the gold”

[@jaylaw5969]

​@@cillianmclaverty9392 called The Curse. Loosely based on this me thinks

[@steveross8364]

It's not what you can steal, it's what you can get away with stealing. ~ Rishi Sunak

[@rustomkanishka]

He's a c--t. If anyone eggs him or anything else, it's not racist, it's just returning the favour of class warfare.

[@alexsmith-gn4tp]

& Keir Starmer allowed Asian Muslim child rap!sts to get away with it when he was Director of Public Prosecutions !

[@bretsimpson9890]

😂😂😂

[@TimSedai]

Now I want a full biography of Palmer lol

[@Prellium]

There's a couple of good books about him, absolutely bananas story.

[@senorscross5824]

He is still a legend in the south part of the island of Tenerife after all this years, even loved by the politicians

[@dontrend5956]

@@senorscross5824 And you know why they loved him.

[@senorscross5824]

@@dontrend5956 well, he came to a soon to develope tourist area, and he brought tons of money! He bought tons of real estate properties and you can't guess how much he paid in taxes and or bribes

[@dontrend5956]

@@senorscross5824 Bribes for sure.

[@KilledByThatTrain]

When I was a kid, I grabbed an extra cookie from the cookie jar without my mom noticing… luckiest heist ever!

[@andoletube]

I used to steal my mum's oat cookies on a regular basis. They labelled me a cereal thief...

[@KilledByThatTrain]

@@andoletube 🤣🤣🤣

[@garymcatear822]

When i was a kid we never had a cookie jar or biscuit jar (UK here) we had thousands of biscuits in our house because my dad used to bring box loads of McVities and other brand home with him. He worked as a sleeping carraige attendant at the old British rail and would serve these little packs of 3 0r 4 biscuits to customers, any left over i got 😀

[@peterjohncooper]

Those of us who are of a certain age and live in the UK probably know the story of Brinks Mat. But here you put it together neatly and succinctly in the usual Thoughty2 style. Well done.

[@katekrylov]

When planning my own heist (soon, people, soon!), I will turn for the recipe to Thoughty2 stories.

[@TheElbowMerchant]

I believe in you! You can't go wrong with Thoughty2's secret recipe for heisting gone right.

[@Vee_of_the_Weald]

If you need a hand, you know where to find me.

[@puppetguy8726]

I think the "curse" is criminality. Had they given up crime after the heist was all over I think they'd've had easier lives.

[@cbandit7715]

Your content is gold tier lol. I love the crazy obscure hsitroy stories youd never hear

[@sonicboom4948]

The editing keeps getting better each video, loved the transitions and animation tweaks to the regular video style

[@whatisart2337]

Editing, background sounds and visuals keep improving from video to video without loosing the thoughty2 feel. Awesome work

[@eskykitty]

man i always appreciate your videos so much! you and your team are amazing and you guys are so of the best on youtube

[@kerryarrant1523]

Jolly good show mate! Thanks a million boxtops for your interesting stories.

[@PatrickImboden]

Another great one! Thx!

[@vickiewallace415]

Arran, LOVE THE CHANNEL AND LOVE THE AUDIBLE BOOK AS WELL!!

[@SoonGone]

Excellent episode. Well done laddo 👍😁

[@Gemini540]

Genuinely learn more from this man than I ever did in school. Would love to see his take on 9/11

[@RegularHOOMAN]

My take on 9/11 is plane ✈️ hit tower 🏙

[@Gemini540]

@H00MAN I mean, you're not wrong 😅 but I mean the conspiracies and finer details :) just an interesting controversial topic that I think would be a good watch in Arrans stule

[@cosmicdebris42]

He would get kicked off of J**Pube. Thats why.

[@RegularHOOMAN]

@@Gemini540 ha yeah I’d like to see him do it too

[@mattslade1633]

I worked at Johnson Mathey in UK for 12 years and never, I've known of the heist since I was a nipper but never did I ever know they were connected... wow thank you.

[@Julius37]

Love your channel!

[@howly6440]

"Hey 42 here" never gets old

[@n1shant181]

This gonna blow up. I hope

[@x.SE7EN.x314]

do you mean THOUGHTY 2

[@mikespearwood3914]

Look at the channel name Howly.👍

[@anon_y_mousse]

No matter how often I hear it, as many years later as I've been watching him, it still sounds like 42.

[@Puddspanker]

​@Anony Mousse he purposefully makes it sounds like 42

[@Astrocicada]

3:31 I like your definition of polite.🤣🤣🤣

[@theklaus7436]

If there was a price for best story telling. I would vote for you. As you know I’m a neard for knowledge like you. And it’s seldom I haven’t heard anything from your stories. Keep them coming

[@GeorgieKeen]

Good Stuff! - Thanks Dude

[@AlexandraStarr1974]

I love me some gold! Been buying gold for years now as a long term hedge, mostly gold sovereigns, gold bars and 1oz coins, but I also love gold jewellery, big heavy rope chains, diamond cut for extra bling! Brinks Mat story is fascinating, and while watching the video, as I fondled my necklace, I wondered if you would mention most gold jewellery now contains some gold from the robbery, which you eventually did, nice! But gold, wow, it is mesmerising, so beautiful, I never tire of looking at it or hearing that lovely ringing sound as gold coins slide over each other in ones hand, so hypnotic and gorgeous ❤

[@mattm5941]

Jez dude it’s just a metal relax 😭😭😭

[@AlexandraStarr1974]

@@mattm5941 Not just any mental, its a precious metal, so the value ofthe price of gold never really dips, it just gains more value over time, unlike money, which is worth absolutely fuck all any more... where gold just increases in value year on year, just in the last 24 hours gold has risen by 1.5%, in just 24 hours???? So no matter how much money you have in your bank account, its value will always decrease, not so with gold, so no, I will not "relax" my position on gold, in fact I think ill ramp up my gold purchases while I can still afford it 😆

[@insane_troll]

@@AlexandraStarr1974 Remember to cackle maniacally and roll around in it. That always helps.

[@TitusAzzurro]

@@AlexandraStarr1974 Actually the value of gold has been a worse investment to invest in than stock or real estate by any possible metric. The fact you need to make a sizeable investment in a proper safe and security system and the fact it’s actually quite complicated to sell it off (the buyer will want to control the quality first), makes it a difficult ‘difficult’ to invest in this commodity.

[@AlexandraStarr1974]

@@TitusAzzurro Hard to sell gold? It isn't hard at all, and yes, you need to buy a fair amount but over time it all adds up, every little bit you accumulate, but I stand by the worth of gold, its more stable than the stock market is, always has been!

[@MrYeastoffical]

Caught doing a heist? Better call Saul, he's a great lawyer

[@toddaulner5393]

Gold would be easier to scrap than trying to spend cash.

[@krakenslaper1996]

Hey....your show rocks Thoughty2.....I just watched your 'the truth why modern movies suck' video, I would really like to see a list of top 20 movies that YOU recommend, that everybody should see.

[@parrot849]

Reminds me of Lufthansa-JFK airport heist that is depicted in the film Goodfellas….

[@wht-rabt-obj]

I would love to see you do a video about how Harrison Okene survived in a sunken ship for two days. His story is amazing.

[@ZopcsakFeri]

"Almost as rich as the Queen of England!" Ha! Here in Hungary, the childhood friend of Prime Minister Orban (a gas appliance technician) is actually richer than the Sovereign of England. :D

[@kiburi_david]

Good one Thoughty2

[@User-dc4tm]

Perfect way to start the day off!

[@fredflintstoner596]

Mrs Richards: "I paid for a room with a view !" Basil: (pointing to the lovely view) "That is Torquay, Madam ." Mrs Richards: "It's not good enough!" Basil: "May I ask what you were expecting to see out of a Torquay hotel bedroom window ? Sydney Opera House, perhaps? the Hanging Gardens of Babylon? Herds of wildebeest sweeping majestically past?..." Mrs Richards: "Don't be silly! I expect to be able to see the sea!" Basil: "You can see the sea, it's over there between the land and the sky." Mrs Richards: "I'm not satisfied. But I shall stay. But I expect a reduction." Basil: "Why?! Because Krakatoa's not erupting at the moment ?"

[@jainorman3425]

I respect those guys for risking everything for that amount of money.

[@stevesmith3556]

That's a crazy story!

[@chrisbentleywalkingandrambling]

Nice one 42. Really enjoyed this one.

[@kizzyharris3727]

Thoughty2😭

[@chrisbentleywalkingandrambling]

@kizzyharris3727 and you didn't get it, did you?

[@kizzyharris3727]

@@chrisbentleywalkingandrambling please explain it to me?

[@mikethetowns]

00:22 - "Given their centuries old love of all thing AU-" Australia - "Aww, yay"

[@iammattc1]

Reminds me of the Lufthansa Heist Both robbing currency storage, both got away with record amounts, both resulted in multiple deaths

[@prestonwarren2692]

Hell yeah new video.👍

[@stearnd3612]

Great video as always. BTW, how's your French? You mentioned in previous videos that you were learning French with Babbel. Est-ce que tu prends toujours des cours? Est-ce que tu pratiques souvent? Just curious.

[@donm5354]

Reminds me of a classic TWILIGHT ZONE episode where some thieves stole a truckload of Gold Bars. One was a scientist who perfected hibernation chambers so they went to sleep to make up in 100 years or so and spend their gold - figuring everyone would have frogtten about the robbery.. ......................... Then when they woke up fought over the gold and the last guy - dehydrated walked along road into town with some gold bars. Future people stopped by and he offered them a gold bar for a ride and some water.. then died... they looked at the gold and one of them noted at one time GOLD was worth alot --- before they learned to manufacture it cheaply.

[@Peace.and.knowledge1]

Classic channel right here 👍

[@0fficialdregs]

There was a brink heist not to far from me a month ago, on payday at work never the less lol

[@elbudman]

babe wake up, thoughty2 posted

[@glenncooper3524]

13:25 Ha!!! I thought you said "many of us" instead of "many others". For a second, I thought you had something to share, but you can't. Ha!!!!!

[@jackdurden466]

Forgive me but I can’t be the only one who actually gets pleasure out of a heist successfully played. I don’t at all condone any murder, and aside from the actual criminals getting killed that old adage “those who live by the sword die by the sword” applied here. And that’s an entirely different story. But when a company that specializes in keeping such large amounts of valuables safe, and is insured against theft and loss, gets taken so simply, I cannot help but laugh. There was a huge Brinks robbery done a few decades back in the US, I don’t recall the specifics, but I’m pretty sure there was an inside woman, and it was about 3X this amount and all cash. Happens all the time!

[@LonesomeDrifter186]

Good take on a great story..

[@HazedKing-Haztik]

"that's just criminal" no no no sir that's genius 😂

[@Elbisivylerab]

Can you please make a video on people that went missing or may have been murdered for knowing too much. I feel like you are the perfect person for it. And if you type it in KZbin it just shows alien videos.

[@Vee_of_the_Weald]

Haha! Immediately after the video ended, there came an ad for gold jewellery! Timing, hey 👌🏼

[@dkajj]

Johnson Matthey! That is the name! My grandfather showed me a silver bar when i was younger... i looked them up, it was 100 oz.. I hope it went somewhere worthwhile!

[@Cavemankind_]

Reminds me of a squirrel holding a nut in a cage, stuck, because the squirrel’s hand won’t fit back out of the hole. Another metaphor could be a free diver finding gold treasure on the sea floor, just before a storm is approaching. On a breath hold, dives down, fills their pockets & wetsuit with gold coins, then is too heavy to reach the surface for air. Yet, they greedily refuse to drop the gold for fear of never finding it again, inevitably drowning rich.

[@Katharsis540]

Checkout Carbanak heist that Kaspersky tried to hide. Digital heist.

[@pacificfinder]

UK to Robbers: Dare you use my spells against me Potter!!

[@jordanekl5383]

Keep up the amazing work! Always such good storytelling, and fact work! (From what i can tell lol)

[@grugnotice7746]

Murder? That's fine. Possess some gold? 15 years.

[@anon_y_mousse]

The ironic thing is that if you willfully murder someone to commit a crime in Britain, you get next to nothing, but kill someone unintentionally to protect your life and/or property and they throw the book at you.

[@MetalizedButt]

Who said Murder is fine?

[@grugnotice7746]

@@MetalizedButt The court. The court said that when they gave less prison time for murder than for possessing gold.

[@Carab69]

Hetty, toughty2 here! Never gets old

[@Kirt44]

This was one of the good ones

[@thomaswburkhart]

nice vid!

[@MCsCreations]

That's mad as gold.

[@TheWatcherOnWho]

My Dad was a copper in Kent and came across Kenneth Noye. Not a pleasant person from his accounts although he didn't put it as nicely as that.

[@elibronson7898]

die hard 2 features a gold heist at the federal reserve in New York City, but as it turns out the movie was so well written that the plan would actually have worked at the time of the movies release. The hole in security were fixed but needless to say that the film made some of the "top brass" at the reserve a bit rervous.

[@fettywap1738]

4:23 made me actually lol

[@denial987]

Was a movie made about this starring Sean Bean? I think it was called the Brinks-Matt Robbery and it changed the way bank guards were able to defend themselves when banks allowed security guards to carry firearms while in transit to their locations if people tried to rob these vans.

[@marhawkman303]

Yeah unarmed guards are.... not always a good idea.

[@282XVL]

LOL Brinks just got robbed for 3600 lbs of gold again, out of a warehouse at YYZ airport in Toronto. Can't wait for the video about that in 5 years.

[@chunkyhoey8649]

With the disguise and everything it looks like Gary Lineker.

[@cakedon]

*THE BIG ONE!!*

[@dlb4299]

Did anyone else hear him say at 13:23 "many of US have languished in prison". Makes you wonder. I did not think Thoughty2 was that old.

[@EducatedPsycho95]

Forty2 to start the day off?? Nice

[@bryandraughn9830]

None of these crooks can accidentally drop a gold bar near my fishing spot for some reason.😢

[@joycescott717]

Here is a interesting fact as sea level rises all mountains will shrink because of us mountains from sea level

[@albaniansuperiorshqipetari8055]

2:26 Say what you like about arm Roberts but they do get up in the morning.

[@tankeater]

WTF kind of truck can't carry 3 Tons??? You got some HOOPTIES in the UK 🤣

[@toddaulner5393]

He had a golf course, a private jet and a helicopter but mowed his own lawn?

[@Georgegerrard_]

I think this was referenced in the song Cool For Cats by Squeeze “The sweeneys doing 90 cause they’ve got the word to go They get a gang of villains in a shed up at Heathrow”

[@Matthew-ut6ed]

Except that "Cool for Cats" was released in 1979, four years before the Brinks-Mat robbery...

[@thelifeofarthur]

hi thoughty2 here, the most Iconic intro in youtube history ✌️

[@T4N7]

I kept wondering y the name of John Palmer seemed so familiar n then u mentioned how rich he got n it clicked; I've seen him mentioned in a video about insanely wealthy people of history but they didn't go into heavy detail about him cuz it was a long list of people

[@harshvardhan5893]

Don't drink and drive but if you do better call saul

[@jeremyroland5602]

8:09 lol

[@susanrobinson910]

Why can’t I ever get this lucky when I go rob a bank?! I mean, if I were to do that I mean 😅

[@systemspecchecker]

Btw "the police turned up, but for reasons that have been lost to history, they decided to not take things any further" is a polite biritsh way of saying "they took the bribes and left"

[@dibley1973]

Great info as always, but which bit explained how security was changed forever? 😂

[@kizzyharris3727]

He didn’t say how, he said why

[@dibsyardshuntinglayout]

@@kizzyharris3727 oh yes, so he did! 🧐

[@ArnarF]

8:08 it says 13,0000,000 😂

[@somerandomfella]

A story worthy of a movie or Netflix series.

[@edusam666]

2:58 please note the screen they had in 1983... 😅

[@yt_Ajay_]

5:05 Flying Fox of the Yard???

[@EvgenyMeshkov]

Brian 'The Colonel' Robinson reminded me of Anatoly Chubais... they have certain similarities...

[@Sololad]

Palmer is a true icon

[@thomasblake9922]

I lost it when he introduced Brian, I tabbed over from netflix after watching life of brian

[@josephbondar]

Go hawks your videos are amazing

[@otlseal9159]

The bit a still don't get is how do you carry 3 ton in a small Ford Transit van ?

[@trickedouttech321]

You never said how it changed Security forever? Still a fun Story, Thanks

[@kizzyharris3727]

It’s why, not how

[@sebastianrus6966]

Hello sir ! I love you're videos ! Keep it up !

[@queenannsrevenge100]

OK - selling stolen gold back to the company it was stolen from, and getting away Scot-free? It was criminal to be sure - but you have to recognize Game.

[@southernfriedwestcoaster]

I wonder if any of the gold is up in someone's attic or buried in someone's backyard