Why This Movie Just Bombed, But Why It Doesn't Matter

Join Ewan and Gareth as they break down the box office results for Kevin Costners latest outing in Horizon, as well the potential for Viggo Mortensen to return in Lord of the Rings upcoming Gollum movie, and Netflix ruining Eddie Murphy's fourth Beverly Hills Cop.
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[@appletreeblues]

Best to think of it as a historical period piece, not a western. A narrative of what the first pioneers went through based on a promise - the promised land and lifestyle for those who dared travel and inhabit wild spaces, not realizing that the wild spaces weren't empty... I look forward to seeing movie 2. I'd see the first one again. There's some great acting and beautiful cinematography.

[@richeaton5752]

Leone's "Once Upon A Time In The West" bombed, soooo...

[@benmcfee]

As did John Carpenter's _The Thing._

[@travisgray8376]

So did once upon a time in America still a masterpiece same as heaven's gate it's got hate n both are box office bombs but both are now considered both masterpieces now

[@evancallow4356]

The Hunt for golum is the rogue one of Lord of rings

[@ricardoaguirre6126]

I was the youngest member in the audience when i went to see Horizon. Unlike most people my age i love westerns.🤠

[@TCViper8618]

I didn’t even know about this movie until a week ago. No advertising didn’t help

[@Largentina.]

It has plenty of advertising lol.

[@jamesbednar8625]

Agreed. Never knew about this movie until drove by the local theater and saw the poster. Then looked at a trailer online to see what it was about. The trailer really did not do this movie any justice nor pique my interest. Neer seen any advertising on TV either.

[@stevecourtright7848]

Went to see Horizon with the wife, we both loved it and would watch it again. More importantly, we will be going to see Part 2. Also, the theater had the biggest crowd I've seen in 4-5 years. My only complaint is that it could have been edited a little better, some scene changes were kind of abrupt.

[@travisgray8376]

Actually chapters 1 and 2 together is 100 million it's 50 million each film so all up it's 200 million dollar budget for 4 movies. Most movies are 250 million + but Kevin Costner made four movies for 200 million.

[@ProfessorEchoMedia]

Gareth looks like he’s thinking about candy bars during Ewan’s endless opening monologue.

[@TrueMithrandir]

We saw it thought it was great! cant wait for the next installment

[@TonyBakercomedy]

“Axel F” should definitely be in theaters

[@Largentina.]

Genuine question: who considers Heaven's Gate as one of the best westerns ever made?

[@kenbrown2540]

Cinephiles with no real concern for history.

[@przemysawdobrzynski2590]

Hmm... 3 hour long western, which is mostly an exposition and part one of a bigger movie, did not do well in box office in 2024? Wonder why? ;)

[@mr.dccomics9018]

Please. Endgame was just as long.

[@przemysawdobrzynski2590]

@@mr.dccomics9018 Endgame wasn't a western, a genre that is not appealing for mass audience in 21sr century and was a finale of a 20+ movies saga. Horizon is the first part. And it's more like a tv series. Why watch it now when you would want to watch the whole 4 (or more) parta when they come out?

[@FourthStreetSaint]

@@mr.dccomics9018 Endgame was the finale of 10 years of movies Horizon is 3 hour part 1 that’s setting up the rest of the story

[@donpayne3244]

@@mr.dccomics9018lil bro just saw 3 hours and thought he was being clever with his comment💀😭

[@ripman21]

Short attention spans and no explosions would be my guess.

[@clintoncampbell236]

Westerns were meant to be told this way , it’s being put out like a novel and no one reads anymore. You get some story from this group, then this group and eventually they are all going to collide . After this story is done , I’d love to see Kevin direct some Louis La’mour novels like comestock lode , the lonesome Gods , the Californio’s. If they were put out like Horizon is being done they would probably be the greatest film adaptations of a novel ever. I like the approach to time on this movie , it takes it’s time to tell the story.

[@xisigma]

Didn't know Costner liked westerns even though he did Dances. Always thought he was typecast in them, but I guess it's by choice.

[@crystalweible152]

Nothing will do well in theater's when audiences have multiple platforms to entertain themselves. Until it is released into our homes it will not. Just how it is now.

[@lanalan4157]

Inside out just made a billion in 18 days...

[@davidmylchreest3306]

Axel F was genuinely good. But Netflix see cinema as competition, so it will never get a proper release.

[@gordonmacdowell8117]

I like a good 'duster', but the last big Western that made me want to go see it at the theatre was the remake of True Grit, which I liked better than the original. Someone already did a fan film about the Hunt for Gollum and it's on KZbin. This project feels like squeezing the last bits of money they can out of the franchise.

[@kelso120]

Was not aware of horizon

[@d.a.baracus1438]

Bikeriders, like Horizon, is also a dad movie, had a big 2nd wk drop...so that doesn't bode well for Horizon's legs.

[@KainedbutAble123]

It absolutely matters because Costner needs to demonstrate the success of the first film so that he can get financing to shoot 3 and 4. He has exhausted his own finances and is appealing to billionaires to help him finish the films.

[@travisgray8376]

He's filming Chapter 3 right now n chapter 4 is in development nothing will stop these films being released its almost finish anyways. Costner filming them all back to back. He's gonna release all 4 regardless how it does at the box office.

[@kieranm272]

I loved the movie, i think in years to come, it will be regarded as a classic.

[@travisgray8376]

I don't care I love this film n gonna see the other 3 chapters. It's a 11 hour epic western film released in four chapters. I love it n glad U do too I hate stupid people n so many exist now

[@dbeardsley0]

Freaking loved horizon, can't wait for the rest of it. I'll be there day 1 for every part

[@mychunkyjordi7585]

If Axel is going to Net Flix I'll not be seeing it. I only buy physical media as can't get to a cinema due to anxiety and travel issues and I don't stream as I only have Internet on my phone. Great video as always guys 👍😊💜🐾👋

[@oranjmusemeyer968]

You know you can stream on your phone then just mirror it on your TV, right?

[@mychunkyjordi7585]

@@oranjmusemeyer968 I can't afford to stream

[@rustyshackleford2792]

U live like it's 1996

[@mychunkyjordi7585]

@@rustyshackleford2792 Maybe in your eyes 👀 but did you have a violent ex husband. I'm not wasting my money on streaming, Internet & TV license in England

[@benhunter6194]

Isn't Horizon basically Kevin Costner's middle finger to Taylor Sheridan?

[@brookeblumenthal1678]

@@benhunter6194 no costner has been trying to get this made seince the 90s

[@wfox4418]

I’ve just never really been a fan of Kevin Kostner.

[@brettrobinson2901]

well you need to learn a DIFFERENT WAY little mister...!!!😠

[@susanjane4784]

More Garath -- he's getting "short sheeted" and is quite funny.

[@user-rg1ms6sj2k]

I thought the Horizon film was good.

[@geoffok]

Nothing really matters, anyone can see

[@Elainerulesutube]

Who wants to sit through a 3 hour movie?

[@Largentina.]

I base whether I like a movie or not on its quality. Not it's length. Same with books and videogames. Judging it only by its length seems like something a very ignorant child would do.

[@josephknaak9034]

Three hour movies need to have an intermission

[@nickgomez41]

Ya this is like the third or fourth why this movie bombed video y’all have put out and I didn’t care about those so I won’t care about the dollars on this one either cause the quality of the film is what I care about

[@alexius23]

🎥🎞🍿🧙🏻‍♂

[@aloneness3506]

The worst thing about it is..... Nothing actually happens...... Its soooo boring soooo stale soooo nothing.... And there's a montage at the end...

[@josephknaak9034]

I disagree

[@glenncheatham1320]

Why do you have someone else on screen if you are going never stop rambling?!🙄

[@lordofthereels6790]

An Eddie Murphy Axel Foley team up with Chevy Chase's Fletch back in the day would have been awesome IMO

[@Sane_Man11]

I saw the trailer, and it looked incredibly "MEH".... I am usually a sucker for a great western epic, but the vibes in the trailer just was sooooo blah and uninteresting.

[@jamespope7669]

Would you like it if it was from the native perspective.

[@travisgray8376]

Typical answer. Not giving original content a chance but U be first to see same superhero story told over n over it's pathetic just admit U don't like originality U want remakes n reboots

[@rorycarter7792]

Sorry the Western will never have the same strength as it did 50 to 70 years ago

[@Scandic45]

An American Saga is a very bad title.... i honestly did not even know it had come out, That said if a movie does not make up its budget within 2 days that should not be the standard the movie should be out there for a couple of months to generate interest, LOTR has 4 ages of content and they take a small moment mentioned in the series ( been a while since i read the book but at most 2 chapters) But there is sooo many other stories to explore and make into movies so i'm not excited for this one.

[@comebackguy8892]

The title is Horizon 🤦‍♂

[@Scandic45]

@@comebackguy8892 horizon , an american saga is still a bad title

[@comebackguy8892]

@@Scandic45 So when you refer to Furiosa 2024 you just say A Mad Max Saga? 😂

[@Hogtownboy1]

You wrong about this film. The marketing was aimed at people my age ( boomers). We are not returning to the theatres. We are huge consumers of streaming.

[@DvLnDsGyZ]

Some will become a cult classics.

[@cactusmanbwl1990]

I thought it was amazing 🤷🏼‍♂️

[@alfredoprieto6798]

No views in 1 minute bro fell off

[@jimbo9208]

it almost like people have a life outside of youtube

[@alfredoprieto6798]

Joke --- Your head

[@jimbo9208]

@@alfredoprieto6798 not funny get a life

[@StanHalen1936]

​@@alfredoprieto6798where's the joke?

[@bronsonbamnallen1633]

I will name 3 reasons right now and I have not even watched it yet: 1) length 2) competition 3) republican propaganda

[@travisgray8376]

Pathetic

[@brookeblumenthal1678]

@@bronsonbamnallen1633 there is no replican propaganda in it

[@mr.dccomics9018]

A generation of MCU fans that dont watch anything else is probably why it failed.

[@ExtremeMadnessX]

Or is it because the Western isn't a popular genre for decades?

[@mr.dccomics9018]

@ExtremeMadnessX well you can say that for any other genre of movies in Hollywood. The only movies that are successful for the longest were the big superhero movies. Call me crazy, but I think the only reason they begin to be terrible after Endgame, was to let other genre of movies have the spotlight. To give people a chance to see some other movie.

[@wfox4418]

@@mr.dccomics9018Okay, but also Westerns are notorious for having fallen off hard decades ago, long before the MCU ever started.

[@edvaira6891]

It’s a THREE HOUR LONG R-Rated Western…NONE of this Helped! Also, the reviews are very …Meh!

[@mr.dccomics9018]

@edvaira6891 wasn't Red Dead Redemption 2 successful. That game would have bombed if people didn't like Western.

[@jamespope7669]

Today's generation has the attention span of a goldfish. Horizon too long, but don't complain about mcu woke 💩endgame 😂

[@ExtremeMadnessX]

👆🧌🤡💩

[@travisgray8376]

Yep pathetic stupid people are the majority. MCU has fried a whole generations minds.

[@vikramprasanna8908]

Just like you shouldn't care about Furiosa bombing 🥱