Why This Route 1 Rat Is Pokemon's Bravest Warrior

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Droomish

Droomish

Күн бұрын

Today's ridiculous Pokemon deep dive will have us following the incredible Gen 3 Pokemon Zigzagoon in Pokemon Ruby, Sapphire, and Emerald, as we take a deeper look at this lovable creature who's part of an archetype that's always been dealt a bad hand. Does Zigzagoon have what it takes to rise above its status as a lowly Rattata clone? Let's find out.
Ever since the Inclusion of Rattata and Pidgey in Pokemon Red and Blue, every generation of creatures has included a similar generic rat and generic bird. This archetype of creature has something of an unfortunate history, as they are largely to be used as training Pokemon and later into the games will mainly use, if any at all, as field move wielders who get the player where they need to go. While perhaps weaker in battle, these are a dependable bunch who are always ready to aid their adventuring trainers- they do a lot for us.
Zigzagoon and its evolution Linoone are examples of such creatures. The generic rat of Gen 3, its a Pokemon that has using HMs and being a support Pokemon seemingly baked into its design, and has resulted in a species that near everyone is probably familiar with. It uses field moves, it collects items with its ability, and its always there for us- making every sacrifice along the way for the greater good of the team.
But there may just be a lurking giant beneath this friendly facade, and we'll explore it all in full today as we see what this BEAST is really capable of. Through a lifetime of sacrifice given new meaning, this Route 1 Rat may just be Pokemon's Bravest Warrior. Let's dive in.
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@droomish1
@droomish1 8 ай бұрын
zigzagoon fan cam
@piranhalettuce
@piranhalettuce 8 ай бұрын
Zigzagooners Unite!
@flyingrainfrog898
@flyingrainfrog898 8 ай бұрын
@@piranhalettuceThat sounds a bit like something else...
@ang9502
@ang9502 8 ай бұрын
Zigzagoonian Army is the Strongest!
@crystalbluepartain3434
@crystalbluepartain3434 8 ай бұрын
"i strapped a go pro to my zigzagoon"
@claudefox5489
@claudefox5489 8 ай бұрын
Magdalena Bay was a nice touch
@traiges414
@traiges414 8 ай бұрын
Steven was kinda shocked at first when i entered the champion hall in Pokemon Saphire - Kinda understandable when you have a level 100 Swampert & 5 Zigzagoon with Rare Candies sticking all over their fur as a team
@jarrodnisly3333
@jarrodnisly3333 8 ай бұрын
I just discovered this method of game play, and I'm wondering how it took me 20 years lol
@droomish1
@droomish1 8 ай бұрын
this is the most classical definition of a goon squad, excellent work
@nsp6590
@nsp6590 8 ай бұрын
​@@droomish1"goon squad" ☠️
@traiges414
@traiges414 8 ай бұрын
@@jarrodnisly3333 to be fair this pickup tatic was only really op in ruby/saphire. They realized quickly how broken the drop chances were. So if you played mostly FR/LG or Emerald this wouldnt have been as game changing
@Gloomdrake
@Gloomdrake 8 ай бұрын
@@nsp6590got a problem with henchmen?
@mchamma21
@mchamma21 8 ай бұрын
My favorite part about zizagoon is that he's just a zig zag raccoon. Something about that is so adorable
@tylerpetersen6226
@tylerpetersen6226 8 ай бұрын
And it evolves into line badger.
@dapperblueberries9779
@dapperblueberries9779 8 ай бұрын
No he’s a rat
@Weldedhodag
@Weldedhodag 7 ай бұрын
@@tylerpetersen6226 Badgertar, master of all four garbage cans
@cobymartin5920
@cobymartin5920 Ай бұрын
Doesn't that make him not a rat pokemon? Maybe that's why he's so good
@stormRed
@stormRed 8 ай бұрын
"I got mine for 240$..." Thanos: "A small price to pay for zigzagoon."
@droomish1
@droomish1 8 ай бұрын
this is an investment and it WILL pay dividends
@bivcbmtgstgtssscqcrddgtrsm2257
@bivcbmtgstgtssscqcrddgtrsm2257 8 ай бұрын
Oh hi.
@stormRed
@stormRed 8 ай бұрын
@@bivcbmtgstgtssscqcrddgtrsm2257 I love that we keep watching the same vids 😂
@stormRed
@stormRed 8 ай бұрын
@@bivcbmtgstgtssscqcrddgtrsm2257 Hi!!
@thevenom2731
@thevenom2731 2 ай бұрын
I used a rom of the US version on my modded wii. Nintendont ftw
@ScarletRebel96
@ScarletRebel96 8 ай бұрын
Never underestimate the power of a belly drum extreme speed linoone
@TheModdedwarfare3
@TheModdedwarfare3 8 ай бұрын
Gengar.
@ScarletRebel96
@ScarletRebel96 8 ай бұрын
@@TheModdedwarfare3 linoone can also learn suckerpunch
@GamingTranceSeer
@GamingTranceSeer 8 ай бұрын
​@@ScarletRebel96substitute
@jazzercise300
@jazzercise300 8 ай бұрын
​@@ScarletRebel96uses shadowball in gen 3 ou for gengar as well
@MerkhVision
@MerkhVision 8 ай бұрын
Can Zigzagoon or Linoone not learn Foresight? Furret could ;)
@nsiderultimaseth
@nsiderultimaseth 8 ай бұрын
I always love seeing "trash" Pokémon have value for in-game play. It's a nice reminder that Pokémon isn't all numbers and stats. Zigzagoon definitely reigns supreme for its utility, but Furrett has always been my personal favorite Route 1 Rat. It's just so cute! Also actually useable in doubles. Special shoutout to Bidoof, who with its ability Simple can turn Charge Beam into Nasty Plot and fire off boosted Surfs and Ice Beams like nobody's business.
@spindash64
@spindash64 8 ай бұрын
I like Furret in Pokemon Colosseum for Follow Me support, yeah. "Look at me. _I_ am the walker now"
@paulloy8728
@paulloy8728 8 ай бұрын
Simple Swords Dance Bibarel w/ Aqua Jet and Quick Attack gets my nod
@Random-person-on-the-internet
@Random-person-on-the-internet 8 ай бұрын
Nah, Moody is somehow even more broken. With Leftovers, Protect, Substitute etc, you can stall enough to sweep ANYTHING.
@bomoose
@bomoose 8 ай бұрын
extreme speed belly drum sweeping
@tomithy_lo
@tomithy_lo 8 ай бұрын
​@@paulloy8728when I first found out they'd given it that moveset in sun/moon I tried to make it work in OU so hard lmao
@spindash64
@spindash64 8 ай бұрын
Something else worth noting about Rayquaza's strongest soldier: Espeed has been turned into an Egg move for it as of Ultra Sun and Ultra Moon, and Smeargle and Arcanine are both easily obtainable: this means you can teach your little Buddy the art of Greased Lightning without needing a Gamecube Game. This should also hold true in all newer games, but USUM is the last time Megas were a thing, so this is the last chance you have to style on things like Primal Kyogre
@tidalgrunt
@tidalgrunt 7 ай бұрын
Not necessarily the LAST. We can still hold out hope for the second Legends entry.
@eyeguyart8685
@eyeguyart8685 8 ай бұрын
10:41 love the little edit of the Zigzagoon hitting the map like a dart. so cute!
@amberhernandez
@amberhernandez 8 ай бұрын
The Persona sound effect only added to the perfection lol
@gracecornelius7736
@gracecornelius7736 8 ай бұрын
I remember in Alpha Sapphire, Steven wiped nearly my whole team with his stupid mega metagross, but who came in clutch? My Ziggy, my beloved Linoone, 10-20 levels below everyone else, finished him off with surf. Love your hm buddies and they'll love you back
@Meloettadg2
@Meloettadg2 8 ай бұрын
Gotta love hm slaves. Steven was always a pain in the ass
@raphaelkgh218
@raphaelkgh218 5 ай бұрын
Nice story!!! I really hope Hoenn Zigzagoon can get more tools to be able to shine!!! As well as all the other Early routes birds and rodents pokemon!!!
@bvd_vlvd
@bvd_vlvd 8 ай бұрын
Shoutout to Raticate in generation 1. A rocket grunt had a lv16 Raticate in Mt. Moon and it was so overpowered they had to replace it for the remakes. That just shows how important context really is. Fire Emblem taught me that the final map isn't the most important benchmark. If you get through a game smoothly thanks to those rodents and swap them out for a late pseudo-legendary if applicable (I guess Metagross for B2W2 could work), you'll have a breeze of a game since you covered all the bases. Even though I'm more of an early bug dude since they tend to have useful utility for the whole game, sometimes you just gotta demolish your game in half with that ludicrous STAB level 9 Headbutt
@Brespawn3
@Brespawn3 8 ай бұрын
That lv 16 Raticate killed 2 of my mons in a Nuzlocke of Blue I tried to do years ago.
@bvd_vlvd
@bvd_vlvd 8 ай бұрын
@@Brespawn3 I'm a gen 1 expert, I nuzlocke that game like 15 times per year and I tend to get smoked if I pick that battle without a fully evolved Nido. I usually just avoid him, it's almost mandatory
@danielcarrilho5217
@danielcarrilho5217 8 ай бұрын
The raticate grunt was removed in Yellow tho
@bvd_vlvd
@bvd_vlvd 8 ай бұрын
@@danielcarrilho5217 you know what? Let's pretend yellow qualifies as a remake :D
@heyarnold2006
@heyarnold2006 7 ай бұрын
To be fair, Raticate(as well as Greedent and Bibarel for that matter) become scary once they learn Super Fang.
@jamesdrayton3635
@jamesdrayton3635 8 ай бұрын
More Pokémon underdog stories would be nice. I always thought Taillow was the surprise star of gen 3 with the guts ability and facade, but Zigzagoon being great too shows that Hoenn has great early selection of Pokémon.
@spindash64
@spindash64 8 ай бұрын
Meanwhile, Wingull gets some goofy good typing + moves for the game, and Poochyena eventually gets Intimidate for a mid game tank
@droomish1
@droomish1 8 ай бұрын
I agree! that is the kind of thing that compels me about these games at large. I guess I just want to be careful about the concept so they don't totally devolve into meta breakdowns and the story stays intact. anything with guts and facade is good in my book
@jek__
@jek__ 7 ай бұрын
That's part of why gen 3 is so great IMO. I can't think of a single early game pokemon that I wouldn't want to use. Most of them have awesome 3rd stage evolutions with some fun and unique moves. Shroomish, whismur, ralts, aron, alongside many of the others mentioned here
@-FFFridge
@-FFFridge 7 ай бұрын
​@jek__ dunno, dustox and beautifly kinda suck gameplay wise
@ReliableDiamondThug
@ReliableDiamondThug 7 ай бұрын
@@-FFFridge disagree. most early bug-types have a very nice utility of being an early game powerhouse that can get you out of a sticky situation or simply run through weaker teams, almost like a 'jeigan' if that term means anything to you. i will admit beautifly isn't the best, but dustox works wonders. can easily carry you through brawly with confusion.
@wdnr1
@wdnr1 8 ай бұрын
wtset here, thanks a lot for the shoutout! funnily enough i also have another battle tower team featuring linoone where it is used to set up another early game rodent in furret for a massive +6 omni-boosted rollout sweep. can't link it here but it can be found on the fourth post of page 50 of the smogon frontier forum thread that is linked in the description
@chackbro1
@chackbro1 8 ай бұрын
Ah that's why everybody was always wonder trading zigzagoons in the 3DS games
@andweback7759
@andweback7759 8 ай бұрын
i was NOT expecting to see a zigzagoon edit today but here we are
@droomish1
@droomish1 8 ай бұрын
that's the droomish difference
@GymLeaderEllie
@GymLeaderEllie 8 ай бұрын
In Alpha Sapphire, when Steven's Mega Metagross swept me, I went back to my save and looked for a way to beat it. Ultimately what I came up with was Belly Drum / Shadow Claw Linoone coming in on a Hyper Beam recharge, my final Pokémon to win the fight. That made Linoone a favorite of mine forever.
@thelegacyofgaming2928
@thelegacyofgaming2928 3 ай бұрын
And this made possible ONLY because Steel type was nerfed in Gen 6 😂
@iiGiacomo
@iiGiacomo 8 ай бұрын
My current emerald cartridge has 5 lvl 91+ linoone for earthquake drops, and I’m currently leveling other linoone to get unlimited focus punches and rests. And also dozens of free proteins, hp ups, pp ups, and rare candies. Truly a play through mvp.
@ld12278
@ld12278 8 ай бұрын
Emerald clone glitch for the win!
@iiGiacomo
@iiGiacomo 8 ай бұрын
Nope, they’re all authentic 😁
@jonathanmuncil8782
@jonathanmuncil8782 8 ай бұрын
This editing mad me zigza-goon all over the place
@pumapandora1310
@pumapandora1310 8 ай бұрын
Let it be known that Raticate is great, often gets guts so it’s even better. Furret might not be as strong but makes up for it in cuteness. Zigzagoon (not Linoone) will give you loads of items and as someone who has used one up till like level 50 (because it’s a shiny) I can tell you that’s it’s surprisingly good, or at least not as bad as you’d expect. Haven’t really used Bidoofyet, but the whole Stoutland line is also awesome and I regularly use it. The gen 1 normal types are very good cute and useful
@bvd_vlvd
@bvd_vlvd 8 ай бұрын
Furret stole all our hearts with the walk. Seriously, it was my first plushie and I'm known as a plushyless cheapskate!
@mjdxp5688
@mjdxp5688 8 ай бұрын
I use Furret on nearly every playthrough in every game it's available in. It's my favorite Pokémon, bar none.
@spindash64
@spindash64 8 ай бұрын
As someone who _has_ used Bibarel, it's secretly incredible: Water/Normal hits almost every Pokemon in the series for neutral damage, as there are very few ghost or steel types with a Water Resistant typing This means that Bibarel, despite low stats, will do consistent Damage to most enemies even in the late game. And all 3 abilities are excellent: Unaware: the "worst" ability, it "only" denies the enemy from getting any stat increases vs Bibarel. That Swords Dance Garchomp is still doing neutral damage, Bibarel doesn't give a crap Simple: doubled stat stage changes. Charge Beam now doubles Special Attack instead of 50% more. Curse now doubles attack and defense instead of 50% more. Amnesia TRIPLES Special Defense instead of doubling. It also multiplies negative effects, but the result still lets Bibarel hit insane numbers Moody (Hidden): ...I shouldnt need to explain this one, but this ability got BIDOOF banned from Ubers. Not Bibarel, BIDOOF "PUNY GOD"
@andsailedcalmlyon
@andsailedcalmlyon 8 ай бұрын
My Raticate made it all the way to the Elite 4 in my most recent FireRed playthrough.
@dc_dachi
@dc_dachi 7 ай бұрын
Can confirm, Bibarel is super underrated in single player. Water/Normal with STAB Headbutt is ridiculous early game coverage, Simple Defense Curl/Amnesia/Curse is strong, and HM utility is nice. If Work Up existed in Gen 4, this thing would be a beast.
@sabletooth
@sabletooth 8 ай бұрын
It's a huge pet peeve of mine that the fan community calls the early Normal types "rodents", because the minority of them are. Rattata, Bidoof, Skwovet and if you count the expanded cast, Tandemaus are the only early route rodents in the series. That's 3 out of 9 (or 4 out of 12 with the expanded count) gens that have rodents. Let alone rats, of which there's ONLY Rattata. Sentret is a mustelid (ferret), Zigzagoon is a mustelid (badger), Patrat is a meerkat (mongoose, of which the closest relative is the hyena), Bunnelby is a rabbit which are not rodents, Yungoos is also a mongoose, Lechonk is a pig, and if we include the 'expanded' roster, then we also get Lillipup (dog) and Wooloo (sheep). Give Zigzagoon its due. It's not a rat. It's a badger. Badgers rule.
@Sweetheart_Maryll
@Sweetheart_Maryll Ай бұрын
Route 1 mammals maybe
@mjdxp5688
@mjdxp5688 8 ай бұрын
I genuinely think Zigzagoon is the number one best Pokémon in the game in Ruby and Sapphire. That is because Pickup is absolutely broken in RS. In every other Pokémon game afterwards, the quality of items you get from Pickup scales with your level. However, in Ruby and Sapphire, the same item table was used for every level. This item table includes Ultra Balls, Nuggets, and best of all, Rare Candies. All these overpowered items are available from the very start of the game, so if you were to use a team of five or six Zigzagoon, you'll be farming amazing items throughout your whole playthrough. This is EXTREMELY useful for the Professor Oak challenge which is very grind heavy. In regular playthroughs, five Zigzagoons and your starter make the game easy. You can even go with six of them and use one of them as your main for maximum item gathering. It's a ridiculously overpowered strategy I've used many times before which absolutely blows through the game. I'm not surprised they nerfed it in every subsequent game.
@ivanbluecool
@ivanbluecool 8 ай бұрын
Zigzagoon is probably my favorite early route rodent Mon. So many uses with hms and cool design But I do enjoy how they started changing the typings later on to make them more interesting to get with bidoof and taloneflame
@droomish1
@droomish1 8 ай бұрын
talonflame MOVED me when it was released! a concept like this can remain really familiar and foundational but still receive that type of variation? they were cooking for sure
@JayceCH.
@JayceCH. 8 ай бұрын
Talonflame is the early route bird.
@Nick-yl4qp
@Nick-yl4qp 8 ай бұрын
Don't forget about a special shiny Zigzagoon with a leichi Berry you get for fixing the Berry glitch in Ruby and sapphire
@haydenw7981
@haydenw7981 8 ай бұрын
Used a simple bibarel in Pearl. Simple + swords dance + stab return = Overkill
@spindash64
@spindash64 8 ай бұрын
Plus, it gets STAB on the 2 major HM types, meaning it can mule you around while still dealing some damage mid game
@HomeCookinMTG
@HomeCookinMTG 8 ай бұрын
@@spindash64 I’ve always liked bibarel, Never used it though past like gym 2 tho. You have access to Gyarados, which kind of fills the same niche but better IMO.
@omlo9093
@omlo9093 8 ай бұрын
I too bought my Extremespeed Zigzagoon at a Wawa down in Philadelphia.
@GoldSayaProductions
@GoldSayaProductions 8 ай бұрын
The Gang Buys a Hacked Pokemon
@2yoyoyo1Unplugged
@2yoyoyo1Unplugged 8 ай бұрын
On a side note, I think Galarian Zigzagoon is a brilliantly simple redesign.
@StrayTato
@StrayTato 7 ай бұрын
And he gets an awesome final stage. Would love to see a Hoenn take on Obstagoon. The boy deserves it.
@marvelousball
@marvelousball Ай бұрын
Obstagoon looks disgusting
@goode.110
@goode.110 8 ай бұрын
The civ 5 boat noise spoke to me
@RoninCatholic
@RoninCatholic 8 ай бұрын
Funny thing, despite being called "rodents" or "regional rodents" or "rodent archetype" only 4 of 9 regions thus far have used an actual rodent: - Kanto, mouse/rat (Rattata and Raticate) - Sinnoh, beaver (Bidoof and Bibarel, the first major twist on the archetype via being dual typed with Water upon evolution) - Unova, prairie dog/groundhog (Patrat and The Ugly One, being a soft reboot of all 4 generations to this point condensed into a single entirely new region) - Galar, squirrel (Greedent) Twice, it's been a mustelid (major predator of rodents) - Sentret/Furret, being ferrets - Zigzagoon/Linnoone, being badgers Once, it's been a mongoose (which is more like the weasels than a rodent) Once, it's been a lagomorph (which is sometimes mistaken for a rodent due to similar function of regenerating incisors) Once, it's been a pig
@snowsong7108
@snowsong7108 8 ай бұрын
My first shiny pokemon was a linoone on the used copy of Ruby I got, and even though I lost it in the many resets that cartridge went through, the speedy little badger is still one of my favorites. It provided young me so much move coverage and made my runs much easier. Love this little guy.
@Tyranogre
@Tyranogre 8 ай бұрын
The Zigzagoon fandom is dying! Thumbs up if you're a true Gooner!
@Gelatinocyte2
@Gelatinocyte2 7 ай бұрын
More of a Nooner
@fsu7482
@fsu7482 6 ай бұрын
Good one 😂
@williebell59
@williebell59 7 ай бұрын
Finally a video I can share when people ask me, "why Zigzagoon?" I get ask " Why Zigzagoon?" so often.
@funnelkaek
@funnelkaek 8 ай бұрын
feeling like zigzagoon in the pianta parlor today tysm droomish
@zeemgeem
@zeemgeem 8 ай бұрын
The role of the HM user tends to be looked down on but I never really saw it that way. That's just a mon you've trained for something important other than battling, but battling isn't everything at least according to the themes of the games. I think if anything it could have been a lot more interesting if expanded on - balancing teambuilding focus on power and mobility would adjust the difficulty but also adjust how many rewards, optional areas, and shortcuts you can access throughout the game. With HMs being removed the rats have lost a big niche that made them useful on playthroughs.
@zaccatacc
@zaccatacc 8 ай бұрын
Bidoof(aka god): the stone that the builder refused shall become the cornerstone
@Testostyronne
@Testostyronne 8 ай бұрын
Not to mention the Zigzagoon line got the buff rodent treatment with Obstagoon in Gen 8! Great video man, I truly thought this was gonna be an HM Slave video at first, but I was very wrong towards the end and actually learned a lot!
@CoolGamer4161
@CoolGamer4161 8 ай бұрын
If it wasn’t for Dunsparce, Zigzagoon and Linoone would be my favorite normal types.
@specs.weedle
@specs.weedle 8 ай бұрын
my favorite generic earlygame birds are staraptor and talonflame whether or not they actually qualify as “generic” is debateable given their stat spreads, good movepools, and in talonflame’s case, having a different primary type, all qualities that make them stand out from all the generic normal/flying types
@BanoraRuins
@BanoraRuins 8 ай бұрын
linoone carried my emerald team until a multi hit move crit her late game and it was the only time i stopped a nuzlocke not because i failed, but because it genuinely hurt to lose a pokemon i went from being certain she'd die early, to a pokemon who was easily the ace of my team. fly high, biscuit. you were the pokemon to make me realise stats weren't everything, even on a nuzlocke.
@deana6072
@deana6072 8 ай бұрын
4:03 my favorite part 😭😭😭
@aliteralbeaver5092
@aliteralbeaver5092 8 ай бұрын
I love linoone! It's definitely one of my favorite normal types. The ability gluttony is amazing on it too since, after a belly drum, you can activate the healing berries that normally only activate at 25% hp. Typically, you would have to use a sitrus berry on a belly drum user, so it's excellent to get that extra healing. Also, if anyone plays gen 7 like I still do, you can actually breed extreme speed onto zigzagoon in Ultra Sun and Ultra Moon!
@MrAlice613
@MrAlice613 8 ай бұрын
Linoone is genuinely the most treasured member of my first Gen III playthrough. Rocky still holds a place of honor in HOME. I love you, Linoone.
@Will-uv9kx
@Will-uv9kx 8 ай бұрын
This video is why very mild autism can be a gift
@toniconge7003
@toniconge7003 8 ай бұрын
AWW HELLZ YEAH!!! My mans Zigzaggoon!!! The fan cam was so so good
@IXPStaticI
@IXPStaticI 8 ай бұрын
Zigzagoon has a very special place in my heart ever since one of my PMD BRT playthroughts
@Haunter_1616
@Haunter_1616 8 ай бұрын
I really enjoyed all the little edits and memes you put in this vid. The outro was really well done too
@toffeinatedplays
@toffeinatedplays 8 ай бұрын
The editing is SO good! Super cool video, Drew!!
@MitchBurns
@MitchBurns 7 ай бұрын
I know you were focusing mostly on gen 3, but I’m shocked you didn’t even mention that it got a very good final evolution in obstigoon in gen 8.
@KeiranTrick
@KeiranTrick 8 ай бұрын
Calling Zigzagoon a rodent is absolutely wild, regardless of whether you think it's a raccoon or tanuki / 'raccoon dog' Not to be 🤓 but rodents are an entire order of the class mammalia, which contains the usual suspects- rats, mice, beavers, groundhogs, and more. Raccoons and tanuki, however, are from the order carnivora. Carnivora has two main suborders, caniformia and feliformia (dog-like or cat-lile). Both are in caniformia, but that's where their relation splits! Caniformia has several sub groups, which have more sub groups, etc etc. A nested hierarchy. Tanuki can be found within the canidae family which is in the superfamily canoidea, which itself is within the caniformia infraorder of 'cynoidea'. So, mammalia -> carnivora -> caniformia -> cynoidea -> canoidea -> canidae. Raccoons are in the family procyonidae which is in the superfamily musteloidea, in the infraorder arctoidea. This looks like mammalia -> carnivora -> caniformia -> arctoidea -> musteloidea -> procyonidae! The order rodentia (rodents) does make up a huge percentage of mammalians, though. Over 70% of mammal species are from the orders rodentia, chiroptera and soricomorpha alone, apparently. Feel free to roast my ass for saying so much for so little reason.
@crabman3144
@crabman3144 7 ай бұрын
I have a Zigzagoon story, or as I like to call it; Wally's Worst Day Ever. Early on in Omega Ruby, I grabbed a Zigzagoon, and it was doing pretty well. At one point, it learned Pin Missile. Ziggy was at the head of my party when the first battle with Wally and the Ralts he just got happens. My Zigzagoon outspeeds him, and Pin Missile being super effective because psychic is vulnerable to bug type, Wally's Ralts gets knocked out turn 1, before it has a chance to even do anything. At that point, my Zigzagoon evolves into a Linoone. And, of course, being a trainer battle, I took his wallet, because the game makes you take money from defeated trainers.
@WhyCatsCantFly
@WhyCatsCantFly 8 ай бұрын
I love all of your content! your scripts employ the wonder of playing pokemon for the first time as a kid, exploring everything with a careful eyes
@PapaJefeYT
@PapaJefeYT 8 ай бұрын
Fellow Zigzagoon enjoyer detected. 🤩🤩🤩 Great video. I wasn't even aware of Linoone's Battle Frontier clout. Thanks for the shoutout~
@droomish1
@droomish1 8 ай бұрын
your video and impact inspired!
@TheJoshChannel317
@TheJoshChannel317 7 ай бұрын
There needs to be a Chatot video. My boy gets too much hate. I mean, what's not to love? High speed, U-Turn, STAB Hyper Voice, Mirror Move, Nasty Plot.
@marinamoraes6174
@marinamoraes6174 8 ай бұрын
And all of this without even mentioning the Galarian Zigzagoon line!
@jazzercise300
@jazzercise300 8 ай бұрын
Tony soprano swerving to avoid zigzagoon is peak comedy
@flavalicious7327
@flavalicious7327 7 ай бұрын
4:03 Much appreciated the inclusion of Killshot by Magdalena Bay
@mikeleddyphoto
@mikeleddyphoto 8 ай бұрын
*definitely* want more of this! I love this angle of looking at pokemon
@seven_sirens
@seven_sirens 8 ай бұрын
I'm zigzagooning to this video
@specs.weedle
@specs.weedle 8 ай бұрын
my favorite generic earlygame birds are staraptor and talonflame whether or not they actually qualify as “generic” is debateable given their stat spreads, good movepools, and in talonflame’s case, having a different primary type
@leviadams8777
@leviadams8777 4 ай бұрын
Bro I love your channel. It’s just a love letter to the franchise. It’s so inspiring. Keep up the great work.
@theserpent1893
@theserpent1893 8 ай бұрын
Love how you incorporate pop culture references into your content I laughed till I cried when Tony and Adriana swerved to miss hitting a zigzagoon 😂
@nerdisnopinata8892
@nerdisnopinata8892 8 ай бұрын
This was a cool video! I'd really love it if you ended up making more like this one
@steelballrunner636
@steelballrunner636 8 ай бұрын
I loved this analysis of the GOAT of normal types.
@badamph2026
@badamph2026 8 ай бұрын
I was playing PokeMMO trying to search the Dex to, coincidentally, find a Pokemon to give a Zangoose I had Belly Drum as an Egg Move. And then, I hear you mention Linoone has Belly Drum, and I had just caught Zigzagoon earlier. And yet again, Zigzagoon serves us well, yet again.
@avvvqvvv99
@avvvqvvv99 8 ай бұрын
one of the best pokemon videos of all time, even though it underrates raticate (guts) and bibarel (simple). speaking of, those 2 deserve the same treatment. brilliant work bro.
@LRXC1
@LRXC1 8 ай бұрын
This video is so awesome, you knocked it out of the park on this one! Linoone used to be my favorite Pokémon 😁😁
@yukihoshikawa
@yukihoshikawa 8 ай бұрын
Shoutouts to the level 85 Suicune named Yappinator. Nice video! Some sound effects could've been a bit quieter, IMO, but it was really nice seeing an easy to dog on Pokemon getting some love!
@TheLegendofLeo
@TheLegendofLeo 8 ай бұрын
My bias for Zigzagoon aside, I thought that it was a great video because it wasn’t just a fluff piece. You had pertinent information for both Emerald players and collectors.
@deepdishdaddy3346
@deepdishdaddy3346 8 ай бұрын
Zigzagoon is one of, if not, my favorite pokemon of all time, so glad my cute little racoon is getting the attention they deserve
@PeachyMcPeachface
@PeachyMcPeachface 8 ай бұрын
Zigzagoon is one of my favorites. Starting out Pokémon Colosseum and having a double battle against two super cute 3D Pokémon with a sick unique battle soundtrack was cemented into my brain as a wee 10 year old. As for the video, well done! The SFX was a little loud compared to your voice over though imo
@jarrodnisly3333
@jarrodnisly3333 8 ай бұрын
Blue doesn't toss out his Raticate, it was funking murdered
@spacehos
@spacehos 8 ай бұрын
Another great video! You should make one on cool Pokédex entries. I used to spend hours as a kid reading them in my pokemon pearl save 😅
@ejokurirulezz
@ejokurirulezz 8 ай бұрын
One difference isthat zigzagoon is a racoon therefore not rodent. They're procyon.
@Stathio
@Stathio 8 ай бұрын
I feel like everyone's been sleeping on Greedent. In single player (at the very least) I swear my Greedent absolutely *carried* my entire Shield playthrough, and basically single-handedly took out most Gym Leaders and the Champion. I was astonished, expecting her to be just an early game rodent I'd drop like I do in most generations I come across them. But Greedent has some BULK and some serious staying power- so, so good at outlasting so many opponents just by being a greedy fat squirrel stuffing her face, sleeping and then stomping all over the opponents. Greedent is amazing.
@PANICBLADE
@PANICBLADE 7 ай бұрын
Can't forget that Facade Guts Swellow that TRIVIALIZES the entire gen. Gotta love the early route birds.
@donlyphans7801
@donlyphans7801 8 ай бұрын
Really awesome video and appreciate that it covers the Battle Frontier! Idk why, but I thought you'd throw in that a much faster way to obtain the coveted Belly Drum + ESpeed combo would be to do the Battle Pike glitch where you make Linoone's moves turn into Sketch to then learn Extremespeed (for $0.00)
@CottidaeSEA
@CottidaeSEA 7 ай бұрын
Zigzagoon is also one of the cutest of all time
@7RStudios
@7RStudios 8 ай бұрын
Zigzagoon is one of my very favorite pokemon of all time. I get weird looks when I tell people that. But it just has such a great design. It was a core member on my team in Ruby and i spent hours using Covet with my Linoone to collect HeartScales from Luvdiscs simply because I could. It also became my core team member in Little Cup when I played semi competitively. We love Zigzagoon in this house.
@MerkhVision
@MerkhVision 8 ай бұрын
Great vid showing off the many great overlooked capabilities of Zigzagoon! But I just can’t get over how Linoone’s design looks like a worse version of Furret :/ Zigzagoon looks different but better than Sentret, but Furret looks like a better version of Linoone!
@Kyouko1269
@Kyouko1269 7 ай бұрын
You're my favourite Pokémon KZbinr, always great vids!
@KingKoral
@KingKoral 7 ай бұрын
Thanks to this little 'goon I've understood the sheer power of an early Pickup Pokemon. More points for common right from the start and being capable of learning a lot of HMs. Meowth in FR/LG, Pachirisu/Aipom in DPPt, Lillipup in gen V games, Bunnelby in X/Y... They all became my auto-includes thanks to this little fella. Altough in terms of in-game teams I wish there were more Pokemon being able to become powerhouses later in the game so leveling up for better Pickup tiers would be more fun and didn't feel like playing with a team of 5. I might be wrong but in my experience only Linoone, Ambipom and Diggersby share this distinction of being fully evolved Pickup users.
@itzcrisb6689
@itzcrisb6689 8 ай бұрын
zigzagoon has been a favorite of mine since gen 3. and even more so now with its regional form. ziggy is forever a legend on my team.
@pmbo8
@pmbo8 8 ай бұрын
What else could have we expected of the Honey Badger pokemon! 😼😸
@BlackRaven6695
@BlackRaven6695 8 ай бұрын
The virgin HM Zigzagoon vs the chad HM Corphish.
@smak9002
@smak9002 8 ай бұрын
Droomish with the Magdalena Bay zigzagoon fancam. It's why you're the best pokemon youtuber 🙌🙌
@TheNeonLynx
@TheNeonLynx 8 ай бұрын
This definitely misses the fact that linoone also got a fairly good hidden ability in Gen 5 and then regaining Extreme speed in Gen 7 making it stand out even more. With a tiny bit of set up it could keep up in UU and OU again 4 gens later. belly drum and either a berry to regain full health or a flame orb to increase speed with hard to counter coverage. It realistically needs 1 free turn to sweep an entire team in Gen 7 if it gets the chance. Ofc it fell off in gen 9 because of powercreep.
@exquiewhale
@exquiewhale 5 ай бұрын
Not the Magdelena Bay song cameo!!! ❤ obsessed
@NostalJackMusic
@NostalJackMusic 8 ай бұрын
Zigzagoon has always been one of my favorites, so I love this deep dive on my boy 🥹 more of this, please!
@riverresident4769
@riverresident4769 8 ай бұрын
Obstagoon deserves a mention
@deanpetersen8691
@deanpetersen8691 6 ай бұрын
For a nuzlocke I did in SoulSilver I had a furret who happened to not fall behind in levels. Thanks to the move tutor giving him headbutt he could always deal serious damage, and with sucker punch + picking up the TM for shadow claw he was able to sweep through Morty’s gym completely untouched
@SerFondue
@SerFondue 8 ай бұрын
Rattata is my personal favorite rat. But zigzagoon was done proper justice here on this glorious day. Well done sir, well done
@superkonijn988
@superkonijn988 8 ай бұрын
Watchog has also a somewhat of a redemption arc story for being one of the best pokémon to find and catch pokémon with due its ability illuminate increasing the encounter rate of wild pokémon and it learning moves like hypnosis, thunder wave and super fang to safely weaken wild pokémon regardless of level. An immense help when you try to shiny hunt in gen 5, it covers pretty much all you need for the majority of targets.
@Xigzagamer
@Xigzagamer 8 ай бұрын
It took me many years, but one day I realized Zigzagoon was my favorite Pokémon. The companion that was always there for me in Emerald, no matter how my team changed.
@RoyalWreckingBall
@RoyalWreckingBall 8 ай бұрын
For in-game runs, the strongest rats are Greedent(can basically win every battle in the game on its own, it is insanely strong), Simple Bibarel(setup sweeper) and Galarian Zigzagoon. Furret is also surprisingly super good in Gen 2 thanks to the mechanics(Stat Exp and Badges), but has been trash since.
@AhmedX8
@AhmedX8 8 ай бұрын
Back to full videos! Love to see it.
@prodigiousbeet516
@prodigiousbeet516 8 ай бұрын
This is, without the doubt, among the greatest rats of our time, even up there with the Great Rat Detective.
@serenitynow85
@serenitynow85 8 ай бұрын
Makes me happy to see my favorite route 1 rat pokémon get some recognition
@gavinaaric
@gavinaaric 8 ай бұрын
What a goated Zigzagoon/Linoone supporter
@Calaveso
@Calaveso 8 ай бұрын
Magdalena Bay - Killshot In case anyone asks.
@MuncilJonathan
@MuncilJonathan 8 ай бұрын
I love the way this video highlights fluctuating dichotomy between Rattus and Aves (That's "rat" and "bird" for those that have yet to begin their studies in Latin)
@ReliableDiamondThug
@ReliableDiamondThug 7 ай бұрын
This encouraged me to try out zigzagoon in my current emerald playthrough. Was going to trade over a zangoose from ruby as my final member, but saw this video and grabbed the egg from pokemon box. definitely a bigger powerhouse than I had thought. threw a pp max on that extreme speed, and let it rip. Makes me want to run a Mightyena in my next gen 3 playthrough to see how it fares in comparison. Will try to breed another zig with trick for that battle frontier strat, too.
@TinyLordCthulhu
@TinyLordCthulhu 8 ай бұрын
I admit I just used it as an HM slave, but Linoone has helped many times in battle with Rock Smash, dropping the defense of Pokemon, and the powerful attacks of Strength and Surf. Its ability to pick up items is so helpful like getting pokeballs and health items making me not waste money on them. Also once in a blue moon getting a King's Rock is very helpful for flinching Pokemon.
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