Why This Was The Best Heel Turn Ever

[@bdo333]

Had us booing a guy with leukemia

[@TribalChief6378]

No he was a great heel

[@dicekash10]

U was not us

[@bdo333]

@@TribalChief6378 I agree.

[@bdo333]

@@dicekash10 ok

[@abelsomili4830]

Seth Rollins turning on the Shield has to be top 5 imo.

[@kkirk1381]

We can’t forget the Shawn Michaels turn on Marty Jannetty (sweet chin music).

[@retroesso]

Still haven’t forgiven Shawn for that

[@DeaconX7]

Jannetty clearly jumped through that window

[@JayeWillMedia]

Bobby Heenan didn’t ruin the Hogan moment because the character had ALWAYS BEEN ANTI-Hogan. Even when Hogan was good Heenan used to say he wasn’t all people thought he was

[@johnmcnamara8741]

For real, I think Sam was joking here, but I hate when people seriously think he ruined it. Would have ruined it if he was cheering for Hogan 😂

[@cvogtstrom1]

Yeah no one in that moment even gave a second thought to what Heenan said.

[@MrMack1622]

The fact that people don’t get this blows my mind.

[@brandonmckelvey4819]

Exactly if anybody ruined it Dusty did by saying “would you stop it” Bobby Heenan was jay being himself.

[@nah9538]

Imagine how much better Roman’s career would’ve panned out if Vince didn’t try to force him to be a Cena knockoff

[@kevan1700]

better? he held the belt for three years. i think its safe to say it worked out in the long run

[@nah9538]

@ I’m saying if they did this in 2015 instead of 2020. He would’ve had a lot more success sooner.

[@kevan1700]

@@nah9538 3 more 2 month meaningless title runs wouldnt have meant anything. it worked out better in the long run

[@dicekash10]

And now look everyone on Roman n cenas dick

[@dicekash10]

Like they did with hogan?

[@JGD185]

Best heel turn ever will always be Hollywood Hogan at Bash at the Beach 96 and the formation of the New World Order.

[@hayatorpg3896]

“LeBron James”

[@aks19880]

Nope.

[@dicekash10]

Hogan? Lmao

[@anthonyrivera2306]

I know Sam works with WWE in the preshows, but Jesus you don't have to glaze them for a paycheck raise. Roman turning heel was great, but it's not the best because when he turned, the hero to beat him wasn't even back in the company yet. When Vince said "Bret screwed Bret", Austin had already stunned him before then, establishing heroes to fight the boss. Hogan turned heel and he had The Horsemen, Sting, Luger, The Giant to fight.

[@fester902]

this, he and Chris both are glazing hard here...

[@stephencolbert4140]

I had hogan #1 before this video, but he made a hell of an argument

[@Christoffski]

Triple H turning on D-X when WWE needed Darth Vader to their Austins and Rocks is slept on. My Time. "Student of the game? I AM THE F-ING GAME."

[@johnmcnamara8741]

Good call, it’s one of the least talked about.

[@bigheadedm]

Triple h most of his career was a heel.. even when he was baby face at DX early in his career.. it wasn’t a surprise!

[@Christoffski]

@@bigheadedm He was coasting in a safe place finally over as a face. But they had a bunch of dudes like Austin and Rock acting like cool heels but over as faces. Not easy to he a heel against and many didn't want to be or just couldn't be a serious heel. If he doesn't turn and break up the group which he was being perduaded not to then all those mega over faces have no real nemesis. In hindsight it makes a lot of sense - but back then he had a good thing going and it was a risk.

[@iandrew6842]

Triple H is always overlooked in my opinion

[@sonofapreacherman7328]

He’s on WWE payroll

[@mma9869]

It is Hogan without a doubt. Hogan changed the business that day.

[@virgiliodantetv]

Best Heel turn was Vince on Bret that unchained a lot of moving parts in the industry best heel turn in keyfabe that mixed with real life during for at least 3 decades xD

[@spsawyer22]

Yeah VKM becoming an actual character is #1

[@Tumorcoach]

That’s not a heel turn 😂😂😂😂 he never was a face so there is no turn

[@spsawyer22]

@@Tumorcoach he was a babyface announcer... Kinda showed your ignorance there

[@Tumorcoach]

@ never was a babyface announcer irony of you saying someone showed their ignorance

[@Tumorcoach]

@ smooth brain

[@WhelmedButReady]

Dude, this is the definition of living in the moment. It's an all-timer for sure. But Hogan's turn changed the literal industry. Man was the best heel talent of the decade.

[@jamalwalker04]

The best heel of the '90s was Vince imo

[@WhelmedButReady]

@jamalwalker04 I agree. But I was referring to in-ring talent

[@Risen.Phoenix]

Hogan Still #1

[@flybirdsfly2091]

Great video🔥💥, Hollywood Hulk Hogan will always be the best heel ever in my opinion

[@russellmia07]

Hogan is # 1 for sure. For years he was the Good guy who said to little kids to eat your vegetables, take your vitamins and say your prayers. The pro American super hero to the fans. After that he turn his back on the fans to create a super heel group.

[@kenterminateddq5311]

I thought Seth Rollins' heel turn is better cause it was ujnexpected. Roman's heel turn was unexpected too but Seth's heel turn was more shocking. My favorite heel turn is possibly Hulk Hogan turned heel in WCW to join the nWo.

[@StayInYourPlace]

It was because we all expected Reigns to turn.

[@mykalmcdo]

I think Romans is Top 5 but Hogan has to be number 1

[@yu17865]

Ya keep living in nostalgia

[@Gyjtrdfhj]

@@yu17865prisoner of the moment

[@aks19880]

Nope. Roman Reigns has changed professional wrestling for the better.

[@meanguy111]

Agreed It's Hogan

[@meanguy111]

​@@yu17865HOGAN!

[@Irish18989]

Honestly Roman turning heel, what I remember alot of fans saying was "about time" I don't know if it was mainstream but there was a sizable portion of the WWE audience who thought Roman was suffering from bad booking as a good guy. It was like when Vince wouldn't let rocky maivia turn heel initially even though the fans were chanting "die rocky die"

Shawn turning on janetty ,hogan at bash at the beach and andré on hogan,imo, are much better

[@Ray-yt8gu]

#1 Hogan nwo

[@unbiasedjisoostan3716]

As much as I hate Hogan (with every fiber of my being), I'd still give him the nod for the greatest heel turn ever. Literally an iconic moment in entertainment as a whole.

[@robertpalatsky5017]

Top 5: 1) Hogan at BATB 1996 2) Roman (2020) 3)HBK (turning on Marty Jinnetty) 4) Rock 1998 5) SCSA at WM17 **** You can move some around a bit, but that's my top 5. Let me know if I missed anyone- P.S. Seth is my honrable mention.

[@life0093]

Oh no. Hogan has to be number one. There’s no attitude era without hogan’s heel turn.

[@Doragonrenaj]

Factual comment. Hogan’s WCW heel turn put WWE $6 million in the negative, cost Vince $5 million of his own personal fortune, and would have completely put them out of business in 1997 had McMahon not captured lighting in a bottle with Steve Austin.

[@jamalwalker04]

The attitude era was already taking form in ECW long before Hogan Turned heel

[@Doragonrenaj]

@@jamalwalker04 ECW was the precursor, and what Vince would later emulate, but nWo is unequivocally the inciting incident for that desperation.

[@Deathcomes4usall]

There’s no attitude era without VINCE MCMAHONs heel turn. He turned heel when he said, “Bret screwed Bret.”

[@dicekash10]

No attitude era with out stone cold

[@lezardvaleth2304]

Most of the contrary 'fans' who'd do smart cheering/booing also moved on to AEW in the same year, meaning the people watching the show once the pandemic lifted actually wanted to see the show, not smarks getting themselves over.

[@WayneBurns-n6k]

Seth Rollins heel Turn by far imo

[@blancomac11]

The bloodline was stale after a year. Given that every fucking roman match ended the same way. 56 cousins interfering in every damn match not only is repetitive, it’s fucking dumb. If 56 were banned from ringside, here comes cousin #57, if 57 is banned here comes 58.

[@cerebralassassin2185]

Roman probably has a top 10 heel turn. People vastly overrate it tho.

[@wasimsazzadkuasha1058]

Not Really..Only haters like u think so..Forsure it is not overrated..

[@Debbie2004-x9q]

@@wasimsazzadkuasha1058exactly dude. This guy is a paid hater

[@cerebralassassin2185]

​@wasimsazzadkuasha1058 you roman fan boys can't accept when someone doesn't blindly praise him huh? He's good but fans overrate him so hard.

[@BassOfPj]

I'm kind of chuckling at the fact that karma finally came for Sam Roberts and made him look like Scorch for the rest of his life lmao

[@JS-uc3qf]

Big time Roman glazer

[@donateloleonardo]

Nah, Hogan heel turn literally gave birth to the attitude era, made pro-wrestling pop culture & solidified the Monday Night Wars as must-see TV.

[@TheAutistWhisperer]

It's always going to be Hulk Hogan.

[@8989adis]

Having Cena turn heel would be on par with Hogan's reveal as the third man in Bash in the Beach 96'.

[@HouseofMoth1]

If you think about it Roman Reigns is the first person in WWE/F history to be a Heel who is also the face of the company. I don’t think we’ve had that

[@brandonmckelvey4819]

Bobby Heenan didn’t ruin it he was being himself like he always was with Hogan.

[@joshuamessenger]

Nah. Despite Vince's best efforts, Roman Reigns has consistently been a heel since 2012, with the most boring title reigns ever.

[@justinc22443]

You can hate Hogan until your dying breath for the person he is outside of wrestling, but denying Bash 96 as the best heel turn of all time is just ridiculous. Changed an entire era of wrestling.

[@NickPR87]

I think Roman's was the "most necessary" but not the best executed or most unexpected. If there's a significant portion of the fan base desperately calling for someone to turn heel, once it happens it's a sigh of relief and not a collective gasp of shock and horror.

[@ITSHIM1294]

Hulk Hogan’s heel turn was legendary but his creative control abuse led to the demise of WCW. From the “fast count” in the match with Sting to the Fingerpoke of Doom.

[@elijahechicagobearsboyd5734]

Indeed..

[@sarmadhabibkhan3036]

In terms of shock factor, Hogan's Heel turn is still bigger. In terms of long-term impact, Roman Reigns takes the cake.

[@Cuhris714]

Don’t let recency bias blind you it’s still Hogan turning. Just watch the Vince documentary for reminder

[@ohdoyle]

Suffering Succotash. This is my yard, now! 🎉

[@jasonpdsi]

I maintain Heenan didn't spoil it. I maintain Heenan was just trying to cast aspersions on a man he always hated.

[@evdomos]

I remember when I wasn't even very into this, hadn't seen a PLE or any TV at all, when I had only passing knowledge of how people hated Roman and that turning heel would fix him, I remember seeing the clip on KZbin panning to Heyman when it happened and even I was like, OH SHIT.

[@watersandblue6001]

Rollins turning on The Shield was huge.

[@cvogtstrom1]

I disagree with the crowd not being there. He should’ve been able to do that in spite of that crowd all the great ones do.

[@iAmLiv859]

Sam knows ball. I love it

[@DarkHeart515]

I disagree about changing how stories are told... There have been great storylines before the PG era. Roman just got it back with his new character along with Paul

[@YOSEMITEVUE-fo9tu]

Sam look like Jon Moxley

[@Debbie2004-x9q]

That’s his own opinion and I don’t know how some slow people are taking this as a fact

[@zainvincent9646]

My Tribal Chief ☝🏻

[@tcsbaseball1]

Stop this Roman glazing . It’s hogan . Hands down. No argument . Changed the business

[@sleepinggorilla]

While I agree with the impact of the Bloodline. I still don't care about Roman Reigns as a character. Hogan forming the NWO bar none. Launched the most entertaining era of wrestling ever. Shawn Michaels kicked Marty Jennety through the window. Jericho throws Shawn into the Jericho-tron HHH spent the whole show trying to find out who attacked Shawn, and it was him. HHH revealed he made Rikishi attack Austin with a car. Seth turned on the Sheild Seth cashing in at WM

[@joshuadedeaux8102]

Easy to maintain 4 years when you only wrestle 4 times a year

[@sdd619]

Na still Hogan. I expected Roman to turn at some point.

[@wpflesh6510]

Hogan’s is STILL the best of all time…..It moved numbers not seen since and for 84 weeks it moved the world leader of the industry to 2nd place…..Dare i say if WCW had not been just a holding in a mega corporations portfolio with better leadership….Hogan’s heel turn may have sent WWF out of business

[@sharpshooter63]

I feel Sam has a lot of recency bias with some of his answers

[@coryspeight2554]

Hogan #1.... I mean it was on mainstream breaking news and had grown men that didn't even follow wrestling shook. Shawn #2 just because of cool it was, the kick, the glass, the magazine rip.

[@herbpalindrome]

nWo Hogan > Roman Empire Roman… not even close

[@crunchytaco4472]

Vince McMahon and the screw job

[@ShaloomKhokhar-l8d]

Best heel turn was of Seth Rollins

[@wasimsazzadkuasha1058]

Good Joke..

[@vinnyscaramuzzino8088]

Hogan.

[@MrTbomb69]

Dude you’re such a homer. There is NO WAY that is a higher heel turn than Hogan. 🙄🙄🙄

[@LilToastedGhosted]

It's his opinion. Cry.

[@Juan-y3c2n]

No

[@MetalThrashingMan13]

☝️

[@Simonskilamb]

What is he smoking?? Bad take. Nobody other than the diehards who kept watching through the worst of it all really cared about Roman Reigns' reign until the very end.

[@flyoutchase]

Roman Reigns heel turn got the WWE a 5 billion dollar deal from Netflix

[@sthbmc5963]

The UFC merger, Netflix wanting to get into affordable sports content (they signed a two-game NFL contract for Christmas Day in August), and a lot of admitted convincing was required from both the TKO President and their CEO to land WWE that deal.

[@Knobslobber11]

Chris you're credible enough to be bringing these marks that are nobodies.

[@jrcrit8843]

Be quiet bozo. It’s his platform

[@Knobslobber11]

@jrcrit8843 that doesn't mean it should be given to marks like you

[@jrcrit8843]

@@Knobslobber11 lmao you’re a bum on the internet trying to tell somebody else what to do with their platform. If he wants to have guests of all kinds on his platform, who is a nobody like you to say otherwise

[@ArtsyAllAround]

Chris brought in so many different people in just the last few months, it’s fine to bring in somebody like Sam.

[@Knobslobber11]

@@ArtsyAllAround who's next? Sean Ross Sapp? Billi Boti? Goldberg?

[@mattlovespeebee]

I have to completely DISAGREE. I feel that Roman’s reign (pun intended) was 3 years too long and I HATE So-SLOW Sikoa and his Menstrual Bloodline. Unfortunately the only thing that is keeping me from jumping to AEW is that I find nothing compelling about their stories and I am still hopeful that Hunter might have a plan but I’m praying for this whole thing to go off the rails because it’s probably being orchestrated by Rock the Dwayne and we can literally see what happens when he is in charge. Just look at Black Adam’s box office!!

[@ITSHIM1294]

If you jump to AEW what do you even expect to find better?

[@jamescooper3324]

I feel like you’re just upset to be contrarian. The Bloodline story is good. Solo has come into his own on the mic. They’re starting to fire on all cylinders again. What about AEW is compelling? Barely nabbing 600k views? Sounds like compelling television

[@shano8018]

Its easy to get clouded by nostalgia with Hogans heel turn, but Romans turn is probably the most important turn in wrestling history. Without it there's a good chance AEW would've overtaken WWE, given how bad WWE was 2017-2020

[@Doragonrenaj]

WWE Net Worth: 2017 - $2.35 Billion 2018 - $5.83 Billion (10 year SA deal) 2019 - $5.09 Billion 2020 - $3.73 Billion (Pandemic) 2021 - $3.74 Billion (Pandemic) 2022 - $5.09 Billion 2023 - $6.87 Billion (UFC Merger) WWE is making money hand over fist, regardless of on-screen quality/ticket sales, via TV rights, sponsorships, and advertisements, which account for 89% of their yearly total net revenue. Different ballgame than ‘94-‘96 when Raw’s were being held in high school gymnasiums and WCW caused the company to go $6 million in the negative prior to Steve Austin catching fire.

[@worstthereeverwillbe1223]

Bloodline is gay