Why Total Drama Pahkitew Island FAILED

[@JoaoGabriel-tx7bm]

Things I'd change in the season: - Make the island being fake a main storyline, where Chris could change the environment during challenges or randomly. - Scarlett being the main antagonist and instead of taking the island, just trying to win the game "fairly" (by making it to the finale and not threating to explode everything) and she uses Max like Heather did with Lindsay and then get rid of him - Changing the characters to be more normal and not just pure insanity (Leonard can be just a nerd, Rodney can fall in love with multiple girls but not in first sight, Sugar can be less gross...) - Having cameos of gen 1 and 2 that didn't get to come back before (like Leshawna, Dawn, Brick, Harold...) - Samey pretending to be Amy lasts almost all season for dramatic effect, then close to end Amy comes back and they both go home like they did (having that story being so short was such a waste, cause I loved the idea and it was a great revenge for Samey) - Ella/Shawn/Sky can be a better written love triangle and a main storyline, where Ella finds out Sky has a boyfriend and tells Dave or something like that. - Chef being present more for the contestants and cooking for them as well, maybe even hosting a challenge like he used to do. Chris also should be less insane.

[@ListsofLegends]

Oh yeah I really wish they would have did something with the fake island that could have had a major storyline I’ve got a few ideas for it I’ll explain in my How to Fix Pahkitew Island

[@apol720]

I would love seeing all of those and also seeing Beardo reach far enough in the season to open up to the rest of the people left would be a great main storyline too! lovely ideas for the season.

[@EvilMeganium]

@@apol720 Agreed, In my version, he actually makes it to the final 2

[@arturocastroverde3349]

"Changing the chacters to be more normal" dude that applies to almost every character in this roaster 😂😂😂😂. Everyone is insane: -Make leonard a D&D fan nerd instead of a lunatic who thinks he is wizard -Make Ella a fangirl of Disney instead of a lunatic who thinks she is a princess -Make Dave less sociopath and less simp about Sky -Make Rodney fell in love with 1 girl instead of every girl he interacts -Make Max more normal and less goofy useless villain archetype -Beardo should talk instead of making sound effects Ect...

[@BillyWiccanHex]

The worst part of Rodney is he didn't just like 3 girls, he claimed them as his girlfriends, and that's mad weird 😭💀

[@PJ_Wendigo]

The creators confirmed that Rodney grew up without a mother figure which is the reason for his odd behavior around women but that doesn't make him any less annoying.

[@mekiyaszewdu5459]

@@PJ_Wendigo bro they could have add that the show and maybe with a few episodes give him some nice development or at least depth.

[@arturocastroverde3349]

​@@PJ_Wendigotf? Why they didn't add that on the show. Now that i think about it that could drive into the though that rodney sees the girls as moms which made him more disturbing

[@PJ_Wendigo]

@@arturocastroverde3349 hey, don't ask me.

[@yashemarodgers6317]

How I would make it 14th Lenoard- He kept on relying on his magic to work and his wizard tower collapsed as it was poorly made Dave and sky make an alliance cuz their "normal" Beardo speaks to his team but occasionally annoys them Scarlett manipulates max and sugar manipulates ella for an alliance 13th Rodney - he was weird and he's on again off again love plot annoyed the team as he couldnt complete his part of the challenge as scarlett manipulated him into liking her and going on and off with others scarlett makes an alliance with amy to get rid of sammy ( I said sammy not samie ) Dave starts to have a crush on sky 12th Sugar - She purposely threw a balloon at ella cuz the same thing from the show she hates her Ella and sky become friends and she joins the alliance which dave is against Beardo tries making friends but scarlett manipulates him into being a minion on the other team feeding her info to use in the merge 11th Max- He refused to reveal his truths in the challenge causing the team to lose by a vote of 3-2 as he voted for jasmine Jasmine and sammy start an alliance Scarlett makes a plan to get rid of sky 10th Shawn- he's fear of zombies caused him not to participate in the challenge Sky helps ella with her shoe and bond more which makes dave jealous which scarlett manipulates to her advantage Amy finds a common ground with sammy after sammy won for them 9th Dave - Scarlett makes dave lose it for the team by losing the key Chris was about to force ella not to sing a song but since he sees the ratings grow he encourages it Ella has a bad feeling about Scarlett 8th Topher- Same thing as the show but in the cave challenge MERGE 7th Amy - seeing how amy and sammy grow closer she votes amy out by rigging the votes 6th Beardo- He had no allies and he was caught trying to tamper with the votes where as he tries to say scarlett made him do it 5/4th Jasmine and Sky - jasmine lost the challenge andd sky was most voted as she was a threat 3rd Scarlett - The heroes team up to screw her in the challenge (main antagonist ) 2nd Sammy - the animals are tranced by ella and help her in the last challenge to let ella win Im 11 So dont judge if its bad

[@ListsofLegends]

Love the work put into it!

[@yashemarodgers6317]

@@ListsofLegends thx

[@Thrarm]

beardo actually has a personality in his audition and i'm actually mad they didnt make him like that in the actual show

[@ListsofLegends]

The final product was disappointing lol

[@zcatcher8955]

Beardo is my favorite Pahkitew character and I’m honestly upset that they didn’t let him stay longer

[@Spacething7474]

beardos audition tape is terrible and im glad almost none of it was in the show

[@BillyWiccanHex]

Things that annoyed me the most with Samey's story: 1. Everyone for some reason thinks Amy is a good person 2. Everyone for some reason thinks Samey is a loser in ep4 and try to comfort "Amy" by saying Samey is a weirdo, even Sugar does, and they weren't even on the same team. Max too? Why does he care about Amy's feelings? 3. No one ever finds out the truth, Amy and Samey just leave and everyone's final opinions are that Amy is cool and Samey is a weirdo. 4. Jasmine for some reason doesn't defend Samey when she called Amy out in ep3, and doesn't even care when Samey is eliminated, I mean, she could've at least mentioned she hated how things ended between them in the next episode or something, but nope, she never talks about Samey ever again. 5. I relate to Samey a lot because she's always alone, has no friends, is called a weirdo, and appreciates her friendship with Jasmine. And to see her story just go nowhere, everyone still thinking she's a weirdo, and having Jasmine not care, just didn't sit right with me at all.

[@darkness1983]

Things some character doesn't deserve go eliminated early Ella: She could potentially dominate animals related challenge Max: His elimination is unfairrr Scarlett: i wish she could doesn't make everyone risk their live she could potentially be next heather, . And i also wish Sky x Dave got fixed

[@ListsofLegends]

max got robbed poor dude

[@marino._.]

beardo would be a beast in the babies challenge

[@DJEKEA89]

​@@ListsofLegends he did'nt since in one elemation he did'nt go whoever he got voted

[@uglyfense7754]

Sky and Zoey are different to be fair. They’re both athletic, a bit dorky, and lead their teams when no one else will, but that’s where it ends. Maybe that they also can both throw tantrums? But aside from that, Zoey is friendlier, stupider, and a lot more of a simp- I mean romantic. Meanwhile, Sky puts competition above boys and can be rude at times in the heat of the competition.

[@ListsofLegends]

Yeah to degree I just said that I can understand why people compare the two

[@uglyfense7754]

@@ListsofLegends Fair enough I suppose

[@ListsofLegends]

@A.r tomboy yeah I see what you mean

[@amcuevas]

They're both Mary Sue's, though.

[@uglyfense7754]

@@amcuevas No. Zoey’s naive and couldn’t tell that Mal was fronting, which is a flaw, and Sky is literally very flawed.

[@herculesknight1372]

Here’s how I’d change the characters of this season: Beardo: More or less the same but give him more screen time to develop as a character Leonard: Dresses and acts like a normal person, who’s just really into wizard fiction. Amy: Still hates her sister but wouldn’t go to the stage of killing her like in the beginning. Sammy: Pretty much the same but I’d give the twins a better story arc than what we got Rodney: A guy who doesn’t have the best social skills with girls, and only falls in love with one girl ( I’m not sure who though) Ella: Instead of a Disney Princess, she’s a sheltered girl who’s exceptionally kind. Topher: Not too different but I wouldn’t make his whole trying to suck up to Chris/ taking over his job his whole character Max: This is tricky, I guess instead of Haha I’m evil, Max is just an unpleasant individual who doesn’t get on too well with people, making him a rather early boot. Scarlett: I’d keep her mostly the same, and she should be the main antagonist, but she doesn’t become MAL at the end, and plays the game as a smart manipulator. Jasmine: The same, except her argument with Shawn that was stupid. Sugar: I wouldn’t really change her, I’d just boot her really early so she doesn’t overstay her welcome. Shawn: I’d keep the same just because it’s OK to have at least ONE weird character right? Sky: More or less the same, I’d just maybe give her a stronger character and motivation. Dave: Yeah I saved him for last cause where do even begin? OK… this will be hard, here goes. Dave in this rewrite, is a wimpy but witty guy who’s still a geromphobe, but eventually gets past it after so much gross stuff comes his way. He’s patient but can get frustrated when people act stupid, and can unintentionally be rather blunt with his words sometimes. He falls in love with Sky as normal but he’s more subtle, respectful and patient about it. He listens, helps and talks to Sky when they have spare time and he grows to really like her. But when he asks her out and she says no, instead of LOSING HIS FUCKING MIND, he feels sad at first but accepts that, and moves on, maybe hoping that he can try again later when the contest is over. What do you think?

[@ListsofLegends]

Literally the season we should have gotten 👏

[@danstolte8102]

One of the problems with the season is that literally 11 of the 14 characters were filler.

[@ListsofLegends]

Haha lol frrrr

[@johnnyboi290]

Yeah and most of the characters weren't even interesting

[@nicks.857]

I would like to see a fixing series

[@ListsofLegends]

Good to hear I’m sure it will be here before we know it

[@Masked_Mastermind]

Reunion was basically that until it got taken down.

[@fleksnes9933]

@@Masked_Mastermind because two official seasons are coming soon

[@Masked_Mastermind]

@@fleksnes9933 That’s not why it got taken down though.

[@jamsteranimations5582]

my favorite character for pahkitew island was Max cuz of his little evil shtick, I thought it was funny, he wasn’t really good at challenges and he was dumb, but he had his moments. Though his elimination in scarlet fever was unfair in my book

[@ListsofLegends]

He is good at his comical relief I’ll say that

[@Al-nq8pl]

@@ListsofLegends pahkitew was a good season kinda all stars was just Mad

[@Al-nq8pl]

@@ListsofLegends also is it just me who likes dave!?!

[@Crazybenbros8988]

I feel like Dave is a worse version of Cody, because both of them tried to date the runner-up

[@dougtheghoul2845]

with how long it's been I doubt any retro contestants will appear again outside of cameos

[@Velvettefashion-f9h]

Topper reminds me of sierra from world tour when she was a stocker of Chris McLean and when she was like addicted to Cody it was like Dave was addicted to sky it’s like they copied some of the original season and rushed into the season

[@ListsofLegends]

Yeahhh he does have those aspects ngl

[@Velvettefashion-f9h]

@@ListsofLegends Yeah that’s what I was just saying they kind of the copy things and I’m kind of sick of them kind of just copying from season to season

[@TheIceCreamWizard]

i kinda like the entire cast, i find them all funny, except for samey and ella, they just garner sympathy

[@ListsofLegends]

At least someone does lol It’s just not for me

[@SobbleWobble13]

Cool

[@Chocolate-gu4th]

Honestly I would fix that bringing back all the contestants in the finale like all the seasons brought back all the contestants but pahkitew didn’t which was weird I would also fix the personality of Rodney, I really love his design but the writers screwed up his personality, like I would change it a lot like reck it Ralph because he is a reference from that and maybe him being the main antagonist like Scott since I think he would be a great character And I also would also fix with Dave and sky ship, I really felt bad for Ella after Dave rejected her but then sky had a boyfriend but Dave did not even say “so I would love to be with Ella now Chris please bring back Ella” he is so careless I wish he would say that to be with someone who actually loves him So yeah, and my final thing to fix is to change their personalities PS. Shawm IMO was kinda annoying imo since he is too gimmicky

[@ListsofLegends]

Some people like Shawn and that’s okay for me no cap he was what Carried the season for me but yes Rodney 100000% needa a fixing

[@saadikgoldsmith5290]

and I was trying to figure out who's the main villain here trying to sabotage all the characters because every season you had heather, courtney, alejandro, scott and mal but pahkitiew island it was like villainy all over the place it's like the writers didn't know how to handle both amy and scarlett but instead they give it to sugar the absolute worse villain in this whole season but she didn't really do much like her villainous ways didn't really hit for me

[@ListsofLegends]

I know right!!!

[@NicholasRSims]

@@ListsofLegends Not to goo too off topic but Total DramaRama too doesnt have a clear main villain instead goes the Villain of the week formate

[@Fuelberth]

My way with explanation 14:Max- Reason:He destroy there cabin by there cration 13:Lenard-Reason:The same he made the team lost 12:Beardo-Reason:there team trust him to do th last Challenge and he failed 11:Rodney-Reason: Scarlet was the failed but she blame it all to Rodney 10:Sugar-Reason: Scarlet made him lost by being lost in the forest 9:Amy-Reason:Scarlet knows that Sammy always trust anyone so she made Amy lost the creadit 8:Dave-Reason:Scarlet split them so there alliance failed after the team swap Merge Amy and Dave come back 9 and 8:Amy and dave again-Reason:Both of them knows what scarlet did to them but since scarlet is smart she convince Sky sammy jasmine and ella 7:Jasmine-Reason: She made shwan and jasmine break up there alliance bc scarlet know jasmine is good 6:topher(2nd villian)Reason-Scarlet Use him and made him injure 5:Ella-Reason:scarlet and sky knows that she has a protection by animals Jasmine said to vote scarlet but she minipulate ella 4:Scarlet(Villian of the season) Reason:4v1 to them and chris was mad bc she wanted to control the island and she wants the money 3:Shwan-Reson:He did not good on the Challenge by created by sammy 2:Sammey-Reason:bc of ella sky helper is ella and ella made sammey slow 1:Sky

[@cristinageneta4244]

I kinda agree that Max should be eliminated on 14 to 9 bc he was being worthless

[@cristinageneta4244]

But Ella should not be in the 5th to 1st bc she was kinda weak

[@Fuelberth]

​@@cristinageneta4244I guest but its my way

[@nicholassims9837]

a New Alternative Character Interpetion for Gwen as popped up Is Gwen secretly just as bad as Heather and Courtney, it's kinda fitting that Heather's Establishing Character Moment in "Island" was getting out of the boat complaining and insulting everyone, and in the series finale Gwen does the exact same thing. Also she's shown to be quite superficial as she frequently clings to snap judgements about people in spite evidence that their different to how they present themselves and warnings from people who know that person better than her. She continually held honest mistakes and misunderstandings over Trent's head throughout their relationship. In "World Tour" she showed basically no remorse for Courtney whatsoever, only feeling sad about how her reputation was being tarnished and only really caring about perusing a relationship with Duncan, yet in "All Stars" after her relationship with Duncan had grown stale she suddenly apparently felt a great deal of remorse for what she did to spite steadfastly refusing to admit to it and wanted to be best friends with Courtney, who she'd never made a genuine attempt to get to know as a person and spent their whole friendship willfully ignoring her demonstrating the very behavior she never misses an opportunity to insult Heather for. Even her adamant refusal to forgive Heather for her behavior in "Island" comes off as hypocritical considering Heather has shown a softer side many times since then, while Gwen has been perfectly willing to give people who have done much worse than her such as Courtney and Alejandro the benifit of the doubt. It could be argued that all three of them have been gradually becoming each other as the series progressed since Heather went through basically the exact same character arc in "World Tour" as Gwen did in "Island".

[@ListsofLegends]

Interesting take, haven’t thought of it that way

[@austint4139]

I love it when people talk about pahkitiew island it’s the most underrated season in my opinion

[@ListsofLegends]

Lol something that’s not all stars

[@schemar17]

For some reason they keep going back to the island setting even with the reboot. I honestly feel like they peaked with world tour with the singing and going around the world and everything after season 3 wasn't all that good besides ridiculous race.

[@ListsofLegends]

Yeah I’m assuming because it’s the most recognizable

[@thepaladin4335]

Honestly I agree with what u said abt Skarlet… would have LOVED HER if she was able to use her strategies better… and literally that evil episode should’ve been Skarlet using Max instead… if max succeeds, she steals the money from him… if he fails … ig everything happens the same way… kinda but with max getting eliminated…. Skarlet could’ve been a final 4 contestant at least 🤦🏾‍♂️

[@ListsofLegends]

Yeah I give them some credit for building her up but they executed her evil side all in one go big mistake

[@leeannhustead1946]

I've already know how to fix TDPI if I were in charge: Fixing Dave and Sky, by having Sky trying to tell Dave why she can't date him before and after the challenge, until Dave gets eliminated by telling him she has a boyfriend but she was going to break up with him if she wins or gets eliminated and call him out for not taking the time to hear her out, it would've save a lot of trouble. Having Amy and Samey be the final two, with everyone from the first, second and the Ridonculous Race returning to cheer them on in the stands, and Any continues to belittle Samey until she snaps and calls out Amy again by yelling at her "Why do you have to hate me and think you're better than me just because I took 17 minutes to come out" and she's only going to win to show Amy she's not better than her and even says tells her if she wins, Amy will have to treat her with respect. Jasmine even stands up for Samey by explaining to everyone. Everyone even Heather and Alejandro left Amy's side because even they think Amy's reason on why she hates her twin is cold and stupid and Anne Maria saying "Girl, your twin may not be good as you but she's still people". The only people still on Amy's stand are: Courtney, Stephanie, the Ice Dancers, Sugar, Scarlett, Jo, Scott, Lightning and Max, Amy and Samey get to choose at least three helpers and Samey wins in Canada, USA and Amy for Brazil and Bulgaria. In Samey's ending she splits her money with everyone even Amy making her soften up to her twin sister a little bit. In Amy's ending she's not sharing the money with everyone and she decided to spend it on makeup, college for herself and not Samey of course. Think about it Brains vs Brawn have two male contestants made it to the finale so we should have a female-female one and it would be the first season where contestants who are related competed against each other. Also I would make Amy the main antagonist, Scarlett is a good antagonist too, but Sugar makes a terrible one. I'm having the TDRR cast join in and cheer for one of the twins because why not. Fixing Jasmine, look, Jasmine may be one of the most tolerable characters but she did got angry at Shawn for hitting her with a dueling stick when that's part of the challenge and they're on separate teams and she was projecting her problem onto Sky by saying Dave is the enemy. During challenges sure since Sky and Max switched teams during This Is The Pits. but before and after the challenge, Jasmine should've minded her own business. I think that's all I have for this

[@ListsofLegends]

Very nicely fixed 🔨

[@aidenlychannel]

What about the people on Samey’s side?

[@leeannhustead1946]

@@aidenlychannel They all remain on Samey's side

[@P.Doughboy]

I'm rewatching all your vids and this is a continuation of my fixing the personalities and I'm making an elimination order but with changes like Topher being the main antagonist and Max loving supervillain comic books last but not least Leonard being a sheltered kid so he likes fantasy and cosplaying since he couldn't go out much (like Cameron and Harold mixed) This season would also be like island in some of the eliminations, but it would like survivor mixed with some sci fi. I would also make this the second half of roti and make these characters and roti characters have 2 seasons together for more development. 14th Sugar (she didn't pay attention to the challenge and kept farting making everybody disgusted) 13th Leonard (got evacuated after falling off a cliff and since he was very skinny and frail broke almost every bone in his body) 12th Amy (tried to manipulate Samey but Samey decided to rig the votes (like Harold did) after Amy convincing people to vote for Samey) 11th Beardo (Beardo didn't really talk much and after not communicating in the challenge gets booted) 10th Dave (He was a clean freak and wouldn't do the challenge like a really gross challenge, so he got voted out) 9th Samey (Samey has a lot of development but she got booted after being considered a social threat) MERGE (merge would be one episode earlier) (Rodney, Ella, Topher, Scarlett, Max, Jasmine, Sky and Shawn) 8th Ella (She got kicked out of the show after her singing made the island start malfunctioning and almost made it explode so Chris booted her) 7th Max (his nerd stuff and constant blabbing about being the greatest supervillain ever and being evil got really annoying to everybody else and they voted him he warns them about Scarlett and Topher) 6th Scarlett (Since Topher won the challenge (Topher is like heather but not mean in merge) they decided to vote off Shawn, but he had the invincibility statue which meant Scarlett got booted.) 5th Rodney (He lost the purge challenge like DJ did so everybody said Farwell and he got out) 4th Jasmine (It was Topher's sole vote, so he voted off Jasmine) 3rd Topher (It was the dare challenge and he slowly but surely embarrassed himself so much to the point he was a laughingstock which made him go so insane he decided to quit. Shawn and Sky had a lot of those skip dare bottles. 1st / 2nd Shawn and Sky (It would be like the original, but everybody would return) Also, I would just make their names the Confused Bears and the Flopping Fish not making them have creed names it was so confusing. The Teams were: Confused Bears Sugar, Ella, Dave, Max, Scarlett, Sky, Shawn Flopping Fish Amy, Beardo, Samey, Topher, Rodney, Jasmine, Leonard

[@miew6481]

I really think sierra blowing up the plane is what caused Chris to go insane So just how i think how chris is now making challenges even more dangoures so he can kill the competters

[@sonicwontletmeleave]

Loving the Total Drama content, more TD vids pls!!

[@ListsofLegends]

Thanks so much and for sure more total drama content on the way!

[@LemonEditsAndReviews]

Shawn's whole zombie thing didn't really bother me he just seemed pretty boring as a character same with sky

[@ListsofLegends]

That’s what I’m saying lol fr

[@uhhhhh-ck8uo]

Damn. Shawn was not that bad

[@nicks.857]

Well atleast its no Allstars video

[@ListsofLegends]

Haha ya lol

[@Melvinshermen]

Pahkitew island got some good idea. But other wise is not Meh. But bad

[@BillyWiccanHex]

Honestly if they were gonna split seasons, making All Stars be Season 4.5, and Pahkitew be Season 5, would've made more sense.

[@vovax8062]

I heard that the new season are only gonna have 13 episodes AGAIN. So, i guess i lost my hope for a good season

[@ListsofLegends]

If it does actually happen boy boy they got Little hope from me

[@Lotteluv]

tbh revenge was good so it could be good

[@Nebula6874]

13 episodes doesn't automatically mean bad.

[@herculesknight1372]

@@Nebula6874 exactly, look at Odisea del Drama Hawaii and Adventure Camp. They both have 13 or 10 episodes and yet they still have relatable characters and good stories in them despite being short.

[@ListsofLegends]

@@Nebula6874 no but it just worries me you know

[@LuKAz_Gamez64-69]

“It’s better than All-Stars because it’s a new cast. If they used the old cast, it would be worst,” stated by fans.

[@ListsofLegends]

Most of the characters weren’t that good but the season still had some good aspects

[@gabrielmurray929]

I like this season for the most part but I loved it when it first aired probably since it followed up the garbage heap that was All Stars. Shawn, Jasmine and Ella were the best players.

[@BillyWiccanHex]

Honestly I think Dave could be fixed if he was a shy sensitive guy, if he acted the way he acted in ep8 the whole show, he would've been some what likeable. Because starts the show as a "normal guy" and is sarcastic, and they try too hard to make him the new Noah, and later he becomes so whiney, that it feels like he's losing his sanity is becoming weirdly obsessed with Sky. When he cries about it, it feels like he's guilting her. Even saying weird stuff like, "she wants me, but why does she deny it?" If he was shy and sensitive, then his crush on Sky could've worked a little, cause in ep2, Sky helps Dave with his germophobia, and that's like the only time they seem cute. If Dave was shy, then maybe he'd guilt her, but unintentionally this time, and maybe make Dave a little more mature and handle rejection, in fact, maybe they don't end up dating at the end either, maybe instead they just become really good friends. And one more thing, if Dave was nicer, then Sky's crush would make more sense, along with Ella's crush, since I can see them falling for a shy guy. Plus, TDI doesn't have a lot of shy characters, which I guess makes sense since realistically, shy people wouldn't apply lmao. (sorry for the paragraph 😭)

[@Nebula6874]

Another thing I feel like I should say is that the falling in love with every single girl thing was Rodney's whole shtick. It was just handled extremely poorly. And that's the case with a lot of plotlines in PI. They're just poorly handled but they have the potential to be good if they're handled better. Its a thing that's true for basically everything in TD tbh. Every character plotline and episode in the series have the potential to be good if handled PROPERLY. Also sky ella and samey were all trash characters for me tbh. Sky was handled pretty poorly with the skave plot just a little better than dave Samey was extremely poorly handled and super frustrating with her plot and her "Development" is literally terrible and did not lead to anything and ella was just so annoying I wished she was eliminated at every moment.

[@ListsofLegends]

Yeah if he didn’t have that he would probably would have been a top 5 favorite character for me

[@Nebula6874]

@@ListsofLegends I mean it's kinda his only personality trait. He would probably just be a nothing character who did nothing if it wasn't his shtick. Like i said it's just poorly handled. It can very well be good if it's handled properly.

[@ListsofLegends]

@@Nebula6874 yeah I see what you mean I just wish overall it was better

[@ghostplasma5590]

Max and Shawn carried this season for me. I rooted for Shawn and Max was funny af I love him

[@ListsofLegends]

Max is pretty funny for sure and yeah Shawn CARRIED

[@ghostplasma5590]

@@ListsofLegends hey so an awkward question. Wanna do some sort of video together? I'd love to talk total drama with you

[@ListsofLegends]

@@ghostplasma5590 yeah we’ll have to look into that, I’d love to do collabs

[@duncan3998]

1:15 it actually gained him recognition as a huge threat. Remember when he shocked his team with that leg reveal along with the immunity item? That really is killing 2 birds with 1 stone.

[@ListsofLegends]

For Alejandro?

[@duncan3998]

@@ListsofLegends Yes lol. before eliminating Heather.

[@TheAussieJPLoco93]

> Most of the Characters sucked > Most of the Challenges sucked > Not enough Character Development > No real Villain of the Season > This Season was way too wacky & zany compared to past seasons > Chris became a complete Pyschopath with no redeeming qualities Despite all it's faults, I still enjoy Pahkitew Island, but DAMN the series went downhill.

[@ListsofLegends]

Pretty much yeah but I some parts I enjoyed as well especially Shawn X Jasmine

[@TheDerpySmiler]

Idk if anyone has said anything yet but I can answer that season question for you Originally season 5 was slated to have 26 episodes like a full season The producers ended up wanting 2 separate seasons one with the mix of the first 2 generations and the other one with all new contestants That’s why it’s considered 5 and 5.2

[@ListsofLegends]

Thanks for shedding some light I was really curious

[@MelOdy-uk8dv]

The sad part is that Lenord came back in The Redonkulus Race (Yes I consider that a season of Total Drama) and they didn't change anything about him.

[@tendolife]

I rewatched the season yesterday, it was alright the season has a few good characters like jasmine Shawn and max and let's not talk about the bad ones "dave"

[@ListsofLegends]

He’s okay not the best but worst to me I just think they needed to turn down his mermaidman eeeeevil

[@tendolife]

@@ListsofLegends lol wait I accidentally said max was bad, I meant dave

[@ListsofLegends]

@@tendolife ohhh I seee lol yeah Dave no no

[@humanzombieninja]

@@ListsofLegends now that u mentioned it mermaidman and max are simular with eeevil

[@ListsofLegends]

@@humanzombieninja literally lol it’s the same it’s funny asF

[@Nebula6874]

About dave he didn't reject Ella. He has no idea she was into her and is completely justified in being confused. And honestly ella's a pretty terrible character IMO so I didn't feel bad for her whatsoever. And also Dave didn't want to kill sky because I doubt he'd want to burn money in front of a corpse. He probably just wanted to hurt her and then burn the money in front of her cause I don't think he'd say that if he was planning on killing her.

[@ListsofLegends]

Ehhh he was definitely unhinged I’ll say that lol

[@uglyfense7754]

@@ListsofLegends Sure, but that doesn’t mean he rejected Ella or tried to kill Sky and Shawn.

[@Nebula6874]

@@ListsofLegends still you get my point. I still think he's sane enough to the point he wouldn't do something like that.

[@jessicatapia8268]

@Lists of Legends Way to completely dodge the point

[@ListsofLegends]

@@Nebula6874 no I get it

[@marino._.]

is weird that my 2 favorite characther from this cast went out early? (beardo and sammy) like if you look at beardo adution tape he seems interesting whit that shy stuff, something that somehow i can relate, and sammy was hated unfairly by her whole team, it would be nice seeing how she could prove worty over amy but tbh i din´t know the season at first, i just remeber seing island, revenge, all stars and race in tv, the rest was in english and in youtube

[@ListsofLegends]

Sammy was okay but in all honesty Shawn and Jasmine were the only reason why I could watch this

[@Melvinshermen]

Like some idea like them creator own challenge. Or robot island could be work

[@saadikgoldsmith5290]

yeah I agree with you after all-stars don't even me started with pahkitiew island this season was absolute garbage it was like a lot going on some good likeable characters I actually like and some unlikeable characters that I don't like and I'm trying to figure out who is the main villain here I mean you had amy and scarlett but the writers didn't know how to handle both of those characters but instead give to sugar the absolute worse villain in this whole season it's like this season I wasn't really a fan of but I still enjoyed most of it but this season didn't really hit for me

[@ListsofLegends]

Yeah literally the season is called Garbage Island

[@sashaacovski2789]

I never really liked Sky as a contestant in total drama she’s just a typic athletic girl who’s good at a lot of things and I agree she’s just a copy of Zoey. I also don’t like what they did with Dave making him. A completely different person and just a simp for sky he was a like able contestant at first but derailed his character

[@ListsofLegends]

Exactly lol such a waste

[@sashaacovski2789]

@@ListsofLegends exactly bro such a wasted season man I just hope these 2 new seasons will be good

[@ListsofLegends]

@@sashaacovski2789 oh me too otherwise I don’t know there going to recover

[@sashaacovski2789]

@@ListsofLegends agreed man.. let’s just hope for the best!

[@ListsofLegends]

@@sashaacovski2789 for sure please give us a good season we’ve been waiting patiently

[@lysanderlonshadow8653]

I would love to hear how you'd fix this season

[@ListsofLegends]

Glad to hear I can’t wait to make it

[@josephlewis6906]

Can you make a total drama viewer vote on your channel I think it could be really fun

[@ListsofLegends]

@@josephlewis6906 I’ll look into that, yeah it would be lots of fun

[@jakethedog2.0]

I hope Duncan comes back he was my favorite character before all stars character assassination

[@ListsofLegends]

Yeah I miss the little delinquent lol

[@jakethedog2.0]

@@ListsofLegends road to 1k subs

[@ListsofLegends]

@@jakethedog2.0 so cloeee lol

[@jakethedog2.0]

@@ListsofLegends im sure you’ll hit it soon and before then end of the year

[@ListsofLegends]

@@jakethedog2.0 yeah I’m sure thanks to all of you guys

[@BassiKun99]

In my opinion: Sammy pretending to be Amy could have been a great arc for her, in which she learns how to stand up for herself. I can see her having a similar arc to that of Cameron in Revenge of the Island. Not necessarily winning, but she still should have made it far, to the final 4 at the very least. Also, Amy should also have more character other than "she abuses her sister" in order for this to work. As she is, she is just bootleg Heather (The original from Island, not the mess she is in the other seasons). Speaking of which, I'd make Scarlett more of a classical antagonist, instead of her turning evil out of nowhere and threatening to blow up the island. A mix of Heather and Scott if you will, but smarter than either of them. Have her use Max and the others to her advantage and then throw them under the bus when it benefits her, but keep her as a regular teenager instead of a wannabe Anime villain. I'd also make Ella and Leonard more normal teens. As in, Ella can simply be a theater kid who loves animals and Leonard more of a nerdy type of guy (and not have them dress up as a princess or wizard, unless a challenge actually calls for it) Sugar should be a wannabe villain and last less than Ella. I can see why she would dislike Ella though (she thinks she's being fake because she is used to being fake), but that should be her downfall, and maybe she could even be redeemed for misjudging Ella. Also, don't have her be a walking fart joke, please...

[@ListsofLegends]

Agreed pahkitew really could have been a great season but with no main antagonist and so many unlikable characters it just fell off

[@acebesttheiris134]

How I rank and think of the characters this season: 1. Jasmine: The most interesting character who was a natural leader 2. Shawn: Zombie paranoid but useful and had my respect. His team would have starved and been homeless without him. 3. Sky: She had her head in the game. Also, she was fair. 4. Sammy/ Samey: Good character, but taken out too soon. Probs for getting the better of her sister. 5. Ella: Sings a lot and lives in fairytale land. But can be helpful and tolerable. I still think it was unfair she was disqualified from singing. 6. Scarlet: I loved the evil laugh, but not as much build-up as the other villains. Feels like a waste of potential. 7. Rodney: Too much of a SIMP for me. Thinking every girl on his team except Samey was his girlfriend, was getting old fast. 8 Max/Topher: Both were all talk and no action. So I am ranking them together. 9. Beard-o: The sound effects were impressive and annoying, but after only appearing for one episode, I can't like or hate him. 10: Leanard: When I was a kid, I used to LARP, but even I knew when to stop. Personally, I thought he should have been out in the first episode. 11: Amy: The wannabe mean girl. Lame. 12: Sugar: Two times more gross than Owen and much less likable. But I can see why she hates Ella, jealous because she knows she can beat her in a singing contest. 13: Dave: The biggest whiner in Total drama history. He only did stuff to get Sky which only made things worst for both of them. I was glad he was left on the island with the robot bear and other deadly bots.

[@ListsofLegends]

Very accurate 👏

[@ContentHashira]

9:17-9:21 I mean, that's how it's like in Survivor. Contestants have to build their own shelter.

[@ListsofLegends]

Ya I know but I’m just saying compared to the past

[@Velvettefashion-f9h]

And sugar reminds me of a female owen at least owen was funny I don’t like him that much but at least he was funny and more friendly sugar was okay character

[@ListsofLegends]

Haha I do too frrr

[@Velvettefashion-f9h]

@@ListsofLegends yeah at least owen more friendly in total drama island but I don’t like him that much another seasons

[@uglyfense7754]

To be fair, Owen isn’t a pageant queen.

[@Velvettefashion-f9h]

@@uglyfense7754 I just don’t like sugar she’s just one of the worst characters in history

[@Velvettefashion-f9h]

@@uglyfense7754 I don’t care about her passion Queen very bad one

[@Nebula6874]

Also dave and sky being worse versions of zoey and mike? yeah no sorry that's just objectively wrong. Literally dave has absolutely no similarity to mike other than having a similar color scheme. Mike is supposed to be this guy with DID he's nice dorky and friendly. Dave is germaphobic snarky whiny and "normal". Sky has more similarities with zoey than mike with dave but it's still not much. Only real similarities they have is that they're the team moms and both athletic.

[@ListsofLegends]

I was just meaning that I can understand what people mean when they compare the two

[@gamermab0181]

Man, probably evreybody will hate me, but I like Pahkitile Island, i still think it's have a lot of problems and it's got rush but i still like

[@ListsofLegends]

Hey it’s all good glad some people like it

[@Slayer9568]

I really liked Beardo sure he didn't do much but he was a kind person plus i find it impressive how many sound effects he can do i loved when he was put into the canon of shame he made a exploding sound effect i wouldn't want Beardo to make it to the finale but give him a good 4 or 5 episodes to work with also to me Sugar was a very annoying character just when you think she can't get worse she gets worse i can see why you would compare her to Owen but it's kinda a insult to Owen since Owen is a great character i don't see why Sky fell for Dave it feels like she fell for him just because the script said she had to Ella might be my favorite character keep in mind i think Shawn,Jasmine and Samey are better characters in terms of being actual characters but i loved how sweet and kind Ella is it felt bad for her

[@ListsofLegends]

He’s better than Mal at least lol

[@P.Doughboy]

How to fix the total drama pahkitew contestants Beardo make him a DJ instead of a beatboxer Leonard make him a cosplayer and also make him separate fantasy and reality Amy make her focus on the game and instead of trying to bully samey she should've maybe manipulated her to do stuff for her Rodney make him kinda like DJ a big loveable guy and not make him a simp (Like make him a kind giant type.) Samey make her get manipulated from amy then retaliate against her and get her booted and like her sister make her more focused on the game. Ella make her a singer and not a disney princess. Topher He and scarlett could've been perfect antagonists and I think instead of him wanting chris job he could've been a great competitor and try to do anything to win so the producers might want to change him as host at least that's what he thinks. But make him a secondary antagonist. Dave just make him like Cody but he's a clean freak and not make him a simp Scarlett Make her early on an antagonist because max annoys her so much in like the 4th episode and show her evil side and make her sabotages the challenges but she gets defeated in like the 3rd episode. Max just tone down him wanting to be a supervillain and make him comic relief Jasmine shes good Sugar Make her an early boot and just keep her personality but probably tone down her bullying from ella Sky she's good Shawn He's good

[@ListsofLegends]

Great fixing skills you got there 🛠

[@aquaig]

Also, yes make a fix of TDPI, it would be good

[@ListsofLegends]

Okay cool will do

[@Total.drama.fan.forever]

Pakitew no one had a game plan,no alinaces thé only elimination that was non predictable was beardo and Leonard bottem 2 and it was focused on kids a lot thé most age rate

[@ListsofLegends]

Yeah exactly and the eliminations were so dumb I’ll admit even max got cheated

[@NOLJAK101]

Total drama pahkitew island is super underrated for what people think of it and not very many of them were as popular as many of the old characters tere from the first 2 generations! Infact there are even characters in that cast that I don’t like! Amy and sugar are my 2 least favorites in the 3rd gen, Dave Leonard, & scarlet for me were meh, Ella & beardo were neutral, and as for the others I didn’t mind them much at all I happend to like those characters. Yes even though Rodney is underrated and overhated so this is an unpopular opinion for me I really don’t mind Rodney at all, I’ve seen worse than him. Topher and max for me were enjoyable in someways, samey sky, jasmine & Shawn were the most liked from what I hear from others! So that’s basically my thoughts some all The pahkitew islsnd cast and the whole season it self has potential compared to both action and allstars. And infact they never talked the old character In Pahkitew island either, that’s unfortunate!.

[@ListsofLegends]

I’d like Rodney if they took out his love at first ngl he probably would be a top 5 fav character for me beardo could have been funny if his entire character wasn’t based around sounds

[@NOLJAK101]

@@ListsofLegends I guess the writters didn’t know what to do with those characters which makes sence to have them eliminated so early In the season! And yeah giving Rodney and beardo more character development would be lovely but I think there are other characters that would take top priority like people from the first and second Gen! That’s my thoughts but yeah having characters who just simp a lot and makes sound effects isn’t enough for them to get far! Just like they said in the ridonculous race in Lenards elimination it’s not just about magic it has to have more That just what Lenard things.

[@ListsofLegends]

@@NOLJAK101 yeah apparently not

[@bevanborges4047]

If there was another All-Stars season they should bring back Harold, Leshawna, Bridgette, Jasmine, Tyler, Trent and Courtney from the OG cast.

[@ListsofLegends]

I’m good with that

[@bevanborges4047]

@@ListsofLegends Well really Jasmine isn't part of the OG cast, my mistake but what I mean is the good cast from the first three seasons.

[@ListsofLegends]

@@bevanborges4047 yeah I see what you mean

[@ultimatederek1815]

Is there a explanation about Why there where no Cameos Like I would love to see Mike and Zoey Cameron,Scott,Lighting,Jo

[@ListsofLegends]

Not that I saw so far

[@ultimatederek1815]

@@ListsofLegends could the writers or creators have an answer I mean I was like so upset 😓that there where no cameos about the first and second generation 🥺

[@ListsofLegends]

@@ultimatederek1815 I’ll do some research on it because honestly that was weird

[@ultimatederek1815]

@@ListsofLegends awsome Broo

[@ethan6483]

I’d personally rather watch all stars. At least I know the characters in that one.

[@ListsofLegends]

Yeah at least with the fandom it’s either pakitew or all stars being the worst lol

[@Jay-fw6jo]

I would of preferred Amy as an antagonist then Sugar.

[@ListsofLegends]

Honestly

[@Jay-fw6jo]

@@ListsofLegends at least Amy was smart and a manipulative. Sugar just stupid and disgusting 🤢 to watch and not the funny way

[@ListsofLegends]

@@Jay-fw6jo very much so

[@ruthgamede8412]

They are both antagonists

[@ListsofLegends]

@@ruthgamede8412 meh ones at best to me

[@aquaig]

They should do a remake of TDAS and TDPI imo

[@ListsofLegends]

They should lol

[@elijahtorres2688]

They will definitely remake All Stars, after they finish with the upcoming season with brand new contestants. I’m not sure about Pahkitew Island, tho… As far as I know, Camp Wawanawka is returning in the season, though it’s likely it might be an artificial replica, since Pahkitew Island was artificial.

[@duncan3998]

5:28 *Somewhere Courtney feels a disturbance*

[@ListsofLegends]

Haha 😂

[@nicholassims9837]

These are my 2 cents on Heather Would you say the villains in MLP and Steven Universe are more forgiving than the Total Drama villains despite committign crimes on a higher level then the TD villains ( Not including Chris , Mal and Scarlett) But really compare Heather gettign Trent kicked off and using Lindsay in season 1 to StarLight Glimmer making a cult of anti cutie mark ponies and goign back in time and scewing up the timeline for a pretty petty reason. Or the Dimaonds commenting genocide on other planets that most likely couldnt fight back . ANd Twilight and SU forgave them with no grudges shown . In a slight defense towards Heather , as far as I could tell, she never did a reckless, selfish borderline idotic stunt that nearly put others at risk. Akin to Vegeta letting Cell become perfect for a better fight or purposely becoming a Majin to goad Goku to fight him despite it bring what brings Buu back as Misterfision talks about in his Dragonball Dissection in Cell arc and Buu arc part 12s . Or Discord abiet for more selfless reasons but disgusting himself as Grogar and reuniting 3 villains Queen Crystlist, Tirek and Cozy Glow to attack Twilight to gain her confidence wasn't a smart move

[@ListsofLegends]

I like the comparison of both shows, and I would say yes they are to an extent I suppose

[@nicholassims9837]

@@ListsofLegends and do you understand what I'm saying on how Heather never had a Majin or Grogar type moment?

[@ListsofLegends]

@@nicholassims9837 yeah I get it

[@imgayyassss]

in my opinion Shawn Jasmine and samey carried that season no cap

[@ListsofLegends]

Literally lol

[@clockguy7647]

I wish that they eliminated Lenard first, because telling by beardo’s adittion tape he could have had a interesting story, but they eliminated him first. Like just tone down the sound affects and make him talk some time and, you have a interesting character. They could have had a story we’re beardo starts introverted, then eventually becomes talkative, maybe he could be eliminated at the start of the merge. The problem is that they had the potential, but not the the character

[@ListsofLegends]

Yeah me too but they for some reason made them ANNOYING

[@clockguy7647]

@@ListsofLegends actually all of the characters could have been good, but they just made them all annoying

[@ovg_family3059]

Congratulations for 102k subscribers.

[@ListsofLegends]

Thank you very much

[@ovg_family3059]

Np

[@aquaig]

My Elimination Order: Episode 1: No Elimination Episode 2: Leonard (14th) Episode 3: Amy (13th) Episode 4: Sugar (12th) Episode 5: Rodney (11th) Episode 6: Beardo (10th) Episode 7: Ella (9th) Episode 8: Max (8th) Episode 9: Dave (7th) Episode 10: Merge + No Elimination Episode 11: Scarlett (6th) & Topher (5th) Episode 12: Sammy (4th) Episode 13: Shawn (3rd) Episode 14: Jasmine & Sky (1st/2nd)

[@ListsofLegends]

Love the order

[@pizzaroll3356]

Shawn and Jasmine pretty much carried the entire season.

[@ListsofLegends]

My thoughts exactly

[@outbackranger1088]

I honestly would’ve liked to seen Sammy and Max as the finalists in Pahkitew

[@ListsofLegends]

Interesting matchup

[@thatmellie]

Fun Fact = Dakotas old character design was used for zoeys character design.

[@ListsofLegends]

That is true lol

[@tdxnoahh_2411]

what do you think about ridonculous race?

[@ListsofLegends]

I love it

[@Shadamyfan-rs8xc]

I wish that all stars didn't exist, and that Pahkitew was another season with the second cast

[@ListsofLegends]

Oh me too lol

[@nicholassims9837]

They could bring back Dave and give him the role Courtney had in Action

[@ListsofLegends]

He’s so unhinged I guess it could be a storyline they could explore

[@ZackSantiago64]

Chris McLean is a psychopath and this season he actually does not care about the contestants sometimes he would only feed the contestants of the one challenge the challenges were boring almost every character reminded me of a other total drama character like sky reminded me of Zoey topper reminded me of Serria from world tour like a stalker skin Davies relationship remind me of calling Siena and Cody relationship from world tour this season is not going to have any more lovers in this season is the worst I’ve ever seen other than all stars

[@ListsofLegends]

Yeah he is 100% at his worst here

[@ZackSantiago64]

@@ListsofLegends And chefs doesn’t even get like over 10 lines this seasons

[@bevanborges4047]

@@ListsofLegends Absolutely. If you want more proof that he doesn't care for the contestants that much here are some more actions that indicate this: 1. Chris did not feed his interns for a week just for a challenge in an episode widely considered the worst in the show's history. 2. Chris forced Gwen to go to Boney Island just because she refused to stay at the hotel with him. 3. Chris hired Owen to put all the All-Stars contestants in balloons filled with the latter's toxic farts. 4. He refused to tie the balloons down and ignored the producer's calls to reproach him for letting eight of the twelve contestants float into the sun (though they were confirmed to be fine by Fresh TV). 5. He allowed Scott to be mauled by Fang. While Scott was evil in Revenge of the Island (he was the only character in All-Stars who was not overused, flanderised, underused and wasted or completely pointless), he did not deserve what happened as: a. Chris has tortured everyone else we see on-screen on the show including Chef so him being stuck in the septic tank was nothing compared to all his years of torture. b. Scott was already injured by Zoey's trap as revenge for causing Mike's elimination so this should be punishmebnt enough.

[@ListsofLegends]

@@bevanborges4047 oh believe me I know lol

[@bevanborges4047]

*punishment

[@Lilothestitch]

The only characters I liked in TDPI were Sky, Jasmine, Shawn, Topher, Ella, and Samey.

[@ListsofLegends]

Shawn and Jasmine were Top Tier for me

[@Lilothestitch]

@@ListsofLegends I agree with that

[@greenhillsmaster5582]

Me sees the title why is this 13 minutes phakitew island failed cause it sucks video over that’s a wrap jk

[@ListsofLegends]

Haha lol it’s just that bad it takes longer to explain

[@Samuel-nd6ht]

For me, this is the weakest season of Total Drama. The only good characters in my view were Shawn, Jasmine and Sammy and that's it. Everyone else in the season either didn't feel special or they were bad or just flatout terrible.

[@ListsofLegends]

Yeah that’s the problem lol so many unlikeable characters

[@TotalDramaStan]

I like Ella lol but ur opinion I respect it:>

[@Samuel-nd6ht]

Thanks. I'm neutral towards Ella btw.

[@ListsofLegends]

@@TotalDramaStan it’s allll good

[@johnnyboi290]

Man I'm on episode 5 an I'm not enjoying it I think this season is worse than all stars should I skip to ridiculous race or finish the season?

[@ListsofLegends]

I usually watch the whole season so I can judge everything as a whole but that’s just me

[@johnnyboi290]

@@ListsofLegends Yeah I'm gonna do that

[@aquaig]

Congratulations on 1K subscribers :)

[@ListsofLegends]

Thank you! Will be posting a small post about a qna

[@aquaig]

@@ListsofLegends You should also do a TDAS My Way elimination order soon, like how Lindsay/D-Man did it.

[@ListsofLegends]

@@aquaig yeah I will at some point 👍🏽

[@ali.5481]

Actually, I don't have any particular problem with beardo , other than that, i agree with this oh also i completely despise max

[@ListsofLegends]

Hey glad you like him though but for me max is alright not the best not the worst you know

[@Daniel237YT]

I hope td Ricky saw this video because of 2:37

[@ListsofLegends]

The Legend 👀

[@subhanlatif70]

If they make an all star season they. Should do Gen 1 cast Cody Noah (still dates emma) Owen heather ( give strategy to both of them) Alejandro Sierra (No camody obsession) Lindsay ( don’t make her completely dumb make her like in TDA) Duncan ( no “ I can’t have gone soft I need to prove I’m not soft”) Courtney ( no chart saying she’s fake friend all the time) Gwen Izzy Gen 2 Zoe ( not clueless) Mike ( no mal) Scott Dawn B Cameron ( No CAMODY) Jo ( no brickering with heather) Brick Gen 3 Jasmine Shawn Sky ( Dave ( Fix Dave. Have him be like in the first few episodes) No RIdonculus race characters

[@Melvinshermen]

Yeah maybe With Except Emma. But more a cameo

[@EverlastingSports-z6h]

Dave at his best was only slightly annoying and a tad relatable in a way. But at his worst he made me want to rip my hair out and smash the tv screen

[@ponywarsblast6289]

granted leonard did come back in ridiculous race but he doesnt last long

[@Melvinshermen]

He Was only there because of some budget issues.

[@eddiejeong4412]

This is the last season I watched in Total Drama(by means I first skipped it before watching the season), because there is no OG cast, and that cast is better and the best than this cast, and the new cast were so pointless to the Total Drama arcs.

[@Urlocalfrostbunny]

Underrated yt

[@ListsofLegends]

Thanks mate

[@davidrothman5258]

No way. This season gave us jasmine. The hotties women that worked at a relationship.

[@ListsofLegends]

At least someone likes it lol

[@blooberry2886]

Pahkitew island was the season of total drama that was just bad no characters were likable (but Ella samey and jasmine) and nothing got better and just everything got worse which made people mad

[@nicholassims9837]

Would you consider Max to be the Toilennator/BoxGhost of Total Drama or even Fresh TV .

[@ListsofLegends]

At this point kinda yeah

[@dacobylaw4721]

Sugar is what Owen would be if you make him a girl, country girl, and take his charm away to this day I don't know how she was able to make it to final 3.

[@fawkewe]

If it was written from the start Scarlet would be a genuinely good villain. Like shes a supergenius, in more than 1 field but especially robotics, which the island is literally made out of. Ik Max is an idiot but she manipulated Max without even really trying or letting anyone know she was. If he had done that to numerous characters as most of them are probably stupid enough to fall for it (all except Jasmine maybe Shawn) for numerous reasons she would make for a great antagonist. Her trying to get Max eliminated was genuinely good so imagine her trying to break up Dave and Sky or Shawn and Jasmine… you know Instead of *Chris* Instead she was just a filler “say long words because shes too smart to say the laymans term” character that made it 10 episodes in.

[@ListsofLegends]

Yeah no kidding it’s a no brainier that way they have an season long villain

[@ARPOYT]

Just found you but I have a new youtuber to obsess over for about a week or two

[@ListsofLegends]

Okay lol

[@ARPOYT]

@@ListsofLegends I am currently watching some of your other videos I think you might be my new favorite KZbinr

[@ListsofLegends]

@@ARPOYT wow that’s awesome thanks lol I still have a lot of work to do though to make the videos much better

[@SrMechaGojira93]

Amy and Sammy *need* more screen time!!! That’s all I want!!!

[@RF-4C.95]

Pahkitew island deffiently has proubulms, the charecters sterotypes, the low number of episodes, the zero charecter development, no motivation, bad ideas, unused or underutailzed ideas, and zero Karma for Chris. i will deffiently rewrite this sesson and all stars.

[@hewitt2005]

Imma be real for me it wasn’t bad but was very underwhelming

[@ListsofLegends]

Better than all stars

[@ultimatederek1815]

I don’t know Why people compare Mike and zoey with Dave and sky there totally different I mean there designeds are similar but there not the same zoey and sky are fit athletics and total Drama is about physical stragetys and Brains

[@ListsofLegends]

I just see why people say it’s just a worse version of the two not character for character kinda thing

[@ultimatederek1815]

@@ListsofLegends Yea Bro but for me Mike and Zoey are way more Better than Dave and Sky a KZbinr name total drama Ricky said the same and so do I

[@amitavrashmi17]

How I would have gone with the season even without cameos Episode 1: there are actually cabin in stand by in case a team doesn't build a good shelter both teams get food and the reward for winning is upgrades to the sleeping quarters of the winning team with them having the chance to choose between the regular crappy cabin getting an upgrade or the shelter they built Winning team the same Elimination: leonard most of the team blamed the lose on him because his idea got them to look bad and wasn't something that could work and he was a liability Episode number 2: Topher catch sugar bully ella with no reason when ella just tried to befriend her and tell about it to sky, like in the original sugar gets attached to the pig and refuse to give him to ella in order to complete the challenge, Dave tell beardo to communicate with the pig with his sound effects get the pig to run to ella and work faster in order to catch up, after losing sugar snap thinking ella separated her from her pig and tried to hurt her and beardo and Rodney hold her back (a bit like the first episode with dj and bridgette holding leshawna from hitting Harold) in the end sugar is Eliminated, after the elimination Topher see amy verbally abuse Sammy which shocks him 3rd episode: Rodney ask both Topher and max what to do about his multiple crushes, with Topher trying to help while also trying to see if one of the girls he crushed on is Sammy which he started to like, amy hear about Rodney problems from max, during the episode Rodney tries to talk to multiple girls on his team which compromise their location and make them lose while amy still tries to make Sammy look bad, jasmine and Topher work to try and convince the team to eliminate amy but amy heard that and convinced max Scarlett and Sammy (threatened her with more abuse if not) to eliminate Rodney for causing most of them to lose, which ultimately made Rodney the next one Eliminated, Dave and sky formed an alliance, and near the end of the episode after the elimination we see that Topher is actually working for Chris in order to create more drama and ratings in exchange for letting Topher reach farther in the competition and hooking up Topher with a good agency Episode 4: Topher and Sammy starts to get to know each other, and beardo and tell sky that he thinks ella has developed a crush on Dave while Dave tries to help Shawn see that their is more to life than prepare for any worse case scenario like an apocalypse or government brain washing When telling what the challenge is amy mock Chris that he so out of ideas he had to still something from the aftermath shows which angered Chris who is aware of her true nature duo to Topher and his conversation and use the challenge to reveal the hidden drama and amy true colors, in the end kinosewak loses, amy tries to make the team eliminate max who refused to tell the truth but no one wants her on the team with what they learned, Scarlett start to suspect that their is something going on behind the scenes Episode 5: using what he learned last episode Topher build tension between team moskwak which ultimately leads to their lose sky convinced beardo to eliminate ella, with Dave and Shawn Not sure what to do considering that Dave is the focus of the drama with Dave deciding to vote for beardo not wanting hurt either ella or sky and beardo later talk Shawn into voting against ella because she may be good with animals but she gets distracted easily in challenges and is the physically weakest Episode 6 Topher see that Scarlett is suspicious of him and Chris and convinced max to try and sabotage Scarlett in the end they lose duo to Scarlett plan backfire (due to max sabotage) in the end Scarlett is Eliminated Episode 7: pretty much the same just with no finding out about the island and Skave development Episode 8: Topher and Sammy get along really well, same with sky and Dave, beardo loud steps and nervousness cause team moskwak to be slower and lose which leads to his elimination Merge Episode 9: trying to impress sky Dave finished first the disgusting drink, during the searching he overheard a conversation between sky and Sammy about how Sammy wants to ask Topher out and about sky already having a boyfriend back home all this time and run away heartbroken and not hearing about how sky and said boyfriend broke up before the game started after finding anyone but Shawn and jasmine he tell Shawn about what he heard Shawn telling this to jasmine max and Topher they all agree to vote sky off which causes her elimination Episode 10: a double elimination episode 1 last 1 to finish is gone and the other is via vote the challenge is to reach the control room underground first max duo to his technological expertise and Topher holding back to hide the fact he knows where it is, get there first and use the control room to sabotage jasmine seeing her as a threat causing her to lose, during the vote Topher managed to convince max to vote Shawn duo to him being a threat while Shawn Dave and Sammy all voted for different people causing both Shawn and jasmine to be eliminated Episode 11: finding out max sabotaged her best friend Sammy tells Dave and Topher not wanting to risk it so close to the finish they all work together to eliminate him max is Eliminated Episode 12: Topher ace both his and Sammy chosen challenges (Sammy challenge is creating an outfit for chef, Chris addition, which Topher knowledge of what chef likes gave him a big advantage) Topher challenge was a total drama trivia, and Dave challenges was to clean things but duo to Chris view of this as boring the twist is to clean as many of chef kitchen appliances as possible in a time limit which Sammy won duo to how abusive her life was and gaining the expertise on how to clean gross stuff and Dave finished 2nd, Topher won overall and brought Sammy to the final 2 Sammy helper jasmine Topher helper was originally sugar and after switching amy (Scarlett hacked the randomizer as revenge so she let him get 1 of the 2 that wanted to get at him the most) Amy thinking that if she let her sister win she can make her parents get Sammy to deliver her all the winnings so she sabotaged Topher causing Sammy to win Alternate ending Topher win despite all the sabotage and uses some of his winnings to sue Sammy parents and amy of abuse and endangerment so now Sammy lives peacefully and they are dating The truth about Topher being a mole is revealed to everyone in the season after this

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Very well thought out props for you!