Why Turtle Wax 1 & Done compound is a waste of money!

[@three90blue77]

You start the video by saying you’re not going to follow their directions and you’re not sure if you should use the microfiber pad. Then you use an aggressive “grinding” method that likely caused the “ticks.” You then finish it all up by not using a finishing pad. I don’t know, seems like a lot of this was user error. And to top it all off your thumbnail makes one think this stuff is junk but you spend half the video saying it works pretty good.

[@ebutuoyebutouy]

Accurate observation. Dude's a drama queen.

[@fasttrackauto4582]

He was honest and gave credit where credit is due. This is something most professionals could use and still call themselves professional, however to take it to the next levels and chase the diminishing returns, you'll have to go with a true two-step system. As far as the "grinding" method, that was the only way he would have got the results he did in a reasonable amount of time. It's a technique that works and provides decent results that satisfy most. All most people care about is if the swirls are out and it's shiny.

[@MRony]

Thank you for this review of the review. Saved me 20 minutes.

[@GRJCLyon]

I appreciate the content. However, how are you going to say something doesn’t work when you don’t follow the directions and use it “your own way?” That’s a little unfair. I’d love to see your test done side by side with that other product you use (never heard of it before so I’ll check it out) so I don’t know if they are the same price point either. The TW is meant to be finished with a finishing pad not another cutting pad so again you did it your way and not the way the manufacturer told you to. I’ve seen many other detailers review this with astonishing results and never had the issues you did while doing live details. They also used different pads to see which worked best for each vehicle instead of just grabbing “what you like to use.” Each paint is different and will require it’s own combo to get the best results. TW is also marketed for enthusiasts and pros which normally detail the average consumer not people driving 100k cars. Lol

[@ApEsXiT]

Dudes not a pro just shilling his own product. Looooser

[@demonslayermaster]

RIGHT!!! Trying to sell his own product. This stuff is pretty damn good and a time saver

[@M.E63]

Soft paints require different methods and hard paints require different approach , so depends on the paint and this product is actually really good if you use it correctly

[@longislandcerealkiller6385]

@@M.E63 foreign cars paint is a lot harder than American cars so yes need more cleaning power through different compounds

[@bot2finger467]

Yes its unfair test. Not good video

[@robbanhalvarsson]

If you have to say that you are a pro over and over, thats a red flag for me. Pro, semi pro or weekend worrior thats not what matter. If you understand what happens and why it happens thats the key. Had 0 problems with this one. Use a urufiber and get a good results. My car is a vw

[@Nicholas-s9o]

Pro at being on his knees 🤣😂

[@ChicagoAutoPros]

Hi Nick, have you considered that the ticks may have came from your “grinding “ styles of compounding? Lifting the machine and going in at an angle like that is pretty aggressive. I see similar ticks when people use a 5” machine on curved areas on the car where they should be using a 3” machine. They have to go in a little sideways and it gets a little bit too aggressive to finish properly. Go in there with a 3” machine where you can get the pad flat on the paint and it’s solves the problem.

[@paulhamilton6013]

been grinding for over 20 years, but mainly with a rotary!!! I watched Killmer do the same thing to chase heavy defects, of course it will leave haze, you can't expect to chase 1000 grit and not finish out.

[@charlieporch3181]

The car he uses has a finicky clear coat. Look at it wrong and it’s marred . He has no patience and his skill level is so so. Nice guy,don’t get me wrong. Slow and steady gets the job done. One and done is not for show cars. I use it for all our paint enhancements. You need to know which pad to use. And whatever compound you use,you need to know it. Cheers gentleman. I learn something new from each channel.

[@philippayne1544]

Wasn't thrilled at the style of the review but this is the second review of this product that has shown it just doesn't finish down as clear as a PROFESSIONAL would aim to achieve, it seems to leave holograms not matter how soft you try and finish off. Can any pro give me the name of a single product that can, you can use 2 pases with 2 pads. It's turtle Wax. It's a DIY job. But they do call it PRO and do say perfection so some of the review is valid. There is no miracle potion. Use a compound to cut and a polish to finish....

[@HawkProDetailing]

Jason! Sorry for not responding sooner. I hear you for sure. I think going after 1000 was my goal first and that was a pretty aggressive compound goal. I've tried it on previous vehicles and found h9 to cut better but I knew I could get it done with this combo I just needed to go hard. I'm sure someone out there can finesse this to polish out beautifully, I just didn't have much luck. It wasn't that I couldn't get out the compound haze, that went away with second step. It's just that final finish I can't seem to dial in with turtle wax

[@XxSylasxX]

@@HawkProDetailing on my black suburban i had great luck and LOVE this 1 and done compound! first step i started with a rotary tool and wool pad. Then on the second step i used a 50/50 pad, and lastly on the 3rd step i used a black finishing pad to get that high gloss (104.1 from 76.3) then after prep i finished at all off with the turtle wax graphene product. In my opinion this is some of the best stuff ive ever used. sure if we could spend more time on it with other products and probably get it better, but being able to do a full car in under 3 hours and have everyone thinking it was like new was really nice!

[@abowen519]

I’m by no means a pro but so far every vehicle I’ve used this system (one and done/ wax max) have come out ridiculously great. I’ll give this credence when I see anything but awesome. To each their own.

[@danielcastorena3057]

Turtlewax 1 and done is pad dependent. Itnis actually extremely versatile! Learn to use it and you will be surprised it can get you the results from those 3 Koch Chemie bottles. Mind-blowing if you ask me, a 16 oz bottle for 25usd vs 180 for 3 koch chemie 1000ml bottles that are pad dependent as per koch chemie. Now let me just say, I have both and they are for different price point budgets. From TW one and done for a good paint enhancement to Koch chemie H9, F6,M302 for a multi step correction. 🔥🤙

[@ThaMetalMan]

Can't complain if you don't fallow the directions. Also that was a TON of compound to use. This is why I watch Apex Detail... Nice camera work though

[@HawkProDetailing]

I've used it a bunch. Didn't really get a ton of cut with 3 or 4 drops. My issue with this product is in the finishing

[@mikeyp2447]

This is the guy you get when searching for the “cheaper detailer”

[@jamesbiedlar590]

If you cant use something properly...best to stay away from it.

[@Carlos.Rivera]

@@mikeyp2447 looks the dislikes lol

[@TheTyisawesome]

@@HawkProDetailing Gotta change pads for finishing... It's in the directions!!

[@kevindavis9550]

....if you wont be opening the bottle again...you can send it to me.... just sayin

[@jhimmelberger5371]

Is this video a Saturday Night Live skit?

[@johnbeck4216]

As you explained.....you didn’t follow the application instructions. Makes this a completely irrelevant test.

[@HawkProDetailing]

Not really. I didn't follow "instructions"...and I got 1000k out. That's not my issue with the product. It just doesn't finish down the way I want

[@curse6of6me6]

@@HawkProDetailing use other products that claim the claim the same result the exact same way. K go

[@kevinknotts6337]

I think you just confirmed to me that it does work and that I’d get pretty good results on my 2010 daily driven pick up truck. Truck was just repainted and is not garaged. If my paint shined anywhere close to what you did here I’d be ecstatic. If I could get that with one product that’s a win for me.

[@dlaz90]

Use it improperly, then bash the product. Lol. So much for honesty.... People, I'm a detailer. I use this product. Its cheap. It's quick. It's effective.

[@HawkProDetailing]

It's a solid product but I wouldn't call it cheap. Per Oz it's actually about the same as h9 from koch chemie

[@michaelkennedy4735]

I used this TW product with a Griots microfiber pad on my black 2020 Explorer with stunning results. I had hard water stains all over it from my sprinklers. The title of this video is unfounded as far as I'm concerned.

[@HawkProDetailing]

Are you a DIY guy or do you have a detail biz? I only ask because I'm a weirdo and have stupid standards for paying customers....I know this product can do a nice job its just not a fit for me as a pro. I would have no problem using it if the job was just for myself as it cuts hard and finishes well enough to for sure give you shine

[@miked4479]

Why do you and Brian from Apex Detailing have the opposite opinions about this product??

[@biofractal78]

There are few things to consider in my opinion. Have you ever seen the word "Military Grade" on a product? When you serve you understand that never a product that sales retail will be a true Military grade. The word "Pro" it has been misused for advertising purposes for God knows how long. I have not used the product yet...but I think this is targeted to a market of consumers who cannot access real PROFESSIONAL grade products...The weekend warrior does not want to pay $$$ for a professional grade product... He maybe wants his 2015 Camaro to look great but he won't be putting a flashlight to check every corner. I think...based on the video that this product will be great for that weekend warrior... I would have to admit that they should have not used the word Pro.... If they would have not used that word.... Would you have reviewed the product? Most likely not. The problem here is that as professional detailer you feel compelled to show your audience that Turtle Wax is using the Pro on a product that is not professional grade.

[@Joseph.92]

Never had no issues with 1 and done turtle wax with the correct pad

[@MaxwellsMobileDetailing]

In respect to the microfiber standing up versus laying down, I was told at the Rupes Event by Jason Rose that the fibers laying down actually get more cut. Not trying to say your wrong just thought I would join in on that discussion.

[@HawkProDetailing]

Man you could totally be right! If Jason says it I believe him. That's part of what I was saying....it *seems* right to me but I could just be reinforcing a bad habit over and over again 🤣

[@sgcole111]

I just used 1 and done on my Chevy Bolt. I followed the instructions. I used different cut pads to achieve an excellent finish. Is it as good as a professional $600 paint detail? Dunno, and I will never pay for that. What I do know is that I have to look VERY hard for any swirls or other paint defects. TW 1 and Done is an accessible, affordable product that delivers real-world exceptional results.

[@tylerbates8198]

Don’t like the biased snarky attitude the whole time

[@HawkProDetailing]

I dont really either tbh

[@truthwarrior1601]

Me either, He seems a bit Haughty!

[@nicksdragon6929]

I changed my senders' identification after 10 years to show my support and respect for what TW has done for the industry. Then after reading your title and listening to your show, well, I just felt embarrassed for you. Numerous times throughout the presentation you are giving high praise for both products but then your title trashes TW. At one point you say "I'm pretty impressed with TW compound" or "If I had to rate the two, I don't know, I guess I would have to say they are two very good compounds" and yet you titled this video with TW is a waste of money? You have lost a lot of credibility with this video. But then you turn right around and try to imply how much greater Koch is by telling us how it has been your shops' goto for a year and of course, I loved your exaggerated facial expressions, and it made me think, maybe we should put you up for an Oscar. And then you continue and tell us of your technique that you think makes a better cutting pad which caught me off-guard, because when I listened to Brian, AMMO or Jason, they all express just the opposite; so who should we believe, you or the real pros in the business? Then you decide to ignore the instructions from the TW engineers and chemists who designed the product and the recommended usage techniques and instead tell us to use your techniques, well I remember what Dr. Beasley said about people who think so highly of their nonfactual based opinions and then try to prove they know more than the engineers and chemists who designed the products, you probably wouldn't appreciate it. It's fine to tell people on KZbin how good you are but it's another thing altogether to give out poor if not inaccurate information based off of your opinion vs. the best industry standards. I saw your earlier video where you were learning your new technique and that's great and it was also about Kock compounds and so it's understandable that you like a product, you and I are biased toward our favorite products, just like which cars we think are better than others. And I agree Koch Chemie is an excellent product, but so is TW's 1 & Done. There are so many different techniques I could use with my DA to bias any video to artificially show one product is better than another and of course like using a certain pad, that could be a whole other video. Using your techniques you showed us that Koch Chemie if graded on a scale, was about a 95 out of 100 and TW was about a 94 or 95 out of a 100 and that puts them both solidly in the A category. There seems to be a lot of contradictions in your opinions. Bottom line your use of click bait does not live up to your past videos.

[@henryfreeman6113]

What did Oscar do? Genuinely wondering lol

[@HawkProDetailing]

Mr Kyle how are ya good sir. Have you had good results finishing this product down? I've tried every pad and polishing technique I could find (even before this video) using turtle wax. On the compound stage h9 finished beautifully and tw 1 and done had more MF haze. It's a good compound but it's not a magic bullet, one product and you're good kinda solution. H9 is a better "one step" product on many paints...but I would never use it to finish unless I was just trying to shine the paint with a one step. Koch doesn't pay me or give me free product either. I genuinely like their stuff. I do however appreciate you watching my video, and I enjoy the emotional responses. Car care and detailing is a passion driven industry and if I can give it I can certainly take it. I'm sure if we met in person we would shoot the breeze and have a beer but over the internet I suppose I fired the first shot so I'm not upset at the feedback.

[@nicksdragon6929]

@@HawkProDetailing it's pretty simple, the bucket that TW sends out has all four pads, as this product is identified as pad dependent system (which in reality every compound fits that description) the system is not technique dependent. TW sent their black finishing pad which gives you enough clarity that you could dive into it it looks so deep. You talked about how well you know Kock Chemie so you know what pad to use to get the most out of it and it's the same for TW, use the black one. Also sometimes I need to mist it with water and wipe with a damp MF. I also use the Rupes white pad or lake country black, then wipe off with a damp MF. Soft paints are sometimes tough to finish for a lot of reasons but this technique has been around for awhile. heat is the enemy and you're method is allowing heat to cause problems. But your success with swimming in Koch is obviously what you need to stick with. I always agreed if you have something that works, stick with it.

[@valeriavargas-ayala6830]

Is there a particular reason why your doing it in the dark?

[@6mtzhp55]

I've used this and had no issues, but I'll stick to the Sonax system. There isn't a lot of money to be saved trying to use one product for weak compounding and good but not excellent finishing. This could be the right product for you though if you want to buy two pads and one polish to compound out very light sanding marks and finish with the fewest number of products taking up shelf space. It's hardly a waste of money and it certainly didn't introduce any new defects.

[@williekang1806]

This product work exceptionally well in the hands of someone who knows what they are doing. Watching you work tells the tell. You obviously are not a professional and you do not know what your doing.

[@HawkProDetailing]

You are so right! Thank you for the feedback

[@edwardnazzaro3685]

While I didn’t learn anything due to your refusal to use the product correctly. I did learn how not to make a KZbin video. Thanks.

[@HawkProDetailing]

You got it🙂 the reason I compounded how I did is because there was no way I was getting 1000 grit scratches out with 4 tiny dots. Maybe others can. I've tested it before this. It cuts well, not as well as koch. That's how I cut tho so I took it through the paces I guess u could say

[@PumaM90]

10:36 He used the product as directed and said it was pretty good. He rattled up a lot of TW fanboys and generated a lot of views and comments. I think that's how you do make a good KZbin video.

[@edwardnazzaro3685]

@@PumaM90 there’s Turtle Wax fanboys? That’s news to me. He did NOT use it as directed and said he didn’t. This is simple KZbin clickbait.

[@attention2detailswchelsea]

Isn't Porsche paint on the soft side? In my experience it has been and so you might need to finish down with a softer pad, just a thought. Microfiber would definitely mar and then from there I would try the black or a white pad to finish down and remove micro marring. But its hard to say as every vehicle is a little different.

[@HawkProDetailing]

I've been inundated by criticism lol so it's possible a different pad would have been better. The stuff cuts quite well, I've just been bummed about getting hazy finishes with it over about a handful of cars with different pads. I feel like a stiff pad can finish finicky paint pretty well, but like you said every paint is different

[@Ichabod_Jericho]

Speed 6 with a microfiber is too much heat! Fine for getting a nasty scratch though. Turtle wax is ok for weekend warriors but customers happily pay $400+ for the results of Sonax Perfect Finish and Jescar Power Lock Plus!

[@HawkProDetailing]

I used to think that about speed 6 too...idk it just depends on technique. I definitely try to avoid heat but a little bit is okay...I rarely push it

[@wrightvideos2011]

So, it doesn’t work for you means it doesn’t work at all? Just like all detailers aren’t created equal, same with detailing products. All painted surfaces aren’t the same, so this product may or may not work for all painted surfaces. I’ve used it on my car and yes it didn’t totally get rid of all imperfections, but I did like it.

[@detaildivision]

Thanks for the prep wipe, too many fail to use this for the sake of REALITY

[@Jeff_Seely]

I gave 1andDone a shot, with a Lake Country Orange Pad and I got holograms from it and had to run a second step. Sometimes , if you try to take the easy way out and the cheap road, you take twice as long and spend twice as much. If you are satisfied with less than excellent results than maybe you'd be happy with this stuff. It will do that for you...

[@indyrock8148]

One and done is fantastic. Use it right.

[@BrianAndersonTT]

I can't believe he used the 911 to test the sanding 😅

[@gregkimura5906]

I thought the same thing, but then I thought that maybe the panel had some damage??? I know we're supposed to keep as much clear on the car as we can and sanding 1000 grit isn't going to accomplish that! So maybe he was fixing a flaw. Let's hope so.

[@AntEloftheHouseofEl]

Just to play devil's advocate here (and im not recommending the TW 1 & Done as its way overpriced here in the UK. The equivalent of $42) but I do think you would have been better off running that second step with a finishing pad for the 1 & Done rather than the Lake Country CCS yellow pad. There is just something about that platelet technology they use that makes it such an aggressive cut. In fact, for me, I'd have attacked that 1000 grit with the yellow CCS pad and then followed up with an outright finishing pad. I wouldnt use a microfiber pad with 1 & Done unless I was mowing down really. Would be interested to see what results you get if you have an old panel laying around you could try it on.

[@M.E63]

It is expensive in U.K £30 but I was able to get one for £15 and that’s a great price , might be better off buying a cheaper one step compound , scholl s20 is £20 or menzerna is similar price or even auto finnese

[@petedetraglia4776]

Turtle wax one and done and 3D One are my go to and they both work great with a URO 50/50 pad...

[@andywazy4383]

I literally just finished use the turtle wax compound on a large sized suv and I would agree with you! It’s not the best!! If you go through all the prep work you might as well use the best cut/finish products out there and from what I see this compound is not as good as previous ones I’ve used!

[@DetailingandtheBeast]

Firstly I dont actually think the title matches the content - your vid isnt as brutal as the title. Second, you actually found the same results I did! In my vid I have a better close up of the results, I worked it and found the results were still quite hazy. I even recommended Koch M3.02 too 😂 as I say it 100% requires some more precise finishing down. Overall, I dont think this is overly critical (bar that vid title), I think it's real, if people want sponsored content there is plenty out there. 👍

[@El-Padre-Rafa]

finally a detailer who did not allow himself to be bribed! 🤔

[@HawkProDetailing]

Trying to keep it real man. Seems like everybody out there is so stoked on free products and/or paid content that everything is positive. Don't get me wrong, if you can turn youtube into a money source I can't hate. This channel takes a long time...30 hours to shoot and edit a video? I'm not working for free so I wanna make money too. But I'm trying to be real and not seem like a paid hack... it's a balance for sure. With that said, it's my understanding that turtle wax doesn't pay creators. They did send me free product though, as I'm (maybe not anymore🤣) on their "influencer" list

[@vincealince_SRT]

Hmmm I was actually impressed by it. I was expecting a subpar product with gimmick. But 1 and Done had great cutting and finishing down with Megs microfiber pads, I do admit, if you need a near flawless correction additional polishing pad needed. But for a enhancement job, it accomplishes customer expectations. Just my experience

[@HawkProDetailing]

For sure on enhancement ...just didn't finish well enough for me to put it in my line up as far as full corrections

[@stevehinchey9013]

Watched many of these on this product. I could tell right off how hard you would be given the intro level of snark. Yes, your speed is too high, pads are very important as well.You didn't sell me on the fact that you're a pro, more like a you tube drama queen looking for hit and subscribers. When you start out with a bias, and intentionally do things improperly, don't expect any respect.

[@isaiahallen1346]

I think the take away, is that this product is gonna do great for 99% of people.. if you’re a professional detailer you’re probably not buying turtle wax anyway. But this is a fraction of the price with damn near the same results

[@supercharged00gtp]

I don't understand some of the hate. The title is a little off, I will say that. But, you were consistent with your cutting on both sides of the tape line and identified a difference at that point. The polishing was done with similar pad density, the only difference was machine speed was higher on the Koch side. I think people missed the point that you aren't going to get the finish you were looking for using an all in one product. I don't use TW, I don't use Koch products either. I have a few options depending what I'm working on to find the winning combo. Keep up the videos!

[@brenthill5596]

I use the Buff and Shine URO-Fiber pads and I don't notice any hazing or tix.

[@fasttrackauto4582]

I've learned to steer away from that high pile microfiber when finishing because unless they're brand new, they leave fibers behind like crazy. Also is there a one step you'd recommend? I wonder if a wool-microfiber hybrid would have the same kind of "ticking." I've been using xtreme solutions, but wanted to give the TW a go since I love their other products

[@HawkProDetailing]

People love the yellow rupes wool for one steps. You could use it with koch chemie m3 polish or rupes yellow polish (their new polish) and will likely have nice results. I don't do one steps but LOTS of guys do and make good money doing so

[@ionelbanu4451]

I have an unpleasant experience with TW Hybrid Ceramic Polish...is good for only a little light polish and some protection...doesn't correct much. Some producers claim things that are out of their league...on the other hand Meguiar's consumer line is waaaay better than TW 😉

[@MlleVB]

Hi kind sir. I just bought a super cheap rotary And I'll work with a Mitsubishi so very soft paint too (shes a 2year old, i wash her every 2 weeks) Im thinking of using one n done or uno protect And also I'll buy a local branded foam pad (not as good as rupes pad i suppose) Theres a Heavt cut(purple)- medium cut (yellow) - Polishing (orange) - finish (black) For using one n done would you suggest like a 2 step yellow -> orange or orange ->black? Im planning to polish the car every 4-6monts tho Thank you so much

[@trocha419]

He keeps saying professional but I don’t think that word means what he thinks it means.

[@APOCLAG]

You didn't polish where you put the light (at the end).

[@jamesd.4223]

If the technique was the same for both sides, that should be ruled out. The clarity is obviously better on the Koch Chemie side, so if TW one and done doesn't work for Nick or his style of polishing, so be it.

[@franklineno8616]

Nothing wrong with the Tw,it's you young man,a professional does not blame the tools....

[@arthurcormier2017]

Anyone can make a video and that’s why there are people who don’t know what they are doing like you

[@HawkProDetailing]

I appreciate you watching, man. And happy 4th, I'm glad we all have freedom of speech and can agree to disagree ✌🏾

[@randallmoore4383]

You are the only detailer I've seen on KZbin that didn't like it

[@HawkProDetailing]

It's a solid compound and a capable polish. I was a little hard on it in this video but only from a "pro" ....would I use it....kind of perspective. It promises a lot so I wanted to evaluate it against that backdrop

[@wilfredomorales8125]

I think you need a therapist buddy.

[@HawkProDetailing]

You're telling me 😂

[@Audittr2108]

If was £16 or so I might think let’s give a go but at £30 which it is in the UK, I’ll stick to Koch/Scholl/Sonax for my polishes and compounds.

[@jezlucas3878]

£18 in halfords may 2022

[@gregkimura5906]

I appreciate the video. I have been thinking about a one and done for a while, so I decided to watch your video. I'm skeptical, since the physics of using one product for compounding and fine polishing just doesn't make sense. I've heard that the product breaks down, thus the larger particles (good for cutting) breaks down into smaller particles (for polishing). This is why I'm curious what the actual results are. I've watched videos where it sure seems like the user is being paid by the company. I could be wrong, but I don't understand how this product could be so good. For me, I do this on my own cars - I don't detail for a living. I'm in the auto industry (22 years strong) and I appreciate quality. However, time is a factor so most of my cars get Meguiars M100 and then wax. My Porsche does get M100, then M205, then wax - I like working with these products and I know what to expect, so I stick to them. Anyway, the reason I"m watching these videos is that I'm thinking about going to a one and done to replace my M100 then wax job. To save time and get a better result. I did learn a new technique watching you clean up the 1000 grit scratches!

[@Brees1986]

Didn’t follow directions, didn’t get good results. That’s on you.

[@HawkProDetailing]

Don't know any pros who use it though...

[@functionaldoc5054]

Nick you have definitely upped your video and audio quality of your videos. Would been interesting using Rupes Mille machine for even faster correction. Left side has microfiber hazing still in the clear.

[@cody9089]

I use it .. it works for us, maybe I got a good batch but no hate here just saying to others at least try it once you will be amazed ,shake it up good and read directions.

[@myk1200s]

Wow.... I'm not a detail pro by no means and by watching your video it's obvious to me that you Were against this product from the start.... Maybe you should start over again and have a better outlook 😀

[@HawkProDetailing]

Well I had used it before so I guess I did come in with a bias. And there are so many styles of polishing...so im sure somebody has figured it out lol. The reality is customers wouldn't see those tics so it's probably a fine product for most detailers or shops

[@johnpetalcorin]

Why don’t you just use a GlossMeter and tell us the reading instead of describing what you see?

[@johnwalters878]

Isn’t that “grinding” technique also done by Kilmer from KxK?

[@HawkProDetailing]

The kxk guys go really hard when they "hammer down" ... lol I'm sure they've forgotten more than I've ever learned so it's possible. Have you seen Eron Knox compound? It's pretty wild looking but the man knows his stuff

[@johnwalters878]

@@HawkProDetailing , I have never seen him. It’s fun to see this technique tho as most of my professional days were from the rotary. That technique is well suited for that in certain situations. As I come back into the trade I have adopted the new styles as well. Each has their place.

[@andrewmalbright]

Any one else have a heart attack when he put sand paper on the paint? No just me?

[@jamesbiedlar590]

When you send a boy to do a man's job. Learn how to polish!

[@HawkProDetailing]

I'm working on the craft every day my dude. My customers are happy and I'm still having fun. Hope you have an awesome day ✌

[@nelsonrivera4976]

Jajaja

[@rainoherd2081]

pros do not wear a polishing watch ?

[@HawkProDetailing]

Sorry what is the question

[@rainoherd2081]

if the pros polish then they don’t wear a watch :)

[@Morpheus02000]

I really wouldn't like you scratched my Porsche with 1000 grid sandpaper...no matter that you can buff it out again. That's my opinion.

[@danlc95]

Nice video, Nick! As true with most detailing products, the more someone uses something, the better they get at understanding it. It could be that more seat time with 1 and done might yield better results? Maybe, maybe not. At least you gave your honest impression..

[@paulhamilton6013]

good vid, my advice with the koch H9 is to turn the speed down a bit, esp because its diminishing, I found it breaks down too fast. I always use H8 with the rotary and wool on slow speeds but with lots of pressure. For the DA I really like the new Rupes DA coarse.

[@anomalous9448]

I tried one and done on single stage paint. Harbour freight DA, orange pad to blue pad to black pad. I messed up a fender. I may be at the point of wet sanding. I’m scared.

[@HawkProDetailing]

It’s a decent compound but I had a bad experience as well on single stage 😬 that story I’ll share with you over a beer sometime lol

[@anomalous9448]

@@HawkProDetailing thanks for this. I am not a pro but have been using all kinds of products since I was 16; 55 years ago. I even used steel wool on a white 65 chevy one time out of frustration. It worked. So I am usually not afraid of anything but I am scared I really messed up (not repairable) my black front fender. I will update once I figure a way out of this mess. Worst case, I repaint the fender. I should mention the paint is 22 years old.

[@gregkimura5906]

@@anomalous9448 Sorry to jump in late, but I just watched the video for the first time. For the record, no, I'm not a professional, but I've been in the auto industry since 2002 and I have worked on a lot of cars. That being said, I hope you haven't given up on your black fender. I'm guessing you're talking about a single stage enamel paint. All is not lost! I don't know what it looks like, so I'm going to guess that the finish looks poor, but the paint is still intact and not burnt. FYI, I have a few cars with old single stage enamel paint, so I have my own method of polishing. I would hit it with 1500 grit paper (wet) and see how it comes out - watch out for high spots as you don't want to sand through the paint. If it looks okay, you're ready for the DA. My go to is Meguiars M100. I don't use a lot on the pad. Seriously, just small dots scattered throughout the pad - make sure you work it into the pad, then smear it on the panel. Use low speed and spread it all around. I use speed 5 or 6 and I keep the pad moving. I would use a firm pad (color doesn't mean anything as each manufacturer used different colors). You may need 4-5 passes to get the scratches out with medium pressure - but don't stall out the pad. Then clean the panel well. Next, use Meguiars M205 on a medium to soft pad. Prep the pad the same way as you did with M100. You can use speed 4 and less pressure. Try 3-4 passes and see how it comes out. I think you'll like the results. Meguiars M100 and M205 are very forgiving and you get a long work time out of them. Stop if you have dust forming! Other guys have their go to products. I am not the best at detailing, as I don't do it that often (though I should). That's why I use Meguiars and have for many years. For wax, I do like TW Hybrid Solutions (the gray bottle with the green streak). I also like the old Seal N Shine, but I think the Hybrid Solutions is better. And even though the new "Pro" graphene stuff is supposed to be their best, I like the older products better. Again, for me it's preference and stuff I've used many times. Good luck and let us know how your fender comes out.

[@theycalledhimfred17]

I use dynamic cut from xtreme solutions. Went from their pure cut to dynamic and it wowed me. It's not super cheap but I've never used koch chemie so I don't know if one's better than the other.Used a flex forced rotation da. Fixed up some messed up paint at a car dealership with it.

[@bradschut9104]

How does this compare to 3D one?

[@pedroescobar2280]

What would you rather use with this product , DA or a polisher ?

[@HawkProDetailing]

I polish with a da...

[@Matt_SC1]

Are you in your new shop?

[@HawkProDetailing]

Yessir!

[@arthurcormier2017]

You think your a pro but I don’t that’s my opinion of 40 years experience too high speed for diminishing compounds they break down too fast and where did you learn how to buff pro no I don’t think so

[@HawkProDetailing]

Yessir, even in the last month I've moved away from h9 with microfiber and DA. It just breaks down too dang fast at high speed. I'm a big fan of rupes coarse DA compound for microfiber and DA, have you tried it? And less likely to use speed 6 on DA, Rupes pads perform better with coarse compound at lower speed... is what I'm finding. I'm using h9 on rotary now and quite like it, focusing on keeping speed down to keep a cut level for a longer period. I respect your experience, and I hope you -- like I do -- continue to learn everyday. It's one of my favorite parts about detailing

[@randabuffer6562]

Why does my product get dry on speed setting 41/2 ? I’m in AZ so am I not using enough product when priming pad?

[@HawkProDetailing]

What pad are u using. How big is your section you polish at one time. During compound or polish?

[@randabuffer6562]

@@HawkProDetailing I’m using a yellow rupes wool pad to do as a 1 step correction with griots fast correction cream and I’ll do a spot no larger then 8 times the size of my pad. Light to medium arm pressure. To clean the paint I used invisible glass cleaner, dried with a clean microfiber then claybarred the paint.

[@mikeyp2447]

Who taught this dweeb how to use a polisher? My lord! 😂😂

[@HawkProDetailing]

Right?! Haha

[@coachtim6188]

Did you seriously just use the word dweeb? I'm pretty sure the world could use a lot less of anyone that calls someone else a dweeb.

[@AmirAbdullah]

I like the compound , I know in some cases I’ll add some Menzerna 3500 or M302 to it to finish down a lot better. Plus I’ll also use the yellow Koch pad or the koch pads in general vrs the Megs Microfiber. Once I figured out how to use the koch pads I loved them. Even the one and done is better with it imo with it. Used it with the Orange Koch pad cleanup anything left with Xtreme Solutions 496 and the Green Koch pad. Worked out great.

[@HawkProDetailing]

Yeah it's actually a pretty good compound right? I just couldn't get it to finish down...I played with it on a handful of cars before making this video

[@AmirAbdullah]

@@HawkProDetailing Try the Oberk finishing polish vrs M302. Interesting results I just ran then side by side. Very similar.

[@SBS1604]

you have mustach now , you are diy detail guy

[@H3YdUD3]

More like Hawk AMATEUR Detailing!!

[@HawkProDetailing]

good one lol

[@kevincampbell8298]

What speed did you work the Koch Polish at?

[@HawkProDetailing]

I polish slow on speed 6. It's the technique they actually teach but there are many ways to skin a cat as they say...

[@HawkProDetailing]

By the way I've tried that technique and many others with various pads using TW one and done and nothing worked for me

[@chvydrptop]

Picked up a bottle based on some reviews on youtube, and totally agree it was garbage. Can't beat Meguiar's #82 after all these years.

[@deanpedley]

And why do you think he's said what he's said about this product??....I've seen first hand what this product can do and we've been in the detailing business for over 35 years....don't give me the speal and make out hawk pro detailing is on another level...not an hater but you are talking completely out of your back side

[@richscott2483]

Auto Detailers generally have decent to top notch equipment and more expensive car care products. Hawk Pro says, the Turtle Wax 1 and Done is not bad but there is "Ticking". I do not plan on using a Rupee for cutting, polishing, and buffing, since I do not own a $300 to $800 machine. I'll be doing my work by hand. It is March 2024 and NAPA has 1 and Done compound for $10.20. I bought 4 bottles. I'm not going to be as knit picky as I just need a product that will do a better than average job without spending all day on the car. Did you know that 3M acquired and owns both Turtle Wax and Meguiars car care products. Wish everyone the best. Don't get too discouraged because not all product are made perfect just as no one is perfect. Humans are just fussy, finicky, hard to please, never content with what we have, so just do your best with what you have.

[@thestreamreader]

Guess you missed apex details full use of this.

[@PaLoHQ]

Did you ipa wipe the koche

[@razetw]

Yes to both sides

[@joaquinmireles3912]

Dude ur wrong you must used it wrong I've used it and was impressed with it check apex detailed videos on it

[@gatto190]

Maybe turn on the lights?

[@ericfleming2241]

Have you thought about doing it the exact same way with the products. And Rupes microfibers suck.

[@marksafady5986]

Turtle wax is all hype from good marketing. The stuff is not bad, but not as good as they claim. Koch Chemie is great. Give Scholl S2 Black a shot. 👍🏼👍🏼

[@HawkProDetailing]

What product is that? I've heard of Scholl but never tried their stuff

[@charlieporch3181]

You don’t have a good technique. This TW does work if you use proper pads. And comes off easier than Koch. Much cheaper and works on soft paints with proper testing. Never had it dust if you clean pads with air.

[@HawkProDetailing]

Always looking to improve. What technique suggestions do you have...I would love to try again

[@automotivefinishexperts2152]

Couldn't agree with you more the little things are to me also the big things if you want great clients nice work bro

[@Skalamusa]

Why is it so dark in here????

[@film_magician]

This is literally the only video I've found that doens't recommend TW one and done. Weird lol.

[@j.stresstl182]

One product vs two. Okay

[@toyotatundra0455]

You did not mention the price difference in the products and the availability to the masses. This an overt bias review of a decent price product.

[@HawkProDetailing]

Based on Amazon prices, TW 1&D is about $52 for a liter. Koch h9 is $62 (on Amazon, but you can get it cheaper through detailing websites). $52 for a liter ain't cheap. That's the thing, it's not like this *dirt cheap* product that I'm taking some kind of pot shot at because I'm some fancy detailer who looks down at products available to the masses. It's pricey, branded for pros, and made by a ridiculously successful company... so I felt like it deserved someone giving it an honest review. How many "this product is awesome" videos have you seen on youtube lately from a certain group of channels? Plus, I used the stuff and can't get a finish in the polishing step that I'm happy delivering to customers.

[@gerryr1893]

This guy is a chump

[@HawkProDetailing]

I couldn't agree more!

[@JDDetailing]

This guy reminds me of Jane Lynch in the movie Role Models. Don’t B.S me! 😂

[@johngaytes-ex7nt]

I guess turtle wax didn't pay him enough so he decided to talk shit and not even follow there instructions 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@petestaint8312]

Why is the video so dark?? No money in the budget for light bulbs?

[@HawkProDetailing]

Bob Ross vibes 😂

[@stephenlouden480]

wait, you finished it with a cutting pad. lololol you should stop polishing immediately 🤣

[@weaverdetails4747]

You still loving that excel backing plate?

[@HawkProDetailing]

Yep. I got the 3 inch...still deciding what I think about it. The 5 inch is way more noticeable for sure

[@lomasticas893]

@@HawkProDetailing Have you tried the kamikaze backing plate ? Esoteric car care offers It (use to).

[@HawkProDetailing]

Is it the same one? Or different. I just bought a flex cordless da LOL we will see...the forced rotation thing is taking some getting used to

[@Carlos.Rivera]

Why not use Koch chemie micro cut? Doesnt look apples to apples. Was like Sonax perfecr finish aganst Sonax cut max imo

[@amrautospa]

How I miss this version of nick 😒

[@JamieTheCleaner]

Hello I’m Steve haha great review if they are gonna put “Pro” on the label I definitely think they should be put through the paces and this was a great comparison to a true Pro product

[@HawkProDetailing]

I hear ya man. A lot of ppl were like singing its praises and I tried it on a handful of cars and couldn't get the damn thing to finish down. Koch h9 finishes beautifully on certain paint and I run mf and speed 6 lol so I'll stick with it:)

[@HawkProDetailing]

Turtle wax makes a lot of money advertising to a big crowd:) can't fault them...for some guys this would be all they need but it's not a stand out in my world