Why U.S. Health Care Is Getting More Expensive

[@blrrich1051]

I remember when I was younger, being told that our healthcare system is fine, because we don't have very long wait times. now that I'm an adult paying for myself and my children, I realize just how big a lie that was. Don't care if we copy Europe or make a whole new healthcare system. We just need something that really works.

[@kiwibonsai2355]

Pharmaceutical companies don't keep their CEOs and stockholders rich if they have a healthy nation. Just shows how putting profits before humanity is disgusting.

[@peach7469]

Japanese healthcare system, it's almost perfect.

[@blacklyfe5543]

You mean affordable

[@blacklyfe5543]

@@peach7469 you mean universal healthcare

[@harrisonwintergreen1147]

European healthcare is so good Brits fly to Poland for healthcare

[@wingn3849]

The honest and short answer. The system main goal is to make money.

[@jordicarvajal2834]

That is called American capitalism

[@rabbit0877]

Folks got yacht payments and country club dues, ya know. *sarcasm*

[@redwolfexr]

Its even worse than that -- the MAIN insurance payers (corporations) are happy to do so because it shackles their employees with the requirement to "keep working" so they are covered. Makes it hard for small business to compete with them.

[@ronanbrodrick9168]

@@jordicarvajal2834 profit over people Capitalism 101

[@jordicarvajal2834]

@@ronanbrodrick9168 Exactly. In American capitalism, it's profits over people and that's what you see in industries like the healthcare industry, pharmaceutical industry, banking industry, fossil foal industry, food industry, etc.

[@jalenad11]

We're stuck in a cycle. It's so expensive that people wait until too late to get medical help. By the time they get there, they're already being overcharged AND they need so much care that it's more expensive than it should be.

[@Flosseveryday]

Yeah that’s what the man said in the video. Your ears work!

[@albertalbert4333]

@@Flosseveryday Apparently your parents didn't raise you properly.

[@churblesfurbles]

And they wait too late to have children who will pay for it, the social welfare ponzi scheme is simply unlimited demand while we invite in and farm ever more dependents, it has no way not to fail.

[@Lisa-nu7ne]

The proportion of medical insurance reflects the real national strength of the country. Ironically, it has become a national income, rather than serving the people.

[@kylesmith4572]

@DaKrawnik420 The people who are idiots are those on health insurance and subsidized plans who overuse health resources. "Gotta get my money's worth!" .derp.

[@runshoottech]

It’s greed, plain and simple, the same medication cost less in other countries without it being subsidized. It’s the greed of the pharmaceutical companies and the owners of these life saving drugs.

[@Yochemm]

Isn't all what the US have to offer, Greed???

[@goldiefox7128]

Like Greed marrying to Capitalism? >.>

[@kaseyc5078]

It’s not greed, it’s just everything costs money. Doctors and nurses won’t work for free. In Poland there’s the public health system, but good luck getting anything done in a timely manner.

[@runshoottech]

@@kaseyc5078 how does this make any sense, insulin in America cost 300 plus dollars and 90 in Mexico, 110 in Canada and around 100 pounds in the uk, it's made in America bro, stop trying to justify the greed of these people that don't care about you. American citizens go to Mexico for insulin and other us made medications, WTF are you crazy

[@Yochemm]

@@kaseyc5078 I live in the Netherlands, I pay € 100,- a month. Doctor, medicial help, first Aid. Almost everything is free. Denist is 75% and 25% for your own. Children till 18 years is all free.

[@electrikoptik]

The US is an embarrassment. It's ridiculous how expensive medical care is there. I'm grateful I live in a country with universal healthcare. I pay @ 100 euro per month (112 USD) for healthcare.

[@cmdr1911]

I pay 11 dollars in the US and have a 2k deductible for a family of 4. Until the the cost, quality and choice can be matched, I have 0 interest in changing g it.

[@electrikoptik]

@@cmdr1911 I will pay 100 eur per month even if I lose my job. If you lose your job, you lose your health insurance.

[@airgunningyup]

@@electrikoptik very true , anyone unemployed in the US has no coverage.. people in the US tend to assume they will never get fired or laid off ..

[@cmdr1911]

@@electrikoptik At worst the most I spend is less than 2% of my income, have multiple offers at any given time and can continue payment through COBRA stepping up to 50 a month and 4k deductible. For there to be any incentive, it needs to be a real cost savings. I pay virtually nothing for periumi care on demand.

[@electrikoptik]

@@airgunningyup And if I'm not mistaken, many people in the US have jobs that offer 0 medical benefits.

[@thedude1666]

I was priced out. I am self-employed. So I looked for health care coverage on the marketplace. The least expensive plan, was 500 a month with, 10000 dollar deductible. It was awful coverage, basically rip off health insurance. So now I go without health insurance. If I do need a procedure done, I will fly to Mexico and pay cash to have it done there.

[@Lisa-nu7ne]

Helpless choice. 500 dollars is enough for financial management.

[@Kaingelsi]

Obama Care is only for people who fall around or bellow the poverty line or have major pre existing conditions where they will satisfy their deductibles and out of pocket max in a matter of months. In most cases, the two go hand in hand. Self employed people shoot themselves in the foot when getting Obama Care because it’s income based (most self employed people can’t be exact with their income year to year and are more likely to experience tax penalties than others) not only that, a large portion of self employed people are the last to go into a hospital and the first to leave because they know that if they’re not working they’re not making money. I don’t want to sit here and sell you anything but I do insurance and specialize in self employed people. Most of my clients HATE Obama Care and typically prefer to use the private market instead (this is not to be mixed with the “private market” short term limited benefit plans that leave people financially exposed). Hopefully nothing happens to you where you’ll need health insurance but a trip to Mexico wouldn’t be too bad 🤣

[@Blaze6432]

@+⁸⁵³⁶⁶⁷⁶⁰⁷³⁴WhatsApp Get more considering in most countries its velow 100 dollars, 500 is a rip off in a country that isn't even top 10

[@Lisa-nu7ne]

@@Blaze6432 Yes, it is a lot of money.

[@roxcyn]

Try directly with the insurance companies @The Dude. It will be expensive but lower deductible. Also, check with your tax advisor, insurance may be a business expense you can write off.

[@Joelconway34]

Ambulances should be free seriously!. I work hard to engage myself in someway of earning more income. My family are happy once again and can now afford anything for my family even with my Retirement.$57k k weekly returns has been life changing, after so much struggles.

[@KuramaUchiha-id1ow]

Hello, how do you achieve such weekly returns? As a single parent i haven’t been able to get my own house due to financial struggles, but my faith in God remains strong.

[@Joelconway34]

Maria Angelina Alexander I really appreciate her efforts and transparency.

[@Joelconway34]

I remember giving her my first savings $20000 and she opened a brokerage account for me it turned out to be the best thing that ever happened to me.

[@amalmberg13]

This is a definition of God's unending provisions for his people. God remains faithful to his words. I receive this for my household.🙏

[@TaslimaAli-fi1fg]

Wow...I know her too she is a licensed broker and a FINRA agent she is popular in US and Canada she is really amazing woman with good skills and experience.

[@ramochai]

One word: Deregulation. In the US, hospitals and insurance companies are free to charge patients whatever they like. No transparency. (What’s even more absurd is American patients have no clue about the price they will pay until they get billed!!!) Whereas in Europe, national healthcare systems have a collective bargaining power. God bless Europe.

[@jasonteich8530]

Actually, it’s lack of real free markets and excessive regulation that cause wasteful spending, low quality care, and too high costs.

[@phillippereira6468]

@@jasonteich8530 🤣 keep telling yourself that.... The rest of the developed western nations have a lot more regulation and not much on the way of privatisation and are doing way better in life health expectancy and also spend a lot less. Your system is broke because of greed and this residual idea that the free market will make it cheaper. Keep living the dream man

[@LittleRadicalThinker]

@@jasonteich8530 I’m not sure the lack of free market. It’s more like you can’t do anything but listen to the doctors and hospitals you chose in the middle of your sickness, which unfortunately the medical education is completely screwed up. US Healthcare is sick care, for emergencies only, of course abnormally expensive.

[@rtquest22]

@@phillippereira6468 I'm willing to bet that if you're offered money for the sake of wanting to be enriched, then you'd take it on a spot. Please, we are all greedy and it's human nature. You want healthcare costs to go down, then either choose govt regulation which needs a process of amendment or free market innovative or competition. There's no middle ground so take your pick.

[@jasonteich8530]

@@phillippereira6468 believe me if we didn’t have employer sponsored health insurance, Medicare, Medicaid, and regulations like making health care about prepayment in routine medical expenses rather than insurance being about risk management, and if we didn’t have bad monetary policy for the last 40 years, you would see marked improvement in outcomes and satisfaction. It’s the government within the free market u.s. healthcare system that make the American healthcare system so screwed up.

[@jonsmith7659]

In America everything has to turn a profit. Every step adds money. Healthcare shouldn’t be a way to make massive profits. But in America, all of us are walking dollar signs. It’ll never end so long as our country has to make a profit off of our health, which will always happen since rich lobbyists can bribe the government to keep the status quo in place.

[@adampkalb]

*THAT'S HORRIBLE!* They can not keep bribing the government forever if we elect more progressive people. Can somebody please tell me what makes my country, the US so much different from other countries for it to favor profits over people? I need an answer now!

[@abiyyupanggalih854]

Yes

[@yashpatel261]

In america you are on your own. Everyone's out for themselves.

[@gta4everrr]

We also need to make ambulances free. It's ridiculous how you don't get a bill from your local police or fire department for services rendered, but if you're experiencing a medical emergency, your total costs are already almost if not more than $1000 by the time you simply make it to the hospital.

[@denise7001]

Police and fire are paid by tax payers. Ambulance services are privately owned, but I agree the cost is ridiculous.

[@rdean150]

@@denise7001 Thats exactly the problem here! The fact that the healthcare industry is private, yet we all effectively pay a tax for it (which we have cheekily dubbed "insurance") anyway, is precisely the problem that needs to be fixed. And it is a problem that HAS BEEN fixed in most other comparably developed countries.

[@adampkalb]

@@denise7001 Yeah, how come police and fire departments are public, but ambulance services are not? We must make ambulance services public!

[@dawnwokson8202]

It cost me over three thousand dollars to go ten miles to the hospital in an ambulance.And I ended up dealing with my health issues naturally. And guess what,no more asthma etc. I don't do Drs and hospitals anymore

[@gta4everrr]

@@dawnwokson8202 I got a $750 ambulance bill for an ambulance ride to a hospital I could've walked to in about 5 min

[@raffiboi22]

Prevention is key. And it’s truly mortifying that shareholders come first, rather than the health of the American people. Look at any other developed country. I was injured in Brazil a few years ago, went to a clinic. Paid $0! And they don’t even compare to the EU ! 😑 after my mother‘s divorce, she gets most her check ups and prevention care there too. It’s sad.

[@Crusader1984]

Well prevention isn’t everything sometimes life just happens

[@johnsonolajide4647]

@@Crusader1984 Very well said. Naturally human beings must get sick. And there's nothing anyone could do about it simple as that. No matter the level of prevention Human beings must get sick, fact.

[@tiberiuswise]

It sounds like someone else paid for your injury in Brazil.

[@jefflemberg645]

Then move to Brazil? Exactly.

[@jclcoolrunner]

In Brazil and European countries, they have 20% or more taxes so it gets paid for. Government runs it and get taxes for profit. Same thing as U.S. except in U.S. people can opt out of it and don't have the government waste or pay the bloated prices of health insurance companies if your one of the few healthy people in the U.S.

[@joshuaperkings5155]

Working in the medical field as a physician for years I will tell you physicians are tired of this system. We are tired of being told by the hospitals along with insurance companies and third party companies what we can and can’t do for our patients. Despite the hospitals and large healthcare groups profiting more than ever, physician salaries are going down or haven’t changed much over the past 30 years even adjusting for inflation. I also find it very disturbing that people on the other side expect us to go through all that school and training and still work for free under a single payer healthcare program. Both arguments are flawed and there needs to be a medium where the government regulates how much hospitals are allowed to charge for services and obligating insurance companies to cover a basic level of cost. We physicians should not be in the midst of two very striking yet harmful ideologies without having a say in this.

[@brittgayle467]

Physicians in most single payer systems don’t work for free. But they also benefit from lower educational debt.

[@M123Xoxo]

Physicians should not have to pay a cent for medical school. Salaries would be less of an issue if people weren't expected to go hundreds of thousands of dollars in debt plus give up 10+ years of their life for schooling. Physicians also shouldn't be going into the industry to get rich. I lived in the UK and doctors were very comfortable, similar salary to a software engineer. They weren't being underpaid. They also had a lot more freedom because they didn't have $200k in loans to pay back. The doctors who really cared about making the most money possible opened private clinics to cater to the wealthy. Single payer does not mean private clinics are outlawed.

[@jcgw2]

Nobody works for free. In most contries doctors get paid like any other high skill professional with a salary. Something else we could do in the US is pay before services are rendered. That way healthcare comapines can't make up prices on the spot

[@jmccormick1490]

My wife just finished nursing school for $80,000. Some places start RN's as low as $28 an hour. Meanwhile, Target is starting people at $24 an hour to fold clothes.

[@angelachanelhuang1651]

you probably have the wrong health insurance

[@graphenebusinesslaw]

"More expensive" ... the fact that it's expensive to begin with is an issue in and of itself.

[@justinmullins1112]

Eh, training doctors is expensive. It should be insurance footing the bill, but they don't actually have an incentive to do so. My first thought is "why don't they get tax refund or something for paying for things", but then you have the issue the video mentioned, where they're incentivized to insist you get more procedures/testing, which is itself a problem.

[@MrCarrot14]

@@justinmullins1112 Training doctors is expensive due to a vicious cycle where realistically the American Medical Association is to blame. Throughout their history they have lobbied lawmakers and have in turn made arbitrary requirements of required training for specific professions, in addition to artificially limiting the amount of medical programs available at a given college. This ultimately restricts the number of doctors that come into the field and inflates medical prices in the US dramatically.

[@jessereinhardt6320]

It's just supply and demand. If people were smarter and took better care of themselves, demand would drop and the prices would follow.

[@theintrovertedaspie9095]

Its not so much as gotten expensive as much its that wages haven't kept up in recent decades and some have lost a lot of their value. So many people work multiple jobs just to get by. Heath insurance probably isn't as efficient as it was back in the 50s and 60s.

[@NWJF]

Follow the money. It's not that complex. "We just need to lower costs." What if someone told you, "I just need to lower your wage." You say, "I'd rather you not do that". There will never be any incentive for the US medical system to lower it's cost because lowering of cost is in direct proportion to annual revenue. If you owned a store, every year you would like to see your revenue increase. Not decrease. If your customers came to you and said... "Lower the price of goods for me"... You wouldn't do it. Your revenue would decrease. Shareholders want GROWTH Shareholders DO NOT CARE ABOUT AFFORDABILITY SO LONG AS THE GOVERNMENT SUBSIDIZED INSURANCE MACHINE IS FEEDING IT REVENUE!

[@thejquinn]

You completely left out that the US is neo-fascist since it has a multitude of public/private partnerships, with many of our Reps working to the benefit of the private industry, and against the populace. Through this system shareholders will always see growth. So the solution is to get money out of politics.

[@NWJF]

@@thejquinn I left it out because I don't believe politics and Wall Street are as cohesive as some do. I think they are both acting reactively to the environment yet both are almost lock-step in the fact they both operate with self interest. I think unfettered capitalism operates for growth and profit exclusively. And I think "government" and "politics" operate with singularity to a person's "term" or own goals. Where those lines intersect I think is most dangerous. I think checks and balances are looked at by capitalism as roadblocks to profit. They are looked at by government and politicians as added cost and complexity. Where that intersects I see capitalism lobbying against regulation and government lending that lobby an ear because it is reactive and lazy.

[@knguyen6061]

Bottom line is : HEALTHCARE SHOULD BE TREATED AS A NEED ,NOT TO BE TREATED AS A FOR PROFIT COMMODITY It's a society safety net for all citizens , a shared risk necessity

[@kotababy411]

It could change its not greedy people don't want change

[@adampkalb]

@@thejquinn We need to make sure democracy never dies! Or never dies again after January 6th! It is time to fight back against fascism! Shareholders are not the center of the universe. They should not be the center of the United States, especially if they already are!

[@Omer1996E.C]

What!? The US spend per person about 6 times more than Cyprus. And the life expectancy is 3 years higher for Cyprus. Just tells you how inefficient is the us in health care

[@irresponsibleparent3]

Lifespan and Healthcare costs are also based on lifestyle and diet. Americans are known to do poorly in both of those categories.

[@ramochai]

@@irresponsibleparent3 thats also because universal healthcare systems pay a huge role in educating public in prevention. Whereas for profit health care systems don’t find that profitable enough. Sick people means more revenue for them.

[@CBT5777]

@@ramochai Excellent comment! You are so right.

[@etaokha4164]

We are really privileged in the UK. People take our NHS for granted. Thank you NHS ❤️

[@theinternetbutler]

It’s not perfect, but in an emergency you’ll be treated without getting a 100K bill because you used the only doctor in the hospital out of network - even though you were close to death and had no choice. American healthcare is odd.

[@jclcoolrunner]

In the UK you pay it through taxes. It balances out. But in the US we can opt out if it if we are healthy enough to not need health insurance.

[@ling636]

Defund the NHS

[@Omer1996E.C]

@@jclcoolrunner yes, through taxes and the us pay it more than the uk by double per capita. The nhs is just way better

[@aztekempire]

@@jclcoolrunner I really envy UK health care system

[@thedude1666]

Our health care system is like going to a Las Vegas casino You are given a price for a room, but when you arrive for your check in, the price has gone up because of all the fees. Resort fees, credit card transaction fee, etc.

[@gl3936]

It’s so embarrassing that we have to pay so much. You’re screwed uninsured as being insured

[@angelachanelhuang1651]

health insurance costs a lot when you have more medical problems

[@Blaze6432]

@Angela EZRA MILLER burberry sharapova Kournikova Says morons who don't know how most countries work.

[@albedougnut]

@@angelachanelhuang1651 Which is why countries which universal healthcare are so fantastic. People are not screwed over and damned to poverty for life over medical circumstances out of their control.

[@josem588]

@@albedougnut with this I think usa is no longer a first world country it is a failed state (for the drug and financial crisis in usa and government spending money in pointless wars)

[@Sparklfoot]

Health is a real wealth.

[@jakewalker138]

You sound so nice

[@helenagreenwood2305]

So glad I'm UK 🇬🇧 I will NEVER have to even think about the cost of a visit to the doctor calling an ambulance having an operation or affording medication - the inflated costs of medical care and medication is criminal (or it should be) in USA

[@darrenclark6552]

universal healthcare is the way forward, the USA is ok to visit but the healthcare system here is diabolically expensive wether you have insurance or not.

[@josem588]

@@darrenclark6552 for that reason and that usa has shootings every day is a third world country

[@richm368]

There is no reason for this but greed. $550 for a

[@pctechandgaming6585]

I’ll save you some time. It’s because American healthcare is for profit. Get profiteering out of healthcare. The end.

[@DonMarzzoni]

Republicans spoon fed the American people lies and think they love their insurance. We had a chance and people freaked out. Bernie Sanders showed us the light but we turned our backs.

[@stuartperry8141]

When I moved to Tampa in 2017 I didn''t have health insurance, so I went to a clinic that was prorated on income within a year and half I had to paid the total costs of my fees. I went to the clinic to regulate my blood pressure and preventive medicine. After a few years I got Obamacare when they took the mandate away during Trumps presidency. I had a small premium I actually got sick two months after gettng a physical last year in January that I had to be hospitalized. That weekly hospital stay which I had to demand to be let out with out being "rehabited"cost over seventy thousand dollars which after insurance portion I am still making a monthly payment with a year and half more payments due. The sad part is they wanted to give me a pacemaker which I refused because they they could not satisfactory explain the need which would of been thousands of more dollars added on. When I got out of the hospital and went to cardilogist I had a EKG as a followup, it was never explained to me my need for the pacemaker. In the almost a year since I got out of the hospital in April 2020, I walk a hour a day, most days every week as well as commuter to work on my bike three days a week. I monitor my heart with Kardia Ekg at home where I have had normal rhythm which I took the readings to my doctor for this year's physical. If I could do my own blood work I would not go to the doctor at all since I do not think they have my best interests.

[@jmccormick1490]

They tried to put a pacemaker in me 3 years ago, I said "I'm good". I have an autoimmune condition that can effect the heart. My EKGs came back normal so it didn't make sense to me. They always try to send me in for excessive testing and put me on meds that I have no purpose taking. Long story short- I'm very selective of Dr's I choose to see now.

[@johnchristmas7522]

They are, on purpose, driving you to bankruptcy. Ever thought of living in a "CIVILISED" country?

[@annunakian8054]

The problem is that our economy depends on keeping ppl unhealthy. How many millions of jobs would be eliminated if unhealthy foods were banned & ppl needed less health care?

[@runningfromabear8354]

What about all of the opportunities the American economy misses out on because money is going toward treating preventable health conditions?

[@noelaguirre7104]

@Incomeking It's no a maybe. It's a fact: Americans play Russian roulette with their health and the medical system is monetizing on that fact.

[@Ek0]

@@runningfromabear8354 That would be spent on other things than healthcare. -.-

[@scz798]

@Incomeking We are unhealthy. Our food is full of chemicals even when we buy food at the grocery store, everything is full of chemicals. Organic and less processed food is expensive for a middle class family. I spend do much on a few organic items to try to feed my baby a better diet.

[@tira2145]

Your right. We should deny healthcare to every overweight, every one who consumes beer, illegal drugs. If you are in a wreck that you caused, no healthcare.

[@shresthjain1625]

In india insulin costs 1$ in usa 200$ In india heart surgery costs 1500$ In usa 150000$ And our surgeons are one of the best trained telling you because then you will satisfy your ego by saying they aren't that skilled they are better skilled In india healthcare is free for poor

[@hermeslein6614]

so what do you think living in India is better than America lol no wonder many indians are leaving their dystopian country pretending to be superpower to other better countries no wonder many indians says their country is living hell stop feeling better your homeless in your country have nofood and support and malnourish af and your movies sucked

[@chriswilliams2061]

Everything is getting more expensive. The inflation is getting the best of us and the catchphrase CASH IS THRASH is becoming more apparent. Real questions are, What is the way forward? Besides gold and probably crypto, is there any solid hedge against inflation and finance related BS?

[@trishawallor]

Simple solution: Live below your means, Invest a good percentage of your money in something as lucrative as foreign exchange but of course be well informed about where you want to put your money. Made my first million this way earlier this year with about 450k after I dissolved my 401k and added little cash (through the help of a pro though) The system can rot for all I care.

[@thesportsguruu]

@@trishawallor Now you have my attention sir How did you do this? Who's the knight in shinning armour? I am slowly giving up on all of these

[@trishawallor]

@@thesportsguruu Sir? It's funny cos I'm a lady or doesn't it suit the "narrative"? It takes quite some level of patience and "Nancy Lynn Lewis" is the "knight", she was in the news alot in 2018. You can check her out online for more.

[@thesportsguruu]

@@trishawallor Low Blow right there ma'am. You didn't have to pull the gender card. Wasnt necessary. Thanks still. Ill check her out

[@marlenaaj]

@@trishawallor Wow I know this little lady. Once attended a seminar she was also in attendance here in Texas,, Great speaker. I still believe there's hope.

[@DrewRueDoo]

I'm waiting for some sort of revolution in health care. This is ridiculous. Our health care system is something that both parties can agree on how terrible it is.

[@-Bloomingtales]

When you build a system on greed and materials and not humanity and well-being you’re already failing… it’s not ✨sustainable✨

[@User-72430]

Deep!

[@alyssajones4368]

So true.

[@jenniferhartley7562]

If we want to drive down costs of healthcare, one of the first things to address is market consolidation of physicians, outpatient centers, and even other hospitals by large not-for-profit hospitals. Do you think improving healthcare is a consideration driving these consolidations...uh NO, it is about controlling the referral streams. That is only one factor of our sick healthcare system. There are others I could site, but it is no use. As long as politicians are driving decisions and as long as there are well funded lobbies, healthcare will remain about greed and invested interests.

[@gulsher78]

Health care is free in a 3rd world country like Pakistan. Thank you Prime Minister Imran Khan.

[@hermeslein6614]

Japan and Switzerland has no free healthcare either So tham means akistan is more suerior america laughable

[@ilhamrj2599]

@@hermeslein6614 Japan might not have free universal ones. BUT, the people awareness to join National Health Insurance scheme is quite high.. So most of the time, it is still free. You do not need to force the scheme, when the awareness is high inherently. The Japanese is probably the most obedient citizen in the developed world. During Covid, there is no enforced lockdown... There is only state of emergency announcement and people voluntarily follows government recommendation. yes there are one or two who are not insured in Japan... But, they are in tiny minority. You can compare the same statistics with the US, it is day and night comparison.

[@hermeslein6614]

@@ilhamrj2599 but still not free USA is a huge country there are different procedures and treatment and cost depends of which area you live in especailly in urban

[@hxydyfufugufuf2769]

@@hermeslein6614 ya allah 😁

[@Racko.]

@@ilhamrj2599 Theres no such thing as free healthcare, it's only free at point of service, nation welfare and leader organizations gather your tax money to pay for those cost, you're still paying, just not when you're around

[@mikezerker6925]

It’s too damn expensive!! And I’m in the healthcare field so I know! We have so many patients that would be doing great with some of their chronic diseases if the medications weren’t so expensive! I’m talking copays of $4-600 for one month supplies of just 1 med! And that’s just the tip of the iceberg… the cost of health insurance is high, doctor visit, ER visits etc. Enough to bankrupt the average family!

[@rigil5477]

Based on CNBC's chart at 01:54, Americans spend FIVE TIMES as much on healthcare as SINGAPORE but our life expectancy is FOUR YEARS lower.

[@purpurina5663]

That structure also gatekeeps looking for second opinions or alternative treatment. In all, the US system is full of wrong incentives, for all the actors involved. I live in a developing country with rather good medical care. A procedure in a top facility here is excellent quality and 1/5 of the cost of a US average facility. My friends who’ve gone to live in the US come here for their dental and medical treatments, see the family, take a little vacation, and all of that combined will cost less than getting treatment in the US.

[@doctork1708]

What country?

[@mannarmylie4195]

Yes, what country?

[@vincentnnyc]

if you are not listing the country that you are in....why are you bragging about it?

[@amevaio92]

@@doctork1708 malaysia

[@gui9529]

Brazil

[@dominicanno809]

Highly processed food, doctors who just tel you to take pills, drug addiction, medical malpractice, the list goes on and on. OFC it’s a dam business 💯🤦🏽

[@agathajadwiszczok3503]

The reverse is the case. They tell you NOT to take pills, even if you've had a double mastectomy.

[@dawoodwaris]

“The true measure of any society can be found in how it treats its most vulnerable members.” - Mahatma Gandhi

[@manishtripathi5581]

People of the country must be made aware of right eating habbit when they are in school. Junk foods, sodas, high calorie, high sodium should be avoided at all cost . Fruits,nuts,grain and other non processed foods are the key to good health.

[@jaxthewolf4572]

And even healthy foods are getting too expensive

[@vpnconsult]

I bought an annual income on Health care stock, to hedge against the health care inflation.

[@happyisblue]

Main reason is greed

[@jordicarvajal2834]

Exactly

[@ViceCoin]

The average career in the US lasts 5 years, so employer-based health insurance is temporary.

[@thejquinn]

Or non existent in the gig economy

[@brooks5895]

I don't ever want to here how the USA has the best healthcare in the world when we have highest amount of COVID deaths, lower life expectancy, and the highest cost of healthcare

[@kayt9576]

FOR THE RICH ONLY, POOR CANT AFFORD HEALTHCARE. HMOS ARE ALL PAPERWORK, TAKES TO LONG, TREETMENT IS DELAYED PEOPLE DIE.

[@albedougnut]

People who call US healthcare the best in the world are either rich, uneducated, and/or they still live with their parents on their parents' insurance.

[@albedougnut]

@@_Zane__ Do you even know what that word means?

[@albedougnut]

@@_Zane__ Zane, you are the one who brought up grooming and children. Why is that the first thing on your mind when I am talking about healthcare? Seems pretty sus, mate. Are you a pedo or something?

[@noursultan4014]

"A patient cured is a customer lost"

[@JakeMcClake2]

That is also a good point.

[@thekeith-donovanexperience]

Say it with me everyone, GREED. Good ol American Greed.

[@donlewis5097]

Agreed

[@ctsealteam6]

So true. What’s sad is many still believe those greedy insurance companies are giving them a “choice”. People are literally willing to pay more for less as opposed to accepting good social healthcare plan in other countries like UK, Canada, Japan, Taiwan. US healthcare is a shame.

[@choco-une]

@@ctsealteam6 US government overall is a shame

[@camouflageartist8897]

Lies about healthcare in the US. The World: We treat you even if you don’t have money. USA: Pay or Die. Not true kzbin.info/www/bejne/eojCpKhqZdmCrZY

[@justinfowler2857]

Simple. Corporations own the Healthcare system. Profit first. People never.

[@adampkalb]

😭 I hate being a person in the US whose life doesn't matter! The United States government should not revolve around the selfish decisions of a few people in a corporation! All of our lives matter, they just want to deny it. There must be something we can do to take the power away from these corporations who own the healthcare system.

[@CatEyedGoddess]

Absolutely. My doctor prescribed ultrasound to check and make sure I didn’t have cancer. From that I received three bills. Bill number one for the actual ultrasound. Bill number two for the use of the ultrasound equipment owned by the hospital. And the third bill was for the doctor to read the film and I was charge for each film that he read. Mind you I still have a 2000 deductible of which I’ve only spent $600. Because my insurance company keeps giving me discounts which may seem good but when you want your insurance company to do what they’re supposed to do and in order for that to happen you have to pay off your deductible first. It means that my deductible will never be paid off by the end of the year, so I will never get any of the full benefits of my health insurance.

[@nala3038]

This problem could be solved quite easily with a national health care program like every other civilized country in the world has. When are people going to wake up to the fact that insurance companies are the MIDDLE MAN, which increases costs. And don't tell me that other countries' government-run health care systems like France or Sweden, for example, aren't as good. In fact, they're better! Yes, their citizens have to pay more in taxes, but no one goes bankrupt, no one has to fill out endless forms, no one skips necessary coverage, no one is denied coverage, and no one stays at a job they hate just for their medical insurance. Wise up and break free from corporate brainwashing!

[@kitsiewr]

There is no limit to what providers, insurers, and big pharma can charge. They won't tell you how much anything will cost until they bankrupt you. They do it BECAUSE THEY CAN.

[@PraveenSrJ01]

I’m so glad I have a good health insurance and so does my entire family. I feel blessed and privileged that health care costs are not an issue for me. I need to try to help those who are less fortunate and have trouble paying their health care costs.

[@Lisa-nu7ne]

😊

[@CBT5777]

I'm glad you are happy! This world is a cruel place

[@joesiah841]

As a medical student required to take courses in medical ethics, I can't help but think of how the core ethical principles of medicine relate to the ballooning cost of healthcare. These core principles are beneficence, nonmaleficence, autonomy, and justice. The principle of beneficence requires healthcare providers to act in the best interest of their patients. As mentioned in the video, the hope is that medical professionals will do the right thing and give the appropriate treatment regardless of one's ability to pay. Unfortunately, this isn't a sustainable business practice and could cause financial strain on the hospitals and clinics that have to bear the cost. The principle of nonmaleficence requires healthcare providers to avoid harm to their patients. This principle is violated when a patient is financially ruined due to crushing medical debt or cannot pay for necessary expenses such as food, housing, and utility to pay for treatments. The principle of autonomy requires healthcare providers to respect their patients' right to make decisions about their healthcare that align best with the patient's goals and values. This is where informed consent comes in, as patients can only make a decision that matches their goals and values if they are aware of the consequences of their choices. The no surprises act aims to help resolve the lack of price transparency. It is a step in the right direction in improving patient autonomy, as knowing the financial cost of treatment allows them to make more informed decisions about their care. The principle of justice requires that healthcare be distributed equitably. This means that everyone can access the same level of care regardless of where they live, socioeconomic status, religion, race, gender, sexual orientation, disability, etc. The lack of universal coverage and the fee-for-service model can result in unequal cost distribution across society, ultimately leading to an unjust system where access to quality care is unattainable. I appreciate how this video recognized the importance of preventative care in reducing the cost of healthcare. Unfortunately, right now, preventive care is less likely to be accessible to lower-income individuals, which can lead to further healthcare costs down the road. I personally hope to see a single-payer healthcare system implemented in the united states that will expand healthcare coverage for everyone.

[@KevinBauman]

The idea that patients should "shop around" is shifting the burden to the patient. It doesn't work well. As they mention in the video, it's hard to know what everything will cost beforehand. Furthermore, if it's an emergency, nobody shops around. Shopping around may work for something like a joint replacement, but it doesn't work for cancer.

[@Lisa-nu7ne]

Yes, more and more countries. Medical care has become a business, which is sad.

[@angelachanelhuang1651]

patients should really ask for assistance

[@SandfordSmythe]

My car mechanic tells me he had to look at it first

[@Jerbt]

Most healthcare is not an emergency, if patients could have a choice with different companies and markets than that would help competition and bring prices down.

[@americanexpat8792]

I moved to Ireland almost solely to avoid ungodly health care costs. The difference is amazing! Fundamentally, it's about values. Ireland is a Catholic country and there is a cultural belief here based on religion and other reasons that health care is a 'human right'. Therefore, the idea of an American health care system would never see the light of day here, since it would violate our innate beliefs about what's important in life. Nobody would ever bring it up, since they'd be laughed out of the room. There's also some private care here, but those costs are 20% of those in the US. What's amazing is that doctors have plenty of time to treat a patient, since they are not wasting their time filling out insurance forms. My doctor has called me numerous times on my cell to discuss treatment options. To summarize, you have make a decision about whether health care is about treating people or making money. Here in Ireland, we chose the former. The US chose the later. Doctors in Ireland are well-paid, but don't live the country club life they do in the US. Everything talked about in this video is a detail. We have all of those, also. You first have to decide where your values lie.

[@jclcoolrunner]

What are your taxes and income there? I bet you still pay roughly the same, just calculated dufferently

[@M123Xoxo]

@@jclcoolrunner The US pays far more per capita than any other country just in taxpayer funded healthcare costs. That doesn't included anything people pay on their own for their insurance premiums or out of pocket costs! How can you defend this system? It's a complete scam.

[@americanexpat8792]

​@@jclcoolrunner I'm retired, so I don't know the exact numbers, but I can guarantee that it's dramatically higher in the US. I am going back to the US for a short trip. My insurance cost is $650 a month for a catastrophic policy, where my deductible is $8,700. This policy covers essentially nothing but getting into a car accident. My supplemental private insurance here is $1800 per year with a $150 Euro charge for major uses - no deductible. This policy is a normal policy. In fact, I had a colonoscopy done last under the policy. GPs here make about $150K Euro per year, while specialists make about $250K per year. Health care people in Ireland are compensated much less than in the US. Those are both dramatically lower than in the US. Its' fundamentally about what's the purpose of your system.

[@americanexpat8792]

@@M123Xoxo Once you get exposed to the European system, you know you've been taken by the American system. Plus, you don't look or go back. It just seems so backward or 'low class' whenever I return.

[@jclcoolrunner]

@@americanexpat8792 that is terrible insurance. Perhaps shop around more. Many different policies. Some areas could do better with allowing more policies and health systems. Better than having 1 government dictating what care and timing people can get operations. Private businesses are much more efficient than government. At least in the U.S.

[@fithealthy7106]

Employer-based insurance, private insurance purchased through healthcare.gov, Medicaid, and Medicare each have their own set of regulations, funding sources, enrollment dates, and out-of-pocket expenditures, making the healthcare system in the United States an incredibly complicated and convoluted structure.

[@omaraljuboori3431]

We need single-payer Medicare for all. We spend almost double the amount on healthcare per capita of any developed country, yet we have 92 million people who are either uninsured/under-insured. We rank last on healthcare outcome of any developed country. I don’t understand why Americans aren’t demonstrating, rioting, or demanding change from their representatives. Policy choice has led the terrible greed of the pharmaceutical and the health insurance industries to go on unchecked.

[@purpurina5663]

Lobbying and campaign financing. It’s just baffling that a country that prides itself on having been built on the ideas of enlightenment still upholds those two institutions. It’s simply not rational.

[@waysofzen]

Cuz people in this country vote against their own interests. As they say, never underestimate the stupidity of the American public.

[@jordicarvajal2834]

@@purpurina5663 Also the wealthy and the largest businesses can afford lawyers and accountants to defend there interests and cheat the system.

[@rtquest22]

@Omar you want single payer Medicare for all then you better give up your freedoms, rights and choices and leave everything to the govt to decide for you. Don't ever complain, whine or b**** ever. What's it gonna be, freedom to welfare?

[@omaraljuboori3431]

@@rtquest22 What freedom? Under the current privatized for-profit healthcare system, your choices are either medical bankruptcy or death. Is this freedom? I will gladly choose single-payer healthcare system like every other developed country in the world.

[@lmc3307]

I am so privileged to have been born in the UK where we have the NHS and not the USA’s shambolic system.

[@pionieresvizzero2224]

your health system is communism (I'm ironic)😂😂😂😂

[@jamessmith4287]

@@pionieresvizzero2224you’re correct unintentionally

[@jfausset]

We don’t need intermediate parties btw drs and patients. Too many hands in the pie. Too many people think they need to go to dr. Not enough people dieting and exercising. Abdication of personal responsibility. We need the price transparency noncompliance fees to be severe enough providers will choose to comply. That will allow for patients to scan (apps, search engines, etc) for best cost-value proposition as a cash payer. Corporations scream private sector solutions and less regulation while they hide their dealings from public scrutiny. Force providers to be transparent and the consumer will find their true best options. Remote care makes a lot of sense for many things. People will cut costs if they know they have options.

[@williamexchange2219]

Thank you so much for letting me express my feelings about your video. You record every video post so well. Keep the hard work going and good luck.

[@Otonosekai]

As a European and a German I am horrified that the US doesn't have a National HealthCare System like the European States. In Europe anybody has a HealthCare Insurance which can be paid. I am unemployed since 20 years because of chronic illness, but I am part of the German National Healthcare System. The monthly costs are fully paid by the "Jobcenter" (federal employment exchange) - and SINCE 20 YEARS they pay my unemployed benefit called "Arbeitslosengeld" . Everybody in Germany and in other European states are part of the National HealthCare System because it is mandatory for everybody to be have HealthCare Insurance. When Americans say:"Oh, that's socialism!" - I have to laugh - and when American say: "Why should I paid for other people!" - I have to weep, because this system is really good, it's payable for everyone and also the social weak people are covered. In Germany we call this "Solidaritätsgedanke" (mentality of solidarity for all with all)...Dear Americans, you always say: "We are a great nation!" - Why don't you have such a good system of NHC in the US??? - Oh, I forgot: 1.This is socialism. 2. That is communism. 3. It's unamerican. 4. It hurts the fundamental thought of "freedom"...REALLY??? - Loving greetings from Europe, Germany ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤

[@theintrovertedaspie9095]

Germans are Europeans. Are you referring to ethnic Germans? I'm American and German is part of my family heritage along with a bunch of other stuff (European). And I'm frightened over the healthcare system here. My family left Europe over the 1700-1800s. In a lot of ways I hate it because I love Europe and how much its influenced our modern culture. But in my ancestors defense Europe was probably in a rough patch back then. Anyway I wish America had the same healthcare system your people do. Housing isn't much different here as its treated as an asset, where as in Finland its viewed as a human right and that country virtually solved homelessness. But not America.

[@Otonosekai]

@@theintrovertedaspie9095 I was born in Germany, I am German by birth, my parents were also German. My father's roots are German-Polish and my mother`s roots are westfalian-hesse (German too)...

[@theintrovertedaspie9095]

@@Otonosekai I see. My dads side of the family has German, Dutch, French, and a bit of Norwegian, and some Scottish, English, Welsh, and Irish, and Basque. My mom's side basically has the same thing except French. But she also has Spanish, Portuguese, and a tiny bit of Swedish and Danish as well.

[@Otonosekai]

@@theintrovertedaspie9095 Oh my god, such a genetic diversity. If you were a dog, in Germany you would be called "Eine wilde Promenadenmischung"...😀😀...You can think of the US what you want, but the genetic diversity of US-Americans is fascinating...

[@theintrovertedaspie9095]

@@Otonosekai Yah.

[@ro5omax]

Short answer: it's an industry. As such, it's main goal is to grow and to produce profit.

[@FinancialShinanigan]

When expensive preventative care leads to emergencies that bankrupt you

[@jutau]

It's all about Profit.

[@smallfgb]

Lumping clinic, hospitals and doctors together is misleading. Hospitals have a great lobby (maybe even contributing to this content) and have had their share grow while clinic/doctors have shrunk. Also, we have a huge outlay to insurance administration other countries do not have. Insurance over single payer or govt provided care takes 10-20% profit off the top plus actual costs of running insurance

[@seanthe100]

Physicians also have a large lobby in Congress as well. We don't need a specialized physician for literally every single thing. Physicians assistants and nurse could save us alot of money.

[@mo9650]

The land of the free with the highest costs to health care. This is a basic human right. Make it make sense

[@arielespejo4956]

Coming from other country, is shocking how expensive and inefficient American health care system is. Is the worst system in the world. For me, is cheaper back to my country the get care (with a bettee performance) than in US. Is totally ridiculous. And most of the physicians here (at least in South Florida) are behind international avarage. Is incredible most Americans are convinced that you guys have great health care, which is not the truth. Well, is the American indoctrination by far.

[@Frodaddy09]

Well maybe the politicians think we do but us regular folk have always known our system sucks.

[@arielespejo4956]

@@Frodaddy09 well, I saw a lot of people here convinced said US has the best health care in the world. More of them are conservatives.

[@Frodaddy09]

Lol yea they only know what they want to know.

[@kaseyc5078]

It’s also where the doctors and nurses are paid the most, so I guess you want to reduce that?

[@camouflageartist8897]

Lies about healthcare in the US. The World: We treat you even if you don’t have money. USA: Pay or Die. Not true kzbin.info/www/bejne/eojCpKhqZdmCrZY

[@yanglee1404]

Medicare for all is essential. When America finally is Medicare for all, the health care systems of other advanced nations have already been upgraded to a much better level. Pitiful Americans!

[@aquaz9605]

Starting this year, my dentist no longer cooperate with any insurance companies, they said that was because the insurance company's caps are not increased enough to offset their cost increased. That means the charges will be increased and my share of payment will increase since the part paid by insurance company is not changed much.

[@airgunningyup]

were headed torward a bifurcated society , those who can afford coverage , and the uninsured.. The lowest 20 % of society are being supplemented by the top 20% and hence they get free or subsidized coverage ( medicaid or ACA ) .. Anyone in the middle 60% will eventually be uninsured and will wonder how that happened .. Well , as time goes on employer based coverages actually covers less and less.. Eventually , it will be like a discount card, where it doesnt cover anything , it simply reduces the price.. Wait and see.

[@tiamarie1226]

My employer based healthcare is already liked that aside from my free once a yr visit any other visit I just got a discount and a bill in the mail. Needless to say I only go once a yr

[@phillippereira6468]

You really believe that the top 20% pay taxes that cover the lowest? Ever heard of tax deductions and lowering your tax bracket. The rich don't spend a lot of money on accountants to pay taxes. It's the people on the middle that are holding up the system

[@airgunningyup]

@@phillippereira6468 top 20% are households making over 200k.(224,988). I know a bunch of people in this category , they get crushed on taxes.. Youre thinking of businesses , big and small , and yes as a business owner i can deduct the shirt on my back. But this doesnt apply to salried and hourly workers making 100k plus

[@airgunningyup]

@@tiamarie1226 same thing happened at a publicly traded company i worked for.. from 2012 to 2016 the coverage went from amazing to almost useless.

[@pizzadoe7922]

@@phillippereira6468 Even at 200K per year, you have to pay extra medicare taxes. Earning 200K per year is not rich if you live in places like NYC, San Francisco etc.

[@douglasdangelo6755]

The lack of transparency in pricing is criminal. It's the only industry where you can go in for a service and have no idea what you will be charged when it's over. Doctors are also encouraged to bill for everything in order to line their pockets. If you go in for a hurt shoulder and happen to be overweight then the doctor will code for an overweight counseling. They are encouraged to keep you unhealthy

[@thejquinn]

I believe something passed that stops this practice recently

[@texascoqui9789]

$100 for a pain in the side 😂😂😂 more like $400 just to meet with the doctor just for him to run a bunch of tests and tell you everything is fine. Not sure, maybe you were just stressed? 🤔🤔🤔

[@divianschwitzle846]

So glad I don’t live in the US anymore. Canada’s healthcare system is so much better for every day people.

[@hassimyousef9683]

You a communist or sum

[@tira2145]

And all the rich Canadians come over here for healthcare. My clinic does this all the time.

[@Informedaccount]

@@tira2145 Key word. “Rich”. Under any system the rich will have the upper hand.

[@tira2145]

@@Informedaccount that is true. Those that work hard and provide a good service get ahead.

[@Informedaccount]

@@tira2145 Good one there, Tim 😂. I saw your other comments before replying and I didn’t expect anything less.

[@saadhusain1]

How would you like it if every road was a private toll road and every mile you had to pay toll or get approval from your auto insurance company to get approval to drive on the road. That is what we have in healthcare.

[@jansean2497]

Until we demand that Healthcare, Hospitals, Health Insurance and pharmaceuticals return to the non-profit model they started out as, “healthcare” costs for Americans will continue to skyrocket. The money paid to the “profit margin” should be going to doctor, nurse, healthcare worker salaries and hospital/facility infrastructure. Healthcare and pharmaceutical corporations shouldn’t be spending our healthcare dollars paid on advertising. There is something deeply wrong with that. Also having a single payer healthcare insurance system administered by a government contracted professional (nonprofit) Insurance organization would streamline administrative costs and eliminate the need for separate administration of Medicare, Medicaid, and Medical Disability Spending.

[@brianholloway6205]

My favorite part is the overwhelming majority that considers “socialist” healthcare bad. Smh

[@hellokitty8552]

Have you live in other countries with socialist healthcare?

[@brianholloway6205]

@@hellokitty8552 yes. Japan, Netherlands, belgium, and Germany. Though the Japanese and Flemish system was a bit different and very very interesting

[@ling636]

@@brianholloway6205 ah yes the private insurance providers of Germany are “socialist”

[@Built2kill]

It's called being red-pilled. Actually believing something good to be bad.

[@brianholloway6205]

@@ling636 there is a state option as well. In America, the existence of the public option is anathema or do I have to tell you about the Medicaid expansion and southern states?

[@freddytang2128]

As a Canadian this is why I never considered moving to the states

[@Sam19509]

me too. Our healthcare system has challenges mostly because it has become regionalized depending on which province you live in and we also don't have pharmacare. Think about it you get hospitalized then diagnosed with a chronic illness and the meds are free as long as your in the hospital but the minute you leave unless you have good private insurance from work you could be footing six figure plus bills a year on certain meds if you have an auto-immune disease like MS or Cystic Fibrosis. I was hoping PM Trudeau would follow through on implementing a national pharmacare program but the pandemic threw a wrench in those plans and the big drugmakers who also make the Covid vaccines are influence peddling more than hired lobbyists to stop the Feds from launching a national pharmacare programs. Conservative MPs and Premiers are already in bed with big Pharma like they are with oil, dairy farmers and gun manufacturers.

[@MegaMijit]

Elizabeth Warren has the right idea, expanding the affordable health act is not enough.

[@daveb224]

The ACA is a shell game. Solves virtually nothing. But expanding Medicare doesn't solve the high cost of healthcare in this country. That's what needs to change before anything else. It's literally going to bankrupt this country if we don't do something about the cost.

[@redwolfexr]

@@daveb224 Biden is still pretty centrist - he is closer to the right than the left when it comes to regulations affecting any corporate turf. Only the Progressive end of the party is REALLY for UH. The Liberals may say they would be willing, but they aren't going to die on that hill. At the end of the day we have Manchin and Sinema who might as well be Republicans on any REAL reform issues. They balked at even paying for new bridges!

[@Informedaccount]

Warren’s proposal doesn’t go far enough to fix the actual issue. Bernie has the right idea to actually fix the issue at its root by replacing the insurance companies with Medicare for all for all necessary care and just leaving them for cosmetic coverage.

[@rtquest22]

@@redwolfexr doesn't matter whether a politician is a leftist, centrist or rightist. The most important aspect is that The US Constitution is the absolute law of the land and doesn't authorize the fed govt to enact laws not warranted within it's framework. ACA is a healthcare provision which is not under the enumerated powers authorized to govt so it should be dismantled.

[@redwolfexr]

@@rtquest22 Too bad that isn't how the Constitution really works, isn't it? Its a framework, not an absolute. For example there is nothing about income taxes, but you can't buy F35s by excise taxes, can you? Then there is that little phrase "promote the general Welfare" which is LITERALLY in the first sentence you have to 'splain away. In fact the Federal government would be quite small if it was restricted that way. The "Interstate commerce" clause only goes so far.

[@AK-rx6hv]

It's simple, in the US healthcare is a for-profit industry. Don't over complicate it.

[@DonMarzzoni]

Capitalism should never be allowed anywhere near health care. Period

[@mfbj1]

America is not a country, it is a business.

[@wrongchampionship615]

how else are the doctors supposed to pay for their third mansion and yacht? duh, more money

[@Yochemm]

When you can't afford it, don't vote the right side. Be a collective is a better system than All by yourself.

[@kennickel878]

United healthcare, as an example: if they took in $17.7b, but 30% of patients didn’t pay then they were entitled to something like $23b (spitballing). That means they lost a little more than $5b by treating patients who couldn’t afford it. They also paid out $5b in dividends to shareholders who have nothing to do with healthcare. Literally. These companies haven’t done an IPO in ages…their stock price has nothing to do with their day to day operations. The national institutes of health cover the bulk of R&D and infrastructure expenditures and Uncle Sam gives them a no strings withdrawal off the country’s credit card every time they make a bad business decision despite all their subsidies. Do healthcare companies stop treating patients, or stop supporting parasites who can’t even claim to be taking a risk anymore?

[@filipmoric245]

Wow imagine paying this much for healthcare us is really a joke

[@evenmoney]

Part of it is simply demand. When I was a kid, a pharmacist was just another job...not the millionaire-maker it is today. Same with nursing. We didn't have anywhere near the obesity 30 years ago. We currently have a fat, inactive, medicated, indoor, fast-food and junk-food eating society starving for nutrients while gobbling down Big Macs. Also, our attention span is ever diminishing, so accidents of all kinds are on the rise, and you have to be extra careful on the road to account for all the dumb and distracted people. It's so bad that one of the best things you can do for your finances is to make health and safety a top priority. Used to have a morbidly obese barber who would order two large shamrock shakes and drink one all at once in front of the cashier in the drive-through. Of course, he became a diabetic and is in horrible shape medically and takes a dozen pills while not even 50 years old.

[@FinanceHustle]

Health care should be structured for prevention. Reimbursement models really should reward healthcare workers that keep people healthy.

[@GratefulHippieChic]

There is no money in cures. We are not patients, we are customers. No doctor will ever truly practice 'preventative" medicine. it is not profitable. They do not care about our health. They only care about their profits. Capitalism is killing us. literally.

[@AbdullahHashi-kw3qj]

America is a corporation not a country

[@RussInGA]

A lot of this is correct though a couple of bits that seem to be overlooked. The cost includes what the ins company pays. insurance isnt going to solve the cost problem. patent law, torte law, and removing monopolistic practices. Insurance for all is not going to address the cost problem it only shifts and spreads it. Outrageous prices for medical supplies, equipment, and drugs are a huge problem. Go look up the range of prices for stints that all do the same job. You find they vary by 1000s of dollars. Until the legal framework that makes these things possible is addressed (Patents, Torte, FDA overhead) this problem cannot be solved.

[@CesarAnton]

Politics, Greed and Incompetence.

[@hydrohasspoken6227]

I guess it is because the system is for profit. Unless i am mistaken, which i doubt

[@daveb224]

Of course it is.

[@vishalbhadre178]

It's because of dollar printing press. Commodities can be bought from other countries, some software services can be outsourced but healthcare, factory workers, restaurant workers, house builders will charge more due to inflation

[@pooksmagoo6521]

As a person who works In the US medical system. I firmly believe insurance companies are the reason why it’s so expensive. So no only are we paying the dr we have to pay the insurance company too. Insurance companies are a racket.

[@georg2449]

You should check out salaries in other countries. That will give you another main reason. A physician in a German hospital will make ~$120k in a leadership role, look at your colleagues and ask yourself if you’d get an American physician for that price tag.

[@ling636]

Doctors get paid too much. Not enough doctors and nurses due to the AMA (American medical association) having old restrictions. Patients go to the doctor for small stuff (cough/cold/allergies) too much. Patients abuse their insurance when they reach their deductible. Patients don’t care about their health enough to prevent disease. (Overweight/obesity/diabetes/heart disease etc.) It’s a whole mix of issues not just one thing.

[@justinlavine9209]

So a Chinese reporter asked about the projected rising cost of healthcare in the United States and needles to say, the general public also had their own concerns. For example, how can a family or individual living on a fixed income budget for large medical expenses whose cost isn't known until insurance denies them coverage at the checkout? What can be done to remove the impediments that make it difficult for patients and consumers to find less expensive care options? And what about the numerous elective medical trearments known to have the highest profit margins? One Chinese man, after using his thumb and index finger to get a better look at these online statements, had this to say, "What you mean elective brain surgery isn't covered long time by your HMO?" Another Chinese woman who could only stretch her eyes to the size of a quarter said, "Why don't they just pay for their BCI's and other medical expenses on their credit cards." An onlooker who might have been half-Korean but identified as only one-eight Chinese rounded his eyes to the size of the moon before saying, "They should just add those medical bills to their enormously bulging Titanic-sized National Debt!" *This comment not intended as hate speech*

[@Sinraye89]

*laughs in european* seriously though, I don’t understand why you don’t fund healthcare with taxes. Sure you’d pay higher taxes, but the overall healthcare would be cheaper as US would have a lot more leverage in negotiating price of medicine than individual hospitals, not to mention healthcare could be made more accessible. The evidence is clear as mentioned in the video, US spends much more on healthcare yet lags behind western Europe in healthcare quality. I don’t understand why Americans are so afraid of taxes, when instead of taxes you get bills which often is higher than what you’d pay in taxes.

[@phillippereira6468]

Simple mate... They hear Universal health care and immediately hear the words "communism" why... Because they are idiots Evidence to my claim... They voted in Trump

[@zlpatriot11]

@@phillippereira6468 American here. This bs about universal healthcare being "socialism" or "communism" never made sense to me. It's the same old talking point that keeps getting repeated by the Republican cult. I live on limited income and I'd take universal healthcare any day over we have now. Healthcare is a right.

[@Clouds4Cheap]

@@zlpatriot11 it's a right for someone to give you a free service? Do you also work for free?

[@sermexflomex1423]

We have public schools that are funded by taxes. It is available to all. It’s not considered “ Socialism “ but the same model to fund medical for all is considered “ Socialism” . Dumb people believing what politicians tell them.

[@Clouds4Cheap]

@@sermexflomex1423 actually many parents fight for school choice every year because the public school system is below standard compared to private schools. Most if not all parents would choose private over public school for their kids but they can't afford to

[@jutau]

It doesn't help that the Doctor's office and the insurance works out the pricing when the office can still bill you the remainder for their services not covered.

[@JohnDoeTheTroll]

Healthcare costs would drop if AMA and Medical Universities didn't cap how many people they allow to become Doctors. More competition = lower prices.

[@SandfordSmythe]

This doesn't work well for professionals, they will charge the same. They will do more procedures on who they have.

[@JohnDoeTheTroll]

@@SandfordSmythe It absolutely does!

[@mariasand6415]

Abolish private insurance will lower health care costs.

[@DavidM2002]

In Canada, we have a generally socialized medical system and it works quite well; certainly better than in the U.S. as is shown on the chart in the video. However, I would really like to see a nominal fee be paid at each doctor or hospital visit to reduce the more needless visits. For the poor, these fees can be refunded through the income tax system. We could all be far more efficient by using our non-doctor medical professionals for things like prescription refills and minor medical issues. And Covid finally pushed more medical providers to engage in tele-medicine which should have happened years ago.

[@BioD86]

A nominal visit fee was tried in Germany and failed because it ultimately increased health care spending. Instead of going to their GP for check ups, people went straight to the emergency room or specialists because they did not want to pay the fee (twice). Best solutions to bring down costs are preventative care, more nurse practitioners, tele-medicine, point of care / at home tests and data-driven diagnostic support.

[@rodU65]

Same In my third world contry, even poor places like here, we have better health care in general than USA. Yeah, you can get the last technology treatment in USA (if you can pay it), but in my contry all is in place so you dont need to reach that level of care. Preventing is the key. Try to Maintain most of the population healthy and the cost will be less.

[@M123Xoxo]

How can you blame patients for going to their doctor for a prescription refill? Most doctors make you go in for a visit if it's been so many months since they've seen you. I'd much prefer they just authorize a refill but no, I have to make an appointment, take time off work, drive there, all for a five minutes of face time with the doctor.

[@DavidM2002]

@@M123Xoxo That's exactly the scenario that needs to change. A nurse or perhaps even a pharmacist should be able to authorize the refill. In my case, I get a blood test, the results are the same, but I have to talk to my doctor. What a waste of resources.

[@christopherripley5081]

Ya but you don’t have insurance companies. They really want their hand in the pot. This video was meant to point the finger at healthcare workers like use collecting a salary is a problem. Frat guys selling insurance are making more than doctors. This video is trash

[@Jozamendo]

More than 60% of money paid for insurance in usa goes to corporations profits. Not towards people health costs. That's why is expensier in usa... The politicians won't regulate cause they benefit through kickbacks 😒

[@PuffOfSmoke]

I heard the doctors have to get the approval of the insurance company on what test they can do to the insured patient. They can deny it if they deemed it unnecessary. In effect, our lives are at the hands of not the doctor but the insurance company. That's how powerful they've become.

[@maryjopoole7881]

That’s correct

[@adampkalb]

That is awful! The insurance company and the shareholders should not have more power than the doctors! I am an American who is sick of greedy dirtbags who work for nothing but absolute power! Stop removing our rights!

[@rigil5477]

According to a 2014 article from VOX, 'Major Sources Of Heath Spending' for 2012 in billions: Out-of-pocket (382), Private health insurance (917), Medicare (572), Medicaid (421), and Other health insurance programs including CHIP and Veteran's Affairs (183).

[@jamesg2254]

This video really glossed over the different health choices that Europeans and Americans make. We pay more and we have less life expectancy. But aren’t we missing why? Americans are way more overweight and obese than Europeans and other nations. American media is always uncomfortable calling out obesity as “fat shaming” which is nonsensical. Being overweight has a multitude of health problems, there should be no body positivity about being 30% body fat. Do you know any 80 year olds that are obese? I’d wager very few. We need to stop being silent on this issue. It should not be controversial to say that being overweight has negative health issues.

[@waysofzen]

Canada also has a universal Healthcare system and they also pay less per person with a longer life expectancy rate.

[@hermeslein6614]

and they simp so much on mentality of body positivity and toxic positivity examlple singer Lizzo

[@ziaulislam87]

Biggest reason is ligitation...courts will always side with patient sue everyone for anything even if its ridiculous ..

[@andrespinzon6607]

Because it takes 8 years to be a doctor while in Germany 🇩🇪 6 years. Well done American universities for that

[@xavierd3298]

The age could be way lower if we started to teach them at high school level

[@SandfordSmythe]

I think the pre-med 4 years thing helps Bio-sci Departments.

[@jordicarvajal2834]

8 years to be a doctor in the US and leave with over $100,000 of student debt

[@daveb224]

Don't forget that about 10 years ago, during what was already a shortage of nurses in this country, they made becoming an RN a 4 year program instead of 3, and LPN 3 year instead of 2. It's just mind-numbing.

[@ling636]

More like the AMA (American medical association)

[@Lucysil1970]

I was just billed $2,590 for a mile ride to the hospital for a low emergency call. This is so ridiculous

[@smallfgb]

We need to make cash pay the cheapest way to pay in the US if we claim free market. Currently cash pay is way more expensive than any insurer actually pays. One bill could fix this - mandate medicaid rate for cash payers and we could be more free market.

[@ignaciorlimon1]

In order to have an idea of what consumers spend, CPT codes under plans need to be made searchable via an online database and have dollar amounts tied to them. These amounts need to be updated annually. CPT codes should also have the hospital ICD-10 codes listed under them to make it easier to determine what would or would not be covered. Comprehensive drug lists with dollar amounts also need to be searchable via an online database. A consumer should be able to talk to their provider (or a provider’s staff) or have literature that narrows down the ICD-10 codes for consumers. The cost of individual supplies for procedures and office visits should be easy to lookup on a hospital’s website along w/ insurance companies posting how much or what they would cover from these lists. Insurance companies (and their reps) are also miraculously allowed to practice medicine w/o a license or degree or any kind of medical school under their belt. This is illegal if an everyday person tries this and they should be fined or prevented from operating nationally (subsidiaries included). If politicians are determined to keep our current system in place, regulations need to be put in place with HEAVY federal fines (25k+) for insurance companies and hospital systems that fail to comply or cause unnecessary duress in patients or their families. We ALREADY do this for HIPAA violations. Unfortunately a good chunk of our politicians are able to see what’s in their stock portfolios (drug companies, insurance companies, medical supplies companies, privatized healthcare companies) and it benefits them financially to keep things precisely as they are. Deregulated.