Why Ultimaker Cura 5.0 is so AWESOME!!!

[@bardotripping]

Thanks! Just a newbie's gratitude. I'm learning all I can Finally got my S1 pro tuned in better now :)

[@3DMusketeers]

I am glad we could help! A new slicer video coming out later today, stay tuned! Thanks for your support.

[@bluestacks4043]

Getting insanely good results and super smooth as butter prints with Cura 5 and ArcWelder. Cura 5 is truly a real game changer.

[@3DMusketeers]

Nice! I have yet to try arc welder. I need to!

[@madcatusa]

That was a great stream with Jaime!

[@3DMusketeers]

It really was!

[@nallath]

It was also great to be there :)

[@gibbnal]

Definitely getting improved performance out of this beta. I printed most of the parts for a Voron 2.4 with an older version of Cura. Reprinting some of the parts with 5.0 and the same profiles from the old software. Easy and faster on every part.

[@3DMusketeers]

Yep, Arachne is much smarter it seems! The pathing is significantly optomized!

[@leika67]

After finally getting Starlink I was able set up my old desktop to use at home and downloaded this new version. I knew something had been updated when a 4.5 hr print only took 3.25 with the same basic settings. I actually have had Lightning in my 4.13 version on my laptop but never really played around with it but after seeing it explained out I will defiantly be trying it. Why the hate on tree supports?!!?? They are amazing for organic shapes! I love to print animal skulls and only use tree for them. Huge game changer in the clean up process.

[@3DMusketeers]

Not really hate, just never had the time or need to use them. Snug supports in PS have done me fine, but it is in the docket to make sure we cover tree supports soon!

[@corid143]

5.0 made my handmade hotend/mount print much better than any setting I could muster up in Prusa or super slicer. Super slicers bridging is always crazy no matter what’s changed, and you have to always do some modification object for that area. Was still better than cura 4.X or lower, but 5.0 has changed the game it seems

[@3DMusketeers]

sweet, IU will make sure that whatever part we use for a comparison will be something that has overhangs too!

[@free_spirit1]

My main gripe with it (and Prusaslicer as well) is that multi-extruder settings are still really limited. You still can't choose which extruder starts a layer first. So if you have two materials it will always print , doing a 1,2 - 2,1 - 1,2 - 2,1. Can't configure it to be 1,2 - 1,2 - 1,2 - 1,2..., which often makes a big difference in quality. There is also no way to set which object gets printed first, you have to hack together something with the Z seam alignment. If I'm missing something please let me know!

[@3DMusketeers]

I dont deal much with multi extruder printing so I am not really able to help on this one :/ We only have a single printer that is more than one extruder and it is hot garbage... Would like MMU painting in PS help with this?

[@free_spirit1]

@@3DMusketeers Sadly no, not really. Right now I have some work-arounds using macros in Prusaslicer's custom gcode tabs that allow to let me do what I want to. But I really think that these slicers would be tremendously improved by having a 'print this object's perimeters first' checkbox, or 'complete T0 layer first'. Multimaterial and multiprocessing is where a lot of innovation is gonna come from in the next few years I think. I may have to go to Simplify3D at some point for what I want to do, sadly. Srs though, the macros in prusaslicer offer so much functionality! Underrated feature!

[@free_spirit1]

@@3DMusketeers Out of curiosity, which multimaterial printer did you guys have?

[@3DMusketeers]

I would give PS some time. With the XL looming, which is a tool changer, there MUST be a way. I have some toolchanger friends, I will see how they handle it. Can you email me maybe and I can pass it along to them?

[@3DMusketeers]

I have a Weedo X40, but have never been able to get it to work.

[@toddcoello6461]

I've tried cura 5.0 beta and used the stock profile for a ender 3 and I get horrible gaps in my prints. I sliced same model in cura 4.13 and comes out great but takes a lot longer. I'm not even sure where to start. I downloaded the full 5.0.0 today. So I'll try that.

[@toddcoello6461]

Actually your vase example is the exact thing I'm having issues with. But mind you this is with 3 perimeters. It also seems to be right before a corner. So idk if you have any suggestions

[@3DMusketeers]

That would be related to retraction. Hilariously the test print I did on the mk3s with identical settings to PS had the same issues you are talking about. I figured it was a beta thing and would get fixed on full release. I guess we will see.

[@michaking3734]

have also problems with 5.0 on a ender 3 some missing/bad printed outer walls on 1-2 layers and the z seam is fuzzy

[@3DMusketeers]

@@michaking3734 the profiles likely need more fixes

[@omittedprod]

Do you think slic3r holds back prusa and super slicers? This cura update definitely changes the way the prints are made. Great video and thanks for the Mother’s Day reminder!

[@3DMusketeers]

I do not, they are full forks at this point and slic3r is not even being updated anymore. Their systems work just fine IMO.

[@MattKlimmer]

Yes I hate prusa slicer

[@3DMusketeers]

What about it do you hate? What is your slicer of choice?

[@LastNameTom]

I keep having issues when trying to install saying the network isn't found. Bummed out because I really want to try this.

[@3DMusketeers]

See if there is a bug report for this in Github, if not, submit one :)

[@leeo.alexander2324]

I am looking at using the lightweight PLA or equivalent for a project with a friend that is into flying RC planes. I can't find anything on this when selecting my filament. Does v5 have anything for this or are they planning on it? I am not sure if one of the current selections will work for this.

[@3DMusketeers]

I actually have no clue unfortunately.. Are you using something like Varioshore?

[@leeo.alexander2324]

I have never heard of Varioshore until now. I Googled it and it seems to be similar in technology to the eSun LW-PLA. All I know is it foams at higher temperatures as the Varioshore does. And from what I have gotten from the videos that the LW-PLA has been around for a while too. I have no experience with either, so I would have a learning curve to get over if I tried either one. So now I have two options if I start my project of building an RC plane. Thanks for replying and adding to my CoC(center-of-confusion).

[@3DMusketeers]

Sorry for the potential extra bit of confusion.. I think there is good documentation out there for extrusion multiplier based on temp for both materials which should lead you in the right direction!

[@PterPmntaM]

Great video. I have a question, is safe use this beta 5.0, or, better wait for the release software complete?

[@3DMusketeers]

Seems safe to me! Even though it is a beta it is reasonably well defined. Ultimaker would not release a product that would cause damage to printers. Verify the profiles look good and you should be off to the races

[@PterPmntaM]

@@3DMusketeers thanks, what damage could cause??

[@3DMusketeers]

Technically malicious g code could cause catastrophic results to a printer, especially one with wifi as it could open a hole in a network for someone nefarious to come in.. But realistically, not much. Maybe disable some endstops or something like that

[@3D_Printing]

Have the got the Plugin's working yet?

[@3DMusketeers]

The makers of the plugins have to update them. It is not up to Ultimaker or Cura to update them. Some are updated. Others are not.

[@crispychicken2743]

5.0 will not print right with windows 11 . Windows 10 it works fine . Do you know why

[@3DMusketeers]

No clue either. Have you submitted a bug report?

[@MP-mu1kw]

Cura 5 won't run on Win10 due to OpenGL 2.0 error " Could not probe OpenGL. This program requires OpenGL 2.0 or higher. Please check your video card drivers" But Cura 4.x runs fine. This is a Cura 5.0 specific error. Has anyone come across the same issue and resolved it?

[@3DMusketeers]

Never had that issue, what are the specs on your PC?

[@king_T0ny]

I see you know a lot about Cura and i wanted to ask a question. Is voxelab aries fdm a printer that works with Cura? Im currently trying to add that printer but don't see it.

[@3DMusketeers]

All printers should work with Cura. You may have to add it in though. Find something, maybe from another manufacturer, that is the same size and hopefully same features and rename it :) Otherwise you are building it from scratch, the old school way lol

[@king_T0ny]

That's the problem I have no idea what to do. There are so many

[@king_T0ny]

Besides whenever I click on one the program kicks me out ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[@JefferySchimes0310]

For lightning infill you wouldn't use the percentage option. It's more focused on creating a support for a to layer so the infill line distance is far more useful. I suggest 2-3mm, even larger number for PLA.

[@3DMusketeers]

will look into it, thanks.

[@caramelzappa]

I don't see myself switching from SuperSlicer unless cura adds automatic calibration generation. I switch filaments a lot and supers built in tools make it really fast and easy to dial in settings for each filament. The interface in cura is also much slower tha super on my machine at least. I'll probably try Cura 5 when it leaves beta, but I'm in no rush.

[@3DMusketeers]

That is the only benefit of Super over the others to me, but then again, most materials of the same variety perform the same. I think there is a lot of value to Arachne as well as lightning but people from Prusa have already stated they will be adding it soon, so keep an eye out for that.

[@Sembazuru]

2 months later... Prusa has added arachne and lightning infill and is available on the 2.5 alpha2 (apparently alpha1 had some issues so alpha2 is the first 2.5 alpha public release). Big kudos to the Ultimaker team for both their hard work developing these, and for making them open source so other slicers (like PrusaSlicer) can also benefit from these features. EDIT: I had incorrectly identified the recent pre-release of PrusaSlicer 2.5 as a beta. That was my poor memory, it is an alpha release. But, I've been using it over the weekend and it feels about as robust as a beta release. I probably haven't stumbled across the bugs yet. ;-)

[@caramelzappa]

@@Sembazuru And still no built in calibration tools or klipper gcode flavor.

[@3DMusketeers]

@@Sembazuru This is why Open Source is awesome!

[@3DMusketeers]

@@caramelzappa You can go to Super Slicer for that though.

[@madcatusa]

More time lapses are always good!

[@3DMusketeers]

Any thoughts on the files we should print? May run 3on the shelf behind me: Cura 4, Cura 5, PS. All the same settings for speed and such. Maybe a 4th with lightning infill for fun.

[@madcatusa]

@@3DMusketeers Grogu of course!

[@3DMusketeers]

We could!

[@christopherfishman-weaver2307]

You encouraged me to test it out and for the models I make, it's quite the difference! Any update on when you're going to talk about IP again?

[@3DMusketeers]

Trying to get an IP attorney scheduled for a podcast soon! We have the next few weeks locked in already.

[@christopherfishman-weaver2307]

@@3DMusketeers Awesome, almost as awesome as shaving an hour off my prints haha.

[@3DMusketeers]

nice!

[@christopherfishman-weaver2307]

@@3DMusketeers have you run into any issues with it so far?

[@3DMusketeers]

not personally, but I am not switching over to 5.0 yet. We will be messing with it still, but I need to validate it for production before we look at just blindly switching :) Having so many machines, making sure the profiles work can take some time.

[@cywulf01]

i think i'm the only person that when i slice i file in the current version of Cura, and then slice the same file with the same settings in the beta 5.0 it actually adds hours, not substract...So confused

[@3DMusketeers]

are you running stock settings? Did you port over your settings to the new 5.0?

[@cywulf01]

@@3DMusketeers Actually after installing i checked and it mimicked my old settings, i didn't have to change them. But for testing purposes i used the standard normal - 0.2MM profile on both versions to slice the same file. I went down the settings to make sure everything matched, and then i sliced it on both versions. The result came back at 11:39 on the old one, and 17:21 on the new.

[@3DMusketeers]

email me.. I would like to see this further and I am betting the Cura devs would too. This is the first case I have seen of this so far.

[@cywulf01]

@@3DMusketeers sure thing

[@3DMusketeers]

awesome. Email is [e-mail]

[@TheStrangeSky]

Great video. I know this is a late message. I've been using cura, prusa slicer and super slicer, I found that on some models each slicer produced different quality with the exact same print setting's, its why I used all three, BUT as of cura 5.0 all three slicer have removed the PRINT TO USB function from their slicer. From what I can gather a lot of people, myself included, found this feature extremely useful since we only have one printer and print when we need to print. The reasoning for this removal from the devs doesn't make any sense from what I can gather their reasoning is because it was buggy and the devs don't use this feature so the users shouldn't either even though it was very useful to a lot of people and a lot less buggy then the devs made it out. what do you think of this feature being removed.

[@3DMusketeers]

It was never a feature IMO. Print over USB is asking for trouble. Be it PC hangups, restarts, windows updates, etc. SD cards work great. Want to print via USB, use pronterface to load the raw code. That is how you do it in PS. While yes, some people use it, it causes more problems than good from a devs perspective. I agree though they all produce different looks!

[@TheStrangeSky]

@@3DMusketeers first even if it wasn't a feature it was a good usable function. second a well maintained pc shouldn't hang or restart, I have my pc set to ask to manually install and restart for windows updates. Third, In the past I have instances where pronterface has had connection issues but the slicer didn't and they worked perfectly fine. Fourth imo removing a function that many people found useful is not good especially if they are still new to 3d printing and or only have one printer and or only print when they need to print. 3d printing NEEDS to have functions that make it more accessible to print.

[@3DMusketeers]

SD cards are the accessibility people need. Untethered printing is the right move. I'll verify it's actually missing and reach out to cura devs for an opinion here.

[@TheStrangeSky]

@@3DMusketeers I'm Sorry if I came across as rude or angry, that was not my intention. I'm Sorry. I think I need to clarify my setup a little. On the other side of my room I have a small table with my regular paper printer, it came with a very small cable, I already had a usb hub and very long usb cable and that's how I have my paper printer set, from printer to usb hub then to my pc. When I bought my ender 5 pro the only place I could put the printer was on that table, I wondered if I could connect the ender to my pc through the usb hub using a small usb cable, it worked, every time I turned on the ender it showed up in one of the com ports and it still does, all three slicers, cura, prusa slicer and super slicer were able to detect it and print to usb, especially with cura 4.2, I was even able to us the monitor tab at the top to monitor the printer. All three slicers no longer give me an option to print to usb or even detect the printer. THANK YOU for responding and trying to reach out to the devs, It means a lot. I really enjoy your printfixfriday series, I've learned a lot from them and I look forward to the next episode. THANK YOU.

[@Nems271]

That is awesome. I print 20 to 60kg per month so have a lot of experience with cura. That new algorithm is a game changer. ¿How does lightning infill compare to just adding gradual infill steps?

[@3DMusketeers]

it does it all on it's own and you do not have to worry. Lightning focuses on a good top layer so if your part can be hollow perimeters it will be great, but if it needs infill for strength or something, lightning is likely not for you.

[@RedSlashAce]

Can't wait to try it out 🙂

[@RedSlashAce]

Need speed where I can. Why I'm currently running 0.6mm CHT.

[@3DMusketeers]

It is awesome!

[@3DMusketeers]

With the CHT you can likely up your speed quite a bit and still retain details.

[@FilmFactry]

I saw you on an IG advert.

[@3DMusketeers]

Advert?! Who's??

[@FilmFactry]

@@3DMusketeers I didn't follow u on IG. But this video was advertised to me.

[@3DMusketeers]

Ah cool. Guess IG is pushing the vid, we aren't doing any ads anywhere

[@madcatusa]

Hey! Today is Star Wars Day! No mention of May The Fourth Be With You?

[@3DMusketeers]

you did not watch all the way through ;)

[@madcatusa]

@@3DMusketeers Yeah, I did... Did not see or hear anything about Star Wars Day... Mother's Day, yes, not SW Day.

[@3DMusketeers]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/o36Zn5mcfteDhdU its in the outro :)

[@briant444]

In actuality Cura's times for prints are way off. You can double the times shown. Prusa now is pretty accurate with print times. Also Cura's supports suck. Would like to see paint on supports.

[@3DMusketeers]

We just ran a test of Arachne, and while I need to clearly tune the retraction, the print time was within 1 minute of estimated, so I will call that plenty accurate.

[@briant444]

@@3DMusketeers I guess it depends on the print, the last one i did was ten minutes longer on a 90 min print. It was my 3-5 hour prints that nearly doubled.

[@3DMusketeers]

This was a 17hour 45min print. Ran for 17 hours 44 minutes. Normally when those issues occur it is because your machine cannot accelerate as fast as you have it in gcode.

[@JefferySchimes0310]

Everybody keeps taking about the variable line width but it just doesn't exist. No where in the settings or configure is anything like that mentioned.

[@JefferySchimes0310]

In the example he used layer for layer, it didn't change the line width. It used a different type of line.

[@3DMusketeers]

it definitely did change it. Some walls were much thicker.

[@3DMusketeers]

Okay, so what is this then: imgur.com/a/82gNmbO it is a setting that you do not see by default. You have to show it if you want the extra control.

[@nallath]

Yes it does. Source; I was one of the people that built it ;)

[@3DMusketeers]

Source seems fishy to me ;)

[@Acestrex]

It’s not compatible with windows 7 or 8 machines so no more cura for me!! I have been using it for years and now can’t, plus they are being extremely rude to people about it. So screwed them!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@3DMusketeers]

Just update to 10? Supporting all those OS's get tough..

[@dl5244]

Boo. Cura5 dropped Windows7 support Now I guess it's time for a PC upgrade

[@3DMusketeers]

It did? That seems odd.. you can just do the upgrade to 10 easily though too.