Why Used BMWs Are So CHEAP

[@ian.valdez457]

i wonder how many times he said plastic in that section😭

[@ECPP]

Any guesses?

[@spliffsforbreakfast]

@@ECPP FUN FACT: _Plastic_ was said 23 times between 5:40-8:10

[@spliffsforbreakfast]

Also the reason why I’m here is because I found a _09 X5 xDrive30i_ online listed for about 6k. Im super tempted but I’ve only ever heard about the difficulties of owning a BMW vs any pro’s..

[@mrjozo-pr6ih]

...dunno ; how and when he used the word differential (3:00) that threw me off and out.....also check their stats in other sources, way more accurate.

[@jeanfortin1250]

Who cares!

[@reneseuret6271]

Some cars are like strippers, they only perform as long as you throw money at them.

[@Arch007]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣👍😎👍

[@davidsaechao4806]

Haha, comment of the month!

[@oncetwice5942]

I’m just learning this now 😂🤣😭😭.

[@happygolucky4752]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@ELP1125]

Oh wow 😂

[@pcdude2394]

My wife and I bought a brand new 325i back in 2006. I have to admit it was the ultimate driving machine until 2 years later it became the ultimate repair machine. Got rid of it and got the Lexus and still happy with it. It may not be ultimate driving machine, but it’s the ultimate quality machine.

[@ThinkDifferentish]

325i is the ultimate driving machine? Eh... if you like getting blown up off the line by a Jeep. The M cars can probably claim that title tho.

[@167dolo]

Lexus are great

[@mehdieminem]

2006 325i was the worst car ever made . I got 330ci zip manual in 2006 and 14 years later the car has 378k miles and still original clutch . Nothing has happened to it . I changed Battary tires , brakes and one ac compressor one blower motor resistor and valve cover gasket in 400k miles . That’s like going to the moon and half way back to Earth .

[@LexxLuther100]

you can't have a foreign car in NYC or places where you stop and go in traffic.

[@cmkm54]

@@ThinkDifferentish its not a drag car, its about balance. I screwed up when I first got my license and hit an off ramp at like 60 in the wet, young and dumb I know. But the e46 is such a balanced car I saved it and slid up the whole off ramp without hitting anything. I credit that car for saving my life.

[@smokescreenFromThe6ix]

People need to realize that you are not required to bring your car to a dealership. There are plenty of independent mechanics who specialize in fixing foreign cars who can save you thousands. Marble floors at the dealership doesn't impress me.

[@akane742]

Maybe if you live in a big city. I have a hard time finding anyone to work on my M3 any thing more involved than an oil change

[@Nestle245]

Some mechanics can't work on luxury cars, they need special codes that only the dealerships have.

[@ChrisG-gl5st]

@@Nestle245 yep

[@sabastiantaylor7209]

I agree with you but you do have to deal with the dealership when u are still under warranty and my bmw included ball the service for 4 years 48k miles. So I had to deal with the dealership. BMW customer service is an absolute nightmare. I stopped buying bmw’s because of the annoying customer service. Now that mine is older. I take it to a great place I found where the guy deals specifically in BMW ‘a. Once I sell this one. I won’t ever buy another bmw because of their severely poor customer service.

[@abdokl6828]

I don't know if you are from USA or Canada, but talking about USA : almost there's no honest good mechanic. They can't even fix cheap cars. Bringing them a luxury car is like permitting them to ruin it.

[@solotrippin09]

Owning a BMW has been my childhood dream but I'd spend my money on travelling rather than fixing everything that'd go wrong 10 years down the road. Happy with my Toyota

[@ECPP]

Thanks for sharing

[@regularman6328]

BMW. Overpriced crap.

[@Ashley_van_Schooneveld]

"There's nothing more expensive than a cheap BMW" -unknown

[@Ohne_Silikone]

A cheap Porsche?

[@famicomnintendo]

If you can't afford a new german luxury car, than you really can't afford a used one

[@papiboy6290]

any of u ever owned a bmw?

[@angrysocialjusticewarrior]

@@papiboy6290 pointless question. Your question only serves as an attempt to discredit the comments simply because you personally like BMW's. I like Mercedese (and yes, I have owned 1 benz and personally know several people who own them). But i will never let my love for Benz cloud my judgment over its reliability the same way you are doing for BMW. The cars are not as unreliable as people like to exaggerate them to be, but they do usually become money pits at 100 000 KM/200 000KM. The entry level ones (e.g c300 Benz or 3 series non diesel bmw) do scrape by to 300 000 KM before needing super expensive surprises. But ultimately, No BMW or Benz will ever be a 700 000 KM car like Toyota or Honda. Even Lexus is by far more reliable. and yes, I have owned Toyotas and Hondas and got all my Toyotas past 500 000KM (I still own them).

[@stevienguyen2047]

You mean there’s nothing more expensive than a USED bmw

[@sarathw5740]

This is a great video. I was driving BMW for 30 years. The problem was the BMW dealer service. They charge you four times the average service center but do not check the radiator water level! The problem is not the car but the shabby dealers.

[@startingtech3900]

You fill through the reservoir not the radiator. Damn you really were driving bmw 30 years ago lol

[@wolfnorth7075]

You guys are the problems, DO NOT buy German car if you are living in the States.

[@HiilandKew]

@@wolfnorth7075 The problem is the United States, they SHOULD have mandatory yearly MOT and servicing like in Europe. Maybe Libdems will push the matter.

[@user-xt7vj5cn5e]

@yhjo521 😂😭

[@YoungDreezee]

Totally agree.

[@juxhinmeminaj3446]

$250 to lookup the problem is ridiculous. Dealers are getting real scummy.

[@ECPP]

Absolutely

[@troytruong8246]

Most consumers are ignorant and stupid. They allow the stealership rip them off all the time.

[@joebloggs4191]

Here even a Toyota dealer will charge you around £100 to 150 for an hours investigation. Never use a main dealer for any car unless you are actually getting a really good deal which can happen sometimes but it is extremely rare. Best to find a marque specialist or another independent garage that you can trust. Or learn to do it yourself.

[@caesarguzman5831]

All people have to do is buy a cheap scanner lol, some things are actually an easy diy

[@alphadiallo1655]

@@caesarguzman5831 Exactly thats what i did. Even a caveman like me could read the codes and do research. save me a tons of money

[@edb.8388]

Great points, we loved our 3 series, but as you note maintenance costs over the long haul are a killer. Same issue with Audi and Mercedes. The German brands are great vehicles when new, but when the pre-paid initial maintenance plans go away, you really pay. So, unless your rich: you lease, enjoy then dump... Lexus is the only long term play in the luxury badges in my opinion.

[@omoniyikaye]

I totally agree with you I buy Lexus of an average age of 10yrs or more two currently owned and 7 in total since 2003 no problem. No other brand can stand the test of time like Lexus a brand that elevate me to a big boy level with a relative reasonable amount of money without breaking the bank❤️

[@daviegarden2624]

Insurance costs are geographical, if you buy a car made in ‘your’ country it should be affordable, if you buy one from another country insurance will be dearer the further away that country is due to the cost of shipping parts for repair and service etc.

[@whitecrowuk575]

Models and engines. Like in majority of cars you need to research. If youre buying used - data is there. There are some terrible engines and some best in the class. Same with different models. For instance models built in Germany have an excellent track record - GLC for instance. Year matters as well.

[@edb.8388]

@@whitecrowuk575 indeed

[@soulzy3596]

Lexus are Toyota essentially no ?

[@plausiblequotes7643]

“Drove a BMW for a while in my early days. It was great it helped me never to forget my wallet at home, because I knew that’s what it stands for... Bring My Wallet.” -Jay Leno

[@SSGTA440]

Big Money Wasted....

[@episodebeats2817]

Also "Break My Wallet"

[@blacklions]

Wow

[@BG-mw5pt]

that's not accurate anymore. it might have been back in the day, but now even a hyundai is dependable. after owning a couple of bm's i can say that it's only marginally more expensive to maintain than any other vehicle.

[@oncetwice5942]

😂😂😂. That’s actually funny because that’s true.

[@jamesrichardthompson]

Bought a 2014 BMW 535d last year. Paid $19,000. This car was originally $74,000. We have a mechanic who saves us about 40% from dealer, not including him not charging for stuff like the "diagnostic". We absolutely love the car! Oh, yeah its a diesel. Good sized car, surprisingly quiet and quick and gets about 30 mpg in mixed driving.

[@Eugenepanels]

Dealer asking price was $74k it was never worth that in the first place

[@jamesrichardthompson]

@David Bowman KS

[@wolfnorth7075]

How much and what did your 40% less pricy mechanic do to your beloved BMW?

[@sanjapkoki]

Can your mechanic travel the world? I need help here in Jamaica

[@jamesrichardthompson]

@@sanjapkoki unfortunately no... and we are now moving away. Got to find another one...

[@jacobkirby5344]

To all the people arguing about what rich people drive. They drive what makes them happy not the price tag. It’s not always about how much you spend

[@paris07able]

The luxury of having money lol

[@thebigpicture2032]

I like $400 cars from original owners who have maintained them well.

[@khronin]

@@evancycles I am well off and want performance.I bought a 2020 AWD KIA Stinger 3.3TT--36k last year at the height of covid.No reason to blow over 60k for a car--they just depreciate and in 5 years some things are outdated.I had a 50k budget--my Stinger was 19k after the trade in i own.So I own my stinger--have 30k plus in the bank--have my insurance paid for in full for the next 5 years--and already have money for my next car.I also add a few thousand yearly to my auto account.I have had no problems with KIA--they gave me the full 10 year warranty on the whole car--and if it stays in the shape it seems to--i will probably buy the updated Stinger.BMW's get very expensive and what i despie about german and american is after their warranty is up--when you take it for an oil change after the third year--they always find 500 to 1k in crap wrong.

[@AMaidenlessRunt]

The CEO of Ikea drives an old stage wagon.

[@Chris-de2qc]

@@Hazza101 man you got triggered.

[@leonmorris3370]

I also work for an Auto company. Any used BMW we get coming through for inspections are total crap. Worn suspension, oil leaks and inoperative electronics. Most of the new vehicle purchasers in my area only buy them for the status and can't afford to maintain them.

[@strafer8764]

I don’t know if it’s the same for BMW’s but I’ve heard Mercedes are built to be leased.

[@yobrewop123]

$ 250 for an oil change, you are killing me! I do my own for $19

[@ECPP]

Nice

[@Pepe-dq2ib]

$19 for an oil change? I do it for free.

[@Hunter-pk7ym]

@@Pepe-dq2ib even free is expensive i just DO IT!!

[@Pepe-dq2ib]

@@Hunter-pk7ym i am soo fucking jealous now.

[@CitizenZero1]

I have lifetime oil changes for free! Got my car in 2009 during the downturn and they were offering crazy promotions.

[@OmegaF77]

Legend says that he's still walking backwards to this day.

[@Void_ThelastPoet]

🤣😂🤣

[@sophiacardiel7862]

Lol 😂

[@siyandabiyela2601]

🤣🤣🤣Funny guy

[@able76]

Lmbo!

[@brucetracphone1742]

BMW! BMW!! BMW!!!

[@maplemumbai]

As someone who works for a Auto company, finally, someone who spoke the truth behind used cars vs new cars. Used cars are way cheaper if you have cash or are willing to buy a 5 year car with cash. New cars especially BMWs have so much fluff in them but the lease/finance rates make up for it. The maintenance in all these exotic cars is insane but if you have the money to buy a BMW then you better have the money to maintain it, else you are just one of those show offs.

[@Q_QQ_Q]

just like the iphone

[@angrysocialjusticewarrior]

Lets be honest, Who buys a bmw to *NOT* be a show off?

[@dunamisfelis2961]

well, they are aesthetic and one of the best touring and drifting cars. not always showing off as to quality and looks

[@nickthegun]

@@angrysocialjusticewarrior - I bought one because I was driving thousands of miles a year and it was a nice place to be for hours a day. I sold it at the end of last year because now I'm not. That said we dont generally get as many jealous people claiming only show offs buy them as they are actually quite common in the UK. I think the 3 Series is like our 5th best selling car annually, so maintenance, parts and whatnot are actually not that expensive (which is good as it was one of the most unreliable cars Ive ever owned).

[@eugeneabreut5208]

@@angrysocialjusticewarrior you know who buys it to show off and who buys it to enjoy the driving dynamic of the car. The show offs go and by a brand new base model 320i. A real car enthusiast goes a buys a 335i sport package. You can tell

[@dt3963]

‘Specialist’ mechanics are the heroes we don’t appreciate. Rescuing us from the stealerships

[@BBB-rd2qi]

Truth! I work for one… He’s excellent!

[@williambuxton8223]

3.5 years owned f31 330d,50,000 miles oil and tyres ..still makes me smile daily

[@jamesoplace3825]

Service auto trans is a must

[@fightthegoodfight52]

I bought my 2013 335i e92 at 58% off in 2016! It was in excellent condition and only had 34k miles on the odometer! I got a lot of issues resolved while it was under warranty. I have a great local mechanic that does great work and doesn’t charge me an arm and a leg! I recently paid it off and am hoping for many years of driving enjoyment! 🙂

[@whitecrowuk575]

That’s really cheap!

[@kapriseedwards9687]

Im so jealous

[@DigitalCubeX]

I helped a friend take her BMW to a dealer service centre for some leakage. Got quoted $300AUD ($200USD) for a "visual inspection", not even connect the BMW to a computer for checks. The lady explicitly emphasized a "visual inspection". At that moment I abandoned my dream of owning a M3. My current car is a Stinger and is very happy with it, other than the petrol cost.

[@ECPP]

I would say stay away from the brand unless you are good at working on your own cars or have a lot of play money.

[@TreyKing63]

I bought all 3 of my BMW's used from the original owner. Knowing how the original owner maintained and drove the car is the key. And yes all 3 are old enough to be normally aspirated so the complexity is much lower.

[@mrblack6467]

Had a 7-series. Having it break all the time took the fun right out of it. Never again.

[@MadazzaMusik]

Same with any new car I've stopped buying cars now. I have voted with my feet. If I buy another car it will be a keoniggseg when I get the money from not being ripped off for years

[@prosedi17]

the worse compaired to the old 7 series,the twin turbo v8 is probably the worst engine ever made.seals and valve guides total shit.

[@nizarkailani6463]

Read my comment

[@davidclaro152]

Get a Toyota or Honda. You won’t be disappointed. Yes, there’s maintenance like other cars, but the maintenance is minimal and so is the price.

[@theshield1613]

@@prosedi17 are the 2000-2008 7 series reliable.

[@James-mw7zv]

I bought a 4 yr old bmw 328i at a dirt cheap price and I LOOOOOVE IT! Some sensor issues but I ignore them never take it to a dealership not even to a garage. The car drives so fine after 3 yrs very powerful. No regret whatsoever

[@deleteaccount5817]

What year I want to buy one but scared

[@alinazang6651]

128, 328, 528, all very reliable. Get the picture?

[@melaniefeltsfagan1227]

Hahaha oh no. Don’t ignore those lights!!!! I promise you, they will blow up like you’ve never seen if you do. In my experience, those lights go off with a bit of time before the final blow up. So you can get the car to the shop or home usually (they’re color coded too so if you see red it’s an emergency. Yellow is caution, orange it’s about to blow, red it’s not safe to drive.) not always but I’ve had these cars for two decades and this has been my experience. Go get a code reader so you can at least look the codes up and see what’s going on. But if you ignore them it will be bad news when a minor repair then blows up into thousands and thousands. Ask me how I know 😭😉. You see the light and the car seems fine so you keep going, and then stop even noticing it’s on. Thats when you learn to regret it lol. Just check the code then you’ll know for sure. I love these cars, too. They are 🔥.

[@lifeisagambletv]

Warranty or not... this shit is UNACCEPTABLE!! I understand BMW's safety mechanisms but to have the car completely shut down while you are driving is INSANE... you can have a accident or whatever and these are high end vehicles.... I've had 3 fuckin 7 series the first one which was pretty much a piece of shit was the best out of the 3.... I had a 2007 750Li.... the alternator caught on fire and smoke was coming thru my vent... fast forward... I copped a 2011 750li BEAUTIFUL EXTERIOR AND INTERIOR.... all kinds of leak problems, injector malfunctions.. that twin turbo engine was HORRIBLE... the mechanic didn't even want to work on it .... I had my own BMW mechanic so I felt comfy purchasing this car in his words he said "GET RID OF IT UNLESS YOU WANT TO GO BANKRUPT " lol.... smh I still didn't listen me and my wife found a 2012 740Li at a chevy dealer i copped that one and on the way home.. it had a transmission malfunction and shut down.. I had to get the tow to come tow it back in the rain to the dealership which was about 15 miles away... and the dealer said just come get your down payment money back... I said aren't you going to fix it for the next customer? he said "NO WE AIN'T PUTTIN NO MORE MONEY INTO THIS CAR ITS GOING BACK TO THE AUCTION!" SMH lol I wanted one so bad but I ended up getting an Audi A8 from Carvana and it hasn't given me anywhere near the issues i've had with those 7 series...

[@ECPP]

This has been some recent experience for me as well. Thanks so much for sharing.

[@carlssonlim]

I'm surprise someone still getting his 3rd BMW eventhough he got upset by both the previous units. 😂

[@lifeisagambletv]

@@carlssonlim 3rd times the unlucky charm lol

[@theguru4798]

And you went to Audi for relief?

[@carlssonlim]

@@theguru4798 Perhaps Toyota is the answer

[@flybobbie1449]

10 minutes later, the staff arrived and he was chased off with a base ball bat.

[@nothingtoitbuttodoit]

🤣🤣🤣

[@toppf294]

🤣🤣🤣

[@jamesmurray3128]

Baseball is one word. Learn to spell.

[@flybobbie1449]

@@jamesmurray3128 -OK Rounders then. A girls game here in England.

[@realdealphil7362]

🤣🤣🤣

[@DeanTWaters]

The 6th reason they are so cheap: They're unreliable! My used 7-Series with 60k miles on it cost more to maintain than my S65 AMG with over twice the miles!!! And that's saying something... Owning a used BMW was like owning a boat - I couldn't wait to buy it. And I couldn't wait to get rid of it. Never again, BMW.

[@jonnierendon]

Has to be the year of your 7 series

[@WhiteBoy-mq9nt]

7 series is well known for that and you should have done your research. Thats legit the worst first BMW you could have bought. It is not marketed for basic drivers. Never let the 7 series speak for all BMW. Ive had a 3 series for 5 years now and all I had to do is replace spark plugs and air intake. Other than that just basic maintenance. I dont have any bmw horror stories to share 🤷

[@dani5612]

@@WhiteBoy-mq9nt what year is your x3 series? i really want to get an x3 but all these reviews are scaring me

[@IAMYUNGGAF]

@@WhiteBoy-mq9nt oh now it's the consumers fault that someone produced a shitty car lol

[@WhiteBoy-mq9nt]

@@IAMYUNGGAF sure

[@georgesealy4706]

Yes, BMWs are expensive to maintain. I know. I had one many years ago. If you want a Beemer, then lease one for a year and get it out of your system.

[@simplecarblog5663]

Reason: Probably that the warranty is out and that the repairs are costly.

[@dsc-nr5zy]

What? No! Never! 😂

[@vjlorenzo4130]

Repairs? Lol buy one part from fcp euro and u can keep getting one for free. Lifetime warranty baby

[@anthonyb2990]

Dingdingding we have a winner! Enjoy your price, a brand new BMW!!!

[@rembo183]

80% are leased then dumped! The only way to drive one is LEASE. You can buy one certified by dealer but the warranty is usually short like 1-2 years left.

[@DrTommyDDS]

You can get a used 2020 330i for about 35k. A new one goes for 45k. The used one still has 3+ yrs of manufacturers warranty. ...its not the warranty or repair cost.

[@nyrider8396]

two happiest days in a BMW owner's life: the day you buy it and the day you depart it.

[@chrislim7976]

And you know how people know you've never owned a BMW? 🤦‍♂️

[@adude8424]

@@chrislim7976 I used to own one. Swapped it for a Mazda 3 . Best decision in my life.

[@chrislim7976]

@@adude8424 Mazda 3s are nice and don't carry the nonsense that BMW'S do but best decision in your life? Ok.

[@YTStopCensoringFreedomOfspeech]

@@chrislim7976 i used to drive benz's, audi's, beamer's. Once you stop using these luxury sports cars as a daily driver. You'll stop feeling like you are being greased. These types of vehicles are all designed to suck as much money from your pocket by planned obsolescence. I used to think others admired me for driving these types of vehicles. They dont care. It was just my own ego thinking I was better than others for having this vehicle. Now that I have matured, I now see myself as a fool who was over paying for the ability to drive. It's not like you can really use the performance of these vehicles sustainable or often, you follow the speed limit most of the time. If I ever decide to spend 50k or more on a vehicle again. I'd buy a fully electric, like a Tesla. Luxury ICE vehicles are waste of money. I see anyone who owns these vehicles as suckers.

[@derekcrymble9085]

Just like a JAAAAG !

[@stevebarry8651]

Me behind the wheel of a BMW puts a smile on my face any day of the week, saving a few grands a year on a boring car does not. End of story.

[@ECPP]

I agree Steve. Driving enjoyment trumps all. Cheers

[@Pitty212on]

the issue is you dont save a few grand :D the car itself costs shitton + service = broke af

[@r1ch0007]

Find a good indy; it'll save you a ton of money.

[@aj6761]

I bought my bimmer knowing annual maintenance is pricey. Then again, I can also afford it. Crazy right?

[@andrewheffel3565]

Nothing wrong with owning a BMW if you like it and can afford it. Just lease it for 3 years and trade it in on a new one, it's always under warranty. Me, I prefer to buy a new Toyota or Lexus and drive it for 10 or 12 years. I go for long term reliability. My Lexus RX 350 has plenty of luxury.

[@Oillife-kk2yb]

I own a 2016 428i gran coupe with the m sport package. I haven’t had any issues at all. Bought it with 60,000 miles and currently have 146,000. If you take one to a dealer they will over charge which most dealerships do. They have other repair facilities that fix them for a reasonable cost. Maintenance cost is not expensive on mine either. But it’s all about what a person can afford and want to drive..especially if they love the vehicle.

[@babermunir7255]

Yeah I just purchased the same model as you and same mileage. Hopefully I don't run into any problems as well.

[@babermunir7255]

How much were your maintenance costs so far?

[@kasanova3056]

This is so true. I currently have an oil leak and just now overheating issues

[@SS-qu6pm]

The stealerships really scares so many BWW, Mercedes, Porsche and Audi fans away

[@ECPP]

It really does outside of warranty for sure

[@Mista808]

Include Audi to that list!

[@troytruong8246]

Idiots buy euro cars when out of warranty. You lease them! End of story. If you dont know that by now, you are stupid.

[@troytruong8246]

U buy used unless u are a mechanics.

[@Beasy1103]

@@troytruong8246 I owned my bmw for 8 years and I learned after a year just learn and do most repairs myself.

[@eleazarmoraru6532]

Marble floors is why we pay more at the start. that's honestly hilarious and super accurate at the same time.

[@ECPP]

Thanks. It really is.

[@essenceofauset7272]

The dealership really is upscale. It was better than Lexus IM.

[@kylefleming7680]

Owned an f30 for ten years, most of the talk about service costs is only true if you go to a bmw dealership. If you do go there, I think you should check your life choices. Find a shop that you trust and have them work on your car. Mine has been very reliable and I have only done about 2k dollars of repairs since the warranty went out. Other than that it was just oil changes, brakes and tires. Nothing hectic.

[@ulysseskruger]

This comment has the most common sense

[@Ur_cristiano_778]

I service my M4 Myself, no need for a trip to the stealership

[@ECPP]

Good plan

[@zayseeu8337]

Good car guy !

[@ZAzhar101]

Hehe that's why my 06 3 series lasted 10 years until wrecked.

[@deyken2008]

Stealership. I fucking LOVE it! I'm going to use that from now on. Ha ha ha ha!

[@marvij200]

@@deyken2008 same!

[@allans7281]

Fancy jumpsuits and that cost money that is hilarious

[@ECPP]

Cheers. Throw a little subtle humour in there.

[@xbwang87]

indeed

[@dirttdog1]

🤣

[@Mrap233]

🤣🤣🤣

[@larrycourtney5638]

I have sold alot of "high end" cars and BMW was one that had a ton of problems. We had a customer that his wife wanted a X-5. So we went to the Auction and got him a low mileage late model X-5. We talked to him about 2 months later and he told us it was a good thing he owned his own shop and had his own mechanics because he said I've already had to replace the alternator and starter on this piece of crap. It didn't take him long to get rid of it and go back to a Lexus. Best car made period for the money. I've owned 4 Lexus's myself.

[@myfrankfurt]

Great advice. I bought my 525i from 2004 in 2009 with 60k km. For 16k Eur. Now still driving it with 210k km. It's still worth 5500 Eur :) Leaving brakes, fluids and filters aside, I have only paid 2000 Eur in repairs on my car in 13.5 years of driving. Some stuff I do myself and I use BMW software, but I don't have a garage, so my tools are limited. My BMW 525i with M54 is the cheapest ride I ever owned!

[@ECPP]

nice

[@Skeletomania]

Even if I can fix the car I would rather spend my day off enjoying my holiday than figuring out what broke again

[@bobjones9600]

Skeleto

[@smartassboy]

This is definitely true. I own three BMWs and I'm constantly diagnosing or repairing stuff but I love driving them. I rather spend time fixing my cars than spending time on the couch watching ridicuolus TV. Spending quality time with family is OK with me but not doing meaningless activities. Plus I save a big chunk of money I can use on my next vacation. Everyone's perspective is different.

[@troytruong8246]

Well said!

[@francoherrera1265]

You probably a mechanic or work for un of these scamdealerships

[@stevec3526]

A co-worker bought a 3 year old 850i for about a third of list. He loved the car but it was constantly in the shop and the cost was killing him. He got rid of it and bought a WRX and he was much happier.

[@oberstleutnant787]

Probable high repairs/parts cost is less of a concern comparing to the prestige and joy of owning a BMW.

[@IAMYUNGGAF]

i don't even know how prestigious they are anymore. They're so many models and so many of them on the road these days.

[@abedawg94]

Prestige?? Lol 🤣

[@richardmarcott4343]

They are also likely to burn down in your garage several hours after shut off, see the class action suit against them.

[@001spring]

I'll save everyone 10min, they're cheap because they don't age well.

[@JohnSmith-ku7yu]

Tanks

[@robfellows9833]

The majority of the BMW range age brilliantly. Cars from 20, even 30 years ago still look and drive very well. You can't say that about many cars.

[@001spring]

@@robfellows9833 I can't say that about many cars, including BMW

[@bobjones9600]

@@robfellows9833 Good Rob fellow. You have to be smarter than what your working with. Just do basic maintenance. Change oil. 15k oil. No. No. No.

[@bobjones9600]

@@robfellows9833 5k oil. Yes.

[@valianttmt8044]

Why are BMWs cheap? Because they LEAK! I work for a large auto auction company and I have inspected countless numbers of BMWs and the majority of them leak. They're great when they're new but as they age, the gaskets and seals go bad on them. My 3rd Gen Toyota RAV4 3.5L V6 is BONE DRY underneath and it has 191,000 miles on it. Still runs strong and trans shifts beautifully - wouldn't trade my Toyota for any BMW. BMW - Bring More Wipes / Bring More Wrenches / Bavarian Manure Wagon / Big Money Waste

[@ecurb10]

Wow, exactly....so why are they so expensive if they're so poorly engineered?

[@valianttmt8044]

@@ecurb10 I don't think they are poorly engineered - I think most, if not all, German cars are overly engineered. From what I was told by the guys who I work with, BMW decided to save a few pennies and switch vendors who made the seals and gaskets for their engines. Oh, those bean counters. Well, you can figure out the rest.

[@ecurb10]

@@valianttmt8044 Yea but it's not just leaky seals. And it depends on your defenition of 'poor engineering' - I'd call any over-engineering, especially if it's unreliable - poor engineering. It's just bad design. Surely the bottom line is if it works and if it keeps working.

[@valianttmt8044]

@@ecurb10 Unfortunately, just about every car has become too sophisticated - that's just the reality of it. Car manufacturers don't want people doing work on their own car - they want you to go to your local dealership to get it fixed. Everything is electronic (yuk!) so customers don't know how to work on that and only dealerships have the electronic equipment to work on cars. I just think the more sh!t you put in a car, the more things that can break down.

[@mrs.g2147]

Good to know

[@manonmars2009]

So long as people continue to buy these cars at inflated prices, car manufacturers will continue to make them.

[@ECPP]

That’s true

[@wenzenuf221]

Up to 500% markup

[@meabob]

It seems that people who start making money buy the EuroTrash. Wealthy people tend to go Asian.

[@MaestroJericho]

@@meabob bro, every nice neighborhood I pass by are Japanese cars/Kias/somewhat older Ford/American trucks/suvs (always CRVs). While the section 8 housing near me have all sorts of BMWs and other fancy cars.

[@safewaydriving3463]

Having been an owner of three used BMWs, I would never purchase another used BMW again. The service costs are completely outrageous. My experience, once a BMW hits 30 to 40,000 miles, you’re going to be opening your wallet frequently. The BMW rides beautifully, but do not keep them too long. It’s unfortunate that these vehicles are so expensive however they are not built for the long haul. Most of my friends who were BMW owners, are deciding to go to a different vehicle brand.My suggestion is to lease a BMW and when the lease is up, say goodbye.

[@whitecrowuk575]

Have had two so far first ridden from new to 45k no even single issue, second from 18k - 36k so far and the same. I think what matters is what engine you go with. 2 liter and v8 are not good choices especially the latter. One and the only brilliant engine is inline 6. It’s a marvel. Btw version of it was used in Royce and in newer Range Rover - the only RR which doesn’t get engine issues lol

[@dcgregorya5434]

@@whitecrowuk575 those miles are nothing. If you gotta do more than a brake job and fluid/filter changes, maybe some tire repairs by 45k mile you have an awful car. You don't find out if its good until 70-150k...if it gets past that without any problems then you have a good car but generally BMWs need many repairs during that time period.

[@whitecrowuk575]

@@dcgregorya5434 it’s different take for sure - it all depends on our definition of reliable car - rarely anyone would be keeping one from new for 10 years while doing 20k miles a year. It depends on how it’s serviced how it’s been driven more owners it has its muddies the picture and it’s hard to say one car is bad if it’s got issues after 8years of use - it’s impossible to compare to other cars really as there aren’t any official reports on this so we really don’t know. What we do know is first 3-4 years reports - what is QC for any given model - if it’s got many issues even smaller ones it’s possible down the road there will be bigger ones. There are already brands that have comparably serious QC issues. But each model needs to be treated separately as quite often they are made in different places. German cars built in Germany have outstanding QC same as Japanese in Japan.

[@nunyabizness1708]

I had a 325 that I purchased used(2 years old) back in the day. It did have the typical BMW electric problem with one of the windows, but the other than that, it was rock solid. Drove it back and forth from AZ - WI quite a few times and never had an issue. It still is one of my favorite cars.

[@Fattony6666]

only a beamer driver would call a car with electrical issues "rock solid"

[@Eldomibori]

@@Fattony6666 An electric window issue is not a big deal. I had over 200k on my 325i manual when I sold it. They require more routine maintenance but they are worth it in my opinion if you have the money to maintain.

[@TfromDaygo]

@@Fattony6666 how can you call a window not going down “ electrical issues” that’s literally ONE problem lol and it was more than likely the motor in the door itself that went bad . It’s very common

[@robertwalker7010]

👍👍👍👍🤟

[@donaldbanner2185]

I bet you were nervous on those long drives.....Life is FAR TOO short............Reliability on a trip or in an emergency is KING!....Get a Lexus and garage your freaK'n dumb ego!

[@jedielder7970]

I couldn't agree more. All of my friends who have bought used BMW's have regretted it... they are simply money pits. They will nickel and dime you to the poor house (and it's usually people who don't have a lot of money, but want to look like they do). Also, so true about all the plastic they use under the hood... it's junk and expensive. When they are new, and/or in perfect shape, they are super fun, otherwise they cannot hold a candle to the longevity, reliability and lower expenses of most Japanese cars. Don't get me wrong, I like BMW's, they look sexy and perform, but no thanks, unless you can find a dealer who will give you a really good deal on a lease (low money down and all scheduled maintenance included). PS: I have two "extra cars," one a Toyota and one a Mitsubishi, both with about 200,000 + miles on them, and they run like champs. 👍

[@wolfnorth7075]

spot on bro, I believe a happy man is the one who live by his means. You will be really frustrated if you live beyond your means, even more stupid is to pretend you have more money than you really have. I am not sure about living in Europe, I am living in the States, I would never touch European cars.

[@fendermon]

@@wolfnorth7075 I worked 6 yrs in a Mazda/VW dealer garage and marveled almost daily at how much better quality the Mazda's were. Also, marveled at how both would pay the mechanics only a small fraction of the actual time it would take to do a repair. Often the time would expire while the mechanic was still in the parking lot looking for the car. If not in the parking lot... the time would expire while troubleshooting or standing at the parts counter ordering parts (which are essentially never stocked). When the warranty expired it was payback time. Mechanics, and service writers, would make every effort to even the score ...at the customers expense.

[@jedielder7970]

@@dtowndurango I gave you a thumbs up because your opinion is also correct. It is my experience though, that used BMW's cost a lot of money to fix. I have owned both Japanese and European cars and the Euro's are more expensive to keep up. However, they usually handle very well and are fun to drive. Where I live now, it doesn't matter much because there are speed limits and a lot of traffic lights. I do see people racing from on light to the next, lol.

[@tonyrappa4611]

Every time you drive a used BMW you're constantly looking to see if a check engine light comes on because you know it's coming any minute

[@chesspro22k64]

Lol it’s always a nervous drive.

[@batman1169]

Lol. So true after startup ,always looking for it to light up 😆

[@tonyrappa4611]

@@batman1169 who the hell wants to live like that and then when the BMW mechanic tells you what he wants to fix it Your heart skips a beat

[@extraglutenplz3758]

@@tonyrappa4611 always be under warranty

[@kjbugz15]

Brahhh tell me about it lol 😂

[@markfox5171]

I had an 06 Porsche Cayenne S. My brother gave it to me free. 2 years later I sold it at a loss for $5400 because of the repairs and I did most of the work myself. I still miss that car but the repairs bills are ridiculous. Too many cheap parts on such an expensive vehicle. Sounds like BMW is the same

[@quantumeyes8546]

Nothing to do with me. But I guess that's the reason you got it free.

[@bill7481]

I get tempted by the great deals that I see in my area. Then I come to my senses. Enough stressors in life already.

[@Blue-moon12]

Good choice

[@parislove616]

I live right by Bob Smith, I know what you mean when you come to your senses, it’s like seeing the light!!!💡😂

[@troytruong8246]

Owning euro cars out of warranty=stresses and nightmares. I wont make the same mistake again buying used bmw. Lol

[@dwalker885]

great point

[@goofydog2]

After two years my TERRIFIC X3 depreciated by really close to 50%. OUCH!!!

[@troytruong8246]

goofydog2 my condolences to your decision making. X3? Lol gl with that!

[@goofydog2]

@@troytruong8246 I've owned a slew of very nice cars, including porsches, mercedes, etc. And hands down, the X# has been the absolute one of the best vehicles I've had the pleasure of owning.

[@troytruong8246]

@K Jhnsn the next person who buy this car out of warranty is an idiot. Does not matter how cheap it is. It will be a money pit.

[@goofydog2]

@K Jhnsn There isn't a truer statement! But I'll keep it till the wheels fall off.

[@goofydog2]

@John Edwards Nice to hear sage advice. Their is a price to pay for the pleasure of driving a well schooled vehicle. The X 3 is such a car.

[@sonyawilliams4989]

Pay cash for your car and buy a few years old, you’re welcome in advance.

[@sharpemang]

Aka buy a Toyota product. You're welcome

[@VaunShiz]

Why cash ? If you're not a drug dealer and a normal person, interest rates aren't high and you don't have to drain your bank , some manufacturer will offer 0% 😅

[@sonyawilliams4989]

Ahren Scholz There are no zero interest rates on used cars. Secondly, if you have to drain your bank account to buy a car, that means you can’t afford it.

[@Adamo2JZ]

Sonya Williams yes there is, it’s called CPO...

[@sonyawilliams4989]

A C No there isn’t, they have low interest rates but not zero. Secondly, why pay any interest at all? Waste of money no matter the interest, pay cash and pay zero interest.

[@ericramirez7774]

Getting “greased” , “bent over” , adding these to my vocabulary now

[@filmlover2284]

8,567 words in just six minutes. A new world record. Nice job!

[@edwardjones1894]

This Guy is A WEALTH of knowledge. Thank You for the understanding..

[@ECPP]

Thanks Edward

[@dariopranckevicius1250]

They are cheap because most people can’t turn a wrench. I love it. Allows me to buy amazing cars for so cheap!!!

[@nizarkailani6463]

Go buy an F01 and try fix that . .

[@wism3179]

I might know how to turn a wrench but I'm not willing to pay thousands of dollars for parts, especially BMW that uses a lot of plastic crap. It's just retarded

[@martinalbert5653]

@@wism3179 They drive great when they are running well.

[@kyrozephyr4624]

@@wism3179 The aftermarket for Bimmers is huge and the parts are super cheap

[@Daniyoyo]

And some can and still prefer to call a plumber

[@understandthis4634]

I have two BMW, 2016 528i and 2009 328i. So far I have replaced so much in both that I practically builded a new car. Not by choice but have family members that don’t know about cars. 2016 with 50k mileage had valve cover gasket replaced (they all leak oil), motor mounts replaced, rear diff bushings. Never had to change so much with 50k miles

[@ECPP]

Exactly, just wrong that these things fail so quickly and there are bigger issues shortly after that

[@miketheman4341]

You should not be buying a BMW if you have these concerns! Yes BMW is overpriced! And water is wet! The problem is that people are trying to live a BMW life with a Honda budget!

[@lovezone128]

Whats a BMW life , the mechanic share more time with it than the owner

[@miketheman4341]

ALWAYS RIGHT Except that is nonsense! BMWs few issues during their first 5 years and owners trade in their cars on average every 3 years. When 2nd and 3rd owners have issues 8 years after it came off the line its hardly a concern of the original buyer!

[@iainhogg9830]

Honda more reliable than any BMW

[@miketheman4341]

Iain Hogg But it’s a horrible car!

[@Blue-moon12]

Except Honda has far better reliability

[@chronomatt6990]

I knew it. The high price of new BMWs: “Free coffee”.

[@adrianp1539]

Don't forget about those damn marble floors.

[@bobjones9600]

@@adrianp1539 30,000 for a brake job after 20k miles on a Mercedes w/ carbon fibre brakes. That'll pay for a couple of cups of joe.

[@SuccessHutchinson]

Does the coffee come with biscuits?

[@daveheel]

In all honesty, the coffee is good.

[@b2tall239]

I've owned 2 used BMWs (330 and 535i). I'd never buy a new one....they are overpriced but they are great cars and I thoroughly enjoyed driving them. I never had any major problems but I was lucky in that I had access to a BMW tech who did side work for half the price of the dealership. Outside of regular maintinence the only issue I had was with the AC blower on the 535i. The tech came to my house and my total for parts and labor was $350. The dealership wanted $800. I drove each of my used BMWs for 3 years before moving on. I was very happy with them.

[@jessebull4375]

I had a 2012 335, entire safety system failed when I was rear ended at a stoplight. Kid hit me doing 50, air bag failed to deploy and the seat belt tensioner failed. Slammed my head against the upper windshield frame. The idrive system told on itself. Last bmw I’ll own.

[@kadeem.spencer]

Did it hurt?

[@bbdlbd104]

My wife and I have driven BMWs for over a decade. Here is my formula for purchasing one: Buy a 3 year old CPO 3 series sedan or X3 that just came off lease. Or a courtesy/executive demo that is younger. Don't spend more than 35k, don't buy one with more than 20k miles. Wait for the 1% financing. Put zero down. Consider selling after 5 years of ownership. Do all scheduled maintenance. We have had no mechanical issues, ever- Maybe that's just luck. I can usually find a vehicle that fits this criteria within a month of searching in the Boston area, where everything is expensive. We all agree, they are not Hondas.

[@number1Schumacherfan]

We’ve bought CPO too and have had zero issues. I’d say this buy new or CPO with low miles and keep forever. Most people have issues buying a high mileage vehicle and then are surprised that maintenance is expensive. I do all of the maintenance myself outside of brakes and transmission. I basically have just done regular oil changes at 7500 and spark plugs and coils. It’s running great at 100k and still looks brand new in and out.

[@bbdlbd104]

@@number1Schumacherfan Our 2016 328i has about 73k on it, but literally looks and drives like the day I bought it in 2017 with 5k miles on it. Garage kept, but I still expected worse with the New England winters. Also the X-drive is amazing, even on a sport sedan. It put a 2015 Subaru Outback to shame in the snow, which we sold, after endless electronic problems. Go figure.

[@johnnytiger1686]

Why we buy a car just hanging on luck? Yeah buy a bmw meaning you are already rich, you dolar is far supprased your basic need for example in indonesia if you cost of living is 3000 USD per month then your income 10.000 USD /month or wealth in you bank should 1000.000 USD. Then you are ready to have a brand new bmw and hold it and changing with new BMW when warranty is over ( every 3years). Coz extend warranty in indonesia is cost you about 6000 USD and price new of bmw 330i = 95.000- 100.000 USD. So you can imagine how rich in POV of indonesian when you ride a new BMW. I dont know how indonesian has so many rich guy, what they do for living, maybe they are sell weapon on blackmarket, Lol XP

[@billmellater]

So basically the most reliable BMW's sit in the garage.

[@NiumeLTU]

Or just get E39 or E46

[@kevper96]

BIG GIGGER thought the e46 and the other clases of those years were considered “unreliable”

[@veauxorleans5875]

kevin not At All! I have one with 210k miles and it runs like a dream with little maintenance needed.

[@elainaellis2024]

@@kevper96 my 2003 e46 went to 210k miles.. insane engine. loved that car.

[@JohnBoulding]

They are not the car for the average consumer , based on the initial cost and the price of repairs.

[@pracakosaipilarka4301]

When you buy a high performance car and drive it accordingly, don't expect it to be cheap and durable. Buy reasonably powered BMW and drive it like commuter and you'll be all right. But of course like any ather manufacturer BMW has it's better and worse components, it's good to know beforehand what to avoid. Here in Europe BMW are rather reliable cars maybe it's US product that's a problem.

[@ECPP]

That’s true. Drive it hard and it will need extra maintenance.

[@Olliebobalong]

@@ECPP Also, question why there are no American cars sold in Europe now.

[@carlosgrajales44]

@@Olliebobalong yes ,there are but too little ,probably because most of the American cars are V8 ,

[@willwong1234]

To a certain extent, yes, I agree to this common sense and I put this philosophy in practice with all my cars so that my primary vehicle for commuting is closing in on the 1/2 million kilometres mark on the odometer now. The only thing is that, if plastic components are indiscriminately used under the hood, plastics brittle under heat and also when they age, whether you drive the car or just let it sit in the garage.

[@pracakosaipilarka4301]

@@willwong1234 Yes, they age as everything does, but plastic less than most. Heat may be an issue due to deforming, but I assume it was forseen. They don't use it for working parts after all, I had plenty of it in all my cars, not a problem.

[@schalkloots6988]

Being a BMW technician for many years, I can witness that BMW s maintenance becomes exponentially more expensive the older they get....and unreliable. Not a viable feature for many secondhand buyers.

[@hue4512]

Ok now I will never buy a BMW new or used. Thanks brother!

[@rexcharles11]

Bought a used ‘16 F32 with 20K miles on it for $21K 3 years ago. It was a steal. It now has 112K miles on it. Standard maintenance as needed. I’ve had my check engine light come on and it was cause of the battery. Otherwise, no major issues yet. Love this car and the brand. I drive it to death and road trip like crazy. Change the oil and spark plugs and take care of it as you should. Off course it’s an ICE car so things are bound to break but I drive 30K miles per year on avg and no major issues yet. The avg person can buy a used BMW second hand and have a great quality car long term. I do plan to keep this car but it won’t be my daily driver much longer.

[@PilotUnknownX]

30k miles a year? And people wonder why shit breaks in their Bmws lol.

[@EncikSiMs]

BMW technicians wearing a jumpsuit while Lambo and Ferrari technicians wearing an Astronaut suits

[@ECPP]

Lol

[@sophiacardiel7862]

Lol 😂

[@mrl9235]

🤣😂😅🙊

[@SmartProjectsABC]

My second BMW is a used 530dx GT and I really love it. Here in Europe, many good BMW services are not BMW licensed but are much cheaper. For example on my previous car, BMW would charge 400e for new battery while other service (not BMW licensed) charged me only 260 (same AGM battery). The same for brakes, fuel etc.

[@user-xt7vj5cn5e]

Lucky you 👍

[@chutulotanbaro2507]

Great cars but very expensive to maintain. I used to own a used 5 series, and every time I took it for maintenance, I used to pay through the nose.

[@dave3657]

I bought a used one a few years back, it was cheap, needed a few things fixed but overall in good shape. I couldn't fix it faster than things broke, most of my miles were from my house to the repair shop. I didn't take it to the dealer, did that once and that was a mistake. The rear spring broke on the car, something I've never had a car do before. I sold it with things still broken or needing replaced and bought a Dodge Charger. Repairs to date on the Charger $0 vs the $5,000 spent on repair and maintaining the BMW. For me it wasn't fear mongering, but reality.

[@robi4387]

I feel your pain. Orange peel paint. Night vision never worked for me. Header tank, PAS radiator, Aircon radiator, wishbone, power control module, photochromic mirror glass, window cu, window motor, drivers window (laminated and it cracked), dealer fitted tracker failed = flat battery, new battery, CAS failure = flat battery, new battery. steering rack bearings, Active air-spring. Map pocket hinges. Thigh motor cogs. Getting good at this repair as with another car I've done four now. CD changer in dash. DVD changer in boot. Hood (bonnet) release cables (twice in 3 years). Rear brake lines (go over the diff) what a bugger that was. Auto-box - so much for lifetime fluid! Try every 70,000 miles. All the bolts in the engine bay and trim screws are sherardized and rust. Usually 10 fixings to secure something and four different types. Burning oil = valve seals, well, it's been to the moon! Steering rack bearing wear. Gunge in the washer bottle. B-pillar module. Engine oil level monitoring system. Everything malfunction, restart, engine and ABS malfunction, restart, engine malfunction. So something wrong with the windows then! No the engine is lumpy, it's the engine really. Oh! for the love of cars! Will this thing ever run for more than three weeks without something going wrong?

[@gloglo1275]

The only line I like of bmw if the M series. I am the proud owner of a e46 m3. What a thrill.

[@minoxidilexpress6010]

In the UK Autotrader, there are more BMW for sale in the used sections than Ford that say's it all.

[@billwilliams8397]

Tell us more Mr. Obvious. Has the whole world gone stupid.

[@chrisgault87]

@@billwilliams8397 oh your that guy

[@andrewdouglasingram]

I've owned two BMWs and a Mercedes. Service ran into the thousands of dollars per year. Now I own a Prius. It costs around $60 per year, excluding tires, for a synthetic oil change. I invest the savings into first class air travel.

[@ECPP]

Thanks for sharing. Last time I got into a Toyota Corolla I started to feel my n-ts twist and bind.

[@redshark9537]

I bought a used BMW when I was young. It broke all the time. Years later my now ex-wife just had to have a BMW. I tried my best to convince her to get a Toyota, but she never ever listened to me. Her BMW broke all the time. It was cheaply made. However, it was not to cheap to maintain. BMW is the Ultimate Driving You to the Poorhouse Machine.

[@AccordionJoe1]

Many years ago, I bought a used Mercedes 560SL. I took it in for a tuneup and was handed a bill for $2,000. I sold the car and bought a Corvette. German cars are all way overpriced and the dealers charge two to three times the price for similar work on an American or Japanese car.

[@dbdigital5880]

Thanks for the input I was considering to buy a used bmw I might pass

[@makatkplt]

2000 MRoadster and loved it. Sold it to buy a boat and start a new chapter. I buy all my cars at least five years old and/or 50,000 miles to keep the price down to save for maintenance.

[@ECPP]

That has also generally been my approach. Diy ing is king with these cars as they get older.

[@kalleklp7291]

"Endless money pits as they age" Scotty Kilmer Indeed they are, some of the models have problems with the engine and/or transmission and then it gets really ugly for one's wallet. Fancy marble floors and shit like that don't impress me! I'm impressed when the mechanics do a good job for a decent amount of money.

[@ECPP]

Totally agree. Cheers

[@jamesjames3525]

Good Old Scotty,, Quote: It couldn't get out of each own way. Unquote. Funny man, great simple, no thrills,mechanic. 😅😉👍

[@divs4819]

I love my lexus 2008 Es 350 116k miles. I bought it with 66k miles i swear it still drives like when I first bought it 5 years ago. My next lex will be the Big Boy LX 460. You can keep your BM

[@johncrowe7356]

On my third Lexus forget the German money pits. $1100 for a BMW headlight 17 years ago

[@Tigrebleau1]

Loved BMWs until I owned 3 of them - all low mileage used. The first (318 convertible) needed a new trans after 50K miles (the trans are made by Hyundai and there is no repair - you must replace - for $3500 at that time). The second (325 X) had major oil leaks by 80K. The third (325 convertible) started using oil at the rate of 1 qt every 100 miles at about 90K. No leaks, no smoke, just no oil - weird. Plus, nearly every time I went in for routine service at the dealer it was about $1000. No more BMWs.

[@whitecrowuk575]

Or don’t get 2 liter versions. They don’t have best reputation. Get inline 6 and you won’t regret it. One of the best in class

[@elECpodcast]

Hi Man! great videos, I am on the market and a 2015 528i caught my attention for a very REASONABLE price, what should I look for?? it has 100K miles on it

[@ECPP]

Timing chain noise and updates on the tensioner/guide hardware updates? Oil service history and issues with oil filter housings and coolant leak potential.

[@elECpodcast]

@@ECPP hey thanks for replying! Although after watching many of ur videos I am not sure anymore if I want to go down the path of a used BMW XD I used to drive one a few years ago, excellent cars, until they're not haha

[@GRSEMETROMALL]

$1,000 plus every time. I don't care if you don't go to the dealer. People think minis are inexpensive, they are not. I refreshed my suspension and the number came out to be $3,100. A refresh suspension on an 10-year-old base model mini Clubman with 118,000 mi on it. I drive that car a little bit like a maniac. I hope it can make it to 200,000 to make the 3100 worth it. I paid $8,000 for it two years ago and promptly put $2,000 into it immediately. So now I'm 13, 000 for 38,000 mi trying to get it to 200,000 and I won't stop driving it like a maniac. 121 naturally aspirated hp, because I damn sure wasn't buying the turbo. So slow is going backwards. I also have a 2006 mini that I brought the same year for the same kind of money that I won't even begin to tell you how much money I put into it since I've had it. Yeah, I will, $12,000. Supercharger blew replace that with the rebuilt one. I think that was $3,000 because some other things had to be repaired. The rebuilt one blew and had that replaced under warranty, but the engine blew in 21 mi because The warranty supercharger wouldn't spin the water pump. So I decided to put a revolution many work engine in it for $11, 000. My math is off, 24,000 dollars and I still don't have the damn car. I'm getting kind of mad 😡 now that I'm thinking about it

[@yerpster]

Gti/golf ftw

[@ericrombouts7698]

Buy a window omechanism

[@NeverTalkToCops1]

So, basically $100,000 and counting...

[@catpavel4359]

That thing is so ugly and you paying so much ?!?!??? I at least enjoy their flagship E-38 and E-39 M for those prices lol

[@GRSEMETROMALL]

@@NeverTalkToCops1 basically. 🤣

[@baileydisanza1559]

it definitely seems like most of you think you can afford a bmw while working a minimum wage job

[@meabob]

Not even twice minimum wage earner can afford a Beemer.

[@Mark-nova]

Volvo's also depreciate more than most cars. I bought one new and had it for 12 years. Literally the only vehicle that I've ever owned that went to essentially $0 LOL. The last few years I had it, essentially it was a money pit. Repairs were a fortune and not many secondary market mechanics that would work on them. Same thing as BMW's in that no one wants the headache of maintenance costs of an ageing euro car. However if you get a great deal on a used one, then the stack of cash you save can go towards future repairs. Another thing to do is try and score a brand new car for $15k under MSRP. That's what I did on my Volvo S80. But it's MSRP was in the mid $40k range years ago, so maybe the game has changed since then on these euro imports.

[@whitecrowuk575]

They depreciate as they are seriously unreliable when it comes to engines.

[@SunKing968]

Interesting video with some good points. In 2017 I bought a used 2014 F34 325d GT (not sure if they sell that in N.A.), which is a 4 cylinder turbodiesel. It had a bit more mileage than I wanted (around 116K kilometres) and maintenance was also not up to my standard, but the price was compelling enough. Years later the car now has 228K kilometres on it and has been about as reliable as a Toyota Camry- just fluid changes, brake pads/discs etc. It's had two factory recalls for design defects, but that's not at my cost

[@georgedaiton847]

Plastics under the hood Electronics, over engineering Exorbitant maintenance and repair costs Truth said at 6:06 As scotty also say

[@tylercouture216]

Hey I just bought a e60 m5 with 43k miles on it and it is kept in absolute tip top condition everywhere I go people stop me tell me beautiful car it comes with every feature except access plus and soft close doors its black sapphire metallic like yours right ? Mine is an SMG I love feeling it gives you I would have gotten a manual if the miles were low enough are you done doing videos on them i was thinking of show casing mine in videos

[@ECPP]

Great buy and congrats. These cars are spectacular and can’t help but feel that they will be much more appreciated in the future, and yes mine is also sapphire metallic. Cheerz

[@caesarguzman5831]

I would sell that before it reaches 60k miles

[@kevinclark1482]

I just hope you have a 2009-2010 model so you won’t endure the 1st gen SMG troubles.

[@patricksantana3337]

Recently bought a 2016 535XI with 36K miles for 27.5K. Original sticker was 63K. Sweet car with loads of features. Had new tires and brakes so the depreciation worked in my favor and I have the car I always wanted. So far, so good.

[@JM-qn3tf]

How long do you plan on keeping it

[@patricksantana3337]

@@kevinh5349 I'll take my chances. I bought a new 3 series before and never had any problems. I know fully well what BMW repairs cost ( I have been in the automotive business my whole life) and I calculated that when I made my decision. But, thanks for the encouragement!

[@mycatsballs8195]

@@patricksantana3337 how has the car been?

[@ExpF]

You forgot to mention one other BIG reason why people stay away from used BMWs. BMWs don't have the same reliability as other makers. I know this from my own experience. It drives well when it's newer and all the sudden starts falling apart. I would say 5 yrs is the threshold.

[@chrismountbatton5260]

Thank you for this video. As a German I used to think BMWs are great and one of my first cars was a Z3. It was used and dirt cheap. These days I would never buy a BMW. Ever. And it‘s for all the reasons you mention in the video. Spot on!

[@anonobot3333]

They aren’t a mechanics car lol 😂

[@dimas-]

What car will you recommend then?

[@lukazupie7220]

@@dimas- i wonder too. Seems like all europeans have problems. Lexus is damn ugly and also so rare here that it scares me a bit... (i have very rare VW golf on natural gas and it doesn't work for more than a year, been to like 5 garages, nobody fixes it properly, always comes back (no power..)). Maybe Mercedes, previous e class (w212?) is supposed to be quite reliable.. but it is just to big for me.

[@walkerb1734]

I’ve had great experiences with my BMW’s (owned 2). My current is a 10 year old 535 with 150,000 miles on it. Still runs beautifully and has given me little trouble. Big fan!

[@stevenreid4183]

Never had a problem with a bmw.i have had 7...runs as well as u take care of it

[@GabrielHadarean]

I had 740i 2016 brand new. I drove the car : 3 years 150.000 miles. Once I passed 125k everything went wrong and no warranty. Theses new ones are all plastic under the hood. Air suspension is expensive to repair and I did 2 front and one back. Add to that the compressor. All these new ones are junk

[@shawngriggs9062]

I’ve owned (not leased) three BMW 740is (2013, 2018, and just took delivery of my 2021 in March). Before switching to BMW, I drove a Lexus ES 350 and a Lexus GS 350. I have always been very meticulous with the maintenance of all my vehicles over the years. Bottomline BMWs are not for everyone and should not be a “daily driver” unless you can afford the maintenance once it’s out of warranty. No other manufacture can match the mixture of performance, luxury, and technology of BMW vehicles. I HATED both of my Lexus vehicles after only a few months. They were just tricked up Toyotas! I had a 2003 Cadillac Escalade that I drove for 10 years with over 250K trouble-free miles! I doubt my current BMW will match this, but I’m okay with it. Most of the people spewing all the negativity about BMW have never owned one and if they have it was used and not properly maintained! One of my neighbors, also a Bimmer guy, has two BMW 5 series (a 2008 and a 2015) both over 70K miles. They look and run superb! I can only judge BMW my experience. I never want another Asian brand in my garage!

[@dcgregorya5434]

@@GabrielHadarean exactly. Idc how often you change the oil, having water pumps silently fail at 60k or 80k miles overheating and damaging your engine is unacceptable. I've had numerous cars where they've lasted to 200k or more until the engine was done...and always squeal and make noise before giving out. Bmw needs to care a bit more about the longevity of their cars...they cost enough they should last. People here bragging about their reliability to 70k come on...70k is nothing. A well made vehicle is getting to 150k without any major repairs and retires at 250k or more. This planned failure stuff is just you getting ripped off.

[@RustyDice]

The technical complexity is the enemy of the used car buyer. The more complex, the sooner the used car will reach a stage of being beyond economic repair than simpler cars of past generations. Might we reach a tipping point where super complex, zero tail pipe emission cars are economically junking themselves at an age where there is scarcity in the used car market, or even a reticence in buyers to take on a risky investment? You read my mind with this video - And the finance interest discussion is superb.

[@ECPP]

Thank you very much and I appreciate your comment. Have an awesome day.

[@rekzuh]

I just bought a used 2013 535i M Sport for good money coming from owning 2 WRX's and I can safely say this BMW has me feeling some sort of way each time I get in it. I didn't get it for speed even though it's got plenty of power for my taste but it's absolutely luxurious and ahead of its time, the sound system and entertainment system is great, it looks slick and the F10 model looks like it could pass for a 2016+. If you have the money to take care of them, they're something special.

[@ECPP]

Thanks for sharing Nick. They definitely feel great from the drivers seat. The n55 is a reasonable engine and more durable than the V8 in that car. Good choice and agree, maintenance is critical and don’t let stuff slide.

[@ultron5622]

5 minutes after this video he was escorted outta the parking lot.

[@elkarlos814]

Since he's white, the pOlice were involved.

[@arealgem9404]

🤣 Security guard came over : *HEY MAN I TOLD YOU YOU CANT KEEP COMING ON THE LOT AND RECORDING YOUR LITTLE VIDEOS NEXT TIME IM SICKIN THE DOG ON YOU*

[@ultron5622]

He yelled "rape!!!" When the security guards touched him...

[@chesspro22k64]

@@ultron5622 lol Karen

[@markmnorcal]

Its 5:50 am

[@stephaneduguay7267]

Your tour in the BMW scrap yard was fun, this is what happens when they put insane technology and to much plastic, you get garbage.

[@ECPP]

Cheers

[@stephaneduguay7267]

@@ECPP ☺👍

[@bobjones9600]

@@ECPP too Too Too much plastic.

[@rumrich]

I always had Japanese make cars, never had issues that were expensive. They are easy to work on, plenty of affordable parts and plenty of garages happy to work on them. Basically you are paying for a status symbol when you buy a high end German car nowadays.

[@hkatz7665]

i was told by dealer left front strut leaking and right front strut rotted.......needs replacing....3453.00 and alignment 250....how can I confirm ?...thanks in advance

[@ECPP]

Ouch. Maybe a second opinion

[@rolandbaron5813]

I think the 90's bmw's are more solid build in terms of exterior. Less plastic.