Why Vegetable-Tanned Leather Is So Expensive | So Expensive

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@johnl.7754
@johnl.7754 3 жыл бұрын
At first I thought it was about a Vegetable made Leather 😀
@abhishekchoudhary1846
@abhishekchoudhary1846 3 жыл бұрын
Same 😂
@hunterhussain809
@hunterhussain809 3 жыл бұрын
You mean vegan leather?
@larsstougaard7097
@larsstougaard7097 3 жыл бұрын
Me too, I want a video about that, give us 🍓🍄🥝🥭🍍🥬🥦🫑 leather
@parkersears1478
@parkersears1478 3 жыл бұрын
Seriously, I wanted to see vegan leather, thought this was 2021 🙃
@Stevieboy7
@Stevieboy7 3 жыл бұрын
@@hunterhussain809 "vegan leather" is new marketing for polyurethane plastic fabric.
@nomorok15
@nomorok15 3 жыл бұрын
I have a over 100 years old doctors bag that my fiances Italian greatgrandma gave me and the leather on it looks incomparable to every other leather item I have ever seen
@insectbite1714
@insectbite1714 3 жыл бұрын
You are not a snowflake because you live in Italy, the world's worst country.
@nomorok15
@nomorok15 3 жыл бұрын
@@insectbite1714 dude im German read through it again
@APAstronaut333
@APAstronaut333 3 жыл бұрын
It is Italian. Lucky you my friend
@marialindell9874
@marialindell9874 3 жыл бұрын
Please research what types of leather products (like soap and oiling/moisturising) you might need! Taking care of the leather well will give it years more of age and use. For example with saddles, we need to take care of them because the stirrups can scratch the ontop of the use. A saddle can ve very expensive. You need that saddle to last. Same with leather boots ect.
@nomorok15
@nomorok15 3 жыл бұрын
@@marialindell9874 I am lucky enough to have a really good leather workshop in my general area so if anything I just do what the guys there tell me to when it comes to anything that I own made out of real leather
@kevinfield2162
@kevinfield2162 3 жыл бұрын
Leatherworker here. There is a vast difference in the quality between veg tan and chrome tan. The problem is that because chrome tan is so damned cheap it's very difficult to explain to the masses why your leather wallet you made to sell costs so much. They want it as a rock bottom price which doesn't even cover the leather let alone the time investment. I totally feel for leatherworkers trying to make a living. I just do it as a hobby.
@AlexanderMason1
@AlexanderMason1 2 жыл бұрын
You don’t seem to know as much as you think you do. Some of the nicest leathers out there are chrome tanned. The cheapest leather will usually be chrome tanned because it is cheaper to do but you have very high end chrome tanned leather as well. It is also stronger than vegetable tanned leather, has the potential to be softer than veg tan and is far more resistant to water and weather. They all have their uses but the best chrome tanned leather out there is way better than cheaper veg tanned leather. Naturally, because vegetable tanning lather costs more, you’re generally going to avoid making a cheaper product as a manufacturer. That being sad you have low-and vegetable tan lather it’s just like you have high-end chrome tan leather. It all depends on the finishing as well as the tanning.
@clipdump
@clipdump Жыл бұрын
​@@AlexanderMason1 I've seen some dreadful veg tan stuff. it's just not as consistent. But when it's at its best a chrome tan leather can't really come close. Chrome tan is incredibly useful though. We should just be glad that those hides are being put to use
@zitronentee
@zitronentee Жыл бұрын
@@AlexanderMason1 It really depends on the recipe. Not all vegetable tanning agent are the same. To make softer vegetable tanned leather, you may need more certain fatliquor and technique. Chrome tanned leather has the advantage of being cheap and can have brighter, colorful color compared to vegetable tanned ones. Chrome applied usually is just 6% of dry weight at max. Vegetable tanning agent, depending on the recipe, may take 10-25% and longer time to soak. Note that due to chrome tanned leather being cheap, many use it for patent leather, in which the raw material with low quality can be used. The most obvious is LV bags, that already lose its leather characteristics. And yes, LV is the low tier of luxurious brand. Meanwhile, vegetable tanned leather usually for natural look leather, so it need higher quality raw material (and pricier). But you have to consider the environmental issues right now. The leather industry is currently lowering chrome usage since it's heavy metal. And that includes lowering synthetic tanning agent like Bisphenols.
@joshm3484
@joshm3484 Жыл бұрын
When comparing the same type of hide, chrome-tanned leather typically offers a softer texture, better water and stain resistance, more vibrant (albeit less deep) color options, increased heat resistance, less maintenance, superior tear resistance, and it's generally more cost-effective. However, it's essential to note that just because chrome-tanned leather is often used in cheaper products doesn't make it inferior. Many mistake its affordability for low quality, but renowned producers like Horween would beg to differ. While chrome-tanned leather has its advantages, it's distinct in appearance and has environmental implications. Now, when it comes to meticulous leather craftsmanship, vegetable-tanned leather might have an edge due to its rigidity, making it more manageable for detailed tasks like cutting, skiving, stamping, and stitching. While chrome-tanned leather can be equally stunning, veg-tan has a truly unique aesthetic. Additionally, vegetable-tanned leather's reduced elasticity makes it my preferred choice for items like belts.
@2076273
@2076273 10 ай бұрын
Your comment made me believe that you know nothing about leather.
@dawsie
@dawsie 3 жыл бұрын
😳after watching this I finally decided that regardless of the price this will be the leather of my choice, I loved how the colours become warmer with age. Thank you for making this film it really did help with my personal debate I had been having with myself originally over the cost when I had been sourcing leather for a project. It might cost more up front but now I see that over it’s life once turned into something the natural way of tanning will help ensure my project will age gracefully 😊😊
@dkelker1
@dkelker1 3 жыл бұрын
I love veg tan too. I ssid i would never dye myself buti loveto dye natural veg tan. I mostly make handbags
@loadedpainted7040
@loadedpainted7040 3 жыл бұрын
oh yeah Ive never bought chrome tanned leather for my projects (mostly belts) its much more customizable and ages way better its also stiffer and more durable in some ways
@J0E..
@J0E.. 3 жыл бұрын
Imagine the smells in that place
@mangar3147
@mangar3147 3 жыл бұрын
Probably smells like a new car
@originalketchup7498
@originalketchup7498 3 жыл бұрын
Bad... it smells bad
@SarahHogan100
@SarahHogan100 3 жыл бұрын
it actually smells good
@o-6877
@o-6877 3 жыл бұрын
Those labor workers in the factory... wow
@mcope9233
@mcope9233 3 жыл бұрын
Tanned leather smells pretty good, and the fact that they preserve the hides in salt before tanning them would probably mean it smells decent
@marwansal4175
@marwansal4175 3 жыл бұрын
Love it when Italians try explaining their craftsmanship. So passionate about everything.❤
@minty_macaron
@minty_macaron 3 жыл бұрын
I genuinely thought it was made out of vegetables-
@larsstougaard7097
@larsstougaard7097 3 жыл бұрын
😊❤🍄🥦🥬🫑
@GraniteInTheFace
@GraniteInTheFace 3 жыл бұрын
This is why fabric no longer matters. We can make cotton look like leather these days and we do. It's all about marketing. It's also because of marketing that people are focusing on mushroom leather these days.
@larsstougaard7097
@larsstougaard7097 3 жыл бұрын
@@GraniteInTheFace wise words, I want to see and feel this magic mushroom leather you speak about 🍄
@ryanmcewen415
@ryanmcewen415 3 жыл бұрын
@@GraniteInTheFace not really. I work in the leather industry. All those processes used to make other things look like leather are all highly toxic polyurethane finishes. Even mushroom, leaf or other Pleather alternatives are all plastisized products.
@danialimran7720
@danialimran7720 3 жыл бұрын
Vegan leathers feels fake. It doesn't feel good compared to real leather
@juanpasala
@juanpasala 3 жыл бұрын
That s one of the best, most accurate, and truest to the craft documentaries I ve ever seen on leather making. Congratulations.
@RIPbiker13
@RIPbiker13 3 жыл бұрын
Veg tan leather is all I use in my leather carving projects. Making wallets, and cases is expensive for just the material going into them. My time isn't even included in that. In the end, this material can be used to make incredible things that last.
@aleksitjvladica.
@aleksitjvladica. 3 жыл бұрын
Also, it is hard, unlike chromed...
@sagesmith8443
@sagesmith8443 2 жыл бұрын
It is also natural
@2076273
@2076273 10 ай бұрын
As a leatherworker my self, the things wrong with this video is mind-boggling....
@js250
@js250 9 ай бұрын
As an exotic leather tanner myself I must say amen to that. The whole narrative is to degrade other types of leather to make it seems veg tanning is so much more expensive, which it is not really.
@mowedi
@mowedi 3 жыл бұрын
Let's all AGREE on this... everything is expensive these days.
@dha588
@dha588 3 жыл бұрын
Everything's expensive in New York.
@Founderschannel123
@Founderschannel123 3 жыл бұрын
@@dha588 laughs in singaporean
@sidehop
@sidehop 3 жыл бұрын
*used
@PG-3462
@PG-3462 3 жыл бұрын
It depends actually. A car or a TV in 2021 is much less expensive than it was 40 years ago
@miragesnworlds
@miragesnworlds 3 жыл бұрын
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@killgora1
@killgora1 2 жыл бұрын
Very interesting. Chrome tanned leather is great for bags, jackets, and furniture, but when it comes to tooled pieces you really wouldn't want anything else other than veg tanned leather. Also chrome tanned leather will assist in steel rusting when it comes to knife sheaths and gun holsters you are going to want veg tan unless you are doing like a kydex one. I'm an armature leather worker. I just make things for fun, or gifts. I love using chrome tanned for things like dice bags, and sometimes costume pieces if I want to try and be ambitious. But when it comes to the occasional time I make a sheath, or holster I will use nothing but veg tanned. At least for any leather that will touch the blade, or metallic parts of a firearm.
@keithad6485
@keithad6485 Ай бұрын
I have been using Italian double butt veg tan leather for several years for making solid cowhide leather waist belts and am very happy with the quality and function. Though always do my own selecting as the quality can vary. An old and proven way of selecting higher strength leather even within a single hide or side of leather is to bend the leather and look at the flesh side of the leather. The more coarse the wrinkles on the inside of the bend, the less strength.The finer the wrinkles, the stronger the leather. From a saddler maker.
@ianking-w6f
@ianking-w6f Жыл бұрын
Saddler here, my hand stitching will outlast any machine stitch ! Old Ways Are Good Ways ! !
@coldwarrior3794
@coldwarrior3794 3 жыл бұрын
Veg tan ages well too. It will develop a beautiful patina with use and if properly cared for will last generations. Buy from quality manufacturers like Corter leather over LV or Hermès and you will have a beautiful one time purchase as opposed to a mediocre purchase you’ll need to make every 5-10 years.
@ethanmullett4128
@ethanmullett4128 3 жыл бұрын
it just seams like the craftsmanship is italy and japan is unmatched
@YY-ug9mv
@YY-ug9mv 3 жыл бұрын
Italy is just advertisement,they make them in Turkey,later put their brands on it.
@bngr_bngr
@bngr_bngr 3 жыл бұрын
Fenasi Kerim thats not true. Artisans in Florence hand make their products. Only the open tourist markets goods are probably from Chinese factories north of Florence.
@YY-ug9mv
@YY-ug9mv 3 жыл бұрын
I don't know about authentic local family shops but big brands are just advertisement ....In an article published by the New York Times in 2007, Gucci is, unfortunately, one of the big companies that have their goods manufactured by illegal Chinese laborers in Italy. These products are made down in the Tuscan town of Prato, located outside Florence. What you may not know is that Prato is the leading center for the production of leather goods by and for the top luxury brands. As a result and with the information about the use of illegal Chinese for labor, Prato boasts the second-largest Chinese population across Europe.
@bngr_bngr
@bngr_bngr 3 жыл бұрын
Fenasi Kerim thats why covid first came to Italy from China.
@thomasburke7995
@thomasburke7995 3 жыл бұрын
No some of the best craftsman are actually located in the United States and the UK.. what you are seeing here is methods of producing that someone does not want let die for financial reason or culture.. it's not better it's just different.
@houdinous520
@houdinous520 3 жыл бұрын
This background music had my pinky in the air the entire time. Fancy yes
@kburdy
@kburdy 3 жыл бұрын
We just started selling Veg-Leather where I work & this was VERY insightful on the process and how it’s different - THANK YOU !
@clown454
@clown454 2 жыл бұрын
this has to be one of the few products on this channel where the price is justified
@monchelato.cesare
@monchelato.cesare 3 жыл бұрын
I work in Arzignano’s (Vicenza, Veneto) leather district. It’s quiet bigger than Santa Croce’s(Tuscany) district. In Arzignano I tan with Chrome and GDA (glutaraldehyde) every day, and I can say that this type of leathers are very different in features than vegetables tan. There is very good Chrome tanned leather and bad chrome tanned leather. With chrome and GDA the story is different than Vegetables tan, usually the industries make, from raw hides to wet blue or wet white, a standard product. The main features of the final product are made with re-tanning, neutralization, fat liquoring and drying methods. For example is used to add in re-tanning vegetables tannin or synthetic tannin to Chrome leather to emulate the Tuscany ones, this is made a lot for shoes leather. An important step is the finishing of the leather and this is another world. I hate when I hear “vegetables leather are the best in the world”, yes they have an unique look and they are amazing, but I wake up at 4 a.m every day to tan hides, and I work for 9 hours a day. I stay all the day near the drums to check pH every hour, to check that the all process is going fine, I give to the hides all my attentions. It’s a passion after all. Also in chrome and GDA leather there is hard work, passion and love for the product.
@juanpasala
@juanpasala 3 жыл бұрын
Ancha massa!
@LizzettDaviZz
@LizzettDaviZz 2 жыл бұрын
How about waking up at 4 am to make a bigger difference in the world other than using flesh from an animal to make product 🤦🏽‍♀️🤷🏽‍♀️ Or better yet make a business of your own 🤭🤔
@Hattonbank
@Hattonbank 2 жыл бұрын
@@LizzettDaviZz I am sure that he does a far more useful and productive job than you do.
@LizzettDaviZz
@LizzettDaviZz 2 жыл бұрын
@@Hattonbank funny you mention that not knowing anything about me. Let me fill you in a bit. I own and operate 2 businesses working on a third while also taking care of my family kids husband whole shabang, and guess what no animals are harmed in the process 🫠🙃😉 Also all products are natural. Good day to you Bernard if that’s really your name. There’s no need to troll this is KZbin I’m entitled to my opinion on things I have researched about. You have no idea who I am or what my life is about so to go in like that is truly unnecessary, but go on if you must that was just a little about me if you knew all about me I’m sure you would of never commented that or maybe you may have being that’s what trolls do, but I don’t know you like that so I can’t factually say that 🤪
@zitronentee
@zitronentee Жыл бұрын
I think you need better recipe.
@FlaxeMusic
@FlaxeMusic 3 жыл бұрын
"this large wood rotating vessel, known as a drum" no way, you're pulling my leg
@gunsmithfiamma4788
@gunsmithfiamma4788 Жыл бұрын
That's not even the real name of the machine. It's called "Bottale". That you can literally translate in English as "Very large barrel".
@JudgeDredd_
@JudgeDredd_ 3 жыл бұрын
I need the fastest Pershing Yacht and I want my entire interior outlined in vegetable leather. Lights and darks.
@Losttoanyreason
@Losttoanyreason 3 жыл бұрын
Any tannic vegetable matter can be used to make vegetable-tanned leather. Oak leaves are good. Swamps work for curing as well.
@keithad6485
@keithad6485 Ай бұрын
There is still one tannery in England who still use Oak bark for tanning. Bakers at Cobbaton Devon. The manager told me during a visit that there has been a tannery on that site since Roman times!
@stocktonjoans
@stocktonjoans 3 жыл бұрын
I've got a veg tan belt i've had for over half my life, the buckle wore out before the leather did
@keithad6485
@keithad6485 Ай бұрын
Saddler here. When buying a belt, ask for a solid brass, solid german silver, or solid stainless steel buckle, this will make sure the buckle outlasts the strap. Such buckles will last centuries! My own person belt, has a brass buckle which is about 110 years old and is still as good as the day it was made in WW1. I don't use electroplated die cast buckles, which are typically made from zamak, a zinc based alloy. Some will last but there is no way to be sure, so I stick with what is tried and time proven - brass, german silver, stainless steel etc. I only use these metals. That's my two cents worth. take it or leave it.
@rawbacon
@rawbacon 3 жыл бұрын
The Cow is the Perfect Machine providing Dairy, Meat, Leather and Fertilizer.
@firstnamelastlame8081
@firstnamelastlame8081 3 жыл бұрын
And greenhouse gasses unfortunately
@MythSpeed
@MythSpeed 3 жыл бұрын
@@firstnamelastlame8081 doesnt all machine or activity in itself cause some sort of harm
@Hattonbank
@Hattonbank 3 жыл бұрын
Correct.And parts of it go into pharmaceuticals, beauty products, confectionery, lubricants, pet food. Even the blood is used, but I cannot remember what for, but if you want to know I will find out for you.
@josephgagne4520
@josephgagne4520 2 жыл бұрын
@@firstnamelastlame8081 methane is captured by all farmers.
@Pythonzzz
@Pythonzzz 3 ай бұрын
@@josephgagne4520No, it’s not. That’s not even possible.
@deltalubelubricantsindones999
@deltalubelubricantsindones999 3 жыл бұрын
Large wooden rotating vessel called DRUM. Thank you.
@watchspotting
@watchspotting 3 жыл бұрын
My brain: It's 3 AM and we have school tomorrow Me: Hmm I wonder how vegetable-tanned leather is made
@capitainsheep1137
@capitainsheep1137 3 ай бұрын
Pov : me rn
@binaryglitch64
@binaryglitch64 2 жыл бұрын
Solution ... go hunting, source your own leather, tan it yourself, and then craft with it... from forest to back pocket, I protected my wallet by being the one doing everything involved in making it. EVERYTHING. Problem solved. Fancy custome wallet... total monetary price including tanning equipment ... $0.00 (USD). Total real (intrinsic) cost... the life of a six point buck and a rabbit, several hours hunting and processing the animals and my time whenever anti-leather people see my leather goods... I've spent countless minutes trying to get out of conversations and/or ignoring people... look, you can get all self righteous on most people about their leather but I felt the warm blood from all my leather... I know the real cost first hand so I don't want to hear it from someone who doesn't _know_ it but they understand it conceptually and want to push their ethics on me.
@tombaily29
@tombaily29 10 ай бұрын
The "problem" with vegetable tanned leather is people want their leather products to look the same forever.
@temptemp4174
@temptemp4174 Жыл бұрын
Theres a reason people brag about "itallian leather" its in a league of its own
@GraniteInTheFace
@GraniteInTheFace 3 жыл бұрын
Chrome tan comes out supple out of the shop. Veg tan is not inherently better or worse than chrome tan. It's just suited for different products.
@zacwoods
@zacwoods 3 жыл бұрын
Horrendous comment😂😂
@Hattonbank
@Hattonbank 2 жыл бұрын
@@zacwoods No it is not, Cr is correct. Will you find veg tan leather in a Rolls Royce, certainly not, it will be chrome tanned.
@jackiecapita2363
@jackiecapita2363 3 жыл бұрын
Love that Purcell’s Dido and Aeneas “Thy Hand Belinda” features in this video 👌🏻
@UriValdez
@UriValdez 3 жыл бұрын
I enjoy working with all kinds of leather but veg tan its just a fine piece of craft that will out live you!
@jonahthrane812
@jonahthrane812 3 жыл бұрын
I like that they aren't killing the animal for the leather, rather it's more so using every single part of the animal.
@Luisa-pf9ss
@Luisa-pf9ss 3 жыл бұрын
nowadays cows and other animals are also killed For the leather.
@Hattonbank
@Hattonbank 3 жыл бұрын
@@Luisa-pf9ss Never! Cattle reared for beef will fetch about $2000 or more at market. After processing all of the meat, intestines, fat, vblood and leather, it is worth over $3500. Of this amount, the abattoir gets $50-70 for the whole hide. So your argument that they are killed for their hide is totally wrong, they are reared and slaughtered for the meat. Only an idiot would spend years raising animals just for $50 a head!
@Luisa-pf9ss
@Luisa-pf9ss 3 жыл бұрын
​@@Hattonbank This is what was said in the documentary Dominion. Your description makes me very frustrated and sad, i hope we stop treating animals as products or food soon. I have so much empathy for every cow that is born into this torture industry. :(
@samantarizzi248
@samantarizzi248 Жыл бұрын
Super informative! Thank you! I just bought a Bayswater bag by Mulberry😊 It’s a Legacy Natural Vegetable Tanned leather bag in the colour Oak and I love it so much.
@sladewilson9273
@sladewilson9273 3 жыл бұрын
Didn't mention the most common source from my understanding is oak bark for tannings agent.
@Rice8003
@Rice8003 3 жыл бұрын
Those leather bags and chair looks so good. Like I don't know of it's the dye as well, but it definitely looks supple. This might be the first So expensive product that I genuinely want.
@hyssean12
@hyssean12 3 жыл бұрын
Google natural veg tan patina. It starts off a light pinkish skin color. But over time will darken and shine up substantially.
@Sean-me4fv
@Sean-me4fv 3 жыл бұрын
I love my Louis Vuitton vachetta leather wallets. And yes they ARE worth the extra cost, and NO it is not for the brand or logo. The quality is incredible.
@AMogus-jr6qk
@AMogus-jr6qk 2 жыл бұрын
Cheaper wallets exist with the same leather
@Sean-me4fv
@Sean-me4fv 2 жыл бұрын
@@AMogus-jr6qk please let me know where so I can purchase one
@AmedaHolmes
@AmedaHolmes 11 ай бұрын
I am a leather worker and carver. Only veg-tan can be tooled.
@philipp594
@philipp594 3 жыл бұрын
Horween in the U.S. also does vegetable tanned leather. Their famous horseleather called "shell cordovan" is vegetable tanned.
@daau9900
@daau9900 5 ай бұрын
I brought a leather belt, on box it was written veg tanned, I thought it was vegetable leather, got mad at myself, felt cheated by company, started searching and watching this video I'm satisfied it's just a term. 100$ dollar
@keithad6485
@keithad6485 Ай бұрын
I am a saddlemaker and the only way a customer is guaranteed of buying a hi quality, solid cowhide leather belt is to buy from a saddlemaker. Saddlers take pride in their work, and will not have crap leather in their shops. Saddlers rely on word of mouth advertising more that we realise and cos of this, make sure any leather product they provide is high quality. A good quality and well made veg tan leather belt should provide at least twenty years service.
@crissysmart
@crissysmart 3 жыл бұрын
I really enjoy this series. Very informative!
@emilysanders2575
@emilysanders2575 3 жыл бұрын
I think the price of the shoes was more due to the cordwainers hard work... I can buy a full hide of veg tanned leather for about £120
@stuartcommon4651
@stuartcommon4651 3 жыл бұрын
True, depends on what leathers used though, a nice J&JF Baker oak tanned sole leather with a cordovan upper would cost more in leather than a £120 veg tan hide
@glidingwaves5210
@glidingwaves5210 3 жыл бұрын
New season is ON... Very excited 😁
@chinmayeepradhan277
@chinmayeepradhan277 3 жыл бұрын
Now I know why my vegetable tan leather roll is soooooooo expensive
@merikmalhads1676
@merikmalhads1676 Жыл бұрын
As a biochemist, this look into tanning actually looks more like a primitive plastic construction then anything else. Since the tannins tend to be benzene rings with alcohol or OH groups on the ends which the collagen will bind to which is also what most early plastic monomers were. The big difference between plastics and leather is that plastics often polymerize an entirely new physical network while the tannins in the leather are binding to a pre-existing physical mesh. In that way, I guess fiber glass could be considered a type of leather as it essentially has plastic-forming monomers branch and bind together multiple layers of pre-existing paper sheets kind of similarly to the way those monomers would like sheets of, or I guess threads because collagen forms into strings/threads, collagen to form leather
@keithad6485
@keithad6485 Ай бұрын
Been a saddle maker for 40 years and never had this process explained in the way you have. Thank you.
@amineassaf7238
@amineassaf7238 3 жыл бұрын
in morocco, we have high-quality leather 100 % natural after a lot of steps...
@keithad6485
@keithad6485 Ай бұрын
I have seen some beautiful Moroccan leather. From a saddle maker.
@amineassaf7238
@amineassaf7238 Ай бұрын
@keithad6485 yeah if you come here you will have a big chance to see rare hand made products
@keithad6485
@keithad6485 Ай бұрын
@@amineassaf7238 Thanks for your reply. I am based in Australia. Do you have a website I can view the products you mention, i would be interested in importing interesting items to offer my customers.
@1hughjanus80
@1hughjanus80 3 жыл бұрын
I now have so much Respect for leather Something i was lacking
@zachmcphearson890
@zachmcphearson890 3 жыл бұрын
Leathercrafter here! Haven’t even gone through the intro without hearing inaccuracies so please consider these videos as for entertainment purposes only not educational.
@user-rv9um5xc3r
@user-rv9um5xc3r 3 жыл бұрын
Why don't you correct them, instead of just being an asshole?
@MiKi-sx3tt
@MiKi-sx3tt 3 жыл бұрын
What part they do wrong?
@zachmcphearson890
@zachmcphearson890 3 жыл бұрын
@@user-rv9um5xc3r I’m sorry if you think of me as an asshole for saying that it’s better to think of this channel as an entertainment outlet. I just didn’t feel like unpacking the entire video. I hope your doing ok.
@zachmcphearson890
@zachmcphearson890 3 жыл бұрын
@@user-rv9um5xc3r and correcting them will not affect anything :)
@user-rv9um5xc3r
@user-rv9um5xc3r 3 жыл бұрын
@@zachmcphearson890 But whining about it will?
@rsr789
@rsr789 5 ай бұрын
Offenbach's Barcarolle, nice choice for the intro music. 👍
@androaccount1860
@androaccount1860 3 жыл бұрын
I bought bag of veg tanned leather for my wife. It's really soft and beautiful. It's expensive but worth it
@alparslankorkmaz2964
@alparslankorkmaz2964 3 жыл бұрын
Nice video.
@shruti1980
@shruti1980 3 жыл бұрын
i thought they made leather out of vegetables
@APAstronaut333
@APAstronaut333 3 жыл бұрын
They made leather out of literal shit
@MelonMafia1
@MelonMafia1 3 жыл бұрын
@@APAstronaut333 Yeah, and? It probably still looks way better then any vegan leather
@Hattonbank
@Hattonbank 3 жыл бұрын
You can make leather from the hides of animals, mammals, birds and fish. Anything else, whether it is called vegan or faux leather or anything else is not leather.
@emeraldcoastgardensfl7323
@emeraldcoastgardensfl7323 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent series of videos. Thank you for sharing.
@LakshmananLM
@LakshmananLM 3 жыл бұрын
Now, I've just realised the origin of the name Chromepet in Chennai (being once the centre of leather tanning industry in Tamilnadu).
@keithad6485
@keithad6485 Ай бұрын
Making a leather belt from Italian veg tan may be pricey, but I have found that if not subject to abnormal abuse, in normal service, the belt will last at least twenty years so the cost of the leather over this period is negligible. Just that the initial sale price is off putting for some customers, customers who want hi quality belts for the same price as polyurethane or split or bonded leather belts which do not last long. Sometimes only a few weeks!
@제철과일-q9x
@제철과일-q9x 2 жыл бұрын
I just saw Bangladesh - chrome base tanning process. Ha. What a relief and cozy.
@Waldemarvonanhalt
@Waldemarvonanhalt 2 жыл бұрын
While vegetable tanned leather is very often good quality, chrome tanned and leathers tanned using a combination of the two can be just as good. Just look at Horween's famous chromexcel leather.
@RashidMBey
@RashidMBey 3 жыл бұрын
To clarify: vegetable-tanned leather is *not* the same as vegan leather. 😂 Still interesting to watch and learn! Thanks!
@chelseagirl278
@chelseagirl278 3 жыл бұрын
That is what I thought. I would be more interested in that!
@syedqayyum8415
@syedqayyum8415 3 жыл бұрын
Correct! The term Vegan leather (which I think is hilarious) is nothing but synthetic leather made from chemicals (it's polyester/plastic basically) and used very loosely these days - brands are great at marketing and fooling those that are not aware. There are a lot of new raw materials recently that are not harmful and truly vegan in my opinion - cactus, pineapple, etc but I wouldn't call it leather. Not sure how long they last but as a a leather craftsman that uses vegetable tanned leather I can vouch for the quality, longevity and it's reduced environmental impact.
@chelseagirl278
@chelseagirl278 3 жыл бұрын
@@syedqayyum8415 environmental impact? A cow uses up feed, water, land, time and lets not forget the killing of an innocent animal. I will take items made out of vegetables any day than carry around dead animals
@syedqayyum8415
@syedqayyum8415 3 жыл бұрын
@@julm7744 Vegan and leather should not be used together. Just call it faux/synthetic material instead. The environmental impact these synthetic materials have (which contributes to fast fashion) is very deteriorating to the environment, unlike vegetable tanned leather. A bag for example made from vegetable tanned leather will last 3-4 times longer than these synthetic materials. I agree that chemical/chrome tanned leather is no good either (my opinion on this form of leather and the so called "vegan" leather is the same - it's Shite) Also, the term genuine leather is loosely used - it's worst quality of leather you can get. Look up the difference between that and full grain if you're interested. Majority (if not all ) of the tanneries around the get their hides from the meat industry - no one's killing animals just for their skin.
@jlw3306
@jlw3306 3 жыл бұрын
@@chelseagirl278 These cows aren’t killed for their hides, this is just a by-product of the meat industry. Why shouldn’t we utilise as much as possible instead of throwing it away and using plastic for faux leather. Yes there are leather made of plants, but this hasn’t really reached the mass market yet.
@rodderickjames-bp5rp
@rodderickjames-bp5rp Жыл бұрын
Patina... What a wonderful word
@brigada545
@brigada545 3 жыл бұрын
Nothing better than original leather.
@augustinenayagam3840
@augustinenayagam3840 2 жыл бұрын
Noun: bravo (pl. bravos, bravoes) |braa-vow| A murderer (especially one who kills a prominent political figure) who kills by a surprise attack and often is hired to do the deed • his bravos were hunted down like animals = assassin, assassinator A cry of approval as from an audience at the end of great performance Verb: bravo |braa-vow| Applaud with shouts of 'bravo' or 'brava' INTERJECTION: bravo |braa-vow| Exclamation expressive of applause = well done
@yapolloable
@yapolloable 3 жыл бұрын
most luxury brand leather goods are chrome tanned, much cheaper than veg tanned ones.
@Kennylolwins
@Kennylolwins 9 ай бұрын
This is art
@pnwRC.
@pnwRC. 3 жыл бұрын
WOWZERS! 21 days, No wonder it's so EXPENSIVE!
@s000mable
@s000mable Жыл бұрын
I have veg tan handbag it just feels better and smells very nice
@alphaTrader.oo1
@alphaTrader.oo1 3 жыл бұрын
I only use vegetable tanned full grain leather
@JustinDanielPrince
@JustinDanielPrince 3 жыл бұрын
Just like most people. When I read the title, I also thought leather made from vegetables.
@Happyfingcampers
@Happyfingcampers 8 ай бұрын
I would love some of that vegtan! Wow
@cynthiapucheanu34
@cynthiapucheanu34 Жыл бұрын
Very interesting!
@MillionaireMindsetClub
@MillionaireMindsetClub 3 жыл бұрын
Now this is art!
@RXQ003
@RXQ003 3 жыл бұрын
Love my vegetable tanned boots :)
@philosofar
@philosofar Жыл бұрын
Wanted to ask any leather expert here ! What's the best way to look after leather products- mainly furniture, bags and watch straps, please ! TIA !
@VoyagerMaldives
@VoyagerMaldives 3 жыл бұрын
🤌 🇮🇹 this is why it’s so expensive.
@Mesa877
@Mesa877 3 жыл бұрын
I love making leather knife sheets from veg tan leather.
@CuriousTinkering
@CuriousTinkering 3 жыл бұрын
Some say that Demiurge use the same method in making his leather items and scrolls.
@obamayomama8291
@obamayomama8291 3 жыл бұрын
Lmao
@crow9149
@crow9149 3 жыл бұрын
1:34 Gorgeous image, anyone know where I can find it?
@muhammadislam8829
@muhammadislam8829 2 жыл бұрын
Anyone know what the background music is?
@sidjtd
@sidjtd 3 жыл бұрын
Important note to emphasize is that any average person will absolutely choose means New chrome tanned leather over brand new vegetable tan leather unless that vegetable tan leather is extremely fitting to that specific persons personal preference. New vegetable tan doesn’t look better at all. Ours about longevity
@AstroWrLd44
@AstroWrLd44 3 жыл бұрын
I bet it smells really bad but also really good in the factory.
@_iota.7722
@_iota.7722 3 жыл бұрын
Waiting for video " why are Miyazaki mangoes so expensive. | So expensive.
@arnydiablo6205
@arnydiablo6205 3 жыл бұрын
Me toooo!
@GTA-qv8pk
@GTA-qv8pk 3 жыл бұрын
I tell you something this leather this vegetable tan leather is so premium and so expensive even the manufacturers speak in fancy languages I don't understand.
@jlg395
@jlg395 2 жыл бұрын
6:32 What the hell is this guy talking about?
@Matthew17veeran
@Matthew17veeran 2 жыл бұрын
That's a mighty fine couch he's sitting on.
@prayagpomaje
@prayagpomaje 3 жыл бұрын
Capitalist made leather expensive to be honest. Here in India it's very cheap to produce excellent quality leather due to huge number of cows and buffalos. Boots and sandles of pure leather can be made in just 5 or 6 doller max . A normal shoe can last for like decades if it's made from real leather. I have mine been using for like 4 and half years now whenever I polish it shines like new one .
@rawbacon
@rawbacon 3 жыл бұрын
Send me some cheap leather.
@lx95020
@lx95020 11 ай бұрын
Leathersmith here. People get upset if they see marking on their vegetable tanned leather...they expect everything to look like chrome tan (corrected and perfect). Sad that people think genuine leather and softness is a sign of high quality. @brullencompany
@keithad6485
@keithad6485 Ай бұрын
Saddler of many years here. I find with my customers, one the attractions of veg tan leather is the imperfect finish cos it individualises their product. If a comment is made on the imperfect finish, I respond with this is the nature of veg tan and one of the attractions as it makes their belt unique. This is most times enough to overcome the objection. I don't push it though if there is still resistance. From a saddlemaker and belt maker Down Under.
@RoyGNH
@RoyGNH 17 күн бұрын
Just picked up a natural veg tan horsehide Japanese leather jacket done in Kakishibu. Even after spending $$$ for it, ❤I love being able to see imperfections in the leather and already starting to seeing it patina slowly over time. I know there is no other jacket that looks like mine! It will tell my story the longer I own it and that is what it’s all about… one of my bucket list items and the beauty of it is I can pass it on to my grandson someday! Do it once, do it right. Great video!
@keithad6485
@keithad6485 15 күн бұрын
@@RoyGNH Interesting, very interesting, I have been a saddle maker sinve the mid 1980s, and did not know, tanned horse hide was still available. One advantage over cow hid is the straps can be made much longer. Though Mr Ed turned into leather kinda puts me off using it.
@johnferradino
@johnferradino 3 жыл бұрын
I once saw a video about a tannery that used pigeon poop for tanning that claimed to produce the best leather, so which is it?
@mcope9233
@mcope9233 3 жыл бұрын
As a leather worker, I can confirm leather is very expensive lol. One shoulder (aka half a full hide) can be anywhere from 80-200 dollars
@StuninRub
@StuninRub 3 жыл бұрын
If you think a shoulder is half a hide, you must be a shit leather worker.
@stuartcommon4651
@stuartcommon4651 3 жыл бұрын
@@StuninRub although technically you're correct in that it isn't half a hide, it doesn't mean they're a shit leather worker.
@StuninRub
@StuninRub 3 жыл бұрын
@@stuartcommon4651 A leather worker that doesn't even know the medium they are working with can be a good one? No, I don't think so. That reeks of milk and half hearted resolve.
@stuartcommon4651
@stuartcommon4651 3 жыл бұрын
@@StuninRub no... a leather worker who puts down another leather worker because of their perceived lack of knowledge is a shit person... (that's you by the way)
@StuninRub
@StuninRub 3 жыл бұрын
@@stuartcommon4651 You use the term leather worker very loosely. Somebody doesn't automatically become a leather worker just because they bought their first beginner kit off of Amazon.
@tdog7326
@tdog7326 Жыл бұрын
name of piece of music that starts at 1:03 ? Must be baroque era or something
@LifeGeneralist
@LifeGeneralist 3 жыл бұрын
The important thing is "...that no animal is killed for its skin or meat"
@Red3white
@Red3white 3 жыл бұрын
L'ascia Chio Panga. Beaaaautiful piece of music
@zombis89fisto
@zombis89fisto 3 жыл бұрын
Aw yes making leather nice and sustainable
@bunnybro5977
@bunnybro5977 3 жыл бұрын
Watching this was weird. Like I watch the stacks in storage and the vat full of leather, and ir registers as fabric, and them for a spilt second it hits me that that's all straight up skin, and then I go back to seeing it as fabric
@googiegress
@googiegress 3 жыл бұрын
For me it really looks like a creature's skin when it comes out of the drum all soft and slippery and gross. All the rest of the time it just seems like a material.
@Angloman2000
@Angloman2000 3 жыл бұрын
If you think veg-tanned leather is expensive, look at brain tanning.
@LuxAudio389
@LuxAudio389 3 жыл бұрын
That's a great idea for a thesis, book, or documentary.
@thunderusnight
@thunderusnight 3 жыл бұрын
It's not *that* expensive. Tuscan dyed vegitan is expensive cause it's the Ferrari of the leather world.
@alessiocai9952
@alessiocai9952 3 жыл бұрын
Yes my man hahaha, here my local dealer sells for 50€ a cowhide about 100cm m², what's make it expensive is the quality surface, texture, quality skin, colors added, colors are really expensive, you add alcohol based yourself but it's really diferent compared a tanned with pigments, they don't rub off so for using as Lining leather they won't rub off, in cheaper chromo tanned their lining leather it just smells so bad when you sweats on it and the color rubs off on your white socks
@Hattonbank
@Hattonbank 2 жыл бұрын
And Ferrari are not known within the automotive industry for using quality leather. Range Rover blow them away with their choices and quality of leathers.
@NetvoTV
@NetvoTV 3 жыл бұрын
Before I learn more about leather, I thought vegetable tanned means it's vegan and vegatable made leather!
@lucaskp16
@lucaskp16 3 жыл бұрын
there is some mushroom fabric but they kinda suck
@Hattonbank
@Hattonbank 3 жыл бұрын
No. Vegetable tanned leather means that instead of using man made chemicals as they do in chrome and chrome free leather, veg tanning uses the oils and resins from plants, trees and bushes etc. This is the earliest process long before man made chemicals were used which shortened the tanning process and made leathers more plentiful and affordable. It is probably a myth but they say leather was "invented" when a cave man dropped a fresh animal skin at the base of a tree that had a large exposed root structure that captured rainfall in puddles at the base. The rainfall running down the trunks absorbed some bark resin and together with fallen leaves that collected in the puddle, this fermentation started a reaction within the fresh hide. Several weeks or months later, the caveman came back to the tree and notice the sodden hide. He took it hiome, laid it out to dry, and saw that it did not perish but was tough and durable and could be put to many uses. With this knowledge he repeated the process and the rest is..........................history? It is a nice story, maybe there is some truth to it.
@venus_envy
@venus_envy 2 жыл бұрын
What is the music at the beginning of this video?
@suesfriend1431
@suesfriend1431 2 жыл бұрын
Ireland should see what Poland is doing !
@emilye709
@emilye709 Жыл бұрын
Is it veg dyed as well?
@johna.4334
@johna.4334 3 жыл бұрын
Back in 2016 I had the displeasure of visiting the famous (infamous?) open air leather tanning facility in Fez, Morocco. Oh my gosh, what an eye-opener this turned out to be. These filththy, surly young men tan leather in huge vats of animal urine to remove the hair and for softening. The temp outside is 45C+ and the stench is overpowering. Pee-yew!
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