Why Video Game Consoles Are Going Extinct: Destin Reacts

Video game consoles have not really been increasing in terms of sales, and in this video from Going Indie the reasons are explored. Will the Xbox Series X|S be the final Xbox console? Will the PlayStation 5 be the final PS5 unit produced? Will the Nintendo Switch continue printing money? Time will tell, but while consoles aren't going away any time soon, there's a good chance that the Xbox news of the future will not be about a new console, but about new games and services being more widely available.
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[@DestinL]

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[@chickenwings6172]

This IGN idiot said at 3:07 to 3:15 says "the Playstation 4 sold fewer units then the Playstation 3 in it''s lifetime" The PS3 sold around 86 million units and the PS4 sold 120+ units. Can't spell ignorant without IGN.

[@timberry3795]

No I don't think so. However, if they do I'll be back to PC... they're not going anywhere. I almost never became a console gamer because when I bought my first powerful PC there was nothing that could compare. Everything gets old however and moods and money changes, so I made the switch and haven't been on PC since.

[@frankkent5567]

No, but Xbox might be.

[@jomac3423]

No, we need consoles

[@ronniepatterson2827]

Some consoles are going extinct, others arent. As for a clue which one it could be, look for headlines that include phrases like "consoles are dying" or "obsolete" in the uploads title, then notice the brand that usually covered on that particular channel lol

[@RexColt]

3:10 This is incorrect. The PS3 sold around 88 million units while the PS4 sold around 120 million units.

[@mikeh4818]

Yeah, wtf?

[@DestinL]

Yeah I had the console mixed up.

[@stevenhinchley3588]

LOL@@DestinL

[@Alien_isolationist]

And he said it should tell you where things are at, when gaming is just as popular as ever. 50 million PS5s in 3 shirt years should tell you where it's at. If they keep the same pace, PS5 will outsell PS2 by decades end. PS4 I year 11 still has games. PS5 lifespan is still very young. As more games come, more people want it, and PS5 is a hot item, especially Q4. I think we will see 100 million sales in 2-2.5 years honestly. Someone said "I have to get a PS5 now that Rebirth is PS5 only". Those moments will continue the more PS4 is left behind because everyone has that favorite franchise they have to have. The amount of exclusives for PS5, both 1st Party & 2nd Party is smoking the competition.

[@chfgn]

Pretending that the Switch is not a console is so silly. Nintendo violates his narrative by having a wildly successful console so he pretends it doesn't count for some arbitrary reason. The Switch covers literally 100% of the functionality of any other console. Just because it ALSO includes full handheld functionality doesn't in any way invalidate the fact that it's still a game console (and a damn good one at that). That's like saying Sony exited the console market with the PS2 because it could also play DVDs, so it's a DVD player now and not a console anymore. Offering additional, desirable functionality in your console (while still delivering the full uncompromised console experience) doesn't make it not a console.

[@atemias5670]

Destin tomorrow, consoles will never be extinct

[@DestinL]

Ha I say as much in this video.

[@Pyramid789]

I would bet money on it

[@DaveGX]

No.

[@kaonashi2821]

It's better not to give him ideas

[@JahonCross]

I've recently built a pc and never touched my xbox in weeks

[@teapouter6109]

Slight correction, the PS4 did sell more units than the PS3. 117 million compared to 87 million for the PS3.

[@bryanking1428]

30 million more, it's not a small difference and PS5 is now ahead of PS4. It's ridiculous to look at Xbox's decline and apply that to PlayStation, which is still growing.

[@jefp65]

Yeah Im not sure what Destin was thinking there

[@cookingsauce8274]

He's trying to push a narrative. No one in their right mind can accidentally think ps3 was more popular than ps4. The title should be why xbox consoles are dying while playstation/nintendo are thriving

[@PicklePete69]

​@@cookingsauce8274calm down. He admitted in the comments that he messed up and mixed the consoles up

[@cookingsauce8274]

@PicklePete69 yea sure but the title is something. Everyone knows there's only 1 company struggling to sell consoles. And trying to project their failures onto others is stupid

[@cody9409]

The PS3 did not outsell the PS4…

[@PurushNahiMahaPurush]

The PS5 is selling at the same pace as PS4 did around its 3 year mark despite the early chip shortage. And Nintendo is breaking all sorts of records with Switch. Safe to say, consoles are not going extinct.

[@tacothunder2298]

The only way consoles would effectively go extinct is if a high end PC costs $500 USD.

[@DillyVesper]

Yeah... 2011 Geforce 580 GTX cost ~500 euros. Now 4080 cost twice as much.

[@utopic1312]

not at all,that's ridiculous

[@TheOrangeSunsetGaming]

If anything I'd love to see more of these handheld PCs. If Microsoft and Sony put more into portables, I'm sure they'd sell well.

[@TheTytan007]

Microsoft has better prospects in making handhelds than Sony. Owning the most popular PC system and PC store is the ultimate ACE card they could possibly have. It's not that Sony can't make that happen, but Microsoft has definitely more means to do so

[@coffee7180]

Sony has the chance to release a mobile gaming device by making it a phone, experia play 2 would be a great thing now.

[@TheTytan007]

@@coffee7180 I'd love to have Xperia Play 2. But in the end I'd be just an android phone with all of its limitations. By handheld people mean something like Steam Deck or Switch

[@Game4Lord]

@@TheTytan007 Software wise, Microsoft would be able to make a fairly decent handheld OS. Hardware wise however, it's up in the air if we're being 100% truthful. Not to be biased toward Sony here. They, unlike Microsoft, do have experience with creating handhelds. Don't get me wrong though, Microsoft is absolutely leaving money on the table as they're the only platform that has yet to delve into the portable market as of yet, with something of their own design.

[@TheTytan007]

@@Game4Lord Software wise Microsoft can do a lot because of what is happening to Windows behind the scenes and what they are developing. But I'd not sleep on their hardware capabilities either because Surface and Xbox hardware people know their stuff really well. The problem with bringing Sony's past handhelds is that they are quite far removed from what modern devices are like today and they don't indicate what we could expect. That being said - if Valve was capable of making Steam Deck then Sony and Microsoft would be 100% capable of designing their own

[@mistadopeman]

To claim that Nintendo exited the console war is absolutely absurd. They have clearly taken the lead and don’t even acknowledge the console war.

[@TheCybercoco]

Nintendo never acknowledged a console war. Even with Sega.

[@Game4Lord]

@@TheCybercoco Sega simply wanted to make a console, and Sony, for lack of a better word, told them to fuck off, and created the PS1 out of spite, and arrogance. It blows my mind that people don't realize that the only platform that has ever been hellbent on winning, is that of Sony's. Microsoft, and Nintendo simply wanted to do their own thing, and nobody's realized that.

[@mistadopeman]

@@Game4Lord Microsoft never wanted to compete in the console battle? That is totally incorrect. Obviously now they’ve changed their approach. But back then it was a competitive move against Sony.

[@Game4Lord]

@@mistadopeman Incorrect? And whom exactly says that?

[@mistadopeman]

@@Game4Lord dude in the video said that. Did you even watch it?

[@alexsaraceno6144]

"When you play everything on your phone, why but a 5-600 dollar console ?" I'm sorry, you can't compare playing on a phone to playing a game on a 55", 65", 75-77" TV. People are already reversing their cervical curves in their necks and as a result having way more arthritis in their spines much earlier in life due to looking down for social media time. I have patients 13, 16, 17 years old already having increase headaches, numbness & tingling down their arm. Now have AAA gaming on the phones too ? Why wouldn't anybody want to play on a big TV for that immersion ? Crazy I hope the home console never goes away.

[@mrjones29]

True, sounds crazy to think playing on a small phone is the thing to do with big budget complex games.

[@Game4Lord]

Consoles aren't going extinct anytime soon. This was debunked during the ABK trial earlier this summer.

[@doolbedolc]

Yes, the consoles are going the way of the dinosaur along with physical media.everything is going to subscription service in the near future.

[@Rekx-pw8mk]

@@doolbedolcand what are people going to play the games from those subscription services on?

[@kthebarbarian8223]

​@@doolbedolc Physical hardware is usually still required to use a subscription. Sub services also aren't viable for gaming in the larger ecosystem unless you're willing to take huge losses to start. Which eliminates 99% of all other businesses. Digital stores like STEAM, and PS & Nintendo sales show native gaming/ purchasing AAA games is far more popular than any of the sub services in gaming. Unless a particular sub service can capture enough subscribers then they will end up losing tons of money. Hence why in the FTC trial we learned that MS wants at least 100 Million subscribers by 2027 to be viable in the future. Even Phil Spencer predicted that GamePass would only account for 15% of their revenue... Meaning the remaining 85%, the vast majority, won't be generated by subscription anytime soon. You're looking at another 15-20 years at least. Consoles will be around until after 2040, so you should fully expect to see a PlayStation 7.

[@TheTytan007]

We're approaching the point where console like experience implemented on PCs and phones. I don't expect console hardware to go away right away, but don't be surprised if the next Xbox moved closer to the regular Windows PC than ever

[@Game4Lord]

@@doolbedolcXbox's next console was leaked during the ABK trial. You're nitpicking, and biased. I win. Bye bye.

[@aizentaicho82]

Eh, you say it's the games that make Nintendo sell so well. I'm pretty sure being $200 cheaper plays a huge part. Let's see what happens when it's $400+

[@moomin7461]

Price is definitely a factor, and the original gameboy outsold the competition despite inferior hardware, because it was cheaper, but it was also the most portable with the longest battery life and a large selection of games.

[@kenpanderz]

its a combination of like, 4 factors: fanbase, price point, game exclusivity and uniqueness. the fanbase massively props up consoles by acting as metrics tons of good publicity and advertisement. the pricepoint lowers the bar for entry for both recurring and new players, to where a parent will buy the cheapest console because they dont know the differences between them. game exclusivity helps drive console sales, because you can only play the new Zelda on the switch, for instance. and "uniqueness" of the device, which often Nintendo is the front runner here, implementing motion controls so boldly as to make it the main function of the Wii, as an example. the other consoles are very samey and more expensive than Nintendo devices, and so if you were going in blind and had to choose which console to get, the uniqueness of the device and the lower price point alone would be major factors for choosing a Nintendo device. though that all being said, phones and PCs are still "better" generally because of their versatility, more widely varying price ranges, and lower barrier to entry than even a Nintendo device. though this is most prominent in countries outside of America for various reasons.

[@DLastResort]

Consoles aren't going away anytime soon. Maybe in the Western market everyone has high speed internet and a smart TV to stream cloud games, but in the rest of the world this is not the case and won’t be anytime soon.

[@AmericanGypsy206]

The rest of the world has Internet capability too. The world is modernized. It’s not just the west I know because when I used to play Xbox 360, I played other players from literally every corner of the globe 🌏

[@kingsleyjackson8287]

The PS4 sold like 100M & Xbox one 60M that’s 160M players they’ll continue buying consoles

[@TheMahayanist]

4 billion gamers 160 million on console. Do the math.

[@hemanownsyou]

Except it's not 160 million because many of those people have both consoles.

[@badxgamingx3942]

@@TheMahayanist That’s not how the math goes, there are more mobile famers than PC, does that mean you can do the math and PC is out? 😂 Console gaming is never going to go away, not everyone is willing to throw thousands on a PC to play video games when you can buy a ps5/xbox for half the price

[@R.T.12]

Destin, I gotta say man. I originally subbed to your channel for your coverage of Microsoft vs the FTC. Of course I’m familiar with your work on IGN etc., but man I’ve stuck around since the trial and am thoroughly enjoying your content/reaction videos. Keep up the great work

[@DestinL]

Thank you RT

[@joantonio6331]

I think a good chunk of us subscribed during that FTC stuff

[@mistadopeman]

Yup. Thats what got me.

[@mecharobots]

Consoles sales speak for themselves. Maybe if it was the xbox sales for all 3 platforms then maybe we should be concerned . Internet speed not where it should be for everyone and with consoles not really having a great returns or policy for digital games. I think physical still maybe 10/20 years .

[@kingsleyjackson8287]

Fax

[@TheMahayanist]

Console sales are down massively compared to last Gen.

[@GenkiStarLeaf]

⁠@@TheMahayanistMaybe this is due to the cost of current consoles. Historically, consoles come down in price overtime. Not with this generation. Disposable income is sparse especially with today’s economic climate.

[@mecharobots]

@TheMahayanist they are down but overall they are still breaking records or either outperforming and don't forget at the start of xsx and ps5 they struggled to make the consoles becuase of covid. 50 million an insane amount for one platform and I think we have till 2028 until maybe the next one out. As we are now just hitting our stride with current gen titles

[@wortega563]

You stated that the PS4 sold fewer units than the PS3. Current life time sales is PS4 sold 117.2 million and PS3 Sold 87.4

[@Dmatrio]

Consoles wont go extinct, but therebwill be changes

[@marioantoniocrespoMexican92]

Books will never die. I love having physical book

[@kenpanderz]

thats a pretty bad omen if this is supposed to me analogous to consoles. sure they may not "die", but they'll play a very minor role in gaming if they go the way of physical books..

[@brownnutter]

Gaming PC is not getting cheaper. It was possible to custom build high-end PC for under 1000. Now GPU alone costs 1000.

[@carlstevenwilletts]

You are correct, GPU's are very expensive. RAM and Storage costs are very reasonable, however. Where the PC has a big advantage, is that you don't lose your games catalogue by upgrading so you never have the expense of having to build a new one. I personally hope that PC and console gaming goes from strength to strength.

[@beartackle]

​@carlwilletts343 Also, you can change the graphics settings, which is why my brother, with his old laptop, can play many current games by lowering the settings. LOL, he said Death Stranding made his laptop sound like a jet engine.

[@craigsampson3386]

Inflation plays a big role in that, even in the last 3 years its spiked.

[@craigsampson3386]

@@Vhaal-2 I'd argue its both, they're both big factors.

[@Mr-jj3gp]

These people bruh 😂 Yes, if you are talking about the top of the line GPU. You don’t always have to get the most powerful stuff, don’t forget you can control your graphical settings for each game and games still look better than what consoles give you any day.

[@kodaloid]

I honestly think the future of gaming is gaming handhelds not mobile. You loose something tactile with a touch screen that makes phones always awkward to play on, but stuff like the switch, steam deck, claw, ally etc... they just seem so right for the market we are in.

[@kenpanderz]

i really hope thats the direction we go in. i feel like consoles have been stagnating for so long now they have very little to offer that isnt available with Tower-based PCs or powerful laptops. but portable gaming with physical controls, rather than on-screen touch controls, is a relatively untapped market, only a few devices being widely produced, even fewer being powerful enough to meaningfully keep up with more demanding games. you just cant reasonably play fast-paced games with touch screen controls alone, so phones cant really replace the Switch/Steamdeck in that regard. i really think the future of gaming should be PC's and Handhelds only. PC's for power-gaming at home, and Handhelds for on-the-go gaming, such as long distance travel. i dont dislike consoles, i just think they're largely redundant and it would be better to reduce the number of devices you have to buy to play all the good games being made the way you want to play them.

[@Oshawa87]

Think its more along the lines consoles are slowly turning into a pc thats just more affordable and devs optimize their games for

[@kenpanderz]

it makes me wonder how long it'll be, gong down this track, before they just exit the console market and just focus on making their games for PC/handheld devices instead of selling consoles at a steeper and steeper loss over further generations due to how crazy the price hikes for everything have gotten.

[@1986Lutrix]

I remember people saying consoles would be obsolete during the 360/ps3 era.

[@Raigeki-SC]

I remember people saying mobile would replace consoles, like destin is saying here Those are very different markets

[@GenkiStarLeaf]

@@Raigeki-SCPlaying Resident Evil 4 Remake on a smartphone might sound cool. Unless there’s new battery technology on the horizon the experience will always be garbage.

[@Raigeki-SC]

@@GenkiStarLeaf the only fun that game boots on cost a thousand dollars and it runs worse than on ps4, I think were still ways off those phone taking over consoles

[@evilalex87]

as long people buy them they not gona , i sure will always get one

[@TheBean87]

@AlezanderNXsame, I was a pc gamer but consoles just are too convenient.

[@spookyman9994]

i am also 42 , the day of making video game console is close to an end but i am happy that i was part of it for over 30 years .

[@Cullenprime]

The fact that you can hook up a Nintendo switch to your TV makes it a console

[@djob7384]

I think triple A games will become less relevant. Mostly because independent studios are catching up with the availability of software like Unreal and independent developers just tend to respect a player's time more than triple A studios. Plus how beautiful a game looks doesn't equate to how fun a game is. Nintendo do a great job because they make fun titles, I don't see them going anywhere as long as they maintain making great experiences

[@lunarx3dfx]

Destin. You have a lot of good points and opinions, but the PS4 did not sell less units than the PS3. In fact, the PS4 has sold over 117 million units to date compared to the PS3’s 87 million lifetime sales.

[@fawkkyutuu8851]

I thought the PS4 sold far more than PS3 , 87.4 million (PS3) vs 117.2 million (PS4) according to Wiki.

[@italiener82]

Gaming is no longer tied to one device or location, for the most part. There's a lot of convenience in enjoying your games on any device, anywhere you want. That's the beauty of modern technology and what most people prefer.

[@SWOTHDRA]

Lol ok 🤡

[@wheels7176]

Inter net infrastructure has not been updated in rural areas

[@mecharobots]

Games are expensive but that's down to developers and how they want to make their games. Hades cost fuck all compared to any Sony game and its loved just as much . If your games great I bet 9 times out of 10 it will sell. Just look at nintendo and the titles they make , don't push graphics but gameplay 99% of the time is perfect and fans support these titles. Mario wonder sold more in 2 days than spiderman 2 did . Suicide squad might sell well but so far everything I've seen and read from people's reactions its not what we want and as being a father I don't have time to play 15 live service titles. That's why sony making 12 live service titles was stupid to begin with.

[@DLastResort]

Agreed. We need to stop using Spider-Man 2 to sell the narrative that every game cost 300 million to make. Most games cost substantially less than that and make a great profit margin over the lifetime of the product. People these days see numbers on the internet and start making wild assumptions about development cost and sales they know nothing about.

[@blamcheese]

Hope consoles dont go extinct any time soon we need competition to keep these companies in check.

[@paulmarks3662]

Consoles going extinct will create more competition though. Sony and MS will have to compete with EA and Ubisoft for example. If consoles go away they will all have to compete as publishers and there are more publishers then console makers.

[@bjarnis]

The direction is going against pc again, that's why the so called exclusives are put on Steam now. Consoles will probably still be around for many more years, but the fictional "console war" is already over, it's just if you want the blue or green plastic box.

[@TheMahayanist]

Competition will be based on software.

[@earlyriser03]

⁠@@paulmarks3662doubtful. If Sony and MS decided to drop consoles today and move forward solely as digital-only launchers on PC and TVs, I don’t see either attempting to step up their game any more than what they’re doing now. Xbox is already showing us what it would do with Game Pass. Sony would follow suit. If anything, they’ll be competing against Valve and Epic.

[@brownnutter]

I hope consoles go extinct and we will see Sega rise back with their back catalogue.

[@sclark6807]

Consoles arent going extinct just xbox, ps5 and nintendo numbers are looking great.

[@illestReason]

I have to agree with him on Nintendo. The Switch is a handheld unit 1st. In fact it feels like the true successor to the actual Gameboy. Pokemon made for you to play with your friends on the go. No major Pokemon title (Red, Blue, Diamond and Pearl, etc) has been made for a home console. That alone tells you Nintendo is in the mobile market. I barely use my Switch on my TV. It's always on the go with me.

[@codeblood2000]

Yet it is designed to hook up to your TV with no problem. You have the choice to use it strictly as a handheld or as both😊

[@illestReason]

@codeblood2000 which is the dope part and I can see xbox and Sony following them after seeing its success. It's about to pass the PS2 in sales as the number 1 console of all time.

[@rafaelrobles5494]

When that day comes, I will give up on Video games, subscriptions sucks!

[@CreativeGeoff]

Yeah, I had to slightly disagree with the original vid. Console gaming is at an all-time high with millions still buying PS5s and Switch consoles. The key is offering a unique experience that consumers can't find elsewhere. Microsoft left the console wars not because of its future, but because they couldn't innovate. And it's sad because they literally had the blueprint right under their noses with the Xbox 360. (Affordability, innovative UI, strong exclusive lineup, community-based features, etc.)

[@GamingTalk-cl7xj]

200 million consoles sell every gen. Stagnant, but never going away

[@Aussie-grizzly]

I'm excited to see what can happen in the future, but I'm worried that there may not be an option for physical next gen which will affect a lot of people who have no or bad internet and collectors who enjoy having stuff on their shelves to look at, but whatever happen I will still be supporting the Xbox brand

[@kennypowers1945]

Lol I think it’s funny when people say consoles are going extinct when they sell record numbers each year 😂😂

[@DLastResort]

lol yeah and phones which have 1/10th the screen size and 2 hour battery lives when gaming is what will replace consoles….I can’t wait! 😂😂

[@Raigeki-SC]

It’s hilarious, I mean phones has been booming since 2011 or so and so far nothing, console gamers have also growth It’s because those are different markets

[@likeaboss3160]

I just got a PC and I love it but sometimes I just want to turn my Xbox on without the need to mess with settings or troubleshoot things so it looks or works right.

[@OrkDiktator]

Unpopular opinion: The Xbox one was great. For me it was the reason to com back to console gaming after 12 years only on PC. I loved the Kincet voice commands and face recognition. It was more than ust a gaming console it was a multimedia center and I loved it for that. Now I have to chose between Xbox and PC becaue I can't afford upgrading and buying gamess for both. And PC is the most important piece of electronics to me in my household. So I quit Xbox and go back to 100% PC. I still use my Kinect on PC and stay in Xbox Network and Game PAss

[@DaveGX]

“This was the 1st time Nintendo wasn’t profitable.” Nintendo VirtualBoy: Am I joke to you?!

[@Alien_isolationist]

I just popped in to say whoever believes it is delusional. Nintendo, Xbox, Playstation still exists. When, IF theres only 2 competitors left, bring the debate back up.

[@jomac3423]

I was literally just talking to somebody about this like 2 minutes ago 0:29

[@Boss_Fight_Index_muki]

There are 3 parts to the gaming ecosystem: platform holder, 3rd party developers, end users. Beyond any other dis/advantages consoles have, eg ownership costs or lower power, it offers one prime advantage - relatively hassle free development only a unified platform provides. That's why consoles will always be a thing.

[@SnowyRains]

Personally i dont want them to go extinct because I prefer to have a console where devs develop around it for 10 years than me having to upgrade a pc every 5 minutes to be able to play a game

[@joantonio6331]

Do you know the second most used graphic card on steam is almost 10 years old...?

[@SnowyRains]

@@joantonio6331 wow i would never have expected that, a lot has changed since i bought a pc

[@joantonio6331]

@@SnowyRains yes, the tech still evolve every year but you do not have to upgrade since game do not evolve that much

[@TheMahayanist]

If you get a good PC you don't need to upgrade always.

[@touple6190]

Im starting to think that the big companies wants us to rent hardware in the future, rather than buying it.

[@drongorius]

Xbox as a console will extinct , as a publisher they will rise

[@afrosrb7828]

Hey Destin I suggested Ryan a year ago or so to react with you to an old ep of UNLOCKED. He answered me _"That would be awesome",_ something like that. But since that hasn't happened yet, I'm askin you to invite him and you both react to that, that would be so great 😊. And if he doesn't want to, then you could invite Miranda, Mark Medina or some guests like Kahlief. And if no one wants, then you can do it alone. It's: _Xbox One: Podcast Unlocked Special Edition Ep. 96_ You were there with Ryan and a lot of other people with a special guest. Would be so awesome to see your thoughts and reaction, with the knowledge of NOW, 10 years after, to what your thoughts were back then 😁

[@blrdf]

3:10 The PS4 sold LESS than the PS3? This is incredibly false. PS4 sold almost 120m units vs 87m PS3 units.

[@cheeks3211]

And PS5 is out pacing PS4. Switch depending on what Nintendo does with production with older unit could hit 150m. They are at132m currently as of November.

[@SamuraiMookieYT]

Great video. Yes Microsoft has slowly been shifting their focus away from console hardware to software. They realize that develop hardware that will have games designed for it for 5-7+ years just to do it all again isn’t moving the needle. Being the publisher and having games on every platform imaginable is where the money is. Having these “walled gardens” is an unsustainable treadmill. I am curious as to how Sony will respond or if they can respond. This will change the industry on its head.

[@kthebarbarian8223]

I don't know a single core gamer that has "jumped ship" to phones. PC's perhaps, but not a single one has jumped to just playing games on their phone, unless they simply don't play AAA games anymore. They aren't necessarily overlapping markets, and when MS, and Phil Spencer talk about "2 Billion gamers", they're fully aware that most of those people don't want to play Halo, God of War or Elden Ring. The barrier to entry isn't the hardware, or even cost... it's interest. My girlfriend, Mom, sister and some friends aren't playing games because they don't have access, they don't play AAA games because they have no interest. Most of these people literally have consoles sitting in their homes due to a family member or partner having one, and never once wanted to turn them on for themselves. They're fine playing Candy Crush on their phones during a lunch break and moving on. They don't want to play Final Fantasy VII Rebirth, they just don't. The PC crowd are simply more entrenched gamers, who typically have more disposable income. They aren't destroying the console market either as they are simply a more niche pool of gamers. Some 3rd party devs don't even like putting their games on PC because of rampant piracy/ smaller overall pool of buyers or bring the games to the platform much later. Just look at GTA VI as a perfect example. This notion that consoles are going away isn't even supported by data which suggests that the console market is GROWING, not shrinking... Nor is it backed by any shift in the markets behavior. Even Phil Spencer said GamePass has stagnated despite being on more devices than ever before. Until the crowd that buys consoles stop buying them, or sub services overtake console purchasers (won't happen) then you'll continue to see consoles.We have at least another 20 years of consoles ahead of us. Fully expect to see a PS7, which will likely go well past 2040.

[@ryanb3908]

Mobile gaming accounts for 70% of the entire revenue in the industry. 🤦🏻

[@DLastResort]

Well said

[@ryanb3908]

Actually Gamepass is confirmed to be growing every year since it's inception and making a profit. You must be thinking of Sony's service which is losing subs and has over 30 million less than Gamepass.

[@dannypassion]

Handheld PC are going to take over Console gaming

[@trevorphilips2090]

Imagine hooking up your phone to a TV, grabbing your controller for a gaming session, then your mother-in-law calls you for something. The thing is with the phone is that 1. not everyone wants to buy an $700 phone, I'm happy with an $100 phone 2. dedicated, mobile architecture based handhelds with the same performance but proper controls can be had for half the price.

[@Molybed1]

Oh and one more thing.... anyone notice this.....? When the Wii was outselling PS3 and Xbox 360, the "One console future" narrative was spammed everywhere at the time. Where is the "One console future"? Where is it? Now the Switch has sold outsold the PS4 and the Xbox Series, all of a sudden, "Consoles are going extinct". Same cope different time. Anyone notice the common factor? This is all COPE when all is said and done. Sucks to be you all. 🤷‍♀

[@MrJoshuaAM]

Wasn't it discovered at some point Nintendo were deliberately creating scarcity with the Wii as a sales tactic? I always think about that when it's brought up how hard they were to get.

[@mpoveroni]

You wont need the cloud to play games simply download them to your phone mirror to tv we already have controller you can attach to the side of it if you can take your phone anywhere and play these games it would be a game changer

[@rico1217]

Destin. You are doing it again. Please, if you want to do a video like this, stop interrupting the flow of the video.

[@TakaChan569]

This shit is said every console gen...yet we all still fall for it and watch the vids lol.

[@chriscoleman7260]

The switch is a handheld 1st. Including a dock video out isn't an innovation but the next step in handheld competition. PSP had optional cables for video out. Vita had its internals put into a separate box called Vita TV instead of including HDMI out on the Vita itself. Both handhelds let you use PS3/4 controller. PSP GO even let you use Dual Shock 3 (Nintendo PRO Controller) without a tv, just like the Switch but it came before the Switch. PS2 Ethernet was separate but included on Xbox which came after the PS2. Switch misses out on the highest tier games Such as Alan Wake 2, Baldurs Gate 3, Cyberpunk, FF7 Remake. Switch can only handle low to mid tier games, technically wise. Switch is for Nintendo games and 3rd party exclusives while XB and PS are for everything that isn't exclusive to Nintendo.

[@heroicgangster9981]

i'm honestly hoping console graphics specifically reaches its peak because it is seriously not healthy at this rate to try and significantly one up the previous generation with how AAA games are being made nowadays. Someday, games would have to justify themselves through the quality instead of the amount of power and technology used

[@saul0007]

Just a friendly request. Can you please adjust the audio levels of your clips vs when you speak. You sound loud and clear and I can barely hear the audio from the videos. When I raise it to hear them then you speak it's super loud.

[@coffee7180]

I don't see the console going anywhere. You can buy a console for 260/400 bucks and have a great time with it, no shader compilation stutters, no expensive GPU market, no driver issues, no multiple gaming launchers, super efficient, exclusive, no authentication, easy and fast use, couch gaming, disc support and far less cheating, something that kills older games on PC. Even on the eyes of devs the console is a far better options just by the amount of money they loose on paying anti cheat company's, anti piracy and optimizing their games on PC.

[@Gukworks]

If it happens slow enough, only old men, some old women, will care they're gone. Being old and seeing things you love replaced go together like peas and carrots...

[@0194D]

I think you have to be obtuse to say you were confused if the Xbox one was a Console or not.I think announcement of the original Xbox one was done the way that it was because Microsoft was trying to spin the Xbox announcement in a way that will get more people to buy the Xbox in the same way that PlayStation got more people to buy the PS2 and the PS3 Because the PS2 sold very well because it had been included DVD player and the PS3 while it’s struggled it had the absolute benefit of having to include a Blu-ray player at the time. So I will always think that Microsoft goal was to try to attract more people into the ecosystem by trying to spin it as an all in one device even though they clearly talked about gaming at the announcement they had call of duty and I believe they announce quantum break there originally.

[@A-0-K-GAMER]

man I grow up in the Wii U Xbox One and ps4 you know the goated generation and steambox

[@scarceak47]

Honestly destin I hear people saying mobile is really used alot for gaming and I'm having trouble believing it. Never have I seen any if my friends let alone anyone pull out their phone and say * I'm gonna start gaming * maybe mobile is big in other countries but I don't see many people playing on their phones for more than 5 minutes

[@TheAmazingSpiderGuy_99]

I don’t think mobile is ever gonna catch up on a hardware level. Games running natively will always be a novelty; it’s waiting for the cloud in my opinion. Only now an iPhone can play games at a level below even PS4. Also yes I agree on Sony right now, it’s very concerning. I feel like that gamble on live service has made their biggest asset (exclusives) suffer hugely even if they won’t admit it and this year’s lack of first party games is proof in my mind. If the PS6 is just another console, there is a big problem I concur.

[@saesang352]

People who think phones are going to just magically replace a console are just delusional. A mobile chip uses 5-10W with 0 cooling, while a console typically uses 200-300W with a huge intricate cooling system. That's why a 1300$ iPhone 15 max can't even outperform an 11 year old base ps4.

[@TheAmazingSpiderGuy_99]

@@saesang352 That’s exactly what I’m getting at. Well said.

[@johnnyblaze9217]

⁠@@TheAmazingSpiderGuy_99imma game developer, and I can tell you the future is already here. A modern iPhone is stronger than a ps4 pro.

[@TheAmazingSpiderGuy_99]

@@johnnyblaze9217 So why are games struggling at base Xbox One settings then?

[@johnnyblaze9217]

@@TheAmazingSpiderGuy_99 they aren’t optimized nor developed for the platform. I developed my own emulator using some open source code and I’ve been able to play ps2 titles without an issue. Native titles if they were ported and optimized can run on an iPhone easily. An iPhone 12 with the A14 Bionic chip could EASILY play any Xbox 360 title at 60 fps or more max settings. It could also play many Xbox 1 titles without an issue if ported properly. Just because they aren’t doing it doesn’t mean it isn’t possible. Games like Fortnite showed it was possible 4 years ago without an issue. Valorant mobile is coming AC mirage among others. Game developers are finally realizing there is potential in mobile gaming. But only for iOS devices. Androids are not good enough for it.

[@RBFR01]

Gaming phones are twice the price of consoles. My Xbox series X was $750 where as my Asus Rog Phone 8 Pro was $2000

[@jaypayne8196]

I don't think so looking at my 10 year old playing his PlayStation they will never die

[@francistein8409]

Spiderman 2 cost $300m to make and it was fcking disappointing. Devs forgot how to make fun games anymore. Its all about great graphics, long cutscenes and pushing agendas. This is why i love games like elden ring, baldurs gate 3, and capcom games. they respect my time and money.

[@Thanosdidtherighthing]

“Pushing agendas” aka the game didn’t fit your agenda and you’re upset lol.

[@francistein8409]

@@Thanosdidtherighthing nah the game was trash 🤣 got sweet baby inc drool all over it

[@real_Pinoy]

This doesn't talk about how Playstation 3 was hard to develop Games or how the Playstation 2 had hdd & Network Adapter or Original xbox had live

[@XxDaReaper613xX]

17:49 I would agree with the premise of the handheld console with console features

[@terminusaquo1980]

I've been saying this for years, that Xbox is more than "just the box under your TV", its a platform that lets you play across various devices and the infographic confirms it. Console is just one way to play.

[@heroicgangster9981]

i don't think people are writing off the mobile market because it is not profitable. it is profitable and they know that. but to the hardcore gamers, there's still a whiles to go for the mobile market to get libraries compared to PC and console platforms. If you want to play "real games", buy a switch or PC or something.

[@GhostRydr1172]

Except that I personally have poor eyesight and cannot stand to play a AAA game on the largest screen of a reasonably sized cell phone. Let alone fumble my thunbs on a screen or an add on that simulates a console controller. I know many gamerz can play COD in their mobiles just fine but I'd rather not replace my console or pc with my cell phone for any gaming need.

[@matthewmenteer5673]

Streaming/Play Anywhere will diminish the numbers of consoles sold... I dont think its a full replacement, but its very good in a pinch. What I see is a decline in absolute console sales, but a growth in players and games sold and played. I do like the shift away from limiting hardware. If I want I can play most of my most popular games on PC or on console, and then there are some I can stream on almost any screen. Hopefully this means everything is forward compatible. As far as the Xbox One Era goes... there was a notible amount of anti~Xbox PR running around pre launch. Many of it untrue or simply rumors. PS4 was slightly faster in Flops and people swore up and down in all the comments that was the sole metric they would buy on.

[@jOviTooL214]

Great vid. Great eye opener the way games are going.

[@WaynesWorldUnlimited]

I’ve even worked in the gaming industry and from what we believe it’s not likely to last much beyond 2050 certainly not what we have today.. it will be a lot less than insignificant business.

[@MountKash1]

Playstation Owned/ Developed games for 2024. •Helldivers 2 (Feb 8) •MLB 24 (March) •Concord •Fairgame$ •Death Stranding 2 Even "Marathon" was going to release for 2024 but they pushed it to 2025. Lol why Destin try to pretend "Playstation" doesn't have games this year ?!

[@mattfarr137]

The one issue about consoles is because of that loss the companies take on them, if the market shrinks even more they’ll either have to either decrease the costs somehow, or increase the price.

[@ianbarber9451]

Software looks good for xbox on the hardware front sales are dismal even with steep discounts series x/s was third getting outsold by nintendo switch over christmas.

[@Marshmallow-ht8me]

PS4 sold less than PS3 bruh what? Dude you do know that the PS4 sold over 100 million right? PS3 didn’t even crack 90 mil

[@elusive4072]

There's still millions who love to plug in a console and play on the couch and tv without getting complex about it. I personally have a PC and play on couch and controller. I've got no interest in playing on a tiny smart phone.

[@alimanna123]

Hey Dustin I like these kinda videos keep on making them brother

[@oriongear2499]

I play on multiple platforms for a variety of reasons, but that doesn’t mean I’d want consoles or PC to go away forever.

[@AyBee9725]

The razor blade model sounds like steam and how they recoup their steam deck subsidized pricing through steam games

[@niemand7811]

I think some special PC gamers are saying that like for the last 2 decades. 2 decades down the road gaming consoles have gone extinct. We just haven't noticed it yet. 🤣

[@Plutoboy85]

GeForce Now Ultimate already has better performance than either console. Canadan, USA, Europe, and Japan all have goal of 90%+ high-speed internet connectivity by 2030.

[@raulmcgangbang6890]

Consoles being mandatory to buy exclusive games is going extinct. The poor masses will still buy them because pc prices are too expensive.

[@TheGamerFriends]

The problem with consoles is people expect a more powerful one every single generation. if we can just sacrifice the pretty visuals for good quality games that run at a decent FPS then everything would be fine. The problem is these console players want consoles to be like PCs. If you want a console to be a PC so bad buy a PC. The reason consoles were so good back in the day was because it was never about the power and It was more about the games and I think a lot of these companies forget what made consoles as big as they were to begin with.

[@Younguns0375]

Damn i hate how people give up on better graphics. They are not the main thing that make a game but they can make the game better.

[@arjun220]

If xbox want's it's game to be multiplat then why I'm not seeing starfield on PSN?

[@heroicgangster9981]

Ryan Reynolds cameo was not something i expected tbh

[@davidagiel8130]

Android gaming phones have already figured out the overheating issues with active cooling systems

[@codearchive3218]

Here’s something people sleep on, “gamification” if console manufacturers don’t gamify their consoles more, then there will be no need for them. It doesn’t just have to be about exclusives, it should be about the “experience” overall you can’t get on PC easily or officially. The problem is Sony and Microsoft don’t understand this, neither does Nintendo but Nintendo has an IP that proves it works. Look at Pokemon HOME, you can’t get home officially on PC, because it’s server back end. Sure you can use PKHek to create fake Pokemon, to inject into home and it might work, but you can’t download home or inject mons from home itself. Pokémon HOME is gamification, it adds an experience outside of the games you can’t get anywhere else. That’s the future of consoles, achievements were a good start, but then both Microsoft and Sony just left them in the dust to become utterly meaningless. A console isn’t just about exclusives, it needs to be more than that now. Services, experiences, applications as middle points between games to add extra value. Look at WoW how it jumps from expansion to expansion. Bringing your stuff with you, a collective history. That’s what consoles need, no one realises it yet though, fully. NFTs were not it. Way too much focus on money and greed and sleazy scams from low effort lazy devs.

[@Draggobuttboi]

What's the point of better mobile graphics if all we get is free to play garbage that has to rely on anti consumer practices and touch controls that are terrible for most 3D games?

[@jacoblesperance2115]

When you said the PS3 sold more than the Ps4 I topped listening. The Ps4 sold 40 million more units than the PS3

[@Nishantmania1]

Loving all this new content Destin