Why was Peter Sagan FURIOUS at Wout van Aert after Sprint | Tour de France 2022 Stage 3

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2 жыл бұрын

Lanterne Rouge presents highlights of Stage 3 of Tour de France 2022 where Peter Sagan was not very happy with Wout van Aert after the sprint.
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@ulto2915
@ulto2915 2 жыл бұрын
"I'm not a great lipreader, I'm not the cycling Jomboy" is such a good reference 🤣
@zackyeye
@zackyeye 2 жыл бұрын
The KZbin collab that we need!
@danielgeld9813
@danielgeld9813 2 жыл бұрын
The thing is though, LR IS the cycling Jomboy
@SaltyChip
@SaltyChip 2 жыл бұрын
I don’t even watch bike races or baseball, but appreciate both sports and am subbed to this and jomboy’s channels!
@Omnis2
@Omnis2 2 жыл бұрын
LR is the only way to watch Le Tour.
@harryschmidt4386
@harryschmidt4386 2 жыл бұрын
was not expecting a Jomboy refernce on this channel, love it tho!!
@bertrandbreton
@bertrandbreton 2 жыл бұрын
Your analysis of peloton dynamics, racing tactics and overall rider strategy is superior. Your competitors don't even come close to matching your work. Well done and thank you!
@lukaskaciasvili9351
@lukaskaciasvili9351 2 жыл бұрын
I strongly disagree. I thought the same in the past, but since I found Chris Horner and his channel, I think his inside look and pro knowledge about tactics is superior to anybody else….by far.
@nl979
@nl979 2 жыл бұрын
I believe he said “I disagree with your positioning, please be more careful next time, thanks”
@MichaelBoogerd
@MichaelBoogerd 2 жыл бұрын
the msg is right, but the tone might be wrong :D
@bobo-ph6xm
@bobo-ph6xm 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly...but you forgot to add the most important word: MOTHER.....R....
@franco7928
@franco7928 2 жыл бұрын
lol 😂
@sanseb17
@sanseb17 Жыл бұрын
Haha obviously "You m o f o"
@rickiovine2170
@rickiovine2170 2 жыл бұрын
Sagan is not quite Sagan just yet. He had an issue on Stage 2 with Jakobsen, and again on Stage 3 with van Aert. He wasn’t “furious” by any means. He’s just very competitive and had the legs to win. What he is missing is his unique ability to weave his way through chaos and win the stage like only he could do. So, he’s frustrated. But, he is so very close. I think he now has enough races under his belt to win a stage in this year’s Tour like the Sagan of old. It would be great to have him back!
@danielkol477
@danielkol477 2 жыл бұрын
Nah, this is the same shit that happned two years ago. Barriers crooked as teeth of a veteran crack abuser and the belgian bastard deviating again. Perhaps the last headbutt was too weak to put sense into van Aert.
@derekkuhl
@derekkuhl 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed on all points. Having him back to his previous form would be awesome!
@brunospasta
@brunospasta 2 жыл бұрын
I dont agree. He is still clearly on his a-game in late chaos situations. There is just an element of luck to it that is not controlleable. Last two sprints he did all the right decisions.
@SR-fm1ft
@SR-fm1ft 2 жыл бұрын
He’s right there in the mix contending at the end. That’s most of the battle the rest is a bit of luck. He can win one.
@ethanblagg
@ethanblagg 2 жыл бұрын
@@brunospasta Yeah I agree with the luck part. Even when he was at the top of his game, he ended up with lots of 2nd/3rd place finishes due to bad luck. I'm hoping to see him hop into a bunch of breakaways this year and nab points.
@JoeCincotta307
@JoeCincotta307 2 жыл бұрын
You have become my go to for Tour de France highlights. Keep it up. Great job!
@PeterLarsenJr
@PeterLarsenJr 2 жыл бұрын
Totally, this guy is the best Tour de France analyst.
@diogotonelo3132
@diogotonelo3132 2 жыл бұрын
@@PeterLarsenJr +1 not only for the tour but for any race he post!
@josie182xd
@josie182xd 2 жыл бұрын
And check his pod with Benji, definitely the best coverage
@diogotonelo3132
@diogotonelo3132 2 жыл бұрын
@@josie182xd will do for sure! :P
@jimbob5334
@jimbob5334 2 жыл бұрын
I watch NBC extended highlights first then watch this for analysis
@adamoconnell7744
@adamoconnell7744 2 жыл бұрын
Hilarious that the ITV coverage were making out he was pointing to GROENEWEGEN saying it was him who won. Saying the great Sagan knows he won, what a great guy pointing it out. It’s like my blind great aunt could see he was clearly visibly pissed at WVA……..
@Rughead12319
@Rughead12319 2 жыл бұрын
My announcers at first were claiming Sagan blocked Ewan? Lmao
@feedbackzaloop
@feedbackzaloop 2 жыл бұрын
Why would he not do both? Point at Groenewegen and be pissed at Aert...
@bobo-ph6xm
@bobo-ph6xm 2 жыл бұрын
Pointed to WVA and shouted: MOTHERF....R!!!
@iansteelmatheson
@iansteelmatheson 2 жыл бұрын
@@feedbackzaloop lmao that's nonsense. how many times have you talked to two different people simultaneously while riding a bike at 70km/h? he was pissed at WVA, because he blocked it. end of.
@danroberts007
@danroberts007 2 жыл бұрын
Feedback ZA Loop because why would he be pointing at Groenwegen?? That’s nonsensical.
@TomorrowsVibes
@TomorrowsVibes 2 жыл бұрын
We would love to see a video tomorrow, but I want to say that all of us appreciate you and the time and effort you put into the videos a lot. Keep up the great work!
@BanjaxRF
@BanjaxRF 2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely, without question, the best analysis videos for cycling, anywhere. You guys are peerless. Keep doing what you’re doing. Amazing content.
@annettewillis2797
@annettewillis2797 2 жыл бұрын
Great highlights and analysis. Keeps getting better and better! Thanks for all the hard work and grind in all the races!
@bertvanhoofstat7700
@bertvanhoofstat7700 2 жыл бұрын
When I saw the sprint I was thinking why does Laporte goes to the left and forces Wout to start his sprint so early. Wout said after the race that he made a major mistake but I'm glad that you clearly point out that Laporte made the mistake. He did a great job at keeping Wout in the front but his leadout was rookie.
@markdwelchforcongress4456
@markdwelchforcongress4456 2 жыл бұрын
Laporte may have made a mistake by not going on the barriers, but Wout made a mistake by leaving his wheel. If he follows Laporte - he wins. Laporte makes another mistake by sprinting even farther left - opening the door for Groenevegan.
@woudwilder8324
@woudwilder8324 2 жыл бұрын
@@markdwelchforcongress4456 I think Van Aert didn't feel comfortable going so far to the left so suddenly and therefor he decided to go early. Van Aert will never say that his teammate made a mistake, will always praise them, did the same yesterday when actually Laporte made a mistake there as well that cost him the win.
@stoneyyg
@stoneyyg 2 жыл бұрын
I feel like Laporte often still wants to sprint for himself like back at Cofidis, but i guess he will get better at leading out.
@mmmbass6068
@mmmbass6068 2 жыл бұрын
@@markdwelchforcongress4456 yes Wout even said if he held La Porte’s wheel a little longer he may have won. So much happening with so little time to make these decisions. Oh well - Wout will win sooner or later.
@steel050691
@steel050691 2 жыл бұрын
The best in depth analysis of stage race cycling; not just a Eurosport run through. Another great highlights package!
@santiagobenites
@santiagobenites 2 жыл бұрын
I came to KZbin wanting to find out what happened to Sagan to make him so angry with van Aert, and yours was the very first video that popped up. It looks like Sagan could have won if not taken to the barriers by van Aert. I don't blame him for being pissed off. Thank you, Lanterne Rouge, you're the best at what you do! Cheers!
@ethanblagg
@ethanblagg 2 жыл бұрын
Correct me if I misremember, but wasn't Sagan relegated for deviating into WVA's line last year, or the year before? I just remember being upset, granted I am a Sagan fanboy.
@urin1337
@urin1337 2 жыл бұрын
@@ethanblagg you are right
@alecsamberg1512
@alecsamberg1512 2 жыл бұрын
@@ethanblagg Year before, 2020. He should not have been relegated in my opinion.
@Rughead12319
@Rughead12319 2 жыл бұрын
@@ethanblagg I believe it was 2 yrs ago? Costing Sagan like 40 pts and giving Bennett more pts and helped lead to the end of Sagans Green Jersey dominance?
@Draregkoeliekalie
@Draregkoeliekalie 2 жыл бұрын
Im a fan of van Aert, but I think he deviated too much and shouldve been placed last yesterday.
@jacksyee
@jacksyee 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly and it’s a huge deal - Sagan moves into third, Wout loses the green jersey pts and Sagan and Wout much closer int he green rankings. I love both these riders but a Sagan fight for the green would be a great TDF
@shaynedimmer1680
@shaynedimmer1680 2 жыл бұрын
Caleb would have passed Sagan
@fccyclingtristan
@fccyclingtristan 2 жыл бұрын
@@shaynedimmer1680 True but you can't undo that What you can do is unclassify WVA
@schuey999
@schuey999 2 жыл бұрын
Peter will fight back!
@rado1212
@rado1212 2 жыл бұрын
Sagan was pointing at WVA. He told Slovak media that he’s not going to comment on the sprint and that everyone should have a look and make a judgment themselves.
@dannyh8288
@dannyh8288 2 жыл бұрын
Its obvious WVA did not hold his lane and drifted into Sagans lane.
@cadaver1ne635
@cadaver1ne635 2 жыл бұрын
Clean sprint from WvA 💯.
@dragoclarke9497
@dragoclarke9497 2 жыл бұрын
I did. And Sagan is just a whinging bully and sore loser.
@kkralovskey
@kkralovskey 2 жыл бұрын
@@cadaver1ne635 its just not right seeing the word "clean" wit the name Wout van Aert. In any meaning whatsoever.
@cadaver1ne635
@cadaver1ne635 2 жыл бұрын
@@kkralovskey if you look at Sagan bunch sprinting in the last 3years then you'll see some Nice dirty sprints. 2 years ago Sagan did alot more dirtyer sprint then wva yesterday. So yes wva sprint yesterday was a very clean nice sprint . Plus the barrières where not straight in the last 500m.
@delladog
@delladog 2 жыл бұрын
Great video I don't see these finer points when I watch the race live and even the commentators don't see it, so many thanks great video, please keep it up, you are really adding to my enjoyment of the TDF
@davemojarra4734
@davemojarra4734 2 жыл бұрын
Bob and Phil explained the situation during today's(Stage 4) race.
@icollectstories5702
@icollectstories5702 2 жыл бұрын
VeloNews cites happiness: Peter Sagan's team says they are happy that he is upset. Sagan says he is happy to be in one piece and that there is a race jury to judge these things. So, no, that wasn't "Congratulations."
@katrinagwen
@katrinagwen 2 жыл бұрын
OUTSTANDING analysis of this stage 3 highlights, very professionally done! NBC Sports should hire you asap.
@BlueSoulTiger
@BlueSoulTiger 2 жыл бұрын
Yuk, I hope not. LR too good for them. "Freelancing" is the word of the day.
@FreeMTrider
@FreeMTrider 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent analysis! Thank you for all of your coverage.
@johndarcey
@johndarcey 2 жыл бұрын
Mate, you are just such an authority. Absolutely love your analysis. Bravo bravo.
@christopherconyers767
@christopherconyers767 2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely love the jomboy shoutout 😂 gonna need a collab vid from my two favorite creators
@tomragaert7350
@tomragaert7350 2 жыл бұрын
We all know what he said ^^ - I was impressed by your analysis of the final crash impacting Caruso, Haig, etc. Neither Sporza nor Eurosport mentioned that narrowing of the road with the ripple effect down the peloton. Nice catch!
@johnbouttell5827
@johnbouttell5827 2 жыл бұрын
Hi LR, a great analysis. More please. Best wishes, John
@livelife153
@livelife153 2 жыл бұрын
Really nice breakdown! This took some work and incredible to watch as an ex racer. Thank you
@alvaroparra2292
@alvaroparra2292 2 жыл бұрын
thank you! you’re the best in the business!
@PeterLarsenJr
@PeterLarsenJr 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for your analysis of this. I watched it live on Peacock. I couldn’t figure out why Peter Sagan was upset. Once again, you have answered my question. Brilliant analysis.
@0ldw3lshm4n
@0ldw3lshm4n 2 жыл бұрын
I was surprised Adam Blyth nor McEwan on GCN mentioned WVA line. Ewan was also finishing fast, he and Sagan were on right side with plenty of room until WVA veered right.
@Tomanart
@Tomanart 2 жыл бұрын
Fantastic analysis, well done
@theoforde-stiegler
@theoforde-stiegler 2 жыл бұрын
Not sure what I would do without your analysis on stages I had to miss. Thanks Patrick‼️
@PhilipMelchiors
@PhilipMelchiors 2 жыл бұрын
Great analysis. Thanks. An insane sprint from Jaspersen.
@hollysykes6101
@hollysykes6101 2 жыл бұрын
Sure, Jaspersen 😅
@gabriellove8528
@gabriellove8528 2 жыл бұрын
Lololol
@AdamMartinVanMinh
@AdamMartinVanMinh 2 жыл бұрын
Cippolini and Abdujaparov were in the mix too.
@gerbenvanderbliek7448
@gerbenvanderbliek7448 2 жыл бұрын
He did well, but no match for Dylanwegen this time
@motrock93b
@motrock93b 2 жыл бұрын
Laporte did a great job leading out two sprinters. First Wout, then he kept pulling hard for Philipsen.
@pinescity6334
@pinescity6334 2 жыл бұрын
go for it peter. your legs are now calibrating its power for tdf 2022 we hope you the best as sprint world champ. from philippines. it is the team TEN that will elevate you once again as the champ.
@EgeBerkGonul
@EgeBerkGonul 2 жыл бұрын
I think Laporte assumed that Morkov was going to move to barriers, so he decided to move left. But since Morkov moved to left, Laporte and Van Aert had to pass him from different sides, which led Van Aert lose Laporte's wheel. Laporte attacked to lead out Van Aert again, but as Van Aert had already started his sprint the moment he lost Laporte's wheel, so they could not meet again.
@SorenCicchini
@SorenCicchini 2 жыл бұрын
I think so, too, and Morkov looking over his right shoulder with 300 m to go reinforced his idea that going left was the correct move at that time to get a half second jump on his sprint with his man on his wheel and no other leadout train in sight. It's hard to fault him for this.
@jonathaneffemey4892
@jonathaneffemey4892 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for posting.
@fcanderson4883
@fcanderson4883 2 жыл бұрын
Love your attitude like your Channel and yes the release of your videos better since you moved from Australia and by your commentary sounds like you're enjoying it thus far
@Comerelaxandlearn
@Comerelaxandlearn 2 жыл бұрын
Great analysis. Love the callout boxes to identify riders
@davidd1492
@davidd1492 2 жыл бұрын
If the UCI applied there rules to all teams instead of hand picking who they apply penalties to, they would have relegated WVA. The rules clearly state that once you start your sprint you should no deviate from your line and endanger another rider. Blind Freddy could see WVA did both, front on you could see he deviated nearly 5m from when he started the sprint and nearly put Sagan into the barrier. While the UCI pick and choose who they want to apply rules to, it is only a matter of time before there is another incident like Jakobsen and Groenewegen.
@Draregkoeliekalie
@Draregkoeliekalie 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed and im a fan of van Aert and Jumbo.
@ronroman3536
@ronroman3536 2 жыл бұрын
Totally agree. If Sagan’s and WVA’s positions and lines were reversed, Sagan definitely would have been regulated. I hate the inconsistency of the application of the rules.
@PtWhiteBelt
@PtWhiteBelt 2 жыл бұрын
@@ronroman3536 come on. Sagan is always headbutting and elbowing competitors in the bunch Sprint. How often is he relegated again?
@AndrewFrink
@AndrewFrink 2 жыл бұрын
the best thing the UCI could do is paint lanes starting at 250 meters in dashes and then solid lines at 100 meters. cross a solid = religation, impede someone by crossing a dashed = religation
@Jan_ne
@Jan_ne 2 жыл бұрын
Dainese would have won if DSM didn't mistake the 4km marker for the Flamme Rouge
@mattiaswieland8588
@mattiaswieland8588 2 жыл бұрын
Great analysis once again, it adds so much depth to the highlights footage. Was especially impressed with the explanation of how a small movement at the front caused a big crash at the back.
@Pre_industrial
@Pre_industrial 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this bro.
@wagerecht1707
@wagerecht1707 2 жыл бұрын
LR observations and conclusion about Sagan's reaction are correct imo. WvA is not holding his line.
@Mgoblagulkablong
@Mgoblagulkablong 2 жыл бұрын
Sagan said "Don't you dare fok smash the door on me like that!"
@andyawesome2842
@andyawesome2842 2 жыл бұрын
All the time you have to leave the space!
@Will-sv9mf
@Will-sv9mf 2 жыл бұрын
@@andyawesome2842 ALL DA TIME U HAVE TO LEAVE DA SPACE
@tillk99
@tillk99 2 жыл бұрын
its a yoke
@yayo41
@yayo41 2 жыл бұрын
sagan went for that last chicken like torpedo
@lordofthemound3890
@lordofthemound3890 2 жыл бұрын
Immediately after the pointing incident, Sagan patted van Aert on the shoulder as if to say, “Sorry, heat of the moment.”
@mcass777
@mcass777 2 жыл бұрын
Great insight- awesome detail. Can you try to slow down a pinch with your delivery? So many names flying by and they can become jumbled. Your race recap is great, just help me keep it all clear!
@ericchanningbrewer975
@ericchanningbrewer975 2 жыл бұрын
I think it's on us to try and keep up and process it quickly!
@Nytaarsfyrvaerkeri
@Nytaarsfyrvaerkeri 2 жыл бұрын
Its has been a pleasure to have the tour France in Denmark. What a party! 🥳🇩🇰
@ankjaers
@ankjaers 2 жыл бұрын
It was a blast being in the crowd for that stage
@johnb5482
@johnb5482 2 жыл бұрын
My son and I have noticed the many Danish flags flying along the race routes.
@ebmurphy8744
@ebmurphy8744 2 жыл бұрын
you're good hombre! keep it coming
@dtwrx
@dtwrx 2 жыл бұрын
These are awesome! When GCN and NBC offer you a contract to commentate, don’t sell out. Creative license is worth more than whatever they’re going to offer.
@adventureout-brief6836
@adventureout-brief6836 2 жыл бұрын
@7:50 “I ain’t the cycling Jonboy” I busted out 😆!
@normal_norm2627
@normal_norm2627 2 жыл бұрын
Magnus Cort ate it up in his home country..... love it. MVDP on the other hand doesn't seem to have the same mojo as last year.
@stoempert
@stoempert 2 жыл бұрын
You expected more in the TT or for him to contest the bunch sprints?
@lukesb3025
@lukesb3025 2 жыл бұрын
The Wout van Aert sudden change was hectic! That traffic island!
@bfmatebu9632
@bfmatebu9632 2 жыл бұрын
Best analysis for TdF
@tonilauge5786
@tonilauge5786 2 жыл бұрын
Eew Fabio you screwed that Up! And Mørkhøj didnt noticed. First 3 Days went Well in Denmark. A Lot of spectators how remembered To take Brain with them proud of that. IT wont last in France😜🔝❤️
@MoOutdoorsandReviews
@MoOutdoorsandReviews 2 жыл бұрын
great commentary, I was wondering what happened there
@kjaime7030
@kjaime7030 2 жыл бұрын
"I'm not a great lip reader. I ain't the cycling Jomboy." Love it. Edited to add: I just posted your vid to his FB page. Maybe he'll help out.
@hammerhiem75
@hammerhiem75 2 жыл бұрын
When a guy doing Baseball reactions is so famous he makes it onto European cycling, love it.
@peterwilliams4456
@peterwilliams4456 2 жыл бұрын
You missed the awesome ride by Grondahl Jansen. His ride from 1.2km to 0.8 is what won Groenewegen the stage.
@louislambert7850
@louislambert7850 2 жыл бұрын
Pogacar almost lost the Tour because of the crash behind him. The whole ineos team was in front of the race and would certainly have accelerated if he had fallen. 10 km from the finish, he would have lost several minutes.
@11-inch
@11-inch 2 жыл бұрын
It doesn’t matter he’ll still drop them on the climbs, don’t see anyone taking another tdf title off Pogi this year
@sean7098
@sean7098 2 жыл бұрын
@@11-inch You think Pogacar will win by minutes against TJV?
@adventuresona700dollarhard5
@adventuresona700dollarhard5 2 жыл бұрын
WVA threw the race f’ing around with Sagan, who probably didn’t have the legs to get around him. We’re not going to talk about Jakobsen’s move from nowhereland to the second line? He was absolutely flying.
@stoempert
@stoempert 2 жыл бұрын
Pretty clear Jakobsen is the fastest guy out there.
@c-record
@c-record 2 жыл бұрын
WVA should have been regulated otherwise nothing has changed since the Jacobsen-Groenewegen incident. Hold your line, sprint straight, period. In today's sprinting 'the sqeeze' should be banned.
@MDP1702
@MDP1702 2 жыл бұрын
Wout stopped deviating before it became dangerous, but the barriers were weirdly placed here, creating larger and thighter spaces one after another. If Wout's was dangerous for Sagan, he'd be behind Wout at the finishline, not beside him.
@c-record
@c-record 2 жыл бұрын
@@MDP1702 wrong. WVA saw Sagan coming inside so he moved over more.
@MDP1702
@MDP1702 2 жыл бұрын
@@c-record Wout already started moving right when Sagan still had to make his move, so that is incorrect.
@hutchy_4297
@hutchy_4297 2 жыл бұрын
@@MDP1702 you need to watch this again. Sagan had to bump him twice to keep him from pushing him into the barrier. Any other rider probably gets seriously injured in this situation
@jonasvermijl7100
@jonasvermijl7100 2 жыл бұрын
Sagan fan boys.. wout didt nothing wrong.
@Wextopher
@Wextopher 2 жыл бұрын
After the finger wag and whatever words Sagan issued, he can be seen patting Wout van Aert on the shoulder in a congratulatory manor as he passes as they roll out past the finish line. Much calmer and appearing to be of good sport. That would be from NBC footage. Haven't GCN'd yet. Watching your analysis of the pileup was eye opening. Am a fan of your work and insight!
@mental9mikey
@mental9mikey 2 жыл бұрын
Thoughts with everyone affected in Copenhagen 😢
@sneakyfox4651
@sneakyfox4651 2 жыл бұрын
Cycling enthusiast Dane here. Thanks. Looks like Denmark just had its first "real" mass shooting. It happened in the Fields shopping center in southern Copenhagen. Latest news say several deaths, but no numbers yet. Also some wounded, but no words on their condition. A 22 year old white male has been arrested as the prime suspect. (Edited for bad grammar).
@drunkensailor112
@drunkensailor112 2 жыл бұрын
🤮🤮
@mental9mikey
@mental9mikey 2 жыл бұрын
@@drunkensailor112 what?
@drunkensailor112
@drunkensailor112 2 жыл бұрын
@@mental9mikey why comment about that here? Trying to score some morality points?
@mental9mikey
@mental9mikey 2 жыл бұрын
@@drunkensailor112 not at all. The country just had its greatest sporting show in a generation overshadowed by something horrific. We’re cycling fans who’ve loved the Danish road side scenes, full of people who may now be in shock at what happened. Seems entirely appropriate to show sympathy on a cycling channel given the circumstances.
@pep_jay
@pep_jay 2 жыл бұрын
They should draw some lines on the pavement in the last 150/200 m to make sprints clearer.. like in an arhletics track... for the straight line to be absolutely clear
@MDP1702
@MDP1702 2 жыл бұрын
Apparently the problem might be increased danger if it the ground gets wet and the lines thus slippery. But yes, some kind of system like that could help.
@anklepick9524
@anklepick9524 2 жыл бұрын
That's how it is in skiing. Coming in to the sprint you have to chose a lane.
@404nobrakes
@404nobrakes 2 жыл бұрын
@@MDP1702 if it's a straight line sprint, that's hardly an issue. Plus, they can use thin, temporary paint that doesn't clog the road. It's not like a crosswalk that has to survive for years. I agree that painted sprint lines need to be a thing. Sprinters frequently put their heads down, so they don't really know where they're going.
@MDP1702
@MDP1702 2 жыл бұрын
@@404nobrakes *if it's a straight line sprint, that's hardly an issue.* Wrong, because someones can always get out of the wheel of someone else (late) and someone can also start his sprint so close to one of the lines he'd be sprinting on it.
@danfuerthgillis4483
@danfuerthgillis4483 2 жыл бұрын
Jesus 64 km hr there must be zero winds and no air pressure at all there. Where I live here as soon as you reach 45 km hr your helmet is being ripped off your head it feels like a hurricane closer to 50 km hr which is only possible using at TT bike. Wish I was back in Europe at 800 meters, right now I am at 150 meters which sucks for speeds, specially when you ride solo with 30+ km hr cross winds. Good video here and awesome breakdown.
@MarkRadcliffe
@MarkRadcliffe 2 жыл бұрын
Wout swerved a good 8 feet off his line. Amateur hour from such a top tier rider. He owes Sagan a beer. 😎
@pierg5257
@pierg5257 2 жыл бұрын
a TDF Victory more than a beer.. :D
@utboos
@utboos 2 жыл бұрын
Heat of the moment - i would buy them both beers - intense competition is great to watch -
@holctomaz2562
@holctomaz2562 2 жыл бұрын
The 2020 flashbacks of Pogačar using the TJV train
@bobo-ph6xm
@bobo-ph6xm 2 жыл бұрын
Rogla's fans worst nightmare deja vue...😱😱😱
@charlesleeray1784
@charlesleeray1784 2 жыл бұрын
Fair play to WVA, he really knows how to deviate just enough to not cause damage and have some fools defend him in the comment section. If Sagan doesn't know how to use his elbows to protect himself and doesn't have superb bike handling, it will surely end with a crash. Clear relegation, but we know how UCI works- no harm, no foul. I have no way to confirm this but in my mind Sagan pointed at WVA, pat him on his back and said "I'm glad Dylan won by the space you created".
@commentsenabled7983
@commentsenabled7983 2 жыл бұрын
Wrong- WVA did not hold his line- not holding your line should be a violation and relegation for Wout- I'm not sure Sagan would have won, but he would move up a placing in the event of the relegation and he is gunning for green like Wout.
@malinwa4ever315
@malinwa4ever315 2 жыл бұрын
@@commentsenabled7983 crybaby Sagan is the dirtiest of them all
@MarshallGA12
@MarshallGA12 2 жыл бұрын
@@malinwa4ever315 wrong, dirtiest sprinter in last 2 decades is Cavendish by far
@stuartguy4479
@stuartguy4479 2 жыл бұрын
Do you not think the slight wave on the barriers made the closing of the gap by WVA slightly exaggerated, looking at the helicopter shot the barriers appear to be not totally straight, just a thought
@aizins3420
@aizins3420 2 жыл бұрын
he said that in the video
@jamie4293
@jamie4293 2 жыл бұрын
Ya, it's like there are a couple places where the barriers bend in a few feet. Marginal at best. Good eye.
@Fattimithy
@Fattimithy 2 жыл бұрын
best reference youtube reference Ive heard in a while: " Im not the cycling Jomboy" - that you are not,..... but you could be!
@lolzold4
@lolzold4 2 жыл бұрын
I 100% thought Sagan was pointing at who won. It did feel like Wout deviated a bit to the right during the sprint, seemed to me like he would've won it if he went straight.
@MrXNITROx
@MrXNITROx 2 жыл бұрын
I thought he was pointing at who won also, so did the chaps on itv
@Barrien
@Barrien 2 жыл бұрын
Jomboy x LR cross-over when? Literally my two favorite sports youtubers.
@zackyeye
@zackyeye 2 жыл бұрын
Was constantly monitoring YT for today's recap to be uploaded. Would love to hear the audio of what he said. In the defense of the broadcasters, after watching the sprint finish live, I 100% though sagan was angry because of Wout moving over and ruining his chances, but in the slomo replay of Sagan shouting and pointing he does have kind of a smile on his face when he says whatever he says, and then 10 seconds later goes and pats Wout on the back?
@ibilyy
@ibilyy 2 жыл бұрын
that was more of a sarcastic congrats - "you did again, dude, good job"
@0anant0
@0anant0 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe he said: "tomorrow is rest day, let us make a little party' :-)
@amadeusguy1009
@amadeusguy1009 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks goodness - LR does this sprint analysis. Otherwise, we wouldn't know what happened.
@bbm6993
@bbm6993 2 жыл бұрын
If Sagan did this to other riders it will be instant relegation.
@MarshallGA12
@MarshallGA12 2 жыл бұрын
last year Morkov intentionally blocked Sagan on intermediate sprint and of course nothing happend - no penalty for him... some teams, riders can do anything without being penalized... and some riders are disqualified at the first opportunity... dirty politics
@pierg5257
@pierg5257 2 жыл бұрын
@@MarshallGA12 unfortunatly i absolutly agree...
@Mgoblagulkablong
@Mgoblagulkablong 2 жыл бұрын
how did Wout not get relegated, if that is not a deviation, what is...
@wolfzeev3376
@wolfzeev3376 2 жыл бұрын
If he wins probably Or crashes someone else
@MDP1702
@MDP1702 2 жыл бұрын
Deviation, but not dangerous enough, the fact Sagan finishes beside him, not after him means there still was enough of a gap. But looking at it, barriers did a kind of 'wave' pattern creating safe and more dangerous thight spots, which isn't Wouts fault.
@CraigRyan
@CraigRyan 2 жыл бұрын
I defer to your knowledge, but I don't think PS was pointing at WVA. For a rider like PS there was a clear line, a larger one than he would have left.
@thebigbristolian
@thebigbristolian 2 жыл бұрын
I think Sagan was saying to Wout, 'hey, constantly coming 2nd on Tour stages is my job!'
@SorenCicchini
@SorenCicchini 2 жыл бұрын
I think you really do Sagan a disservice by saying that he divebombed that final corner. It looked to me that he simply chose the correct line and made everyone else look like amateurs. He didn't exit the corner hard up against the barriers and was pedalling almost immediately after the apex. Do you think that he impeded anyone?
@franco7928
@franco7928 2 жыл бұрын
Looked pretty smooth to me 👌
@aarons2848
@aarons2848 2 жыл бұрын
“The cycling Jomboy…” 😂 What a weird channel crossover reference, but I love it!
@Fyr35555
@Fyr35555 2 жыл бұрын
Sagan got lucky he didn't crash, as you can see the barriers aren't straight and stick out in places. If he hadn't held his ground he could have easily been taken out like coincidentally what happened between him and Cavendish a few years ago!
@hutchy_4297
@hutchy_4297 2 жыл бұрын
It’s not luck
@jacobkujawa5532
@jacobkujawa5532 2 жыл бұрын
Did not expect a jomboy reference but loved that it happened
@archanarajansingh
@archanarajansingh 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@DK_BKLF
@DK_BKLF 2 жыл бұрын
Sagan he is going to take a win this tour
@charlyncorgan1954
@charlyncorgan1954 2 жыл бұрын
I came to see what you would say about WVA's possible deviation. I don't trust my eyes and wanted to be sure I saw correctly. I figured no relegation since no one was hurt, but the lack of consistency from the UCI is very evident. Thanks, Patrick!
@Stevenafoe
@Stevenafoe 2 жыл бұрын
If the uci was consistent, they should have taken points from sagan because of his elbows and pushing past two stages. He still had some space..
@charlyncorgan1954
@charlyncorgan1954 2 жыл бұрын
@@Stevenafoe totally agree.
@malinwa4ever315
@malinwa4ever315 2 жыл бұрын
Sagan is the most dangerous rider from te peloton lol Hypocrite
@user-vo1xn3rf5j
@user-vo1xn3rf5j 2 жыл бұрын
Ewan was also boxed in with a lot of speed on him
@pedalpatrol
@pedalpatrol 2 жыл бұрын
but again not Sagans fault he had to move to the right due to Wva deviation so... a clear relegation and he should get a penalty for that!
@HappyPorcupine
@HappyPorcupine 2 жыл бұрын
Ewan is always boxed in as of late
@carlosflanders518
@carlosflanders518 2 жыл бұрын
@@HappyPorcupine The risk you take when you're freelancing and relying on a catlike jump. Get boxed in or try to pass on the barriers. Always more risky.
@ChrisCapoccia
@ChrisCapoccia 2 жыл бұрын
sagan's been in enough world tour sprints to know the jury is going to let this situation slide
@dannyh8288
@dannyh8288 2 жыл бұрын
Yes you are right....but that doesn't make it right. WVA should be penalized even though I do like him.
@johnfekete
@johnfekete 2 жыл бұрын
"I ain't the cycling Jomboy". Pure gold.
@Ashok_Regiment
@Ashok_Regiment 2 жыл бұрын
Sagan was right to be upset and a demotion for Van Aert wouldn't have been unreasonable.
@user-bz9ld2go3g
@user-bz9ld2go3g 2 жыл бұрын
I’m a Sagan fan but he did the same to Ewen
@Draregkoeliekalie
@Draregkoeliekalie 2 жыл бұрын
He didnt have a choice. Sagan does anlot wrong, but squeezing Ewan in to the barriers because he was getting squeezed into the barrier is not his fault
@pal_lokomotivet2679
@pal_lokomotivet2679 2 жыл бұрын
Dont agree. There was very little space there and W didnt change. Sagan tried to go where there was no room and interfered with W costing him the victory
@Eagleagle
@Eagleagle 2 жыл бұрын
Wout did with Sagan what Sagan always did with others…
@stoempert
@stoempert 2 жыл бұрын
Wout apparently can do no wrong, Belgian commentators have such a blindspot they automatically assumed Sagan was pointing to Groenewegen 🙈 The jury should be more strict to avoid nasty crashes.
@Draregkoeliekalie
@Draregkoeliekalie 2 жыл бұрын
Yeh lol they were like why is Sagan mad... If this wasnt Sagan than van Aert wouldve been relegated I think. Sagan is the most aggresive rider of them all so he cant really complain. At 1.2km to he uswd his hands twice vs a rider from Alpecin. He is the last one to complain Still van Aert shouldve been dq'd in dayresult.
@pawneveryknight
@pawneveryknight 2 жыл бұрын
Jasper’s sprint was monstrous alright
@philc9305
@philc9305 2 жыл бұрын
Side question- I know sprinters are not supposed to deviate from their lines but what about the leadoff guys? Are they expected to hold there line as well, wouldnt that block their sprinter at times. Is there a distance from the finish where line change is allowable?
@clementdenis4212
@clementdenis4212 2 жыл бұрын
You can deviate if you are slowing down I guess
@maximefornasari4110
@maximefornasari4110 2 жыл бұрын
@@clementdenis4212 that's even more dangerous
@PatrickLino
@PatrickLino 2 жыл бұрын
Where the heck was Sagan's lead-out train!???
@matthias8140
@matthias8140 2 жыл бұрын
Clear deviation but like usual without consequences because nobody crashes
@MarshallGA12
@MarshallGA12 2 жыл бұрын
and also because the current superstar Van Aert is fighting for his first green jersey... if he were to fight for the seventh GJ against the Frenchman, he would definitely be penalized...
@pierg5257
@pierg5257 2 жыл бұрын
depends who... :)
@11-inch
@11-inch 2 жыл бұрын
@@MarshallGA12 What superstar? WVA won nothing major, probably the most overated cyclist in the modern era.
@Narogir
@Narogir 2 жыл бұрын
@@11-inch hum the primavera it's nothing major? Sad story for a Monument.... but yes the surname Silverwout it's there for something.
@giovannispinotti
@giovannispinotti 2 жыл бұрын
Lanterne Rouge and Jomboy, and maybe Squidge Rugby too, the best sport analysis channels on KZbin!
@willross5108
@willross5108 2 жыл бұрын
Not sure if that was enough deviation from Wout, a non-call on that one I guess.
@user-hk3zm8tm3h
@user-hk3zm8tm3h 2 жыл бұрын
I don't think Sagan's gesture is to Wout, rather it means: look, while you was fighting with me, you opened the door for him to win and he won...
@gregorcerjak7607
@gregorcerjak7607 2 жыл бұрын
The stills from 1:19 are pure art
@leighsymons5619
@leighsymons5619 2 жыл бұрын
You should be on the SBS commentary team, which in my mind, is one of the best there is world sport. I wonder if others think the same?
@mattjones1378
@mattjones1378 2 жыл бұрын
Looked like Sagan lost the edge and got spooked by the wall. He had room. The Sagan of liquidgas Cannondale would have sprinted through there and a incredible hulk celebration
@someinconsequentialusernam7799
@someinconsequentialusernam7799 2 жыл бұрын
You do know how many times Sagan’s been punished for doing that, right? He got kicked out a few years ago for something that was arguably the other rider’s fault. That’s why he hesitated, here. He could’ve pushed WVA, but knew he’d be relegated for it.
@coopaloopmex
@coopaloopmex 2 жыл бұрын
LOL Jomboy Media gets the shoutout @7:48. Classy move Lanterne Rouge
@charlieruehl8589
@charlieruehl8589 2 жыл бұрын
It was so funny how the nbc guys thought Sagan was pointing at Grounewegen to congratulate him for winning the sprint
@hutchy_4297
@hutchy_4297 2 жыл бұрын
That’s what I think and I wasn’t listening to them
@pinarellolimoncello
@pinarellolimoncello 2 жыл бұрын
Great break down and commentary , thanks, would have been impossible to spot at normal speed. Very strong field but still need to parachute in Mark Cavendish to restore full integrity to any sprint victory.
@sldulin
@sldulin 2 жыл бұрын
getting to be an element of 'working the umps' in these remonstrations. They have to know if they don't relegate they will be accused of being partial. 100% guarantee that without Peter's pointing absolutely no one would be talking about this.
@ktakashismith
@ktakashismith 2 жыл бұрын
That's just asinine, this was probably one of the largest line deviations in a mass sprint this year. I think the correct assessment is that people are 100% willing to pretend like it's not a big deal because it was Wout who did the chopping. If you want to see someone "working the umps", watch Cavendish throwing a shit-fit because Richeze moved 1m to the right in Tour of Oman Stage 6.
@someinconsequentialusernam7799
@someinconsequentialusernam7799 2 жыл бұрын
Did you see the same sprint the rest of us did? van Aert almost drove Sagan into the barriers. An honest fan is going to mention it because it’s so blatantly obvious.
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