Why Was Wormtail In Gryffindor? [Harry Potter Explained]

Today Ben dives into the Wizarding World of Harry Potter to answer an age old question: Why was Peter Pettigrew AKA Wormtail sorted into Gryffindor?!
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[@ikerramirez2910]

ok yay

[@onedankboidaniel1073]

i cant join them

[@Mary_Studios]

Moldavort for ever!

[@sXe.Opinion]

Ok. I will. Maybe

[@anaandrade1073]

Definitely going to try to join again. Wish me luck :)

[@durian830317]

hey, sorting hat, how about this house called "Azkaban"

[@melissadunphy1420]

Lol

[@renlikesturtles]

that house should’ve existed when Umbridge was there.

[@Ash-zp7ey]

@@renlikesturtles ikr

[@bompscout3987]

How about the house call: Nothing

[@theviking1359]

Gotta wait till the person commits the crime

[@Jamie-fw3kz]

I feel like when the hat can’t decide he’s like, Gryffindor!

[@TheKabuto90]

...All of the hat stalls and near hat stalls have ultimately been Gryffindor haven't they? I didn't even make the connection until it was spelled out for me.

[@freddymeng]

@Branson Ritter so you say, but this evidence clearly proves otherwise

[@totallycrazystudios1801]

Ikr

[@joshuadesautels]

I thought that was Hufflepuff.

[@Lillith.]

Both true hatstalls resulted in Gryffindor. The 5 near hatstalls were Flitwick, Lockhart, Hermione, Neville and Harry. 2 Ravenclaws, 3 Gryffindors. We don't know about more, but there probably were.

[@rayrowley4013]

“There wasn't a single witch or wizard who went bad who wasn't in Slytherin” ..... Except when there was...

[@jlwiseman98]

Quirril and Lockhart were in ravenclaw so yep.

[@sarabellin8628]

"There wasn't a single witch or wizard who went bad that wasn't in Slytherin, except this rat in my pocket" I know there were others, but still

[@xenothyst]

yea you are right, tom riddle aka he-who-shall-not-be-named or you-know-who

[@Trickstres]

I just see that line as Hagrid being prejudice just because he's an adult doesn't mean he's right, also maybe a bum living in a shed being told he's not allowed a dragon doesn't like bureaucrats at all

[@noorykorky5056]

Also, Leta Lestrange was one of the only Slytherins whose characters we actually got to explore that effectively never turned towards the dark side or showed very little to no signs of prejudice; in fact, she spent her entire short life regretting/being remorseful of a mistake she made at 8 years old.

[@Psycoman2012]

I always thought that all Gryffindors were in Gryffindor for the same reason: bravery is not a character trait. Bravery is a choice to not give into fear. Being sorted into Gryffindor means you have a potential for great bravery, but it doesnt necessarily mean you aren't afraid. I always thought that Peter failed.

[@lmla2022]

👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼

[@And-lj5gb]

Not that I disagree with the point you're making but if bravery is not a character trait, then how do you name the character trait that represents a tendency to "not give into fear" and make "brave" choices?

[@Psycoman2012]

Well And, that's what the sorting hat quantifies when it judges you as brave, is your potential. That's why despite being probably better suited to Ravenclaw and Hufflepuff, Hermione and Neville were sorted into Gryffindor. Their great potential bravery allowed them to exemplify the valor and honor that Gryffindor sought in his students, despite wisdom and loyalty being more key to their characters. This is why in the end Peter was a Gryffindor. He has a lot of situations presented to him that if he had chosen to not give into fear, he would have been as impactful as Neville's are when he chooses not to give in.

[@Psycoman2012]

I guess it's probably just easier to call all of that mess "bravery" than having to explicitly write it out.

[@me5969]

I’d personally definitely consider it a character trait along the same lines as cunning, ambition, loyalty ect. Intelligence is actually the one I’d say is just a genetic precipitation. Be like calling muscle mass or testosterone a character trait. Aside from that another trait for gryffindor is chivalry/honour so which I would also class as a character trait thus indicating its just a house of “sod it, you go there”.

[@hugogamboas.5550]

Peter: *sits* McGonagall: “so what house is it, hat?” Hat: “no”

[@Pato-us5db]

lel

[@YesMrGoose]

lel

[@dannythemysterious8221]

McGonagall: Now Hat: *whimpers* please no

[@hugogamboas.5550]

Danny the Mysterious you know how Harry was all worried that the hat would tell him that it was a mistake, that he wasn’t actually a wizard? Well peter should’ve been scared.

[@michaelgarcia5437]

Hat: Idk CAN YOU STOP

[@RangerRuby]

The Harry Potter theories have been on fire lately, like for real tho...

[@epicevie]

Ikr, and I love it

[@redmadman8567]

The exact oposite. I haven't seen almost any HP theories in quite a while. And I'm subscribed to both the Carlin Brothers AND Seamus Gorman

[@diegoespinosa1073]

@@redmadman8567 Isn't everybody who is subbed to Seamus also subbed to SuperCarlinBrothers.

[@sleepdoesnotexist.14]

Red Mad Man how? The Carlin brothers have been releasing so many hp theories for the past few weeks....Seamus has been a little quiet lately but he has been releasing other theories

[@Ranger1812]

*though

[@jonbilgutay2]

I think Wormtail is a 'cowardly lion'. He Does have the potential to be great, but his abilities are eclipsed by his fear.

[@batman2330]

Just like Neville but he over come his fear

[@TV-ly3dp]

@@batman2330 And chops the head off of a Hourcrux Snake so they definetly went in different paths

[@ChromaWRLD999]

@@TV-ly3dp On one hand, we have Neville, Parents Tortured Into Insanity By Death Eaters, Raised By His Grandmother, Hopeless At Magic, Almost A Squib, But Overcomes His Cowardly Nature And Blows Up A Bridge, Fights And Kills Death Eaters, And Kills A Snake That Can Only Be Killed By Three Things (Said Things Being Basilisk Venom, FiendFyre And *Avada Kedavra!*) And On The Other Hand, We Have Wormtail. Hopeless At Magic, Cowardly, And A Snivelling Rat (Literally). Wormtail However, Does Not Overcome His Fear And Suddenly Become Hot, He Surrounds Himself With The Most Talented Wizards He Could Find, Such As James Potter And Sirius Black. He Is Then Turned Into Secret Keeper For Lily And James Potter. 6 Days Later, Wormtail Betrays The Potter’s Location To The Dark Lord. Because He Wanted To Surround Himself With The Most Powerful People. And Lord Voldemort, While Not The Strongest Wizard Ever, Is Definitely Number 2 Or 3, Depending On Whether You Consider Grindelwald In His Prime More Powerful Than Lord Voldemort Or Not.

[@noorykorky5056]

Also, Ben Carlin: "In his case it's not what House GETS Pettigrew; it's what House is STUCK with him." Honestly, Ben, you made my day.

[@melissad7778]

I always felt that Wormtail and Neville were mirrors of each other. Similar to how Harry and Neville are juxtaposed throughout the series. Wormtail is a character who is filled with fear and continually feeds those fears until he commits unbelievable atrocities. Neville is a character filled with fear who works hard to overcome it and take action until he does unbelievably brave and important feats. They both are placed GH (though they both could have been in other houses) but Wormtail ultimately failed to live up to these attributes by never trying to conquer his fear and running away from it.

[@MTech07]

I will only add something that no one mentions the difference between James and Harry. I'm not saying that James was a bad person, but he didn't encourage Pettigrew the way Harry did with Neville. Harry was a live example of how someone should be, and that reflects a bit what Hermione sometimes told Harry to apply with Kreacher. That ultimately the lack of patience and love that caused the reaction against Sirius. It happens to us in life in general.

[@kaenachoo4783]

I believe this has been said before, but Harry’s friends all represent someone from the Marauders era. Harry of course being James, Ron being Sirius, Hermione being Remus, Neville being Wormtail, Ginny being Lily, and Luna being Snape. Harry and his friends are all very similar to the marauders the except that they are the better versions of what the marauders should have been, or rather what they could have turned out like.

[@rebekahcyphus2364]

@@kaenachoo4783 So the kids in the golden era are the better versions of the marauders

[@PhilBagels]

@@kaenachoo4783 I don't see how Luna is Snape in this analogy. But a different thought occurs to me: If Voldy had chosen Neville instead of Harry, Neville would have turned out like Wormtail. Not really a "theory", just a speculation.

[@mschrisfrank2420]

PhilBagels SCB made a video about this that I believe was called “Luna is Snape” or something like that. It has to do with them both being bullied outcasts.

[@ahmetnumanduman8653]

One of the reasons Neville and Peter went for different directions is their friends. Harry would never treat Neville as James and Sirius treated Pettigrew. Harry helped Neville to find his inner strength and respected him while James and Sirius just enjoyed taking Pettigrew's admiration and make themselves feel better.

[@khadiisam26]

Good point

[@summer6100]

you can also compare Snape who was similar in a number of ways to wormtail but took a different path also

[@86upsmaya]

I thought that too. James n Sirius were actually bullies most of the time, Wormtail hid behind them for protection. When Voldemort became the biggest bully, the rat abandoned the ship and joined Voldemort. Meanwhile Harry (and sometimes Ron) n Hermione stood up against bullies and even encouraged Neville to do so from the very first year. Also, both the boys had iron clad reasons for not going over to the dark side, the fate of their parents.

[@c.atalina30]

I agree, completely. James and Sirius were right right gits. I absolutely despised them, and felt nothing when Sirius died. Severus Snape....Always...

[@undead.rising]

Yes - that's right... Harry, Ron, and especially Hermione wanted Neville to do well, and went out of their way to help him. James just relied on Peter to be his ultimate fanboy.

[@natebit7167]

So basically: Peter sucks and didn’t even belong to be in Hogwarts.

[@windhelmguard5295]

@@user-qy8kk8yx4q he is too bad at finding things to be a hufflepuff.

[@isola--]

Ya

[@LokiLoverForever99]

@@user-qy8kk8yx4q Um. Do you watch this channel properly? These guys are both Slytherins. Not every Slytherin was evil. AND Hufflepuffs are not dumb. Also remember that Peter was still an impressionable kid. If he had been placed in Hufflepuff he would have been surrounded by positivity and would of been a better person.

[@user-qy8kk8yx4q]

@@LokiLoverForever99 Sorry, but most villains of the series came from Slytherin, and there is no character from Slytherin which is just as good as the Gryffindor characters. If I'm not mistaken, the only villains who didn't come from Slytherin are Worm Tail and Lockhart, and even Lockhart isn't that evil. Your argument about Hufflepuff is also dumb, because Hufflepuff is simply the house for all those who have no trait to put in another house, or in other words, are not smart, evil , or Brave . The Sorting Hat even said it in her song in the first book.

[@user-qy8kk8yx4q]

By the way, judging by your name, you're a little biased, aren't you?

[@thisislydiarae]

I've always theorized that the hat sorted you based on what traits you VALUE the most, and not necessarily the ones you embody. Like, Hermionie and McGonnigal are both very intelligent, but believe courage is more important. Or how Nevile wants to be brave more than loyal or hardworking. Even Luna fits this; she may not value the traditional definition of wisdom, but rather the wisdom to understand that there are things we can't see or understand and that some things aren't worth worrying about.

[@BarneyBing883]

THIS!!! This was the comment I've been searching for. I honestly believe that the Sorting Hat focuses on personal values more than actual personality traits. Wish this idea was more well known.

[@heartsy2838]

True.

[@Vinvininhk]

"Can a man still be brave when he's afraid?" "That's the only time a man can be brave" - A Game of Thrones Perhaps Peter Pettigrew was sorted into Gryffindor because he has a lot of *potential* to be brave since he's scared of everything?

[@Juho.S.]

Good point.

[@roguechevelle]

And I think he makes a valid point in the video too that if you are scared of everything then the thing you would value most is bravery, peter just never rose to the challenge of obtaining the thing he most valued.

[@martinlabossiere]

Exactly! So obvious

[@charmandera5670]

Vinvininhk: Ohohohoooo... 100% He just failed at every single turn.

[@PhilBagels]

@@roguechevelle But he never shows that he even values bravery, let alone actually displaying bravery.

[@jett4077]

Y’all should do a series called “why you should never hire voldemort to plan your wedding” pointing out all the flaws in his plan

[@JuanMataCFC]

1. he's dead. 2. he doesn't really get the whole "love" thing. 3. his name is frikkin Moldevort! d'you really want him to bring trains to ur wedding?!!

[@AdiM-lq4bp]

They sort of did kzbin.info/www/bejne/mKnKd52wh7xpe6M

[@TrekBeatTK]

You mean besides the fact that love is his weakness?

[@biankasarakaszas1166]

"It's our choices that show what we truly are, far more than our abilities" said Dumbledore, and I think this quote sums up Peter's situation nicely. He was coward, but the Sorting Hat saw the possibility who he could become with the right people around him., and that is why he got sorted in Gryffindor (to learn courage, take risks, learn new things - e.g. he himself would never had the idea to learn Animagus transfiguration, which saves his life at least 3 times). Bravery comes in many forms. Peter made the wrong choices, maybe even with his friends, who never accepted him as a true equal.

[@klaudiagrob]

So it's James' fault that he befriended Peter who proven himself to be a human rat capable of betrayal? James, Sirius, and Remus had nothing to do with that. Many people are treated badly but their friends. James Sirius and Remus weren't only students in school. He could have easily befriended someone else. Or maybe even work on his own interpersonal skills. He was never their equal.

[@Mnkeys]

Disagree entirely with the ending. James trusted Peter enough to make him secret keeper after Sirius reccomended it. You don't casuslly make another person secret keeper, its still somebody you deeply trust. Did James&Sirius poke fun at Peter? Absolutely, probably more than they should early on. But they still befriended him. Shared with him how to be animagi, the marauders map, how they felt. They absolutely trusted and respected Peter.

[@thelegend1801]

I don't really agree with the ending. James and Sirius trusted Pettigrew enough to make him secret keeper, even when Dumbledore would be the obvious choice. That clearly shows they considered him worthy of a position Sirius had held. And he never was their equal, he couldn't perfectly describe a werewolf even after running around with one once a month. He had to be really thick for that.

[@syph3r_63]

Wormtail is so freaking extra. Like in the Graveyard scene, he cut off his WHOLE HAND! He could’ve just cut off a pinky but no, WHOLE HAND!

[@Goodbutevilgenius]

Cutting off a finger got old.

[@kung-tenghuang8144]

Imkantus hehe

[@Outis89]

How freaking sharp was that knife, though?

[@biowiener7825]

@@Outis89 it was...uh...a...magic knife?

[@sakshitawari2020]

Well.. in the books , lord voldemort mentions that you need 'flesh from an alliy .. in regular amounts'

[@jhardman1876]

Consider: If Pettigrew wasn't in Gryffindor, he wouldn't have become friends with James/Sirius/Remus, and it would have been impossible for him to betray them for Voldemort after he becomes a Secret Keeper. So if you think about it, the Sorting Hat kinda caused all that trouble.

[@nickt1417]

At the end of the day, I think that's why he's in Gryffindor, for the plot. JK Rowling wanted James's friend to betray him, and it wouldn't make sense for James to have a friend that was in Slytherin. I think Peter is in Gryffindor for the plot, not because JK Rowling looked at his characteristics and determined that he belongs in Gryffindor.

[@Javert89]

Now imagine, if he would have ended up in Slytherin he would have done something immensely brave causing everyone to question why he would not be in Gryffindor - sort that dilemma, sorting hat!

[@PhilBagels]

It seems to me, the sorting hat is not any smarter than Godric Gryffindor himself was. Maybe that's part of the problem. The hat makes "bold" decisions and "bravely" stands by them. I hate to say it, but I think he should have been in Ravenclaw. As a Ravenclaw myself, I certainly don't want him in my house, but he is obviously more clever than Lockhart, who was a Ravenclaw. If you objectively give him numerical scores, you get: Courage: 0 Loyalty: 0 Ambition: 0 Cleverness: maybe not a lot, but noticeably more than 0. And of course, as many of these videos (and Seamus's, and others) have said, it's not just about the characteristics that you have, but the characteristics that you value. But Pettigrew in Gryffindor still doesn't make any sense. He placed no value whatsoever on Courage or Loyalty or even Ambition.

[@JuanMataCFC]

@@Javert89 ur not wrong ... to this day i question why Regulus Black was put in Slytherin.

[@theinterspeciesreviewer7400]

Never trust a hat with the brains of the 4 most powerful wizards to ever live, I could see a different reality where the sorting hat is evil.

[@hm-pu1ui]

Anyone completely forget were the "Voldemort being an awful wedding planner" joke came from, but just goes along with it.

[@auraguardianemerald6667]

The video where they talked about Bill and Fleurs wedding is where the joke originated

[@ava_121]

Aura Guardian Emerald do you know the title of the video?

[@joshuadesautels]

@@auraguardianemerald6667 I thought it was when they talked about why Harry HAD to actually DO the Triwizard Tournament tasks once he was chosen to participate.

[@Jenizz]

@@ava_121 I want to say that it's the video about why Cornelius Fudge is the worst but I'm not sure.. either way, that video is hilarious. :D

[@lahlybird895]

I think its from the video on magic contracts

[@haewonchoi2752]

Ben: Griffindor is entirely made of good characters Hufflepuff: Am I a joke to you?

[@alexschild5389]

Wasn't it Cedric in that terrible book (cursed child I think?) where he's saved and he turns?

[@lastfullast8819]

Dolores Umbridge looked like a pure Hufflepuff for me. Stubborn and incredibly loyal to the Ministry.

[@TV-ly3dp]

@@lastfullast8819 nope DO NOT ASSOCIATE THAT VIAL WOMEN IN THE INCREDIBLE AMAZING HOUSE HUFFLEPUFF💛🦡 I am a Ravenclaw💙🦅 but I love there house on quizzes where it shows percentages I get Ravenclaw but get close to Hufflepuff 💛🦡 and no Gryffindor or Slytherin in this person either

[@lastfullast8819]

@@TV-ly3dp Zacharias Smith’s existence already proves what Hufflepuff is not that amazing. And why not associate, if she really looks like a pure Hufflepuff?

[@thelegend1801]

​@@TV-ly3dp What about Zacharias Smith? He was pushing first years aside to escape from the castle, though he was a member of Dumbledore's Army and had been trained to fight by Harry. That does sort of seem like Pettigrew, doesn't it? (Nothing against Hufflepuff, I like that house)

[@phoenixmason4101]

Pettigrew: Successfully fakes his own death and frames a much more capable wizard for 15 deaths while said wizard is pursuing him Pettigrew: Manages to escape said wizard AGAIN 12 years later (along with 2 other highly skilled adult wizards and 3 less experienced ones) by using the opportunities presented in the situation Ben: I don't think Pettigrew was cunning or resourceful

[@avivastudios2311]

the problem is the things Peter did were out of fear not because he was smart. Does it sound smart to live life as a rat for 12 years. Why couldn't he have just disguised himself with Polyjuice potion and left the country?

[@HisameArtwork]

@@avivastudios2311 free food and housing, no taxes...I think many people would chose that as well. he utterly lacks any ambition for a better life. polyjuice and fleeing is an effort.

[@berserkworkentertainment]

@@avivastudios2311 well, either way it is quick thinking and witt, no matter if it was fear or not, gotta give the man credit, and when you truly think about it, he would have been better off in Slytherin; out of fear or not he also kind of embodied the traits.

[@chumuheha]

@@avivastudios2311 he disguised himself as a rat and hid with the Weasleys so he could listen in for hints about Voldemort's potential return with a Wizard family who have ministry connections

[@alyonaf1054]

@@avivastudios2311 well, we could say that Voldemort was also hiding out of feat while he was weak. The truth is, yes and no. They were hiding out of fear while they were weak but once Voldemort was in power again he wasn't hiding anymore, as well as Peter. I think most people overestimate Peter's sincerity and Voldemort's insightfulness when it comes to him. Who said he went to Voldemort's side out of feat? Peter did. And we all know he is a lying deceitful pos. I don't know why we take his word for granted. He was saying that to provoke pity when he was discovered and to justify his actions of betraying his friends at least somewhat. In fact, when we meet him briefly towards the end of the book, we are able to understand his character slightly better. True, he never evolved like Neville. But he also didn't stay the same. He simply degenerated, kind of evolved backwards, as much as Neville did. They are two polar opposites of a spectrum, you could say. But that's why he did everything he did, just for all the wrong reasons. Neville wanted to become a hero like his parents, so he did. Peter, on the other hand, did all that that way because he felt he could not become a hero like his friends So he chose to become a villain. He chose, and I insist that it wasn't just fear. It was his conscious decisin. He WAS ambitious. Just like both Gryffindors and Slytherins. But he knew that there was no chance he would accomplish anything in life, especially constantly in the shadow of his brilliant Griffindor friends. But going to the dark side was a chance for him to become someone. Just like Snape in his youth, in his twisted mind he saw himself as a "badass" in that role. Secondly, he WAS brave. Just again, wrong place wrong time, wrong reasons, but he was. I am sorry, I could NOT cut my finger to save my life! Let alone, a HAND -- to resurrect Voldemort. Just no. He was mortally afraid of Voldemort (I mean, who wasn't, apart from Dumbledore), but he went and found him. And stayed. He could leave him and go hide as a rat for the rest of his life, please. I mean, this man's fear made him do so many absolutely fearless things, it's actually amazing people don't see it right in front of them.:)) I guess that's why the Hat was confused. He had as much potential inside of him as he lacked :) He wasn't exceptionally smart and academically gifted, he wasn't good natured, hardworking and loyal (ha), he wasn't ambitious enough for Slytherin, although as self-centred as they are, yet he had that glimplse of bravery in him, a potential for reckless actions in times of crisis. Which he demonstrated more than once. I think this is what the Hat considered to be worthy of Gryffindor. Again, the Hat only judges the potential. It does not predict the future. But it was ultimately right. Peter could be brave when he chose to. And he also chose to betray Lily and James, because well, there's some of Slytherin for you. You also have to be brave to absolutely abandon your old life and support circle and go over to the dark side to potentially become an outcast and a wanted man. As for Voldemort saying Peter came out of feat. Well, we know that Voldemort was very shallow and not the best judge of character (Snape, Harry and many more..). While Snape used his power to keep Voldemort oblivious about his motives and loyalties, with Peter Voldemort just didn't see him as that important of a character to thoroughly inspect his mind. He didn't respect him one bit so feeling the fear he came to a conclusion there was nothing else about Peter to find out. And he was wrong, just like with Snape. Human beings are too complex to be defined by 1 trait of character.

[@BartAllen]

*Albus Dumbledore:* "I sometimes think we Sort too soon."

[@christophermueller9764]

Was that from the Sorcerer's stone or from one of the other ones?

[@patchworkfellow]

Christopher Mueller the Deathly Hallows :)

[@friedpasta2983]

Lupin: starts turning into a werewolf Wormtail: Adios

[@kaydenlewis2185]

Wormtail: adios amigos!

[@tomn6800]

Voldemort: Is hit by the Killing Curse and is stripped of his body Wormtail: Adios

[@zeddy2284]

when so= Wormtail: Adios

[@kathrynlatham7630]

anyone else notice, in sorcerers stone ron tells harry “there’s not a witch or wizard that went bad that wasn’t in slytherin”. but at this point in the story it is believed that sirius killed 12 muggles+wormtail, and sirius was gryffindor. and wormtail who actually committed the murders was also in gryffindor

[@desired_effect5251]

good observation, didn't notice that

[@klaudiagrob]

It was Hagrid who says that in the book. But it doesn't matter much.

[@wookieninja8794]

Well what he is saying is that oh I don't know but around 90% or more of slytherin turns out bad. He didn't say that gryffindor, ravenclaw, or hufflepuff don't have bad people just that most of the bad wizards and witches in the world were slytherin. It's about the context of the words being spoken.

[@dothedo3667]

@@wookieninja8794 That's absolutely not what he said.

[@sophiathefurbst]

That’s only in the movie, though, and the movies, being adaptations, aren’t canon. In the books it’s Hagrid, and in Dumbledore’s Big Plan they mentioned that it was likely that Dumbledore told Hagrid to tell him this, because Dumbledore didn’t want Harry in slitherin, you know, hanging out with the children of death eaters.

[@marymiller5191]

Perhaps the hat knew that Slytherin would lead Peter down a dark path and he would at least have a chance to be good in Gryffindor. So the hat made the best choice for Peter.

[@caffemocca8855]

In that case he should've been sorted into Hufflepuff.

[@TV-ly3dp]

@@caffemocca8855 Do not pt him in Hufflepuff💛🦡 that house is lovely without adding charcter that do not deserve to be there

[@slayersingh5064]

@@TV-ly3dp Nothing against Hufflepuff mate, but I don't remember Hufflepuffs being loyal to the person who they previously mistook for the heir of Slytherin when his name came out of the Goblet of Fire. Though I do remember them laughing rather unpleasantly when some plant hit Harry in a Herbology class.

[@joshuadesautels]

Maybe.

[@TV-ly3dp]

@@slayersingh5064 fair enough

[@HGmolotov]

Tbf, whenever someone chooses a house on their own, they tend to go in gryffindor (harry refused Slytherin, Neville wanted Hufflepuff, Hermione is a bit of a stretch, but on the train she mentioned that she wanted gryffindor before saying that ravenclaw would be 'alright'). My theory is, because Peter is a known to tag along doing whatever his friends do, he wanted to be in gryffindor, not because it seemed like the house for him, but it's also where James, Sirius and Lupin* ended up. *This would be the most important point, as lupin was the first person who showed him kindness on the train, becoming his first ever friend.

[@lahlybird895]

Bad move remy. Good thing but bAd move

[@a_fine_edition2746]

I was thinking about this the entire time I was watching the video.

[@ahardcorejedi2968]

Exactly, the sorting hat is usually on point and understands the wearer even better than themselves. It's almost like the mirror of erised and the sorting hat have some sort of connection in terms of understanding someones TRUE desires. For Peter I think he wanted to be with his friends. (Has it ever been stated; the sorting of the marauders? And if so does anyone know the order?)

[@HGmolotov]

@@ahardcorejedi2968 I think it's alphabetical, so... Yeah. He would have gone after Sirius and Remus, but before james

[@ahardcorejedi2968]

@@HGmolotov Truesies.

[@alexanderportis3929]

“How creepy would it be if the guy who murdered your parents was sleeping in the same room as you for 3 years”

[@arielsteinsaltz1956]

A situation very few people can say they’ve ever been in. Oh, Harry.

[@hello_kitty050]

I personally think Ron had it creepier. He sleep in bed with a guy MANY YEARS older than him, and as if that wasn't bad enough, that guy ended up being the guy who killed your best friend's parents.

[@alexanderportis3929]

Michele Mullican and he was yellow

[@vrededromer8955]

On behalf of all Hufflepuffs, Thank you Ben for acknowledging that Pettigrew really could NOT be a Hufflepuff!

[@iamspringtrap223]

I second that

[@TheRiga96]

your hogwarts house doesn't represent your qualities, it represents what you value most. In the case of Pettigrew, as you correctly mentioned, it's probably his total lack of courage that makes it his most desired / valued quality.

[@putraduha3176]

What about hufflepuff? Early books says they are loyal but later song said hufflepuff is just leftovers from other 3 houses. Who desire nothing?

[@viktoriabarta1519]

putra duha they desire to be good I think

[@hussainvirk8598]

putra duha I actually felt ashamed that the hat said we are left overs

[@liammather7870]

putra duha your house does represent your qualities, in CoS its mentioned that the founders ‘hand picked their students based on characteristics that they (the founders) thought were important’ meaning the students have to show those qualities

[@justanotherfangirlontheint4084]

putra duha He never shows he values loyalty or kindness. By that line I think they mean before the sorting hat

[@pengweng3795]

Yes, moldevort And also Seamus likes toy train sets Which is why he will play moldevort

[@niamhiebeanie8661]

#seamusformoldevort

[@declaniii6324]

Niamhie beanie #whythehashtag

[@FirstnameLastname-vf9rp]

Declanmath for the win!

[@pengweng3795]

Scottlee C I, personally, was rooting for Rachelclaw

[@xMRxZEROx]

This sounds exactly like my theory I've posted in several places. My thoughts on Peter are simple. I don't think he was destined to be evil. I think when he was sorted into Gryffindor, I see Peter as nothing much more than another version of Neville. Neville was the same way. He was incredibly timid and shy. Had zero self confidence. But Neville managed to find his bravery in the end. Peter went the other direction. He gave in to his fear and turned to the dark side. It's a sad story really.

[@TheSoulsister94]

I love this theory! Thank you!

[@kaenachoo4783]

That is is true since Harry and his friend all represent someone from the marauders era. Harry of course being James, Ron being Sirius, Hermione being Remus, Neville being wormtail, Ginny being Lily, and Luna being Snape. All of his friends are all similar to the marauders and have some of the same characteristics. Except that Harry and his friends are better versions of what the marauders should have been.

[@xMRxZEROx]

@@kaenachoo4783 That's a good point. Never really considered that.

[@carmensavu5122]

I think there were strong environmental factors at play in Neville's development. Peter didn't have Augusta Longbottom as his grandmother to keep him on the straight and narrow. However harsh she may have been, she was ultimately a kickass witch and instilled values in her grandson from when he was very little. Peter also didn't have parents who had been tortured into insanity by Death Eaters. The fate of Neville's parents was extremely important in the formation of his character. If you remember, he starts really coming into his own and progressing rapidly in both bravery and DADA skills after the mass breakout from Azkaban. Bellatrix Lestrange going free was like a blast of icy water. He needed to get in tip top shape so he could make sure his parents did not suffer in vain, and also, ideally, to avenge them.

[@jdeHaydu]

I think personality wise I would agree with you, but I would argue that Neville could never have ended up like peter. Mainly due to where there lack of self confidence comes from. With Neville, it comes from a place of feeling like your not good enough. While peters appears to come from a place of abandonment/abuse( a lack of nurturing parents at minimum.) This causes him to latch onto anyone who actually pays attention to him. Not an uncommon occurance amongst serial killers. Although I don't think this fear manifest into anger( well resentment first,) until later in his life.

[@Mintilys]

Just like Hermione said "Books! And cleverness! There are more important things - friendship and bravery", I think you've got it right by pointing out how Wormtail *values* bravery, even if he's not able to be brave himself.

[@NomisLime]

Another string in the bow of Neville valuing bravery is his parents and the stories of their bravery that he most likely grew up hearing about.

[@Alex-cw3rz]

6:51 I have to argue although people call him not clever, everything he does in the books shows immense cleverness and intricate planning. For example, While on the run he comes up with an elaborate trap for Sirius, which includes at it's core Peterr easily beating Sirius in a duel (yes Sirius a very talented duelist even after 13 years in Azkaban), which Peter does, he casts muiple spells before Sirius is even prepared, those include, the one that kills all the muggles, a shield charm for himself (all done non verbally), while doing this he is cutting off his finger and then almost simultaneously transforming into a rat/apperating which ever he did. That shows amazing talent.

[@windhelmguard5295]

he faked his own death because he knew he couldn't take sirius in a fight, he exploded the road behind himself, so he could hide inside the smoke cloud, drop his finger, turn into a rat and run. otherwise he could have just killed sirius, who was commonly believed to have been the traitor at the time, allowing him to walk away as a free man.

[@Calvinosaur]

@@windhelmguard5295 It would have been harder to put Sirius in Azkaban for that, and the odds of Lupin and Dumbledore figuring out the truth would have been too high.

[@TheRibottoStudios]

I just want it to make it known that us Hufflepuffs do NOT claim this rat.

[@AmySwain03]

What house does?

[@forestgrump4723]

As a fellow Hufflepuff I wish we could have had him actually. Surrounded by the positivity of our house instead of the glory hog Gryffindors he might have become a better person. He wouldn't have had anyone to hide behind instead people would have just treated him like an equal. I think we could have helped him.

[@magdalesniak9309]

@@forestgrump4723 Exsactly! We would help him get better

[@kyramccone]

Fellow Hufflepuff agrees

[@clareniekamp7634]

As a hufflepuff I agree and want to remind other fellow hufflepuffs that we get spiderman

[@scibanana3542]

The fact that Neville went from seeing himself as just shy of a squib to yelling, "Dumbledore's Army!" in defiance of the Dark Lord himself whilst standing before all of Voldemort's forces shows he was probably the truest Gryffindor of them all.

[@mistertwister2000]

I’ve always thought it’s because the hat doesn’t just take into account what you are, but what you strive to be. I think the reason people like Neville and Peter are put into Gryffindor is because deep down they WANT to be brave. They WANT to be heroic and confident, and so the hat takes this into consideration. When the hat is deciding if Harry is a Gryffindor or a Slytherin, Harry desperately asks the hat not to be put into Slytherin. The hat doesn’t just oblige Harry because it’s nice, the hat is understanding that Harry doesn’t strive to be what Slytherins are. Harry doesn’t want to be known for his cunning or ambition, and Harry straight up telling the hat not to put him in Slytherin solidifies the hat’s choice. I think it worked the same way for Peter. Peter was naturally fearful and small, never one to stand up to bullies or make a name for himself. Peter desperately wanted that security and confidence, and so the hat put him in Gryffindor where he would be surrounded by courageous people. The hat put Peter where he was most likely going to find the confidence he needed, but unfortunately Peter never did and caved to pressure. We can see the hat do the same thing with Neville, it senses the potential for great courage but it’s covered by insecurity and doubt. Neville, unlike Peter, is able to break away from his fear and realize the hat’s vision for him.

[@nurpeachmusic]

I like this theory!

[@crazybalrog4033]

Peter is so underrated- he is powerful! He is an animagus, blew up a street with a wand behind his back, performed a resurrection ritual and more. Seamus Gorman has a good video on this. ;)

[@aerbys]

He is also the reason for lily and James Potter's death. Just cus he is strong doesnt make him underrated. He is strong, not nice.

[@user-ze6wb9bl3f]

@@aerbys true, but as far as villains go, no one gets a bit intimidated by him. he's often overlooked and considered weak. I think they meant "underrated" in that sense. no one on their right mind would like peter lol

[@crazybalrog4033]

@Hermione JeanGranger Weasley yeah sorry I meant his power is underrated.

[@crazybalrog4033]

@K K yes that’s what I meant

[@crazybalrog4033]

Thanks K K

[@TheDjbz]

He was resourceful and cunning enough to (with little/no preparation) escape Sirius when confronted and convince the World he was dead. His *reason* may be cowardice but that doesn’t mean he’s not cunning and resourceful when he needs to be.

[@jocathyn]

I have another point there: Yeah, all of his actions were guided by fear, but let's remember that you can't be courageous without fear. Facing our fears is what makes us brave. "Bravery" without fear is foolishness. Fear is what guide our instict of survival.

[@A.S._Trunks]

Exactly!

[@marianaramirez3828]

Exactly. Its the bravery of doing the things you dont want to, cause u have to.

[@nurpeachmusic]

But he didn't face his fears. He ran away from them, which is what drove his actions.

[@moikelgris]

Yeah but like the point is fear didn't make HIM courageous lol

[@Pktommy1]

It’s simple, he was different when he was sorted. He changed later during the war. Dumbledore even says he thinks they sort students too early. It’s not a generic house, Peter was just a different person at the time. It’s obvious.

[@foxesaregods]

Sorting Hat couldn’t decide so it just asked Siri to flip a coin

[@Juho.S.]

Probably xD

[@nurpeachmusic]

I wander what Siri would say if you asked it what Hogwarts house it was in!

[@bilboswaggings]

Cut to Headmaster yelling: "DID YOU SORT YOURSELF INTO THE GRYFFINDOR HOUSE?!!!!?

[@Claire18Hi]

your comment had me actually laughing out loud. nice!

[@yaboi7773]

Calmly

[@kaenachoo4783]

YOU ASK THE SORTING HAT TO DO IT FOR YA!!!!?!?

[@lahlybird895]

Noooo

[@clareniekamp7634]

LOL I actually did Laugh Out Loud xD

[@thomasjones6216]

Hat: ok - I messed up with my first experiment - but you, Neville, will be my redemption! Neville: but- Hat: No! Gryffindor! 7 years later Sorting hat: phew... I'm glad I didn't get it wrong again

[@EnchantingWings1]

I would likely be a hat stall - every time I take the quiz, I get a different result XD

[@sannehol6942]

Did you take the pottermore quiz? That's the real test.

[@caffemocca8855]

@@sannehol6942 My results are always either Slytherin and Ravenclaw.

[@heatherduke5410]

I either get Hufflepuff or Ravenclaw. I've taken the Pottermore quiz twice and once I got Hufflepuff, another Ravenclaw. Same with other Harry Potter quizzes.

[@EnchantingWings1]

@@sannehol6942 yes, the Pottermore/Wizarding World one. The thing is, I have values and personality traits that cross over between four houses. I'm hugely ambitious, I am loyal to those who see me for who I am, I love learning and always expand my knowledge into areas I've never thought I'd be interested in and I try to be brave in everything I do. I'm a jack of all houses. One that most speaks to me is Ravenclaw because of its values connect with me the most.

[@purplebean8989]

I done the pottermore quiz 10 times and got hufflepuff every single time; so I gave in and went with hufflepuff 😂

[@carmenbirch8106]

Sorting Hat"I've never made a mistake". Snape "I'mma bout to end this hats career"

[@sleepdoesnotexist.14]

Carmen Birch Snape is definitely a Slytherin

[@carmenbirch8106]

@@sleepdoesnotexist.14 I think you're probably right. While anyone can become brave, when he was sorted, he displayed more Slytherin characteristics than anything else

[@sleepdoesnotexist.14]

Carmen Birch yes but I also don’t really like Snape....he might have shown courage and bravery but I don’t like him and think he’s much too selfish to be in Gryffindor....not to say that all Slytherin are selfish

[@luqmanhbs3885]

Isn't cunningness a trait of Slytherin? Dude was a triple agent (display of cunningness) for the sake of love / revenge , rather courage itself.

[@nurpeachmusic]

Snape was very much a Slytherin. In that Occlumency lesson where he refers to "fools that wear their heart on their sleeves," it's quite obvious that he's referring to very Gryffindor traits and expressing his disdain for them. Snape wasn't like that- he was great at Occlumency and knew how to conceal their feelings, something which Harry, a true Gryffindor (yes, I said it, he does NOT fit in Slytherin AT ALL), couldn't get the hang of because, in true Gryffindor fashion, he was very open.

[@dootdoodle569]

Nobody: Ben: *_Peter pettigrew a M I r I g h t_*

[@pinkajou656]

DootDoodle I Mean SIRIUSLY

[@blakedavis2447]

That hat was like “I’ll put this loser in gryfondor and maybe he’ll Learn to be brave , them kids in slytherin have enough baggage”

[@jb888888888]

"There are all kinds of courage," said Dumbledore, smiling. "It takes a great deal of bravery to stand up to our enemies, but just as much to stand up to our friends."

[@lisadelaney5287]

They killed James Lily Sirius Lupin Tonks Snape Dobby Dumbledore Cedric And not umbridge

[@ava_121]

At least she’s dead in our hearts

[@friedpasta2983]

Oof size large

[@rawanthebookworm1536]

She was put in Azkaban though and I think she got the dementors kiss which would have been worse than dying

[@clareniekamp7634]

ARRRGGGH I know. Cmon did ya HAVE to let her live from the centaurs

[@JuanMataCFC]

@@rawanthebookworm1536 nah, the Dementors were removed from Azkaban in one of Kingsley Shacklebolt's first acts as Minister for Magic. kinda unfortunate tho, coz i ship Umbridge & Dementor.

[@MadHymek323]

The last time I was this early, You-Know-Who wasn't back I mean according to Fudge at least

[@raeskoczen3193]

So not that long ago then

[@Kyamusuku]

Lol nice!

[@ka_z5282]

So the order of the Phoenix then...

[@medievalist]

Me: "What about McClaggen?" Ben: "...and McClaggen."

[@mellchiril]

*Resourcefulness:* He blows up half a street, kills 12 Muggles, cuts off his own finger, blames the Potter's death on Sirius, then transforms into a rat to escape *Cunning:* He picks a wizarding family to live with for 12 years, disguised as a rat, just so that he can escape the attention of both Ministry and Death Eaters alike, and to be able to listen to the wizarding news to hear if Voldemort has possibly returned to power. *Ambition:* He surrounds himself with people who are stronger than him, but he also cuts off... his whole hand... in order to resurrect his master... ambitious indeed. *Determination:* He lived 12 years as a rat just to ensure that he stays alive. Rather determined, I'd say. Okay, maybe not all great examples, but there's definitely something to be said for it. Then again, as long as he's not a Ravenclaw I'm fine with it either way... we've already got Lockhart, Trelawney, and Moaning Myrtle... we're set on dodgy characters.

[@erindavies211]

Wait.....Sybll Trelawney is a Ravenclaw???? Wow! I did not know that.

[@mellchiril]

@@erindavies211 lol you made me fact check for a moment :') But yes, she is ^^ She's so perfectly odd, where else would she be, right?

[@laylathewolf]

Yeah I’d say with all the awkward characters we have in ravenclaw we’re pretty set on unnerving people so yeah, it’s griffendors turn

[@nurpeachmusic]

The only dodgy one of those is Lockhart.

[@Reykh24]

All of that originates from his fear.

[@liiindseyyy]

I was a hat stall!!! The sorting quiz actually let me pick at the end between Ravenclaw and Hufflepuff!

[@thedragonwarrior5861]

Which did ya choose?

[@liiindseyyy]

Ankylord The Shapeshifter Ravenclaw :)

[@liiindseyyy]

I love Hufflepuff too, though! It was a hard decision

[@Cheesehead_Caleb]

My theory is that Pettigrew asked the hat to put him in gryffindor cus that's where Sirius, James, and Lupin were. And the hat was like "ok sure"

[@lunayen]

But he didn't know them before entering Hogwarts?

[@JohnDirtySpleen]

lunayen the train?

[@kaenachoo4783]

Wubalubadubdub 1 as far as I’m concerned Sirius and James met Wormtail after the sorting. Remus however met Wormtail on the hogwarts express.

[@Cheesehead_Caleb]

He probably met Lupin on the train since we know Sirius and James were with Snape and Lily

[@PhilBagels]

The hat isn't all that smart. I don't think it can be any smarter than Godric Gryffindor himself was. And that may be part of the problem. Gryffindor, being a Gryffindor, perhaps naively assumes people have more bravery than they actually do.

[@CzechMirco]

Pettigrew was able to bring Bertha Jorkins to Voldemort, and even Voldemort admits that it was surprisingly resourceful and cunning. And the whole way in which he framed Sirius was very cunning too.

[@godshinin300]

There's also something else, Ben. As Dumbledore stated in Harry's first year "It takes a great deal of bravery to stand up to your enemies, but a great deal more to stand up to your friends." Peter was using James, Sirius and Remus as some sort of shield, but when Voldemort started his reign of terror he realized they weren't enough to protect him anymore. That's why he changed sides. Let's put it this way, your friend did something very bad and you're the only one who knows; what's easier, keeping the secret or reporting the fact? Betrayal is not the hardest thing to think about, but it's surely the hardest thing to do. It must have taken Peter a lot of guts to go to Voldemort instead of just dropping everything and everyone and running away, like a real coward would do.

[@iluvsundrysydney]

Peter: is Gryffindor Literally everyone: hE sHoUld Be In SlYtHeRiN Carlin Bros: *No.*

[@despicablepenguin]

Carlin Bros: we don't want him.

[@ajjohnson8598]

We do not want him.

[@PhilBagels]

I think he should have been in Ravenclaw. As a Ravenclaw myself, I certainly don't want him in my house, but he is obviously more clever than Lockhart, who was a Ravenclaw. If you objectively give him numerical scores, you get: Courage: 0 Loyalty: 0 Ambition: 0 Cleverness: maybe not a lot, but noticeably more than 0.

[@Ilikecatsandmelody]

Gryffindors don't want him either (▼へ▼メ)

[@jdeHaydu]

@@PhilBagels idk, I would argue fooling most, if not all of the magical community, who are very well aware of obliviate takes a level of cleverness not often seen

[@Kat-eo8by]

I thought it was obvious... Pettigrew values bravery. Same way Lockhart got in Ravenclaw because he values intelligence. Edit: or he had potential for great bravery (like Neville)

[@elizabethdonner5240]

That is what I thought

[@inkan.9302]

👏🏻EXACTLY👏🏻THIS👏🏻 Also same reason Hermione got sorted into gryffindor, because like she even said herself in book 1: ”books and clevernes! There are more important things. Friendship and bravery.” She values bravery more and that’s why she’s a gryffindor. Also the potential like you said, in his final moments Wormtail did show bravery by defyin Lord Voldemort, whom he feared the most and that’s what got him killed.

[@PhilBagels]

I don't see any evidence that he values bravery at all.

[@Kat-eo8by]

PhilBagels, My reasoning is that he has such a lack of bravery he values it. Sounds worse when it’s outside of my head lol. Or he just really values the bravery from other people and leeches off of that.

[@inkan.9302]

PhilBagels Well he was definitely drawn to Sirius, James and Remus who are all brave, and that’s why he became their friend. Remus may have been a bit calmer but he has never been a coward, and James and Sirius were just downright bold to the point where it was getting a little dangerous. In the third book where McGonagall, Hagrid and Fudge are at the three broomsticks, Minerva says that Pettigrew used to ”hero-worship Black and Potter”

[@Rusti024]

To be honest I was sad that scabbers was Peter Pettigrew

[@shilparath3074]

Wow!! What a great theory!! In a twisted way, this kind of makes Peter "The Rat"' Pettigrew's story so sad... he wanted so badly to have the courage of the good people in his life, but at the end of the day his fear always won out and drove him to evil.

[@cindysmith6056]

Ben: Heeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeey brootherrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr.......rrrrrrrrrrrr J: Hey Brother

[@mistyb1183]

J does it better Nice and short

[@mr.boomguy]

I just like this vibe, where they're telling each other theories, and we're just listening in

[@clareniekamp7634]

more like J: hy brthr

[@JDaubney123]

That one dislike is from Peter Petigrew Also question for Ben, WhAt Ya FeLl OvEr FoR?

[@berengustav7714]

Now 13 more of the Death Eaters 👎ed

[@selinwang6171]

Now 77 more pettigrew stans

[@NadiaVeleva1011]

To me it's always been pretty clear: Peter got sorted into Gryffindor, cause he was too scared to join Slytherin. Basically his hat stall was him doing a Harry "Not Slytherin, NOT Slytherin.." and The Sorting Hat was like "dude, seriously..?!....[much much later] Ughh, FINE!"

[@petrusdeandrade1108]

I heard from a movie long time ago that courage isn't the absence of fear.

[@combinedcontent9226]

This happens to be the motto of Aperture Science

[@tristianwoo8769]

Oh my gosh, at noon I was wondering what Ben would be talking about and I was like “hmmmm a wormtail video would be dope.” And where we are now. I’m HYPED!!!!!!! YESSSSS!

[@tomn6800]

I thought, "It'll be another J vs Ben."

[@raydar2877]

harry: please not Slytherin, please not Slytherin sorting hat: not Slytherin eh? malfoy: OFFENCE

[@MarkFilipAnthony]

Everyone hating on wormtale, However: most of us would have had problems with the same decitions he had to choose between Its not easy to be just and brave

[@juniperdenner8338]

I feel like Peter should have been in Hufflepuff. First of all, it´s canon that Hufflepuff will take any student, without them having to show any specific talents or characteristics. Being a Hufflepuff myself I always valued and took pride in that fact. Sure, he wasn´t loyal to his friends when faced with Voldemort, but that was more than ten years after being sorted. But imagine how much, how differently Hufflepuff and his house mates could´ve shaped him. I´m sure he could´ve been getting the love and support to act better.

[@naomi_falk]

Who is worse: Umbridge or Voldemort? I say Moldevort.

[@ava_121]

Moldevort for sure

[@garison2838]

#MakeSeamusMoldevort

[@jackfoster9497]

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[@bdragon1229]

Srry but umbridge

[@mayj0lly]

Umbridge, Voldemort was evil with a cause. Umbridge was just bored

[@VCannDreams]

i feel like the hat should’ve just said “no”

[@clareniekamp7634]

LOL like "Better be..... NAh youre a muggle bye"

[@salt1069]

"ur a rat, peter"

[@jamesmoens1455]

Imagine looool

[@liltwitchtip]

Thing is though, i feel like as a kid, he DID embody loyalty and bravery. In fact, escorting a werewolf around when you are barely the size of a fist has to take an absolutely immense amount of courage, I mean, yeah, being an animagus will prevent you from catching lycanthropy, but it wont keep you from being crushed to death in werewolf's jaws. That's why the other two took larger animals, to be able to keep Lupin in check during their outings. Remember the reason Wormtail was so small? So he could go first into the tree to deactivate it. Alone. The same tree that has been shown to easily be able to hit the ground, so, its not like his small size would keep him from being hit by it, it would still reach him. And no matter how much trouble they'd gotten into, he never let slip about any of it, nor about being an animagus. Loyal and Brave. I think maybe, it was witnessing the horrors voldemort had, and was willing to commit might have had some sway there. Bravery has its limits though... For lack of a better term, its one thing to stand up for, and with your friends, and entirely another to die for them. Plz like... im curious about his response to this angle.

[@lilamurilega9583]

He had to because his friends made him and he’s spineless

[@satishthokal6360]

Here is a fan theory : If somebody disobeys magical binding contract of the goblet of fire, then the person will lose his soul. I think so because Dumbledore did let Harry compete regardless of the dangers involved in the tournament especially for someone who is not skilled enough because of the magical contract. But it was Crouch who put Harry's name in the goblet of fire and he DIDN'T compete in the tournament, and as a result he loses his soul at the end of the year.

[@devzy793]

Did Harry ever recieve an Order Of Merlin? I feel like he deserves it. Can't put my finger on why though...

[@YellowBear-kx1ff]

Devzy 793 Well, he defeated Lord Voldemort, the most powerful Dark Wizard of all time.

[@jackbadley4890]

@@YellowBear-kx1ff r/whoooooosh

[@totallycrazystudios1801]

@@YellowBear-kx1ff No... That's not it.... 🤔🤔🤔

[@ashgood7368]

Hmmmmm could it be that he blew up his aunt? That’s totally the only thing I can think of why

[@hello_kitty050]

@@totallycrazystudios1801wait! I know! He should get it because he survived the dursleys. For many years! Just kidding, he needs to get it because of killing voldy. " voldy's gone moldy, so now let's have fun!" Raise your hand if you remember that.

[@jessicamcconnell21]

When Ben was talking about Voldy being zero percent wedding planner and said," Am I right" I said "right" and raised my hand up to high five the PC screen LOL. Caught my self half way. COVID has me in need of some good old fashion Hangout time with some friends. On a side , note just went to give a thumbs and it was a triple 7, might just head to the circle k and get a lotto ticket!

[@Vampyresdontdodishes]

Jess McConnell I tried to use my car key fob to unlock my front door so girl I got you. Self isolation is melting our brains.

[@jessicamcconnell21]

@@Vampyresdontdodishes LOL Right

[@AkumakoCross]

The mention of Wormtail’s weaknesses (lack of courage, loyalty, etc.) possibly being a large factor in his sorting made me think... what if in instances of students having qualities of multiple houses - or in Pettigrew’s case, no house - the hat switches from examining what qualities they have to analyzing what they lack so they can grow more? Like you said, Neville is a great example. The hat sees what you could be, as well as what you are.

[@BarneyBing883]

Brilliant juxtaposition between Peter and Neville! "One learns courage from his friends, the other leans on his friends to be courageous on his behalf"

[@siriusaegislink2700]

I've always been confused by this, makes a lot of sense the way you put it. Also Peter transforms into a human, with clothes, but then into a rat and drops the clothes. This means that he is an infinite clothing generator.

[@carmensavu5122]

Yes, an infinite UGLY clothing generator. :)))))

[@salt1069]

I mean you can hardly expect a movie to show a potbellied rat man nude

[@erindavies211]

@@salt1069 You make a good point.

[@d.whillmar1740]

Blumenkranz tune intensifies

[@glittery_cucumber]

"Heeeeeeeey brotheeeeeer..." *LIKE*

[@teawanee]

I think the sorting hat not only thinks about what house you best fit, but also takes into consideration which house would best help you grow as a person.

[@InWitheNew]

You gotta stretch so hard to argue that Pettigrew isn't resourceful, cunning or determined. The man faked his own death by cutting off his finger and hiding for twelve years as a rat. He got away with it. That's ultra cunning, shows next level determination and also shows resourcefulness.

[@davidmccarthy4206]

That shirt goes insanely well with his eyes

[@maryann4451]

This was discussed during the live chat on one of the Friday’s! Cool to see it becoming a video

[@thomasb2583]

I was the 1 who asked the question super stoked

[@noorykorky5056]

"... Gryffindor House, which in case you have forgotten, is exclusively made up of good characters and people who are immensely brave... and, you know, Cormac MacLaggen" -- Ben Carlin

[@redliquorice]

I think the hat ended up going with Gryffindor over Slytherin because it was Pettigrew's best chance at becoming someone like Neville. Obviously it didn't work out that way but presumably if he'd been sorted into Slytherin he'd have been hanging around with future Death Eaters from the beginning (which would have worked out much better for James and Lily...)

[@chedged8511]

Imma start a petition for Moldevort to be the Slytherin house mascot

[@kyleesh217]

where do I sign?

[@noahkales7925]

"we don't want him in OUR house" says the Ravenclaw.

[@fragmentedghost5391]

hes a slytherin

[@continuousself-improvement1879]

Neville had both his parents went insane forever and stuck with his kooky grandma with the bird-for-a-hat, yet he turned out pretty okay, though somewhat awkward. That, for me, is courage.

[@nala122]

Hi! I love your videos and you explain things sooo clearly! Thank you for your videos!

[@KevinAccetta]

We're judging him from how he is in present time, maybe he was very different when he was younger and sorted into Gryffindor? Is there any backstory to how he was back in school?

[@TheKabuto90]

Not explicitly but he seems to have been pretty similar to how he is now from what little we do see of him in flashbacks and such.

[@auraguardianemerald6667]

He's not different. He was described when younger as a follower, going with James and Sirius to do whatever they wanted to do.

[@Supermario19001]

@@samriddle1445 facts. At least neville grow a backbone

[@KevinAccetta]

@@samriddle1445 but was he like a bully? Like how Malfoy's two dudes are dumb and cowardly but still bullies? Cuz something must've happened for him to go from following James and Sirius (two good, not evil, people) to turning bad.

[@salt1069]

@@KevinAccetta no he was always cowardly and decided to betray them because he *feared* for his own life. He saw the dark side as safer for him and took the chance to get into voldys good books

[@madoodien]

Peter: you're just like your father Touches Harry Sirius: DON'T TOUCH HIM IDIOT WORMTAIL

[@lunalovegood8352]

I say he is in hufflepuff because

[@eloise6640]

Luna Lovegood I think killing people is furthest away from hufflepuff

[@joemcauliffe6063]

Peter: I am loyal to james but I told Voldemort where they live Serious: umm

[@apotheosis6505]

*sirius

[@Yajinalyse]

Pettigrew, love him or hate him, is one of the most powerful and ressourceful characters in the Harry Potter universe. I'm sorry, but his INCREDIBLE feats speak for themselves : -He became an Animagus at a ridiculous age, even though he had lots of help, it's still impressive. -He managed to remain an undetected spy for Voldemort for a year (So he must be a very efficient Occlumens) -He deducted what had happened at the Potter's -His trick to frame Sirius was pretty ingenious -He was able to kill 12 people with one curse, something that Fudge never saw in it's entire life (and the reason why he is afraid of Sirius, thinking it was him who casted that spell) -It was pretty smart to infiltrate a wizard family as a rat to keep on the lookout for news of Voldemort and keep an eye on Harry, faking his death as a rat was also extremely devious, as was his escape at the end (although he was lucky, too) -He was the only person besides Quirrell who found Voldemort after he disappeared -He tricked Bertha Jorkins into accompanying him on a walk and overpowered her -He overpowered Moody, a skilled Auror, with Crouch -He managed to perform the killing curse with someone else's wand and he resurrected Voldemort -Not to mention the fact that he has the nerve to cut off his own limbs if need be. I mean, I know I could never muster the guts to cut a single finger of mine, so my entire hand... ? TLDR, Peter Pettigrew is BRAINDEAD BROKEN as a wizard.

[@InfernalBanana]

When you think about it, Voldemort is Peter’s right hand man. Y’know, ‘cuz he used his right hand to- I’ll see myself out...

[@DeeSnow97]

"hatstalls only happen every fifty years or so" *(X) Doubt*

[@FernandoCastro-hw4bo]

You think that they happen more frequently or rarely?

[@savanna33420]

I love your videos 😀😀. You guys always put me in a good mood

[@pangolinblanket3835]

6:49 Hey Ben, please know there are MORE defining traits to a Hufflepuff than just "loyalty", especially traits that Peter did not match and thus would never be put in Hufflepuff

[@joeschmo9348]

j.k rowling: we finally finished the series j and ben: hold my ipad

[@emmasalee2773]

"The winner this week will be receiving a very special new piece of SCB merch that we'll be announcing tomorrow night" Wonder what the new merch will be. I mean, it seems *pretty obvious*

[@SarahMacDonald1991]

Socks

[@zock_zock9147]

*pretty obvious* *fame* *isn’t* *everything.*

[@SM-hl6hh]

Why he was a hat stall with slytherin: **I do agree he should have been in gryffindor, because he's the mirror to what neville could have been, but technically its cannon that self preservation is a slytherin thing, so he does have one clear slytherin triat which is probably why the sorting hat was deciding between Gryf and Slyth, because the only thing other than bravery Peter values is self preservation, which from watching the video you have enough evidence of this. k love you, bye**