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Why we Baptize by Pouring/Sprinkling not Immersion/Dunking

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Heritage Reformed Presbyterian Church

Heritage Reformed Presbyterian Church

Күн бұрын

Why Do We Baptize by Sprinkling/Pouring and not Immersion/Dunking?
1. Ex. 24:8 Moses sprinkles people with blood of covenant.
a. Mt. 26:28; Mk. 14:24; Lk. 22:20, Christ says He “pours out” His blood of the New Covenant.
b. Heb. 9:19-20; 10:29 connect Moses to Christ, do not reject the blood of the new covenant by which you were sanctified, and thereby outrage the Spirit of grace.
2. Ezek. 36:25-26 “I will sprinkle clean water on you.” Also says new hear and spirit is given, removes heart of stone. Compare this to the new covenant as promised in Jeremiah 31:31ff.
3. Baptism does not mean “immersion”. It has a range of meaning of various washings/cleansings (you can bathe by taking a shower or a bath, sponge bath, etc.).
a. Acts 8:38-39, Philip and the Ethiopian Eunuch go down into the water, but only after this is the Ethiopian said to be baptized by Philip. They both then come up out of the water.
b. If going in and coming out meant immersion, then not only was the Ethiopian immersed, so was Philip, the one doing the baptism! This is an absurd idea.
c. Mk. 1:8-10, Jesus is baptized by John, going into and coming out of the water. Again, as seen from Acts 8 above, this does not mean He was immersed. It means he walked into the Jordan river. The Ethiopian’s baptism likely didn’t even have enough water to immerse his whole body.
4. After Christ’s baptism, as He comes back to dry ground, the Spirit “descends” upon Him.
a. John the Baptist says he baptizes with water, but Christ will baptize with the Holy Spirit. We see Christ is now baptized/full of the Holy Spirit, and will soon, after He ascends on High, baptize His people with the Holy Spirit, by pouring out His Spirit upon them.
b. Acts 1-2, Apostles must wait for the Spirit to be “poured out” from Christ on high.
c. Acts 1:5, Jesus says, “they will be baptized with H.S. soon.
d. Acts 2:3, Holy Spirit comes upon/sits disciples/apostles like tongues of fire.
e. Acts 8:14-16, H.S. had not yet “fallen” upon the Samaritans.
f. Acts 10:44, Peter is preaching and the H.S. “falls upon” the Gentiles. The Jews are astonished that the gift of the Holy Spirit is “poured out” also on the Gentiles.
5. Peter then says in Acts 10:47-48, “Can anyone withhold water for baptizing these people, who have received the Holy Spirit just as we have?” And he commanded them to be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ.
a. We see baptism in the new covenant/for us today is deeply connected to the blood of Christ and its sprinkling/pouring out. And because Christ’s blood cleanses/covers His people, it is a baptism that can also symbolize the Holy Spirit’s outpouring/being received by God’s people.
b. Christ’s blood cleanses us, and makes us fit to receive the indwelling of the Holy Spirit.
c. So baptism symbolizes Christ’s blood and Spirit. So how does His blood and Spirit come upon us? Plainly, Scripture shows it is by pouring or sprinkling, not immersing or dunking!
d. This shows the Lord is sovereign in covenanting and redeeming His people. He is the one who covers us with Christ’s blood, and pours out His Spirit upon His people.
e. But in immersion, the water, which is meant to symbolize the blood and Spirit of Christ, is passive, and the person is active. While this might be said to symbolize burial with Christ and rising to new life akin to Romans 6, this is not the focus of the Scriptures on baptism’s meaning.
f. But since God is the initiator and the one who promises Christ’s blood and indwelling Spirit to His covenant people, we can see God’s sovereign grace, and that He can make this covenant and its promises of Christ’s blood and Spirit to whomever He wishes.
g. Since God has always covenanted with believers and their children (Gen. 17:7; Acts 2:38-39), then babies of believers also ought to be baptized, and as the child grows in age, they should be taught that their baptism shows God has covenanted with them and promised them the blood of His Son and the Spirit of His Son, to be received savingly by faith and repentance.

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@oldmanonamission8055
@oldmanonamission8055 Ай бұрын
I'm getting baptised on the 11th Sept. Even within the Church the Decon said I need to be submerged and the Vicar said water to be poured over my head. I said "I don't care if someone throws a bucket of water over me, just get your acts together or I will ask someone in the church to baptise me with one witness and you won't be invited" face-blue-smiling They asked 3 questions "how did you come to find Christ" I replied "I didn't know he was lost" "what does he mean to you?" I answered "he died for my sins" and How will you serve him?" I replied "you will have to ask him that. Maybe I could serve him by sorting you two out first as you argue like cat and dog"
@michaelmock8484
@michaelmock8484 Жыл бұрын
Well done.
@DannyLoyd
@DannyLoyd 5 ай бұрын
Then you are not baptized. Col 2:12 says, " You are BURIED with him in baptism and RAISED up with him through faith.." When sprinkled, you are neither buried or raised and the verse you give above have nothing to do with baptism. You might want to actually read verses that talk about baptism, not the Lord Supper.....Read also Romans 6
@bigtobacco1098
@bigtobacco1098 26 күн бұрын
Ummm... they entombed people back then
@jkatebreemw3601
@jkatebreemw3601 9 ай бұрын
Thank you so much. We recently joined a reformed church. Leaving the baptist denomination about 2yrs ago. Our son is asking to be baptised. Our pastor explained why they sprinkle, but i wanted a more detailed help to better explain to family who hold to baptist tradition.
@ChurchOfKentucky
@ChurchOfKentucky 5 күн бұрын
The Lord buried sin in water in the days of Noah. The attacking Egyptians were drowned in water.
@Fehrfamilyhomestead
@Fehrfamilyhomestead 2 ай бұрын
I believe that you made a good point on that pouring or sprinkling is a legitimate baptism, but I disagree with you on baptizing babies and children. I believe that baptism is for people that understand the gospel, believe and have put their faith and trust in Jesus Christ.
@IsaiahPatrick0115
@IsaiahPatrick0115 Ай бұрын
What denomination sprinkles and pours in baptism & yet does not administer baptism to infants?
@Fehrfamilyhomestead
@Fehrfamilyhomestead Ай бұрын
Most Mennonites
@IsaiahPatrick0115
@IsaiahPatrick0115 Ай бұрын
@@Fehrfamilyhomestead that is so interesting! Was that Menno Simons view (that immersion was not the only valid mode)?
@user-gg9mj1vk9c
@user-gg9mj1vk9c 5 ай бұрын
Thank you very mutch, i was baptised when i was 17 with the sprinkeling baptism and it was a very special day for me,and now i am joining christain group on wendnesdays but they asked if i was baptized and i said well yeah i was in this way baptized and when i said that ,it was asif they are trying to attack me and then told me that the baptism that i got didnt really count and that i am not really saved.😂 So i cried the whole night with confusion and now after watching this video I am more at ease.Now I know what to do in the future and to what texts in the bybel I must refer to and tell them about sothat they can understand why I was baptized in that way.
@Fehrfamilyhomestead
@Fehrfamilyhomestead 2 ай бұрын
If you believe that Jesus Christ died for your sins, was buried and resurrected on the 3rd day then you are saved, baptism is a symbol of being saved.
@user-gg9mj1vk9c
@user-gg9mj1vk9c 2 ай бұрын
​@@Fehrfamilyhomestead I know it just that I left my old church becauese things changed and then when I joined the new church they say me being baptized in that certain way doesn't count and me declaring to the church that I believe doesn't count either , so it felt like a fight and it also feels like it's interfering with my relationship with God. Becauese the one time the priest came in and she said everything that is wrong with our lives like personal things of our insecurities and stuff and then everyone cried and then she left witch didn't make sense... And the other time the priest was saying something specifically to me then I started to cry and the whole church laughed at me even the priest so then I went outside to clear my head then they forced me to go back in ... My mental health went down tho so now I take a break becauese I realized there are different types of churches that believe in different ways ,so now I'm rebuilding my relationship with God and later on will find a community that fits right that is caring and loving and don't make me feel bad about myself
@Fehrfamilyhomestead
@Fehrfamilyhomestead 2 ай бұрын
I'm sorry to hear that you got treated that way. That sounds like a church that needs to be avoided.
@uttam-ps6bm
@uttam-ps6bm 2 ай бұрын
​@@FehrfamilyhomesteadAre you a Baptist ?
@oldmanonamission8055
@oldmanonamission8055 Ай бұрын
Listen, I'm getting baptised on the 11th Sept. Even within the Church the Decon said I need to be submerged and the Vicar said water to be poured over my head. I said "I don't care if someone throws a bucket of water over me, just get your acts together or I will ask someone in the church to baptise me with one witness and you won't be invited" They asked 3 questions "how did you come to find Christ" I replied "I didn't know he was lost" "what does he mean to you?" I answered "he died for my sins" and How will you serve him?" I replied "you will have to ask him that. Maybe I could serve him by sorting you two out first as you argue like cat and dog"
@mysticmouse7261
@mysticmouse7261 7 ай бұрын
If you think it's just symbolic what diifference filled it make on the exact method?
@mosesoluka1981
@mosesoluka1981 3 ай бұрын
Baptism is English and may be it means what you are explaining. The Greek word that is translated to English is “Baptizo” meaning Immersion. Jesus was immersed in water, and the disciples immersed believers in water. Following, the apostolic example baptism should be immersion. I was told that when I was a baby, water was sprinkled on me as baptism however when I became of age, after receiving and believing Christ Jesus, I consented to be baptised and was immersed fully understanding what I was doing and following the apostles example as in the holy scriptures.
@uttam-ps6bm
@uttam-ps6bm 2 ай бұрын
@mose... Who told you that "baptizo" means "immersion?" Are you sure. Baptism is not a new invention by John the Baptist. Jesus was not immersed neither do the Ethiopian eunuch. They were either poured or sprinkled. "bapto" means "dip" and is found only 3 times in the NT, and mind you, they are not related with Baptism at all. Baptism means "sprinkling" (or sometimes "pouring"). If you don't know how people got Baptism, please do research in the OT. Don't draw your Baptism pattern outside the Bible, or from "Hinduism bathing rites." Baptism never means immersion. Moreover Baptism never saves people from sin, but a man is saved by faith in Jesus Christ.
@bigtobacco1098
@bigtobacco1098 26 күн бұрын
Prove Jesus was immersed
@bigtobacco1098
@bigtobacco1098 26 күн бұрын
No rebaptisms in scripture
@newmesangdei5079
@newmesangdei5079 4 ай бұрын
What you have said is wrong.
@uttam-ps6bm
@uttam-ps6bm 2 ай бұрын
I think you are either Baptist or Pentecostal. Immersionists are very pitiful. Their practice of Baptism is drawn from Hinduism, i.e. since 18th century only.
@docsawbones3249
@docsawbones3249 3 ай бұрын
very confused and twisted thinking
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